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AP, Reuters Ignore Obama's Pastor

Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 9:24:18 am PDT

So how are the major wire services covering the story of Barack Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, and his insane, hateful statements blaming America for 9/11 and suggesting that the US created the AIDS virus to wipe out black people (among many other deranged comments)?

Answer: they aren’t. Neither the Associated Press nor Reuters has a single story on the wires about this. And that means the story is not being mentioned in most of the daily newspapers of the United States.

The Wall Street Journal does have a piece this morning: Obama and the Minister.

Bob Owens asks, “What kind of man would expose his children to this lunacy?” Wright and Obama: It Only Gets Worse.

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1 JamesTKirk  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:25:13am

Would they identify him as a Democrat if they did notice him?

2 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:26:00am

It's a dang cult.

3 laZardo  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:26:04am

What about ABC's footage? Having it on at least one major network means they're slowly taking notice...

4 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:26:07am
5 Spiny Norman  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:26:10am

Uh, no.

Oh, wait, that was rhetorical, wasn't it, James?

;^)

6 astronmr20  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:26:21am

Since the dinosaur media is in such decline, their swan song is to take the mask off completely.

Desperation.

7 jamgarr  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:26:33am

Pay no attention to the man behind the pulpit!

8 EC Marm  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:26:36am

I look forward to the day in America when Barack Obama's 'spiritual adviser' and former Reverend will judge me on the content of my character and not the color of my skin.

9 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:26:44am

re: #1 JamesTKirk

Would they identify him as a Democrat if they did notice him?

They would mention if he was on the (R) side of the photo.

10 loppyd  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:27:15am

How many AP and Reuters stories were there about Geraldine Ferraro's comment?

11 lawhawk  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:27:41am

And the kicker is that Oprah Winfrey is also a congregant of this guy.

Her folks have to be wondering what the heck is going on as well.

Expect damage control to be rallied by Oprah in 5..4..3..2..1..

Thus far, Obama's damage control has been lame at best - how exactly can you get the context of those kinds of statements where they'd ever be appropriate? [ed: in an insane asylum or at a conspiracy theorists' convention?]

12 jamgarr  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:27:43am

re: #8 EC Marm

I look forward to the day in America when Barack Obama's 'spiritual adviser' and former Reverend will judge me on the content of my character and not the color of my skin.


Would've dinged you up twice if I could.

13 Spiny Norman  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:27:44am

Eventually, the wire services will HAVE to cover the story, once everyone else is... if only to help Obama "distance" himself.

Covering fire, as it were.

14 EC Marm  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:27:50am

More on Rev. Racist Wrong:

Now the reverend begins to preach. "We are deeply involved in the importing of drugs, the exporting of guns and the training of professional KILLERS. . . . We believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God. . . . We conducted radiation experiments on our own people. . . . We care nothing about human life if the ends justify the means!" The crowd whoops and amens as Wright builds to his climax: "And. And. And! GAWD! Has GOT! To be SICK! OF THIS SHIT!"


Rolling Stone Magazine February 2007
"The Radical Roots of Barack Obama"

15 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:27:51am

re: #8 EC Marm

I look forward to the day in America when Barack Obama's 'spiritual adviser' and former Reverend will judge me on the content of my character and not the color of my skin.

Absolutely. The content of our character.

16 spikester  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:27:53am

Is The Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. black enough?

17 loppyd  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:27:53am

Rush is all over this again today.

Just played the "riding dirty" quote.

18 JamesTKirk  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:28:22am

re: #12 jamgarr

Would've dinged you up twice if I could.

I did ding him up twice, because he also posted that on the last thread.

19 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:28:25am

Just listening to this tool on Rush. My God, the hate is palpable - I honestly am reminded of Hitler's speeches while listening to the "Reverend's" homily.

20 rappmandu  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:28:31am

Facts and logic don't seem to have much effect on Obama supporters. I think ridicule, not just of the candidate but also of his supporters, is very important.

Make His Messiness into a parody of the farce that he is.

21 Thanos  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:29:00am

Contrast this to the coverage McCain's association rec'd

22 Spiny Norman  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:29:03am

re: #12 jamgarr

Would've dinged you up twice if I could.

Dinged her up for ya.

;^)

23 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:29:10am

re: #11 lawhawk

And the kicker is that Oprah Winfrey is also a congregant of this guy.

Her folks have to be wondering what the heck is going on as well.

Expect damage control to be rallied by Oprah in 5..4..3..2..1..

Thus
far, Obama's damage control has been lame at best - how exactly can you
get the context of those kinds of statements where they'd ever be
appropriate? [ed: in an insane asylum or at a conspiracy theorists'
convention?]

That's a working description of the Democratic Party if I ever heard one!

24 carbon footprint  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:29:15am

But if John McCain had a 'spiritual advisor' that made comments in a similar vein about blacks, there would be an uproar.

25 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:29:50am
26 kawfytawk  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:30:08am

re: #11 lawhawk


whenever Oprah is in trouble she throws out money....hence the Big Give

27 spikester  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:30:14am

re: #20 rappmandu

Religious movements are based on feelings. Perfect for Dims
and Islamest .

28 christheprofessor  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:30:48am

re: #4 savage_nation

He's a klansman in black robes

Nice...

29 astronmr20  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:30:48am

re: #25 savage_nation

No.. let him scream it from the mountaintop. Exposure. Sunlight. Truth.


i want to know what someone thinks.

30 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:30:58am

Good morning Charles - hope you're well today.
Just FYI, on the DT we've been referring to the Rev Wright as the "Racist Rev" (although at the beginning of the use of said term, some confused him with Sharpton) and it's sorta obtained a cache out here!
And why on earth would you expect Associated with terrorists Press or Al-Reuters to get it?
But trust me on this: Obama's cover is blown. His tax return shows $22,500 last year to that church; Obama has been a member of the Racist Rev's congregation for over 20 years; in his first book Obama called the Racist Rev his spiritual adviser and the "man who brought me back". From where we don't know, but the MSM can't ignore the Racist Rev with so many strong and long ties to Obama.
And, FWIW, the Racist Rev is STILL on Obama's campaign, serving as a member of the Religious
Study Group or some such nonsense.

31 loppyd  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:31:17am
"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001.

"We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost," he told his congregation.



This was on 9/16/01. Five days after 9/11.

32 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:31:25am

He was mistranslated. He was really just saying that America would be erased "from the pages of time."

-Juan Cole

33 Spiny Norman  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:31:33am

re: #19 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

Just listening to this tool on Rush. My God, the hate is palpable - I honestly am reminded of Hitler's speeches while listening to the "Reverend's" homily.

He sounds like Calypso Louie Farrakhan, if you ask me. Rev. Wright's Trinity United Church of Christ is little different from the NOI in that respect.

34 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:31:54am
35 ghost707  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:31:54am

The MSM will give it a story or two - and then pretend Wright never existed.

I am, however, looking forward to the democrats tearing each other apart - maybe somewhere in Denver.

36 spikester  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:31:55am

re: #26 kawfytawk

Is it just me or has anyone else ever noticed that even when the big O gives...it's all about the O?

37 Grok the Fullness  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:32:23am

Cognitive dissonance from the left presented as denial of the truth with BDS as the underlying diagnosis. They may even find a way to blame it on Bush seeing as he pushed them into having sex with a snake oil salesman by being so evil and all.

/

38 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:32:37am

re: #8 EC Marm Sorry EC, but you or the Racist Rev won't live long enough to hear that said.

39 m  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:32:58am

re: #18 JamesTKirk

Thanks~ I went back to that thread to ding that one up too.

40 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:33:13am

Interesting that it gets little national attention, but locally, it was all over talk radio - WLS-890, WIND-560, etc, and was the talk of the town outside the SunTimes and the Tribune.

/Here's to hoping the Rezko trial, and this 'pastor' Wright take Obama out of the running.

41 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:33:13am
42 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:33:19am

Oprah’s boards burning with Wright responses; Wright accuses America of creating the HIV virus

Mr. Wright said, “We supported Zionism shamelessly while ignoring the Palestinians and branding anybody who spoke out against it as being anti-Semitic. . . . We care nothing about human life if the end justifies the means. . . .”

Concluding, Mr. Wright said: “We started the AIDS virus . . . We are only able to maintain our level of living by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty. . . .”

43 EC Marm  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:33:32am

re: #11 lawhawk

And the kicker is that Oprah Winfrey is also a congregant of this guy.


Picking up a lot of stuff from the DT about this, so sorry to those folks, but it's worth repeating:

Mr. Wright’s church, the 8,000-member Trinity United Church of Christ, is considered mainstream — Oprah Winfrey has attended services, and many members are prominent black professionals. But the church is also more Afrocentric and politically active than standard black congregations.


[Link: www.nytimes.com...]


Wouldn't surprise me if Obama tells Oprah to do damage control for him.
44 kawfytawk  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:33:39am

re: #36 spikester


trust me ...I noticed....she can do no wrong when she's giving cars away to the greedy audience...(rolling my eyes)

45 Terp Mole  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:33:42am

CNN had a snippet this morning. I think it had Jeremiah Wright singing;

"Jesus loves the little children..."

... or something similarly innocuous.

46 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:33:57am

If I used the GD-word like Wright did, I'd have to go to confession.

/not joking

47 antishock8  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:34:19am

CNN is calling this hatespeech "fiery", and they're downplaying it in their article. God. What assholes.

48 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:34:21am
49 spikester  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:34:39am

re: #44 kawfytawk

Thanks. I thought my TV was trying to hood wink me!

50 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:35:18am

re: #42 Killgore Trout

Oprah’s boards burning with Wright responses; Wright accuses America of creating the HIV virus

Did this stuff spill out of the mosques or into the mosques?

51 rappmandu  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:36:05am

I think Americans would get sick of this Change! tripe really fast if people started paying at the register in Change! and asking for their Change! in Change! When people start griping at you for doing it, just say "I'm for Change! Obama 2008!"

Just like those Visa commercials in which everything comes to a grinding halt whenever someone pays with a check or cash.

Seriously, our "Give Me Convenience, Or Give Me Death" mentality will suffer a meltdown if we start doing it everywhere we go.

