What, Olmert's not good enough?

Juan, Juan, stoopid maan.

What the hell is wrong with our mainstream wire services?

Ask Cognito.

Anti-American professor Juan Cole has rather famously claimed that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was “misquoted” in his infamous “Israel must be wiped off the map” statement.

If MEMRI did the translation, I'd bet the house on it. Juan Cole? Forgetaboutit.

a repeat post...STS 126 Endeavour lifts off at 2:28 am

EST I think

What the hell is wrong with our mainstream wire services?

Nothing, if you're our enemies.

What's wrong with them? They're inhabited by mentally twisted, lunatic leftist anti-semites. Other than that, they're totally fine.

No...really...

/do I even need a sarc tag?

re: #5 hayseed

I'll be up and watching!

The Left promotes that "misquoted" meme every chance they get.

Of course, all they succeed in doing is reminding everyone how anti-Semitic and apocalyptic and genocidal the Iranian government is.

Even their phony "What he really meant..." translations are bone-chilling.

Every single thing the left does is counter-productive to their cause.

re: #3 mama winger

Oooo, I heard that!

{mama winger}

What do Reuters, AFP, and Juan Cole have in common? Same thing they have in common with Ahmadinejad. They are all Jew-haters.

On my web pages I have a tiny arabic to English dictionary.
The Iranian president was not speakingarabic, it was farsi whan he said Israel should be wiped off the map.
I link to this:
[Link: today.reuters.com...]
Here:

Mahv: A Farsi word, meaing "wiped off."

You continue to report that “Iran’s President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has called for Israel to be ”wiped off the map“” even though many Mideast experts have stated that the interpretation of what Ahmadinejad actually said was that the “Zionist regime will not last.”

In other words, rather than calling for ethnic cleansing, as your news stories imply, Iranian officials are calling for regime change—a common enough phrase these days. Are your reporters and editors deliberately misinforming the public?

Jan

We actually had access to this speech, and heard the president’s words verbatim from our own TV footage. We stand behind our translation. In this case, he used the word “mahv,” which in Farsi means “wiped off”: Editor

[Link: home.earthlink.net...]

What the hell is wrong with our mainstream wire services?

Maybe the editors are afraid their stringers know where the editors live. Maybe the editors are complicit. Maybe they're overworked and can't check all this stuff. Maybe they don't care.

Also notice the bizarre lukewarm language used by Reuters and AFP in their captions: a “pro-Palestinian meeting” with a poster saying “Israel must be wiped off the map?” A poster “featuring portraits” with no mention of the crosshairs painted on their foreheads?

What the hell is wrong with our mainstream wire services?

Well that's the question, isn't it.

It boggles the (rational) mind.

Why Nasrallah isn't taking a dirt nap right now is beyond me.

re: #1 Maine's Michael

What, Olmert's not good enough?

Olmert wasn't among those targeted for elimination because he's not actively pushing for Israel's security like Barak and the IDF and security chiefs.

Juan Cole will claim that they're taken out of context; they're Iranian attempts at sarcasm and irony. They're going to be used in the Mohammad al Brooks feature film Blazing Prayer Rugs.

They're Zionist propaganda and don't truly represent the will of the Iranian people.

Take your pick.

I'll call 'em like I see 'em - Iranians seeking to murder more Israelis and Cole will do his best to not only ignore the facts, but to actively support the Iranians and anti-Semites.

I had no idea there were so many stupid people in the world until I got into politics.

re: #10 goddessoftheclassroom

Oooo, I heard that!

{mama winger}

I'm in big trouble, aren't I ? :)

"So how will the useful idiots explain this?"

Photoshopped, By Jove, Charles !

re: #8 macintush

to see Endeavour lit up at night is just so awesome

The media is in such a rush to be anti-establishment, anti-military, and PC that they don't pay any attention to the facts right in front of them. They are incapable of rational thought.

Anyone know when these posters are to appear at Columbia University?

Also, note that the banner has English clearly written on it. That poster is meant for Western/US consumption.

They're not hiding their intentions.

re: #8 macintush

I saw a shuttle launch from Orlando, at night. The flames were throwing my shadow on the ground, 100 miles away. Totally awe inspiring.

The American way: Go big or go home!

re: #1 Maine's Michael

What, Olmert's not good enough?

Terrorists best friend !

re: #24 MJ

Anyone know when these posters are to appear at Columbia University?

As soon as they get the honorary degree printed up for the "artist".

re: #25 lawhawk

Also, note that the banner has English clearly written on it. That poster is meant for Western/US consumption.

They're not hiding their intentions.

Then again, is that a translation of what it says in Arabic above superimposed? Can't tell from the photo provided.

re: #15 buzzsawmonkey

Why is there an Odin's Cross on the heads of these Israeli leaders?

ROTFLMAO

re: #19 mama winger

Not at all--you're just a bit more tart than your usual sweet self.

(but I remember the background, so hey, I'm grinning here).

"no mention of the crosshairs painted on their foreheads?"

Does anyone really expect these idiots to know what "crosshairs" are?

Kos Kidz still furiously spinning for Spitzer, but many of the commenters aren't quite buying it.

re: #1 Maine's Michael

What, Olmert's not good enough?

Same reason why Israel never took out Arafat. When you have the leader of the enemy doing your work for you, why would you risk putting someone really competent in that position?

re: #32 goddessoftheclassroom

Not at all--you're just a bit more tart than your usual sweet self.

Oh shoot. I was trying to give up tartness for Lent.

another thing to confess ... LOL

re: #13 godfrey

Maybe they are too afraid to speak the truth.

The truth is an offense, but not a sin.

It is so much easier when all of your political beliefs are based solely on emotion rather than logic. Those pesky little facts never have to get in the way as long as you feel that you are doing something good.

Was "pragmatist" Rafsanjani misunderstood too, Juan?

[Link: www.iran-press-service.com...]

Juan Cole... recognized the power and authority of Baha'u'llah, but couldn't turn the Glory of God into a grandstand for Cole's own spew, so he drops away...

Cole: "Those aren't sniper-scope cross-hairs, they're ...uhm... ultrasound therapy focus meters..."

/riiight

Hi ploome

A spritzer, of sorts.

re: #40 dgax65

Excellent point. Darfur comes to mind.

re: #34 JammieWearingFool

Kos Kidz still furiously spinning for Spitzer, but many of the commenters aren't quite buying it.

