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Dems in Cleveland, Thread the First

Tue, Feb 26, 2008 at 5:41:27 pm PST

Hey, Barack and Hillary are going to vie for the coveted Democratic nomination again tonight on MSNBC, grabbing for the brass ring, smiling for the cameras, spinning like dervishes, singing Kumbaya and Change and Diplomacy and Change and Health Care and Change! Changey-change change! Sing it with me, won’t you?

Yes, I’m excited, and I know you are too, so here’s a pre-debate thread for the lizard army to warm up your snarky chops...

UPDATE at 2/26/08 5:45:29 pm:

Sen. Daniel Inouye is apologizing to Barack Obama tonight.

HONOLULU - Sen. Daniel Inouye has apologized for suggesting that Sen. Barack Obama’s private high school in Hawaii was elitist.

I have friends who went to school there, and Daniel Inouye was speaking the plain truth about Punahou High School.

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1 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:42:31pm
2 Radical Rafe  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:42:37pm

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

3 VegasRick  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:42:37pm

I am ready for a slugfest!

4 Kaitian868  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:43:03pm

I'm bored. What's on TV tonight?

5 Beach Lover  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:43:34pm

Let the fur fly, Hill...it's your last chance

6 BignJames  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:43:38pm

We need helath care!

7 rappmandu  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:43:41pm

Sanjaya feat. Crying Girl

Live from Cleveland State University!

8 WrathofG-d  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:43:50pm

& where can we watch this?

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

9 VegasRick  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:44:15pm

re: #4 Kaitian868

I'm bored. What's on TV tonight?

The Shrill vs. The obamarama UFC style.

10 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:44:36pm

re: #6 BignJames

and if you can't afford it, "we" will subsidize you............
BHO

PTTCP

11 BignJames  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:44:37pm

Dang, he's fast.

12 rappmandu  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:45:07pm

re: #8 WrathofG-d

Here?

14 m  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:45:53pm

re: #5 Beach Lover

Nice visual! ;-)

15 Beach Lover  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:46:19pm

If she pulls the same crap as last week, you know she has given up. Either that or she's playing nice for some big favors in return from the party...maybe she wants Reid's job?

better watch out dirty Harry

16 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:46:42pm

Great,
Billary will lose another 2 points.

17 Beach Lover  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:47:05pm

re: #14 m

Hey {m}! How ya been?

18 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:47:17pm

All I want to see is the shrillary absolutely lose it on national tv... is that to much to ask for?

19 jopa416  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:47:26pm

Just don't call Barack by his actual name "Barack Hussein Obama" because that idiot John McCain won't stand for it.

Barack does not have to campaign, his opponents shoot themselves in the foot daily.

It is a sad time for republicans & the country. The Carter years will be back with us soon after the election.

20 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:47:31pm
21 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:47:41pm

They better not sit them close together tonight! Fun, fun, fun.......unless its another love fest. Plan B: Futurama on Comedy Channel.

22 troonbop  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:47:42pm

Well, darn, tough choice. TV just started showing that documentary about Motown's Funk Brothers.
About that debate, here's a tip for the hildabeest; stop acting like you're in love with the guy and thinking about voting for him.

23 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:47:49pm

re: #14 m

re: #5 Beach Lover

Nice visual! ;-)

Hey M girl
Hows the family.

24 StinkHammer  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:47:50pm

To be bluntly honest, I'm so fatigued from this ridiculously lengthy election season I really couldn't care less about this Dem-on-Dem shit. Comments here will be more entertaining (and informative, no doubt).

25 MandyManners  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:48:16pm

He's been groomed from an early age.

[Link: www.punahou.edu...]

26 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:48:18pm

Will they talk about today's blackout in FL and the failure to upgrade the energy infrastructure? Oh wait, Congress didn't exactly go out of its way to appropriate money for that or make it easier to build new power plants, did it.

Never mind.

27 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:48:31pm

there will be no applause, comments, favoritism, expressions of preference...for "All Animals are Equal.........some more equal than others...........

28 little boomer  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:48:37pm

"So Barak, where did Rezko get the money he gave to you that you used to buy your house?"

29 geologist  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:49:01pm

i'll bet you two pesos she's a meany tonite. it's her strong suit.

30 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:49:12pm

Good news from, of all places, the LA Times.

McCain would beat Obama and Clinton, poll says

31 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:49:38pm

The peoples they are a wantin a change, its a time for a change, there is a gunna be a change, Change, Change Change............

My only question would be, is this a change thats a cummin, a change for the better or a change for the worser?

32 BignJames  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:49:38pm

re: #26 lawhawk

Bush's fault.

33 VegasRick  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:50:00pm

re: #29 geologist

i'll bet you two pesos she's a meany tonite. it's her strong pants suits.

34 ruddoj  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:50:00pm

I wonder who (of these two) will end up being OUR next President......?

For our great Republic it is scary, sad, outrageous (and Socialiast)---all at the same time.

Hold on to your wallets and your guns, the Democrats are coming!

35 WrathofG-d  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:50:00pm

Acheivement Gap

36 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:50:04pm
37 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:50:07pm

re: #4 Kaitian868

I'm bored. What's on TV tonight?

Tennessee at Vanderbilt, 9 ET.

38 rappmandu  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:50:27pm

GAH!

39 ploome hineni[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:50:56pm
40 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:51:06pm

Think there'll be any knife fights in the audience? After all, from what I understand the Dems are getting really cutting edge these days in interpersonal political debates...

41 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:51:08pm

re: #28 little boomer

"So Barak, where did Rezko get the money he gave to you that you used to buy your house?"


.......and that, folks, was the last we ever heard of lil boomer........

42 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:51:22pm

re: #37 JammieWearingFool

re: #4 Kaitian868

I'm bored. What's on TV tonight?

Tennessee at Vanderbilt, 9 ET.

HA

You think you are bored now?

43 Crimsonfisted  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:51:23pm

re: #26 lawhawk

How about defunding the ACLU and make them pay BACK all the money they have taken? How about defunding Planned Parenthood? PBS? Dept of Education?

That would be a start.

44 Wino  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:51:52pm

It worked! It worked! Obama and Hillary brought change to my house.

I just changed the channel.

45 WrathofG-d  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:52:10pm

Jessie Jackson.....is awesome.

"We need to end racism, unless it is to promote a Black person"

46 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:52:30pm

re: #41 A Kiwi Infidel

So, Hillary, where did you meet Norman Hsu, what did you know, and when did you know that he was a convicted felon and aiding your campaign?

47 jopa416  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:52:38pm

re: #44 Wino

It worked! It worked! Obama and Hillary brought change to my house.

I just changed the channel.

That was truely funny.

48 mitthrawnurdo  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:52:43pm

re: #26 lawhawk

Sorry, can't do that. We need to fight global warming, I mean, "climate change".

49 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:52:45pm

re: #42 ibmkeyboard

re: #37 JammieWearingFool

re: #4 Kaitian868

I'm bored. What's on TV tonight?

Tennessee at Vanderbilt, 9 ET.

HA

You think you are bored now?

The Vols are No. 1.

At least for a couple more hours.

50 Syrah  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:53:01pm

re: #31 A Kiwi Infidel

The peoples they are a wantin a change, its a time for a change, there is a gunna be a change, Change, Change Change............

My only question would be, is this a change thats a cummin, a change for the better or a change for the worser?

It will be pocket change.

Thats all that will be left of our paychecks after the dems win the trifecta in this election.

51 Cartman  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:53:07pm

Shame on you, Sen. Inouye. We must never offend Humanity's Savior In Waiting.

/

52 rappmandu  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:53:12pm

Huma and Bill are heading for their undisclosed locations, just in case.

53 ruddoj  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:53:13pm

If Gore had won in 2000, would we now be electing a Conservative to replace and fix all the Democratic/Socialists problems he would have caused?

Would Obama and Hillary even be on the ticket....?

And I still cannot figure out WHY Rudy and Romney both dropped out of the race.....made no sense at all to leave us with just McCain.

54 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:53:14pm

Hillary's got pants suits that can stand up for themselves.
But she threatened today (or yesterday) to really come armed for bear.
We'll see.

55 JWM  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:54:07pm

Here's one conflict where I can have almost equal loathing for both sides. Like Alien vs Predator. Maybe both monsters can lose.

Oh wait. That was my snarky comment from the Serbia thread.

JWM

56 MandyManners  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:54:11pm

RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!
RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!
RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!
RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!
RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!

I can dream, can't I?

*whimper*

57 Crimsonfisted  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:54:16pm

I never thought I would be rooting for Hillary. Better the devil you know.

58 StinkHammer  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:54:18pm

re: #48 mitthrawnurdo

re: #26 lawhawk

Sorry, can't do that. We need to fight global warming, I mean, "climate change".

Waitaminnit -- I thought change was good.

Getting some conflicting messages, here....

59 WrathofG-d  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:54:53pm

re: #53 ruddoj

Deal made between the Bush Family (shadowy overlords) and McCain during the 2000 election. Its all fixed man.

60 Cartman  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:54:53pm

All of this Obamulation is really starting to chap my ass.

61 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:55:08pm

re: #25 MandyManners

He's been groomed from an early age.

[Link: www.punahou.edu...]

Punahou is a very "elite" and expensive private school.
'Curious how a single mom paid for BHO's tuition........
not that it matters...ahem........er.....oh, never mind........

62 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:55:14pm

re: #46 lawhawk

re: #41 A Kiwi Infidel

So, Hillary, where did you meet Norman Hsu, what did you know, and when did you know that he was a convicted felon and aiding your campaign?


.......and that, folks, was da lawhawk with his deathwish question......

63 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:55:22pm

Would it be bad if someone took Barack Hussien's image and superimposed it on Paul Atriedes in the big budget 1980's version of Dune?

"His name has-"
"no-no-brother not his first or middle name."
"oh yes, understandable my brother- his last name has become a killing word..."

64 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:55:38pm

re: #60 Cartman

All of this Obamulation is really starting to chap my ass.

LO.

65 jaunte  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:55:42pm

re: #60 Cartman

Try Obalma!

66 GeeWiz  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:55:43pm

re: #49 JammieWearingFool

The Vols are No. 1.

Just the men, not the women.

/UConn WCBB fan

67 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:55:44pm
68 Palandine  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:55:47pm

I can't watch Olbermann until the debate comes on, I just can't, so until it comes on, I've been watching a show on cable about Jonestown (which I saw coverage on on tv when I was 7). Ah, the 70s, here we come again.

69 rappmandu  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:55:54pm

Snarky chops, the other white meat.

