I hope they boo just a little.

I am voting Democrat.

McCain 08, because the other choices will screw you even more

sss

Buh-bye, Mittens!

could i really vote for shrillary or Obama? Looks more like it than ever...

And the people rose up and smote Leopold Doppler with... gravy boats!

Stony silence would be perfect. Just imagine...

80% certain I sit this one out, unless McCain makes serious and strong assurances to the GOP core. Otherwise my rallying cry will be "Vote for the undercard and Zombie Reagan!"

Does anyone have a three sided coin I can use to vote with?

krager -- agreed in principle. But either of them will screw things over so badly, I'm wanting a Dem to be responsible for the wreckage and inspire a backlash in 2 or maybe 4 years.

**Takes deep breath**

NOOO!

**whimpers**

Yes! Espouse your conservative credentials by doing all you can to make sure a liberal democrat gets in office! That's sound thinking.

re: #1 coquimbojoe

I hope they boo just a little.

I hope they boo a LOT! And I hope the boos get replayed over and over throughout the campaign.

It will earn McCain credentials with the Great American Center -- the boos from hardcore conservatives will push him over the top to victory.

Boo, my pretties, boo!

re: #6 soccerdad

I fail to understand the logic of that.

re: #2 mike_trivisonno

I am voting Democrat.

Good plan!

/s

re: #12 soccerdad

krager -- agreed in principle. But either of them will screw things over so badly, I'm wanting a Dem to be responsible for the wreckage and inspire a backlash in 2 or maybe 4 years.

Oh, I agree. I'm still undecided on whether to back McCain, I probably wont make up my mind for months

re: #6 soccerdad

could i really vote for shrillary or Obama? Looks more like it than ever...

Sheer genius!

Afterwards, move the barrel a few inches over, then you can shoot yourself in the other foot too.

i don't like being forced to settle for him.

OT

HEy Zombie,
Did you get the info I sent you on the Marine Mom get together in Berkeley?

re: #9 Taro

80% certain I sit this one out, unless McCain makes serious and strong assurances to the GOP core.

You just aren't sulking hard enough. C'mon, go all the way - - pull the level for Hillary. Why take half measures?

Here's McCain's chance to score some points with the "conservative base". And to those who think that it would be better to have Hellary or Obama (than McCain) in the White House, I can only say that you are sadly misguided.

BHG

Have fun all you kamikaze Republicans and stay home, vote for Hillary/Obama or write in a loser.

I'll vote for McCain.

Vote for me and I'll set ya free

Considering the numbers there that consider him a conservative, they haven't been hostile enough, long enough.

spit

Thompson, gone.
Guilliani, gone.
Romney, gone.

I don't propose we start a third party. That's never worked. I would like a legitimate 2nd party though.

F,me! I'm not happy.

re: #21 saberry0530

OT

HEy Zombie,
Did you get the info I sent you on the Marine Mom get together in Berkeley?

Yup. Know all about it! I replied later on that thread.

Thanks.

I just got home from work and heard the news about Romney.

Wow - some choice I get for my Wisconsin Primary on Feb 19th.

What a bunch of real troopers we have running in the GOP.

Grand Old Party? Ok. Maybe just mediocre.

re: #12 soccerdad

krager -- agreed in principle. But either of them will screw things over so badly, I'm wanting a Dem to be responsible for the wreckage and inspire a backlash in 2 or maybe 4 years.

In 4 years the military could be a complete shambles that could take the better part of a decade to rebuild at a time when it is needed the most, and all your finger wagging at democrats won't do us one damn bit of good

re: #15 zombie

re: #1 coquimbojoe

I hope they boo just a little.

I hope they boo a LOT! And I hope the boos get replayed over and over throughout the campaign.

It will earn McCain credentials with the Great American Center -- the boos from hardcore conservatives will push him over the top to victory.

Boo, my pretties, boo!

I guess my fear is that they will be polite. No booing will be played up as acceptance on the part of the right for McCain. I know I would be booing my ass off.

re: #29 zombie

COOL BEANS!
(go john)? At least till Newt declares at the Convention.

One can dream can't they?

Of course I'm not voting for Obama or Shrillary, but it just galls me to no end that I have to vote for McCain.

I'm so tired of being told to suck it up.

Please don't believe in me
please disagree with me
Life is too easy
a plague seems quite feasible now,
or maybe a war,
or I may kill you all.
Don't let me stay,
don't let me stay.
My logic says burn so send me away
Your minds are too green,
I despise all I've seen
You can't stake your lives
on a Saviour Machine

I'm going to start a new Party, the None Of The Above Party, change my name to "None of the Above", and try to get myself on all 50 States Presidential ballots.

I could win by a landslide as long as I stay completely off the media radar.

re: #30 mama winger

Mediocre Old Party, Exactly.
MOPE.

In 2004, LGFers and people like LGFers were the deciding factor that gave Bush the victory.

In 2008 it looks like the pouty sulkers will be dominant, will vote for Hillary or for no one at all, just out of orneryness and egotism, and thus we as a voting bloc will re-enter irrelevance.

Splendid.

mccain- at the Conservative Political Action Conference. How ironic.

Boycott McCain! Don't BOOO...just don't show up. Maybe an empty hall will give McCain a clue to what November will look like!

Too boo or not too boo. There are rational arguments on both sides.

Other than the WOT, the only other reason I'll be voting for McCain is because of the probable SCOTUS nominations that will be coming up. Hmmm, the SCOTUS replacements is one of the few reasons I voted for Bush (instead of none-of-the-above.) I'm starting to see a trend...

I predict the NRC/GOP is going to have a hard time raising money if they (and McCain) don't get their act together...having to vote defensively against the Democrats instead of for a real conservative is not a viable long term strategy.

There is nothing this bald-faced liar can say at this point to get my vote. After over thirty years of voting for Republicans who mouth the words of conservatism at election time, yet who relentlessly advance a socialist agenda after the elections are over, I will no longer participate in this filthy charade.

I will now be a witness to the destruction of this once-great Republic. Like a persecuted Christian during the worst days of the Roman Empire, or an unreconstructed Confederate after losing the War Between The States, or a Jew trapped in Germany during the reign of Hitler, this world will get very ugly, very fast. Of one thing I am certain; it will be difficult.

Look at the bright side - at least there won't be any more "McCain - {Insert name of uber-liberal Democratic Senator} bills / laws should Senator McCain make it to the White House.

George Allen really let us down with the utterance of that made-up word... He could have been a contenda!

we can see even in here WHO HAS FORGOTTEN SEPT 11

vote for defeat that is going to work

re: #29 zombie

Speaking of Berkeley;

Today the city of Berkeley, CA was invaded by the "forces" of Republic of Kiribati, an island nation comprised of 32 atolls and a single raised coral island, population of approximately 84,000.

A massive flotilla of out-riggers and rafts carrying the entire population of Kiribati landed at the beachfront along University Ave early yesterday morning. Encouraged by the weak resistance of Code Pink, using boat paddles and fishnets the islanders easily drove towards the heart of the city.

Speaking during a lull in confrontation, the leader of the I-Kiribati said "the leaders of Berkeley and Code Pink had failed to fulfill the obligations of the treaty. They have failed to hold back the rise of the ocean as they promised." Almost two years ago the Republic and the City of Berkeley, represented by Code Pink, signed a treaty of protection that assured the Republic that it would reverse the effects of global warming which was causing the ocean level to rise and inundate the islands.

Armed with picket signs and bull horns, the forces of Code Pink, who had been given the responsibility of defending the city after the city council voted 6-3 Tuesday night to tell the U.S. Marines that its Shattuck Avenue recruiting station "is not welcome in the city, and if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome intruders", were quickly routed by the superior arms of the invaders.

This ought to be interesting.

Okay. So now I know what to do. Work with conservatives inside the party to pull it as hard as I can as fast as I can to the right. Lobby for conservative VP choices. Write letters. Make noise. Call conservative congressmen. Call talk radio. Write blog entries. Write the part chairman. Send money ONLY to conservative candidates.

