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Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 2:21:26 pm PDT

Here’s a Kos Kid explaining that Eliot Spitzer can’t possibly be a hypocrite ... because he’s a Democrat, and nobody expects Democrats to have moral standards: Daily Kos: Elliot Spitzer Caught Soliciting Prostitutes.

Did I mention that Spitzer is a Democrat? And a Daily Kos diarist?

Kevin Drums suggests that the usual charges of hypocrisy in prostitution/infidelity scandals come into play here, but I don’t think that accusation is wuite as fair this time. As a prosecutor, it was expected of Spitzer to bust prostitution rings and it’s not as if he (like the Republicans) touts his commitment to sexual morality— over that of his political opponents— in order to get elected. He may be a hypocrite if (as is presumable) he tells his wife he’s faithful to her, and he tells people that they should stay faithful to their spouses, etc. But politically, he’s not a hypocrite, and it doesn’t have it anything to do with his politics the way it does for some others who got caught.

I chalk this event up as an (embarassing) personal failing, but as far as what the typical cheating scandal is like, to me this one is more like personal business and less appropriate as political news or a political criticism of him. You can’t even call it a double-standard for Republicans, because it’s the Republicans who make it an issue for themselves by claiming to have an iron-clad commitment to pbserving these kinds of taboos.

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1 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:23:23pm
2 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:24:08pm

As G-d is my witness, I was going to write on the last thread that the LLLs won't care because only Republicans "moralize" and hence, are the only ones who can be hypocrites.

Since the LLL have no morals, ooops, sorry, I mean, have an "Anything GOes" ideology (unless you are a Joo/Christian), you cannot be hypocritical.

3 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:24:20pm

So it's better to just give up and not even try to be moral, because if you place a value on morality, and don't live up to it, you'll be a hypocrite, and their's nothing worse.

Ok, if you say so.

4 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:24:42pm

Let's overlook the fact that as both a prosecutor and chief law enforcement officer for the state of New York, Spitzer is well aware of the links between prostitution rings and organized crime.

For subjecting himself to blackmail alone he's got to go.

5 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:25:12pm

Their argument basically is: We can't be hypocrites, because we have no moral standards to begin with.

Well... okay, if you say so.

6 Dahveed  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:25:16pm

Ahh...the old Democrats are infallible routine. If only Spitzer did something like lower taxes in the State of NY. Then he would be quite the criminal.

7 me  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:25:23pm

yeah, OK, i get it.

8 ggt  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:25:26pm

Hello -- these threads are moving to fast for me.

9 jemima  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:25:41pm

Tap. Tap. Is this thing on?

He. Broke. The. Law.

10 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:26:00pm

#3 Lucius... mentes grandes piensan iguales, as we say down Mexico way.

11 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:26:02pm
But politically, he's not a hypocrite, and it doesn't have it anything to do with his politics the way it does for some others who got caught.

He's not the Democrat of New York, moron, he's the Governor of New York.

There's an oath.

Effen eff head.

12 coquimbojoe  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:26:03pm

re: #1 FrogMarch

But has she removed all evidence of her husband?

13 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:26:12pm

Somewhat OT: But since we're on the subject of the sex industry, I feel I must do some bragging.

Since I was nominated for an award, I recently attended the Adult Film Awards in LV. In recognition of my talent, I was given the award for my catagory: Best Solo Performance.

/I totally stole that joke and I don't care who knows it

14 WOHBuckeye  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:26:41pm

So busting prostitution rings as a prosecutor, then taking part in one yourself doesn't make you a hypocrite?

I love how Demos and the left find nothing that makes them hypocritical. Al Gore can soar all over the plant, leaving Bigfoot-like carbon footprints all over the Earth, yet he's no hypocrite. Bill Clinton can run on a rabid anti-sexual harassment platform, then sexually harass every woman who had the lack of intelligence to work for him, he's no hypocrite. Nancy Pelosi can preach greed and point fingers from her anointed throne in Washington, yet puts our country's security into the tank all so her trial lawyer constituents can make some bucks suing telephone companies.

Note to KosKid: Your whole party is a bunch of hypocrites.

15 zombie  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:26:51pm
it’s not as if he (like the Republicans) touts his commitment to sexual morality

So, the Kos argument goes like this:

Democrats are all immoral sleazebags. And they are proud of it. So, when they get caught being sleazy, it's not hypocritical -- it's to be expected!

16 EC Marm  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:26:56pm

Typo check:
wuite = quite?
pbserving = observing?

17 ggt  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:27:13pm

re: #9 jemima

But the Constitution is a Living, Breathing Document. Are you sure you interpreted the Law correctly -- I mean, you know, Life, Liberty and The Pursuit of Happiness.

///!

18 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:27:29pm
But politically, he’s not a hypocrite

... since the Democrats are the pro-marital infidelity party.

Or the pro-sex-with-hookers party.

Or something like that.

19 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:27:55pm

In honer of this thread, I will use PIMP instead of PIMF.

20 FreeIowa  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:28:06pm

“Don’t you guys get it? Laws only apply to everyone else, not us!” Typical left-wing thinking.

21 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:28:06pm

HONOR.

PIMP.

22 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:28:18pm

One delicious irony is the hooker was the first person to ever think Spitzer wasn't an insufferable, obnoxious a-hole.

"Kristen" said "that she liked him and did not think he was difficult." She collected $4,300 from Client 9.
23 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:28:20pm

democrat, thy name is hypocrisy.

24 Mich-again  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:28:24pm
But politically, he’s not a hypocrite...

What the hell does that mean. Your character does not change depending on the situation. Your outward behavior may change, but your character is there always. So to say he's a hypocrite as a person, but not as a politician, thats just dumb.

25 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:29:03pm

Democrats stand for absolutely nothing, ipso facto they can not be hypocrites.

/

26 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:29:06pm
27 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:29:10pm
I chalk this event up as an (embarassing) personal failing, but as far as what the typical cheating scandal is like, to me this one is more like personal business and less appropriate as political news or a political criticism of him. You can’t even call it a double-standard for Republicans, because it’s the Republicans who make it an issue for themselves by claiming to have an iron-clad commitment to pbserving these kinds of taboos.

Ah, good excuse. We all know the Democrats are a bunch of immoral scumballs, so how is this a scandal?

Lovely

28 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:29:18pm

re: #19 Ben Hur

In honer of this thread, I will use PIMP instead of PIMF.

Preview Is My Pal

29 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:29:20pm

Remember - leftist progressive socialist fascist dems will always stand by their candidate no matter what. Even if the (D) candidate walks out on stage and starts eating babies.

um - Spitzer railed against prostitution. Now he's involved in prostitution. That's a very elemental definition of hypocrisy.

Schtoopid koos kidz.

30 trailortrash  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:29:58pm

what a crock

31 cartoonboy  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:30:11pm

partisan pardonation.

32 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:30:14pm

Imagining politicians having sex is like imagining parents having sex.

33 zhivago  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:30:16pm

Bubba taught em well didn't he.

34 zombie  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:30:19pm
...because it’s the Republicans who make it an issue for themselves by claiming to have an iron-clad commitment to pbserving these kinds of taboos.

Does this person even realize what they are saying?

Claiming the moral high ground for the Democrats by pointing out that they're already immoral, and thus aren't hypocrites -- man, that's some bad kind of craziness.

This person should enter the Olympics on the Logical Gymnastics team.

35 coquimbojoe  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:30:28pm

"...I chalk this event up as an (embarassing) personal failing, but as far as what the typical cheating scandal is like, to me this one is more like personal business and less appropriate as political news or a political criticism of him."

So, So, uh, mmm, stupid. Yeah that's the word. These Kostards have to work hard to be this dense.

36 Mich-again  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:30:31pm

Was Hillary pimping Spitzer for campaign appearances?

37 ThinkPiece  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:30:51pm

re: #13 Slumbering Behemoth

Somewhat OT: But since we're on the subject of the sex industry, I feel I must do some bragging.

Since I was nominated for an award, I recently attended the Adult Film Awards in LV. In recognition of my talent, I was given the award for my catagory: Best Solo Performance.

/I totally stole that joke and I don't care who knows it

Ah Ha! Here's your theme song, from the lovely Bernadette...

38 jemima  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:30:54pm

#17

I don't know about the Constitution but they could get him under the Mann Act (he probably never heard of it since it was a legal correspondence course that got him his degree, right?)

The United States White-Slave Traffic Act of 1910 prohibited so-called white slavery. It also banned the interstate transport of females for “immoral purposes”. Its primary stated intent was to address prostitution, immorality, and human trafficking. The act is better known as the Mann Act, after James Robert Mann, an American lawmaker.

39 jimzinsocal  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:30:59pm

After reading that from Kos? Jesus.
Roll the Twilight Zone Theme Charles.

40 ciaospirit  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:31:01pm

re: #5 Occasional Reader

Their argument basically is: We can't be hypocrites, because we have no moral standards to begin with.

Rush points that out all the time. With many examples. Because there are just so many to choose from.

41 Dahveed  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:31:04pm

See Spitzer is a Dem and Dems are there to help people. So Spitzer was in fact helping some women advance in their careers after being exploited by the male dominated capitalist system that wouldn't allow them to advance. He was actually not exploiting women in the sex trade.

42 Twilight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:31:27pm

And what would you expect from the leading moonbat blog in America?

Of course he can’t possibly be a hypocrite because he’s a Democrat.
Democrats and other liberals are the standard of all that's true and pure in the world.
Didn't you know that?

/sarcasm

43 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:31:28pm

My Lefty brother-in-law explained this to me almost ten years ago. It goes something like this: Republicans are hypocrites because they "judge others" and because they say that infidelity is wrong...therefore if they cheat on their spouses they are hypocrites. And, to a Lefty there is nothing in the world worse than being a hypocrite.

Democrats, on the other hand, do not judge people and they never explicitly say that infidelity is wrong and therefore can never be hypocrites.

If you have no standards you can never be called a hypocrite.

44 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:31:55pm

The Spitzer 2010 website now directs you here, though it's still paid for by Spitzer 2010.

No note of currents events. The most recent item was from Feb. 14, just after his joyride with Kristin.

He was happily throwing money around that day.

45 vxbush  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:32:15pm

re: #41 Dahveed

Well, sure, that works.

46 X-ray  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:32:15pm

He's not a hypocrite and this writer is not suffering Cognitive dissonance.
/sarc

47 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:32:18pm

re: #22 JammieWearingFool

"Kristen" said "that she liked him and did not think he was difficult." She collected $4,300 from Client 9.


Does this mean he was easy to 'top off'.

48 bulwrk  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:32:30pm

Setting the bar low means you're never disappointed.

49 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:32:38pm

The new Democrat motto: "If you dont stand for anything, how can you take a fall?"

50 Vero  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:33:05pm

Looks like that DEMOCRAT was screwing everything, including not only the hooker, but American Citizens by wanting to give drivers licences to Mexican fence Jumpers-

Not sure why this has made me chuckle out loud - but it sure as hell has, several times.

51 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:33:18pm

re: #37 ThinkPiece

Awesome! I used to have such a crush on her when I was a wee little lad.

52 alegrias  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:33:25pm

These are Kennedy rules for winning elections and influencing people, people.

I said on the other thread, Bobby Kennedy was elected to New York's political swamp, cheated on sainted Ethel and their 12 kids, what else is new for democrats with presidential aspirations>

53 jemima  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:33:29pm

What a sucky kind of day he's having.

54 coquimbojoe  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:33:30pm

re: #44 JammieWearingFool

The Spitzer 2010 website now directs you here, though it's still paid for by Spitzer 2010.

No note of currents events. The most recent item was from Feb. 14, just after his joyride with Kristin.

He was happily throwing money around that day.

Ya, know, you could really photoshop the snot out of the picture to make it look like something else was going on other than a town hall meeting. Just a suggestion.

55 Catttt  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:34:34pm

I'm getting a side ache from laughing so hard.

My neighbors probably think I've gone nuts. I'm usually very quiet, except for loud black metal music and an occasional meow.

56 GhostMaker  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:34:41pm
If you have no standards you can never be called a hypocrite.

Isn't that like "If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything"?

57 Blue Eyed Music Lover  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:34:41pm

Charles, you say Governor Spitzer was a democrat and former Kos diarist? Next you are going to tell me that Sen. Obama voted against the war, and John Edwards' father worked in a mill!

58 me  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:34:56pm

look, if the 5'5" brunette was hot, why not? I mean, what's a wife and 3 kids and being attorney general and governor got to do with it ?

I think it just made it all the more exciting to cheat.

59 Merovign  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:35:06pm

What is the world coming to, when the Governor of New York has to PAY to get laid.

Man, that's depressing.

Well, that and THE HYPOCRISY!

And the excuses, don't forget the excuses.

60 coquimbojoe  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:35:26pm

re: #54 coquimbojoe

Ya, know, you could really photoshop the snot out of the picture to make it look like something else was going on other than a town hall meeting. Just a suggestion.

Its one of the rotating ones, where he's standing in front of a group of folks gripping the microphone for dear life.

61 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:35:40pm

There was a video recently of a british actress/model who became a super high priced call girl.

62 ThinkPiece  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:35:43pm

re: #57 Blue Eyed Music Lover

Charles, you say Governor Spitzer was a democrat and former Kos diarist? Next you are going to tell me that Sen. Obama voted against the war, and John Edwards' father worked in a mill!

Don't forget John effin Kerry, who served in VietNam!

63 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:35:54pm

Kevin Drums, you reaffirm my faith in the KosKidz...

64 Whammo  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:36:06pm

Translation: Everyone knows we liberals are lying, unfaithful scumbags.

65 commander_vimes  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:36:16pm

Wait a minute. He himself said he didn't live up to the standards he set himself. So, presumably, he had some standards, right?

What I want to know is, who made him not live up to them. And before he rebuilds the trust his family had in him, doesn't he need to rebuild trust in himself?