70 StinkHammer  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:56:25pm

re: #53 ruddoj

And I still cannot figure out WHY Rudy and Romney both dropped out of the race....

The fact that they couldn't garner the delegate numbers might've had something to do with it....

71 WrathofG-d  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:56:30pm

re: #68 Palandine

you can watch here.

72 Shaky Louie  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:56:34pm

re: #22 troonbop
Tough choice!
I'd go w/Motown's Funk Brothers.
/You know you want to

73 Charles  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:57:03pm

Ugh. I just turned on MSNBC and Olbermann is retching out verbiage.

74 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:57:11pm

Looks like MSNBC is hosting the debate. Yuck, Chris Matthews wit in the post debate wrap up......NOT.

75 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:57:15pm

re: #53 ruddoj

They dropped because the press ignored them and/or gave them negative press in pursuit of getting McCain into the Republican nomination so he can be later beaten by their choice Dem... not saying the MSM is biased, I'm just sayin' is all...

76 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:57:22pm

re: #48 mitthrawnurdo

re: #26 lawhawk

Sorry, can't do that. We need to fight global warming, I mean, "climate change".

Last time I checked, the climate change was 7 inches of white stuff outside my house, and we could use some global warming here the past few days since our heat in the house was on the fritz (damned busted pressure gauge), and more cold weather for the rest of the week.

Ever notice how cold weather gets dismissed as simply weather, but a warm spell is trumpeted as global warming. /but you already knew that!

77 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:57:25pm
78 WrathofG-d  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:57:53pm
79 Palandine  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:58:01pm

re: #21 snowcrash

They better not sit them close together tonight! Fun, fun, fun.......unless its another love fest. Plan B: Futurama on Comedy Channel.

All Glory To The Hypnotoad.

Obama went to an elitist private high school? I thought he came from "humble roots, the son of a teenage single mother."
//A democrat making up his background? I am disillusioned.

80 hayseed  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:58:02pm

you can find me in my wig wam I'll be beating on my tom tom, pull out a pipe and smoke some.......a song for Babbazee Indian outlaw

81 Xango Annie  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:58:14pm

My best friend taught there in the 1960's..and it was definately considered an elite school then..

82 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:58:34pm

re: #73 Charles

Ugh. I just turned on MSNBC and Olbermann is retching out verbiage.

Palate cleanser.

And just so that the ladies aren't left out, here's some for you as well.

83 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:58:46pm

For one brief microsecond I thought the text said "countdown to defeat" and not "to debate"...

84 MandyManners  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:59:05pm

re: #61 IslandLibertarian

re: #25 MandyManners


He's been groomed from an early age.

[Link: www.punahou.edu...]


Punahou is a very "elite" and expensive private school.
'Curious how a single mom paid for BHO's tuition........
not that it matters...ahem........er.....oh, never mind........

Good question.

85 Ma Sands  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:59:20pm

re: #56 MandyManners

RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!

I can dream, can't I?

*whimper*


Somebody who does what you did to that guy on the dock, is capable of whimpering? ? ?


/ :)

86 A Kiwi Infidel  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:59:27pm

verbiage verbiage cerbiage cerniage carniage charnage chanrage chanage change

87 Charles  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:59:39pm

OK, here we go. At Daily Kos, they're having what passes for a religious experience in that crowd.

88 StinkHammer  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:59:45pm

re: #59 WrathofG-d

re: #53 ruddoj

Deal made between the Bush Family (shadowy overlords) and McCain during the 2000 election. Its all fixed man.

Wait, you don't actually expect Bush to step down next year, do you? I mean, he's imposed a fascistic gov't complete with the totalitarian trimmings so he can be Dictator for life! Where have you been?

89 Sarge1984  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 5:59:57pm

Pre-game show, and he just asked about "drinking game phrases"!

Sweet! Change! Hope!

Drink!

90 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:00:01pm

drinking game with soft drinks or change to charity?
These guys don't have a clue...

91 Crimsonfisted  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:00:24pm

re: #82 lawhawkI prefer Mandy Manner's FDNY5.

Sigh.

92 GeeWiz  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:00:41pm

re: #73 Charles

I refuse to watch that channel, regardless of what they choose to program. I will monitor this thread for the meat of the matter and if anything important happens, methinks I shall see it endlessly repeated in the media.

93 coquimbojoe  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:00:42pm

BBL lizards! Its been fun.

94 JWM  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:00:55pm

They need to do a steel cage debate, complete with folding chairs. It works for pro wrestling.
Hilldebeast off the top rope!
OH NO suplex by the Obaminator-
Hidebeast OOOH elbow to the throat...

JWM

95 braddock  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:01:01pm

I heard Obama was so nervous before this debate that he switched from Marlboro Lights to Reds.

96 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:01:45pm

re: #62 A Kiwi Infidel

re: #46 lawhawk

re: #41 A Kiwi Infidel

So, Hillary, where did you meet Norman Hsu, what did you know, and when did you know that he was a convicted felon and aiding your campaign?


.......and that, folks, was da lawhawk with his deathwish question......

If that's the case, then I've had a deathwish for quite some time now. They must have a backlog at deathwishgranted.com

97 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:02:03pm

Arms reach!

98 MandyManners  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:02:08pm

re: #85 Ma Sands

re: #56 MandyManners


RUDY! RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!

I can dream, can't I?

*whimper*


Somebody who does what you did to that guy on the dock, is capable of whimpering? ? ?


/ :)

What can I say? I'm multifaceted.

99 m  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:02:09pm

{Beach Lover}! I'm great girl! Hope you are!

{Ibmkeyboard}! Hey handsome! E-me please!

100 Killian Bundy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:02:15pm

Damn, I'm not drinking tonight.

/this is going to be ugly sober

101 Ma Sands  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:02:29pm

re: #98 MandyManners

Ha! :)

102 MandyManners  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:02:32pm

re: #87 Charles

OK, here we go. At Daily Kos, they're having what passes for a religious experience in that crowd.

Is everyone's leg tingling?

103 Cartman  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:02:38pm

re: #87 Charles

OK, here we go. At Daily Kos, they're having what passes for a religious experience in that crowd.

It's as close as they'll ever come...

104 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:02:49pm

no rules!
two go in one come out!

105 Charles  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:02:56pm

re: #100 Killian Bundy

Damn, I'm not drinking tonight.

/this is going to be ugly sober

I'm just popping the cork on a Chimay Ale. It's the only way.

106 Sarge1984  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:03:02pm

Ooooooh! No rules! It is a cage match!

107 rappmandu  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:03:05pm

The Rulz R There R No Rulz!

108 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:03:34pm

re: #87 Charles

OK, here we go. At Daily Kos, they're having what passes for a religious experience in that crowd.

I look for them to start an Obama Wave.

Women passing out...... etc. etc..

109 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:03:42pm

Celebrity Death Match......only not claymation.

110 rappmandu  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:03:55pm

Flashback!

111 Killian Bundy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:04:02pm

First rule of debate club, there are no rules.

/c'mon Hillary, kick him in the nuts!

112 Charles  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:04:05pm

Ooh, MSNBC is starting with a montage of unflattering Hillary clips.

113 jaunte  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:04:09pm

Waterbottle ready...

114 tank22  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:04:34pm

ass kickin time

115 Lobosan5  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:04:39pm

o snarky chops
o snarky chops
the Dems are off to DC

o snarky chops
o snarky chops
don't make the popcorn greasy

they'll point & stare
& smile & mock...
a bitch-slap aiming
for a crotch

O snarky chops
O snarky chops
I'm turnin' off the TV

sung to 'O Tannenbaum'

116 StinkHammer  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:04:39pm

re: #82 lawhawk

re: #73 Charles


Ugh. I just turned on MSNBC and Olbermann is retching out verbiage.

Palate cleanser.

And just so that the ladies aren't left out, here's some for you as well.

I still say, "Elisha Cuthbert for president."

117 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:04:41pm

There are no other kind!

118 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:04:44pm

re: #94 JWM

They need to do a steel cage debate, complete with folding chairs. It works for pro wrestling.
Hilldebeast off the top rope!
OH NO suplex by the Obaminator-
Hidebeast OOOH elbow to the throat...

JWM

it would turn into a Nacho Libra.

119 J.S.  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:04:45pm

I thought the Obamnation was another "Lincoln", growing up in the equivalent of a log cabin. Guess that's just another one of the Obamanation's claims...Chalk it up with all the others. (quite a list now). But, of course, the discrepancies will never, ever be reported by the MSM...it'll all be hushed up, don't want to offend the Obama...instead, we must apologize. Now there's another growing list -- how many have offered their abject apologies for imaginary insults -- such as mentioning Obama's middle name? a middle name which he himself refused to change and said he's proud of it. But, we, of course, being the servile ones cannot ever say "the name" without expressing apologies.

120 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:04:47pm

No substantive differences, Hillary?

121 MandyManners  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:04:50pm

re: #82 lawhawk

re: #73 Charles


Ugh. I just turned on MSNBC and Olbermann is retching out verbiage.

Palate cleanser.

And just so that the ladies aren't left out, here's some for you as well.

Who is this "Matthew Fox" and why have I not heard of him before? You could bounce a bowling ball off that tummy.

122 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:04:51pm

Remembeer that when they blink they're lying...

123 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:04:56pm
124 Francisco D'anconia  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:05:10pm

a need to be drunk to watch this

125 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:05:17pm

She's full of ibogaine, like Ed Muskey, all the signs are there.
/hst

126 Sarge1984  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:05:27pm

If this opening remark is setting the tone, this could be really entertaining!

127 jaunte  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:05:36pm

Drinking game:
If anyone faints tonight, I'm drinking the rest of the bottle.

128 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:05:46pm

re: #124 Francisco D'anconia

I just warmed myself up with a bottle of Schnapps.

129 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:05:52pm

re: #102 MandyManners

re: #87 Charles

OK, here we go. At Daily Kos, they're having what passes for a religious experience in that crowd.

Is everyone's leg tingling?

got a cramp.

lo

130 MacGregor  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:05:58pm
131 Beach Lover  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:05:58pm

she's disturbed by Obama's tactics? you'd a thought that was nothin compared to what she's married to!

132 Sarge1984  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:06:06pm

re: #122 anotherindyfilmguy

Remembeer that when they blink they're lying...

Hello, Dr. Freud!

Drink!

133 GeeWiz  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:06:07pm

re: #116 StinkHammer

OOOHHHH! I just fell in love again!

134 Shaky Louie  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:06:08pm

Health care!

135 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:06:18pm

UGh, I was overserved last night and I'm not sure I can muster the required drinking to watch.