Please, Kossies, stay on board the S.S. Spitzer!

Say hello to Davy Jones when you reach his locker at the bottom.

I've got to get some sleep, dear ones. I HATE DST! Take care and, if prayer is part of your traditions, say a few prayers for those Lizards in need.

Cole and Spitzer in need of Baghdad Bob's services - you are not seeing this!

OT - From a Kos comment...

"I still don't give a shit about the sex lives of politicians. Can hay be made of them? Sure. Is it politically significant? No, but it's a great distraction."

And then his/her signature quote says...

"A president who breaks the law is a threat to the very structure of our government...President Bush has repeatedly violated the law for six years." Al Gore

Do any of them see the irony?

Walter in Golden, Co.

'portraits'?

Sick bunch of journalists terrorists.

re: #40 dgax65

Weird is becoming normal for me. Today I was in a meeting, and one guy there just had to let fly some gratuitous barb at W. It was if, if he hadn't done that, the world would seem hostile and alien to him. All these insults are thrown around to get a reaction that reassures him his opinions are sound. It was that feeling he craved, more than anything else. And that made him someone to be pitied.

I feel no joy with spitzer ruining his and his families lives. it's just sad to see what people do to themselves and thier families

re: #49 ploome hineni

you have reservations?

I don't know about Buzz, but I have reservations about a lot of things.

I guess the newsies of the world want to convince us that its WE who are on the wrong side..if only we would throw Isreal under the bus, all would be right with the world?
Cant quite understand the mindset involved.
Then again maybe not too much thought went into it.

Why is "execution" in quotes?

re: #53 Walter L. Newton

OT - From a Kos comment...

"I still don't give a shit about the sex lives of politicians. Can hay be made of them? Sure. Is it politically significant? No, but it's a great distraction."

And then his/her signature quote says...

"A president who breaks the law is a threat to the very structure of our government...President Bush has repeatedly violated the law for six years." Al Gore

Do any of them see the irony?

Walter in Golden, Co.

WAIT , WAit for it aaa ... no

One last time for you Spitzer fans.

Eliot stars in...

What the hell is wrong with our mainstream wire services?

An ugly convergence of left-wing cultural relativist ideology and lots of Arab oil money.

"SS Spitzer, now boarding for Hell, Ocean Floor, Depths of Perdition, Gross Hypocrisy and all points inbetween!"

...stay on board the S.S. Spitzer!

"Please have your tickets ready, and get your tickets punched!"

holy cow! a Kos Kid posted this

Obviously. I too, do not care about politician's sex lives. I do care when they break the law. I do care when they break the law after they've made part of their reputation by going after two prostitution rings and then get caught up using a third. It goes to honesty, integrity and ... oh yeah, breaking the law. Face it, if a republican had done this, most of us would be all over it.

wonder if he''l stick to this POV with Obama's Rezco involvement or take a second look at the über corrupt clintons

nah

re: #53 Walter L. Newton

In a word, the answer is no. They don't see the irony or that a crime has even been committed.

Let's not forget the ethical and legal problems involved either. Or the suspicious money transfers.

I'd say the prix is fixe for Spitz at a lot more than $5500.

re: #5 hayseed

a repeat post...STS 126 Endeavour lifts off at 2:28 am

EST I think

I hear you Hayseed, it will be spectacular, but I will be dead asleep when she lifts. Maybe some of you west coasters might get to view the launch live, but I will catch this one on Youtube...

re: #67 godfrey

I'd say the prix is fixe for Spitz at a lot more than $5500.

Was it 5500 for an hour or for a night?

I like the second caption, it refers to the assassainations as "murder". They could have used much more wishy-washy language.

re: #53 Walter L. Newton

OT - From a Kos comment...

"I still don't give a shit about the sex lives of politicians. Can hay be made of them? Sure. Is it politically significant? No, but it's a great distraction."

And then his/her signature quote says...

"A president who breaks the law is a threat to the very structure of our government...President Bush has repeatedly violated the law for six years." Al Gore

Do any of them see the irony?

Walter in Golden, Co.

I see the morony.

Is this the 5 millionth comment?

Did I get it?
Huh?
Huh?

re: #66 lawhawk

I'm feeling Martini lazy, lawhawk. Break it down for an old dog: is the allegation that Spitz was making money from the ring? Were the transfers to him, or from him, or through him?

re: #66 lawhawk

Suspicious money transfers, no moral standards to live up to, breaking the law by agreeing to use services of a prostitute... but "Spitzer didn't do ANYTHING wrong..."

/unlike President Bush...

What the hell is wrong with our mainstream wire services?

They intentionally and willfully have their collective heads implanted so far up their ass, they can taste their own spleens!

re: #73 ploome hineni

Is that all there is? There's the Hillary angle, too. Isn't there some connection there?

"What the hell is wrong with mainstream wire services?"

They are no longer mainstream. A trend that was exposed when it was revealed that CNN had gone in the tank for Saddam Hussein in a bid to maintain "access" The MSM use of cheap stringers in arab countries so that they can save the cost of hiring a 'real' reporter has lead them to become shills for islamists. Add to that their inherent bias against the US and the west, and you have the perfect media storm.

Just catching up after a long day at work. I've seen a couple links that the Fed wiretap on Spitzer resulted from his bank reporting multiple large cash tranasctions; so this wasn't, pardon the expression, just one shot.
What a sleaze.
What else did I miss?

re: #72 DesertSage

Is this the 5 millionth comment?

Did I get it?
Huh?
Huh?

Self Projection doesn't become you SAge

(HUGE SMILE)

re: #40 dgax65

It is so much easier when all of your political beliefs are based solely on emotion rather than logic. Those pesky little facts never have to get in the way as long as you feel that you are doing something good.

With nary a thought of the unintended consequences that might come about.

re: #75 ploome hineni

Crow, frite.

re: #73 ploome hineni

4300$ for a romp...crikey

For that kind of ca$h, it had better have some freakin' talent associated with it! And it had better sing!

re: #82 ploome hineni

What bumps you up for promotion in an outfit like that? Sheer volume? Or gold stars on little customer satisfaction cards?

re: #85 6pat6

For that kind of ca$h, it had better have some freakin' talent associated with it! And it had better sing!

Oh...she will sing!

spitzer?

