This is an obamination.

He actually used a lot of Sharpton rethoric in his Harlem speech.

Politicians do that.

This will not derail the Obamarama one bit. Hillary may try to spin this thing as worse than it is, but I don't see it lasting beyond the news cycle.

And if he actually got permission from Patrick, then it's not plagiarism. Or, in the alternative, he could claim that his underlings took liberties and didn't realize that this was the case.

However, the problem is that there were rumblings of plagiarism last year. Hot Air has the details on that.

You mean Obama can only say things that others have said? He has nothing to say that comes from him? And this is news? Obama hasn't said anything substative since day 1

That's okay. Patrick supports Obama.

Serious lack of substance when he's ripping off speeches from that featherweight Patrick.

Potential plagiarism? Wow... I mean... wow... I'm just stunned... stunned that this is all the shrillary can come up with... sheesh... so he ripped of JFK, MLK and every other person whose had a speech about "hope" and not much else... what was that about a glass house shrillary?

It's just words...

Spontaneous Marxism of the Words.

Speeches are all that he has. Borrowed magic?

Mrs. Clinton is already ripping off the Silky Pony to some extent.

Democrats are so unimaginative.

Biden him!

But then I guess it's hard to avoid plagiarism when nothing being said is original to begin with...
sigh...
sigh...
sigh...

strange magic

He needs to try harder if he wants to get to Joe Biden's level.

So here's the question: Granted, he's not writing his own speeches, so do you blame Obama as the mouthpiece or do you blame his speechwriter? I'm just curious.

So if you steal something with no substance have you stolen anything at all?

JWM

re: #17 JWM

So if you steal something with no substance have you stolen anything at all?

JWM

If hope falls in a forest, does anything change?

What's really funny about this is it comes from a ''can't recall,'' couple who parse the meaning of the words like, "is."
Obama speaks in such hazy unsubstantiated promises that everybody thinks he's agreeing with them.
Ask them if they actually agree with one another's ideas of what Obama is promising and you'd see fur fly.
That would be an effective Hillary tactic.
She's too panicked to see it though.

It's not plagiarism but he certainly borrowed the concept.

What is truly astonishing is how inept and pathetic the Clintons appear. This is the best they can come up with in the way of dirt? Tsk tsk, how the mighty fall.

A bit underwhelming, this.

Those of us who don't care for Obama have better reasons; and if you're one of his followers this won't likely deter you a bit.

re: #20 Killgore Trout

Silly Kilgore, he LIBERATED it.

re: #23 WriterMom

Heh.

re: #18 mama winger

re: #17 JWM

So if you steal something with no substance have you stolen anything at all?

JWM

If hope falls in a forest, does anything change?

EXCELLENT!

re: #22 Cognito

A bit underwhelming, this.

Those of us who don't care for Obama have better reasons; and if you're one of his followers this won't likely deter you a bit.

Do you think the B.O. balloon is going to be popped in one stick of the pin? I think it is going to be more of a slow leaky pfffffffffttttttttt.

re: #17 JWM

So if you steal something with no substance have you stolen anything at all?

JWM

DMCA must have some sub-paragraph about Words floating in the Air which are not allowed to be reproduced by eather binary or carbon beings. And if telepathy is real, even ideas that float in the spirit realm such as Hope! and Change! are subject to infringement laws.

re: #25 MandyManners

Thanks Mandy. I do some of my best work on Mondays.

"I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling concept liberation is going on in here!"

"Here are your winnings new soundbites, sir."

Does anyone know if Obama and Patrick share the same speech writers?

And, if this is all Hillary has left for artillery, I'm going to make lots of popcorn for the next Democratic primaries.

I sense another round of Obamanisms coming.

JWM

O'bama says It's no big deal

If two Repubs worked together (or plagiarized) like this, the MSM would have a field day

Clinton is campaigning here today in Wisconsin. She sounds raspy and weak. Crowds are not beating down the doors to get into her events. I plan to vote for her tomorrow, if I can sufficiently suppress my gag reflex.

re: #18 mama winger

re: #17 JWM

So if you steal something with no substance have you stolen anything at all?