66 eon  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:36:25pm

re: #29 FrogMarch

Not to mention the fact that prostitution is a longtime "service industry" run by organized crime- specifically, la Cosa Nostra in NY, although in recent years (after the hiding the Respected took in the Eighties), the various South American-related gangs have been vying for turf there, and in D.C. and Chicago as well.

So, the Koslings are saying that not only is marital infidelity and prostitution jake with them- so is being mobbed-up.

/No, I don't believe they've thought it through to that degree, as I have yet to see any evidence that they are actually capable of thought.

cheers

eon

67 anotherindyfilmguy  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:37:04pm

re: #17 ggt

But the Constitution is a Living, Breathing Document. Are you sure you interpreted the Law correctly -- I mean, you know, Life, Liberty and The Pursuit of Happiness.

///!

No one said you're allowed to be happy... just pursue it...

68 Spiny Norman  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:37:34pm

re: #52 alegrias

These are Kennedy rules for winning elections and influencing people, people.

I said on the other thread, Bobby Kennedy was elected to New York's political swamp, cheated on sainted Ethel and their 12 kids, what else is new for democrats with presidential aspirations>

Drunk driving and negligent homicide?

Oh, wait...

69 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:37:47pm

Maybe Kristen is illegal.

Just trying to pay off her medical bills, or something.

70 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:37:51pm

Might as well let y'all in on it: the Democrats are now known as the "Oh, but" party

71 EC Marm  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:38:44pm

The interesting thing about the two typos is that both fall under the category of 'keyboarding' errors. That is, the typist overreached on both letters. Was this Kos post dictated over the phone by the DNC?

72 JammieWearingFool  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:38:53pm

I was away for awhile, so it may have gone up on earlier threads, but did anyone note he was also on the Huffpost last August?

Love the opener.

Sometimes in politics, you think you've seen it all. Turns out I was wrong.
73 mean Gene  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:39:02pm

Maybe this is why HJillary couldn't get any traction on her attempts at sliming Obama.
Sure he used dope and he has ties to some creepy guy with a lot of money...what democrat doesn't?

74 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:39:29pm

re: #70 Capitalist Tool

Might as well let y'all in on it: the Democrats are now known as the "Oh, but" party

Damn, apparently Spitzer thought it was the ho butt party.

75 ggt  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:39:38pm

re: #67 anotherindyfilmguy

Spitwad was pursuing it. And paying a lot for the ride.

76 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:39:40pm

Was the $5500 (or some multiple thereof) Spitzer's money or NY Taxpayer money?

77 mich-again  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:39:48pm
"I must now dedicate some time to regain the trust of my family."

Good luck with that scumbag. What do ya figure it'll take? A long weekend?

78 loppyd  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:40:05pm

The Kos Kids need to understand that corruption is alive and well on both sides of the aisle.

There is no way to spin this.

79 badsysop  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:40:14pm

Whatever happened to Gary Condit? At least he didn't have to pay for his side action.

80 Spiny Norman  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:40:16pm

re: #61 Ben Hur

There was a video recently of a british actress/model who became a super high priced call girl.

A mainstream actress? I've heard of a couple formerly-famous porn actresses plying the trade for big bucks.

81 loppyd  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:40:23pm

re: #69 Ben Hur

Maybe Kristen is illegal.

Just trying to pay off her medical bills, or something.

or law school

82 Wookieelips  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:40:27pm

So not a hypocrit, just a criminal?

Awesome.

83 eon  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:40:39pm

re: #73 mean Gene

Maybe this is why HJillary couldn't get any traction on her attempts at sliming Obama.
Sure he used dope and he has ties to some creepy guy with a lot of money...what democrat doesn't?

Obama's on Soros' speed-dial too?

Shocked, I am, shocked!

/like h**l

cheers

eon

84 X-ray  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:40:47pm

re: #17 ggt

But the Constitution is a Living, Breathing Document. Are you sure you interpreted the Law correctly -- I mean, you know, Life, Liberty and The Pursuit of Happiness. a happy ending.

There fixed

///!

85 ggt  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:41:11pm

re: #84 X-ray

thanks!

86 EC Marm  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:41:18pm

re: #77 mich-again

Good luck with that scumbag. What do ya figure it'll take? A long weekend?


It took Bill a weekend in the Virgin Islands, if I recall correctly.

87 loppyd  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:41:27pm

re: #68 Spiny Norman

Drunk driving and negligent homicide?

Oh, wait...

Don't forget statutory rape.

88 ggt  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:41:58pm

re: #86 EC Marm


aaaggghhh!

89 Daisy  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:41:59pm

"But politically, he’s not a hypocrite, and it doesn’t have it anything to do with his politics the way it does for some others who got caught."

Aren't the Lefties the ones who came up with the meaningless mantra "The Personal is Political"?

It's always amusing when the Kos Kids Klan recants on one of their favorite mantras and in the process gets even more twisty.

90 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:42:10pm

re: #81 loppyd

or law school


loppyd!

91 loppyd  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:42:16pm

re: #86 EC Marm

It took Bill a weekend in the Virgin Islands, if I recall correctly.

Kobe bought his wife a golf ball sized diamond.

92 loppyd  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:42:38pm

re: #90 Ben Hur

loppyd!

BEN HUR!

Back to suppah prep.

93 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:42:40pm

re: #86 EC Marm

It took Bill a weekend in the Virgin Islands, if I recall correctly.

Warn somebody, why dontcha

94 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:42:51pm

Memo to Gov Spitzer.

Internet porn can save your life.

Buh-bye!

Cicci!

A porte!

95 ggt  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:42:55pm

re: #91 loppyd

"She'd better be worth it, darling."

96 badsysop  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:43:03pm

re: #78 loppyd

The Kos Kids need to understand that corruption is alive and well on both sides of the aisle.

There is no way to spin this.

Yet look at Goofy-haired Blogo in Illinois and you will see spin mode on "HIGH". Nice way to follow up a Republican slimeball... With a Democrat slimeball. Judy Baar-Topinka didn't look much better.

Illinois is one of the worst run states in the USA, and we're on the brink of having a democrat candidate for president that was neck-deep in that crap. Easy on crime, hard on gun owners, and real hard on taxpayers.

97 Morganfrost  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:43:29pm

Uh, yeah, that's right! Nothing hypocritical about being sworn to uphold the law while breaking it willy-nilly, as long as you didn't campaign based on a sexual morality platform.

Nope, nothing to see here. Move along folks.

98 coquimbojoe  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:43:38pm

re: #86 EC Marm

It took Bill a weekend in the Virgin Islands, if I recall correctly.

More nipple and ass from the Clintons than I ever want to see again. My eyes, she burns!

99 Thanos  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:43:44pm

Au Contraire DKOS!

Part of Elliot Spitzer's fame comes from busting upscale prostitution rings on Staten Island.

100 Blue Eyed Music Lover  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:43:51pm

I would like to thank the media for waiting until the afternoon to break this story, or else I wouldn't have gotten a blessed bit of work done all day.

101 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:43:56pm

Just had a thought
He is a super delegate i heard
And the POTUS wannabees are paying them for votes
So all the people that gave money to them paid for Eliot Spitzer's knob job
Hahahahaha

102 Merovign  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:44:09pm

I was just thinking - $5500 an HOUR?

What else can you do to get that? Even lawyers rarely get over $500.

Most people could get by on one hour a month, maybe 2 in Manhattan.

3 hours if you drive a Ferrari.

Hour 4 takes care of your 401k.

What to do with the other 476 waking hours?

I KNEW I was in the wrong line of work.

103 jamgarr  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:44:20pm

As if amoral is better than non-hypocritical.

104 profitsbeard  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:44:35pm

I guess Schmuck would be redundant.

Someone needs to invent:

The Democrat Zipper- it only goes UP.

105 coquimbojoe  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:44:35pm

re: #101 LeftJustAintRight

Just had a thought
He is a super delegate i heard
And the POTUS wannabees are paying them for votes
So all the people that gave money to them paid for Eliot Spitzer's knob job
Hahahahaha

Nice deductive reasoning - or fingering it out as it were.

106 eon  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:44:38pm

re: #99 Thanos

Au Contraire DKOS!

Part of Elliot Spitzer's fame comes from busting upscale prostitution rings on Staten Island.

Doing his own service providers a favor by reducing competitive pressure, no doubt.

cheers

eon

107 DeafDog  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:44:52pm

re: #11 Ben Hur

He's not the Democrat of New York, moron, he's the Governor of New York.

There's an oath.

Effen eff head.

At least his patronage went to a NT prostitute and not and "out-of-state" local prostitute in DC. So the argument can also be made that he was helping the NYC economy. Make sense? /sarc

108 VegasRick  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:45:08pm

re: #96 badsysop

Yet look at Goofy-haired Blogo in Illinois and you will see spin mode on "HIGH". Nice way to follow up a Republican slimeball... With a Democrat slimeball. Judy Baar-Topinka didn't look much better.

Illinois is one of the worst run states in the USA, and we're on the brink of having a democrat candidate for president that was neck-deep in that crap. Easy on crime, hard on gun owners, and real hard on taxpayers.

You just wanted to work that in somehow.

109 ggt  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:45:24pm

re: #96 badsysop

With the new Cook County sales tax, the suburbs are looking better and better. When will they learn, you can price yourself right out of the market.

110 spynverzyon  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:45:29pm

The best part is that the Kos Kidz really don't seem to care that Spitzer has admitted to committing a crime! Kos morality says, "So what if he's a criminal? At least he's not a hypocrite!"

111 Black George Bush  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:45:30pm

This Kossack is spot on. Nobody expects Democrats to have moral standards. My work here is done.

112 Fritz_Katz  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:45:33pm

Of course he's a hypocrite, not as a democrat but as someone who prosecuted prostitutes:

His cases as state attorney general included a few criminal prosecutions of prostitution rings and into tourism involving prostitutes.

In 2004, he was part of an investigation of an escort service in New York City that resulted in the arrest of 18 people on charges of promoting prostitution and related charges.

113 uptight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:45:34pm

When I saw the headlines on this, I thought Spitzer was some criminal mastermind behind some vice ring that the Feds busted.

But unless I've got it wrong, all he did was see a couple of prossies.

Jesus wept! What a waste of resources. I guess they can't tap Jihadists phones these days, so they are reduced to chasing public officials after a bit of "adult fun" with a local Tom.

Still - brilliant headlines ahoy: "Spitzer Swallows" etc.

114 DesertSage  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:45:49pm

Eliot Spitzer - DEMOCRAT, NY

115 iChef  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:45:50pm

Ummm He's a hypocrite ...

Governor Eliot Spitzer, Lieutenant Governor David Paterson and legislative leaders today announced an agreement on legislation that will combat the trafficking of human beings. The legislation makes Sex Trafficking and Labor Trafficking felony-level crimes and provides access to state social services for trafficking victims.



B. Clarifying in statute that knowingly selling travel-related services to facilitate prostitution - a business known as “prostitution tourism”- is the class D felony of Promoting Prostitution in the Third Degree.
C. Suppressing the demand for prostitution by elevating the lowest-level patronizing a prostitute crime from a B to an A misdemeanor.

For the whole thing: Spitzer's Law

116 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:45:54pm
117 coquimbojoe  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:46:57pm

re: #107 DeafDog

At least his patronage went to a NT prostitute and not and "out-of-state" local prostitute in DC. So the argument can also be made that he was helping the NYC economy. Make sense? /sarc

I thought all the NT prostitutes had been upgraded to at least XP. I hear the Vista ones are balky a many times don't do what you paid for. Apparently they don't like to play with the peripherals...

118 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:47:10pm

re: #66 eon

The left are not capable of logical thought when they are clouded by their own constant denial of the corruption in their own back yard. It's the same reason they do not accept Islamofascism. It doesn't exist. The only villains are political opponents like Bush and Cheney.

119 SDC  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:47:44pm

That slug Carville was just on CNN claiming that this is undoubtedly some sort of "Republican frame-up".

120 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:48:10pm

re: #119 SDC

That slug Carville was just on CNN claiming that this is undoubtedly some sort of "Republican frame-up".

haHA

121 badsysop  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:49:01pm

re: #109 ggt

With the new Cook County sales tax, the suburbs are looking better and better. When will they learn, you can price yourself right out of the market.

I'm sure the outlet malls in Kenosha love that stuff.

122 iChef  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:49:30pm

Oh yeah forgot ...

It's ""bush's"" fault

123 oh_dude  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:49:31pm
Kos Kid: Democrats Can't Possibly Be Hypocrites

Right, and chickens get gingivitis...

124 SusanL  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:49:41pm

It seems that Charles' website building talents are much greater that the person who creates the dailykos. They don't even have spell check.

I have been laughing out loud at this all day. All the lives Elliot ruined during his Wall Street witch hunts (I know there were bad things done, but really...), I guess payback is a bitch.

I know that my state government (Oregon) is run by the democrats and I know that it is corrupt (our sitting Governor had knowledge (at the time it was happening) of our former governors affair (rape) with/of a 13 year old girl. The media here won't cover it and won't push it.

I am amazed that this saw the light of day at all. I thought the slimes loved Spitzer.

Susan

125 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:49:43pm

re: #119 SDC

That slug Carville was just on CNN claiming that this is undoubtedly some sort of "Republican frame-up".


Yeah
It has Rove fingerprints all over it
Hahahaha

126 coquimbojoe  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:49:53pm

re: #119 SDC

That slug Carville was just on CNN claiming that this is undoubtedly some sort of "Republican frame-up".

Wacally webuplicans, making weak little Spitzer boy pay big bucks for whores. It all makes sense now.

127 doppelganglander  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:50:00pm

Charles, thanks for (repeatedly) pointing out he's a Democrat. That little trick of omitting the party affiliation for Dems while putting it right up front for the Repubs is utterly biased and tells you all you need to know about the MSM.

128 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:50:34pm

re: #119 SDC

That slug Carville was just on CNN claiming that this is undoubtedly some sort of "Republican frame-up".

Right, and they also got Spitzer to somehow publicly admit his guilt. Using mind-control rays.