52 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:36:07am
53 obscured by clouds  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:36:10am

After listening to his "spiritual advisor's" hate speech, any wonderment that I had about Obama's not putting his hand over his heart during the National Anthem is gone. The fact that Obama didn't get up and leave the first time he heard this race-baiting tripe speaks volumes about his character (or lack thereof). Instead...he's sat through this vitriolic madness for twenty years.

This man -Obama- is straight up dangerous. How can any American actually vote for this guy?! For President of the United States of America?! The only justification that I can see is "Obama hates America. I hate America. So he has my vote." That's the only logical rationale that I can see.

Am I surprised that the MSM is running cover for the guy? No.

54 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:36:24am

I'm glad the WSJ is covering this (I linked it this morning after seeing the article) and like many stories, once they have put it out, others will follow. If nothing else, the media is slavish in their piling onto a story once a major outlet has picked it up.

That said, this is a story that needs to be repeated as many times as possible in as many venues as possible by as many voices as possible.

One good thing -- as we've seen in the past, stories that gain wide enough currency on the web do eventually make it to the MSM. It's the "white space" phenomenon: eventually they'll need a story to run to fill up space, and if this one is always sifting to the tope of the virutal pile, it could well get picked up and run during those hazy lazy days of summer news slump.

55 kawfytawk  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:36:26am

re: #49 spikester


and notice how many other talk show hosts are doing the same....now everyone...look under your chairs

56 spikester  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:36:34am

re: #48 savage_nation

I'll bet that there were some that got a car that had to use the gift finance the taxs.

57 snowcrash  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:36:49am

Michelle Obama certainly shares Wright's anti-american sentiments as evidenced by the few times we have heard her speak.

58 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:36:49am

re: #47 antishock8

CNN is calling this hatespeech "fiery", and they're downplaying it in their article. God. What assholes.

Like I said, nationally, there's going to be a lot of damage control. Locally, Obama and Oprah have a lot to answer for.

59 Ringo the Gringo  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:36:52am

I have to ask, since I can't find the information at Wikipedia or anywhere else: Is Rev. Jeremiah Wright half white?...Just looking at him, it would seem that he is.

In this photograph he appears more fair-skinned that Barack Obama.

I only wonder because it might help us to understand the psychology behind his angry, anti-white rhetoric.

60 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:36:56am

re: #50 debutaunt

The rhetoric is just as bad as what you might hear in a mosque. The difference is the church goes aren't blowing things up, just running for president.

61 saberry0530  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:37:20am

Wonder if the KKK or Al Queda is going to make him an honorary member. I mean with this much hate, they could probably use him for something. Maybe as a replacement for the recerntly dismembered Adam Gadhn. Just a thought.

62 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:37:42am

Hey y'all - if you read my #30 you'll understand why I say, with GREAT CONFIDENCE that the Racist Rev won't be ignored by the MSM.
Hell on Fox today, Chris Wallace said he'd read both of Obama's books, had looked at the church very closely and had some very pointed questions for Senator Obama about the Racist Rev.
Methinks the Racist Rev is gonna knock Spitzer and Kristen to page 30, at best.

63 Thanos  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:37:46am

Just an update on the hostages: There are eleven total now from Southern Iraq, I forgot the CBS reporter who was taken in February this year.

[Link: noblesseoblige.org...]

64 spikester  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:37:55am

re: #55 kawfytawk

Oh yah. Free lunches for everyone.
That reminds me! Free drinks everyone!

65 astronmr20  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:38:29am

re: #60 Killgore Trout

But presidents get to blow things up.

66 Grok the Fullness  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:38:30am

re: #25 savage_nation


No no no no....

The world needs to see the truth of Obama.

Change! Hope!... LMAO!
Snake Oil Salesman.

67 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:38:32am
68 wahabicorridor  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:38:55am

Comments on Oprah's blog

not a pretty sight..........

69 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:39:06am

re: #60 Killgore Trout

The rhetoric is just as bad as what you might hear in a mosque. The difference is the church goes aren't blowing things up, just running for president.

Inciting to vote.

70 Roger  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:39:12am

Request for Iowahawk: please do a a time warp and listen to Wright as Obama's White House Press Secretary. Good fun for all:-)

71 ghost707  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:39:20am

re: #11 lawhawk

And the kicker is that Oprah Winfrey is also a congregant of this guy.

Her folks have to be wondering what the heck is going on as well.

Expect damage control to be rallied by Oprah in 5..4..3..2..1..

Thus far, Obama's damage control has been lame at best - how exactly can you get the context of those kinds of statements where they'd ever be appropriate? [ed: in an insane asylum or at a conspiracy theorists' convention?]


I am starting to think that almost half the population of the U.S.(LLL's) is insane.

/ Not kidding.

72 kawfytawk  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:39:26am

re: #64 spikester

Oh yah. Free lunches for everyone.
That reminds me! Free drinks everyone!

oooooh kool-aid

73 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:39:31am
74 laZardo  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:39:38am

re: #47 antishock8

I'm probably not going to see more than a few seconds on the CNN International... this seems like most of its influence is local.

75 ErislDysnomia  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:39:58am

Charles observes:

AP, Reuters Ignore Obama's Pastor

Once again, the power of the DARPA-created Internet, with a little help from Google, shows that the MSM has lost its credibility. When they omit pregnant stories like this, what else are they omitting, and what are they lying about when they do report?

A dishonest media is a danger to the health of our society. It's an unelected autocracy and is a public danger.

76 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:40:00am

exposing their children to this hateful, racist man is child abuse. don't they see that?
oh, of course not, they agree w/ this cursing screaming lunatic . they want their children to hear this.

77 abolitionist  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:40:02am
We put [Nelson] Mandela in prison ...

About 1971, I was hitchhiking to Lexington Virginia and near Charlottesville, I was offered a ride by a black man. Learned he was from South Africa. Strange that he did not mention this imprisonment of Mandela thing by the US.
/not-dead-yet-white-guy

78 rawmuse  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:40:14am

This was entirely predictable. Did any of us really expect another outcome?

79 rappmandu  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:40:23am

Inside the Hussein Asylum

80 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:40:33am

re: #58 Honorary Yooper

Like I said, nationally, there's going to be a lot of damage control. Locally, Obama and Oprah have a lot to answer for.


I don't think so. Black racism is tolerated in society. Listen to the black urban radio stations in any large city and you'll hear the same thing. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Calypso Louie have been spewing this stuff nationally for a long time. I don't think the press is going to be interested in this story.

81 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:40:37am

re: #72 kawfytawk

oooooh kool-aid

How much are you charging for the snake oil?

82 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:40:42am
83 spikester  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:40:57am

re: #67 savage_nation

It's in the Lizard Lounge. Second table on the right.

84 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:40:59am

re: #54 Lucius Septimius
Hey my friend - check out my #30; the MSM isn't going to be able to ignore the Racist Rev. And Hillary hasn't even started on him and Obama!

BTW and very important, prayers still going up for your daughter - please let us know what doc's say.

85 Roger  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:41:13am

re: #68 wahabicorridor

No it sure isn't! What are her commentators thinking!

86 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:41:23am

some of my more scathing Wright Links
they are live in the link above

[Link: [Link: www.discoverthenetworks.org...]...]

After many lectures like this, Obama decided to take a second look at Wright's church. Older pastors warned him that Trinity was for "Buppies"--black urban professionals--and didn't have enough street cred. But Wright was a former Muslim and black nationalist who had studied at Howard and Chicago, and Trinity's guiding principles--what the church calls the "Black Value System"--included a "Disavowal of the Pursuit of Middleclassness.'"


[Link: tolucantimes.com...]


For more than two decades, Obama’s personal minister, friend, and confidant has been the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, a former Black Muslim who has been a severe anti-Israel advocate. Wright’s church is a member of a denomination whose governing body has taken a series of anti-Israel actions. Among the many anti-Semitic rants that Wright has engaged in, he has said that the Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for almost 40 years now.

[Link: 209.85.165.104...]

Which brings us back to Wright, who took a swipe at the campaign advisers when he talked to the Times: "When his enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli to visit Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, Wright said, "with Farrakhan, a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell. "Wright clarified to the Times that his trip had nothing to do with Louis Farrakhan's or Qaddafi's views.

[Link: [Link: www.ericnunnally.net...]...]

REV WRIGHT: Forgive me for having a momentary lapse. I forgot that The New York Times was leading the bandwagon in trumpeting why it is we should have gone into an illegal war. The New York Times became George Bush and the Republican Party’s national “blog.” The New York Times played a role in the outing of Valerie Plame. I do not know why I thought The New York Times had actually repented and was going to exhibit a different kind of behavior. 3/11/2007


[Link: [Link: www.aina.org...]...]

In the book titled When Black Men Stand up for God, a collection of sermons and reflections on the Million Man March, Wright identifies Kwanzaa founder Maulana Karenga as an attendee of the rally.[13] In the end notes that follow a transcript of one of Wright's sermons, Karenga is described as "an internationally acclaimed social activist and scholar in Pan African Studies"; "the founder and creator of Kwanzaa, the well-known African American holiday"; and "the director of Pan African Studies and Visiting Lecturer in Ethnic Studies at the University of California, Riverside."[14]


Unmentioned is the fact that Karenga is a self-identified "African socialist" whose "Seven Principles of Blackness," which are observed during Kwanzaa, are not only the Marxist precepts of parity and proletariat unity, but are also identical to those of the 1970s domestic terrorist group, the Symbionese Liberation Army. Nor is it noted that in 1971 Karenga was convicted of torturing two women who were members of United Slaves, a black nationalist cult he had established.


[Link: faultlineusa.blogspot.com...]

The Rev. Wright's past as a Muslim is elusive................hard to find alot...........but the Marxist liberation theology thing is a BIGG

87 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:41:48am

Bigg ie

ie

88 kawfytawk  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:41:56am

re: #81 debutaunt

How much are you charging for the snake oil?


it's always free when it comes from Oprah....its the "big give"...dontcha know

89 spikester  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:41:56am

re: #72 kawfytawk

No kool-aid here. That's found at Kos

90 rappmandu  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:42:04am

Pay for everything in Change!

If anyone complains, tell them "Don't be downright mean, I'm all jammed up, doggone it!"