JWM

If hope falls in a forest, does anything change?

It's stolen and used as a plank in the Dem Party platform.

re: #23 WriterMom

re: #20 Killgore Trout

Silly Kilgore, he LIBERATED it.

"Drive it like you liberated it?"

re: #32 Izzy Dunne

O'bama says It's no big deal

Yeah, drug use, plagiarism, socialism. It's all part of the Obama playbook. No big deal!

re: #32 Izzy Dunne

O'bama says It's no big deal

Is he Irish now?

re: #26 mama winger

Do you think the B.O. balloon is going to be popped in one stick of the pin? I think it is going to be more of a slow leaky pfffffffffttttttttt.

Either that, or someone will zoom in on his head with a camera and see that little tiny set of numbers. ;-)
/
Actually, I find the mania and the fainting and the glazed yet blazing eyes of his followers to be more than a little creepy. No sarc.

re: #40 cookielady

re: #26 mama winger

Do you think the B.O. balloon is going to be popped in one stick of the pin? I think it is going to be more of a slow leaky pfffffffffttttttttt.

Either that, or someone will zoom in on his head with a camera and see that little tiny set of numbers. ;-)
/
Actually, I find the mania and the fainting and the glazed yet blazing eyes of his followers to be more than a little creepy. No sarc.

He's the Democratic Ron Paul. Scary.

re: #40 cookielady

Either that, or someone will zoom in on his head with a camera and see that little tiny set of numbers. ;-)
/
Actually, I find the mania and the fainting and the glazed yet blazing eyes of his followers to be more than a little creepy. No sarc.

I guess if he suffers a mortal head wound, and then rises up to adulation and applause, we'll know for sure.

only half sarc. Is there a tag for that?

Judging by Patrick's popularity here in MA I would suggest Obama NOT draw attention to Deval Patrick. Patrick has been the failure we expect Obama to be.

/

re: #44 buzzsawmonkey

I have a dream; that before the election, Obama will be judged by the content of his character.

from your lips .....

re: #41 cygnus

He sure has a better speaking voice, though. RP was kinda squeeky. Like a talking rat. Ok, I'll stop there and let you draw your own thoughts onward.

So O'Bamma quoted the quotes of Cadillac Deval? Big deal. O'Bamma and Deval are the exact same empty suit, platitude spewing, Big-Liberal Socialists. You can't be accused of plagiarizing if you are quoting your clone.

Speech writer forgot to CHANGE the text.

Considering what he wants to do with taxes and entitlements, is anyone actually suprised he wouldn't steal other things as well?

All I can say is, after this, he has certainly lost my vote.

/do I really need a tag?

re: #42 mama winger

re: #40 cookielady

Either that, or someone will zoom in on his head with a camera and see that little tiny set of numbers. ;-)
/
Actually, I find the mania and the fainting and the glazed yet blazing eyes of his followers to be more than a little creepy. No sarc.

I guess if he suffers a mortal head wound, and then rises up to adulation and applause, we'll know for sure.

only half sarc. Is there a tag for that?

How about '/semi'?
I don't plan on being here when that happens.

There's more lack of originality on Obama's part.
Remember he was playing the savior of women, who happen to be fainting in the front row, on numerous occasions during his campaign speeches?
Well, he's been lifting that one too.

re: #12 JammieWearingFool

Mrs. Clinton is already ripping off the Silky Pony to some extent.

Democrats are so unimaginative.

The lack of a moral core can hinder them a tad.

I just want the one that is easier for the Republicans to beat to get the nomination. The more they beat up each other, the easier it makes it for the general election. I have to say that watching the Clinton machine starting to limp and give out puffs of dark smoke from under the hood is fun after suffering through 1992-2000.

"Oh Mr. Obama! Mr. Obama! Wait, please, Mr. Obama!
You're my swooner, dreamboat, loverboy! May I have
your autograph, Mr. Obama? Oh, thank yoooooouuu, Mr. Obama"

Plagiarism? Obama was just putting some "meaningless" remarks on his blank piece of paper. Perhaps he would be more substantive if he asked questions such as "it would be more appropriate if Mizz Clinton were composing appeals to get out of jail for her past transgressions rather than proof reading empty speeches".