And above all get the truth out about Hillary and Obama.

I'm a good soldier.

We are the RINOs. Real Republicans are socialists.

re: #47 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #29 zombie

Speaking of Berkeley;

Today the city of Berkeley, CA was invaded by the "forces" of Republic of Kiribati, an island nation comprised of 32 atolls and a single raised coral island, population of approximately 84,000.

A massive flotilla of out-riggers and rafts carrying the entire population of Kiribati landed at the beachfront along University Ave early yesterday morning. Encouraged by the weak resistance of Code Pink, using boat paddles and fishnets the islanders easily drove towards the heart of the city.

Speaking during a lull in confrontation, the leader of the I-Kiribati said "the leaders of Berkeley and Code Pink had failed to fulfill the obligations of the treaty. They have failed to hold back the rise of the ocean as they promised." Almost two years ago the Republic and the City of Berkeley, represented by Code Pink, signed a treaty of protection that assured the Republic that it would reverse the effects of global warming which was causing the ocean level to rise and inundate the islands.

Armed with picket signs and bull horns, the forces of Code Pink, who had been given the responsibility of defending the city after the city council voted 6-3 Tuesday night to tell the U.S. Marines that its Shattuck Avenue recruiting station "is not welcome in the city, and if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome intruders", were quickly routed by the superior arms of the invaders.

Did they kill and eat the Code Pinkos? Or at least shrink their heads?

/

Sorry, been down that "lesser evil" path TWICE and it got us unguarded borders and return to deficits. Won't do that again. I'm voting for Fred (he's still on the ballot here)

To borrow a page from Mandy's play book.
NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT! NEWT!

re: #15 zombie
You know, that's actually encouraging.

re: #50 zmdavid

We are the RINOs. Real Republicans are socialists.

I don't know whether to plus or minus that.

re: #37 Killgore Trout

re: #30 mama winger

Mediocre Old Party, Exactly.
MOPE.

Sweeet...very accurate!

re: #55 Ward Cleaver

re: #50 zmdavid

We are the RINOs. Real Republicans are socialists.

I don't know whether to plus or minus that.

I minused it.

re: #44 blackelkspeaks

I will now be a witness to the destruction of this once-great Republic

.

Don't be a witness. Get off your ass and get to work.

Anyone who feels they cannot vote for mccain- should still go vote for Congress and state//local candidates. Leave it blank, hold your nose, or whatever- still go vote!

All your leaders have fled together;
they have been captured without using the bow.
All you who were caught were taken prisoner together,
having fled while the enemy was still far away.
~ Isaiah 22:3

re: #3 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

McCain 08, because the other choices will screw you even more

Ah, the tried and true "We Suck Less" strategy.

I dislike McCain on many, many levels. However, there may be one reason to like him: him temperament. From all accounts, this man is on the temperamental side, and can be unpredictable (remember the "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb IRAN episode?).

Think of how much the rest of the world will dislike dealing with an American they deem a "loose screw." If he is elected president, the rest of the world may (key word may) have to tow the line or face McCain's wrath.

That thought makes me smile.

Like it or not John McCain will win the Republican nomination. I am not thrilled with his position on a lot of things. But, I am even less thrilled at the thought of having Hillery or Obama. Since this seems to be a no win situation I will have to take the best choice I can and that will have to be with McCain. Staying home and handing it to Obama or Hillery might make you feel good on the day of a vote but having to live 4 years with either one of them as President won't be all that fun either. I just hope McCain will have to good sense to chose a Vice President candidate that will make up for the unease I feel about him. No doubt we will all find out soon enough.

if the cons don't show up next fall honey don't come and ask me for anything after that because i will tell you to go to hell.

And all of you who have asked all of us to get behind McCain...you are in for a grand awakening...

If Hillary is not the nominee, McCain has no shot. If she is, it will be a toss up.

Pay attention to the news...this is about to happen:
McCain looks tired.
How do you feel now that you have beaten that CANCER?
Since you were involved in the Keating Five, what prompted you
to get involved in Campaign Finance reform?
Did you forget something?
Do you think you have the temperament for the office?
ETC.
They will insinuate, charge, beat around the bush, but they will drag him down. And if it takes them to elevating Bush to do it, they will... And they will attack him on his service record...just wait. The Gloves are OFF.

You are the salt of the earth.
But if salt has lost its taste , its strength, its quality, how can its saltness be restored?
It is not good for anything any longer but to be thrown out and trodden underfoot by men.
~ Matthew 5:13

Like always, conservatives playing the fool. The plan is to use Hillary disdain to get conservatives to vote for the Republican liberal. Not gonna work, it's all going up in a puff of Obama.

If there wasn't a war on, I'd be staying home rather than voting for McCain.

re: #64 yochanan

if the cons don't show up next fall honey don't come and ask me for anything after that because i will tell you to go to hell.

I thought this once. I thought- if the republican party gives me john mccain, honey don't come and ask me for anything after that because i will tell you to go to hell. Now- where has this line of thinking gotten us?

In his Feb. 7 Wonder Land column in the Wall Street Journal, Daniel Henninger advises conservatives to shut up and get with the McCain program:

Most of the distrust of the McCain candidacy is rooted in personal ill will. He's a hard case, and activists are often brittle. The fear is that one of the strongest impulses in a McCain presidency will be payback, and that he might sell out conservatives on taxes and the judiciary. That is possible, though by now it would require an act of deep duplicity by Mr. McCain. Here again, the conservatives should show more self-confidence.

Hmm... I don't think conservatives lack self-confidence. Rather, they are all too confident in their knowledge that Senator McCain is capable of acts of deep duplicity. Bill Clinton ran as a centrist and immediately began to govern as a hard-left liberal, until Newt Gingrich and the new GOP majority in Congress forced him to "triangulate" back to the center. Who in Congress will force a President McCain to triangulate, and in which direction? What in his record in the Senate indicates that he would even wish to stand up to Congressional Democrats to defend conservative domestic policies -- especially given the likelihood that they will demand he cave to their domestic policy priorities in return for allowing him some leeway on foreign policy and military affairs?

It's like going to the school cafeteria and they offer you mystery meat, chipped beef on toast, or tuna noodle casserole. All the choices make you want to barf. But refusing to eat in hopes that the cafeteria staff will get the message and suddenly start serving Shrimp Cocktail is silly.

What irks me most about liberals is their demand that you agree with all their dogma, or else you're a jerk.

Well, that's what's going on with the hard-line conservatives now. "If I can't win, I'll take my ball and go home! Waaah!"

I agree with the Romney thread quote from #23: patriotism demands picking the best available leader for our country. It's b/w McCain, Hillary and Obama. Frankly, the choice is easy, people. If you don't do your duty, it's Hillary or Obama, and yes, that would be worse for America than a McCain presidency.

My 2 cents.

re: #10 saberry0530

Does anyone have a three sided coin I can use to vote with?

Use a die: {1,2} {3,4} {5,6}

re: #72 mama winger

Happy lent. What did you give up?

re: #75 Killgore Trout

I gave up meat!

re: #38 zombie

In 2004, LGFers and people like LGFers were the deciding factor that gave Bush the victory.

In 2008 it looks like the pouty sulkers will be dominant, will vote for Hillary or for no one at all, just out of orneryness and egotism, and thus we as a voting bloc will re-enter irrelevance.

Splendid.

I was going to comment on an earlier thread about the low quality of ignorance that is evident in some of the posts regarding the coming election but find my thoughts expressed with exactitude in your comment. It seems that the quality of posters has declined measurably since 2004 and earlier. Some remind me of the kids you see throwing a tantrum at the supermarket check out counter. Others seem rather Mobyish.

Where can I find the stream of CPAC. I wanna hear McCain and Fox has just an empty podium and some guy droning on and on.

re: #76 chubby vegan

re: #75 Killgore Trout

I gave up meat!

Heh. I gave up god.

re: #2 mike_trivisonno

I am voting Democrat.

from the looks of it... democ-rats are all that's left.
i am very disappointed... disillusioned... disgusted.