91 doppelganglander  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:42:04am

re: #59 Ringo the Gringo

Funny you should say that. Mona Charen posted this at The Corner:

My own theory, FWIW, is that Obama acquired his far left views at least in part to make himself as authentically black as he could to compensate for having a white mother. His mother, of course, was very left herself. But looking the way he does, and having been raised among only white people (mother and maternal grandparents) he felt the need to better identify with his black heritage. That struggle is what the book is all about.

Which could explain why he's drawn to a guy who sounds like a Black Panther. Maybe he's sort of a Beige Panther.

92 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:42:27am
93 RedWhiteAndJew  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:42:29am

Lessee:

* It's racist to refer to B. Hussein Obama by his full name.
* It's racist to observe Hussein's (public) spiritual adviser is a racist.
* It's racist to point out that Hussein's security detail consists of followers
of a deranged racist anti-Semite who believes blacks are descendants of
space aliens.
* It's racist to not mention race when it is to Hussein's advantage to
mention race.
* It's racist to photograph Hussein surrounded by people darker-skinned
or fairer-skinned than he.
* It's racist to fail to calibrate your photographic, video, and printing
equipment to the Obamatonetm color calibration system.

am I missing anything...

oh yeah.

It's racist to not vote for Hussein.

94 spikester  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:42:54am

re: #90 rappmandu

Soon that's all we will have in our pockets.

95 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:43:18am
96 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:43:38am

Question for the "Reverend"; since according to you, we deserved 9/11... has AQ bagged their "fair" limit of Americans? Or how many more of us do you think they have the right to kill?

Oh, that question's for you, too, Senator Obama.

97 Ojoe  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:43:40am
And that means the story is not being mentioned in most of the daily newspapers of the United States.

That's OK we are taking up the slack here and you may be sure the Republicans will pay to have it aired when the time comes.

98 spikester  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:44:00am

re: #92 savage_nation

---slapping fore head with palm of hand--

Next time. Two types and Slaw.

99 BackwardsBoy  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:44:02am

Since this excuse of a preacher is so critical of his home, would he be kind enough to provide an example of the perfect society? And then be kind enough to move there?

100 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:44:02am

re: #80 Killgore Trout
Sorry to say this Killgore, but I think you're wrong about the press ignoring this for long. See my #30 for the reasons why and REMEMBER Hillary hasn't gotten her machine warmed up over this.......yet.

101 ErislDysnomia  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:44:03am

re: #84 realwest

And Hillary hasn't even started on him and Obama!

Not to mention Bill ...

Making some popcorn and gettin' in the comfy chair for those lil' scenes.

102 ModerateWolverine  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:44:48am

It's a shame when it hits the mainstream media, they're not asking the real questions like why did he choose this guy to be his pastor? They're asking why the Clinton or McCain campaign brought this up now?

103 kawfytawk  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:44:50am

McCain said last night while sucking up to Obama, that Obama doesn't subscribe to the beliefs of Rev. Wright.....McCain better pull his head out of his arse and quick....or this will be one more issue that he is on the wrong side

104 looking closely  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:45:04am

The closer Obama gets to the election, the more of this sort of stuff will leak out.

Ultimately it won't matter.

Obama will simply distance himself from his church (as he has already started to), and most of his supporters simply don't care.

105 zmdavid  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:45:38am

The Communists lost the Cold War. Now we see what happens when the losers of a war get to write the history.

106 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:45:38am

His mother was a stone cold whore of Gramsci that WANTED desperately to raise a"revolutionary black child...."

Obama's RELIGION is Opportunistic Commislamist Whore of Gramscian Black Nationalist Churchianity

107 Lobosan5  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:45:46am

do you think this guy has noticed how 'white' some of the muslims are?....wonder how he reconciles that.

108 rawmuse  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:45:46am

re: #103 kawfytawk

McCain said last night while sucking up to Obama, that Obama doesn't subscribe to the beliefs of Rev. Wright.....McCain better pull his head out of his arse and quick....or this will be one more issue that he is on the wrong side

McCain is looking like Bob Dole redux, only less competent.

109 spikester  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:45:57am

re: #100 realwest

Hillary won't have to worry about this. The only time she goes to church is for a fund raiser (not for the church).

110 EC Marm  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:45:58am

re: #80 Killgore Trout

I don't think so. Black racism is tolerated in society. Listen to the black urban radio stations in any large city and you'll hear the same thing. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and Calypso Louie have been spewing this stuff nationally for a long time. I don't think the press is going to be interested in this story.


Since you mentioned Sharpton, this is what he said about the Obama/Wright connection,last year:

In recent weeks, word of Mr. Obama’s treatment of Mr. Wright has reached black leaders like the Rev. Al Sharpton and given them pause.

“I have not discussed this with Senator Obama in detail, but I can see why callers of mine and other clergymen would be concerned, because the issue is standing by your own pastor,” Mr. Sharpton said. [Link: www.nytimes.com...]


From March of last year...


So, Sharpton said at that time Obama should stand by his man.
111 chinesearithmetic  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:46:03am

Sunday on the South Side sounds like Friday in Riyadh on tape delay

112 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:46:15am

re: #105 zmdavid

The Communists lost the Cold War

the "Cold War" never ended.

113 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:46:21am

re: #86 BabbaZee Just a superb post. Thank you very much for that.

114 pegcity  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:46:24am

Big suprise his church are supporters of the nation of islam, they sure sound like minded.

115 snowcrash  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:46:27am

re: #76 nyc redneck

He is not a screaming lunatic to them. He is a spiritual adviser.

116 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:46:39am

the liberal media has no real values or standards. they will manipulate the system to get hussein in. it's despicable how they will overlook the most vile and egregious behavior to facilitate the left. hussein is dangerous. it is becoming obvious. his past will come out.

117 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:46:40am

re: #106 BabbaZee

His mother was a stone cold whore of Gramsci that WANTED desperately to raise a"revolutionary black child...."

Obama's RELIGION is Opportunistic Commislamist Whore of Gramscian Black Nationalist Churchianity

Cool! I'm gonna increase my tithe.

118 wahabicorridor  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:46:41am

re: #103 kawfytawk

McCain said last night while sucking up to Obama, that Obama doesn't subscribe to the beliefs of Rev. Wright.....McCain better pull his head out of his arse and quick....or this will be one more issue that he is on the wrong side


No McCain should stay the hell away from it. This is a gift horse whose mouth will do it all for him....................

119 saberry0530  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:47:12am

re: #106 BabbaZee

If I could have plussed ya a +20 on that one , I would have.

120 kawfytawk  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:47:25am

re: #108 rawmuse

McCain is looking like Bob Dole redux, only less competent.


you got that right....I am still steaming mad that he was chosen as my candidate

121 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:47:26am

re: #113 realwest

I have posted that everywhere LOL

Sorry

122 bluegrass boy  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:47:35am

re: #93 RedWhiteAndJew

Lessee:

* It's racist to refer to B. Hussein Obama by his full name.
* It's racist to observe Hussein's (public) spiritual adviser is a racist.
* It's racist to point out that Hussein's security detail consists of followers
of a deranged racist anti-Semite who believes blacks are descendants of
space aliens.
* It's racist to not mention race when it is to Hussein's advantage to
mention race.
* It's racist to photograph Hussein surrounded by people darker-skinned
or fairer-skinned than he.
* It's racist to fail to calibrate your photographic, video, and printing
equipment to the Obamatonetm color calibration system.

am I missing anything...

oh yeah.

It's racist to not vote for Hussein.

this is the most racist thing ive ever read....say change 100 times or risk your personal salvation...

123 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:47:47am

re: #119 saberry0530

thanks!

124 sparrowlake  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:47:58am

Pardon me if I have missed this, but:
Where is the outpouring of condemnation from the mainstream black Christian religious community?

125 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:48:00am
126 BulgarWheat  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:48:08am

re: #120 kawfytawk

Wonder when John McCain is going to start doing Viagra commercials?

127 Grok the Fullness  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:48:10am

re: #68 wahabicorridor


Oprah has taken down all references to Wright. LMAO!

How many times has that lady blimped out and then peddled a diet book as she lost weight with a "lifechanging" load of shit? 3....4?

Another snake oil "happiness" snake making a buck from empty change.

128 deseeded  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:48:12am

I look forward to a future where the Associated Press and Al-Reuters reporters and management are extinct.

129 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:48:13am

re: #117 debutaunt

ya crackin' me up kid...... lol

130 maddogg  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:48:16am

Prediction:

Once Obama puts "the Beast" back in the box, he will start to go up against some real resistance (McCain) and his campaign will fold up like a card castle. OR, "The Beast" will fight to the bitter bloody end whilst pulling out all of the stops in her box of dirty tricks, the Democratic convention becomes a blood bath, and either the Beasties, or Obamites will stay home in disgust on election day.

Either way, we win.

131 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:48:44am

re: #125 savage_nation

I can take it, LOL!

132 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:48:45am
133 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:49:12am
134 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:49:47am

Obamanable Snowjobman's Gramscian Goose is cooked.

It's just a matter of time and pressure now.

135 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:49:48am

re: #129 BabbaZee

ya crackin' me up kid...... lol

You do all the hard set up work!

136 spikester  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:49:51am

re: #106 BabbaZee

OCWGBNC?

137 alegrias  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:49:57am

re: #86 BabbaZee

* * *
Wow Babba Zee, just Wow! How can "Pastor W" be a former mohameddan?

Certainly there's less scrutiny if you're a "United" Church of Protestants.

That's clever Taqqiya fakery on the outside, but same ol', same ol' jihadist message on the inside.

138 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:50:03am

re: #133 savage_nation

HA Bring it on!
lololol

139 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:50:14am

re: #84 realwest

I saw that -- your absolutely right about them not being able to ignore him. That said, we still need to keep up the talk.

140 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:50:16am

re: #137 alegrias

MMMM HMMM!

141 Tumulus11  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:50:27am
'Barack Obama's pastor has blamed the United States for bringing the 9/11 attacks upon itself and has said Hillary Rodham Clinton 'ain't never been called a [-]-----,' a review of his sermons reveals.

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who for decades ministered at Obama's Trinity United Church of Christ on the South Side of Chicago, has also preached about the vast influence of "rich white people" and slammed Clinton from the pulpit for never having experienced the suffering of African-Americans.

"Jesus was a poor black man who lived in a country and who lived in a culture that was controlled by rich white people," Wright preached in one Christmas sermon.