It really will be no big deal except that his opponents will be seen as grasping at straws and taking cheap shots. Sympathy will rest with Obama and the whole matter will probably just improve his poll numbers.

will it be plagiarism when he finally comes right out and states:

Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you.

He's already saying it with different words.

re: #20 Killgore Trout

It's not plagiarism but he certainly borrowed the concept.

The sincerest form of platitudes.

I've been mulling over the idea of visiting b.o.'s church some Sunday morning. Do you think I would have any trouble getting in? I notice that their church membership classes are entitled "Black and Christian".

re: #55 Capt. Queeg

"Oh Mr. Obama! Mr. Obama! Wait, please, Mr. Obama!
You're my swooner, dreamboat, loverboy! May I have
your autograph, Mr. Obama? Oh, thank yoooooouuu, Mr. Obama"

You forgot "Let me have your baby, Mr. Obama!"

Well he needs to tone down his speeches anyway. Too much fainting in the audience.

re: #53 livefreeor die

I just want the one that is easier for the Republicans to beat to get the nomination. The more they beat up each other, the easier it makes it for the general election. I have to say that watching the Clinton machine starting to limp and give out puffs of dark smoke from under the hood is fun after suffering through 1992-2000.

That's why I am voting for Hillary tomorrow.

I can't believe I just said that out loud.

He better be careful with how he encourages the proletariat to rise up and shake off their hackles.

Wait until panties start landing at his feet.....

BFD. A politician borrowed a few sentences from a friend. Whatever.

This episode says much, much more about the Clintons and the sorry state of their inept flailing around for dirt, than it does about Obama.

The Clintons have lost their magic touch. That is the only salient point from this episode.

re: #60 mama winger

I've been mulling over the idea of visiting b.o.'s church some Sunday morning. Do you think I would have any trouble getting in? I notice that their church membership classes are entitled "Black and Christian".

"Black and Christian" sounds to be a bit of a racist membership qualification. Do they have a golf course?

They've been comparing Obamania to the Beatles. More like Tom Jones, to me.

Just out of curiosity, how many churches has Obama or Shrillary made campaign appearences in?

If it were McCain appearing at a church on a campaign stop, I'm sure the media would let us know how backwards/racist/intolerant the mostly white parrish was....

However, appearences in churches by Shrillary, Obama- or going back to '04- Kerry and the Silky Pony are seemingly always protrayed as grass-roots politics at its best and the racial makeup of the parrish is hardly worth mentioning.

re: #65 Capt. Queeg

Wait until panties start landing at his feet.....

Then Billy C is going to be REALLY pissed...

re: #71 buzzsawmonkey

re: #60 mama winger

I've been mulling over the idea of visiting b.o.'s church some Sunday morning. Do you think I would have any trouble getting in? I notice that their church membership classes are entitled "Black and Christian".

The church's website has a video on it of some white woman blathering about how welcoming and "spiritual" it is.

Maybe me and Little will just put that to the test one fine day.

As it gets closer to the convention you can expect more of this. I still haven't decided who the msm is gonna help. But whoever it is, BHO or the Beast, the loser in the msm fight is going to think a visit to the proctologist or gynacologist was a walk in the park.

re: #60 mama winger

I've been mulling over the idea of visiting b.o.'s church some Sunday morning. Do you think I would have any trouble getting in? I notice that their church membership classes are entitled "Black and Christian".

Who gets to sit in the back?

Mama Winger, how about this for "I'm only being half sarcastic."?

~

Or maybe the backwards one:

Or how about minus one:
-/
No, that might indicate NO sarcasm instead of some. Hmmm, going to be thinking about this now.

re: #63 mama winger

re: #53 livefreeor die

I just want the one that is easier for the Republicans to beat to get the nomination. The more they beat up each other, the easier it makes it for the general election. I have to say that watching the Clinton machine starting to limp and give out puffs of dark smoke from under the hood is fun after suffering through 1992-2000.