This should be interesting...

Hopefully Mccain will get the message.

re: #62 shibumi

My thoughts exactly. How do you think that Hugo Chavez and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad will react to this guy? We KNOW how they'll react to President Obama/Hellary...

BHG

re: #79 Killgore Trout

re: #76 chubby vegan

re: #75 Killgore Trout

I gave up meat!

Heh. I gave up god.

But, he hasn't given up on you.

re: #62 shibumi

Think of how much the rest of the world will dislike dealing with an American they deem a "loose screw." If he is elected president, the rest of the world may (key word may) have to tow the line or face McCain's wrath.

That thought makes me smile.

Expect McCain to take on the mantle of Reagan in this respect at least:
"He's a crazy cowboy who'll destroy the world!"

Zombie, Momma Winger...

With all due respect, I would at least like a second party. I feel like this is an election in Cuba. You get one choice, that's not much of an election.

F that!

re: #75 Killgore Trout

re: #72 mama winger

Happy lent. What did you give up?

I do Lent a little differently . I try to add something good to the life of others, instead of taking away. Addition beats subtraction.

(I have vowed to be extremely nice to service people : wait staff, clerks, snowplow guys, etc. )

I ROMNOR CAN NEVER BE DEFEATED! ROMNOR IS JUST PULLING OUT FOR THE GOOD OF THE PARTY! YEAH, THAT'S THE TICKET! EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A BAJILLION MORE LSD BUCKS TO BLOW, AND I SORT OF PROMISED NOT TO PULL OUT THE OTHER NIGHT... ROMNOR PROMISES NOT TO TELL ABOUT THE HORSE'S HEAD HE WOKE UP WITH THIS MORNING!

re: #73 harrylook

Well said.

BHG

OT

Me thinks someone got up on the wrong side of the Sphinx...

Egyptian Foreign Minister: 'Anyone Breaching Gaza Border Gets Their Legs Broken'

An angry Egyptian foreign minister Ahmed Abul Gheit said Thursday, Feb. 7: “Anyone who breaches the border will have their legs broken.”
He reproached Hamas for firing rockets into Israel - thereby provoking the Israel blockade of Gaza - as “a laughable caricature.” Hamas spokesman Fawzi Barhum advised the Egyptian minister to stop making threats.

re: #36 CyanSnowHawk

I'm going to start a new Party, the None Of The Above Party, change my name to "None of the Above", and try to get myself on all 50 States Presidential ballots.

I could win by a landslide as long as I stay completely off the media radar.

None of the Above sounds like a new 'Family Circus' character, kind of like 'Not Me'.

re: #2 mike_trivisonno

I am voting Democrat.

You are voting for surrender in Iraq.

The night is nearly over; the day is almost here. So let us put aside the deeds of darkness and put on the armor of light.
~ Romans 13:12

WLGF out

re: #33 saberry0530

re: #29 zombie

COOL BEANS!
(go john)? At least till Newt declares at the Convention.

One can dream can't they?

Newt, save us!

re: #52 midow

Sorry, been down that "lesser evil" path TWICE and it got us unguarded borders and return to deficits. Won't do that again. I'm voting for Fred (he's still on the ballot here)

You are not alone. Voted for Fred on my absentee ballot this week. And will be bringing my pen to the general in November. I am tired of voting AGAINST the worst candidate!

re: #79 Killgore Trout

re: #76 chubby vegan

re: #75 Killgore Trout

I gave up meat!

Heh. I gave up god.

That's not in the spirit of Lent, but you did give me a chuckle.

re: #85 BulgarWheat

Zombie, Momma Winger...

With all due respect, I would at least like a second party. I feel like this is an election in Cuba. You get one choice, that's not much of an election.

F that!

I hear ya. We should work towards that as a long term goal, and deal with the short term in the short term.

Regarding George Allen:

It was not that he used that word, it is that he did not stand up and
defend himself, he should have said
"Yes, I called him Macaca because he was acting like a monkey on my back"

If he had done that, he would have neutralized the press and gained
support from people like us.

If I were him, I would put on a muscle shirt with Macaca Man written
on it, and declare my candidacy for Pres. as the only conservative running.

re: #86 mama winger

I do Lent a little differently . I try to add something good to the life of others, instead of taking away. Addition beats subtraction.

I like that angle, much more positive. Makes sense.

re: #83 coquimbojoe
re: #86 mama winger

That's why You Da Mama!

Beautiful. If I join you, will you be offended?

re: #62 shibumi

I dislike McCain on many, many levels. However, there may be one reason to like him: him temperament. From all accounts, this man is on the temperamental side, and can be unpredictable (remember the "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb, Bomb IRAN episode?).

Think of how much the rest of the world will dislike dealing with an American they deem a "loose screw." If he is elected president, the rest of the world may (key word may) have to tow the line or face McCain's wrath.

That thought makes me smile.

Me as well.

Crazy man at the helm. That'll make the Islamo-wackos think twice before trying something stupid.

re: #64 yochanan

if the cons don't show up next fall honey don't come and ask me for anything after that because i will tell you to go to hell.

Okay, I promise I won't.

re: #100 zombie

Does MCCain have the SOB factor like Rudy?

I'm still seeing an empty podium but hearing voices at CPAC. Which Cspan can I get a good live stream on?

re: #99 chubby vegan

re: #83 coquimbojoe
re: #86 mama winger

That's why You Da Mama!

Beautiful. If I join you, will you be offended?

I would be delighted ! :)

re: #72 mama winger

That's a wee bit flawed comparison, though...don't eat & you go hungry; don't vote, and the future will continue to unfold...no? :)

re: #44 blackelkspeaks

Well with that attitude I would suggest you learn to speak Chinese or Farsi.

re: #47 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Speaking on behalf to the US Marine Corp and the other branches of service, Col. "True" Justice stated "The city of Berkeley and Code Pink have made their own bed, now they have to sleep in it. Under no circumstances with the Marine Corp, or any of the other branches of the US military, will return to defend the city."

Maybe that'll actually happen one day.

My two shillings:

Clinton triangulation. WHy does anyone think the Clintons have been sitting on their hands for the last 8 years out of power? They've been working on this election since Gorebot screwed up in 2000. Oozing over and coddling McCain. Who was the biggest beneficiary of McCain-Feingold? George Soros, for crying out loud. How many media entities - all pro-LEft - have been spawned by that loathesome piece of legislation while the average man in the street is gagged?
Triangulated the Republicans to gridlock. They must be hysterically laughing at the DNC.
The Republican Party has a great tradition. Anti-slavery, pro-second amendment, including protecting 2nd Amendment rights fot African-Americans against Democrat shenanigans, pro-life, pro-business, low tax, strong military.
THe mistkae the GOP made was waaay back in Gingrich's day. They allowed too many liberal lefties to switch parties.

re: #100 zombie

That'll make the Islamo-wackos think twice before trying something stupid.

I'm worried about his stance on Gitmo and dealing with high level terrorists captured abroad. If he's going to close gitmo and free the terrorists I don't think they're going to be very afraid.

re: #102 chubby vegan

re: #100 zombie

Does MCCain have the SOB factor like Rudy?

"Big time."™
-- Cheney

Zombie,

In 2004, LGFers and people like LGFers were the deciding factor that gave Bush the victory.

In 2008 it looks like the pouty sulkers will be dominant, will vote for Hillary or for no one at all, just out of orneryness and egotism, and thus we as a voting bloc will re-enter irrelevance.

Splendid.

I couldn't have put it better myself. You're a credit to undead Americans.

re: #106 bulwrk

re: #44 blackelkspeaks

Well with that attitude I would suggest you learn to speak Chinese or Farsi.

Nah, as a Jew, I'm just getting my affairs in order and saying my prayers.

#100 zombie

I don't think the spectre of a middle-aged woman with a case of the hot flashes and a clear record of vegence at all costs is something they are looking forward to either. Hillary is a scary bitch, bottom line.