Young?

his face looks like it is in stage 3 mummification to me.

all he needs is a monicle and a heidelberg scar and he could pass for a Nazi

re: #82 ploome hineni

an hour

/depends on her level...was she a 3 diamond excort or a 7 diamond escort

you should see the web site

try through the wayback machine

Has the site been taken down, I am interested, and not just for the politics!

/Way out of my price range!

re: #86 ploome hineni

It was your Paglia moment, and I blew it. Win some, lose some.

re: #69 NoSubmission

Earlier press releases said, "$5,500 per HOUR was top rate..." and Swizzle-Stick Spitzer opted for a "$4,300 per hour" rate...

/we laughed, because for that he could have flown to Bangkok, had three nubile, willing and cooperative 'therapists' to 'relieve his tension'; and flown back, first class... New York has direct flights BKK, NoSub...

re: #95 ploome hineni

You're livin' the dream, ploomie girl.

re: #96 ploome hineni

site is overloaded, try through the internet archives, the wayback machine

This is not recent. A news article said the site was taken down a while ago, after the initial story broke about the ring.

Walter in Golden, Co.

Just think of being Spitzer and having to admit you had to pay $4300 to get laid. Note to Spitzer : You can walk in a bar with $40 after 12:30AM

So, i guess it wouldn't be cool for us to take up a, err collection for someone knock off Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, and here i was going to kick in $5

But that would be totally the most foolish $5 spent, as Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is the best thing for showing what an Asshat county Iran and their leadership is - My $5 going into the kitty would be better spent buying the best microphone money can buy, for him to keep yakking.

re: #73 ploome hineni

All the time he was building up his career and image as Mr. Law and Order, it never occored to him that he might, just possibly have made enemies.

Pride goeth, before a fall.

A smart guy, but a dumb tool. Just wait till his wife is done with him.

I'm hoping he does the public Man-Cry thing.

re: #82 ploome hineni

an hour
/depends on her level...was she a 3 diamond excort or a 7 diamond escort
you should see the web site

try through the wayback machine

is there a link? [do i really need to see this?]
5500 for an hour. seriously. what on earth can be done that is worth that much money? it's comic.

re: #99 mikeinmd

Just think of being Spitzer and having to admit you had to pay $4300 to get laid. Note to Spitzer : You can walk in a bar with $40 after 12:30AM

Link and address please :)

Walter in Golden, Co.

karridine

$4300? What a cheapskate.

re: #94 Karridine

we laughed, because for that he could have flown to Bangkok, had three nubile, willing and cooperative 'therapists' to 'relieve his tension'; and flown back, first class... New York has direct flights BKK, NoSub...

Well, when a guy of his "stature" lives in NY, he has to do what he can to keep the local economy humming along, so to speak.

re: #89 DesertSage

Oh...she will sing!

Or, at the very least, hum.

Are we there yet, buzz? LOL!

re: #100 ploome hineni

She does try pretty hard, doesn't she. But you know, she's getting paid. I figure, if she gets two or three zingers out of a three-click article, that's enough to keep her afloat. But what do you want? She's one of Harold Bloom's students.

These people are poorly educated and heavily propogandasized. The Juan Cole types are actually malignant personality types who have objectives that they wish to achieve through deceit. I actually think they are psychologically perverted and could use some Scientology training.

There is a greater psychosis occuring in the MSM and the large institutions of the world that tilts them to anti-semitism to fit their idea of political correctedness. Politicial correctedness based on it's actual output should be labeled and tried as "hate crimes" against humanity.

re: #107 buzzsawmonkey

I have to pee. Can we stop?

re: #107 buzzsawmonkey

Enough with the "Is this the five millionth comment? Huh? Huh?" posts, already.

The tally suggests we've got several thousand to go. The "are we there yet" posts are as annoying as "firsts" used to be.

Was that the five millionth comment?

Or is this one it?

is it me ? is it me ? is it me ?

re: #74 godfrey

Nope, the allegations are that he was paying for sex, but his name came up because of transfers of significant amounts of cash:

The federal investigation of a New York prostitution ring was triggered by Gov. Eliot Spitzer's suspicious money transfers, initially leading agents to believe Spitzer was hiding bribes, according to federal officials.

Wife and I don't think of ourselves as rich but we are- we both work and mqke a very comfortable combined income, but still cut coupons, and drive ten year old cars. The immorality aside, I can't imagine shelling out $4K for an hour with anybody. Did he really get $4000 worth of satisfaction? Or did he feel guilty afterwards?

Thanks, Ploome, This is what I got: "Data Retrieval Failure". But I have book marked the site for further research...

re: #113 godfrey

I have to pee. Can we stop?

Water sports cost extra.

Walter in Golden, Co.

re: #114 mama winger

You sit down, or I pull this thread over right now.

re: #119 godfrey

You sit down, or I pull this thread over right now.

I am not annoying you, am I ?

well am I?

re: #99 mikeinmd

Just think of being Spitzer and having to admit you had to pay $4300 to get laid. Note to Spitzer : You can walk in a bar with $40 after 12:30AM

Or if you're Governor of Arkansas, just go trolling through trailer parks.

re: #104 Walter L. Newton

[Link: www.yellowpages.com...]

re: #115 lawhawk

Yeah, which should make the NYPD shrug and say, "yeah, kinda like a dirty cop. He's not taking bribes, he's in on the action."

re: #107 buzzsawmonkey

The poster who scores the 5 millionth post, gets 5 million dollars.

Compliments of the Zionist Lizard Cabal.

Didn't you know that?

Dear Juan Cole,

I thought the images of the people leaping from the Towers would have resolved the question as to whose side the USA supports in the middle east?

/Did I miss something?

What's wrong with the MSM? They're a bunch of Jew-hating bastards, that's what. And they're stupid. And arrogant. And enemies of all that is decency and good sense.

I'm really in a cranky mood, can you tell?

re: #122 mama winger

Did you get my answer to your Greek question?

re: #121 ploome hineni

I'm in my forties. It's at least twenty years until Depends.

re: #128 Lucius Septimius

What's wrong with the MSM? They're a bunch of Jew-hating bastards, that's what. And they're stupid. And arrogant. And enemies of all that is decency and good sense.

I'm really in a cranky mood, can you tell?

So now wouldn't be a good time to ask you how your kids are?

Look, do I have to spell it out for you people? The Iranians are misquoting themselves.