'The Romans were rich. The Romans were Italian, which means they were European, which means they were white. And the Romans ran everything in Jesus' country.'

But Obama was different, Wright said.

'He ain't white, he ain't rich, and he ain't privileged. Hillary fits the mold,' he said.

'Hillary never had a cab whiz past her and not pick her up because her skin was the wrong color. Hillary never had to worry about being pulled over in her car . . . Hillary ain't never been called a [-]-----.'
// New York Post

. The mainstream media can't keep this story in check. If they try to spike the story, it will become mainstream via the blogosphere.

142 wahabicorridor  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:50:36am

re: #127 Grok the Fullness

Oprah has taken down all references to Wright. LMAO!

I just refreshed the link I posted - it's still there

143 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:50:38am

re: #139 Lucius Septimius

Lucius - when will news come?

144 kawfytawk  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:50:44am

re: #118 wahabicorridor

No McCain should stay the hell away from it. This is a gift horse whose mouth will do it all for him....................


Not when you got Obama followers complete with glazed eyes who will ignore anything and then there sits McCain patting the rest on the head saying "go back to sleep, nothing to see here"

145 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:51:05am

re: #136 spikester

OCWGBNC?

LOLOLOL
Say it ten times fast!

146 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:51:18am

re: #137 alegrias

* * *
Wow Babba Zee, just Wow! How can "Pastor W" be a former mohameddan?

Certainly there's less scrutiny if you're a "United" Church of Protestants.

That's clever Taqqiya fakery on the outside, but same ol', same ol' jihadist message on the inside.

It's a loud damn 'sleeper' cell, isn't it?

147 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:51:20am

re: #97 Ojoe We won't have to wait for the Republicans to bring out the Racist Rev and Obama's extremely close ties to him.
Hillary will do it first - and probably better - than the Republicans will.

148 ErislDysnomia  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:51:23am

re: #106 BabbaZee

Opportunistic Commislamist Whore of Gramscian Black Nationalist Churchianity

Wow...what a phrase...you need to put the ™ symbol after it.

149 antishock8  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:51:32am

re: #104 looking closely

The closer Obama gets to the election, the more of this sort of stuff will leak out.

Ultimately it won't matter.

Obama will simply distance himself from his church (as he has already started to), and most of his supporters simply don't care.

This is exactly what is happening. :(

150 kawfytawk  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:51:40am

re: #126 BulgarWheat

Wonder when John McCain is going to start doing Viagra commercials?


just a matter of time

151 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:51:43am
152 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:51:50am

Never mind the frothing at the mouth racist posing as a man of God.

153 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:52:25am

re: #130 maddogg

Prediction:

Once Obama puts "the Beast" back in the box, he will start to go up against some real resistance (McCain) and his campaign will fold up like a card castle. OR, "The Beast" will fight to the bitter bloody end whilst pulling out all of the stops in her box of dirty tricks, the Democratic convention becomes a blood bath, and either the Beasties, or Obamites will stay home in disgust on election day.

Either way, we win.

More or less, that is what I suspect will happen. Actually a fair number of the "Beasties" as you call them will very likely end up going for McCain.

154 Ben Hur  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:52:28am

Threadworthy:

'Ma'aleh Adumim, Palestine'

Ma'aleh Adumim resident Julian Czarny woke up recently to discover that he lived in "Palestine" - at least according to the popular Internet social networking site Facebook.

Facebook no longer allows members from Ma'aleh Adumim, Ariel, Betar Illit and other settlements over the Green Line to list their hometowns as situated in Israel, but instead provides only a preset location, with their country listed as "Palestine."

"Someone at Facebook is simply prejudging whatever may or may not come about in future negotiations," said Czarny. "Who exactly decided on this computerized transfer of over a quarter-million Jews from Israel to Palestine?"

Well, at least they have a state in a virtual world.

155 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:52:48am

re: #115 snowcrash

He is not a screaming lunatic to them. He is a spiritual adviser.

and apparently he's still a political advisor on hussein's campaign.

156 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:52:49am

re: #124 sparrowlake

Pardon me if I have missed this, but:
Where is the outpouring of condemnation from the mainstream black Christian religious community?

There's lots of it actually but you have to be in or around the mainstream black religious communities to hear it

Not so mainstream black condemnation of Obama

157 kawfytawk  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:52:53am

well folks...gotta run.

Daughter is taking me out for a spa treatment....she's so sweet. :O)

158 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:52:55am

re: #143 BabbaZee

Lucius - when will news come?

Hard to say, but probably not until next week. You know how these test things go.

159 ErislDysnomia  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:52:58am

re: #127 Grok the Fullness

Oprah has taken down all references to Wright. LMAO!

Capture them! Capture them!

160 loppyd  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:53:03am

Lets not forget he sought spiritual counsel from this man before he decided to run for president.

Can you imagine what was said?

161 snowcrash  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:53:05am

I predict a big discrepancy in exit polling numbers in the PA primary in April. People are hearing more about Obamas connections and will vote accordingly. They will not be able to truthfully disclose their votes for fear of being callled racist.

162 laZardo  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:53:08am

re: #141 Tumulus11

It should already be mainstream round this blogosphere...

163 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:53:16am

re: #148 ErislDysnomia

LOL
I need that for a lot of my phrases.
I don't know how to do it!

164 RedWhiteAndJew  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:53:16am
Thus far, Obama's damage control has been lame at best - how exactly can you get the context of those kinds of statements where they'd ever be appropriate?

Hussein's handlers are playing this well. They know that repudiating the words of a racist black preacher won't go over well with the likely sizable contingent of pro-black//anti-white/Jew types who intend to vote for him. Also, his handlers know there is a likely even larger demographic of useful idiots who hang on his every word and are blithely unaware of his choice of church; useful idiots who lap up the MSM drivel and immediately dismiss out of hand anything from FOX, WSJ, the Washington Times, etc. that might snap them out of their stupor. If acknowledgments of Wright's wrongs issues from Hussein's own mouth, some of those useful idiots might snap out of their election-season swoon.

165 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:53:27am

re: #158 Lucius Septimius

ok

166 spikester  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:53:39am

re: #145 BabbaZee

OCWGBNC, OCWGBNC, OCWGBNC, OCWGBNC, OCWGBNC, OCWGBNC,
OCWGBNC, OCWGCNB. OWGCNND, OGGWBCT,

SIHIT.

167 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:53:51am

re: #160 loppyd

Lets not forget he sought spiritual counsel from this man before he decided to run for president.

Can you imagine what was said?

Yes I can

168 loppyd  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:54:00am

re: #161 snowcrash

I predict a big discrepancy in exit polling numbers in the PA primary in April. People are hearing more about Obamas connections and will vote accordingly. They will not be able to truthfully disclose their votes for fear of being callled racist.

If Hillary wins PA there is going to be a blood bath leading up to the convention.

169 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:54:00am

re: #134 BabbaZee

Obamanable Snowjobman's Gramscian Goose is cooked.

It's just a matter of time and pressure now.

I so hope you're right. But I fear that too many are already sleepwalking into Change-o-topia.

170 Grok the Fullness  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:54:02am

re: #142 wahabicorridor


weird....I'm getting a "0 results found" for "wright" when i click it....

171 ExitRamp  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:54:16am

The political and so-called religious rhetoric coming from this pulpit is inconsistent with the IRS definitons of a charitable organization. I would expect continued disclosure to alert our beloved government agency to do a little investigating.

(chuckle)

172 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:54:28am

re: #151 savage_nation

sexist, racist homophobe! Did I miss anything?

Oh, yeah, your a Zionist too. No dinner at the UN for you, young lady!

You forgot Nazi.

173 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:54:29am

re: #104 looking closely
According to his tax returns he gave this "church" $22,500.00 and in his book Obama refers to the Racist Rev as his "Spiritual advisor" and Obama still has him on a campaign committe.
No, Obama can't distance himself from the Racist Rev all that easily, and maybe not at all.

174 EC Marm  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:54:42am

re: #163 BabbaZee

LOL
I need that for a lot of my phrases.
I don't know how to do it!


The "&" and "trade" together
Trade &trade

175 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:54:45am
176 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:55:01am

re: #172 BabbaZee Kindly check your e-mail when you get a chance!

177 loppyd  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:55:03am

And tell me how anyone can let their children be exposed to such language week in and week out.

178 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:55:05am

re: #169 Occasional Reader

I so hope you're right. But I fear that too many are already sleepwalking into Change-o-topia.

I don't think he will even get the nomination
but I have been saying that from the get

gotta go BBL

179 laZardo  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:55:27am

re: #154 Ben Hur

They want to do that on my art site as well...

180 eon  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:55:43am

re: #42 Killgore Trout

Oprah’s boards burning with Wright responses; Wright accuses America of creating the HIV virus




The only way we can maintain our standard of living is by making sure that Third World people live in grinding poverty.

OK, Rev, then explain to me why the United States contributes more aid (food, financial, etc.) the Third World every year than the rest of the developed world put together?

In case he can't grasp the concept, the reason the Third World is a poverty-ridden disaster area/shithole is not that we're robbing them.

The robbery is purely local- carried out every day by their own governments, most of which are little more than illiterate thugs who just happen to have guns and be faster on the draw than anyone else in the neighborhood, and are also generally crazier into the bargain.

Just about as thoroughgoingly crackers as the Rev, and sharing a lot of his delusions, as well.

And please note, Rev, that the usual list of targets for their five-finger "liberations" invariably include the aid we send to their so-called countries. You might want to take that up with the group that's usually in charge of delivery services.

It's called the United Nations.

cheers

eon

181 zmdavid  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:55:44am

re: #156 BabbaZee

There's lots of it actually but you have to be in or around the mainstream black religious communities to hear it

Not so mainstream black condemnation of Obama


So the media only think you are authentically black if you hate America? (rhetorical question - of course they think that!)

182 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:55:50am

In late ...

If Obama gets the nomination, perhaps McCain and the GOP will tiptoe around the Wright issue, knowing that the conservative blogosphere certainly won't.

I have a hunch that more will come out regarding the congregation of that church -- the types of activities, causes, statements, programs, etc, which it supports. You can't have Wright's type of vitriol coming from a pulpit for that long and have a congregation not get into the act in some fashion.