That's why I am voting for Hillary tomorrow.

I can't believe I just said that out loud.

Desperate times...

re: #76 cookielady

I like the little squiggly thing. That might work.

re: #55 Capt. Queeg

"Oh Mr. Obama! Mr. Obama! Wait, please, Mr. Obama!
You're my swooner, dreamboat, loverboy! May I have
your autograph, Mr. Obama? Oh, thank yoooooouuu, Mr. Obama"

wait until he breaks out into a rousing rendition of Blue Swede Shoes

re: #50 cygnus

re: #42 mama winger

re: #40 cookielady

Either that, or someone will zoom in on his head with a camera and see that little tiny set of numbers. ;-)
/
Actually, I find the mania and the fainting and the glazed yet blazing eyes of his followers to be more than a little creepy. No sarc.

I guess if he suffers a mortal head wound, and then rises up to adulation and applause, we'll know for sure.

only half sarc. Is there a tag for that?

How about '/semi'?
I don't plan on being here when that happens.

Me, neither! Still, he is certainly the picture, isn't he? A man born elsewhere and lived everywhere, says nothing and receives adoration from blindly passionate followers, a Muslim background and a fake Christian current stance... that beast which has two horns as a lamb and speaks as a dragon can't be far off!

re: #64 livefreeor die

He better be careful with how he encourages the proletariat to rise up and shake off their hackles.

the proletariat have hackles?

re: #43 Bloodnok

Judging by Patrick's popularity here in MA I would suggest Obama NOT draw attention to Deval Patrick. Patrick has been the failure we expect Obama to be.

/

Arrgh- granted I was some ways away, but I remember the Boston media- even the sports columnists- fawning over Patrick and how progressive Massachusetts had elected it's first black governor.

Wonder how much the MSM would fawn over Micheal Steele if he gets elected to higher office......oh wait! He doesn't have that precious little 'D' by his name, so he's not the proper kind of minority....

re: #81 Eowyn2

Mine are raised whenever he speaks.

re: #74 pingjockey

As it gets closer to the convention you can expect more of this. I still haven't decided who the msm is gonna help. But whoever it is, BHO or the Beast, the loser in the msm fight is going to think a visit to the proctologist or gynacologist was a walk in the park.

msm will support whichever dem is on the ticket.

naturally.

Here is Obama's Church bulletin from this past Sunday. In it, membership classes are offered. I can't seem to copy it - it's in PDF format - but take a look. It's on page 20.

Black And Christian Membership classes - required to join the church

re: #81 Eowyn2

re: #64 livefreeor die

He better be careful with how he encourages the proletariat to rise up and shake off their hackles.

the proletariat have hackles?

Whoops-sorry-shackles. Long weekend. Freudian slip. Still in shock over France taking an offensive against something.

re: #83 cookielady

re: #81 Eowyn2

Mine are raised whenever he speaks.

you're just being a contrary proletarian

re: #85 mama winger

I guess the link would be helpful, eh?

[Link: www.tucc.org...]

re: #22 Cognito

A bit underwhelming, this.

Those of us who don't care for Obama have better reasons; and if you're one of his followers this won't likely deter you a bit.

I'm with you here, Cogs -- I don't see this as quite the travesty some would like to make it. Obama's ideology is enough for me to oppose him, not something as trivial as a few borrowed speaking points.

re: #86 livefreeor die

re: #81 Eowyn2

re: #64 livefreeor die

He better be careful with how he encourages the proletariat to rise up and shake off their hackles.

the proletariat have hackles?

Whoops-sorry-shackles. Long weekend. Freudian slip. Still in shock over France taking an offensive against something.

I was smiling when I typed it:)
I never use the sarc tag because its too much fun when someone takes me seriously.

re: #1 JammieWearingFool

This is an obamination.

Nice! I think the surprising thing is people are shocked that a man who says nothing, lifts words from others. Pretty words are only that when you don't have a plan to back them up. I know he has policies, but none will help....

No problem! (Wait, did I plagiarize that from someone?)