XXXOOO,

Juan Cole

re: #128 Lucius Septimius

What's wrong with the MSM? They're a bunch of Jew-hating bastards, that's what. And they're stupid. And arrogant. And enemies of all that is decency and good sense.

I'm really in a cranky mood, can you tell?

Righteous indignation.

re: #128 Lucius Septimius

Just remember: after the first full night's sleep, you'll feel like you've awakened in Tahiti. It's coming.

re: #118 Walter L. Newton

Yep, I knew this would be one of those threads.
That's why I'm here.
Where's Mandy?

re: #132 mama winger

PMSM ?

re: #130 Lucius Septimius

Did you get my answer to your Greek question?

I did. Thank you! Little Winger and I are having a knock-down drag-out in regards to apostolic authority. Nothing like a little theological fistfight for family bonding.

re: #55 godfrey

Weird is becoming normal for me. Today I was in a meeting, and one guy there just had to let fly some gratuitous barb at W. It was if, if he hadn't done that, the world would seem hostile and alien to him. All these insults are thrown around to get a reaction that reassures him his opinions are sound. It was that feeling he craved, more than anything else. And that made him someone to be pitied.

That's it! Validating his feelings, as the psychobabblers would say, and/or establishing his chic status. It's pure narcissicism. It's all about the speaker himself. I think you've got it!

re: #64 KarridineSome body in the media needs to ask him the question, Was it worth losing everything...:)

re: #119 godfrey

You sit down, or I pull this thread over right now.

DON'T MAKE ME COME BACK THERE.

re: #135 ploome hineni

:)

best age

When do the McCain 'depends' jokes start?

FIVE MILLYUNTH...uh, never mind

Don't the Arabs consider lying akin to an art form?

re: #130 Lucius Septimius

Did you get my answer to your Greek question?

"Greek" will also cost you extra.

re: #132 mama winger

Wow Mama, that's a bit strong. Not that I completely disagree though. The MSM definitely favors the pali cause, maybe more because they are whores who want ratings more than life itself. Sure the odd reporter is ain acutal anti-semite, but most of them are merely jackals that eat the offal out of the guts of the dead the real predators leave behind.

re: #133 Occasional Reader

STFU, kufr! You can't read classical Arabic! Everything's better in classical Arabic! Even Farsi is better in classical Arabic!

Iranian hardline students have offered rewards totalling a million dollars for the “execution” of the three Israeli military leaders.

Sounds like a contest.

/will the Mossad please pick up the white courtesy phone

I vote that Charles remove the post tally until we have passed through the 5 millionth post and then Charles can quietly announce the winner. Anyone up for contributions for a prize to the 5 millionth Lizard poster? (the H3 idea is attractive!)

re: #142 Jim in Virginia

DON'T MAKE ME COME BACK THERE.

He's touching me.

am not.

are too.

am not.

MOMMM !

re: #136 godfrey

Just remember: after the first full night's sleep, you'll feel like you've awakened in Tahiti. It's coming.

When your youngest goes away to college, that's when the spouse gets sleep apnea and snores like a 747 taking off.

re: #132 mama winger

Ingrates, at least the ones old enough to talk. I'm really tired of them not doing what I ask and giving my shiite about the littlest things. I tried to appeal to the oldest one's sense of honor regarding helping out, but all I got was a blank "who the eff are you?" stare. I'm at the point of saying "ok boys, you're on your own. The railroad track is over there; hop a freight and good luck."

I've tried everything I can think of, and they just will not do what they're asked. If I'd had half the attitude they do, my father would have whipped me silly, but I suspect that would only make them more stubborn.

I was a good kid, all told. My mom has no idea how easy she had it with me. No, really.

re: #128 Lucius Septimius
Kid keeping you up again? Go hold him. You'll still be sleepy but you'll feel better.

re: #148 godfrey

STFU, kufr! You can't read classical Arabic! Everything's better in classical Arabic! Even Farsi is better in classical Arabic!

You haven't read "Hamlet" until you've read it in the original classical Arab.

-Juan Cole, as played by Christopher Plummer

re: #139 mama winger

Well that's nice. Whose side are you on?

re: #147 sojerofgod

Wow Mama, that's a bit strong. Not that I completely disagree though. The MSM definitely favors the pali cause, maybe more because they are whores who want ratings more than life itself. Sure the odd reporter is ain acutal anti-semite, but most of them are merely jackals that eat the offal out of the guts of the dead the real predators leave behind.

Oh - I'M not the cranky one who said that. It was LUCIUS. HE's the one. He did it. He did it. Not me. Wasn't my fault. I never touched him.

re: #135 ploome hineni

:)

best age

Nope. Fifty-one.

Well, I can think of someone who when she has sex with me, it's worth a million dollars.

And she gives it to me free.

re: #155 Jim in Virginia

The little one was really fussy today; it's his older brothers who are really on my last nerve.

That and a couple of asswipe undergraduates, but I'm just going to fail them and be done with it.

re: #141 beachkatie

Some body in the media needs to ask him the question, Was it worth losing everything...:)

You know, that is exactly right. That is the question the general public wants asked, but will never be. Isn't that the role of the professional journalist, to ask the questions the public want answered?

re: #157 Lucius Septimius

Well that's nice. Whose side are you on?

I'm on my side. Because my side is the right side.

Greek, hmm. Does that mean "with extra verbal carping and swatting the back of head by muscular woman who smells like garlic and oregano"?

I forgot, what was the percentage of the press who voted republican last election ?
And they claim the Jooos control the media.
Take the tin hat off, you're messing up the BBC signal.

What the hell is wrong with our mainstream wire services?

They hate America...

re: #131 godfrey

I'm in my forties. It's at least twenty years until Depends.

I'm in my fifties. I'm at least twenty years away from my midlife crisis.

re: #154 Lucius Septimius

Ingrates, at least the ones old enough to talk. I'm really tired of them not doing what I ask and giving my shiite about the littlest things. I tried to appeal to the oldest one's sense of honor regarding helping out, but all I got was a blank "who the eff are you?" stare. I'm at the point of saying "ok boys, you're on your own. The railroad track is over there; hop a freight and good luck."

I've tried everything I can think of, and they just will not do what they're asked. If I'd had half the attitude they do, my father would have whipped me silly, but I suspect that would only make them more stubborn.

I was a good kid, all told. My mom has no idea how easy she had it with me. No, really.