183 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:56:06am
184 spikester  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:56:15am

re: #175 buzzsawmonkey

KO is Wright without a church.

185 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:57:01am
186 laZardo  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:57:22am

re: #180 eon

Ingratitude.

/in one word, anyway

187 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:57:42am

re: #178 BabbaZee

I don't think he will even get the nomination

Which will mean, of course, that his election was STOLEN by whitey.

(Reminding self to stock up on more ammo)

188 loppyd  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:57:43am

re: #183 savage_nation

Would anyone have a pit bull around a baby?

Never.

189 EC Marm  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:57:58am

re: #182 pre-Boomer Marine brat

In late ...

If Obama gets the nomination, perhaps McCain and the GOP will tiptoe around the Wright issue, knowing that the conservative blogosphere certainly won't.


I think there's something to that. The press loves to tag (R)s as "mean."
We'll do the heavy lifting for him, he can stay above the ruckus.

190 pat  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:58:00am

I wonder if this isn't mainstream in the black churches. Anyone know?

191 laZardo  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:58:06am

re: #185 savage_nation

No, but Zionists are! Think, man!

/moonbat-sarc

192 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:58:07am

re: #118 wahabicorridor

And what his mouth won't do, Hillary sure as hell will. This is THE big chance she's been waiting for.
The Racist Rev's ties to Obama are too long and too deep for Obama to "distance" himself - see my #30 above (waaaay above, LOL!).

193 gymnast  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:58:45am

Noah Robinson, Reverend Wright, El Rukn, Jesse Jackson, Barak Obama. Google the string.

194 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:59:14am

re: #121 BabbaZee Why "sorry"? It's STILL a GREAT damn post!

195 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:59:28am
196 Lucius Septimius  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 9:59:50am

BBL

197 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:00:16am

re: #180 eon

In case he can't grasp the concept, the reason the Third World is a poverty-ridden disaster area/shithole is not that we're robbing them.

Don't you understand? Every day, US Marines are swooping into places like Sierra Leone and Bolivia, and stealing the native populations' iPods, Hummers, and broadband wireless routers, and then re-selling them in the US. That's the only reason those people are poor and we're rich. We're taking all that cool stuff from them.

198 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:00:25am

Tax the churches.

199 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:00:28am
200 pat  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:00:55am

re: #189 EC Marm

I think there's something to that. The press loves to tag (R)s as "mean."
We'll do the heavy lifting for him, he can stay above the ruckus.

It is also an excellent way to lose an election. If you do not confront your opponents faults, the MSM is then in charge. McCain is under the delusion he still has friends in the press. I remember Bush trying to be nice to the likes of John King only to be embarrassed in public for his efforts.

201 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:00:58am

re: #139 Lucius Septimius Amen! (sorry, just couldn't resist!).

202 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:01:05am
203 Ben Hur  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:01:12am
204 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:01:16am

re: #183 savage_nation

Would anyone have a pit bull around a baby?

Absolutely no goddam way.

205 spikester  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:01:21am

re: #198 Killgore Trout

NO! Why would you want to let the Gubberment in to the chapel?

206 maddogg  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:01:22am

re: #153 Lucius Septimius

Picture this: "The Beast" gets a royal reaming at the convention (possible) In severe anger, she pulls a Lieberman and goes independent. Runs for POTUS as such.

Would that be juicy, or what?

207 christheprofessor  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:01:33am

re: #142 wahabicorridor

I just refreshed the link I posted - it's still there

I get nothing as well...

208 Fasternu426  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:01:41am

But let Pat Robertson open his mouth and it's all over the news......

209 Scoobie  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:01:56am

Coming soon - Expect Obama to claim he really is a Muslim in order to distance himself from the Reverend Wright. Radical Islam seems to hate America a lot less than Reverend Wright.

210 sparrowlake  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:02:21am

re: #183 savage_nation

Sounds like his parents have the right idea.

211 sundog  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:02:40am
And the kicker is that Oprah Winfrey is also a congregant of this guy.

That's not possible. According to Wright, Oprah Winfrey doesn't exist. In 2006, he said the following to Jesse Jackson: "No black man will ever be considered for president, no matter how hard you run, Jesse, and no black woman can ever be considered for anything outside what she can give with her body."

Oprah Winfrey has a net worth of $2.5 billion, was listed in the Time 100, and is frequently described as "the most influential woman in the world."

And let's not even think about Condoleezza Rice. A black woman as Secretary of State? Impossible. Jeremiah Wright says so.

212 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:02:57am

re: #156 BabbaZee Geez another great post - well link, actually! LOL!

213 ciaospirit  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:03:15am

Look at this media gem.

Calling all aspiring filmmakers, especially those who like Barack Obama.

MoveOn.org, the influential antiwar group that claims 3.2 million members, announced yesterday that it is holding a contest to create a 30-second television advertisement promoting the Democrat.

The prize: The spot will air nationally and the winner will get a $20,000 gift certificate for a camera and editing package.

After an online vote to pick 15 finalists. The judges include Boston-bred stars Ben Affleck and Matt Damon, whose low-budget movie "Good Will Hunting" launched them to stardom; filmmaker Oliver Stone; civil rights leader Jesse Jackson; and musicians John Legend, Moby, and Eddie Vedder.

In a Web video announcing the contest, dubbed "Obama in 30 seconds," Eli Pariser, MoveOn.org's executive director, says: "Grass-roots energy helped propel Barack Obama into victory after victory. And now we need your grass-roots creativity to help put Barack Obama over the top."

The group, which has endorsed Obama, held a contest in 2004 for ads opposing President Bush. The winner showed children picking up trash and working on assembly lines with the message: "Guess who's going to pay off President Bush's $1 trillion deficit?"

Entries must show Obama in a positive light, cannot mention Hillary Clinton, and can reference John McCain or Bush only in contrast to Obama.

214 eon  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:03:54am

re: #197 Occasional Reader

Don't you understand? Every day, US Marines are swooping into places like Sierra Leone and Bolivia, and stealing the native populations' iPods, Hummers, and broadband wireless routers, and then re-selling them in the US. That's the only reason those people are poor and we're rich. We're taking all that cool stuff from them.

Yeah, and we're not even getting wholesale for it , either!

We're not just crooks, we're dumb, too.

/actually, putting the Obameister in the Oval Office would be proof of that

cheers

eon

215 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:04:16am
216 blue eyed music lover  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:04:20am

We all know these tapes are fakes concocted by the VRWC VGFC (the vast Geraldine Ferraro Conspiracy.)

217 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:04:33am

Hey Wright and obama, F**k you!

218 spikester  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:04:38am

re: #211 sundog

"the most influential woman in the world."
What a sad state of affairs.

219 Honorary Yooper  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:04:49am

re: #198 Killgore Trout

Tax the churches.

Not a good idea, IMHO. This is why the First Amendment exists (not to divide government and church, but to keep the government out of the churches).

220 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:04:56am
221 Roentgen  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:05:14am

...like a vast left-wing conspiracy...

222 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:05:35am

re: #215 savage_nation

I wouldnt either, but I thought it was just me that thinks that.

I would shoot the f**king thing myself.

(I mean the pit bull, not the shit-for-brains son in law. At least, I'm pretty sure that's what I mean.)

223 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:05:46am

re: #168 loppyd I don't think Hillary has any chance of winning in PA - too many Black voters in Philly and Pittsburg and they've been voting for Obama like 90+%.
But Hillary will - through cut outs, of course, bring out everything I put in #30 and Babba put in #86.

224 eon  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:05:49am

re: #209 Scoobie

Coming soon - Expect Obama to claim he really is a Muslim in order to distance himself from the Reverend Wright. Radical Islam seems to hate America a lot less than Reverend Wright.

No, he's really a member of the UMMO religion.

Waiting for the UFOs to arrive.

/along with Dennis Kucinich

cheers

eon

225 VegasRick  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:06:29am

re: #220 savage_nation

RACIST!

When your race is america haters, I am!

226 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:06:37am
227 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:06:42am
228 Occasional Reader  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:06:49am

re: #211 sundog

and no black woman can ever be considered for anything outside what she can give with her body."

Oprah Winfrey has a net worth of $2.5 billion

Yeah, but she got all that money for having such a fabulous body. Or something like that.

229 Dasher  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:07:07am

Barack Hussein Obama claims to be qualified to be President... from his vast experience of 3 years in the US Senate. Two years of which he has been running for President. I guess it is too bad that another equally qualified Senator is not running, Sheldon Whitehouse. Who is that you say... another equally qualified Democrat Junior Senator from Rhode Island, but he is unheard of out side of RI. I only wish the same were true for BHO.

Where I come from BHO = Browser Helper Object :=)

230 snowcrash  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:07:10am

The only reason I can vaguely understand the HIV conspiracy mindset in Rev. Wright is because of the Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in black men that happened here in America in the 30's and 40's. A lot of the bio medical ethical rules today have evolved from this. There is a seed that has germinated from this event that is still in the Black Community and it is difficult to enroll Blacks in health studies because of it.

231 gop_patriot  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:07:24am

re: #86 BabbaZee

Well, I don't know where I've been, but I didn't know that Wright had been a muslim. Good Lord, his whole "Christian" life might be a huge giant helping of taqiyya. A cover for preaching Marxism, socialism, black nationalism... 'cause I sure haven't heard much actual Christianity coming from his "Christian" sermons.

If he was previously a Muslim, but isn't now, why hasn't he been
fatwa-ed?

232 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:07:24am

re: #185 savage_nation

Jews aren't Nazis, not that I know of....

Never stopped anyone from calling me one though... lol

233 spikester  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:07:43am

re: #213 ciaospirit

$20,000 X .45=$9000.00 (that's your take home)
after state and Fed income tax

234 sparrowlake  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:07:50am

re: #156 BabbaZee

There's lots of it actually but you have to be in or around the mainstream black religious communities to hear it

Not so mainstream black condemnation of Obama

Pardon my skepticism.
I can't believe that the right-wing media and blogs wouldn't have picked it up.
Are they perhaps afraid to speak up? Or even worse?

235 Grok the Fullness  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:08:05am

re: #183 savage_nation


shoot "shit-for-brains" and take the child back in until she has the baby and can stabilize and grow up. It's make or break time and the baby is the priority. Good luck!