I'd much rather be a Woman of Steele than an Obama Girl

Didn't Joe Biden's 1988 presidential campaign derail after he was caught using Neil Kinnock's words in the same way?

Guys I just followed some links and ended up reading the accusations from Larry Sinclair about Obama's sex & drug party in '99 -- is this news to everyone, or have I been out of the loop? Or is it not considered reliable info yet? I think my eyes popped out of my head watching that video. Makes Clinton look like a Boy Scout.

Wasn't Hillary's whole "Everyday I get up and think about how I can help people." stolen from Pollyanna?

re: #93 Eowyn2

Kind of mad I can only give you one plus!

re: #18 mama winger

If hope falls in a forest, does anything change?

Rotating title nominee!

He's from the party of (other people's) ideas!

C'mon now..."we hold these truths" "created equal" not a tremendous way throw those words around. I just don't like the folks throwing them around.

re: #96 livefreeor die

Wasn't Hillary's whole "Everyday I get up and think about how I can help people." stolen from Pollyanna?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHA

Ah, Obamanator! Co-opting personal property already?
And the most desired property of all!
Ideas, thoughts and words!
How clever you are not.

Typical MO of the Gramscian Whore, the Islamic Beast, and other assorted Agents of Satan!

All your speeches are belong to weezes!

WLGF dedicates the Obamanable Snowjobman Theme!

re: #34 mama winger

Me too. I can't believe I am actually going to vote for a Clinton - blehhh. A lot of my friends are doing the same thing.

re: #100 chubby vegan

What?...Let me try this again

C'mon now..."we hold these truths" "created equal" Not a whole lot of ways to throw those words around. I just don't like some of the folks throwing them around.

re: #94 dekalb

Didn't Joe Biden's 1988 presidential campaign derail after he was caught using Neil Kinnock's words in the same way?

But Biden did cause people in the press to swoon. Plus, it was hard to avoid the fact that Niel Kinnock was a commie.

re: #102 BabbaZee

Babba! Reading Jonah Goldberg's latest, Liberal Fascism. I had to smile when he mentioned Gramsci, what a great education we get here! Thanks!

re: #104 chubby vegan

Oh, thank you. I was a little worried about you for a second, LOL!

re: #85 mama winger

Here is Obama's Church bulletin from this past Sunday. In it, membership classes are offered. I can't seem to copy it - it's in PDF format - but take a look. It's on page 20.

Black And Christian Membership classes - required to join the church

I don't how many churches I did not return to because of "membership."

Either you are member of the Body of Christ or you are not. If a church is required to accept all who are a part of the Body of Christ, there is no racial, cultural, society discrimination in the church.

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Colossians 3:11
Here there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.

The accuse the LDS of being a cult. What about the exclusion practiced by Obama's church?

re: #108 jcm

I just wish this stuff would get out there.

Patrick told the New York Times that he and Obama freely exchange speech ideas and that he didn't feel like a citation was needed.

re: #108 jcm

re: #85 mama winger

Here is Obama's Church bulletin from this past Sunday. In it, membership classes are offered. I can't seem to copy it - it's in PDF format - but take a look. It's on page 20.

Black And Christian Membership classes - required to join the church

I don't how many churches I did not return to because of "membership."

Either you are member of the Body of Christ or you are not. If a church is required to accept all who are a part of the Body of Christ, there is no racial, cultural, society discrimination in the church.

Galatians 3:28
There is neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, male nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

Colossians 3:11
Here there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.

The accuse the LDS of being a cult. What about the exclusion practiced by Obama's church?

Hey at least we try to let everybody in! I mean its amazing everybody hasn't joined based on the testimony of a squirrelly 19-year-old! ;) ;) ;)

Jake Tapper at ABC:

In a conference call just now the Clinton campaign would not guarantee that Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, has never used someone else's rhetoric without crediting them.

I asked Clinton communications director Howard Wolfson and Rep. Jim McGovern, D-Mass, if they could assure the public that neither Clinton nor McGovern has ever done what Sen. Barack Obama, D-Illinois, did when he used the rhetoric of Gov. Deval Patrick without footnoting him.

They would not.