Someday they will have kids of their own. Then you can laugh! My sons are SO getting paid back for everything they did! And as the Grandma, I can come in, spoil the grandkids rotten with ice cream and candy, then split when they get all hyper from the sugar overload I gave them.

re: #152 Alouette

Ah, so much to look forward to in life. I think I'll go to Paris.

re: #151 mama winger

He's touching me.

am not.

are too.

am not.

MOMMM !

My brother and I still do that at Thanksgiving. I'm 53, he's 50. My Mom must think we're nuts.

re: #139 mama winger Wikipedia's feature article today is on John Knox, the father of Presbyterianism. You could have knocked me over with a feather, I didn't think wiki even knew how to spell Presbyterian.

re: #154 Lucius Septimius

Yeah, I wanted to trade my kid for a wild baboon when he was about 5 years old. The baboon would have been more pleasant.

God is refining you. Really. He is. Think of the Lord's impatience when we continue to not get it. I bet He wants to smack me just about every day of my life.

You are modeling the Father to them. Ask Him to give you some advice on the subject. He's an expert on kids who don't listen. :)

re: #174 Jim in Virginia

Wikipedia's feature article today is on John Knox, the father of Presbyterianism. You could have knocked me over with a feather, I didn't think wiki even knew how to spell Presbyterian.

LOL ! ha :)

well Jerry Springer a democrat in Cincinnati years ago paid a hooker with a check.lol

Sayeth the Big Boss Lizard:

What the hell is wrong with our mainstream wire services?

Lemme guess, 'they are still in business'?

I loathe the lamestream media.

re: #162 The Shadow Do

I'm still in shock the wife standing beside him in the news conferance.

So how will the malevolent Juan Cole and his useful idiot followers explain this?

They will, like the MSM, pretend it doesn't exist.

OT: Welcome to the Big House: The Hon. NY Gov. Eliot Spitzer !

DID I FORGET TO MENTION HE'S A DEMOCRAT?

US History Encyclopedia: Mann Act

Congress passed the White Slave Traffic Act on 25 June 1910. Commonly known as the "Mann Act" in honor of the bill's sponsor, Illinois Representative James Robert Mann, the act was designed to eliminate "white slavery," broadly understood as forced female prostitution. The act makes it a felony to transport in interstate or foreign commerce or in the District of Columbia "any woman or girl for the purpose of prostitution or debauchery, or for any other immoral purpose." Conviction under the original law was punishable by a "fine not exceeding five thousand dollars" and/or "imprisonment of not more than five years."

[Link: www.answers.com...]

re: #177 hayseed

well Jerry Springer a democrat in Cincinnati years ago paid a hooker with a check.lol

It bounced

re: #162 The Shadow Do

You know, that is exactly right. That is the question the general public wants asked, but will never be. Isn't that the role of the professional journalist, to ask the questions the public want answered?

"Governor Spitzer, what exactly did you receive in exchange for $4300? On a scale of one to ten, how would you rate it? As a consumer advocate , do you believe you received fair value for your money? "

re: #158 mama winger
LOL ok ok Mom,

But still think they are gut eating jackals who would reach inside a full commode for a scandal tip.

re: #153 ploome hineni

from wonkette

see the wimmin

[Link: wonkette.com...]

The cartoon towards the bottom of the page was hilarious! Those do appear to be some very attractive babes though. On the serious side, his wife must be devastated by the revelation made today. She is no Hillary...

re: #6 JammieWearingFool

Nothing, if you're our enemies.

All you have to do is take what they report and invert it 180 degrees and you may come close to the truth, or at least closer.

Who's Juan COle, anyway, and why should I care what he thinks?

re: #184 sojerofgod

LOL ok ok Mom,

But still think they are gut eating jackals who would reach inside a full commode for a scandal tip.

No argument there - lol :)

re: #148 godfrey

STFU, kufr! You can't read classical Arabic! Everything's better in classical Arabic! Even Farsi is better in classical Arabic!

Heh, you should know that all good literature is best heard in the original Klingonese.

re: #172 taxfreekiller

tfk, I know this will piss you off, but your poetics are those of a latter-day Virgil. Minus all the fussiness, of course. But the attitude is the same. Just thought I'd throw that out there.

Spaniards re-elect Socialist Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero.

I think the Spaniards are as dumb as a bag of hammers.

I've never been to Spain.

re: #175 mama winger

re: #179 beachkatie

I believe you meant to say: His soon to be ex wife who is going to sue his pants off.

re: #179 beachkatie

I'm still in shock the wife standing beside him in the news conferance.

If it was me, my wife would be standing beside me also. However, I would be prone - for sure.

re: #147 sojerofgod

I said it, and I stand by it.

Israel exists as the last line of defense for the Jews in a world which for centuries has been coming up with inventive ideas to exterminate them. As Hannah Arendt once said, one is only safe from Anti-Semitism on the moon.

The MSM, in their leftist love of the "oppressed" and hatred of capitalism have turned on Israel and openly goes out their way to support, defend, apologize for and in all other way pander to murderous thugs who desire nothing less than the complete annihilation of the Jews. And the MSN enables them by portraying Israel, perhaps the most patient and long-suffering nation on earth, as the aggressors in a conflict they did not start and would end today if their enemy would given them a moment's rest. They have become mouthpieces for the foulest sorts of Anti-Semitic propaganda since the publication of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

Perhaps they are just idealistic, or opportunistic, but the effect remains the same; whether it's out of genuine stupidity, willful ignorance, or malice, they have chosen sides in this conflict, and the side they have chosen will not stop until they have killed every Jew they can find. Don't believe me? Listen to what they say.

As for Juan Cole? He has chosen evil. What more can I say.

re: #153 ploome hineni
They showed no faces...just T&A! The commentary was funny.

re: #186 rawmuse

All you have to do is take what they report and invert it 180 degrees and you may come close to the truth, or at least closer.

Sad but true.

re: #179 beachkatie

I'm still in shock the wife standing beside him in the news conferance.

Not to worry...Eliots worth $500 million...no pre-nup!

BWAAHAHAH !

The poster "Israel must be wiped off the map" is legitimized and supported by calling a rally featuring it to be "pro-Palestinian", since practically all of the world considers itself pro-Palestinian. The efforts of this Reuters caption are directed toward promotion of the idea that Israel must be wiped off the map.