Beside, they would have to suffer the humiliation of being beaten or bombed by a woman.
Tehran, are you listening?

re: #105 Ma Sands

re: #72 mama winger

That's a wee bit flawed comparison, though...don't eat & you go hungry; don't vote, and the future will continue to unfold...no? :)

That's true. I could have used a better analogy.

re: #102 chubby vegan

re: #100 zombie

Does MCCain have the SOB factor like Rudy?

Well, he's managed to piss us off pretty effectively.

re: #104 mama winger

The way Jesus would have wanted Lent anyway. I am sooo on board! Thanks.

re: #100 zombie

Crazy man at the helm. That'll make the Islamo-wackos think twice before trying something stupid.

Sometimes before I vote, I remind myself that the person who takes the oath of office can singlehandedly start WWIII and precipitate the death of about 150 million Americans. I never would vote for someone who I consider of less than stellar mental facilities.

re: #113 BulgarWheat

I don't think the spectre of a middle-aged woman with a case of the hot flashes and a clear record of vegence at all costs is something they are looking forward to either.

I AM quite formidable when I get going.

... oh. you were talking about hillary.

nevermind.

re: #79 Killgore Trout

re: #76 chubby vegan

re: #75 Killgore Trout

I gave up meat!

Heh. I gave up god.

Atheist Lent?

This morning, Howard Dean sent out an email about this year's election. It said, in part:

John McCain will be the Republican nominee -- he's the only one with a reasonable path to the nomination.

So how do we beat him? We stand up -- right now -- start fighting, and show the American people that he's not who they think he is.

John McCain is a media darling, but don't trust his carefully-crafted image - he's worked for years to brand himself. From Iraq to health care, Social Security to special interest tax cuts to ethics, he's promising nothing more than a third Bush term.

***

On immigration reform, he's run as far to the right as he can, aligning himself with the most extreme elements of the Republican Party.

On the war, McCain scoffed at Bush's call to leave troops in Iraq for 50 years, saying "Make it a hundred!"

On a woman's right to choose, McCain has vowed to appoint judges who would overturn Roe v. Wade.

On the economy, one of the issues that the American people care most about, McCain has said: "I know a lot less about economics than I do about military and foreign policy issues. I still need to be educated."

We can't afford four more years with a President who drives the economy into the ground. We can't afford four more years with a President who fights an endless war in Iraq. We can't afford four more years with a President who gives tax cuts to companies who ship jobs overseas; with a President who can't get every American the health care they deserve; with a President we just can't trust.

oops sorry about the long post i ment to put it as a link

re: #117 EC Marm

re: #100 zombie

Crazy man at the helm. That'll make the Islamo-wackos think twice before trying something stupid.

Sometimes before I vote, I remind myself that the person who takes the oath of office can singlehandedly start WWIII and precipitate the death of about 150 million Americans. I never would vote for someone who I consider of less than stellar mental facilities.

If McCain gets in, we will see the draft reinstated. He has hinted at it before. I truly believe McCain WILL take on Iran.

If Huckleberry can hold through the first ballot...then it's not a done deal for McCain.

Mitt's speech to CPAC was awesome. If the country lets this guy go, we have no one to blame but ourselves.

re: #75 Killgore Trout

Voting

re: #107 Cygnus

re: #47 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Speaking on behalf to the US Marine Corp and the other branches of service, Col. "True" Justice stated "The city of Berkeley and Code Pink have made their own bed, now they have to sleep in it. Under no circumstances with the Marine Corp, or any of the other branches of the US military, will return to defend the city."

Maybe that'll actually happen one day.

Don't count on it. This Soldier knows that the Marines do not abdicate their responsibilities, even if the Berkeley City Council did.

A vote for a Democrat is a vote for socialism.

#121 Iron Fist

It would be another "Weekend at Bernies" and they'd prop up the stiffs until a democrat is in the Oval Office. It probably already smells that bad and maybe no one would notice.

Is this being broadcast on a channel?

re: #121 Iron Fist

Justice Marshall wanted them to prop him up in his seat if he died while Reagan was in office.

re: #119 Cygnus

Last year I give up Hitchens.

re: #61 CyanSnowHawk

Ah, the tried and true "We Suck Less" strategy.

Well, when the virtues are few, flaunt the hell out of them.

Even if McCain's only redeeming feature was that he was not Hillary Clinton or B. Hussein Obama, that is enough for me.

Fortunately, that is not the case, despite a few people here having tantrums and threatening to take their ball and go home.

I will show John McCain all of the respect that he has shown me and my beliefs.

re: #123 ergo sum

If McCain gets in, we will see the draft reinstated. He has hinted at it before.

Do you have a link for that?

Maybe I'm missing something here, but it seems to me that most Republicans in the primaries voted for Mr. McCain. There were plenty of candidates, there were conservative candidates, and when the voters went into the voting booth they chose McCain.

Anyone who thinks of sitting this one out and letting Hillary win is a being foolish. 8, maybe 16, years of Democratic dominance of the White House will see the complete rollback of any achievements of the Reagan and Bush eras. People really need to take a breath and think about it: John McCain will not advocate teaching preschoolers about abortion, Hillary and Obama might. Don't like activist judges on the Supreme Court? Hillary has some fabulous judges for you! Want to see military spending cut by 40%? Sit this one out.

Conservatives need to look themselves in the mirror and understand the Mr. McCain may not be perfect, but he is the perfect man for a nation fighting a war and 110 countries across the world. He is a man sympathetic to the conservative cause, and he is the one man that can prevent the disaster of an Obama or Clinton presidency.

Mrs. Clinton was a sinister hand, behind one of the most dishonest presidencies sees our nation has ever seen and Mr. Obama is an arch liberal opposed to everything conservatives stand for.

All evil needs in this world to happen is for good men and women to do nothing. The road to hell is truly paved with good intentions.

Fight the good fight, always believed that better days are ahead, never quit striving for what you believe, always make the best of a bad situation, count your blessings, and always remember things could be a whole lot worse.

I'll vote for McCain, but half-heartedly, and I don't expect him to win. This seems like a replay of '76 and '96--the Republican guy has "paid his dues" and it doesn't really matter who else might be better.

I suppose of the two possible winners, Hillary seems slightly more acceptable than Obama. Hillary will be a bad president, but I fear Obama might be of Carteresque proportions. Without Reagan we never would have recovered from Jhimmi, and I don't really see any Reagans on the horizon.

Still, miracles happen now and then.

Booo. (wife dumping, rino)

re: #127 FrogMarch

A vote for a Democrat is a vote for socialism.

A vote for Fred is a vote for "None of the Above"

Get over your bigoted anti-evangelicalism and embrace the truth... Huckabee is the conservative choice in 08!

I have a question for you guys. Why is McCain running as a Republican if it is obvious he will divide the party and lose in a landslide?

It will be interesting to see the new relationship between McCain and the DNC/MSM. McCain was their darling. That will stop now.

McCain is going to understand fairly quickly why the rest of us despise and distrust the state-run pro-Democrat media.

re: #136 BeckoningChasm

I'll vote for McCain, but half-heartedly, and I don't expect him to win. This seems like a replay of '76 and '96--the Republican guy has "paid his dues" and it doesn't really matter who else might be better.

I suppose of the two possible winners, Hillary seems slightly more acceptable than Obama. Hillary will be a bad president, but I fear Obama might be of Carteresque proportions. Without Reagan we never would have recovered from Jhimmi, and I don't really see any Reagans on the horizon.

Still, miracles happen now and then.

I can't vote for a democrat. That being said Obama doesn't seem so calculating and nasty as Hillary. Carteresque, yes. Bumbling and foolish, yes. Downright nasty and dare I say it evil, no.

re: #119 Cygnus

Atheist Lent?

That's where us atheists take up the slack on the economy from you Christians giving up too many things. It's a burden, but someone has got to consume while you guys are being all worshipful. ;)

re: #140 SecretInternetDoucheBag

Did you read Faith of Our Fathers?