In fact, Wolfson seemed to say it wouldn't be as big a deal if it were discovered that Clinton had "lifted" such language.

"Sen. Clinton is not running on the strength of her rhetoric," Wolfson said.

Weak (on the part of the Wolfson).

This really doesn't bother me too much. I think a deeper analysis would show that this reflects how much of his campaign is just a show. An act.

Why Fred Thompson could not get very far. He never really seemed into big campaigning. He seemed more interested in just doing the job and not having to go out and sell himself.

Actually Obama and Patrick had the same speech writer, David Axelrod (oy vey!).

http://sweetness-light.com/archive/top-hillary-aid -accuses-obama-of-plagiarism

The news not this supposed plagarism, but that in supplying moving speeches to the Islamist sympathiser Hussein Obama, a Jew is selling out Israel for personal gain.

Spit!

You can say one thing very, very good about Barrack Obama. He may succeed in pushing the Clintons from oligopolizing the presidency.

Obama is a foreign policy imbecile but he in no way has the sheer accumulated baggage the Clintons had at in 1992. In that sense he is a blessing.

Obama's response reminds me of that old Jedi mind trick.

re: #106 coquimbojoe

Babba! Reading Jonah Goldberg's latest, Liberal Fascism. I had to smile when he mentioned Gramsci, what a great education we get here! Thanks!

Ha!
But did he call him a whore?

Maybe he heard it here first... lol!

re: #110 kayatribe

Patrick told the New York Times that he and Obama freely exchange speech ideas and that he didn't feel like a citation was needed.

Shalom Kaya
Long time no speakie

1) Partisan crapola. If a republican lifted something from a speech of his I guaranteeeeeeee you his feeeelings would be significantly altered.

2) I don't care how Patrick says he feels about it . This is how I see it: A candidate for President should be smart enough to get someone to write some new same old bullshit speeches for him, not lazy , elitist and arrogant enough to think he can just steal shit from his comrades uncredited and none of us will notice.

3) is there a link to the NYT thingo?

No one should be surprised. Obama is a total joke, and he is absolutely incapable of saying anything substantive about any issue. The fact that he borrowed from a fellow phony hope and love politician -- Deval Patrick -- should shock no one.

And I know few people will care about this, but being the son of an English teacher it bothered me when Obama said this wasn't "that big of a deal". Every one says this expression, but it is "that big a deal". This really bugs me, especially when someone who is supposed to be so educated uses the phrase.

oligopolizing

Say it ten times fast!

Behold The Grand High Exalted Poobahstress Of Oligopolus!

Sen. Barack Obama said Monday that he probably should have given his friend — the governor of Massachusetts — credit for using his lines over the weekend.

Uhh..yeah, you should have.

He says he really doesn’t think it’s a big deal to use Patrick’s words because they share ideas all the time.

You have got to be kidding me. This standard 101 stuff you learn in Highschool and college. And you are college educated?

Dandy, we got another live one that wants to use the clintonian excuse of, well it all depends on what the word is, is to deflect and distort what really happened.

...and the teflon marches on...

Obama is the “New Coke” candidate.

He preaches change, yet shows no need or reason.

Even Obama’s followers come up empty when asked to name his accomplishments.

This sounds too much like the reasons Coca Cola introduced New Coke.

Look what happened to Coca Cola (I think that New Coke is still available on Yap).

Obama: America needs to not make this mistake.

re: #95 Israel4ever

Guys I just followed some links and ended up reading the accusations from Larry Sinclair about Obama's sex & drug party in '99 -- is this news to everyone, or have I been out of the loop? Or is it not considered reliable info yet? I think my eyes popped out of my head watching that video. Makes Clinton look like a Boy Scout.

The story is breaking now. The MSM was either ignorant, disbelieving or omitting it. Like John Edwards screwing around on his wife while she was having chemo, I bet on the latter.

obama says borrowed lines not a big deal.
well, it's an indication that he's already running out of his own hot air, and having to borrow some from someone else. isn't it a little early in the season for him to be in that predicament?

I admit... I have plagiarized Bill Clinton many times in bars:

"Hey! I like your rack!"