136 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:06:22pm

re: #121 MandyManners

re: #82 lawhawk

re: #73 Charles


Ugh. I just turned on MSNBC and Olbermann is retching out verbiage.


Palate cleanser. And just so that the ladies aren't left out, here's some for you as well.

Who is this "Matthew Fox" and why have I not heard of him before? You could bounce a bowling ball off that tummy.

Fox was banned by Google for covering the UN unflatteringly.
They've already unbanned him in their news search feature.

137 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:06:22pm
138 mikeymom  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:06:23pm

matthey fox- hottie from "lost" and "party of five"

139 Francisco D'anconia  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:06:28pm

A clinton talking about accurate information? drink

140 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:06:41pm

I think it's going to be harder for Hillary to say President Obama than it will be for me.

141 hayseed  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:06:48pm

re: #105 Charles

had to look that one up.lol.....it was Bookers for me this evening

142 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:06:55pm
143 profitsbeard  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:07:01pm

I was hoping Hillary would show up wearing a tasteful 1940's style Lana Turner-ish little white turban (as seen in "The Postman Always Rings Twice") just to throw Obama off his game.

I might have voted for her it she had shown that much panache.

Instead, it looks like Animatronics with low batteries.

144 WrathofG-d  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:07:02pm

What is more of a right then the right to food?

Do we really want to take food away from hungry poor people?

I didn't think so, Universal Foodcare now!

145 rappmandu  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:07:06pm

Wardrobe Chenge!

146 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:07:07pm

The Photo....the photo....blaming Cinton campaign! Of course she denies.

147 Ojoe  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:07:08pm

In Lincoln's time, presidential candidates refrained from direct campaigning as unseemly.

They relied on their party, and that people could go see wha they had said before they were candidates.


Too bad that's not the way it is today.

148 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:07:10pm

Heh.

149 secsailor  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:07:17pm

Candidates that go over their allotted amount will hear this sound.

150 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:07:18pm

when will she pull out the k-bar and dive at him?

151 WrathofG-d  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:07:22pm

wow attacking Clinton.
MSMNBC has an agenda maybe?

152 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:07:33pm

She has no personal knowledge of where the pic came from.....sure, plausable deniablity.

153 Killian Bundy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:07:35pm
154 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:07:36pm
155 Francisco D'anconia  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:07:39pm

re: #144 WrathofG-d


well said

156 Charles  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:07:51pm

He skated right over the photo.

157 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:07:56pm

re: #124 Francisco D'anconia

a I need to be a drunk to help me watch this

158 mikeymom  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:08:24pm

i'm lazy-anyone have a link- dont get msnbc here

159 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:08:33pm

I need insurance against boredom.

160 braddock  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:08:37pm

This is weak! I want some action!

161 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:08:40pm

He glossed over the photo really quickly! Said he believes her and moved on to health insurance. Must really be seen as damaging.

162 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:08:40pm

starting out as love-fest...

163 Sarge1984  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:08:40pm

Lefty just wants free stuff?

164 MandyManners  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:08:41pm

re: #136 mean Gene

How could anyone ban that?!

165 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:08:44pm

re: #158 mikeymom

i'm lazy-anyone have a link- dont get msnbc here

You are one of the lucky few in America!

166 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:08:45pm

re: #156 Charles

I think it's a good move from Obama. Clinton comes off looking very bad on this. It backfired.

167 rappmandu  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:08:48pm

Fashion!

168 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:08:57pm
169 AriZoney  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:08:59pm

Does that check mark in the decision 08 look like a syringe to anyone else?

170 StinkHammer  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:09:05pm

re: #119 J.S.

I thought the Obamnation was another "Lincoln", growing up in the equivalent of a log cabin.

No, it was a manger.

171 Beach Lover  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:09:07pm

massatoochets?

172 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:09:09pm

Did Barak walk on water yet?

173 Francisco D'anconia  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:09:09pm

at least most of you dont have to watch Kucinich adds during commercials as we in ohio do.

174 m  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:09:11pm

re: #135 Killgore Trout
Overserved? I heard you threatened the bartender!

re: #142 taxfreekiller
~okay, I'm not picturing either one of them in a thong!

175 pink freud  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:09:24pm

My mother used to look at me that way.

176 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:09:36pm

He is whining now!

177 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:09:46pm

attacking Clinton with reverse double reverse you did it firsts and we're not the whiners...

178 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:09:54pm

re: #176 snowcrash

He is whining now!

...and she is bitching.

179 jaunte  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:09:55pm

Michelle Malkin is betting on eight cackles tonight. I say we won't hear any.

180 mikeymom  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:10:01pm

well, we could get it if cheapo hubby paid extra

181 Charles  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:10:10pm

MSNBC really ambushed Hillary tonight.

And I'm no Hillary fan. But that was a complete sandbag.

182 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:10:13pm

re: #174 m


Overserved? I heard you threatened the bartender!


The fact remains. Let's not point fingers here.

183 Francisco D'anconia  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:10:15pm

socialized medicine for all.

184 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:10:19pm

re: #172 SecretInternetDoucheBag

Did Barak walk on water yet?

not yet but he's gonna try and turn shrillary into whine later...

185 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:10:27pm

re: #181 Charles

MSNBC really ambushed Hillary tonight.

And I'm no Hillary fan. But that was a complete sandbag.

So they are officially treating her like a Republican?

186 Sarge1984  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:10:37pm

Cherry pickin'? Did I hear her right?

187 WrathofG-d  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:10:42pm

re: #181 Charles


You don't F--- with the JesusObama!

188 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:10:43pm

she's wonking.

Nobody cares.

189 Killian Bundy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:10:44pm

I know you are but what am I?

/rubbber and glue, whatever your campaign does bounces off me and sticks to you!

190 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:10:45pm

hit her with Nafta,
hit her with Nafta.

191 jopa416  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:11:08pm

Her eyebrows look funny. Is it just me?

192 Palandine  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:11:12pm

Okay, help me out on this.

Is 47 million people are uninsured (a percentage which seems awfully high), that's about 15% of our population. Why is this issue such a huge one for Democrats? And why can't they just come up with a plan for insuring JUST the uninsured, instead of taking all our rights away?
//I know, I know, it's the socialism stupid...

193 meMarc  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:11:13pm

Hillary is melting! She's melting!

194 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:11:15pm

I hope healthcare isn't the drinking word or we'll all be drunk in 15 minutes.

195 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:11:18pm

Harry Truman! Drink - 50 yo scotch.

196 Beach Lover  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:11:20pm

like, maybe , the 15 million uh, illegial immigrants to the emergency room?

197 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:11:22pm
198 WrathofG-d  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:11:22pm

...free foodcare for all.....universal foodcare NOW!

/socialism one tiny step at a time.

199 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:11:24pm
200 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:11:31pm

I thought core Democratic values meant "we rig elections"... but then again I live in PA...

201 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:11:33pm

So she likes Truman...does than mean she supports the use of nuclear weapons against our enemies?

202 Francisco D'anconia  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:11:36pm

Obama is like the republicans! drink

203 irongrampa  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:11:39pm

Never mind the debate, I'm having too much fun reading the comments.

204 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:11:41pm

So far she is dominating the conversation.....she knows facts thats for sure.

205 braddock  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:11:41pm

Hillary is bumbling and stumbling.

206 m  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:11:56pm
207 meMarc  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:12:02pm

re: #192 Palandine

Okay, help me out on this.

Is 47 million people are uninsured (a percentage which seems awfully high), that's about 15% of our population. Why is this issue such a huge one for Democrats? And why can't they just come up with a plan for insuring JUST the uninsured, instead of taking all our rights away?
//I know, I know, it's the socialism stupid...

Stop making sense. This is a debate, damn it.

208 beachkatie  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:12:08pm

Another love fest......

209 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:12:19pm

re: #203 irongrampa

Never mind the debate, I'm having too much fun reading the comments.

I second that!

210 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:12:20pm

re: #201 Jetpilot1101

hhhhmmmmmmm........

211 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:12:34pm

They spent half the last debate fighting over socialized healthcare.

yawn

212 Charles  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:12:39pm

She's giving him the dimpled smirk.

213 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:12:43pm

Yawn.

214 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:12:45pm

The fight centers around who's the bigger socialist? Huh, interesting tactic.

215 AriZoney  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:12:47pm

The federal government has more resources for universal health care than a single state...

That's a very fancy way of saying the fed has more of our money to spend than the state, right?

216 mitthrawnurdo  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:12:52pm

re: #116 StinkHammer

Unfortunately, like most actresses, she's probably a moonbat.

But it's interesting what people will say about other people that have pretty flesh at "strategic areas".

217 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:13:01pm

Obama's plan reduces costs? What fuckin costs?

218 WrathofG-d  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:13:01pm

re: #192 Palandine


What we really need is free Foodcare. If not, then there will be people starving all over the Country. Tiny babies going to sleep at night hungry! Is this what America stands for? NO! We need ensure the Civil Right of Universal Food...anyone that wants Foodcare should be able to obtain it....

219 Sarge1984  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:13:05pm

re: #212 Charles

NO! Not the dimpled smirk! Anything but that!

220 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:13:08pm

Herself looks well 2nite.

And Barack still can't say Massachusetts.

221 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:13:13pm

Is anyone dumb enough to drink every time they say change?

222 saberry0530  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:13:20pm

re: #212 Charles

She's giving him the dimpled smirk.

NOT THE DIMPLED SMIRK. How can anyone take that abuse....

223 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:13:21pm

Obama uses so many words to answer a question I forget what the question was!

224 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:13:22pm

re: #191 jopa416

Her eyebrows look funny. Is it just me?

When you take hair at the temples and tightly braid it to the back and twist the two sides (a sudden face-lift) you draw up the eyes, eyebrows cheeks and mouth.
She does this every debate.

225 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:13:31pm

Tax the poor!

226 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:13:33pm

I like how they each look each over while waiting to respond...
Cthulhu says yum-yum...

227 rappmandu  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:13:35pm

Mandate!

228 Francisco D'anconia  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:13:38pm

watch, dems will be sending people to jail soon for not having healthcare (they'll get it there).

229 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:13:45pm

re: #212 Charles

She's giving him the dimpled smirk.

Wasn't that one Sherlock Holmes' last cases?

230 lawhawk  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:13:48pm

Well, Hillary has to go for broke tonite, or else it will be over for her. It could still be over for her, but if she appears to hold back, it's over.

She literally has to be flawless tonight. Mortal Kombat flawless.

231 Sarge1984  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:14:00pm

Mandate!

Drink!

232 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:14:02pm

Healthcare and mandate are the drinking words tonight...I'm hammered.