Mr. McCain's best choice for running mate would be Kay Bailey Hutchinson from Texas. She brings balance as a conservative, southern, and a woman.

If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with.

The alternatives are a mortal danger to our well being.

Nine months is a long time, so much can happen.
I will just wait to see what the landscape looks like, then I will
make a decision.

re: #135 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Whatever gender either one of us might be:

Mwah!, I give you a kiss on the cheek for that most excellent comment!

re: #144 rappmandu

No.

re: #65 yesandno

They will insinuate, charge, beat around the bush, but they will drag him down. And if it takes them to elevating Bush to do it, they will... And they will attack him on his service record...just wait. The Gloves are OFF.

And if Mitt had gotten the nod the press would have had no problem running "Horrors of the Mormon Church" TV news exposés between now and November. If it were Huck, they would cover his campaign like it were an episode of Hee Haw.

The press is ruthless to Republicans. The choice of republican is insignificant on that factor.

re: #121 Iron Fist

re: #42 dmjung,

Look at how well Bush's SCOTUS picks have turned out. Other than the unfortunate episode with Harriet Meirs, which he quickly reversed on, Bush has done well on judges, and the SCOTUS in particular. I wish one or two of the Lib Justices would decide to retire before he leaves office.

So far I have been pleased with Bush's picks...the Meirs thing was kind of surreal. I'm not sure what happened with that other than I'm thinking at that time in history the White House / Bush may have felt isolated and didn't trust anyone so he went with someone he knew personally.

If McCain replaces liberal SCOTUS judges with one's equal to Bush's then it will be worth it in the long run.

There's a possibly historically pivotal 2A case coming up in front of the SCOTUS this year.

I ROMNOR WOULD NEVER HAVE LAUNCHED THE NUKES IN A PETTY TEMPER TANTRUM, BUT IF THAT"S WHAT PEOPLE WANT, ROMNOR MIGHT HAVE COME AROUND! NOW EARTHLINGS WILL NEVER KNOW ROMNOR'S SWEET NUCLEAR WRATH!

re: #138 macintush

re: #127 FrogMarch

A vote for a Democrat is a vote for socialism.

A vote for Fred is a vote for "None of the Above"

A vote for Fred may feel good but it is no different that voting for Ross Perot circa 1992. We all wanted to punish read-my-lips George HW Bush - and look what it got us. Bill and Hillary Clinton.

I will not be taking the purist self-indulgent route. I am now a John McCain supporter.

You are free to choose.

re: #70 Sharmuta

re: #64 yochanan

if the cons don't show up next fall honey don't come and ask me for anything after that because i will tell you to go to hell.

I thought this once. I thought- if the republican party gives me john mccain, honey don't come and ask me for anything after that because i will tell you to go to hell. Now- where has this line of thinking gotten us?

I'm not sure, but why are we in this handbasket?

I dislike being chided for not wanting to pull the vote for McCain as-is. There are plenty of good reasons to dislike McCain the man and the candidate, and I'm not going to vote for the lesser evil just because. I did that the past two elections, and I'm irritated with it.

If he doesn't make certain moves, neither will I. And because those of us opposing him are sincere in that, he very well may make those moves. If not... Dems can't ruin the country in 4 years. There's a LOT of ruin in a country.

Okay, I am coming around. If Republicans controlled congress, I would be fine with Obie or Hillary. They would block each others initiativies. But do you want Pelosi and Feingold running the country? And from todays National Review on line:

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

There is a great deal of difference between Senators McCain and Clinton (and Obama), and those records become important as we recognize a few simple facts: We are in an existential war against Islamic terrorists throughout the world. This very week, Senator Clinton was asked what her first act in office would be. She stated that first act would be the beginning of the withdrawal of our troops from Iraq within 60 days. Her first act. That is a surrender to the enemy — there is no other way to portray such a withdrawal and there is no other way it will be portrayed by our enemies and other observers around the world.

Some will say, “She can’t mean it, she’s stronger and more sensible than that.” Caution: Recall that Senator Clinton will be our commander-in-chief from a party that also runs the Senate and House — and the leadership in the Senate and House, not to mention the most active members in them, want us out of Iraq. Even on her most “sensible” day do we think she can be relieved of that pressure? The Democrats on the Hill have been chomping at the bit to make good on their 2006 promises; will she really turn on them? Can she?

Second, we come to the realization that at least one Supreme Court justice is about to retire, and several others will be over age 70 come January 2009. Do we really think the nominees Senator McCain or Clinton (or Obama ) would appoint will be no different?

Let’s go to their records, to the very time-period opponents of Senator McCain cite in their indictment of him.

McCain voted to defund Planned Parenthood last year, Clinton didn’t and would likely expand Planned Parenthood’s taxpayer funding.

McCain voted to ban partial-birth abortion, Clinton didn’t and would likely reverse the partial-birth abortion ban.

McCain voted for Roberts and Alito and made the case for them in the media, Clinton didn’t.

McCain has never voted for a tax increase, Clinton will increase taxes.

McCain will continue the Bush tax cuts, Clinton will end them.

McCain will end pork-barrel spending, Clinton supports the endowment of projects like the Woodstock Museum with taxpayer funding.

McCain will not cut and run in Iraq, Clinton will work with Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senator Harry Reid to do just that.

From my blog of Jan. 17...

Republican vs. Democrat. Regardless of the ultimate standard bearer for each, the two political parties are miles apart when it comes to taxation. If you can forget race. if you can forget gender, if you can forget religion, and if you can forget experience; then you will have a clear choice as to which party represents your economic well-being. Those who say it's tweedle-dee, tweedle-dum are absolutely wrong.

And to paraphrase Winston Churchill: It is true that the vice of capitalism is that it appears not to favor everyone equally. But I would argue that it does present the best for all, and that would be equal opportunity. And of course, the virtue of socialism is that all misery is shared equally. Onerous taxation and wealth redistribution favors the latter.

I'll be perfectly honest... Ron Paul is looking mighty' good now. Although he is a wack job, so long as he limits the federal government to the point that I can stay in my state and never feel his influence because the feds have been rolled back, I think I'll be fine.

I see over and over, far too many who seem to think that if we just give the democrats the chance to screw up the country, then we will be able to get a "true" conservative in power. It simply will not happen. If either Hilary or Obama take the White House for the next 4-8 years, we will lose the war on terror at best, and at worst, the radical islamists will become nuclear states. At that point, it will simply be too late to reverse the tide, and we will face the choice surrender or die. McCain , regardless of his economic or social failures, will not permit that at least. If we do not like his presidency, at least then we might have a chance to find a better choice of leaders. After 8 years of the democrats, we will have no further choices.

Veep choices:

Haley Barbour

Kay Bailey Hutchinson

Michael Steele

Steve Forbes

any other thoughts ?

re: #157 Dave the...

Thanks. Instead of a Quote-A-Day calendar, I think I need a Good-Points-Of-McCain calendar.

re: #160 jimrich

After 8 years of the democrats, we will have no further choices.

That could very well be true.

re: #153 FrogMarch

Voting for Fred doesn ot make me feel good, but it does demonstrate that I'll not compromise my convictions, as so mant commenters here are apparently willing to do.

I won't stay home, I'll go vote for conservative congressional candidates, and for whatever local and state business needs attending to.

But as for the President, the battle is already over. On to the next one.

re: #145 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Mr. McCain's best choice for running mate would be Kay Bailey Hutchinson from Texas. She brings balance as a conservative, southern, and a woman.

It makes sense. He is more limited then previous nominees in picked a VP. With the other side making history, two white men will seem a much derided anachronism.

As long as he doesn't choose Rice.

re: #89 ornery elephant

OT

Me thinks someone got up on the wrong side of the Sphinx...

An angry Egyptian foreign minister Ahmed Abul Gheit said Thursday, Feb. 7: “Anyone who breaches the border will have their legs broken.”

He's just angry because George Bush and the Jooos cut the undersea cable that provides him his Interweb.

/s

re: #163 mama winger

I think if there is a dreaded H/O ticket, I could see a 16 year Dem reign...