The AFP caption, which is for a photograph that also says that "Israel must be wiped off the map", considers this sentiment legitimate for an "anti-Israel" rally, and pretends not to notice the bulls-eye targets put on the faces of the Israelis. They are merely "posters featuring portraits" to AFP.

In this way, Reuters and AFP whitewash, legitimize, normalize and encourage support for the genocidal plans inherent in the "Israel must be wiped off the map" movement.

re: #175 mama winger

Days like today, I'd just like Him to finish the job and leave me alone.

Who's the babe walking past in the top photo?

/hubba hubba

re: #191 DesertSage

Spaniards re-elect Socialist Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero.

I think the Spaniards are as dumb as a bag of hammers.

I've never been to Spain.

Commie, terror loving jew-hating twink...

re: #179 beachkatie

I'm still in shock the wife standing beside him in the news conferance.

Imagine the phone call. "Honey, one more thing. I'm having a press conferenece. Can you come down to the office and stand beside me? You don't have to say anything. In fact, it would be better if you didn't."

re: #198 ted

Elliot is going to really enjoy living under a bridge in an abandoned refrigerator...

re: #203 ted

Commie, terror loving jew-hating twink...

ETA is going to tear up Zapatero's culo

re: #204 Jim in Virginia

Oh, honey and about that urination problem you are having... It will all become clear at the press conference...

I have it on good authority that Ayatollah Khomeini was a pedophile who fondled young boys including Ahmadenijad. Ahmadenijad is also a pedophile who has sick sex thoughts. It is shameful that these evil cretin are allowed to desecrate the world by their very existence. Khomeini's mother was a whore as well.

If not for badly behaving Israel, the US and EU and UN would never find unanimity.

US, UN, EU, deplore Givat Ze'ev project

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

And of course there is a something from Rice which again proves that she is living on some other planet.

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told reporters US policy on expansion of settlements in disputed areas is well-known, and it is important to keep the atmosphere positive.

It's easy to keep the atmosphere positive. Just ignore the rockets hitting Sderot and Ashkelon. The blood in a Jerusalem yeshiva. The various shootings and other violence in Judea. The rabbit who wants to eat the Jews. Abbas's media and press praising terrorists. ETC.

re: #207 Whiterasta

Oh, honey and about that urination problem you are having... It will all become clear at the press conference...

Oh, and love ya hon!

re: #201 Lucius Septimius

Days like today, I'd just like Him to finish the job and leave me alone.

Yeah - it would be helpful if you could just wipe them out with a flood or something :)

{Lucius}

It gets better. Someday you too will be siting around arguing about the apostles with your sons while they sip their Scotch and smoke their cigars.

It seems like an impossibility, eh? That's what I thought too when the kid painted himself with blue housepaint and sat on the cat.

Cole will probably rationalize that if it's acceptable for the US to place bounties on the heads of terrorists like Osama, Zawahiri, and their minions, then why shouldn't the Iranians do the same to those they think are terrorists - Israeli leaders.

You'd just have to ignore the fact that Israeli leaders are leaders of a sovereign nation with the absolute right to defend their nation from those that seek its destruction - the very terrorists and their terror masters who produce the very posters we see. Cole and his ilk would turn the definition of terrorist on its head and otherwise pervert the meaning of words that carry specific weight and definitions.

re: #196 snowcrash

Snowcrash - I'd appreciate it if you'd activate your e-mail or send me an e-mail. Want to tell you something off-thread.

Here's the problem: Morteza Nikoubazl

In order for this reporter to work from Iran, where they do not have freedom of the press and saying the wrong thing can get you and/or your family killed, leads many in the media to actually just sell out and be agents for the Iranian secret police.

This story is of a piece though, Iran was the first country to issue a Imad Mugniyeh postage stamp honoring his "contributions" to Lebanese and Palestinian culture.

re: #208 Truth Dr.

You have some links to back up your statements

re: #160 Whiterasta

You, sir, are awesome. (I take it you mean your wife/significant other?)

re: #204 Jim in Virginia

Imagine the phone call. "Honey, one more thing. I'm having a press conferenece. Can you come down to the office and stand beside me? You don't have to say anything. In fact, it would be better if you didn't."

I'll bet she had plenty to say in private starting with: "You stupid son of a bitch..."

re: #200 EE

Has no-one ever thought that it is perhaps better to be a bit circumspect in the language used when you're actually INSIDE one of these lunatic countries with their prediliction for executions, torture etc? I mean, honestly, what would you say if you were there every day?

in the attached bio on cole, it says his family name is Kohl.

[Link: www-personal.umich.edu...]

Does anyone know if he is one of those despicable chomskyite self loathing Jews?

Just askin'

re: #204 Jim in Virginia

Wear is my rolling pin? Will be there soon honey!:(

re: #201 Lucius Septimius

Days like today, I'd just like Him to finish the job and leave me alone.

Lucius, it will get better. Even if you do a perfect job parenting, your kids will still be perfect jerks sometimes; sometimes for months. They can't help it, they're kids. And then they will do something absolutely wonderful and amazing.
Take a deep breath. Take one of them for a walk around the block. Tomorrow may not be better but one day soon will be.

re: #205 Whiterasta

Eliot will have lotsa friends though !

re: #223 ted

[Link: shockingbird.com...]

New Thread!

Change!

Drink!

re: #225 macintush

New Thread!

Change!

Drink!

OK!

re: #207 Whiterasta

Oh, honey and about that urination problem you are having... It will all become clear at the press conference...

Thats cruel!, but I laughed just the same. I think a large part of Americas problem with finding real leaders today is that most of our true leadership "material" has "skeletons in the closet" that would not withstand scrutiny from the MSM. Those most qualified would be crushed by todays media!

222 Ploome ... Understood ... I know one of hitler's nazi henchmen had the name Rosenberg. I was just asking and not assuming ...

re: #221 Jim in Virginia

I'm sure it will be, but going with no sleep, having to still do my job, teach my wife's class on top of it, and then come home and either drive the boys to baseball or make dinner or both ... there's just not a lot of me left these days.

re: #216 dammad

Yes. You are too kind.

re: #218 threecoloursblue

Has no-one ever thought that it is perhaps better to be a bit circumspect in the language used when you're actually INSIDE one of these lunatic countries with their prediliction for executions, torture etc? I mean, honestly, what would you say if you were there every day?