129 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:50:34pm

re: #114 DesertSage

Eliot Spitzer - DEMOCRAT, NY

Spitzer is a DEMOCRAT? Are you sure? The media aren't really saying what party he belongs to. Now why would that be? How could a trust-worthy, unbiased, professional press not tell us what party Spitzer belongs to?

/

130 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:50:44pm
131 Spiny Norman  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:51:10pm

re: #124 SusanL

It seems that Charles' website building talents are much greater that the person who creates the dailykos. They don't even have spell check.

"Spellcheck" is "fascist oppression" to a Kos Kid. What are you thinking?!?

;^)

132 rappmandu  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:51:10pm

Kos Kids use pretzel logic.

133 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:51:14pm

This may have been said, but...boy 5,000,000 is going to come a lot faster now.

134 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:51:16pm

re: #5 Occasional Reader

Their argument basically is: We can't be hypocrites, because we have no moral standards to begin with.

Well... okay, if you say so.

That's what I figured they'd say, because it's true. Since they have no moral standards, they can't be judged by moral standards.

135 DeafDog  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:51:35pm

re: #117 coquimbojoe

Hah! That "T" is right next to the "Y" on the keyboard.

136 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:51:35pm

re: #128 Occasional Reader

Right, and they also got Spitzer to somehow publicly admit his guilt. Using mind-control rays.


Only Rove can do that

137 grumpy old codger  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:51:51pm

re: #93 Capitalist Tool
Yes, but that prostitute (and she is a political prostitute) that he's pictured with is not worth $4300! I'd love to see a picture of what Spitzer paid $4300 for. She must be fantastic!

138 talon_262  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:51:53pm

re: #99 Thanos

Au Contraire DKOS!

Part of Elliot Spitzer's fame comes from busting upscale prostitution rings on Staten Island.

Hell, it sounds like he was doing recon for some R&R down the road ;)

139 uptight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:52:11pm

And to be clear on this - YES I GET THE HYPOCRISY ANGLE.

But really, who amongst us can honestly say that they've never, ever gone out, got loaded, done a shit load of blow and ended up in a swanky Manhattan hotel with a roomful of municipally funded, high class call girls?

Let he who is without sin etc.

140 DeafDog  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:52:14pm

re: #122 iChef

Oh yeah forgot ...

It's ""bush's"" fault

Halliburton!

141 coquimbojoe  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:52:38pm

re: #130 song_and_dance_man

Hey, there's nothing wrong with stuffing an intern with a cigar in the White House, so what is all this then?

HAHAHAHA. Nice word usage for a delicate subject. I think you left it all to the imagination. Good job! Carry on. ;-)

142 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:52:49pm

re: #133 chubby vegan

This may have been said, but...boy 5,000,000 is going to come a lot faster now.

Today is already approaching yesterday's numbers.

P.S. Bill is client #10-#26.

143 jamgarr  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:53:22pm

re: #113 uptight

When I saw the headlines on this, I thought Spitzer was some criminal mastermind behind some vice ring that the Feds busted.

But unless I've got it wrong, all he did was see a couple of prossies.

Jesus wept! What a waste of resources. I guess they can't tap Jihadists phones these days, so they are reduced to chasing public officials after a bit of "adult fun" with a local Tom.

Still - brilliant headlines ahoy: "Spitzer Swallows" etc.


If I were you I'd rethink my nic.

144 eon  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:53:27pm

re: #119 SDC

That slug Carville was just on CNN claiming that this is undoubtedly some sort of "Republican frame-up".

That's a new record for The Mouth Of The South. It usually takes him a day or so to get his story straight.

/Although by this time, he's used that story so often he can probably recite it in his sleep- and does

cheers

eon

145 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:53:49pm

re: #119 SDC

That slug Carville was just on CNN claiming that this is undoubtedly some sort of "Republican frame-up".

Right on schedule - the democrat media template. Democrats are pure as the wind driven snow! It was a plant! Rove/Cheney must have slipped a mickey into Spitzer's scotch and wire-tapped him.

146 TMF  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:54:00pm
it’s not as if he (like the Republicans) touts his commitment to sexual morality—

What Republicans "tout" their "commitment" to "sexual morality"?

Nice strawman, assholes.

147 coquimbojoe  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:54:02pm

re: #135 DeafDog

Hah! That "T" is right next to the "Y" on the keyboard.

Yeah, I know, but it was an opportunity for me to be funny and use double entendres... I was funny, right? Right?! (Flop sweat beginning...)

148 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:54:02pm

re: #139 uptight

But really, who amongst us can honestly say that they've never, ever gone out, got loaded, done a shit load of blow and ended up in a swanky Manhattan hotel with a roomful of municipally funded, high class call girls?

Hey! I have never done blow!

149 Daisy  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:54:23pm

re: #43 Ringo the Gringo

"If you have no standards you can never be called a hypocrite."

Bingo!

Of course, if a Lefty decides to grow up and fly right - that would rise to the level of 'hypocrisy' amongst the rank and file Moonbats .

In Moonbattian culture meaningless statements like "love means never having to say you're sorry" actually mean something.

150 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:54:33pm

Can someone definitively answer the question as to weather Spitzer is a DEMOCRAT or is not a DEMOCRAT? I've been watching the MSM since this broke, and it's unclear to me if Spitzer is a DEMOCRAT or is not a DEMOCRAT?

So please, someone findo out if Spitzer is a DEMOCRAT or is not a DEMOCRAT?

151 DeafDog  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:54:34pm

Shouldn't KOS be more concerned wheather the poor girl had health insurance?

152 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:54:42pm

re: #142 chubby vegan

Just got here, if...

P.S. Bill is client #10-#26.

...that joke has been told 200 times already I apologize.

153 blangwort  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:54:46pm

Gosh, the Kos Kids just missed having a real point: You know, if Elliot Spitzer hadn't been married, I'd have shrugged my shoulders and asked why he bothered paying for something he could have had free for the asking.

The problem is that Spitzer is married. He violated his wedding vows, not to mention a law that he prosecuted others for breaking. If he can't keep a commitment as central and important as his marriage vows, what chance do the voters have in seeing him keep any other commitments?

Oh, that's right. He's a politician, and being a Democrat Party member, he gets a free pass to lie about sex all he wants. Never mind.

154 doppelganglander  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:55:02pm

re: #22 JammieWearingFool

Kristen the hooker liked him? I wonder what he liked? BDSM? I could just imagine a busybody, arrogant creep like him begging for punishment.

155 shibumi  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:55:05pm

Let's see if I can follow his reasoning...

hypocrisy
noun
1. an expression of agreement that is not supported by real conviction

Well, I don't know if the governor has spoken out against prostitution, so perhaps he isn't a hypocrite. Perhaps he also hasn't spoken out against murder, ergo, if he murdered someone, he would not necessarily be a hypocrite.

However, if there is just ONE instance in his career that Spitzer spoke out against prostitution, well then, he indeed is a hypocrite, since he is taking part in the very thing he is vilifying.

As for Democrats not being morally accountable because they, well, have no morals, I suppose that is a defense.

If you don't have morals, does that make you less of a human?

Does that absolve you of any action you might take?

Or does it just make you a sociopath?

"I'm not a sociopath, I'm a Democrat!"

156 SecretInternetDoucheBag  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:55:39pm

Has anyone called Rove a magnificent bastard yet?

157 rappmandu  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:55:47pm

"How can I turn this into a Larry Craig joke?"

/Jay LLLeno

158 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:56:10pm

re: #147 coquimbojoe

Yeah, I know, but it was an opportunity for me to be funny and use double entendres... I was funny, right? Right?! (Flop sweat beginning...)

Wipe that sweat away. Was very funny (in an amazingly geeky kind of way).

159 Big Wabbit  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:56:11pm

convoluted

con·vo·lut·ed [ kónv%u0259 l%uF816t%u0259d ]
adjective

Definition:
1. extremely intricate: too complex or intricate to understand easily
convoluted sentences

2. very twisted: having many twists, coils, or whorls
the brain's convoluted surface

/yea that's the answer

160 Sounder  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:56:30pm

So, fair enough. Don't dump on the KOZ Kids because they are empty headed. I mean, no one expected them to have any brains so it would not be fair to bring that up. Would it?

161 DeafDog  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:56:54pm

re: #147 coquimbojoe

You were funny and annoying. I am humbled worse than Yosemite Sam.

162 engrpat  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:57:08pm

How is it that when something goes wrong...like getting caught with your...in a tight spot it is someone else's fault? Morals, democrats, just don't belong in the same sentence.

163 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:57:10pm

I still can't find the page in the Dem's playbook on how to handle a John bust
Even bill Clinton couldn't find that page
Has some right wing conspirator stolen that page?

164 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:57:33pm

re: #154 doppelganglander

Kristen the hooker liked him? I wonder what he liked? BDSM? I could just imagine a busybody, arrogant creep like him begging for punishment.

I could see something poop related. Shit-eating grin might have a scarier meaning.

165 spikester  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:59:00pm

%u266A %u266B %u266A Love Client Number 9 %u266A %u266A %u266B

166 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:59:01pm

re: #156 SecretInternetDoucheBag

Has anyone called Rove a magnificent bastard yet?

Rove, you magnificent bastard!

167 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:59:13pm
168 ZardozZ  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:59:56pm

So what does this say about Democrats political morality if he appears to justify this behavior from a former prosecutor no less !

Talk about double standards ! Spitzer is toast... wait till the real dirt comes out... I bet it will make vaginal cigars look tame.

I am looking forward to the political satire and cartoons that will spin off this one for our blog. The news has been dull lately.

169 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 2:59:56pm
170 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:00:03pm

"I chalk this event up as an (embarassing) personal failing"

Embarassing? Why? Because he got caught? Because he's a Democrat and it embassases the party? My mother useed to tell me for everything she CAUGHT me doing wrong (embassasing the family and myself) there were probably a dozen other things she DIDN'T catch me doing!

Love Ya Mom,,, (and P.S., you were right, if not 2 dozen! )

171 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:00:15pm

re: #167 song_and_dance_man

If it was male prostitutes Barney Frank might be able to give him pointers on how to grease the skids.

Please... rephrase...

172 eon  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:00:35pm

re: #154 doppelganglander

Kristen the hooker liked him? I wonder what he liked? BDSM? I could just imagine a busybody, arrogant creep like him begging for punishment.

As a general rule, the command-and-control types are the ones most likely to be "into" D/S type "services", and be the ones who go "bottom". The flip side is, their actual personal relationships tend to be superficial, more artifice than actuality, if you take my meaning. Few of them have "conventional" happy marriages, but being sociopaths at heart, they can fake affection, etc., most effectively.

Which translates to "This has probably been gong on for years, but he had his wife and kids completely snowed."

/going back to my Abnormal Psych days

cheers

eon

173 iChef  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:00:59pm

Which party was holding up the "wire-tapping surveillance" bill? ... now we know why ...
/puts on the tinfoil hat

174 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:01:02pm

Gotta go.

175 coquimbojoe  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:01:02pm

He might just have to buy for a long time to come. She looks like she is calculating alimony payments.

176 nyc redneck  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:01:03pm

re: #86 EC Marm

It took Bill a weekend in the Virgin Islands, if I recall correctly.

and that wasn't posed, you know.

177 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:01:05pm

re: #166 Ward Cleaver

Rove, you magnificent bastard!

Karl Rove...is mighty

178 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:01:27pm

re: #163 LeftJustAintRight

I still can't find the page in the Dem's playbook on how to handle a John bust
Even bill Clinton couldn't find that page
Has some right wing conspirator stolen that page?

Look at Jerry Springer. While mayor of Cincinnati he paid for a hooker with a CHECK. Flash forward to 2004, he's a DELEGATE at the Dem cinvention !

179 Daisy  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:01:45pm

re: #119 SDC

That slug Carville was just on CNN claiming that this is undoubtedly some sort of "Republican frame-up".


Yeah. The hooker framed him. She must be a Republican since she's not providing sex @ "Universal Sex Worker" rates but at Free Market rates.

180 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:01:47pm
181 kynna  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:01:53pm

It takes a special kind of brain to put that together. A double jointed one.

182 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:02:05pm

From prosecutor to prostitutor in 60 seconds.

183 nyc redneck  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:02:06pm

re: #167 song_and_dance_man

Was it male or female prostitutes? If it was male prostitutes Barney Frank might be able to give him pointers on how to grease the skids.

oh NO, you did NOT say that/

184 eon  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:02:16pm

re: #156 SecretInternetDoucheBag

Has anyone called Rove a magnificent bastard yet?

See previous thread.

cheers

eon

185 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:02:47pm

A high class Brothel would like insurance of sorts
How long before the Eliot Spitzer tape shows up on You-tube or someplace else?

186 coquimbojoe  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:02:54pm

This is the most fun I have had in a awhile! Keep up the funny lizards!

BBL

187 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:03:00pm
188 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:03:04pm

re: #165 spikester

%u266A %u266B %u266A Love Client Number 9 %u266A %u266A %u266B

I took my troubles down to Madame Ruth;
You know the gypsy with the gold capped tooth.
She's got a shop down on 34th and Vine
Gave me the number; Love Client #9.

I told her that I was a flop with chicks;
I'd been this way since 1996.
She looked at my palm and she made a magic sign
You name is not Governor now...You're Love Client #9."

This day is getting better by the moment. Each verse takes five seconds to re-write.

189 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:03:12pm

re: #175 coquimbojoe

He might just have to buy for a long time to come. She looks like she is calculating alimony payments.

"He oughta be good for..."

190 Sommerfeld  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:03:33pm

So did anyone else notice in the complaint that the incident with "client 9" occurred on February 13th, 2008? The day before Valentine's Day!

191 coquimbojoe  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:03:33pm

re: #178 sattv4u2

Look at Jerry Springer. While mayor of Cincinnati he paid for a hooker with a CHECK. Flash forward to 2004, he's a DELEGATE at the Dem cinvention !

Was 'cinvention' Fruedian?

192 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:03:52pm

re: #185 LeftJustAintRight

A high class Brothel would like insurance of sorts
How long before the Eliot Spitzer tape shows up on You-tube or someplace else?