We'll see where things go... McCain needs to really lay out a vision of America... None of the candidates are very visionary...

re: #100 zombie

zombie, McCain is a candidate of the endless war and borderless America. That last part means that he's fanatically dedicated to this nation's destruction. And he will roll over the American public in the pursuit of his insane goal (which he views as pure 200-proof patriotism, of course) just as ruthlessly as you imagine him rolling over our enemies.

What good would flag-waving do you, when there's no Republic for which it used to stand left?

I'll also use the spell check feature from now on.

re: #161 mama winger
Add to your list
JC Watts

re: #146 Opinionated

If you can't be with the one you love, love the one you're with.

Indeed.

re: #164 macintush
I would assume there would be someone running on the Conservative ticket running for President.

When's he supposed to speak?

re: #161 mama winger

Veep choices:

Haley Barbour

Kay Bailey Hutchinson

Michael Steele

Steve Forbes

any other thoughts ?

McCain better choose someone great with amazing conservative credibility. I fear he will not - I fear it will be Huckabee.

i want to see JC Watts as VP

re: #51 Ward Cleaver

re: #47 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #29 zombie

Speaking of Berkeley;

Armed with picket signs and bull horns, the forces of Code Pink, who had been given the responsibility of defending the city after the city council voted 6-3 Tuesday night to tell the U.S. Marines that its Shattuck Avenue recruiting station "is not welcome in the city, and if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome intruders", were quickly routed by the superior arms of the invaders.

Did they kill and eat the Code Pinkos? Or at least shrink their heads?

/

Code Pinkos should have their heads shrunk to be closer to their brains. Otherwise there is a complete waste of space

re: #172 xtraBilly

re: #164 macintush
I would assume there would be someone running on the Conservative ticket running for President.

If not, we keep voting for conservatives in the primaries. This war is a long one. The battles rarely last more than eight years...

More from NRO. Not saying I'm flip-flopping over-night...not saying I'm all our for McCain. Just presenting someones case for McCain..or more particularly Bill Bennetts case that McCain is better then Hillary or Obie, by a long ways.

As for those who have taken to labeling Senator McCain a liberal, we reject that.

A liberal does not have a zero rating from NARAL and a 17-percent voting record with the AFL-CIO (the same rating as Sen. Jim DeMint, by way of comparison).

A liberal does not have this written about him by Sen. Jon Kyl: “On the ever-important issue of life, Senator McCain has a record of voting for pro-life legislation: He has voted for bans on partial birth abortion; he has supported Unborn Victims of Violence Act and parental notification for minors; and he has voted against using federal money to distribute morning-after contraception in schools. He has repeatedly cosponsored the Child Custody Protection Act, which prohibits the transportation of minors across state lines in order to circumvent state laws, requiring instead the involvement of parents in abortion decisions.”

A liberal does not vote to defund Planned Parenthood.

A liberal does not go on television and radio to defend Sam Alito and John Roberts.

A liberal does not go on the road to campaign for Social Security retirement accounts.

A liberal does not support the surge or the stay in Iraq.

A liberal does not support extending Bush’s tax cuts.

A liberal does not get the endorsements of Tom Coburn, Jack Kemp, Steve Forbes, Rudy Giuliani, Sam Brownback, Tim Pawlenty, Phil Gramm, Jeff Flake, Jon Kyl, and Ted Olson.

Senator McCain may have some liberal positions, but he is not a liberal. He is a conservative with some liberal positions. But on life, taxes, and national defense, his record is, in fact, very strong.

Let us repeat. We know the “yes, but,” argument against Senator McCain — and agree with some of it. But let us not fool ourselves that there is no difference between Senator McCain and whomever the Democrats nominate. (What we have written above about Senator Clinton holds true of Senator Barack Obama as well).

Over the past two years, the conservative movement has lifted Senator Joe Lieberman onto their shoulders higher and higher (rightly, in our view), and yet many of the same people who have done that have sworn off of Senator McCain. Notwithstanding much of our praise for Senator Lieberman, he is far to the left of Senator McCain — with a lifetime ACU rating of 17 percent and an ADA (Americans for Democratic Action, a liberal counter-part to the ACU ratings), in 2006, of 75 percent.

Senator Clinton’s respective ratings? Nine percent from the ACU and 95 percent from the ADA.

Senator Obama’s respective ratings? Eight percent from the ACU and 95 percent from the ADA.

Senator McCain’s respective ratings? 82.3 percent from the ACU and 15 percent from the ADA.

We do not have perfect nominees and never have. As John Hinderaker pointed out recently, since Calvin Coolidge, we haven’t even had a pure “conservative ideologue” in our party elected president. And even that one “purist” was not free of blemishes and criticism, much as we rightly venerate him.

Let’s admit the concern: Some people predict that a President McCain will open the borders, close Guantanamo, and tie our policies to some false premises related to global warming. We hope he doesn’t, but even critics must admit it is just as likely — if not more so — that his legacy will be the following: He pursued al-Qaeda to the ends of the Earth and vanquished them; he cut deficit spending and vetoed pork-barrel spending over and over again; he appointed four good justices to the Supreme Court; and he reinvigorated a sense of thoughtful patriotism, citizenship, and unselfish devotion to the Republic.

re: #114 mama winger

re: #105 Ma Sands

re: #72 mama winger

That's a wee bit flawed comparison, though...don't eat & you go hungry; don't vote, and the future will continue to unfold...no? :)

That's true. I could have used a better analogy.

Analogy that makes sense, as the environment is here to stay:

McCain...let the market decide, "Poverty is a poor steward", no mention of Kyoto, Global Warming, or cap and trade.

Clinton-Cap and trade, spend, spend, spend

The food analogy was proper to begin with. If you ate and barfed, you would also be hungry, possibly.

re: #165 Opinionated

re: #145 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Mr. McCain's best choice for running mate would be Kay Bailey Hutchinson from Texas. She brings balance as a conservative, southern, and a woman.

It makes sense. He is more limited then previous nominees in picked a VP. With the other side making history, two white men will seem a much derided anachronism.

As long as he doesn't choose Rice.

Kay Bailey is on my black list as well, she's is very silent on the border control issue.

re: #135 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Maybe I'm missing something here, but it seems to me that most Republicans in the primaries voted for Mr. McCain. There were plenty of candidates, there were conservative candidates, and when the voters went into the voting booth they chose McCain.

I call bullshit. Because of the media blitz between Iowa and Florida, by the time Super Tuesday rolled around, the Republican field was down to three plus Crazy Uncle Ron. That means that, what?, a total of maybe five contests, four in relatively small states, determined who I (in California) got to choose from, unless I wanted to waste a vote on a candidate who'd already dropped out. And with heavy absentee voting done weeks in advance, a ton of votes were indeed wasted that way.

So no, I don't buy into McCain as the choice of the majority of the party. The only places he crossed the 50% threshold were NY, NJ and CT, so I guess he's the choice of Bloomberg Republicans.

re: #109 Killgore Trout

re: #100 zombie

That'll make the Islamo-wackos think twice before trying something stupid.

I'm worried about his stance on Gitmo and dealing with high level terrorists captured abroad. If he's going to close gitmo and free the terrorists I don't think they're going to be very afraid.

I'm concerned about that too - it's a hand delivered message to the ROP wackos. He's a weakling. And he's a nut. At this point, I'm watching, learning, waiting and not making any Big Decisions.

re: #138 macintush

re: #127 FrogMarch

A vote for a Democrat is a vote for socialism.

A vote for Fred is a de facto vote for "None of the Above" the Democrat.

Lot's o' correcting work to do today.

re: #170 Perry

re: #161 mama winger
Add to your list
JC Watts

Yes!

I like the idea of focusing on McCain's good points. If any enthusiasm can be generated for him, that can only help. Not that we should forget the areas where he "needs work," but you have to deal with the cards you've been dealt.

McCain wouldn't be the best President I've ever seen, but either Hillary or Obama would be a disaster.

Yay!... maybe he can finally push through that 50¢ per gallon Global Warming tax he has wanted!