233 jaunte  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:14:05pm

re: #221 SecretInternetDoucheBag

*pauses with glass at lips*

234 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:14:05pm

the children

235 AriZoney  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:14:09pm

Hillary isn't letting any new questions get asked... nice anti-sandbag tactic.

236 WrathofG-d  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:14:16pm

re: #225 Killgore Trout

Um dude...that's not a bad idea....they ARE the ones that actually use the services provided.

237 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:14:18pm

This is too important!

238 Charles  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:14:27pm

I wonder how many hours they spent rehearsing with doubles of each other?

239 Palandine  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:14:31pm

re: #218 WrathofG-d

re: #192 Palandine


What we really need is free Foodcare. If not, then there will be people starving all over the Country. Tiny babies going to sleep at night hungry! Is this what America stands for? NO! We need ensure the Civil Right of Universal Food...anyone that wants Foodcare should be able to obtain it....

And free guncare. It's in the constitution, people!
/Righty just wants Hello Kitty AR-15

240 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:14:35pm

She will not surrender a point tonight. Dog with a bone over universal health care.

241 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:14:37pm

she's talking about man dates something she's not all that... oh wait-mandates... never mind...

242 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:14:37pm

re: #232 Jetpilot1101

Healthcare and mandate are the drinking words tonight...I'm hammered.

Uh you want me to call 911 now or in 30 minutes?

243 Francisco D'anconia  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:14:40pm

FDR and LBJ mentioned in the name sentence! finish your drink.

244 mikeymom  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:14:50pm

man, mean gene, im gonna try that facelift thingy!

245 saberry0530  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:14:56pm

re: #221 SecretInternetDoucheBag

Is anyone dumb rich enough to drink every time they say change?

Had to modify that for ya.

246 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:14:56pm

Blah, blah, blah...

247 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:15:05pm

re: #238 Charles

I wonder how many hours they spent rehearsing with doubles of each other?

Who could play the doubles?

248 WrathofG-d  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:15:07pm

Everytime they say "Healthcare" just insert the word "food" & see where we are going with this.

S O C I A L I S M !

249 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:15:08pm

re: #238 Charles

I wonder how many hours they spent rehearsing with doubles of each other?

I need a double right now.

250 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:15:09pm

neither of your fricken plans are getting passed--move on

251 secsailor  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:15:13pm

Hillary is on the attack tonight! I love it when she drops the mask. It's always followed by a drop in the polls...

252 Palandine  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:15:15pm

re: #221 SecretInternetDoucheBag

Is anyone dumb enough to drink every time they say change?

Nah, tonight's word is "mandate," at least so far.

253 solomonpanting  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:15:25pm

Change,
M'Bama's got me locked up in Change
And it's not the kind that you'll want to price
Whoa, these winds of Change got a hold on me, yeah

254 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:15:27pm

re: #244 mikeymom

man, mean gene, im gonna try that facelift thingy!

It's a Hollywood non-secret out here.

255 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:15:28pm

re: #242 SecretInternetDoucheBag

re: #232 Jetpilot1101


Healthcare and mandate are the drinking words tonight...I'm hammered.

Uh you want me to call 911 now or in 30 minutes?

30 minutes will be too late. And I have to fly tomorrow which means I have to quit drinking quick.

256 Shaky Louie  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:15:35pm

You WILL pay for "free" health care!

257 Ojoe  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:15:37pm

re: #178 Jetpilot1101

Whining and bitching.

Great.

258 hayseed  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:15:46pm

kill your tv.....I'm listening to Camel

259 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:15:50pm

oh you moderators, just shut up and let them argue...

260 meMarc  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:15:50pm

re: #238 Charles

I wonder how many hours they spent rehearsing with doubles of each other?

Hillary double. Now there's a job description.

261 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:16:00pm

re: #212 Charles

She's giving him the dimpled smirk.

my brother did that to me when he finished his homework first.

/Mother always loved him more than me.

262 Francisco D'anconia  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:16:09pm

re: #253 solomonpanting

sullying a beatles tune, for shame.

263 rappmandu  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:16:10pm

Brian pulls the plug on Mandate!

264 Charles  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:16:17pm

They're pretending to care a whole lot about health care so they can avoid discussing the other gigantic subjects they should care about, but would rather deny.

265 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:16:23pm

re: #256 Shaky Louie

You WILL pay for "free" health care!

Hahahhahahahahahha. Yeah or you will get fined.

266 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:16:30pm

I think they should put on boxing gloves and settle it man to man.

267 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:16:33pm

re: #260 meMarc

re: #238 Charles


I wonder how many hours they spent rehearsing with doubles of each other?

Hillary double. Now there's a job description.

A Double Hillary...now what would go into that drink?

268 mikeymom  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:16:36pm

but- i have short hair? how do i do it?

269 WrathofG-d  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:16:45pm

HOW?

270 Beach Lover  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:16:50pm

she's mesmerized by his ear hair

271 BignJames  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:16:53pm

re: #218 WrathofG-d


Let them eat....tofu.

272 saberry0530  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:16:55pm

re: #266 NJDhockeyfan

I think they should put on boxing gloves and settle it man to man.

I got five on the Hildebeast.

273 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:16:56pm

re: #223 snowcrash

Obama uses so many words to answer a question I forget what the question was!

dazzle with footwork.....baffle with bullshit............

274 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:16:56pm

Their faux attention to health-care makes me sick.

275 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:16:57pm

re: #264 Charles

They're pretending to care a whole lot about health care so they can avoid discussing the other gigantic subjects they should care about. But would rather deny.


You're probably right.
How long is this debate?

276 AriZoney  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:16:59pm

I say Your universal healthcare plan GOES TOO FAR

and I say that your Universal healthcare plan DOESN'T GOT TOO FAR ENOUGH!

277 Francisco D'anconia  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:17:00pm

re: #266 NJDhockeyfan

hillary would win, she has bigger balls.

278 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:17:02pm

Does anyone really think socialized medicine will ever pass? Even with a Democratic congress there will be enough defectors and Republicans to block it. Am I wrong here?

279 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:17:04pm

The moderator should ask them how they feel about Cuba's illustrious healthcare system.

280 jaunte  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:17:06pm

re: #267 Jetpilot1101

Bitters, lots of bitters.

281 Sarge1984  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:17:07pm

re: #264 Charles

Naaah. It's just a hot button for them both, and the "moderators" are capitalizing on it.

282 livefreeor die  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:17:08pm

re: #267 Jetpilot1101

re: #260 meMarc

re: #238 Charles


I wonder how many hours they spent rehearsing with doubles of each other?


Hillary double. Now there's a job description.

A Double Hillary...now what would go into that drink?

Something really, really sour to start.

283 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:17:11pm

I can only hope that the next 40 odd minutes to hour 40ish isn't all about health care...

284 MacGregor  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:17:17pm

re: #212 Charles

She's giving him the dimpled smirk.


Did they miss a spot with the botox?

285 MandyManners  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:17:21pm

I'm watching Bruce Willis and Sarah Jessica Parker.

286 mikeymom  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:17:28pm

i need a linky -pls? grey goose dirty martini to the winner

287 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:17:30pm

Get the hook, pull Hildabeast off stage left.

288 Jeff MacMillan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:17:34pm

THIS ISN't A PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE!

This is a "Health Care" debate. 90 minutes worth of arguing whose plan sounds like a bigger mess of mandates and heaping federal obligations and regulations and Price Controls...enough to make your head spin..

289 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:17:36pm

oh yes-oh yes!

290 rappmandu  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:17:40pm

Topic Change! STAT

291 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:17:41pm

re: #278 Killgore Trout

Does anyone really think socialized medicine will ever pass? Even with a Democratic congress there will be enough defectors and Republicans to block it. Am I wrong here?

Hope not

292 Jim in Virginia  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:17:43pm

re: #218 WrathofG-d Free Foodcare: spam for everyone, right? With SOS for dessert?
Except it will be HEALTHY spam.

293 RTLM  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:17:44pm

SCREW HEALTH CARE !

294 Ojoe  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:17:44pm

re: #197 taxfreekiller

When the power of love overcomes the love of power, then the world will know peace.

— Jimi Hendrix

295 GoJeepGo  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:17:55pm

re: #260 meMarc

re: #238 Charles

I wonder how many hours they spent rehearsing with doubles of each other?

Hillary double. Now there's a job description.

I think this would be a good candidate for the job

296 jopa416  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:03pm

The moderators are completely useless in this debate. They should simply walk off the stage and let the Hildabeast & the Obamination go at it.

297 Sarge1984  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:04pm

What is with these idoits (ee-dwahs) and insurance? What is that going to do to the legitimate premiums of the rest of us?

298 earthwirm  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:06pm

I DON'T WANT UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE.

299 braddock  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:07pm

Hillary just said young people are idiots.

300 Killian Bundy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:12pm

. . . two hours later

/she should have sent Bill out there

301 Charles  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:13pm

re: #278 Killgore Trout

Does anyone really think socialized medicine will ever pass? Even with a Democratic congress there will be enough defectors and Republicans to block it. Am I wrong here?

Not wrong. It's a national red herring.

302 Palandine  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:15pm

To quote Wrath's avatar in Holy Grail:

Get ON with it!

Haile H. Selassie, this is dull

303 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:18pm

NAFTA!

304 MacGregor  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:20pm

re: #264 Charles

They're pretending to care a whole lot about health care so they can avoid discussing the other gigantic subjects they should care about, but would rather deny.

Like Global Warming?

305 solomonpanting  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:23pm

re: #275 mean Gene


How long is this debate?


From ear to eternity.

306 Thanos  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:23pm

Hillary out of control,

look out moderators

307 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:24pm

Sandbag number 2...NAFTA

308 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:24pm

Well, Barack's voice is easier on the ears.

309 AriZoney  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:27pm

re: #237 itellu3times

It's STILL too important.

Moving on to NAFTA...

310 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:32pm

NAFTA

311 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:33pm

re: #296 jopa416

The moderators are completely useless in this debate. They should simply walk off the stage and let the Hildabeast & the Obamination go at it.

Steel cage?

312 StinkHammer  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:35pm

re: #192 Palandine

Is 47 million people are uninsured (a percentage which seems awfully high), that's about 15% of our population.

Of course it's high because it's an inflated number, taken as an aggragate snapshot of all the people who at sometime during the year were without health insurance, NOT a tally of the chronically uninsured.

313 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:37pm

Is there anything more important than universal heathcare? - Hillary

314 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:46pm
315 jopa416  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:48pm

OH Boo Hoo Hillary !

316 Palandine  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:57pm

Bitchin' about getting the first question. Oy.