I already need some brain bleach just thinking about that.

193 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:04:07pm

re: #175 coquimbojoe

He might just have to buy for a long time to come. She looks like she is calculating alimony payments.

Gosh, she looks like Jennifer Aniston in 20 years!

194 nyc redneck  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:04:56pm

re: #187 song_and_dance_man

Read my rephrasing.

i'm still laughing too hard to read any rephrasing.

195 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:05:12pm

re: #178 sattv4u2

Look at Jerry Springer. While mayor of Cincinnati he paid for a hooker with a CHECK. Flash forward to 2004, he's a DELEGATE at the Dem convention !


It's like I keep saying - the dems have no shame. They applaud their own corruption.

196 Thor-Zone  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:05:24pm
You can’t even call it a double-standard for Republicans, because it’s the Republicans who make it an issue for themselves by claiming to have an iron-clad commitment to pbserving these kinds of taboos.

So what is this assclown saying?

Prostitution is OK for everyone but Republicans?

Democrats have no morals and that is OK with him?

The post doesn't make a lot of sense to me...what about you.

197 eon  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:05:28pm

Going off to check HotAir and MM.

BBL.

cheers

eon

198 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:05:33pm

re: #191 coquimbojoe

Was 'cinvention' Fruedian?

I wish ,, it was more like fat-thumbian!

199 DeafDog  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:05:40pm

A politician and a prostitute? That has to be a first!

200 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:06:18pm

re: #195 FrogMarch

They applaud their own corruption.

They are simply playing up to expectations. Just ask the Kidz.

201 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:06:19pm
202 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:06:37pm

re: #199 DeafDog

A politician and a prostitute? That has to be a first!


Wouldn't hat be called incest?

203 ggt  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:07:43pm

so, has anyone figured out why the FBI was wiretapping in the first place?

Was it the Mann act or something more?

204 bulwrk  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:07:55pm

I wonder if this will ruin business at the democratic national convention?

205 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:08:06pm
206 ggt  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:08:11pm

re: #202 LeftJustAintRight

doing it with a "hat" is incest?

207 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:08:37pm

At one point I had thought of doing a serious parsing of the text above, but I'm to friggin tired.

The punchline: It's a legal matter, not a matter of ethics, but liberals always define "sex crimes" not as crimes but as "moral" issues. In this way the attempt to prosecute anyone associated with "sex" appears petty and can be made to appear hypocritical -- all you need is one Republican who's seen a prostitute and the entire party is prohibited by the Iron Rule of Hypocrisy from ever speaking out.

The fact is, a prosecutor charged with dealing with crimes who is then involved in said crimes is a criminal. You don't put foxes to guard the henhouse, especially if they've developed a taste for chicken. But the democrats will do all they can to obscure that issue by harping on the "morality" issue. Hypocrisy is the "real" crime, and because they refrain from moral judgments (or better, don't try to impose their moral judgments on the rest of us) they can never be hypocrites,

The reality, of course, is that liberals make moral judgments constantly and are always trying to impose their morality on the rest of us. Their defense is that they are driven by reason and represent "progress." Their "moral" views are merely the appropriate response to current realities. "Morality" is a social construction, and if it is to remain beyond the suspicion of hypocrisy, it must be continuously changed to reflect social realities. Of course only the vanguard elite can correctly judge what the current realities are, and what the appropriate values within the current situation would be. They, the soi-disant politico-cultural elite, are free from the charge of hypocrisy because their enlightened status -- their alignment with the forward movement of history -- ensures that they are in a privileged position to determine what precisely hypocrisy is.

Conservatives will, by definition, always run afoul of the charge of hypocrisy because their "value" system is not progressive, but constitutes a barrier to progress. It is part of an attempt to delude and obscure the contradictions between their actions and beliefs and the fundamental social realities. As members of society, their actions cannot help but bear the stamp of that society -- in particular the psycho-sexual aspects (we are all libertines and homosexuals now). Their sexual morality must constitute a deliberate effort to deny reality -- it is always at least potentially hypocritical.

208 ggt  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:09:05pm

re: #200 chubby vegan

They are playing a game -- they congratulate those who can still play.

209 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:09:30pm

re: #203 ggt

so, has anyone figured out why the FBI was wiretapping in the first place?

Those illegal wire taps
Bush is too blame
And Spitzer will sue the telephone company for millions for allowing it

210 DeafDog  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:09:40pm

re: #202 LeftJustAintRight

Wouldn't hat be called incest?

Speaking of prostitutes, you know every news agency out there is scowering the planet to get the first interview with the girl. She will be a prostitute no more. She'll be able to demand a tidy sum to be interviewed on fox and maybe a book deal...and she won't need to split it with a PIMP.

211 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:09:40pm
212 Whiterasta  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:10:03pm

Is he going to do the public Man-Cry thing?

G-d, I just hate that.

213 ggt  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:10:38pm

So, if he travelled by airplane to get to his "date" isn't that bad for the environment?

214 spikester  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:10:51pm

re: #188 chubby vegan

"I told her that I was a flop with chicks";

NOW WHAT IS THAT SPOSE TO MEAN?

215 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:11:05pm

re: #202 LeftJustAintRight

Wouldn't hat be called incest?

masturbation

216 Pope Insouciance IV  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:11:06pm

This is one time I'll read the column by Dick Morris. If there's one thing he knows about it's Dems humping hookers.

217 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:11:07pm
218 Ackomanyuki  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:11:22pm

OK Kostatds, you're right, he's not a hypocrite. He's a sphincter, and a progressive... a progressive sphincter...you know the kind that get bigger the longer they are in positions of power...or is it ours, the people's who's strech larger from bending over for them. Really though, this is all redundant: sphincter/progressive vs. progressive sphincter...its all the same. Just plain Eliot Sphincter should suffice to get the point across...implicitly that is...calling him a hypocrite would just be a categorical detail, since we all know what progressives are.

219 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:11:59pm

Democrats are HUMAN
Republicans are DEPRAVED

/LLLogic

220 thepinch  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:12:00pm

So I guess rich, right-wing CEO's shouldn't be called to task for stealing since they're money-hungry mongrels who ignore morals anyways. I guess that should be treated as a personal matter as well.

I'm not sure how much extra it costs to be omitted from the 'hooker diaries', but my guess is if you're paying a bunch of money for a 7-Diamond hooker in the first place, you may as well pay a little extra to keep it off of the books; either that or just pick up a real hooker on the corner who doesn't know who you are.

And how about these wives who have to stand on stage while their husbands apologize for picking up hookers? I actually feel sorry for them in a way. My wife actually has some dignity so she would have castrated me way before I got to the microphone.

221 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:12:10pm

re: #26 savage_nation

Markos, proud of yourself now?

No, he wishes he had Kristen, but first he has to get James Carville to loan him $4300.

222 Jfundie  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:12:15pm

So he's basically saying Democrats have NO morals whatsoever, and thus they can't be blamed for being hypocrites. I can live with that statement.

223 spikester  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:12:36pm

re: #212 Whiterasta

That depends on what the fuckus focus group says.

224 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:12:50pm

re: #213 ggt

So, if he travelled by airplane to get to his "date" isn't that bad for the environment?

hmmm,, actually, it may violate some sort of state to state inter-commerce law !

225 ggt  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:12:59pm

I don't know about you, but I'm having some Soprano's flashbacks here. All the psych talk about sex for sociopaths. You know, that one guy with the toupee and Janice. Tony eventually whacked him for killing the horse.


euuuwwweee!

226 pegcity  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:13:00pm

what a schmuk

227 mrsoc  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:13:11pm

So I was basting the leg of lamb and I said to myself, "Self' I said, "isn't Elliot Spitzer a Democrat?"
"Yes,' says I .'Yes, I believe he is'.
Then I was mashing the potatoes and somewhere in the back of my head, while I was adding the butter and the milk and whipping them into a creamy frothy goodness-I heard a little voice saying, "Feh, that guy Spitzer, wasn't he a Democrat?"
"Why, I think you might be right about that."
Now I'm off to chop some garlic and put it in oil so the green beans will be crispy and delicious when I fry them. It will take about ten minutes for them to be done and then I will add some thinly sliced baby Bella mushrooms. I am pretty sure that when they are done-Spitzer will still be a Democrat.
Isn't life grand?

228 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:13:27pm

re: #212 Whiterasta

Is he going to do the public Man-Cry thing?

G-d, I just hate that.

A good open-handed slap from R. Lee Ermey would cure him of that.

229 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:13:40pm

re: #214 spikester

"I told her that I was a flop with chicks";

NOW WHAT IS THAT SPOSE TO MEAN?

Thats what's fun. I didn't change that line. Here are the real lyrics.

Really...


took my troubles down to Madame Ruth;
You know the gypsy with the gold capped tooth.
She's got a shop down on 34th and Vine
Selling little bottles of Love Potion #9.

I told her that I was a flop with chicks;
I'd been this way since 1956.
She looked at my palm and she made a magic sign
She said "What you need is Love Potion #9."

She bent down and turned around and gave me a wink;
She said "I'm gonna mix it up right here in the sink."
It smelled like turpentine and looked like Indian ink
I held my nose, I closed my eyes -- I took a drink!

I didn't know if it was day or night;
I started kissing everything in sight.
But when I kissed the cop down on 34th and Vine
He broke my little bottle of Love Potion #9.

C'mon everybody get happy!

230 pegcity  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:13:44pm

re: #225 ggt

I don't know about you, but I'm having some Soprano's flashbacks here. All the psych talk about sex for sociopaths. You know, that one guy with the toupee and Janice. Tony eventually whacked him for killing the horse.


euuuwwweee!


Raplhie

231 uptight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:13:46pm
232 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:14:24pm

This guy Spitzer didn't just do this once. You can be certain this is a regular activity for him.
The timing sucks. Why couldn't this investigation have happened 15 months ago, or 32 months from now?

233 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:14:29pm

Next we will hear that it was a Hillary leak to bring her numbers up with all the married women,pity politics i think i heard it called

234 ggt  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:14:55pm

re: #230 pegcity

yeah, ralphie.

It was a hilariious scene.

235 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:15:01pm

re: #233 LeftJustAintRight

Next we will hear that it was a Hillary leak to bring her numbers up with all the married women,pity politics i think i heard it called

She could cry again, too.

236 Russkilitlover  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:15:27pm

So you're not a hypocrite if you bust people for prostitution in your capacity of prosecutor? Or is that just managing the competition?

Pretzel logic again - libs and dems better stretch first before they speak - they're going to hurt something.

237 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:15:38pm

re: #217 FrogMarch

Boycott the Olympics.

You had me at Boycott..

238 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:15:39pm
239 pegcity  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:15:52pm

i dont get the whole call girl thing, u can open up the yellow pages and there are literally 6 pages of escort services

240 ggt  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:16:07pm

I don't get it. Would you want your face all over the internet --as a prostitute? Just what you want your kids to see in 20 years.

241 Whiterasta  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:16:24pm

re: #228 Ward Cleaver

Who dat?

242 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:16:34pm

re: #227 mrsoc

So I was basting the leg of lamb and I said to myself, "Self' I said, "isn't Elliot Spitzer a Democrat?"
"Yes,' says I .'Yes, I believe he is'.
Then I was mashing the potatoes and somewhere in the back of my head, while I was adding the butter and the milk and whipping them into a creamy frothy goodness-I heard a little voice saying, "Feh, that guy Spitzer, wasn't he a Democrat?"
"Why, I think you might be right about that."
Now I'm off to chop some garlic and put it in oil so the green beans will be crispy and delicious when I fry them. It will take about ten minutes for them to be done and then I will add some thinly sliced baby Bella mushrooms. I am pretty sure that when they are done-Spitzer will still be a Democrat. Isn't life grand?


By the next news cycle the MSM will have "proof" that all along Spitzer was a CONSERVATIVE democrat, who usually sided with the REPUBLICANS when it came time to vote, and always reached over the aisle to the REPUBLICANS at the annoyance of his own party!

243 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:16:41pm

I just got home from work, so I missed alot of the above. I just read that kos kid. Now I know why I could never be a Liberal. What kind of convoluted crazy logic is that. If I thought like a LIBERAL, I would end up walking around with a head ache all day long. I would go freaken crazy.

244 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:16:54pm

re: #239 pegcity

i dont get the whole call girl thing, u can open up the yellow pages and there are literally 6 pages of escort services

Me neither. I'm married, so I get all the sex that she wants.

Whoo Hoo!

245 Geepers  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:16:55pm

Thor-Zone (#196),

The post doesn't make a lot of sense to me...what about you.

You have to study up on your L3ogic.

246 uptight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:17:19pm

see also

courtesy of the wayback machine

247 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:17:27pm

#9 Dream - John Lennon

Ah! böwakawa poussè, poussè
Ah! böwakawa poussè, poussè
Ah! böwakawa poussè, poussè

/prob'ly been done already

248 mrsoc  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:17:30pm

re: #242 sattv4u2

By the next news cycle the MSM will have "proof" that all along Spitzer was a CONSERVATIVE democrat, who usually sided with the REPUBLICANS when it came time to vote, and always reached over the aisle to the REPUBLICANS at the annoyance of his own party!

Then he can't come here to eat.

249 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:17:41pm

Rotating Title:

Elliot Spitzer/DEMOCRAT

250 nikis-knight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:17:44pm

re: #14 WOHBuckeye

So busting prostitution rings as a prosecutor, then taking part in one yourself doesn't make you a hypocrite?

I love how Demos and the left find nothing that makes them hypocritical. Al Gore can soar all over the plant, leaving Bigfoot-like carbon footprints all over the Earth, yet he's no hypocrite. Bill Clinton can run on a rabid anti-sexual harassment platform, then sexually harass every woman who had the lack of intelligence to work for him, he's no hypocrite. Nancy Pelosi can preach greed and point fingers from her anointed throne in Washington, yet puts our country's security into the tank all so her trial lawyer constituents can make some bucks suing telephone companies.

Note to KosKid: Your whole party is a bunch of hypocrites.