Nope... no tax raises under McAmnesty!

re: #178 Dave the...

"Bill Bennetts case that McCain is better then Hillary or Obie, by a long ways."

Let me add to that:

A conservative does not vote to violate the constitution, and silence the peoples' freedom of speech.

re: #140 SecretInternetDoucheBag

I have a question for you guys. Why is McCain running as a Republican if it is obvious he will divide the party and lose in a landslide?

Because you're wrong?

When is McCain supposed to be speaking. I'd like to hear what he has to say.

re: #49 mama winger

Okay. So now I know what to do. Work with conservatives inside the party to pull it as hard as I can as fast as I can to the right. Lobby for conservative VP choices. Write letters. Make noise. Call conservative congressmen. Call talk radio. Write blog entries. Write the part chairman. Send money ONLY to conservative candidates.

And above all get the truth out about Hillary and Obama.

I'm a good soldier.

Mama Winger, Ill be honored to go to war against the L3ft with you.

"I wish to have no connection with any ship that does not sail fast; for I intend to go in harm's way." - John Paul Jones (1747 - 1792), Letter, November 16, 1778

re: #148 zombie

Zombie, I am not that kind of Ayatollah, the question is what flavor of Zombie are you?

It sounds like the start of a really good dirty joke, "an Ayatollah chatted up a Zombie online and they headed off to his place..."

Dick Armey is speaking now. My live stream form FOX still sucks.

re: #145 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

Mr. McCain's best choice for running mate would be Kay Bailey Hutchinson from Texas. She brings balance as a conservative, southern, and a woman.

Condi Rice for Veep. She has all the Kay Bailey advantages, plus is black and highly accomplished (unlike William Jefferson Clinton's future ex-wife).

Still, Fred Thompson or Newt Gingrich in the Veep slot will make the conservatives happy.

I'm going to either vote 3rd party or simply not vote.

re: #183 Lizard by the Bay

re: #138 macintush

re: #127 FrogMarch

A vote for a Democrat is a vote for socialism.

A vote for Fred is a de facto vote for "None of the Above" the Democrat.

Lot's o' correcting work to do today.

Which Democrat? Obama. HillBillary, McCain or Huckaby?

WATTS!

The primary system is a joke and a fraud. McLiberal was anointed by the MSM (which tells you he ain't conservative) and in many...far too many early primaries, non Republicans were allowed to participate...voting for him.

Looks like we will have 2 democrats to choose from come November...McAmnesty or the other Democrat.

It is a very bitter pill, but I refuse to hand over the Supreme court nominations and our National Defense to Shrillery or Obama so I will have to vote for McAmnesty and wash it down with a tequila.

Sure, it would be tempting to vote for ShrillObama and lay the blame on the Dems for the mess that will ensue from a liberal agenda, but the reality is, the MSM will NEVER cast stones at a LIB POTUS and the damage will be generational, not just for 4 years.

It looks like the dinosaur moderates of the GOP are getting back in power and will push out conservative values as they do so.

On a side note, the Queen Bee is not doing very well, but she won't go down without a fight and the knock down drag out from now to November may leave ShrillObama too worn out to spend much powder on McAmnesty.

Please don't turn over the hen house to the weasels just because McAmnesty is not a true conservative. If you don't get out and vote AGAINST ShrillObama, don't complain when taxes go up and the war moves over here. IMHO Voting against McAmnesty will only fuel the Republican moderates to move further left , not right.

re: #178 Dave the...

Is that from Bill Bennett?

I have always liked him. Add him to my Veep choice list. It'll make the Dems heads explode.

re: #142 coquimbojoe

I can't vote for a democrat. That being said Obama doesn't seem so calculating and nasty as Hillary. Carteresque, yes. Bumbling and foolish, yes. Downright nasty and dare I say it evil, no.

But who is Obama beholden to? Just where are these untold millions that just keep rolling in to his campaign like an ocean tide coming from?

That's where Obama gets dangerous.

George Allen will introduce McCain at CPAC, not Juan Hernandez.

re: #173 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

In a little less than an hour according to Fox.

re: #190 sandspur

I hope we can get enough people together to form a kick-ass battalion.

RON PAUL!

re: #203 Oh no...Sand People!

RON PAUL!

Heh

re: #201 MellyMel

re: #173 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

In a little less than an hour according to Fox.

3:00 Sen. John McCain (AZ) – Regency Ballroom
Updated...Introduction: Tom Coburn

4:30
Rep. Ron Paul (TX)
Regency Ballroom
Introduction: Hon. Bob Barr, Liberty Strategies, LLC

FRIDAY:

10:20
President George W. Bush
Regency Ballroom

re: #188 Lizard by the Bay

On a previous thread, I commented about your dinging of certain links.
I researched and found that LoneStarLizard was the actual nic that was dinging. When you dinged my comment, I thought "there he goes again".

I apologize to you for mixing you up with another lizard.

McCain is scheduled to address CPAC at 3 pm EST.

The WORST signal that anyone could send would be a big outburst of boos. Talk about supporting the enemy party!

Telling the nation that we won't follow or are unwilling to listen to the candidate chosen by the party within the constraints of the current nomination process is an abandonment of conservatism in favor of defeatism and despair.

We are better than that.

re: #201 MellyMel

re: #173 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

In a little less than an hour according to Fox.

Thanks!

I'm still disappointed about Mitt. But like a good little Republican, I'll be eating the excrement sandwich in November.

RE: #178 Dave the...

I concur with Mr. Bennett's first thesis when he says, "Let’s admit the concern: Some people predict that a President McCain will open the borders, close Guantanamo, and tie our policies to some false premises related to global warming. We hope he doesn’t,..."

But if he really believes his second thesis, which is "... but even critics must admit it is just as likely — if not more so — that his legacy will be the following: He pursued al-Qaeda to the ends of the Earth and vanquished them; he cut deficit spending and vetoed pork-barrel spending over and over again; he appointed four good justices to the Supreme Court; and he reinvigorated a sense of thoughtful patriotism, citizenship, and unselfish devotion to the Republic.", then Bennett, regardless of all of his "schooling", is an absolute asshole! I can't find a better example of wishful thinking or blind ignorance! This is kind of "thinking" is truly "the triumph of (asinine) hope over experience".

re: #178 Dave the...

Is that from Bill Bennett?

I have always liked him. Add him to my Veep choice list. It'll make the Dems heads explode.

heh, I always found the hatred towards Bennett puzzling. What a great mind.

Now we have a new twist. MSM and Democrats have always loved the "maverick" McCain. Now that he is the nominee, that will end. Generally a VP pick has no affect on the election, but I hope JMac picks well.

Meanwhile in more important news!...

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

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re: #78 The Pulchritudinous Patriot
I have CSPAN3 on. Cheney is speaking at ACPAC.

re: #161 mama winger

Veep choices:

Haley Barbour

Kay Bailey Hutchinson

Michael Steele

Steve Forbes

any other thoughts ?

Frank Keating

re: #208 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I'm still disappointed about Mitt. But like a good little Republican, I'll be eating the excrement sandwich in November.

That made me laugh. Hopefully, something will happen between now and then.

T- 45 seconds shuttle launch!

Shuttle is just about to launch.

If you don't vote for whoever ends up winning, you threw away your vote.

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There is no conservative option for the office of President. Now we just have to focus on getting a conservative majority in the House and Senate and hope they have a backbone.

McCongrats...to all the republican McMasochists who voted McAmnesty.

I never did quite understand the allure of the dominatrix, but you've chosen a good on in McCain...

"Please, Please crap on us again...ooh yeah Master...whip us too...got any pee?" :)

re: #209 blackelkspeaks

Anyone linking McCain to "thougtful patriotism and citizenship" should have his driver's license permanently revoked.

re: #208 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

I'm still disappointed about Mitt. But like a good little Republican, I'll be eating the excrement sandwich in November.