236 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:08:36am

re: #190 pat

I wonder if this isn't mainstream in the black churches. Anyone know?

It is not mainstream in "black" churches
it is mainstream in whore of gramsci churches of both colors

UCC WCC especially

237 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:08:47am

bbl

238 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:08:59am
239 Vergeltung  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:09:28am

re: #187 Occasional Reader

(Reminding self to stock up on more ammo)

heh. I am planning to upgrade the home defense collection with my tax return. that's kinda cool, right? ;)

240 zmdavid  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:09:50am

I think the Rev. Wright meshes well with what is taught in the various Victim Studies departments at nearly every University.

241 EC Marm  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:10:07am

re: #200 pat

It is also an excellent way to lose an election. If you do not confront your opponents faults, the MSM is then in charge. McCain is under the delusion he still has friends in the press. I remember Bush trying to be nice to the likes of John King only to be embarrassed in public for his efforts.


Google "Bob Dole mean" for more.

Well, I think because we are portrayed almost immediately by the press, we are painted into a corner, so to speak. We wear labels, one is liberal or conservative or moderate. And Bob Dole has had the image, I think, over the years that he is somehow either dark or mean-spirited, and it's an image that doesn't fit the character because the character that we know is a generous and loving person. Someone who has suffered tremendous hardship and overcome that hardship, who identifies with the under-dog, the handicapped, the under-privileged, and you really never get to see much of that. He covers a lot of it up with a wit that in the past seemed a bit too sharp for some people but in more recent years he has turned toward himself, and I think you saw really a glimpse of the best of Bob Dole today, and that's the Bob Dole that everyone turned out to see.


I understand what you're saying, but there is a line in politics. The Dems have a line four lanes wide, while the (R) has to thread the yellow line in the middle.

242 Catttt  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:10:11am

In a weird way, this is interesting, because now local newspapers will have to write their own copy on the matter. For example, my local paper, the Baltimore Sun is covering it

here

in a piece on their blog that includes a video clip and a quote from the WSJ's article, which ends thus:

The media have largely ignored Mr. Obama's close association with Mr. Wright. This raises legitimate questions about Mr. Obama's fundamental beliefs about his country. Those questions deserve a clearer answer than Mr. Obama has provided so far.

Granted, this is on the opinion area of the site. The front page also has a video box. If you go through the available vids, there is a CNN clip. If you listen, the clip is imho fair and balanced.

243 beens21  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:10:14am

*

I would invite anyone to take a look at the United Church of Christ website and read their statement of faith and what they stand for. I believe this might better explain why Obama joined the church and continues to attend. Ministers come and go, but the congregation is always there. I would hate to be held personally responsible for any statement my minister made in church. And I have to think that when giving sermons to a church of mostly african-americans, you are going to have to address what affects the congregation directly. I'm just glad to see a candidate that belongs to church that is progressive, believes in being all inclusive, and gives hope to people. Contrast this with our standing president and other republicans who chose to give speeches at colleges that would put us back in the middle ages. I'll take Rev. Wright over that anytime.

I am not afraid of the pen, or the scaffold, or the sword. I will tell the truth wherever I please.

by mundog50 on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 09:42:54 AM PDT

from a commenter at the KOS, blogger then makes argument that everything that Wright says is true.

244 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:11:02am
245 RedWhiteAndJew  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:11:13am

savage_nation, regarding the pit bull:

No. I love dogs, and I know of folks with pit bulls who are lovely fuzz balls (the pit bulls, not the owners). That said, breeding is breeding, and pit bulls are bread for viciousness, much like Labs are bread to be human-love sponges. As for the nurture side of the argument, much, if not most, of a dog's behavior is a function of his training and his master's demeanor. From the brief impression you give of this piece of work, I'd say the combo of nature and nurture you've disclosed is a disaster waiting to happen.

246 sparrowlake  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:11:37am

re: #238 savage_nation

They may be nice dogs indeed, but I jsut dont trust them. Something in their genetic code.

In my opinion, they ought to wait till the baby turns 3 and is taught not to be mean to an animal.

They oughta wait until the baby knows how to use a gun.

247 alegrias  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:11:37am

What's sad is that Illinois voters elected Obama, and rejected Republican Alan Keyes' candidacy to be their Senator in 2000, after Keyes ran as a presidential candidate against George W. Bush and John Sidney McCain that spring.

Alan Keyes is Harvard educated, a stunning speaker, former Reagan ambassador, former roommate of Bill Kristol the Editor of the Weekly Standard, and a well versed religious motivational speaker, if you're interested in having that in your senator.

Alan Keyes seemed to think America is a special wonderful BLESSED place.

248 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:11:42am
249 loppyd  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:11:51am

re: #223 realwest

We'll see. Obama may carry the urban vote, but I think Hillary will kill him in the rest of the state.

250 FQ Kafir  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:12:15am

I found this watered-down passage at this AP website.

Obama Tries To Allay Jewish Concerns

Obama's own pastor has a history of supporting Palestinian causes.

And there are questions about Obama advisers who some U.S. Jews see as less than ardent advocates of Israel.

It seems like anti-Americanism goes hand in hand with antisemitism.

251 spikester  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:12:34am

re: #226 buzzsawmonkey

I concur. I raised Staffordshire's for a while. How ever I got the first dog when the baby was about one year old. There for the dog never thought of it as an Alfa. They are great dogs. Loved and protected my boys on more then one occasion. Never bit anyone never even growled at someone he could see. (Didn't have to)

252 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:12:47am
253 eon  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:13:23am

re: #240 zmdavid

I think the Rev. Wright meshes well with what is taught in the various Victim Studies departments at nearly every University.

Nearly every? You mean there are some that don't have one?

This cannot be allowed to continue!

Victim Studies must be made part of the core curriculum of every university in this country!

We can pay for them by dumping all those reactionary, anti-free-thought departments, like Engineering, Chemistry, Physics, and so on.

/now out of multi-culti hustler with room-temperature IQ mode


cheers

eon

254 David Simon  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:14:02am

re: #219 Honorary Yooper

Not a good idea, IMHO. This is why the First Amendment exists (not to divide government and church, but to keep the government out of the churches).

Churches are taxable, but only on their "unrelated business income." In other words, if they receive money for anything other than their exempt purpose, they pay tax on it just like any other business.

255 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:14:09am
256 doppelganglander  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:15:35am

re: #183 savage_nation

Forget the pitbull, I don't think I'd let the baby's father or his family anywhere near your daughter or granddaughter. It sounds like he has no sense of judgment at all. Best case scenario, he gets them kicked out of the apartment for having pets in violation of the lease. Worst case scenario, the pitbull bites the baby, and the in-laws won't let your daughter use their phone to call 911. They wound like bad news all around.

257 spikester  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:15:52am

re: #226 buzzsawmonkey

I concur. I raised Staffordshire's for a while. How ever I got the first dog when the baby was about one year old. Therefor the dog never thought of its self as an Alfa. They are great dogs. Loved and protected my boys on more then one occasion. Never bit anyone never even growled at someone he could see. (Didn't have to)

PIMP

258 Grok the Fullness  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:16:22am

re: #245 RedWhiteAndJew


If a Pit Bull is raised from a pup it can be hands down one of the best breeds for the family. Males should be neutered though. Also, if the dog does not see any of the family as being Alpha, or protected by the Alpha... get rid of it. But that goes for all breeds. Pit Bulls are not genetically vicious, they just have all the tools to be such. Otherwise they can be very loveable, playful and loyal to a fault.

259 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:16:48am

re: #250 FQ Kafir Hasn't it always?

260 Black George Bush  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:17:59am

Wright does not speak for me, thats for sure. They way I deal with my fellow blacks with this attitude is by asking "If America is so horrible, why are you still here?" I see none of these negros on cheap tickets.com buying a one way ticket to the nirvana known as africa or the middle east. I wish they would leave rather than sit here and try to change this land, flaws and all, into the the third world socialist cesspool that they so desire. Wright, stop whining and stop being a victim. As I like to say, I dont vote Democrat because Im no ones victim.

Sorry bout the rant, hi all!

261 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:18:06am
262 LEGION  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:18:17am

Hey, Kudos to Sean Hannity, he was trumpeting this wack job preacher many many months ago and was being scoffed at. Give them a big "I told ya so" Seanie! He was right on Wright!

263 Diamond Bullet  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:18:27am

What's left of ABC still continues to pay attention.

[Link: abcnews.go.com...]

264 alegrias  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:19:09am

re: #248 savage_nation

* * *
Dear Savage, you said the landlord can take action to remove animals which aren't permitted in the premises.

Make the landlord follow the landlord's own rules.

265 jamgarr  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:19:56am

Rev. Wright quotes:

When I get real bored I like to drive downtown and get a real great parking spot, then sit in my car and count how many times I'm hassled by Whitey.

Alot of people are afraid of heights. I'm afraid of whites.

/you get the idea

266 sparrowlake  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:20:09am

re: #236 BabbaZee

It is not mainstream in "black" churches
it is mainstream in whore of gramsci churches of both colors

UCC WCC especially

I don't believe it is mainstream anywhere.
But I suspect there a whole lot of fear, intimidation and/or tacit approval.
To me, this is analogous to the deafening silence of the "moderate" Muslims.
And leaving aside the BHS character issue, this type of incitement to hatred and victimhood is like a cancer which is too dangerous to ignore and must be excised.

267 gop_patriot  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:20:30am

re: #243 beens21

From your quote of the kos person:

I'm just glad to see a candidate that belongs to church that is progressive, believes in being all inclusive, and gives hope to people.

Would this be the same church that doesn't allow whites to join? Or was that just a rumor?

/progressive! hope! barf!

268 wahabicorridor  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:20:38am

re: #248 savage_nation

Savage, I love dogs. My first babysitter was a border collie named Rex. Literally, I barked before I talked. And I'm very good with them too - good enough to have spent a summer helping train German Shepards for the Penna. State Police.

Get rid of that pit bull. They are beautiful, magnificent animals but they need a very special hand - and this one is not getting it. And I don't care what breed, I would never leave a child with ANY dog unsupervised.

269 abolitionist  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:20:53am

re: #213 ciaospirit

This has telltale signs of Soros as the backer:
MoveOn.org, grassroots, a contest in 2004 for ads opposing President Bush...