317 Sarge1984  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:58pm

Ha! Whining about getting the first question!

318 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:59pm

re: #291 Nevergiveup

I think they know it will never happen, it appeases the socialist base but isn't a realistic danger of ever passing.

319 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:18:59pm

shrillary gets first boos!

320 Macker  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:19:00pm

re: #239 Palandine

How's about a Hello Kitty AK-47?

321 Jfundie  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:19:02pm

Crybaby.

322 braddock  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:19:07pm

Hillary just lost it! WTF!

323 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:19:17pm

NAFTA she is being sandbagged and her whining proves she knows it.

324 rappmandu  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:19:20pm

CRY! It's.Just.Not.Fair.

325 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:19:22pm

is it bad when your debate references SNL?

326 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:19:23pm

She wasted a minute carping about getting the ? first.

327 WrathofG-d  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:19:24pm

Dang....they just keep sandbagging Clinton.

/0/well at least they are actually debating.

328 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:19:31pm

"I had no position on it because I was part of the administration."

Wot?

329 Wino  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:19:43pm

I see your Universal Healthcare and raise you a withdrawal from Iraq.

/Presidential Hold'em

330 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:19:43pm

Will Hillary cry tonight?

331 bar  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:19:46pm

Didn’t Bill Clinton run on the “health care” platform?

332 Macker  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:19:47pm

re: #267 Jetpilot1101

Less than a Double Monica?

333 livefreeor die  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:19:49pm

Argh, what happened? What happened? I'm just reading the thread-is she giving off smoke?

334 Jeff MacMillan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:19:50pm

"Hillary Clinton: (shedding tears) STOP ASKING ME Questions First! I keep getting asked first! Talk to Barack first! waaaaaah!"

335 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:19:52pm

but... but... but... she supported NAFTA...

336 jopa416  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:19:55pm

re: #325 anotherindyfilmguy

is it bad when your debate references SNL?


Desperation Time !

337 Zoltan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:19:58pm

Just being polite. Women first.

338 RTLM  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:01pm

My 8 yr old thinks Hillery looks "really weird".

339 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:02pm
340 Beach Lover  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:04pm

whys everybody always pickin' on me?

Charlie Brown Clinton

341 Alouette  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:05pm

Obamawulf vs. Hilldel

342 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:11pm

re: #301 Charles

Thanks for the reality check, Boss. The MSM never mentions that it's completely implausible. I start to wonder sometimes.

343 Sarge1984  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:11pm

Wanna fix NAFTA? Trash it!

344 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:19pm

wonk wonk wonk wonk wonk

345 Francisco D'anconia  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:21pm

"trade timeout" what the #$%?

346 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:23pm

re: #332 Macker

re: #267 Jetpilot1101

Less than a Double Monica?

...and more than a triple Flowers?

347 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:29pm

Trade time out? wtf, this is the real world not kinderfiggengarten...

348 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:30pm

She's not going after him.
And this was a great opportunity.

349 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:32pm

Fix NAFTA for the children!

350 Killian Bundy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:33pm

It's a vast first question conspiracy!

/trade time out, WTF?

351 AriZoney  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:42pm

"How come I always get the first questions?"

Because you're the First lady of the President who PASSED NAFTA. Ladies first...

352 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:42pm

Oh for GAWDS sake!
One of these two could be POTUS?
New Zealand sounding better and better............

353 saberry0530  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:43pm

A brief recap for those that missed the first part of the Debate.

Hillary Blah Blah Blah Blah Experience
Obama Blah blah blah blah CHange

Hillary Blah Blah Blah Blah Experience
Obama Blah blah blah blah CHange

Hillary Blah Blah Blah Blah Experience
Obama Blah blah blah blah CHange

Hillary Blah Blah Blah Blah Expereince
Obama Blah blah blah blah CHange

That about sums it up.

354 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:43pm

She's coming off terribly. Imperious, arrogant, snide, interruptive, the endless hand gestures.

355 Watuschskie  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:51pm

I'm a little behind because I recorded the first 20 minutes while I took the dog out. So I ain't gonna comment on the wicked witch until I catch up.

356 Ojoe  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:51pm

National health care should only cover you if you make some basic efforts to stay in shape and be healthy, but they won't say that....

exercise, etc.

357 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:20:55pm

eww, somebody criticized her

358 threecoloursblue  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:21:09pm

re: #278 Killgore Trout

It can be sold as Single Payer Healthcare. As introduced in Europe by Bismark. That's Count Otto Von Bismark. Not a socialist, the last time I looked. So, if someone can find the right wording,it can.

359 meMarc  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:21:12pm

Trade time-out? How about a jihadi time-out.

360 alacrityfitzhugh  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:21:12pm

Trade timeout...for all the six yr olds in the trade unions!

361 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:21:17pm
362 WrathofG-d  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:21:17pm

eh this is lame. Guitar Hero time. Bye Y'all.

Let me know when I get back if they say anything about actually winning the War On Terror & leaving Iraq victorious.

363 Sarge1984  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:21:21pm

Think Obama will stoop to bringing up Gennifer Flower's announcement that she's auctioning the Clinton conversation tapes?

364 Jeff MacMillan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:21:24pm

Hillary the Barbarian! vs. Barack o-come-ahhhhh

365 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:21:25pm

Wait for it...NAFTA is George Bush's fault.

366 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:21:28pm

manufacturing caucus?

367 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:21:29pm

fix NAFTA by killing it and getting fair trade deals...

negotiates to keep factories open my hairy butt...

368 livefreeor die  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:21:32pm

re: #354 JammieWearingFool

She's coming off terribly. Imperious, arrogant, snide, interruptive, the endless hand gestures.

Ah, she's finally letting her real self shine through.

369 GoJeepGo  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:21:35pm

"I have a record of bitching about stuff"
- Hillary

370 blue_like_jazz  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:21:39pm

OT... need sage lizard advice!

what is the best website for finding cheap airfares? travelocity, expedia, which one?

flying from charlotte to cheyenne sometime in the next month or so.

371 jopa416  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:21:42pm

I bet she interupts him here.

372 earthwirm  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:21:48pm

The problem with UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE is that everyone will FEEL ENTITLED to go to the doctor for FREE for every little sniffle.

Doctor's don't get paid much.

They become OVERWHELMED.

It takes 6 months to schedule a physical...

UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE... means below average healthcare for everyone.

Hillary Clinton will PUNISH people for buying better healthcare.

Doctor's will be shafted, more than ever. John Edwards and his ilk have already made it hard for Doctors.

The Dhimmicrats put out this carrot to get votes from the gimme free stuff crowd... and it pisses me off.

Will Brian Williams or Tim Russert even mention the word Islam or Islamists or terrorists tonight!?

Doubt it.

373 RTLM  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:21:49pm

Ah - almost time for Mr. Gotcha

374 meMarc  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:21:53pm

Notice how Hillary is holding her left hand down with her right so she doesn't smack Obama. Kind of like a Dr. Strangelove thing going on.

375 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:22:06pm

re: #355 Watuschskie

you didn't miss much...

376 AriZoney  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:22:07pm

Somebody call 911. We've got a meltdown on our hands. Hillary is going China Syndrome everybody get in the Shelters!

377 Charles  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:22:13pm

I think it's time for the aliens from Mars Attacks to appear.

378 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:22:18pm

re: #288 Jeff MacMillan

THIS ISN't A PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE!

This is a "Health Care" debate. 90 minutes worth of arguing whose plan sounds like a bigger mess of mandates and heaping federal obligations and regulations and Price Controls.....

We have to catch up with Cuba.

Michael fat moore

379 Jeff MacMillan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:22:19pm

#364

I meant Brack o-come-on-ahhhhhh
whatever... Just seems Barack looks completely disgusted in this debate.

380 alacrityfitzhugh  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:22:26pm

And what's that whining about getting the first question all the time? Who the @%&*# cares?

381 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:22:30pm
382 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:22:34pm

Not for nothing folks, she really has been getting the short end of the stick in terms of questions. The expectation is that she will answer fully, the expectation is very low for Obama. Hillary shouldn't whine about it though.

383 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:22:40pm

wait, this is too important ... wait for it

384 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:22:40pm

Obama's going to win by default if she doesn't go after him.
She's 0 out of 2 now.
Of course there's very little daylight between them on the real issues.

385 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:22:41pm

re: #358 threecoloursblue

It can be sold as Single Payer Healthcare.


Regardless of what you call it it will never pass anytime soon. The votes just aren't there.

386 harpsicon  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:22:44pm

re: #370 blue_like_jazz

kayak.com

387 rappmandu  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:22:51pm

re: #370 blue_like_jazz

orbitz, farecast, travelzoo, kayak

388 Thanos  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:22:54pm

re: #345 Francisco D'anconia

"trade timeout" what the #$%?

Avoiding the embargo word

389 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:00pm

I saw them... I wasn't working with them, they in the streets as my limo took me to the state senate...

390 meMarc  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:01pm

re: #377 Charles

I think it's time for the aliens from Mars Attacks to appear.

Kucinich in a loin cloth chased by, dare I say it, Ron Paul.

391 livefreeor die  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:05pm

How presidential. Whining about getting asked questions first.

392 loppyd  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:11pm

re: #354 JammieWearingFool

She's coming off terribly. Imperious, arrogant, snide, interruptive, the endless hand gestures.

I just tuned in. Her jaw is clenched as the Big O is talking.

393 StinkHammer  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:11pm

re: #216 mitthrawnurdo

re: #116 StinkHammer

Unfortunately, like most actresses, she's probably a moonbat.

Don't care. She's purty.

But it's interesting what people will say about other people that have pretty flesh at "strategic areas".

Her strategy works for me.

394 Watuschskie  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:16pm

re: #338 RTLM

You got a smart 8 year old -- keep him/her!

395 Alouette  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:17pm

re: #370 blue_like_jazz

OT... need sage lizard advice!

what is the best website for finding cheap airfares? travelocity, expedia, which one?

flying from charlotte to cheyenne sometime in the next month or so.

I get the best fares at bt-store.com, but I think that is for international only. Fo domestic, try Sidestep.com

396 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:23pm

Barack Obama shouldn't even respond to the questions he should just smile at the audience.

397 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:29pm

re: #390 meMarc

re: #377 Charles

I think it's time for the aliens from Mars Attacks to appear.

Kucinich in a loin cloth chased by, dare I say it, Ron Paul.

Yikes!

398 WrathofG-d  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:31pm

re: #372 earthwirm

Yes that is one problem. The other proplem is that I do not need to get forced to pay for someone elses healthcare. I want to have 7 kids. I will have to pay for all of their healthcare, and their kids healthcare....why do I have to pay for some strangers healthcare too?