A post too good to merely "+", so I'll quote you again.

251 eon  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:18:20pm

re: #242 sattv4u2

By the next news cycle the MSM will have "proof" that all along Spitzer was a CONSERVATIVE democrat, who usually sided with the REPUBLICANS when it came time to vote, and always reached over the aisle to the REPUBLICANS at the annoyance of his own party!

One more reason for Joe Bruno to have a good laugh.

Proof that the MSM is permanently and irrevocably stuck on stupid.

cheers

eon

252 godfrey  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:18:24pm

re: #248 mrsoc

Do you work for the New York Times?

253 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:18:32pm

re: #247 Bloodnok

#9 Dream - John Lennon

Ah! bowakawa pousse, pousse
Ah! bowakawa pousse, pousse
Ah! bowakawa pousse, pousse

/prob'ly been done already

durned characters!

254 BulgarWheat  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:18:36pm

pbserving

Is that some sort of kinky sex act I haven't heard about?

I really need to get out more,ya know.

255 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:18:36pm

re: #237 chubby vegan

http://emperors-spokesmodels.com/

Sorry, the site you requested is temporarily unavailable.
Due to high volume of traffic, this site is temporarily unavailable. Please try again later.


Imagine that

256 bluegrass boy  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:18:44pm

i just noticed the most wonderful thing at the top o the page!

lgf is sponsored by guiness!

at least their ad is up there...and its beautiful!

257 nikis-knight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:18:58pm

re: #34 zombie

...because it’s the Republicans who make it an issue for themselves by claiming to have an iron-clad commitment to pbserving these kinds of taboos.
Does this person even realize what they are saying?

I hope so, because if they try to re-read it, the spelling will probably make it impossible to decipher. ;)

258 spikester  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:19:40pm

re: #229 chubby vegan

Shoot! I used to sing that song on a band stand in the 9th grade!
I always thought it was "... hot with chicks";
at least later I wasn't singing "...Scuze me while I kiss this guy".

259 Dayenu  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:19:41pm

I've actually heard this argument before, used by anti-Israel kooks when they want to bash Israel, while giving the Arabs a free pass.

How do they justify this? Well, they claim Israel is a democracy, and should therefore "be pressured to act that way" so when the Israelis are acting "evil" the leftists should, y'know, call for Israel to be dismantled, yada yada, et cetera.

As for the Arabs, they don't claim to be Democracies, therefore they don't need to be held to the same standards. Which means, I guess, they don't need to be dismantled.

I never, ever understood this argument for one nanosecond, but they use it to justify their double standard.

260 Sean  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:19:51pm

DailyKos = AnimalFarmOnline.org

261 mrsoc  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:20:01pm

re: #252 godfrey

I didn't think there was anyone left who worked for the NYT. They say even the rats left the new building.

262 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:20:30pm

re: #258 spikester

Shoot! I used to sing that song on a band stand in the 9th grade!
I always thought it was "... hot with chicks";
at least later I wasn't singing "...Scuze me while I kiss this guy".

Maybe Eliot is singin

"I got the whole world in my pants!"

263 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:20:58pm

re: #260 Sean

War Eagle!

264 1SG(ret)  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:21:28pm

re: #243 Nevergiveup

I just got home from work, so I missed alot of the above. I just read that kos kid. Now I know why I could never be a Liberal. What kind of convoluted crazy logic is that. If I thought like a LIBERAL, I would end up walking around with a head ache all day long. I would go freaken crazy.

Sounds as though you pegged the Kos Kids and liberals.
Top

265 bluegrass boy  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:21:34pm

re: #263 Lucius Septimius

War Eagle!


come on!

266 mikeymom  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:21:51pm

before i stood on a stage beside my cheating husband, i would have called 911 cause he would have been bobbitized in the green room. gov-squirtzer--SPIT

267 godfrey  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:22:01pm

re: #221 Ward Cleaver

This is a job for ... $uper $oros!

268 Thor-Zone  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:22:06pm

re: #245 Geepers

Thor-Zone (#196),


You have to study up on your L3ogic.

I recon so...

269 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:22:28pm

re: #255 LeftJustAintRight
"Due to high volume of traffic, this site is temporarily unavailable"
All the politicians (both sides of the aisle) are having that one last moment with their ,,, ummm,,, personal ,,, ummm,, consultant before the service is out of business for good

270 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:22:30pm

Where is Master-Card?
If there ever was a Priceless Moment
Hahahaha

271 Hard Right  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:22:35pm

re: #29 FrogMarch

Remember - leftist progressive socialist fascist dems will always stand by their candidate no matter what. Even if the (D) candidate walks out on stage and starts eating babies.

um - Spitzer railed against prostitution. Now he's involved in prostitution. That's a very elemental definition of hypocrisy.

Schtoopid koos kidz.

He railed against street walker prostitutes. These were high class ones. Therefore it's not the same.

sarc/

272 looking closely  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:22:52pm

re: #137 grumpy old codger

Yes, but that prostitute (and she is a political prostitute) that he's pictured with is not worth $4300! I'd love to see a picture of what Spitzer paid $4300 for. She must be fantastic!

Coming soon to Playboy magazine. . .

You'll probably be able to get a nice eyeful for $5 (or whatever the cost of a Playboy is nowadays).

273 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:23:10pm

re: #265 bluegrass boy

Wondered if any of the dawg lizards would notice.

274 Racer X  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:23:17pm

Dude was just getting some poontang, paid for by the state of NY. Nothing wrong with that. Heck, he will be the keynote speaker at the convention in August.

275 pat  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:23:39pm

Another Deep Thinker from the Left. Sheeesh

276 looking closely  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:23:43pm

re: #139 uptight

And to be clear on this - YES I GET THE HYPOCRISY ANGLE.

But really, who amongst us can honestly say that they've never, ever gone out, got loaded, done a shit load of blow and ended up in a swanky Manhattan hotel with a roomful of municipally funded, high class call girls?


I've never even had dreams that good.

277 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:24:08pm

re: #255 LeftJustAintRight

http://emperors-spokesmodels.com/


Imagine that

Lookie at all this free exposure! If not for these pesky indictments business would be booming.

278 Hard Right  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:24:08pm

re: #274 Racer X

Dude was just getting some poontang, paid for by the state of NY. Nothing wrong with that. Heck, he will be the keynote speaker at the convention in August.

High fiving Clinton and Charlie Sheen

279 bluegrass boy  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:24:14pm

re: #273 Lucius Septimius

im just looking for equal time!...sec fairness doctrine!

280 godfrey  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:24:15pm

re: #259 Dayenu

What you've just described is perfect Multicultural Newspeak. Your future in American education is assured!

281 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:24:25pm

re: #22 JammieWearingFool

Well, he was apparently happily married and had three kids with his wife who didn't think he was all that bad. After today, I think she's now in agreement with the rest of New York (according to most polls), which shows them despising Spitzer and think he done an awful job.

282 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:24:28pm

re: #274 Racer X

Dude was just getting some poontang, paid for by the state of NY. Nothing wrong with that. Heck, he will be the keynote speaker at the convention in August.

Hillary's VP
Clinton/Spitzer08

283 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:24:34pm

re: #275 pat

Another Deep Thinker throater from the Left. Sheeesh

BAD SATT ,,, BAD BAD BAD !

284 Artiste  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:24:38pm

Forgive my cluelessness, but --

Emperors' Club Spokesmodels on the web? Seriously, what gives? These cannot be the actual girls. I must sound like the most clueless person on earth here.

Anyway, my reaction is not to call them "hot." I feel sorry for them. Even at $5500/hr.

285 eon  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:24:44pm

re: #261 mrsoc

I didn't think there was anyone left who worked for the NYT. They say even the rats left the new building.

I think all that's left is "Pinch" Sulzberger.

Wandering around the empty building with a fire-ax, doing his impression of Jack Nicholson in The Shining.

cheers

eon

286 mikeymom  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:24:49pm

#274--i've read every comment on 3 threads now-first i saw the word poontang

287 Tangonine  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:24:57pm

So did the idiocrats "chalk this event up as an (embarassing) personal failing?"

hypocracy? where?

All democrats/socialists/communists are traitors.

288 looking closely  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:25:00pm

re: #150 sattv4u2

Can someone definitively answer the question as to weather Spitzer is a DEMOCRAT or is not a DEMOCRAT? I've been watching the MSM since this broke, and it's unclear to me if Spitzer is a DEMOCRAT or is not a DEMOCRAT?

So please, someone findo out if Spitzer is a DEMOCRAT or is not a DEMOCRAT?

Well, since there has been some confusion on this issue, let's set the record straight here:

He's a DEMOCRAT.

/you're welcome.

289 bluegrass boy  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:25:26pm

re: #283 sattv4u2

BAD SATT ,,, BAD BAD BAD !

that would be barney frank, right?

290 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:25:27pm
291 1SG(ret)  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:25:59pm

re: #277 unrealizedviewpoint

Lookie at all this free exposure! If not for these pesky indictments business would be booming.

Site unavailable at this time! Reorg to Denver?

292 Slumbering Behemoth  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:26:06pm

re: #272 looking closely

$6.99+tx, just so you know.

293 ggt  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:26:40pm

Willie managed not to pay for it.

Slick in so many ways.

294 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:26:57pm

re: #286 mikeymom

#274--i've read every comment on 3 threads now-first i saw the word poontang

Funny, I didn't want to be first to say the word. But didn't want to be first to say it.

Poontang

295 sparrowlake  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:26:57pm

Spitzer's crime was that he engaged in an illegal act - period. Assuming the sexual favours were not some kind of political favour or payoff he committed no other crime. Participation in such conduct by politicians or others in positions of public trust is particularly egregious because the person then becomes susceptible to blackmail or other improper political pressure. The fact that he apologized only after he was caught renders his apology meaningless. The rest of the story about his wife's foregiveness and his personal morality is IMO a smokescreen and a load of sanctimonious crap. He should resign or be impeached.

296 CactusJack  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:27:07pm

one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

297 Tangonine  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:27:10pm

Apologies, I lost a line in my editing:

So ---when Rush Limbaugh had a drug problem--- did the idiocrats "chalk this event up as an (embarassing) personal failing?"

hypocracy? where?

All democrats/socialists/communists are traitors.

fixed :)

298 doppelganglander  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:27:14pm

re: #172 eon

I'm relieved to see that your insight comes from academic study and not personal experience.

299 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:27:19pm
300 bluegrass boy  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:27:40pm

that just occurred to me as well...you are the governor of new york...and youve got to pay?

301 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:27:53pm

re: #293 ggt

Willie managed not to pay for it.

Slick in so many ways.

Ohh. Willie paid for it alright!

302 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:28:24pm

re: #294 chubby vegan

Funny, I didn't want to be first to say the word. But didn't want to be first to say it.

Poontang

huh...sorry...looks like I picked the wrong day to stop taking amphetamines.

303 ggt  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:28:45pm

Well Lizards, the puppies want to be fed. You know how they are at dinner time.

Have a great evening and talk nice about me when I'm gone.

304 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:28:49pm

re: #288 looking closely

yes ,,, but then again ,, there are democrats and there are DEMOCRATS So I wonder if tonight the MSM will mention if he's a DEMOCRAT

ALSO ,,, I wonder if the MSM will have photographers camping out at wherever this agency is taking pictures, like they did of the mens room stall at the (Larry Craig ) airport?
Will 60 minutes and 20/20 do an indepth look at high class escorts and their political cliental, like they did the expose of men-men sex at public restrooms?

305 irongrampa  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:29:10pm

As I mentioned prior, the "reality based-community " operates from a fiction-based reality-hence there ARE no hypocritical democrats.

306 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:29:38pm
307 Daisy  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:29:38pm

re: #207 Lucius Septimius

Lots of good thinking reflected in your comments .. focusing on this: "(for the left) .. Morality" is a social construction, and if it is to remain beyond the suspicion of hypocrisy, it must be continuously changed to reflect social realities."

And this is how they justify 'improving" the American Constitution. The Left believes the search for Objective truth a fallacy .. which of course it would appear to be to those invested only in Subjective experience as a 'moral' guide.

This self-centered stupidity leads to the sort of distorted (and vulgar) hypothesis made recently by some moronic Israeli professor who proposed that Moses had taken a hallucinogen on Mt. Sinai, therefore implying that the 10 Commandments are actually hallucinations.

To put it mildly, reasonable moral discernment becomes disabled when all is Subjective and therefore relative only to another's subjective views.

308 mrsoc  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:29:40pm

re: #300 bluegrass boy

that just occurred to me as well...you are the governor of new york...and youve got to pay?

Double. In cash.No Checks, no credit cards.

309 pat  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:30:12pm

re: #290 song_and_dance_man

Barney Frank: "Spitzer, I served with Willie Clinton: I knew Willie Clinton; Willie Clinton was a friend of mine. Spitzer, you're no Willie Clinton."

/s

He was given a standing ovation when his homosexual prostitution ring was busted. Ewww

310 savage_nation[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:30:13pm
311 eon  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:30:18pm

re: #298 doppelganglander

I'm relieved to see that your insight comes from academic study and not personal experience.

Not half as relieved as I am.

Or as relieved that, as a former government employee, I never had to work for Eliot Spitzer.

/Some of the people I did work for were hard enough on the nerves

cheers

eon

312 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:30:27pm
313 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:30:46pm

When is the movie coming out?
Will a Baldwin or a Sheen play Spitzer ?

314 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:30:51pm

I'll again ask where are all the Democrats demanding that Spitzer step down because of his immoral and illegal conduct. They were quick to demand Republican US Senator Larry Craig resign for his wide stance in a bathroom sting, and here we've got Spitzer caught on tape soliciting call girls involved in an international crime ring, which is surely as great a cause for his resignation as anything Craig did. So far, the calls haven't exactly flooded the room. The crickets dominate.

315 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:31:26pm
316 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:31:31pm

re: #307 Daisy

reasonable moral discernment becomes disabled when all is Subjective and therefore relative only to another's subjective views.

And tyranny -- absolute and arbitrary rule -- is what follows.