Send Help

re: #229 Lucius Septimius

Can you get some help? Is there a kid at your college that might like to pick up some extra cash by helping out for a period of time?

re: #227 LoFlyer

I have skeletons in my closet I would not want to see on the internet...

"What the hell is wrong with our mainstream wire services?"

The stories are written by Muslims who feel, like Arafat, that they can say anything in a Western language and whatever they want in Arabic and Farsi, and for the most part get away with it. I mean the FBI, in spite of 3 scandals involving the theft, destruction and mistranslation of hundreds of Arabic documents still refuses to hire Jews or Christians from the middle east because they are ...unreliable. That degree of naivety is spellbinding. Fortunately America has a significant group of Muslims and Bahais who speak fluent Farsi, a language whose written form is given to far less prevarication.

re: #219 _remembertonyc

Says he lived in Muslim countries for a period of time, and is still alive, so I don't think so.

re: #232 mama winger

I wish.

We've had a hell of a time finding baby-sitters. Responsible kids are hard to come by these days, I'm afraid. And their expectations of pay ... well, let's just say I like to eat occasionally.

We tried a service once a while back. HUGE mistake. Sickos.

re: #187 Maine's Michael

Who's Juan COle, anyway, and why should I care what he thinks?

What! You haven't heard? He's the worlds smartest college professor and expert on everything Arab and Islamic.

I think he spent one Christmas in Cambodia as well. Or is that the other asshat?

You're right, you shouldn't care what he thinks but it can be entertaining at times.

Is it just me, or is this page not loading properly?

re: #236 Lucius Septimius

I wish I could come down there. I really do. Kids are my thing. I could take them off your hands while you got some rest. I would love it. But I can't get away just now - have to take care of Grandpa.

re: #213 jamgarr
I'm sorry, I haven't been doing the email thing. But if you have news (I remember) go to the Monday Afternoon Open thread.

re: #240 mama winger

How's he doing?

re: #236 Lucius SeptimiusPut an ad up in a couple of local churches for a mom's (or dad's) helper. Get references. Even an hour or two a week would be worth it.
You and Mrs. Septimius aren't Superdad and Supermom. Find help. You'll appreciate it and your older kids will too, if you can spend a little more time with them.

235 Lone Wolf ... good point ... thanks

re: #242 Lucius Septimius

How's he doing?

To tell you the truth, his mind is a little foggy and I don't think most days he remembers that he ran over Grandma. He seems a little, well, dim. :O

Maybe it's for the best.

But if he uses my tupperware containers for a urinal one more time, I'm gonna bust his geriatric chops.

re: #245 mama winger

eeewww!

re: #246 Lucius Septimius

eeewww!

Yer tellin me.

Alright, I'm going to try to get a little sleep. Later, all.

re: #248 Lucius Septimius

Alright, I'm going to try to get a little sleep. Later, all.

Get some rest, sweetie. You deserve it.

On the plus side, at least Reuters did use the phrase, "a one-million dollar reward for the murder of three Israeli commanders, Ehud Barak, Amos Yadlin and Meir Dagan."
Which, for them, is a huge step forward.
Although, in terms of proper grammar, it should have been, "murders."
I think...

Hey, I'm grasping at straws here looking for a little sunshine.
Please excuse the mixed metaphors.

Jihad: Struggle, the struggle within the soul, defending the faith from critics, supporting its growth and defense financially, even migrating to non-Muslim lands for the purpose of spreading Islam. Violent jihad is a constant of Islamic history.

For comparison, Jihad means "struggle". What was the title of Hitler's book? Mein Kampf. My Struggle.

Coincidence? I think not.

re: #245 mama winger

Well, buy the poor guy hiz own bukkit!

This corrupt POS used his power to extort businesses and business men. Until finally a group said let’s go to trial. Then he dramatically lost.He is arrogant, rather stupid, unpatriotic and an egomaniac. I hope he loses his license to practice law and goes bankrupt like the businesses and employees he persecuted.

He that was for Spitzer. Does it work for Juan Cole. ?

Iranian hardline students have offered rewards totalling a million dollars for the “execution” of the three Israeli military leaders. (AFP/Atta Kenare)

Students agreed on a one-million dollar reward for the murder of three Israeli commanders, Ehud Barak, Amos Yadlin and Meir Dagan. REUTERS/Morteza Nikoubazl (IRAN)

students---where are they coming up with the million dollars--student loans?
students---offering rewards for "execution"--what class is that listed under?

You can see the pedophilia in the eyes of Khomeini and Ahmadenijad. They are pure evil - both of them - follower of the devil. You can see the way Ahmadenijad lusts for young boys -- the homoerotic pedophilia that is emblematic of the Palestinian cause that attracts the cretins like Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, Avi Lewis and other creatures of no merit and less intelligence. The young boys of the Palestinians choose to blow themselves up because of the shame they live in - a society consumed by hatred and warped by those who think like Ahmadenijad and Khomeini the shameless rapists of young boys who rob them of their childhood and their dreams and replace it with the hatred spewing out from Hezbollah and Hamas and the phony Holocaust denier Abbas. One wonders whether Brezinski was buggered by Khomeini and that is why he has fallen in line with the Palestinian cause. One wonders whether that is what influenced Jimmy Carter's thinking or was it always that Carter had a dark heart and the knowledge that Billy was the one with the brains.

re: #256 Truth Dr.
You are hung up on this pedophilia thing. If you can link to facts fine, but it seriously it sounds like your fixated and a liitle unbalanced.

I feel a Monty Python moment of spin coming on.

"Your majesty is like a stream of bats piss"

"What?"

"He said it"

"No I didn't!"

"Yes you did."

"Er, well, I mean't that your majesty is like a shaft of golden light when all around is darkness"

"Ah"

What the hell is wrong with our mainstream wire services?

Nothing. They're just doing their job.
/s

Actually Snowcrash - Let them prove they are not pedohiles. It is my belief that the Palestinian youth want to kill themselves and are so angry at the world because they are sexually abused by the depraved imams of Gaza who follow the words of Khomeini and Ahmadenijad. These cretins like Khomeini and Ahmadnijad hold such repugnant views they can only be the lowest form of scum on the earth.

re: #141 beachkatie

Some body in the media needs to ask him the question, Was it worth losing everything...:)

Spitzer has a problem, in his mind/heart/soul, like Hugh Grant... CONSCIOUSLY he can answer, "No, it wasn't worth it," but he COULD NOT STOP DOING IT, until he (more or LESS consciously) arranged to get himself caught...