Obama is an empty suit, this is just more proof of that.

One of two things will happen: Hillary will win the nomination ugly and gut the Democrap party in the process, or Obama will win ugly and get crushed in the general election. Either way, McCain wins.

My biggest concern is McCain's buy-in to the Global Warming garbage and his complete lack of any true conservative principles. However, I do think he will be OK on the WoT. In particular, with his temper, there is little chance anyone will mess with the US. And if they do, he will uncork major pain on them -- from 50,000 feet or 6,000 miles. I'm not talking about blowing up a couple tents, either.

re: #127 ploome hineni

Linky re: Obama sex and drug limo party.

Hey, Obama is just following Big Mo's lead. I mean Mo cut and pasted from Judaism and Christianity, got away with and and thrived. So why shouldn't the Obamination do the same? Just waiting for the appointment of his guys to tell us what exactly his words/promises mean?
And, if we don't like it, will he shower us with fatwas?

re: #113 Dave the.....

According to a friend that went to work for Thompson he is just too damn lazy! (Her husbands words, not her's.) That's why he got nowhere.

re: #16 crazytraveler

He needs to try harder if he wants to get to Joe Biden's level.

So here's the question: Granted, he's not writing his own speeches, so do you blame Obama as the mouthpiece or do you blame his speechwriter? I'm just curious.

You blame him. He's wants to be the freaking president. Its words hes speaking as his own. If he's not vetting his own words from his speech writer carefully enough then what makes him qualified to be President. Liberals want to crucify President Bush for intelligence on Iraq that EVERYBODY agreed was the best info yet they'd give a pass to Obama for not vetting a speech that's supposed to be HIS OWN WORDS? (not calling you a liberal crazytraveler :) )

Hillary's new campaign song:

Devil With the Blue Dress On

On CNN's ticker, I noticed that Obama is now claiming that Hillary, too, has borrowed his phrases. This reminds me of a certain group which instantly responds (whenever they're caught doing something nasty) -- "But They do it TOO! !" That's always their claim -- "They do it Too!" Thus making it always morally "ok" -- by their "standards" -- to do whatever they wish, no matter how abhorrent. (Perhaps this also explains "the Abomination's" reliance upon "Hope" -- that's the hope to always be able to find someone worse and point the finger and claim: "They're worse than I am!" Ah, yes, "redemption..." Maybe the Abomination can give us all another Sermon.

If his name was Barry O'Brien he'd be finished the way Joe Biden was after doing this same thing.

Double standard.

Is anybody but me wondering if his entire campaign is lifted from a Tony Robbins video?

Gov. Deval Patrick elected last year in Mass. used another phrase that may sound somewhat similar to many .....

Patrick: "Together We Can"

Obama: "Yes We Can"

Yup, must be co-ink-i-dink !
/

re: #138 Right Brain

lol -- true...a Robbins video...But also Obama is picking up on other "themes". Let's see --

1) There's the Cassius Clay (later Muhammad Ali after revertin' to Islam) motif --that's the "I am the greatest!" Along with a "I am a fighter! Yeah!" as he punches the air. Obama has stated on numerous occasions that he's "a fighter" -- except, of course when it comes to Iraq, etc. -- then, it's cut and run.
2) there's the "I'm Mr. Preacher Man" -- "I offer you hope, salvation and redemption! Just vote for me!" So he presents himself as a new g-d incarnate come back to save us all...or as his wife maintains, just a g-d in progress...he still has some work to do with respect to mastering "putting the butter back into the frig." When he achieves this goal, then he can be deified.
3) There's the "America stinks" routine. This is where he presents "Amerika is Eevil..." It goes over very well with the anti-American crowds at "universities" or those centers of ignorance coupled with narcissism.. Then you get -- "We need Change. Ja. Change for the EEvul Amerikans.." (Sometimes when hearing Obama rattle off all that he figures is "wrong" with Amerika -- that's the Bad Amerika -- you have to wonder, why would he want to be Prez of such a decrepit state, eh? And, then, one remembers, "ah, yes, it's because he wants to so c-c-change Amerika that no one would ever again recognize the country..."
4) There's the constant straw man attacks against his imaginary "opponents" -- "They, my enemies may call me a cockroach -- but I have to tell ya, I-I'm a four-legged insect..."