Secondly, those that are going to overuse the system are not going to be paying into the Healthcare system. Through tax the Gov would steal money from those that are going to go to their own private doctors.

ok really going to play Guitar Hero now.

399 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:36pm
400 Macker  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:36pm

re: #377 Charles

I think it's time for the aliens from Mars Attacks to appear.

And let 'em run havoc till Slim Whitman appears?

401 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:38pm

re: #381 buzzsawmonkey

Start singing Slim Whitman.

402 Ojoe  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:46pm

re: #372 earthwirm

ride a bike, do push-ups, eat moderately, don't smoke, problem solved.

403 WrathofG-d  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:48pm

re: #377 Charles

ack ack!

404 AriZoney  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:50pm

re: #377 Charles

Please, God. They Can't possibly be worse than the possibility one of these clowns would be running the country.

405 mythicknight  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:52pm

Did she seriously just say she represented Upstate with a straight face?

ugh

406 J.S.  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:54pm

Clinton's done for...

Also, what's annoying here is that with respect to NAFTA -- yeah, they're both opposed, yet don't say how they'll change it. What's their policies? Nobody knows -- just that they "don't like it."

407 RightOnTheLeftCoast  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:56pm

WTF does lead-painted toys from China have to do with NAFTA?
The "NA" stands for "North American"... last time I looked at a globe China wasn't in North America.

408 solomonpanting  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:23:57pm

Hillary looks like the cold-hearted blond chick in that Jean-Claude Van Damme film, Lionheart.

409 Jeff MacMillan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:24:01pm

30 minutes = Health Care
45 Minutes = Nafta
Good Night Folks!

410 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:24:05pm

re: #392 loppyd

re: #354 JammieWearingFool

She's coming off terribly. Imperious, arrogant, snide, interruptive, the endless hand gestures.

I just tuned in. Her jaw is clenched as the Big O is talking.

she's sharpening her fangs...

411 Sarge1984  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:24:07pm

Oh, snap! The moderator's calling her out? Am I hearing that right?

412 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:24:08pm

When did she change her eye color from brown to blue? Or are those just contacts?

413 ciaospirit  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:24:09pm

re: #61 IslandLibertarian

re: #25 MandyManners

He's been groomed from an early age.

[Link: www.punahou.edu...]

Punahou is a very "elite" and expensive private school.
'Curious how a single mom paid for BHO's tuition........
not that it matters...ahem........er.....oh, never mind........

Yeah, and in Ohio he's running a commercial saying that when his "poor" mom died of cancer, during the last painful months, she spent more time worrying about paying the medical bills than getting well. I don't know why he didn't just heal her. He is Baraketh Obameth after all.

414 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:24:12pm

Go, Timbo!

415 alacrityfitzhugh  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:24:12pm

Hillary: "I'm ready to be the Leader of the Free World...unless I have to go first all the time!"

416 Shaky Louie  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:24:13pm

Wasn't it Bill who first signed off on NAFTA?
/memory bad

417 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:24:17pm

By the way Obama- the largest drug maker over seas is TEVA -- an Israeli company and the drugs are full strength and accurate you moron!

418 rappmandu  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:24:19pm

*whispers to Russert "He raised taxes"*

419 hayseed  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:24:21pm

my pension gives me 24 thousand pretend health care dollars a year. can the federal guberment do any better

420 Palandine  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:24:22pm

Boy, talk about a reversal of fortune. Do you think Hillary ever thought the MSM would turn on her like this?

421 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:24:27pm

Russert is really beating the crap out of HIllary. I guess we are getting a preview of the McCain Obama debates.

422 Killian Bundy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:24:34pm

Is this a debate or an Obama infomercial?

/it's like three against one

423 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:24:38pm

in other words I won't change anything...

424 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:24:46pm

re: #408 solomonpanting

Hillary looks like the cold-hearted blond chick in that Jean-Claude Van Damme film, Lionheart.

I think she looks like the Russians wife from Rocky IV

425 Killgore Trout  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:24:58pm

Playing hardball with Hillary tonight.

426 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:24:59pm

Did they do WOT last debate?

427 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:25:04pm

re: #422 Killian Bundy

yes.

428 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:25:08pm
429 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:25:14pm

re: #407 RightOnTheLeftCoast

WTF does lead-painted toys from China have to do with NAFTA?
The "NA" stands for "North American"... last time I looked at a globe China wasn't in North America.

I guess that school wasn't so elitist after all. Maybe they should invest in some geography teachers.

430 meMarc  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:25:17pm

Will she tell Mexico in Spanish?

431 Ojoe  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:25:17pm

re: #404 AriZoney

We are watching the denouement of the Democratic party before our very eyes.

432 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:25:27pm

Hillary doesn't understand what a TREATY is.
You have to quit the NAFTA one to rewrite a new one.
It doesn't morph.

433 Bobblehead  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:25:28pm

I'm hopeiating for some changeification!

434 Sarge1984  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:25:29pm

Confrontational moderator? Whodathunkit?

435 J.S.  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:25:30pm

So, clinton will re-negotiate NAFTA. Yeah, that explains sooo much..

436 DesertSage  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:25:32pm

re: #416 Shaky Louie

Wasn't it Bill who first signed off on NAFTA?
/memory bad

You are correct, Billy boy signed it into law and implemented it.

437 loppyd  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:25:33pm

Russert likes to think he is the third candidate

438 RTLM  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:25:36pm

seething rage

439 alacrityfitzhugh  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:25:47pm

Snarky with Tim Russert...bad form!

440 MacGregor  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:25:48pm

Russert is beating hillery like a bad mule.

441 jopa416  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:25:53pm

Wow, she is getting treated like a republican by Russert !


How do you like it Haldabeast ?

442 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:25:57pm

oooooooh... hold her footsies to the fire of nafta...

I fell in to a burning ring of nafta...

443 livefreeor die  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:25:58pm

re: #421 Jetpilot1101

Russert is really beating the crap out of HIllary. I guess we are getting a preview of the McCain Obama debates.

Didn't she go after Russert after the first MSNBC debate, accusing him of dirty tricks because he actually wanted her to answer the question? Sounds like it's pay back time from the Tim-inator.

444 AriZoney  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:26:06pm

Wow... Hillary is getting a serious beat down, from the moderator no less. I almost feel bad for her. Almost.

445 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:26:09pm

Will she pull all the Mexicans out of the USA in six months?

446 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:26:18pm

and it burned burned burned the ring of nafta...

447 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:26:23pm
448 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:26:28pm

Vandy up by 11

449 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:26:31pm

Did the media figure out that the Republican's wanted Hillary and thus decide to turn on her or was it Obama's changiness that wooed them?

450 braddock  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:26:33pm

Hillary has red face. Time for a commercial.

451 Thanos  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:26:33pm

Russert's out to tear the remaining populists from Hillary's base. NAFTA is a non-issue red-herring as well.

452 AriZoney  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:26:49pm

re: #431 Ojoe

re: #404 AriZoney

We are watching the denouement of the Democratic party before our very eyes.

Indeed...

453 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:26:51pm

re: #445 itellu3times

no, but she might get them all in within half that time...

454 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:27:01pm

re: #451 Thanos

Russert's out to tear the remaining populists from Hillary's base. NAFTA is a non-issue red-herring as well.

Good point.

455 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:27:02pm

When is he going to ask Obama if he's comfortable enough?

456 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:27:03pm

This is what happens when you actually have a record to run on.

457 rappmandu  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:27:09pm

Does Obama have to say anything tonight? I thought this was a debate, not a MSM committee hearing.

/

458 Sarge1984  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:27:09pm

Upstate New York!

Drink!

459 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:27:10pm

yes! blood pressure rising!

460 JammieWearingFool  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:27:16pm

How did loppyd sneak in here at night?

461 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:27:20pm

Please say Commander and Chief,

I just shiver all over..


yeowwww.

462 livefreeor die  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:27:25pm

re: #455 NJDhockeyfan

When is he going to ask Obama if he's comfortable enough?

After he fluffs his pillows.

463 Charles  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:27:40pm

Will they subject Obama to the same grilling?

I'm guessing, no.

464 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:27:42pm

How is she gonna pull out of NAFTA and also make the rest of the worls love us again?

465 Killian Bundy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:27:44pm

Boy, I hope they hide the ashtrays before this one's over.

/Hillary's getting bushwacked

466 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:27:48pm
467 loppyd  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:27:50pm

re: #460 JammieWearingFool

How did loppyd sneak in here at night?

new laptop at work which my brother let me bring home tonight....

468 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:27:55pm

re: #462 livefreeor die

while rubbing his shoulders...

469 Jfundie  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:28:01pm

re: #377 Charles

I think it's time for the aliens from Mars Attacks to appear.

I can picture Hillary's head on a dog. Dog's head on Obama's suit would be much smarter too.

470 Jeff MacMillan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:28:08pm

Hillary will re-negotiate with Canada and Mexico on Core Labor Agreements which means:

1) "Demand Canada start dumping their French Population into Michigan since Canada is already dumping their trash there..."

2) "Create a UNION out of the Country of MEXICO and give the union, American Labor Rights"

*just a hunch*

471 AriZoney  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:28:10pm

re: #450 braddock

1. She has blood circulating. Who knew?
2. You can actually see that red through the four inches of makeup she's wearing. That's bad...

472 DesertSage  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:28:15pm

Obama gets a free ride.

473 loppyd  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:28:22pm

Now I'm off to bed.

See you all tomorrow!

474 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:28:23pm

Obama is such a lightweight. The expectations are very low for him.

475 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:28:33pm

Can we talk about foreign policy now, please?

476 Noam Sayin'  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:28:35pm

Just tuning in...

Is there such thing as too much botox? Hillary might be treading a dangerous line lately.

477 irongrampa  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:28:52pm

My joy at watching hillary get tubed is tempered by the thought of Obama actually becoming president. I cannot imagine a worse outcome for this country than Barack Obama as president.

478 AriZoney  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:28:57pm

re: #463 Charles

Will they subject Obama to the same grilling?

I'm guessing, no.

Nah. That'd be unfair. When the MSM picks a favorite they support them.

479 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:29:23pm

re: #476 Noam Sayin'

Just tuning in...

Is there such thing as too much botox? Hillary might be treading a dangerous line lately.

Well, Nancy Pelosi's face is about to fall off.

480 meMarc  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:29:24pm

Proud. Unlike you're wife.

481 Nevergiveup  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:29:25pm

NAFTA ----wasn't this debate like 10 years ago?