317 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:31:47pm
318 spikester  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:31:51pm

re: #227 mrsoc

I just got back from ladling up a bowl of 16 Bead Soup, to which I had
already added garlic (thinly sliced and then mashed), tomato, chillies and
some nice smoked sausage so it too would be full of goodness, when I
asked my self...

"Why would anyone want to have sex with a spritzer?
That must be awfully difficult. That poor misguided lady of the night"!

319 looking closely  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:32:09pm

re: #255 LeftJustAintRight

http://emperors-spokesmodels.com/


Imagine that

Hey advertising THIS good is better than gold!
The prices have just gone up to $7500 per hour.

320 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:32:16pm

re: #317 song_and_dance_man

Howard Stern.

Nah, too classy.

321 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:32:21pm

re: #237 chubby vegan

You had me at Boycott..

I wonder if the Humane Society or PETA have an opinion? I'll do some checking. I implore everyone to e-mail the Humane Society, PETA, and any other national pro-animal organization and pressure them to boycott the Olympics in China.

(hopefully these organizations will do it despite the leftist nature to defend communism and Clinton's massive financial connections to the chi-coms)

322 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:32:38pm

re: #314 lawhawk

I'll again ask where are all the Democrats demanding that Spitzer step down because of his immoral and illegal conduct. They were quick to demand Republican US Senator Larry Craig resign for his wide stance in a bathroom sting, and here we've got Spitzer caught on tape soliciting call girls involved in an international crime ring, which is surely as great a cause for his resignation as anything Craig did. So far, the calls haven't exactly flooded the room. The crickets dominate.

Thats because the crickets are too busy going through their blackberrys and laptops erasing numbers

323 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:33:03pm

Hookers cost a buck 'o five.

Unless you're a politician.

324 bulwrk  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:33:11pm

With the news of a high class prostitution ring in NY getting busted up, has anyone checked to see if the flags at the U.N. building are at half mast?

325 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:33:50pm
326 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:33:58pm

re: #308 mrsoc

Double. In cash.No Checks, no credit cards.

Anyway, it's not like the Gov. of NY is any big deal. You got no Air Force One, you don't have them playing Hail to The Chief when you walk into the room,You can't blow the world up on a whim, if your daughter gets engaged-were she gonna get married - in ALBANY?

327 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:34:02pm

re: #244 chubby vegan

Me neither. I'm married, so I get all the sex that she wants.

Whoo Hoo!

Brother, looks to me like you're just askin' for it.

328 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:34:14pm
329 1SG(ret)  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:34:21pm

re: #324 bulwrk

The ring is/was in DC.

330 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:34:22pm

re: #324 bulwrk

With the news of a high class prostitution ring in NY getting busted up, has anyone checked to see if the flags at the U.N. building are at half mast?

no ,,, but I;m sure there are hundreds of foreign "dignitaries" who are (at half mast) tonight

331 beens21  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:34:27pm

there is a spinoff link to kos that says that pro HRC commenters are being banned from "progressive" blogs, and a poll that 42% at kos support such a ban. I predict that in November,the losing dem nominee's supporters will not vote for the other and may even vote for McCain.

332 mrsoc  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:34:44pm

re: #318 spikester

For money. Certainly his Beelzebub like face wasn't the reason. That's a nice soup you made there. On the other hand, if he's actually a spritzer she wouldn't have to worry about her roots getting dry. If it turns out he's a shvitzer it's another story altogether.

333 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:34:51pm

Spitzer will lose his law licence too i bet

334 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:34:53pm

re: #321 FrogMarch

Yep. They are of the opinion that George W. Bush is an A**hole.

China? Abuses? .
.
.
.
.
crickets

335 mikeymom  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:34:57pm

#303--my 20 lb maine coonie starts hovering around me at 5 pm--wants his shrimp as we eat dinner--yes i buy frozen shrimp just for him--better than a $5500 hooker, eh?

336 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:35:06pm

Apologies if this is somebody's spinoff link:

In other news today: Arraignment postponed for (Deval) Patrick aide charged with sexual assault.

337 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:35:10pm

re: #325 song_and_dance_man

OK. Michael Moore.

Babe! Let's do lunch! My people will call your people! We're talkin' mega-blockbuster, baby!

338 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:35:11pm

re: #326 Nevergiveup

too funny!

339 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:35:33pm

re: #327 Capitalist Tool

Brother, looks to me like you're just askin' for it.

Naw, if he is anything like me, he is begging for it!

340 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:35:35pm
341 Ackomanyuki  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:35:41pm

re: #218 Ackomanyuki

PIMF: Whose not who's

342 Catttt  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:35:42pm

Wall Street is smiling today - me too.

(this is from the NY Times business section):

As news that New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer has been linked to a prostitution ring swept Wall Street Monday afternoon, the reaction can be described in one word: schadenfreude.

The cause? Mr. Spitzer, for years the state’s attorney general, had served as the scourge of the Street, meting out punishment for a litany of sins like the Furies of mythology. Armed with the Martin Act, Mr. Spitzer took on investment banks, insurance companies and the New York Stock Exchange for their transgressions, giving other attorneys general a model for assuming the Mr. Clean mantle.

On CNBC, markets reporter Bob Pisani quoted an unnamed trader’s reaction, which spoke for the vast majority on Wall Street. “There is a God,” the trader was quoted as saying.

343 Plumres  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:35:43pm

Did anyone notice that you can read the whole story on CNN and it does not mention that he is a Democrat. When the story is about a Republican, it is in the first paragraph.

344 bulwrk  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:35:45pm

re: #329 1SG(ret)

oops

345 SpartanWoman  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:35:54pm

Eliot is such an ugly john.

346 spikester  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:35:56pm

re: #319 looking closely

The site is being slammed. cant get on. Not saying that I tried.

347 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:36:02pm

re: #327 Capitalist Tool

Brother, looks to me like you're just askin' for it.

Not askin' baby. I'MA BEGGIN!

348 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:36:06pm

re: #335 mikeymom

#303--my 20 lb maine coonie starts hovering around me at 5 pm--wants his shrimp as we eat dinner--yes i buy frozen shrimp just for him--better than a $5500 hooker, eh?

I dunno ,,, i've never had a $5500 frozen shrimp !

349 mama winger  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:36:19pm

re: #340 buzzsawmonkey

Why?

transporting a prostitute across state lines - federal offense

350 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:36:26pm

re: #343 Plumres

Rule of thumb: if it doesn't mention his party in the first sentence, he's a democrat.

351 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:36:48pm
352 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:36:52pm
353 WhiteRasta  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:36:52pm

re: #333 LeftJustAintRight

Not only that, he will be living under a bridge in an abandoned refrigerator when his soon to be ex wife's lawyer is done with him .

354 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:37:02pm

re: #339 Nevergiveup

Naw, if he is anything like me, he is begging for it!

GMTA, beat me by 30 seconds.

355 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:37:04pm

re: #349 mama winger

Transporting young gulls across a staid lion for immoral porpoises?

356 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:37:11pm

re: #343 Plumres

Did anyone notice that you can read the whole story on CNN and it does not mention that he is a Democrat. When the story is about a Republican, it is in the first paragraph. THE 1ST WORD, (and 3rd, 7th, 12th, 28th, ,,,)

357 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:37:16pm

re: #340 buzzsawmonkey

Why?


State bar for ethics and law violations

358 mama winger  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:37:38pm

re: #355 Lucius Septimius

Transporting young gulls across a staid lion for immoral porpoises?

Don't be goin' all PETA on me now.

359 LeePro  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:37:43pm

OMG!
That Kos stretch is just about the stretchiest of stretches I've ever seen in my lifetime! Not a hypocrite unless he told his wife he was faithful beforehand?

[GAG]

Shit! Really.

360 Meremortal  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:37:52pm

Haven't had time to read threads today, but just in case:

Happy Spitzmas!

361 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:37:59pm
362 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:38:15pm
363 mama winger  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:38:19pm

re: #353 WhiteRasta

Not only that, he will be living under a bridge in an abandoned refrigerator when his soon to be ex wife's lawyer is done with him .

He should be so lucky.

364 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:38:31pm

re: #347 chubby vegan

Not askin' baby. I'MA BEGGIN!

By the way, she thinks my nic is Lucius. heh

365 spikester  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:38:33pm

re: #332 mrsoc
"...roots getting dry"
Are you saying she is a Whorticulturest?

366 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:38:35pm

re: #360 Meremortal

Haven't had time to read threads today, but just in case:

Happy Spitzmas!

Happy Spitzmas! Whore is Over!

/finished

367 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:38:43pm

re: #358 mama winger

Don't be goin' all PETA on me now.

I'd never do that -- I'd falafel.

368 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:38:50pm
369 mrsoc  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:38:50pm

re: #285 eon

Eon-according to a friend of mine you are more correct than you know. It is a mausoleum. It would be cheerier if Pinch ran around with an ax-there would be something to laugh at. As it is the roaches are learning to type because the place is too quiet.

370 Nevergiveup  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:38:58pm

re: #348 sattv4u2

I dunno ,,, i've never had a $5500 frozen shrimp !

Funny, that is the same thing the pro Kristian said to elliot!

371 sattv4u2  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:39:14pm

re: #360 Meremortal

Haven't had time to read threads today, but just in case:

Happy Spitzmas!

Democrat Scandals ,,,the gift that just keeps on giving !

372 mama winger  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:39:25pm

re: #362 buzzsawmonkey

Did he go interstate on this?

New York to Washington DC. Babba is doing some nefarious digging. There may be more sludge under this top layer.

373 scaramouche  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:39:25pm

I say Spitzer was either unbelievably arrogant or he had an unconscious death-wish.

Both, perhaps?

374 1SG(ret)  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:39:58pm

re: #344 bulwrk

My question is, why would they need a high class hooker club in DC. Dual domiciles say anything about DC.

375 looking closely  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:40:09pm

re: #314 lawhawk

I'll again ask where are all the Democrats demanding that Spitzer step down because of his immoral and illegal conduct. They were quick to demand Republican US Senator Larry Craig resign for his wide stance in a bathroom sting, and here we've got Spitzer caught on tape soliciting call girls involved in an international crime ring, which is surely as great a cause for his resignation as anything Craig did. So far, the calls haven't exactly flooded the room. The crickets dominate.

Its not clear to me who is worse here. Both involved sex acts between consenting adults.

With Crai, its not even clear to me that what he did was illegal (eg soliciting sex in a public place), though surely it was in bad taste to do so in a public restroom.

Spitzer's act, though illegal, was at least private.

I say they should BOTH lose their jobs.

For the numbskull KOS diarist, the hypocrisy is that Spitzer broke the law he was pledged to enforce, and personally HAD specifically enforced in the past.

376 mrsoc  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:40:35pm

re: #365 spikester

"...roots getting dry"
Are you saying she is a Whorticulturest?

Bravo!

377 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:40:35pm
378 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:41:07pm

re: #374 1SG(ret)

My question is, why would they need a high class hooker club in DC. Dual domiciles say anything about DC.

Just wait for the real Who's Who of Emperor's Club aficionados...

379 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:41:33pm

Hahahahahaha
And you thought the OJ trial got a lot of viewers
This might even surpass the Superbowl numbers

380 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:41:54pm

re: #378 Capitalist Tool

Just wait for the real Who's Who of Emperor's Club aficionados...

I'm am almost afraid. Isn't there a list in DC that's still freaking people out anyway?

381 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:42:43pm

re: #378 Capitalist Tool

Just wait for the real Who's Who of Emperor's Club aficionados...

Oh to hear the words: "little black book"...

would it were so!

382 mama winger  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:42:44pm

re: #378 Capitalist Tool

Just wait for the real Who's Who of Emperor's Club aficionados...

Hmmm. A prostitution ring that involved upper echelon New York politicians and who knows who in Washington. This could get interesting.

383 Daisy  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:42:48pm

re: #316 Lucius Septimius

And tyranny -- absolute and arbitrary rule -- is what follows.

"Tyranny"/ undoubtedly what's on Mrs. Spitzer's "to do" list right about now :) .. and, more seriously, yes - tyranny is what would naturally (albeit crushingly) balance the chaotic results of extreme selfishness.

384 song_and_dance_man[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:43:01pm
385 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:43:19pm

re: #381 Bloodnok

Oh to hear the words: "little black book"...

would it were so!

Little Black Terabyte hard drive.

386 J.S.  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:43:53pm

re: #362 buzzsawmonkey

I thought it was the transferring of money (inter-state -- that is from New York to Washington, D.C.) for the commission of a crime that was the problem...(?)

387 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:44:04pm

Sorry for all the typo's guys, running on 4 hours sleep.

388 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:44:13pm

re: #17 ggt

But the Constitution is a Living, Breathing Document.

How about a warm and throbbing document, y'know, like the Bush letter?
/joke

389 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:44:34pm

re: #387 chubby vegan

Sorry for all the typo's guys, running on 4 hours sleep.

so was Eliot. less, probably.

390 LeePro  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:44:36pm

re: #335 mikeymom

Would you please use the "reply" button? It automatically creates a link to the post you're referring to — just like the #335 above. Makes it easier for the rest of us to click back to see what the original was.

391 Capitalist Tool  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:44:41pm

re: #387 chubby vegan

Sorry for all the typo's guys, running on 4 hours sleep.

Just walk a while then. We're in no hurry.

392 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:44:44pm

re: #384 song_and_dance_man

From the Washington Madam (or some crap like that?)

393 eon  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:44:59pm

re: #369 mrsoc

Eon-according to a friend of mine you are more correct than you know. It is a mausoleum. It would be cheerier if Pinch ran around with an ax-there would be something to laugh at. As it is the roaches are learning to type because the place is too quiet.

Actually, for me, typing roaches =ROFLMAO. (Old "Bloom County" shtick.)

Well, I'm off to watch a movie, and so to bed. Have to be up early in the morning.

Good-night, Lizards.