5) What else? More platitudes and empty phrases about "change"...Nothing substantive...all wind/ all air.

Really? Plagiarism? Really?

So, Hillary has let us know that she will not use any one else's good ideas if they are not hers.
And, I wish Ob/sama would run TV ads against her saying this. "I recognize a good idea when I see it. And, I am not too arrogant to use it. My opponent, Hillary, thinks that using other people's good ideas is bad. Apparently, she only cares about what she has to say."

This politics/plagiarism stuff is BS.
Christ, 90% of the politicians have books ghost written for them. Which is worse in my opinion. But nothing is said about that. So, money can buy you out of a major plagerism charge?
Someone needs to smack the chattering classes around about it.

No one gives a flying F about politicians and plagiarism. I don't care what party they are.

Jesus Mary and Joseph, this isn't 10th grade English class.

Yes we can (plagarize) -- and change (the speech just a bit)

Patrick's speech was just a list of a several quotations with the phrase "Just words." As friends, they bounce ideas off of each other. I don't see what the big deal is. If this is what the Clinton camp has to resort to, they're in big trouble.

re: #132 ploome hineni

Obama's next speech:

"Four days and seven hours ago, fighting on the landing grounds and the beaches, where never have so many owed so much to so few, I came not to bury Hillary, but to praise her, full of sound and fury.

My friends, we have nothing to fear but hope itself, and change. I never met a man I didn't like, although I am a Berliner. I will bear any burden, with one small step for a man, and one giant leap for mankind.

So let us go forth, I can do no other, because I'll be back!"

re: #143 Eri

I don't understand the "if this is what the Clinton camp has to resort to..." this isn't about the "Clinton Camp." Here's the chronology:

1) A Governor of Massachusetts (Deval Patrick) gives a speech. A year and a half ago the Governor said that "words matter: like 'I have a dream' and 'all men are created equal.'" His speech was about how/why "words matter."

2) Hilliary in a speech noted that Obama is all talk (rhetoric) and no action.

3) Obama, in a speech in Wisconsin on Saturday, in presumed reply to Hilliary's criticism used the Governor of Massachusetts' lines: "words matter: like 'I have a dream' and 'all men are created equal'." In other words, Obama lifted the words of the Governor of Massachusetts without giving the Governor due credit.

4) When caught, Obama replied that (not quoting verbatim): "Hilliary does it TOO!" Obama claimed that using statements such as: "it's time to turn the page" or "fired up, ready to go" are Obama's original/ copyrighted material and when Hilliary says, "it's time to turn the page" she is plagiarizing Obama. YEAh! They do it TOO! ! Now, where have I heard that one before?...hmmm...Obama, Presidential material? I think not.

re: #146 J.S.

It'd be one thing if they weren't friends, but like I said, friends share ideas all the time and may have many of the same beliefs and statements because of it. To take a 20 second clip of Obama making a point that words do matter by quoting FDR, JFK, and MLK doesn't really seem like plagiarism to me. I'm sure we could find dozens of people who have made the same argument. What it looks like to me is someone who is really as equally unexperienced as Obama but simply isn't as compelling doing whatever she can to bring him down.

P.S. Look at my avatar. I don't support either of them.

re: #147 Eri

Yep. Also, though, doesn't it sound ridiculous (speaking of alleged plagiarism) even more ludicrous to allege that a trite cliche such as "it's time to turn the page" -- can somehow "be owned" by an Obama? Next he'll be claiming proprietary "rights" on the phrases: "It's time for change!" and "The sky is blue! Roses are Red!" and "The future awaits! Yeah!" that just seems to me an even more stupid allegation (that is, to allege that a cliche is especially "owned" by Obama), then for a blogger to note the similarities (the lifted lines) between the speech of a Mass. governor and Obama...

re: #147 Eri

Oh, forgot to mention -- I notice your Mitt Romney avatar..(too bad he's no longer in the race...)