Heh, I'm just going to have a small bite about 2 minutes before the polls close.

re: #206 Le_Patriot

My apologies also for snapping at you like I did. I'm just getting a little tired and cranky from the defeatist zealots telling me I'm the traitor for wanting to rally behind the Republican nominee.

Still impressed when the shuttle takes off.

re: #6 soccerdad

could i really vote for shrillary or Obama? Looks more like it than ever...

Oh, good. Spite. That'll show them, soccermom.
Me, I'll take a RINO over a socialist anyday.

yep...Cheney speaking..

re: #213 really grumpy big dog Johnson

re: #161 mama winger

Veep choices:

Haley Barbour

Kay Bailey Hutchinson

Michael Steele

Steve Forbes

any other thoughts ?

Frank Keating

JC Watts

Seriously. I don't give a rat's behind at this point. Republican or Democrat, we will receive nothing but more of the same crap that our elected representatives have been handing ever since they sold out to the Saudi pigs.

There will be more, not less, islamic imperialism.
There will be more, not less, violent jihad.
Western Civilization will contract not expand.
The Islamic Empire will expand through increasing violence rather than be beaten back with increasing resistance.

Our entire system is rife with weakness. It's more than just the US Presidential election. It's a slow, 1,400 year decline in the face of Islamic Imperialism. The selection of McCain as GOP candidate simply underscores our inability to defend our culture as whole.

Western Civilization is pwned.

Incidentally, all of us previous Romney supporters should really stop firing on John McCain. It is Huckabee that deserves the derision, for splitting the conservative vote, and for his unforgivable religion-baiting that tried to cast Romney as a devil-worshiper. For that behavior alone I think Huckabee should have been ridden out of the party on a rail.

Huckabee, not McCain, is the reason Mitt threw in the towel today.

re: #194 DWalla

I'm going to either vote 3rd party or simply not vote.

then don't complain about what you get i recommend you start taking Arabic lessons. enjoy your new overlords.

and don't comeback after the election trying to change the party becuase in my mind you will not be welcome

re: #226 mrclark

yep...Cheney speaking..

That's from this morning. Tune into to Fox at 3. They're gonna carry it live.

re: #223 Lizard by the Bay

I'm just getting a little tired and cranky from the defeatist zealots telling me I'm the traitor for wanting to rally behind the Republican nominee.

Hopefully you'll understand. There are some people that go into the showroom, ask the price on an item, and then pay it. There are other people that sit down, haggle, bitch and moan, filibuster, bitch some more, and end up with a deal that is more to their liking.
Forgive those of us that see bitching and moaning as a good strategy.

Thompson for VP, mclame is old.

re: #154 incanus

re: #70 Sharmuta

re: #64 yochanan

if the cons don't show up next fall honey don't come and ask me for anything after that because i will tell you to go to hell.

I thought this once. I thought- if the republican party gives me john mccain, honey don't come and ask me for anything after that because i will tell you to go to hell. Now- where has this line of thinking gotten us?

I'm not sure, but why are we in this handbasket?

We thought we'd make the tent bigger by appealing to moderates, when what we should have doe was make the tent bigger by espousing Conservatism more effectively. I'll say this for ron paul- he's shown the effectiveness of the new media in spreading his message (albeit to a strange audience). We don't have to rely any longer on the oldstream media, we can and should promote our principles in ways the the msm can't distort. I think he internet/blogosphere could really assist us in this.

re: #229 Lizard by the Bay

Incidentally, all of us previous Romney supporters should really stop firing on John McCain. It is Huckabee that deserves the derision, for splitting the conservative vote, and for his unforgivable religion-baiting that tried to cast Romney as a devil-worshiper. For that behavior alone I think Huckabee should have been ridden out of the party on a rail.

Huckabee, not McCain, is the reason Mitt threw in the towel today.

I am a firm believer in misdirection. For instance, if my foot hurts, I pinch my arm. The 3 stooges method. It works.

as for now...I'm going to yank some teeth out with a set of Craftsman pliers.

IMHO, McCain stands about as much chance in the general election as Bob Dole in 1996.

the people have voted A MENSCH accepts the result. crybabies joined the democrats and cried for 8 years. i was sick of it when they did it and am not happy about it when the 'perfect' cons. do it in my party.

SOD OFF

re: #194 DWalla

I'm going to either vote 3rd party or simply not vote.

Please vote- at least for Congress and your local republicans if nothing else.

re: #231 Canadian Guy

re: #226 mrclark

yep...Cheney speaking..

That's from this morning. Tune into to Fox at 3. They're gonna carry it live.

THANK YOUUU!

I'm not sucking it up anymore. I'm voting democrat. They'll do less damage.

re: #44 blackelkspeaks

Don't worry, the media will do McCain in. your vote won't matter.
Do what you want .
Hello President Obama. the media loves him.

Mama Winger,

What do you think of McCain adding Jeb Bush to his ticket as veep?
After all ...
Florida is a big state in contention.
Its sorta southern
Liberals would go nuts ... conservatives would be pleased.

I like Michael Steele, but isn't he from California? Not good.

Forbes is from NJ. That has some allure. Flat tax may be an idea for today, too.

Haley Barbour ... Hmmm, he's Southern (Mississippi). He handled Katrina beautifully. (Witness how well Mississippi recovered compared to corrrupt Louisiana). Wasn't he the RNC chair or something like that? If so, he's got strong conservative insider creds. Hmmm. Move him up the list.

I love Watts. From Oklahoma. No real electoral votes there. Conservative and Christian.

Kay Bailey Hutch will only reinforce the Texas vote we're expecting. Big state that's already very red. I'm not sure what she'd bring other than her gender.

I have McCainDS

re: #234 newsjunkie_ky
Thompson 6 years younger than McCain

re: #208 The Pulchritudinous Patriot

Yeah, me too. Going to start the task of finding reasons to like him more thought. Make myself feel a bit better.

re: #229 Lizard by the Bay

I agree on this point.

Of all the days for me to be in meetings.

I missed Romney's speech completely. What did he say?

re: #245 chubby vegan

re: #234 newsjunkie_ky
Thompson 6 years younger than McCain

I know.

Beam me up!

Galaxy without dark matter puzzles astronomers

The Light shines on in the darkness, and the darkness has never overpowered it [put it out, absorbed it, appropriated it, and is additionally entirely unreceptive to it].
~ John 1:5

Any Conservative who vows to sit this election out is neither a patriot or a conservative.

re: #248 loppyd

basically..

So is McCain at 3 eastern?

I hope the audience does exactly the same thing McCain has done to conservatives. Get up, turn their backs, and walk out.

re: #234 newsjunkie_ky

Sorry...scatalogical...yOU have been warned, but (as) appropriate (as it can be)
[Link: www.theonion.com...]

thought = though. PIMF!

re: #213 really grumpy big dog Johnson

re: #161 mama winger

Veep choices:

Haley Barbour

Kay Bailey Hutchinson

Michael Steele

Steve Forbes

any other thoughts ?

Frank Keating

Or Charles Keating.

re: #248 loppyd

Of all the days for me to be in meetings.

I missed Romney's speech completely. What did he say?

It was the best speech of the campaign by any candidate this election.

re: #252 maddogg

I joined the military a couple months after 911. I am sitting out this election. Expletive you

McCain in a few moments...

Michael Steele on Fox now talking about McCain and the choice of Veep...

#42 dmjung

I have NO faith that McLame will pick reliably conservative SCOTUS judges.

After all, look what happened with Reagan's picks: Scalia great, Rehnquist pretty good, Kennedy not so good, O'Connor looned out on us.

Same with Bush: Thomas - hasn't done anything dumb yet, but there's time. Souter? Conservative? That one didn't work out so good either.

And don't forget that Ford is responsible for Stevens.

re: #252 maddogg

Any Conservative who vows to sit this election out is neither a patriot or a conservative.

Saying that doesn't make it so. I think my 22 years spent defending this country gives me a right to not be an active participant in it's destruction. I think I can sit out one election. I will probably go to vote for the House and Senate races but I won't be voting for any presidential candidate.

George Allen is introducing McCain.