Sleep tight.

cheers

eon

394 rappmandu  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:45:16pm

$5,500 is roughly the average annual salary in:

Argentina
Belize
Brazil
Botswana
Costa Rica
Cuba
Dominica
Kazakhstan (very nice!)
Lebanon
Malaysia
Mauritius
Nauru
Panama
Romania
Russian Federation
Saint Lucia
Serbia
South Africa
Turkey
Uruguay
Venezuela

395 BBev  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:45:28pm

Is there a pic of the pro. I would like to see. Just of science ya know,..

396 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:45:41pm

re: #391 Capitalist Tool

Just walk a while then. We're in no hurry.

Rim shot!

Don't do it!

397 J.S.  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:46:09pm

re: #375 looking closely

hmmm...Craig, however, was dealing with an undercover cop in the next washroom stall. Spitzer was dealing with an International Prostitution ring (which was also, apparently, laundering money). Spitzer also had a "tab" -- he was in debt to said Ring...hence, the questions which immediately arise...

398 mean Gene  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:46:11pm

So, will they simply replace him with another super delegate for hillary?
Or do they pick a free agent who can make up his/her own mind?

399 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:46:16pm

re: #349 mama winger

transporting a prostitute across state lines - federal offense

Sounds like one of those antiquated restraint of trade issues, should keep prices down if you can expand the service area.

400 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:46:38pm

re: #343 Plumres

Did anyone notice that you can read the whole story on CNN and it does not mention that he is a Democrat. When the story is about a Republican, it is in the first paragraph.

Actually, it will be in the headline; first paragraph, and closing paragraph for good measure.

With a Democrat, it's time to play name that party.

401 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:46:46pm
402 chubby vegan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:46:54pm

Smell the fresh thread? It's over there...nods to right.

403 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:48:23pm

So if i am a Democrat I can...
-Have affairs
-Visit Prostitutes
-Lie Under Oath
-Rape Women
-Sell National secrets to the highest bidder

Am i forgetting anything?
I gotta go get my free pass card now before the election


/sarc

404 LeePro  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:48:47pm

re: #355 Lucius Septimius

Transporting young gulls across a staid lion for immoral porpoises?

ROFLMAO!

405 looking closely  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:49:07pm

re: #362 buzzsawmonkey

Actually, the Mann Act prohibits "transporting a woman across state lines for immoral purposes."

Did he go interstate on this? And does anyone ever get prosecuted under the Mann Act anymore? Holiday Inn might have something to say about that.


I believe it happened at a hotel in Wash DC.
He probably didn't personally transport her.

406 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:49:09pm

re: #404 LeePro

There's a joke that goes along with that ...

407 Perplexed  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:49:50pm

Amorality = you do no wrong because you lack the ability to determine right from wrong. Since you profess to do no wrong, your life is a shining example of perfection. Since you're perfect you believe yourself either equal to or superior to G_d the Creator.

Isn't there a mental disease that has those traits listed as symptoms?

This proves that liberals are lost and doomed to eternal darkness/separation from the Light.

Sad. Very Sad.

408 VegasRick  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:49:58pm

re: #394 rappmandu

$5,500 is roughly the average annual salary in:

Argentina
Belize
Brazil
Botswana
Costa Rica
Cuba
Dominica
Kazakhstan (very nice!)
Lebanon
Malaysia
Mauritius
Nauru
Panama
Romania
Russian Federation
Saint Lucia
Serbia
South Africa
Turkey
Uruguay
Venezuela

You forgot Detroit.

409 infidel dog  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:50:35pm

My G-d. How is society supposed to exert any control on people's behavior when half of the country seems to have moved beyond or forgotten simple everyday shame? Is the criminal justice system really the only way left? G-d help us.

410 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:50:58pm

re: #403 LeftJustAintRight

So if i am a Democrat I can...
-Have affairs
-Visit Prostitutes
-Lie Under Oath
-Rape Women
-Sell National secrets to the highest bidder

Am i forgetting anything?
I gotta go get my free pass card now before the election


/sarc

Steal from the rich.
Be superior to all you can see.

... and it's more like must than can, there's a continuing miseducation requirement for the card.

411 EC Marm  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:51:04pm
412 mama winger  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:51:23pm

re: #401 buzzsawmonkey

Seems the ring had a money-laundering component to it. Babba is dig dig digging.

413 spikester  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:52:15pm

re: #398 mean Gene

He's a DIM. He's not going anywhere. Well OK Denver in June?
I'm sure that if it came down to one vote for the nomination, HRC and
BHO would both say "...No. No. I must stand on principle"!

414 Sommerfeld  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:54:30pm

re: #355 Lucius Septimius

Transporting young gulls across a staid lion for immoral porpoises?

I seem to recall a punchline involving "immortal porposes".

415 EC Marm  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:54:40pm

re: #401 buzzsawmonkey
I don't suppose you've heard Obama's speech today? He can taste it now and wants nothing to do with the number two slot.

"I won twice as many states as Sen. Clinton. I won more of the popular vote than Sen. Clinton. I have more delegates than Sen. Clinton. So I don’t’ know how someone in second place can offer the vice presidency to someone in first place. If I was in second place I could understand but I am in first place right now.
416 LeePro  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:54:58pm

re: #373 scaramouche

I say Spitzer was either unbelievably arrogant or he had an unconscious death-wish.

Both, perhaps?

Probably neither. Most L3s are completely oblivious to morals, ethics, decency, etc., etc., etc.

417 Chuck Pelto  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:56:21pm

TO: Charles Johnson, et al.
RE: Moral Democrats?!?!?!

"...nobody expects Democrats to have moral standards..." -- Charles Johnson

I certainly don't. In my observation the concept of a 'moral Democrat' is a classic oxymoron.

I'm sure there are some people who call themselves 'Democrats' and actually DO have morals of the sort that REAL christians have. But they are DINOs...who have not quite figured it all out...just yet.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Those who do not know the connection between morality and politics will never understand one, nor the other.]

418 LeePro  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:58:45pm

re: #406 Lucius Septimius

If I guess it in 20 questions, do I get a prize?

419 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:58:52pm
420 looking closely  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:59:06pm

re: #397 J.S.

hmmm...Craig, however, was dealing with an undercover cop in the next washroom stall. Spitzer was dealing with an International Prostitution ring (which was also, apparently, laundering money). Spitzer also had a "tab" -- he was in debt to said Ring...hence, the questions which immediately arise...


The fact that he had a "tab" didn't mean he had debt to any significant degree, necessarily, only that he had credit (and probably was a repeat customer).

The point that Spitzer was involved with organized crime here makes his the more punishable offense, from a political standpoint. It doesn't necessarily make it the worse moral offense.

Craig only got caught in the bathroom one time. . .but he had undoubtedly been engaging in the same sort of activity for years, and there were also allegations that he had been involved with male prostitutes too.

In either case, this is more of a personal offense than a public one. I mean neither one was caught taking bribes or some such. Neither one really hurt anyone other than themselves and family.

But still, IMO, they both need to go. Craig because, lets face it, soliciting sexual acts in public restrooms is slimy, and unbecoming of the office. If you want to solicit them discreetly in public, but ENGAGE in them elsewhere, I could MAYBE cut you more slack. If Craig had been cruising gay bars, for example, I wouldn't necessary demand his ouster depending on the circumstances (though he'd still be hypocrite on gay issues and an adulterer). With Spitzer the ties to organized crime mean he's been compromised and has to go. He simply can't hold the public trust anymore.

421 saberry0530  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 3:59:34pm

re: #13 Slumbering Behemoth

Somewhat OT: But since we're on the subject of the sex industry, I feel I must do some bragging.

Since I was nominated for an award, I recently attended the Adult Film Awards in LV. In recognition of my talent, I was given the award for my catagory: Best Solo Performance.

/I totally stole that joke and I don't care who knows it

While learning some updated code and PC logic controllers back in a tech school in 1990, I had aninstructor who actually had a AVN Porn industry Award on his mantle in the school. "Tuning on a G-String" won the BEst new film producer Award that year. WE got a free screening one day during lunch.

422 ciaospirit  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:00:54pm

re: #314 lawhawk

I'll again ask where are all the Democrats demanding that Spitzer step down because of his immoral and illegal conduct. They were quick to demand Republican US Senator Larry Craig resign for his wide stance in a bathroom sting, and here we've got Spitzer caught on tape soliciting call girls involved in an international crime ring, which is surely as great a cause for his resignation as anything Craig did. So far, the calls haven't exactly flooded the room. The crickets dominate.

I made that point on an earlier thread and got this response from another poster: Craig insisted on drawing it out with laughable denials and legal appeals. Sorry, that doesn't give Spitzer a pass.

423 looking closely  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:01:19pm

re: #416 LeePro

Probably neither. Most L3s are completely oblivious to morals, ethics, decency, etc., etc., etc.


Spitzer knew this was illegal and immoral, since he obviously took pains to keep it from being discovered (eg paying in cash), and he had prosecuted such cases in the past.

This is hubris. He simply thought he was above the law and wouldn't get caught, and his arrogance has been a hallmark of his public behavior for years.

424 Lucius Septimius  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:01:23pm

re: #418 LeePro

Sure, but it's a crappy prize. You really wouldn't want it.

425 white rabbit  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:03:49pm

Yes, because that's all you ever hear out of Republicans: "I am more sexually moral than my opponent."

/Do I really gotta?

426 looking closely  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:03:50pm

re: #422 ciaospirit

I made that point on an earlier thread and got this response from another poster: Craig insisted on drawing it out with laughable denials and legal appeals. Sorry, that doesn't give Spitzer a pass.


It certainly doesn't and it doesn't (and didn't) give Craig a pass either.

If Spitzer now tries to stonewall his own resignation with laughable denials, you can expect the same sort of harsh public treatment for him as Craig received.

427 LeePro  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:05:46pm

re: #411 EC Marm

What she was thinking?

My photo caption (from previous thread):
#730 - different photo

428 Chuck Pelto  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:05:53pm

TO: looking closely, et al.
RE: And...

"If Spitzer now tries to stonewall his own resignation with laughable denials, you can expect the same sort of harsh public treatment for him as Craig received." -- looking closely

...where is Craig today?

Regards,

Chuck(le)

429 mfarmer1  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:06:01pm

I'm not sure what to think about that entry by the Kos Kid since it was essentially unreadable. Geesh, text messages from a twelve year old make more sense and have better overall structure.

430 GeeWiz  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:06:24pm

re: #153 blangwort

The problem is that Spitzer is married. He violated his wedding vows, not to mention a law that he prosecuted others for breaking. If he can't keep a commitment as central and important as his marriage vows, what chance do the voters have in seeing him keep any other commitments?

My problem with any married politician caught in a sex scandal. If one cannot honor vows to their spouse, how can we, the voter expect them to honor their promises to us?

431 rightymouse  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:07:56pm

"I chalk this event up as an (embarassing) personal failing, but as far as what the typical cheating scandal is like, to me this one is more like personal business and less appropriate as political news or a political criticism of him. You can’t even call it a double-standard for Republicans, because it’s the Republicans who make it an issue for themselves by claiming to have an iron-clad commitment to pbserving these kinds of taboos."

This is exactly the kind of tripe I hear from my liberal friends. They gave a pass'to McGreevey, for instance, but howled over Larry Craig. Go figure. So I scold my liberal friends about their own political hypocrisy and double-standards and tell them they would not be my friends if they lacked personal moral standards so I expect them to use their judgement wisely without feeling as though they were traitors to the Democratic Party by doing so.

432 gettinby  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:08:08pm

re: #360 Meremortal

Haven't had time to read threads today, but just in case:

Happy Spitzmas!

Ho - Ho - Ho

:)

433 Sean  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:09:19pm

Lucious Septimus:

War Eagle! Class of '88.

434 Chuck Pelto  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:11:33pm

TO: GeeWiz
RE: Hmmm...

"If one cannot honor vows to their spouse, how can we, the voter expect them to honor their promises to us?" -- GeeWiz

...are you channeling President Harry S. Truman?

He broke his promise to his wife. How can I expect him to keep his promise to me? [Upon firing a cabinet member for adultery.]

Regards,

Chuck(le)

435 razorbacker  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:13:43pm

re: #2 Ben Hur

As G-d is my witness, I was going to write on the last thread that the LLLs won't care because only Republicans "moralize" and hence, are the only ones who can be hypocrites.

Since the LLL have no morals, ooops, sorry, I mean, have an "Anything GOes" ideology (unless you are a Joo/Christian), you cannot be hypocritical.

There are worse things than being a hypocrite. An idiot, for example.

And I apologize to idiots everywhere.

436 joegosox  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:13:47pm

The Gold Standard:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

437 J.S.  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:18:50pm

re: #401 buzzsawmonkey

Apparently, from the newspaper reports, the violation of the Mann act occurred when Spitzer paid for a train ticket for the prostitute (thus, in effect, Spitzer was "transporting" the prostitute -- although, not physically).

438 Sean  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:19:48pm

LeePro,

My captions:

"All your $$$ are belong to me!"
"I'm gonna knock boots with every cabana boy, personal trainer, college intern on your staff..."
"Benjamin, I want you to know that I'm available to you, and if you won't sleep with me this time... "

439 grumpy old codger  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:20:00pm

re: #203 ggt
As the prostitute said to the senator when he advised the sweet young thing that he was above federal prosecution, "Why, Senator, I'm not afraid of the man act, I just adore it!".
(pun, not a misspell)

440 exredtory  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:23:40pm

#80 spiny norman:

"I've heard of a couple formerly-famous porn actresses plying the trade for big bucks."

Isn't being a porn performer already a form of prostitution?
Here in Canada the MSM likes to call them "sex-trade workers" which I presume covers everything from hooking to stripping to clerking at the porn video store.

As for the Dems, I recall someone (anyone have this citation?) in D.C. commenting about the failed attempts to prosecute the Clintons: Forget it, he said, they won, they always win. Let's move on.

Expect the same with Spitzer. That's how it works with the Liberals in Canada, too.