270 ciaospirit  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:20:53am

re: #233 spikester

$20,000 X .45=$9000.00 (that's your take home)
after state and Fed income tax

It's not about money for these goons. And the bonus. Oooh, they get to hang out with movie stars and and Oliver Stone!

271 Jhn1  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:21:03am

re: #182 pre-Boomer Marine brat

When you have a disagreement with the local church leader of a national faith, you look back at what the traditional doctrine (not always confining yourself to national as in the case of the Anglican community) of that faith espouses. If the local is in disagreement you can, in decently good conscience, stay there as the local is "not really what the faith believes".
When you attend a local church that does not have a national or traditional (international) rooted doctrine, you have to limit your acceptance of doctrine to what the local preaches on the local pulpit.
If you disagree with it, you either have to
1)admit you are wrong and the preacher is (W)right or
2) accept that the local preacher isn't bad enough to not stop supporting them. or
3) find another church to attend and support

That is it. those are your only choices (well variants on those like lying about which one and/or how bad)

Whether Obama's actions were #1 or #2 are not as relevant as the appropriate need to bring up that historical fact that one of thiose two is true and both possibilities reflect in a public way on his judgement. WE are supposed to elect a President that we trust his (her) judgement. Barack Hussien Obama's judgement is completely appropriate for discussion in this, or any other election cycle.
Either he agrees with Wright, or does not find such loathesome statements too bad (certainly not bad enough to have even spoken out of before it was rubbed in his face)

272 eon  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:21:23am

Well, I have to take off, again. Errands to run.

Later, Lizards.

cheers

eon

273 FQ Kafir  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:21:59am

re: #259 realwest

Sigh.

274 RedWhiteAndJew  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:22:04am

#258 Grok the Fullness

Don't get me wrong. I when I wrote "they are bre[a]d for viciousness" that doesn't mean any particular example of a pit bull is going to be so, and that nearly any dog, free of neurological pathologies, can be trained to be all the things you mention.

Still, when I am approached by one, I exercise extra caution, because I know what they are capable of, and I usually don't know their circumstances.

I trust the dogs more than their owners, but the dog is usually going to be faster than me, and have sharper teeth!

275 Terp Mole  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:22:12am

Apologies to CCR:

Jeremiah was a Reverend,
“God-damn” was his favorite line.
They’ll never print a single word of what he said
Unless it helps Obama with his whine.
‘cause liberals love a mighty fine whine.

Sing it:
Bombed Hiroshima!
Bombed Nagasaki!
God-damn America for the indignity,
Hope Audacity!

If Obama was the king of the world,
I tell you what he'd boost.
He'd throw away the tax cuts and the wars overseas
and send chickens home to roost.

Sing it now:
Bombed Hiroshima!
Bombed Nagasaki!
God-damn America for the indignity,
Hope Audacity!

276 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:22:22am

I just gotta say this again: Barrack Hussein Obama, does NOT LIKE AMERICA. WORSE, he doesn't RESPECT AMERICA.
And if you want to know where he gets his dislike and lack of respect, just listen to his spiritual advisor, the Racist Rev.

I do NOT want someone as POTUS who HATES AMERICA.

Y'all ought to do what I've been in the process of doing for some time now - taking the transcripts or the links to the videos of the Racist Rev, quoting Obama's statement that the Racist Rev is his Spiritual Advisor and sending it all to everyone I can - and especially to liberals.
They may not read it, but can NEVER say they didn't know about it.
Oh and btw, just in case, I'm sending it to Hillary's campaign as well.
And YES that takes a lot of time to do.
But to protect America from someone who may very well be elected Presdient who HATES this nation of ours is worth it.
Please y'all, just DO IT.

277 loppyd  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:22:24am

re: #260 Black George Bush

That's why we love you BGB!

278 maddogg  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:22:39am

re: #255 buzzsawmonkey

Buzz, whether pit bulls are "nice" dogs, or not, they have greater potential for violence than most dogs. The name Pit Bull refers to dogfighting, which they are bred for I believe.

That said, I've noticed that the majority of people who actually want a Pit Bull , are the absolutely last people who ought to have one.

279 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:22:54am

re: #260 Black George Bush

Wright does not speak for me, thats for sure. They way I deal with my fellow blacks with this attitude is by asking "If America is so horrible, why are you still here?" I see none of these negros on cheap tickets.com buying a one way ticket to the nirvana known as africa or the middle east. I wish they would leave rather than sit here and try to change this land, flaws and all, into the the third world socialist cesspool that they so desire. Wright, stop whining and stop being a victim. As I like to say, I dont vote Democrat because Im no ones victim.

Sorry bout the rant, hi all!

Rant on.

280 jamgarr  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:23:10am

re: #275 Terp Mole


Apologies to CCR

You mean TDN

281 Grok the Fullness  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:23:12am

re: #260 Black George Bush


and that, my friend, is freedom. Long may you thrive!

282 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:23:24am
283 Catttt  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:23:26am

re: #243 beens21

With all due respect, I truly disagree with a number of things in your post.

*
I would hate to be held personally responsible for any statement my minister made in church.


One day a priest told me how to vote (in essence - they were sneaky about it) during the sermon. I stopped going to that church that day.

And I have to think that when giving sermons to a church of mostly african-americans, you are going to have to address what affects the congregation directly.


The way it works is, when you are a firebrand hot head preacher, you get the congregation that wants to hear what you say. The people who don't want to hear it stop going to that church. Not all African Americans agree with this guy.

I'm just glad to see a candidate that belongs to church that is progressive, believes in being all inclusive, and gives hope to people.


Please define your terms. In particular, how does Senator Obama's belonging to an "inclusive" church fit with the fact that his particular church within that church body is exclusionary?

Contrast this with our standing president and other republicans who chose to give speeches at colleges that would put us back in the middle ages.


Examples? Links? Anything but your opinion?

I'll take Rev. Wright over that anytime.

You are welcome to him. Hate is not progressive, though, nor is it Christian.

284 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:23:39am

re: #231 gop_patriot

Well, I don't know where I've been, but I didn't know that Wright had been a muslim. Good Lord, his whole "Christian" life might be a huge giant helping of taqiyya. A cover for preaching Marxism, socialism, black nationalism... 'cause I sure haven't heard much actual Christianity coming from his "Christian" sermons.

If he was previously a Muslim, but isn't now, why hasn't he been
fatwa-ed?

Aha
there's the rub

No Fatwa
no Apostate

285 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:26:19am
286 loppyd  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:26:42am

re: #282 savage_nation

It's gonna come down to that real soon. I'm gonna head back to NE as soon as I'm finished up with Dads funeral and all that crap. Then some freaking heads are gonna roll.

Don't do anything that will get you arrested jeopardize your relationship with her in the future. It sounds like she is going to need someone to come to for help eventually.

287 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:27:04am

re: #273 FQ Kafir Don't sigh - fight. FIGHT. See my #276 on some ideas of how to fight.

288 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:27:22am
289 EC Marm  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:27:34am

re: #260 Black George Bush

Sorry bout the rant, hi all!


Don't apologize for a good rant. That was good to read.

290 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:27:39am
291 Spider Mensch  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:27:49am

re: #283 Catttt
Cattt, the first part of his post was a quote from kos site...I had to re read it myself when I first read it. he didn't frame his post the way we're used to.

292 carl b  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:28:04am

The story has finally made the Google News front page, but with only 109 related articles. Obviously much less significant than the 935 news articles on Heathrow's new terminal...

293 Ojoe  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:28:20am

re: #275 Terp Mole

Those A-bombs saved my dad's life, he was a fighter pilot in the pacific, he and his buddies to a man did not expect to survive the invasion of the Japanese home islands.

'Pastor' Wright can go to ****.

294 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:28:30am
295 wahabicorridor  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:28:39am

HA! I just thought of something. You know whose heads are going to explode? The Euroweenies. First, there's a good chance that either a black man or a woman may be the next POTUS - so there goes the "Americans are racists and abusive" meme.

Now the black guy is shown not only to be a fairly consistent church goer, but he goes to a racist church.

Man, that's some headache they got goin' in Paris..................

296 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:28:59am

re: #260 Black George Bush Hey my friend - keep on ranting! We simply cannot get out the word that Obama HATES America fast enough, soon enough or to enough people who can't seem to see through Obama's message of "hope" and "change".
And btw, if you would, please see my #30 for ALL the reasons why Obama is so tied into the Racist Rev.

297 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:29:11am

At lunch today, I saw the Wright/Obama story on CNN Headline News. Didn't get to hear the audio, just saw they were doing a story on it.

298 Grok the Fullness  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:29:18am

re: #274 RedWhiteAndJew

I completely concur. I've got a buddy with 2 staffordshires I've known since pups and they still make me pause. Their heads remind me of a Tyrannosaurus Rex.... ;]

I prefer the Patterdale terrier... about 25 pounds of never give up and as sweet as a golden retriever.

299 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:32:22am

re: #282 savage_nation

Dads funeral

The first I've heard of it -- not around here all the time.

Condolences, thoughts, prayers, my friend.

300 Ward Cleaver  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:32:30am

re: #183 savage_nation

I need some advice.

Would anyone have a pit bull around a baby? The reason I ask is because the idiot daddy of my unborn granddaughter has this pit bull puppy that he keeps sneaking into the apartment that wont allow pets. The two lovebirds already got caught by the landlady and if the dog is found around there again, they get evicted. My ex has tried several times to make shit-for-brains get rid of the dog but he won't. If it were up to me, I'd shoot the dog and dump the carcass in a cornfield.

How can my daughter be that damn stupid? She is gonna be living in daddyo's car since his folks wont let him live at their house since he is over 21. And they wont lift a finger to help her either but they are soooooooooooo happy that their son is going to be a father!

My kid went over there once cause she was hungry (since she is eating for 2 now) and they wouldn't give her even a sandwich)

Thoughts?

Make the dog disappear and tell shit-for-brains to get lost.

301 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:33:15am
302 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:33:32am

re: #294 savage_nation

One of my regrets leaving upon NY and my old neighborhood was there was no way for me to get arrested there no matter what I did.

lol

303 gop_patriot  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:33:52am

re: #284 BabbaZee

And if he was an apostate, would Farrakkan (sp) be his pal? I doubt it, have you ever seen Louis' underlings on TV? They're borderline psychotic. No way would they be seen fraternizing with an apostate; how much more so, Louis. Scary, scary, scary that we might possibly have a POTUS with this hateful socialist racist as a spiritual adviser to the WH.