482 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:29:28pm

Obama is sneaking the word "proud" in whenever he can.

483 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:29:29pm
484 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:29:31pm

hillaries internal dialogue:
Rage building, temperature rising... must control rage, must... control... rage...

485 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:29:35pm
486 Earthwirm  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:29:38pm

#398

True. If we send kids to private schools... we still have to pay property taxes for schools. We have to pay for schools when we don't have kids... and when our kids are out of school.

So much is wrong with the system today.

On the federal level, Gov't expenditures should be defense and roads. Nothing more.

487 BBev  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:29:46pm

re: #312 StinkHammer

re: #192 Palandine


Is 47 million people are uninsured (a percentage which seems awfully high), that's about 15% of our population.

Of course it's high because it's an inflated number, taken as an aggragate snapshot of all the people who at sometime during the year were without health insurance, NOT a tally of the chronically uninsured.

I pay for my own health insurance and I was told that it is going from $1,069 to $1,700.00 a month, I don't know about you all but something has to be done.

488 Thanos  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:29:55pm

Canada and Mexico are not overseas Obama.

489 livefreeor die  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:29:55pm

Oh boy. If they give him a free pass, we might get the mother of all Hillary meltdowns tonight!

490 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:29:56pm

Tim certainly didnt badger Obama over the answer to the NAFTa treaty.

491 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:29:56pm

Lack of innovation ... let's hear their answers to that

I am not hopeful

492 FightingBack  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:30:13pm

re: #485 buzzsawmonkey

re: #477 irongrampa

My joy at watching hillary get tubed is tempered by the thought of Obama actually becoming president. I cannot imagine a worse outcome for this country than Barack Obama as president.

Sure you can. Michelle Obama as Veep.

She'll run for Pres after his two terms...

493 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:30:18pm

re: #482 mean Gene

Obama is sneaking the word "proud" in whenever he can.


Proud.
Drink!

494 DesertSage  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:30:24pm

Obama isn't sure...
...about anything.

495 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:30:33pm

When you can't answer, blame Bush!

496 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:30:39pm

Obambi did better, he talked about the workers and communities, not just the meta-subject and the politics.

497 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:30:50pm

Green Jobs!

/drink

498 Jfundie  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:30:51pm

Science!

499 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:30:54pm

what a load of platitudes... we gotta - we gotta - we gotta...

500 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:30:55pm
501 rappmandu  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:30:55pm

BIG TELECOM IS RIPPING US OFF!

502 Killian Bundy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:30:57pm

re: #463 Charles

Will they subject Obama to the same grilling?

I'm guessing, no.

Well, he never says or does anything.

/hard to make any hay with an amorphous tabula rasa

503 alacrityfitzhugh  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:30:57pm

Seven years of a President of the "well heeled"...Whodathunkit?

504 RTLM  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:31:00pm

Build wind mills!

505 meMarc  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:31:01pm

Obama should shave a flag into his hair. That would show people he's patriotic.

506 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:31:17pm

green jobs

gimme more green for my job, is what I want.

507 threecoloursblue  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:31:20pm

re: #466 song_and_dance_man

The Dems are afraid that if Hillary won she'd bring all the rightwing loathing of her into the job, and nothing would get done. So they're dumping her. That's not me saying, but American commentators on Irish radio discussing the race.

508 Palandine  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:31:23pm

Protectionism, a $9 minimum wage, and universal health care!

Free stuff for all!
/inflation, what's that?
//windmills? I thought those killed stupid birds, and ruined the Kennedys' view off Cape Cod

509 Jeff MacMillan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:31:26pm

Obama's create economic plan:

Federal government has to pay for Science
Federal GOvernment has to pay for Technology
Federal Government has to pay for alternative fuels
Federal Government has to pay for my Grandma's Meds
Federal Government has to give me a new pair of socks.

510 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:31:33pm

Wishy washy answers, all pie in the sky from Obama.

511 Shug  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:31:35pm

Just joining the party

Did I miss anything substantive?

/

512 Macker  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:31:37pm

re: #505 meMarc

Obama should shave a flag into his hair. That would show people he's patriotic.

That may not be a good idea, his numbers might show.

513 saberry0530  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:31:40pm

re: #412 JammieWearingFool

When did she change her eye color from brown to blue? Or are those just contacts?

Modified mini lasers

514 rappmandu  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:31:40pm

Windmills? LMAO...tulip farms and clog factories, too!

515 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:31:46pm

re: #505 meMarc

Obama should shave a flag into his hair. That would show people he's patriotic.

I think he's wearing his Che boxers tonight.

516 mean Gene  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:31:51pm

I wanna be a windmill builder supervisor.

517 jaunte  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:31:56pm

re: #507 threecoloursblue

They think the loathing is personal.

518 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:31:59pm

re: #511 Shug

hillarys turning red...

519 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:01pm
520 DesertSage  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:02pm

America is becoming an Obamanation.

521 Francisco D'anconia  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:04pm

Obama really is an idiot isnt he? Someone get him a copy of Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations stat.

522 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:09pm

oops - a little exuberant

blame it on Al Gore, yeah, ...

523 Sarge1984  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:16pm

Oh, no! Not another Hillary slam!

Anything but calling her out on promises she couldn't keep!

524 jopa416  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:20pm

Look, concerning Ohio, the reason that Ohio loses jobs is because the state is run by democrat unions, not NAFTA. Companies are running for the borders, and by borders I mean Kentucky & Indiana.

Greeensville Indiana is currently building a huge Honda plant that Ohio missed out on.

525 alacrityfitzhugh  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:25pm

Five million jobs! Four and a half million just trailing Bill!

526 Lucius Septimius  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:26pm
527 J.S.  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:27pm

The MSM is a cheerleader for Obama, since they figure that Obama will wipe McCain off the map. (McCain has already made so many stunning gaffs -- "hundred years in Iraq," etc, etc. he doesn't stand a chance against an Obama...McCain has a much better chance if running against Hillary.)

528 livefreeor die  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:31pm

re: #518 anotherindyfilmguy

re: #511 Shug

hillarys turning red...

If she starts to turn purple, I'll turn my TV on.

529 DirtyDog  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:33pm

re: #504 RTLM

Build wind mills!

Driven through Kansas/Oklahoma/Texas lately? They can't build 'em fast enough.

530 DesertSage  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:35pm

Blame Bush!
Blame the Republicans!

531 Earthwirm  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:38pm

Barack Obama,

There aren't many buggy manufacturers anymore either...

The US economy becomes more competitive when Gov't gets out of the business of Americans.

Also, last 7 years, people have made more money and have more buying power than ever before.

Also, net job loss in the midwest is because of MIGRATION out of the midwest to the south and southwest.

532 GoJeepGo  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:41pm

wow Hillary is blaming Bush for her not providing jobs in upstate NY

533 little boomer  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:45pm

Hillary is on fire-her cheeks anyways

534 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:48pm

...here it comes, I failed so blame the Republicans.

535 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:48pm

mebbe the red thing is msnbc... the little horns will be added later after giving her cat eyes...

536 rappmandu  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:52pm

Nader screwed Upstate NY!

537 Pawn of the Oppressor[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:54pm
538 Sarge1984  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:57pm

Oh! As President I will have a lot more tools at my disposal!

Power Hungry Hillary!

539 Francisco D'anconia  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:32:57pm

did hill just Blame Bush for not creating jobs in her district?

540 bkgodfrey  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:33:00pm

wow, i turn the damn debate on and the first thing i hear is the Hill bashing Bush, did W just announce his plan to run again?

541 FightingBack  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:33:02pm

re: #519 buzzsawmonkey

re: #492 FightingBack

re: #485 buzzsawmonkey

re: #477 irongrampa

My joy at watching hillary get tubed is tempered by the thought of Obama actually becoming president. I cannot imagine a worse outcome for this country than Barack Obama as president.

Sure you can. Michelle Obama as Veep.

She'll run for Pres after his two terms...

Look, if you want to make me shiver, just walk over my grave, OK?

Being First Lady is qualification enough, correct?

542 alacrityfitzhugh  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:33:07pm

"Under my husband..." bad visual there, Hill!

543 ibmkeyboard  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:33:10pm

McCain could beat both of them

Drunk.

544 Ringo the Gringo  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:33:11pm

Softballs to Obama and personal questions at Hillary.

545 Killian Bundy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:33:12pm

New thread.

/move up!

546 itellu3times  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:33:19pm

hildabeast certainly is prepared

but she's wonking and babbling all the same

547 Thanos  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:33:20pm

Keep tools out of Hillary's hands if you value the future

548 braddock  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:33:25pm

Oh snap! Russert just cold cocked Hillary again.

549 TMF  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:33:33pm

"Health Care"

You get sick, you get better

99% of illnesses require no "health care"

To the dems, its some sacred gaia given right

True conversation with rich white lady walking poodle down my street:

Lady: "Whaddya think of my man Obama"?
Me: "Looks like hes gonna win it"
Lady: "I like him"
Me: "I wont vote for him"
Lady: "I will"
Me: "He has no experience"
Lady: "We need his health care"
Me: "I have health care"

End of conversation

550 AriZoney  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:33:33pm

WTF is a Green Collar job? I thought hugging trees was a hobby, not a career.

551 Watuschskie  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:33:37pm

Da Hildabeast is really pissed!

552 kateca  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:33:43pm

Shared prosperity, dammit!

//

553 nyc redneck  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:33:43pm

re: #472 DesertSage

Obama gets a free ride.

and we get free everything.

554 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:33:46pm
555 Sarge1984  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:33:48pm

re: #537 Pawn of the Oppressor

Really bad form.

556 snowcrash  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:33:54pm

MSM really wants Hillary out now.

557 Palandine  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:33:55pm

Take Germany,

please!

Thanks, I'll be here all week. Try the veal.

558 solomonpanting  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:34:02pm

Five million new jobs if Gore were elected? Oh, government jobs, I get it. Financed solely by the government. Whew! That was a close one!

559 anotherindyfilmguy  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:34:03pm

these are jobs that can be created...
not by socialism...

560 Jeff MacMillan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:34:08pm

#522 itellu3times

"oops - a little exuberant

blame it on Al Gore, yeah, ..."

Watching this debate I fully expect Al Gore to Leap out of the audience, on to the stage, knock over Tim Russert, grab the microphone, and start rapping about Barack Obama and Global Warming.

561 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:34:13pm

re: #545 Killian Bundy
Shifting over!

562 Thanos  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:34:51pm

re: #529 DirtyDog

re: #504 RTLM


Build wind mills!

Driven through Kansas/Oklahoma/Texas lately? They can't build 'em fast enough.