441 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:27:34pm
442 J.S.  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:29:35pm

re: #440 exredtory

I don't know...I've heard that it was the IRS (money laundering) which initially got the FBI involved (re: Spitzer)...Remember the Capone story...cops could never make any of the criminal charges against Capone stick -- it was the IRS -- tax evasion that put Capone away.. (I don't see Spitzer getting away with this..it's going beyond a mere "flop in the hay"...and it's the links with the criminal underworld here..)

443 GeeWiz  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:42:30pm

re: #434 Chuck Pelto

Not channeling anyone, just speaking the truth. LOL.

/thanks for the historical reference tho..

444 wanumba  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:43:32pm

Let's see: Democrat politicians can't possible be hypocrites when they are caught out with their abuses, so therefore they have to be just pure corrupt and completely amoral.

Simpler that way. Saves time at court by not bothering to argue the nuances and fast-tracks them to prison.

Excellent insight! Thanks Kos!

Feel bad for the family. What a humiliation for his wife and kids to be dragged into the spotlight with this. These selfish, self-centered creeps, who ignore their parental duties and spousal responsibilites are dispicable. And the Left wants us to feel sorry a la Brokeback Mountain - two sheepherders cheat in a spectacularly grubby manner on their wives and kids and the audience is SUPPOSED to feel SORRY for the two JERKS?

445 looking closely  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:43:52pm

re: #442 J.S.

I don't know...I've heard that it was the IRS (money laundering) which initially got the FBI involved (re: Spitzer)...Remember the Capone story...cops could never make any of the criminal charges against Capone stick -- it was the IRS -- tax evasion that put Capone away.. (I don't see Spitzer getting away with this..it's going beyond a mere "flop in the hay"...and it's the links with the criminal underworld here..)

There are three issues

a. Getting away with it, in the literal sense. Too late, he's already caught (and the fact that we're talking about it only proves that).

b. Getting away with in in the LEGAL sense. He might, he might not, but realistically Mann act prosecutions are rare, and in the end all he did was pay for a hooker, not exactly a capital crime. I'm sure the guy's record is squeaky clean. Even given an eventual prosecution, he'd likely get (and deserve) no more than a proverbial slap on the wrist (assuming there is no other "angle" to this story we don't know about).

More likely, he'd plead guilty just to avoid the humiliation of a trial and public release of the salacious details.

c. Will he manage to keep his office? Probably not. . .but then again, Craig did. I suspect that he'll be pressured to step down. Even if he doesn't, he's damaged goods, and his political career is effectively over.

446 exredtory  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:50:52pm

FYI, AP's latest (5th) writethrough now has Spitzer ID'd as a Democrat in the second sentence.

447 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:51:43pm

There is a slight problem. Since he paid for her transportation across state lines, he is in violation of the Mann Act. Its not a personal matter. Its a matter of violation of Federal law. They usually do not prosecute the johns when they do this, but if they want to sink him, they can.

448 rightymouse  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:57:53pm

re: #444 wanumba

This is where I believe the Democratic Party has lost its soul and the adherents have lost their souls as well when a Democrat politician is above moral judgement/criticism simply because he/she is a Democrat.

Scratching beneath their hypocrisy/double-standard arguments, I've come to think it has more to do with a deathly fear of being seen as unfaithful or traitors to the Party (group think). Republicans, on the other hand, tend to censure their own when they behave badly.

449 HoustonDriller  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 4:58:36pm

Headline: Clinton finds diaries on her (ad)dress; Spitz 'er out.

450 deacon  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 5:09:08pm

so the democrats do not have to follow the law because they have no morals. Makes perfect sense.

451 HDrepub  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 5:29:18pm

re: #450 deacon

so the democrats do not have to follow the law because they have no morals. Makes perfect sense.

Yup, it's perfectly OK for Democrat men to belong to the red-pecker club.

452 J.S.  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 5:33:43pm

re: #445 looking closely

Spitzer has yet to be charged with anything. (If he's convicted of any felony, he can't be governor). So, it's too early (premature) to make definitive statements. It's all speculation right now. but, I suspect, from what's in the complaint (this is FBI complaint against the prostitutes and the "pimp", and the booking ajents, etc), it does not look good (to say the least). There are all sorts of possibilities -- mob/criminal underworld connections? what's with the debt? how long was this going on? was he (Spitzer) being blackmailed? did criminal types have the "goods" on him? photos? got him by the short and curlies? were there some sort of pay-offs? trades of some sort? money laundering? political "favors"? (not to mention, of course, the hypocrisy -- but, I think this actually goes far beyond mere "hypocrisy" if he's charged with actual crimes) -- anyway, the possibilities are long, very, very long...I don't see him surviving.

453 Captain Hate  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 5:33:57pm

re: #22 JammieWearingFool

One delicious irony is the hooker was the first person to ever think Spitzer wasn't an insufferable, obnoxious a-hole.

She recognized a kindred soul; he just charged a lot more money.

454 USASupport  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 5:37:52pm

I guess running on a platform of being anti-corruption, and having been known for prosecuting prostitution in the past, and now being caught with a prostitute isn't hypocritical at all.

455 ArmyWife  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 5:56:58pm

re: #454 USASupport

I guess running on a platform of being anti-corruption, and having been known for prosecuting prostitution in the past, and now being caught with a prostitute isn't hypocritical at all.

well, morality being relative and all...

456 Spiny Norman  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 6:07:24pm

re: #454 USASupport

I guess running on a platform of being anti-corruption, and having been known for prosecuting prostitution in the past, and now being caught with a prostitute isn't hypocritical at all.

Of course not. "Hypocrisy" would mean violating one's own moral standards, and Democrats have no moral standards. At least none they feel obligated to uphold. I think the Kos Kidz coming out and admitting it upfront clarifies the whole debate, don't you think?

:^þ

457 ethanxxx  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 6:08:07pm

What a Prick! Typical liberal, somewhat Chappaquiddickal... Kill the babies, Save the whales... Smokes but don't inhale.

458 harley2002  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 6:21:35pm

Wow the Clinton excuse resurfaces LOL...

459 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 6:24:01pm
460 spidly  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 6:26:59pm

funny stuff. the only way I knew it was a democrat was by the fact that his political affiliation was not mentioned on the radio newsbreak

461 StinkHammer  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 6:27:46pm

I'm failing to see the relevance to these circumstances of the Kos poster's entire theme. [Go figure.] That is, why all the hyperventilating defensiveness about hypocrisy? After all, I can't speak for everyone, but I'm not seeing where hypocrisy is being touted as the issue at hand, here. Spitzer isn't facing possible charges for hypocrisy, he's facing them for breaking the law. Now, it can certainly be debated as to whether one agrees that solicitation should be a crime, but that doesn't negate the fact that as of this moment it is one, and Spitzer faces possible prosecution under those auspices. What's hypocrisy got to do with any legality here?

Seems to me somebody's had their stock "Lefties Can't Be Hypocrites" speech in the holster for some time now, and this is occasion they've (misguidedly) chosen to whip it out.

462 red ruffansore  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 6:34:33pm

Look, it's not the childish misspellings. It's not the idiotic syntax that defines all liberal rants. It's not the bizarre rationalizations that this rope smoking twit goes through to wind up believing that his boy had a momentary liberal faux pas. It's the fact that ALL democrats are liars, they will lie to you, their mother, brother and even themselves if it makes the hurt in their skull go away. NEVER TRUST A LIBERAL. They are rat bastards and this Kostard is living proof that the defeat of this cult religious/political abomination. For years the Spitzer's and their ilk defended the Clinton's like they were the second coming and now that he's committed a Billy (no mulligan's here lads), poor Elliot has found out that he is tread lube for the nearest bus passing by. Eventually Hillary is going to be thrown under the bus by her own party and that's when the fun will begin. Hillary will rend flesh from bone for treasonous acts and her party will pay for it in full. It will be good to show the world just what they worshiped for the last 16 years. I don't expect the chowder head class of democrats in this country to glean one iota of understanding from this all but I will surely enjoy 'feeling their pain'.

463 looking closely  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 6:47:32pm

True Craig kept his job, but its because he has no shame and his actions weren't sufficiently bad to legally force him out of office. His political career is over, though.

With Spitzer, I agree he's very unlikely to survive this one, and given the circumstances, the smartest thing for him to do is probably to remove himself from the public eye as soon as possible.

One other comment on the remark about porn acting being a form of prostitution. . .usually, though not necessarily. There are (or were) at least a few monogamous couples who only engage in sexual acts on film with each other. That seems more like exhibitionism to me than prostitution.

464 Hard Right  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 6:47:54pm

re: #302 chubby vegan

huh...sorry...looks like I picked the wrong day to stop taking amphetamines.

Poontang? Isn't that what the astronauts drank?

Looks like I picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue...

465 iWatas  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 6:52:18pm

Huge difference between Bill and Spitzer.

Bill may not have paid, but he played with amateurs, and he had very poor taste (remember his mummy comment?)

I still am in shock that Spitzer paid - but at least he got a higher class of girl.

466 svines  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 6:53:44pm

He may be a hypocrite if (as is presumable) he tells his wife he’s faithful to her, and he tells people that they should stay faithful to their spouses, etc. But politically, he’s not a hypocrite, and it doesn’t have it anything to do with his politics the way it does for some others who got caught.

Uhhh...what?
This has got to be the most painfully twisted logic I have ever read in my entire 55 years of life on planet earth! I couldn't come up with such a hair-brained, stupid, ignorant rant if I was being water boarded by Hildabeast and the "most eloquent, educated, personable, loving, wise, charming Obamameister."

It really has to be painful to be so dumb!

467 nigella  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 6:57:35pm

I have to love the Headlines"Scandal may put Spitzers political life in jeopardy."Is it just me or do you think if this was a Republican Governor, jeopardy would not be the words they would have used. It would read more like"Yet again another corrupt Republican is involved in a crime so heinous we cannot print it here. There is no doubt this is the end of this Governor, and perhaps all Republican lawmakers in this State."

468 beermeister  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 6:58:42pm

Just read on NY Daily News website that Spitzer's alias "George Fox" is actually the name of a friend and donor. Utterly reprehensible that he used a friend's name as an alias. Also bothersome is that most prostitution rings are tied to organized crime. And of course, NYers will just vote in another Democrat. They all walk in line like good little piggies. No disagreement, no argument like some have with McCain and others. Pathetic and another reason they cannot be trusted.

[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]

469 svines  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 7:10:45pm

re: #449 HoustonDriller

Ooohhh. That's a good one!

470 svines  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 7:12:29pm

re: #467 nigella

Nigela,

The Demoncrats NEVER eat their own, except in the primaries. When push comes to shove, they unite.

We Republicans need to remember that.

471 Scoobie  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 7:29:20pm

Eliott Spitzer out with a bang!

472 joan  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 7:31:46pm

Hypocrisy is not failing to practice what you preach. It is failing to believe what your preach.

Nicolo Maciavelli

473 blangwort  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 7:54:17pm

Spitzer fell victim to the same sad thing that ruins many political careers of both the left and the right: He let his ego get larger than his morals. Everyone was telling him he was so great and that he could do no wrong. So he went tried to see if it was true. That's how it happens.

The difference between the LLL and the rest of us is that they try to excuse this failing. Why, I even had friends on the left try to tell me that Larry Craig got a bad deal. No, he didn't! This wasn't about homosexual relationships, it was about lewd conduct in a public restroom. They tried to twist the whole thing in to a gay rights issue, with Craig on the cover.

I just don't get it. When someone gets caught acting like they can't do wrong, we need to drum them out of office. Not tomorrow, NOW! What next? Shall we give them even more opportunity to lie, cheat and steal?

474 e2thex  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 7:55:00pm

re: #113 uptight

We're
just having some "adult fun" here. Why don't you relax a little -- you seem a little "uptight."

475 NTropy  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 8:50:24pm

The soft bigotry of low expectations?

476 Chuck Pelto  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 10:11:59pm

TO: ethanxxx
RE: [OT] Speaking of Teddy

"What a Prick! Typical liberal, somewhat Chappaquiddickal... " -- ethanxxx

I got another one-over-the-world election-year e-mail from the good Senator. He was complaining about Bush vetoing the bill against waterboardiing.

I replied asking him how Mary Jo felt about his 'water torture' of her.

No reply from the good Senator...as yet.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

477 Chuck Pelto  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 10:13:33pm

P.S. For the uninformed, at least Bush's 'water torture' victims SURVIVE the experience. Mary Jo was not so fortunate that night with the good Senator.

478 Jeff S.  Mon, Mar 10, 2008 10:55:23pm

He's an animal! What else but this behavior could you expect from him?

/Mike Tyson's lawyer


It didn't fly then, and it isn't going to fly now.

479 ethanxxx  Tue, Mar 11, 2008 4:44:11am

So... I guess that what this KosChild is trying to say is, "AssHoles can't be hypocrites".

480 Chuck Pelto  Tue, Mar 11, 2008 5:33:18am

TO: ethanxxx
RE: A--Holes & Hypocrites

"I guess that what this KosChild is trying to say is, 'AssHoles can't be hypocrites'." -- ethanxxx

Pretty much. AND...they can't be called A--Holes either. In other words, you cannot call them anything don't care to be called. Sort of like the line that Chis Muir's cartoon series, Day-by-Day was following earlier this last week.

It all depends on how you define 'A--Hole'. Or 'is'.

Lessons in English from Mr. Bill.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Where there is no religion, hypocrisy becomes good taste.]

481 Mats  Tue, Mar 11, 2008 7:13:04am

mwahahahaa!
I heard the news here in lisbon, but only when I got online I could see that he is a democrat. If I were to take the MSM in face value, I would think that he had no political affiliation at all. He is just an "independent".

Hey, this doesn't look good for Hillary, but since Dems run the MSM, I am sure the media will spin this off, and use it for Democrat advantage.

Meanwhile, let me laugh a bit more.
mwahahaha

482 Lance o Lot  Tue, Mar 11, 2008 10:35:51am

My Lefty sister gave me the same argument years ago concerning Bill Clinton: Sexist type of behaviour should only hurt Republicans bacause we claim to be pious and righteous.

I reminded her that we should all hold ourselves to equally high standards.


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