/Its not an easy thing to deal with, Katie, IF ONE HAS NO ANCHOR, NO COMPASS... (no morals)

Snowcrash - that is the only thing that can explain it because in all honesty the whole Palestinian cause is a crock -- how could 750,000 so-called refugees grow to 4 and half million while Israel absorbed 850,000 Jewish refugees at the same time. The definition of Palestinian was so cockeyed that anyone who was in the area between 1946-48 is considered a Palestinian refugee. Therefore, most of those who claimed that status were relative newcomers looking to capitalize on the wealth and opportunity created by the Jews. The Palestinians live in a dream world like that Raed Salah of the Islamic list who claimed that the Jewish temple never existed.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

The only thing that explains the hatred, bile and pure stupidity of the truly evil, be it named Khomeini, Ahamdenjad and Salah is that they are both the buggering and the buggered.

re: #260 Truth Dr.
Seems to me they are brought up in a culture that eats, sleeps, breathes and drinks hate. The only thing worth living for seems to be dying. I can see this photos and news clips so I believe it. The whole sexual molestation thing is not obvious to me so I will hold off on that opinion. Sorry.

Not a problem Snowcrash. I don't disagree with your comments on hate. I am looking for another explanation because there is no culture that is as depraved as that which exists in Gaza and that is fed and cultivated by the leadership in Iran and Hezbollah. Was it not true that Mohammed married a female who was younger than Jerry Lee Lewis's first wife? Did Mohammed not have multiple wives? I think that he played for the right team.

Look closely and you'll see that the quote is attributed to Khomeini and not Dinnerjacket...

Seems like there are a couple of people out there who think I'm hurting Ahamdenijad and Khomeini's feelings. If we don't ask questions how can we know? I want someone from the MSM to ask Ahamadenijad at his next press conference whether he is a pedophile. That would take guts -- something the MSM doesn't have.

What the hell is wrong with our mainstream wire services?

Everything. And they are probably too busy not covering the Manhattan Declaration on Climate Change because it is a measured view by 500 real scientists on the current PC myths about how we are all about to fry.

There is one thing we can trust about mainstream media - and that is that we can't trust anything they publish.

Though Elliot Spitzer is ugly as sin -- at least in the picture they are showing on this page (He looks like Granny Clampett about to lay into Jethro) and did a stupid thing, he's not evil:

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

Chomsky, Norman Finkelstein, Avi Lewis, Naomi Klein -- those are the evil ones. The ones who choose to betray their brothers and sisters for the almight dollar because those talented dullards would not be successful other than as "house Jews" - they are the cudgel in the hands of the Jew-haters because if Naomi Klein is down with Hezbollah, then how could Hezbollah hate Jews? If you ever encounter these creeps - let them know how you feel about them. They are really the bottom of the barrel.

re: #179 beachkatie

I'm still in shock the wife standing beside him in the news conferance.

She must be an idiot. Or maybe she wants to run for President.

re: #209 opinionated

If not for badly behaving Israel, the US and EU and UN would never find unanimity.

US, UN, EU, deplore Givat Ze'ev project

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

And of course there is a something from Rice which again proves that she is living on some other planet.

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told reporters US policy on expansion of settlements in disputed areas is well-known, and it is important to keep the atmosphere positive.

It's easy to keep the atmosphere positive. Just ignore the rockets hitting Sderot and Ashkelon. The blood in a Jerusalem yeshiva. The various shootings and other violence in Judea. The rabbit who wants to eat the Jews. Abbas's media and press praising terrorists. ETC.

Condoleezza Rice is also an idiot.

re: #267 transferthem

Everything. And they are probably too busy not covering the Manhattan Declaration on Climate Change because it is a measured view by 500 real scientists on the current PC myths about how we are all about to fry.

There is one thing we can trust about mainstream media - and that is that we can't trust anything they publish.

CNN international just ran a "Broken Government" special on global warming a few days ago, talking about how the government is blocking CHANGE! that would supposedly prevent us from frying.

Condoleezza Rice is also an idiot

I wish she were an idiot. I think she's more dangerous than that. She wants a legacy and 'peace' in the ME is what she is after. She knows the arabs won't yield and inch so that leaves Israel...

Under olmert, Israel looks like yielding the whole country as condi slowly squeezes him.

The truth is that any sort of peace will only come when Israel is respected and feared by the islamofascists. Israel should go into gaza and capture and kill every hamasshole leader and any followers who don't surrender as prisoners of war. Keep the prisoners as a bargaining card to get the Israeli soldiers back - these camel rooting tossers can be rounded up again as soonas Israel so decides after swapping them for proper soldiers.

Israel should go into lebannon and kil hisbollah nazi leaders in teh same way. And Damascus. The arabs will soon get the picture. Israel should not occupy any arab land - just go in, kick ass and leave a calling card for the surrender.

Being nice to arabs, islamofascists and the western left doesn't work. They only respect superior force.

re: #271 laZardo

CNN - Cynical Non News?

Everybody sees these things and are outraged for a few minutes then life goes on and everyone forgets . Someone need to start an archieve of all these things so there will be proof .

When someone announces that he intends to kill you, believe him.

What the hell is wrong with our mainstream wire services?

They wish for our civilization to be smashed into oblivion. No other theory even comes close to explaining their:
- support of our enemies
- lack of support of our own troops, gov't, cause, etc.
- pushing the global warming lie
- anti-white racism
- anti-male genderism
- tree-hugging
- animal "rights"
- marxism, hatred of the rich, persecution of business, etc.
- mercy towards criminals
- lack of sympathy for actual victims

More looney toones from the Islamic world.

I heard on the radio hear (in Israel) that the initiators were calling on their fellow students to each sell a kidney to raise money for the rewards. I think that we should encourage them each to sell two.

the world is too d#*& full of F&*k*6g apologists is what's wrong with "our ", or "their" (however you want to look at it), mainstream wire services. history has a peculiar way of repeating itself and too many people seem to care less to look back and review it, it's too easy for them to blame America and the BushitlerCheneypigmonster than it is to think critically.

I'd just issue caution abot those captions about "wiping Israel from the map". I wonder why a poster in Farsi would suddenly contain the key phrase in English.

It seems these two photos could easily be Photoshopped.

I wouldn't like them to be used as proof - only to find we have been duped.