The problem with windmills

563 StinkHammer  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:34:52pm

re: #487 BBev

re: #312 StinkHammer


re: #192 Palandine

Is 47 million people are uninsured (a percentage which seems awfully high), that's about 15% of our population.

Of course it's high because it's an inflated number, taken as an aggragate snapshot of all the people who at sometime during the year were without health insurance, NOT a tally of the chronically uninsured.

I pay for my own health insurance and I was told that it is going from $1,069 to $1,700.00 a month, I don't know about you all but something has to be done.

"Something has to be done" is usually the lead-in mentality for "Gov't intervention is the answer." If that's your thought process, count me out. Otherwise, please detail your remedy.

564 MacGregor  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:35:06pm

Bush's fault - Drink!

565 blue_like_jazz  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:35:07pm

hey... thanks for the airline ticket sites upthread! this thing is moving fast!

//go to make a g&t and lgf takes off without me

566 mfarmer1  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:35:11pm

re: #478 AriZoney

re: #463 Charles


Will they subject Obama to the same grilling?

I'm guessing, no.


Nah. That'd be unfair. When the MSM picks a favorite they support them.

Perhaps true, but this glaringly illustrates that at least Hillary has something to question regarding policy and record. Man, I never thought I'd have any sympathy for her.

567 IslandLibertarian  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:35:25pm

There's a lot here, but worth the read......

Back in Hawaii, Obama’s grandparents enrolled the fifth grader in the famous Punahou prep school (current tuition $14,725). With 3,750 students from K-12, it enrolls a high proportion of all the young elites in Hawaii. Illustrative of its financial resources, Sports Illustrated ranks it as having the fourth-best high-school sports program in America.

In Obama’s book, Punahou was a nightmare of racial insensitivity, with one of his fellow students even asking to touch his hair. What he doesn’t reveal is that Punahou was quite possibly the most racially diverse prep school in America. It officially opened its doors to all races in 1851. Sun Yat-sen, the first president of China, attended it in the 1880s.

In Obama’s eighth grade class picture, at least seven and perhaps as many as ten of the 21 students are non-white. Brian Charlton of the AP threw some cold water on Obama’s adolescent alienation fantasies: “He was known as Barry Obama, and with his dark complexion and mini-Afro, he was one of the few blacks at the privileged Hawaiian school overlooking the Pacific. Yet that hardly made him stand out. Diversity was the norm at the Punahou School, one of the state’s top private schools.” His classmates say he was a popular and cheerful figure, the opposite of the tortured personality described in Dreams, in which he rationalizes his teenage drug use as “something that could push questions of who I was out of my mind . . .”

When Barack was in high school in the later 1970s, no whites held Hawaii’s top elected jobs as U.S. senator or governor. Indeed, as his father pointed out in a 1963 newspaper interview, whites were sometimes the victims of discrimination in Hawaii. Obama also fails to note the charming local custom of calling the last day of school “Kill Haole Day.”

Power to the Correct People!
(Haoles included!)

568 Thanos  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:35:35pm

re: #550 AriZoney

WTF is a Green Collar job? I thought hugging trees was a hobby, not a career.

it's a whole friggen industry.

569 Earthwirm  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:35:37pm

OBAMA JUST LIED!

Al Qaeda is not stronger than anytime since 2001.

What an arseclown.

570 AriZoney  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:35:53pm

Al-Qaueda is stronger than it was in 2001? WHAT?!

571 threecoloursblue  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:36:12pm

re: #517 jaunte

They think it's personal, they think it's her policies and they think it's good old fashioned misogny. In other words a melange of things which she can't overcome. So dump her.

572 MacGregor  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:36:40pm

100 year war in Iraq!

573 solomonpanting  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:36:55pm

re: #570 AriZoney

Al-Qaueda is stronger than it was in 2001? WHAT?!

Maybe now in Pakistan. Maybe that's why he'd invade them.

574 TMF  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:36:56pm
Someone get him a copy of Adam Smith's Wealth of Nations stat.

Im thinkin' of another book

575 Jeff MacMillan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:37:16pm

"#570 AriZoney 2/26/08 6:35:53 pm reply quote report 0

Al-Qaueda is stronger than it was in 2001? WHAT?!"

Well of course... It makes sense... The Democrats just defeated the Surveillance Act.

576 Doug  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:37:16pm

Can I touch your eyebrows? They are most bizarre!

577 Earthwirm  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:37:41pm

Obama,

Guess what. Pushing for democracy in Pakistan killed Bhutto and put into office a coalition that is going to be more friendly to AQ than Musharraf was.

Musharraf for all his faults was an ally, in a very f'd up country.

Apparently Iraq is bad, even though in 2002 and 2003 all the intelligence and both parties believed it was a threat. But... It is ok to go into Pakistan and just stir up the hornets nest...

WTF!?

These people are idiots. Keep them out of the CiC chair.

578 jaunte  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:38:14pm

re: #571 threecoloursblue

Yes, they just don't realize it's the policies she supports that account for 90-odd-percent of her unpopularity.

579 BBev  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:38:34pm

re: #563 StinkHammer

re: #487 BBev


re: #312 StinkHammer

re: #192 Palandine

Is 47 million people are uninsured (a percentage which seems awfully high), that's about 15% of our population.

Of course it's high because it's an inflated number, taken as an aggragate snapshot of all the people who at sometime during the year were without health insurance, NOT a tally of the chronically uninsured.

I pay for my own health insurance and I was told that it is going from $1,069 to $1,700.00 a month, I don't know about you all but something has to be done.

"Something has to be done" is usually the lead-in mentality for "Gov't intervention is the answer." If that's your thought process, count me out. Otherwise, please detail your remedy.

Less government control open states to more competition.

580 AriZoney  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:38:47pm

re: #573 solomonpanting

re: #575 Jeff MacMillan

You guys are right...I think I'm going to cry.

581 Cartman  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:38:55pm

Even the diehard Euro-socialistas have gotta be chuckling at these two.

582 TMF  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:39:16pm

Al Qaeda is not stronger than anytime since 2001.

Hes just parroting some bullshit NIE

If AQ was stronger than it was before 9/11 we would have had at least a FEW decent attacks by now, wouldnt we?

583 Watuschskie  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:40:53pm

I could have spent my time better by continuing to walk my dog!

I hope that the wicked witch blows up pretty soon.

584 Doug  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:41:02pm

What were those monkey's names?

585 irongrampa  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:41:16pm

Watching this strengthens my conviction that voting for McCain leaves the most likelyhood that there will BE a country left at the end of his term.

586 MacGregor  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:41:25pm

Tiptoe through iraq facts. One slip up will kill both of them.

587 Jeff MacMillan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:42:40pm

Barack Obama Foreign Policy:

"My position on Pakistan is exactly what President Bush is doing, which is why you can't vote for John McCain who would do what President Bush is doing."

Huh?

588 Cartman  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:42:41pm

re: #550 AriZoney

WTF is a Green Collar job? I thought hugging trees was a hobby, not a career.

Not sure, but McCain was talking yesterday about Ohio making an economic comeback via what (I believe) he termed "the green industry". WTF?

589 USBeast  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:44:04pm

Alright, I am royally pissed off.

"Shame on Danny for trying to pull that stunt," Obama said"

"Danny"? "Danny"!?

Dear Senator Obama,

That's "Mr." or "Senator" Inouye to you, punk! You don't have the credentials to amount to a pimple on Daniel Inouye's backside!

Your arrogance is insulting not only to your seniors but also to those
believe that America is worth fighting for.

I will not only not vote for you, I will actively work to see that you never hold any office in this country. Damn you, sir.

Very sincerely yours,

U. S. Beast.

590 Watuschskie  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:46:30pm

She looks like a pissed off chipmunk.

591 Jeff MacMillan  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:47:17pm

Tim Russert:

"If Al queda invades Iraq after you pull the troops out, would you put the troops back in Iraq?"

Obama, "Afghanistan... I want more troops in Afghanistan!"

Huh?

592 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:51:37pm
Will they subject Obama to the same grilling?

I'm guessing, no.

The MSM does appear to have made its choice. The question is, will this country's conservative majority behave pragmatically enough to overcome the MSM-induced 10-12% head start most socialist candidates get.

I'll probably me mildly drunk when I do it, but I'll be voting for McCain.

/I'm contemplating the recipe for a cocktail to assist. I plan to call it Novomcain.

593 yesandno  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:53:30pm

For a moment I thought Obama said Massa-tu-setts....then I realized he was referring to fellow Senators Kerry and Kennedy...Massa-two-sh-ts....

/being born in Massachusetts I resent he can't pronounce it.

594 yesandno  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:54:19pm

Now we got the Hillary Cackle! Great....

595 swamprat  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:56:42pm

need amontage of hillary crying

596 tommygum  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 6:59:05pm

"Fight!". DRINK!

597 RedWhiteAndJew  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 7:02:44pm

PIMF

me mildly drunk => be mildly drunk

/(hick)

598 FrogMarch  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 7:28:03pm

I'm on the island of Maui right now - vacationing. It's early here - the sun is still up and I'm not paying attention to politics. I'm all pau. ...other than the occasional AM talk radio show called "someone" and the "judge"" - and they are very funny.

599 FrogMarch  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 7:29:04pm

I pray this nation uderstands that we cannot have the clintons at the helm again. No matter how scary Obama is...

600 rawmuse  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 8:10:23pm

re: #599 FrogMarch

I think we are pretty much fooked, regardless of whomever of these 3 or 4 candidates get elected. But, that's just me. I am stocking up on incandescent bulbs. They will be worth a lot of money someday.

601 Trumpeter  Tue, Feb 26, 2008 9:25:01pm
Hey, Barack and Hillary are going to vie for the coveted Democratic nomination again tonight on MSNBC, grabbing for the brass ring,

What brass ring? Maybe it should be brass pole?

602 avram  Wed, Feb 27, 2008 3:43:58pm

re: #61 IslandLibertarian
re: #25 MandyManners

He's been groomed from an early age.
[Link: [Link: www.punahou.edu...]...]

Punahou is a very "elite" and expensive private school.
'Curious how a single mom paid for BHO's tuition........
not that it matters...ahem........er.....oh, never mind........
Good question.

The answer is that he received a scholarship. Very simple.

As a friend of Charles' who went to Punahou (graduated 1972), I can attest that it was and no doubt continues to be a fine school. It caters to Hawaii's economic elite, but it also enrolls middle class and (economically) lower class students who do well on aptitude exams and personal interviews. And of course, it also gives athletic scholarships. It is certainly a mistake to assume that all of its students come from wealthy families. My family was certainly not wealthy.


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