304 combatwombat  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:34:01am

No one should be surprised. The MSM will never let anyone stand in the way of their annointed. If the facts make Obama look bad, the MSM will make it so the facts never existed.

305 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:34:15am
306 Grok the Fullness  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:34:19am

re: #301 savage_nation

clouds are moving in down here in Shasta County.

307 Catttt  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:34:24am

re: #291 Spider Mensch

Cattt, the first part of his post was a quote from kos site...I had to re read it myself when I first read it. he didn't frame his post the way we're used to.

I almost asked but couldn't find any mention. I even went back and looked at his other comments but missed that.

HON - all my comments apply to the Kos person! Sorry!

I'd join Kos and post it there, but they'd probably ban me. You think?

308 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:34:40am

re: #283 Catttt

You read his posts?

Ok.

lol

309 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:35:02am

re: #307 Catttt

OH

Sorry dude

310 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:35:03am
311 alegrias  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:35:14am

re: #295 wahabicorridor

HA! I just thought of something. You know whose heads are going to explode? The Euroweenies. First, there's a good chance that either a black man or a woman may be the next POTUS - so there goes the "Americans are racists and abusive" meme.

Now the black guy is shown not only to be a fairly consistent church goer, but he goes to a racist church.

Man, that's some headache they got goin' in Paris..................

* * *
Hola W. Corridor,
Euros will drink the Koolaid, they still like US hating Harry Belafonte and Hugo Chavez despite their icky associations with Caribbean Gulags, narcotraffickers & murderers.

Did you see where Cuba's soccer team (half) may have defected in Florida today? Bwahaha, men whose heads bounce soccer balls all day have enough sense to LEAVE everything they love to escape Che & Fidel's gulag, but not our rich Americans who should know better.

312 wahabicorridor  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:35:20am

re: #288 savage_nation

She is 11 weeks along as of now. She ought to be showing soon, shouldnt she?

Depends. On what I have no idea. With my sister's first, she showed at 8 weeks, I swear. With her second, she didn't show until 16 or so.

313 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:36:10am

re: #303 gop_patriot

Obamanable Snowjobman will never get the job
So let it be written
So let it be done

314 Grok the Fullness  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:36:33am

re: #310 savage_nation

Born and raised. Love La Pine... in the summer ;p My parents used to have a home their along the Deschutes.

315 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:37:00am

re: #301 savage_nation

Thank you. It's gonna be rough getting home. Weather sucks again, its snowing hard up here in Central Oregon.

You're a tougher man than I am, given the job you do.

316 gop_patriot  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:37:04am

re: #313 BabbaZee

Obamanable Snowjobman will never get the job
So let it be written
So let it be done

From your mouth to God's ear!

317 ciaospirit  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:39:10am

Who would give over $22,000 to a racist hateful church if they didn't believe what that church was promoting? Obama believes it and that's why he donated over $22,000 in 2006.

318 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:39:40am

re: #297 Ward Cleaver
Hey Ward! Hope all is well in the Cleaver household!
Don't worry about the audio - it's CNN and you know they won't report ANY of the stuff in my #30 nor in BabbaZee's #86.
But I don't think they can ignore that shit for long.
Still can't get over Obama giving that church $26,500 last year! (or maybe 2006, saw the return on the DT but don't remember the year, but probably 2006 - I doubt Obama has even filed his 2007 returns - and won't those make for interesting reading!

319 Catttt  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:39:58am

re: #308 BabbaZee

You read his posts?

Ok.

lol

Yeah - I tried. :) Any misunderstanding is the fault of my incompleteness in doing so.

320 m  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:40:24am

re: #41{savage_nation}!

Good morning sunshine! How ya doing? How is your mom doing?

Rev. Wrong can kiss my lily white ass!

321 wahabicorridor  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:40:29am

re: #311 alegrias

Did you see where Cuba's soccer team (half) may have defected in Florida today?

But I thought Raul was so much nicer than Fidel........................

heh

322 swami  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:40:53am

It's viral now, so it's out there.
This is a prime example of the importance of talk radio and the internet.
Without those entities, the Wrong Rev'n Wright would never crack the surface of public knowledge.
He's out there enough to the point that every time a clip of his spittle-flying rants is played, Obama loses a few thousand votes.

Let's hope he gets the nomination. He is becoming Jesse-ized by the day and will be easy pickings by November.

323 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:40:59am
324 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:41:22am

re: #271 Jhn1

Speaking for myself (Methodist), I've picked churches (and left one) when the words from the pulpit didn't match what I believe. I've also had disagreements with positions taken by the (*spit-Liberal*) national church.

In my mind, "no theory, please". It comes down to whom one is.

325 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:41:22am

re: #319 Catttt

I did the same thing which is why I stopped reading them at the first one

Sorry again beens21

326 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:41:58am
327 sparrowlake  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:42:16am

re: #305 savage_nation

Make the dog disappear and tell shit-for-brains to get lost.

Oh, I will. Trust me.

Daddy'o is gonna be educated by me as soon as I get back to NE

You've still got some time.
Maybe first give your daughter a chance to do the right thing.

328 Pope Insouciance IV  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:42:41am

FDR
JFK
Johnson
Carter
Clinton
Obama

The Dems have managed a certain trend in their presidents. Seems the biggest requirement for the next guy is that you're worse than the guy before.
At this rate they'll have to follow Obama by digging up Arafat.

329 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:42:43am

re: #303 gop_patriot Forgetting all about the NOI for a moment, the plain fact of the matter is that OBAMA himself does NOT LIKE AMERICA. Nor respect her.
And he's thisclose to being elected POTUS - the Racist Rev and Louis his own self will forgive Obama anything at this point.

330 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:44:14am

re: #326 savage_nation

It was gorgeous here 3 days ago. 65 and sunny. Now its 31 and snowing like hell.

Watch where you step. Fresh snow can cover up yellow snow.

331 beens21  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:44:24am

re: #283 Catttt

With all due respect, I truly disagree with a number of things in your post.


You are welcome to him. Hate is not progressive, though, nor is it Christian.

I was posting a comment from KOS site .

332 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:44:53am

re: #317 ciaospirit Yep, wonder what he donated in 2007 when he and his wife reportedly made over $1.5 Million?!

333 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:45:35am
334 doppelganglander  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:45:42am

re: #288 savage_nation

He needs a pitbull because he's insecure in his own masculinity and thinks it makes him look like a big man.

As for showing, it depends on how thin or heavy she is, but you can solve the problem by having her pee on a stick.

335 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:46:09am

re: #331 beens21

OT -- what th' HECK is that in your avatar? A marmoset?

336 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:46:18am
337 arcatan  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:46:39am

The major irony here is that the Leftist will interpret this media brown-out as a right wing conspiracy to prevent The People from hearing the hateful message of Rev. Wright.

338 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:46:46am

re: #331 beens21

we figured it out
We're sorry

339 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:46:54am
340 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:47:08am

re: #320 {m} Hey sugar, hope you're doing well today!
BTW, I've been trying - with some success - to get the Rev. Wright to be called the "Racist Rev". The success of my effort has been unintentionally diluted by folks thinking I was talking about Sharpton, but we got that straightened out! LOL!

341 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:47:38am

re: #333 savage_nation
yellow snow?

BLINK

342 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:47:43am
343 beens21  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:49:55am

[Link: www.dailykos.com...] it is from this crap.

344 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:50:05am

re: #337 arcatan Frankly, I'd LOVE to have the American People hear the Racist Rev - hear all of his "sermons"!

345 maddogg  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:50:27am

re: #341 BabbaZee

yellow snow?

BLINK

Babba, thats one of my favorite "Zappas". The guy was a genius.

346 loppyd  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:50:27am

re: #294 savage_nation

OK, good.

347 arcatan  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:51:47am

The Daily Kos has been trying to figure out how to say "God Damn America" for quite some time, they clearly owe a debt of gratitude to the Wrong Rev. Wright.

348 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:53:01am
349 beens21  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:53:23am

re: #335 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I don't know, it just came home with the dogs one afternoon.

350 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:54:20am

re: #303 gop_patriot

And if he was an apostate, would Farrakkan (sp) be his pal? I doubt it, have you ever seen Louis' underlings on TV? They're borderline psychotic. No way would they be seen fraternizing with an apostate; how much more so, Louis. Scary, scary, scary that we might possibly have a POTUS with this hateful socialist racist as a spiritual adviser to the WH.

wright's harsh angry rhetoric doesn't sound christian. he may say he's a christian but he sounds like a militant hate spewing black moslem farrakhan type. why did wright say farrakhan truly epitomizes greatness. why did he go w/ farrakhan to meet libyan dictator khadafy? barrack hussein obama has known 'rev' wright for 20 yrs. how could he listen to wright's hateful bitter rants for so long?

351 sparrowlake  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:54:33am

re: #342 savage_nation

You know the old saying:
Little kids, little problems - big kids, big problems.
Good luck.

352 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:54:40am

I'm confused. Help me out.
During the primary's of '04 the front runner Dr. Howard Dean made some innocuous scream at some rally and the media tore him a new one, costing him the nomination. Today the front runner Barack Obama is tied to, by the closest of associations, an outright racist anti-American rabblerouser, and 85% of the the media ignores it?

353 arcatan  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:54:51am

re: #344 realwest

Frankly, I'd LOVE to have the American People hear the Racist Rev - hear all of his "sermons"!

I totally agree, but as shown here with the Kos, many think his drivel is an important political message ...being suppressed by the corporate (read: conservative) media.

And as to the "crazy uncle" claim: NO ONE would give their crazy uncle a platform of authority from which to indoctrinate their children with his own world view.

The fact is that the Obama's are using Wright to teach their children things they don't want to say directly.

354 realwest  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:55:15am

Well y'all it's been grand as usual - and especially illuminating, but I gotta eat lunch and continue e-mailing everyone I know about Obama and the Racist Rev.
Hope you all have a GREAT DAY and that I get to see you down the road!

355 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:56:13am

re: #244 buzzsawmonkey

St. Gramsci Cathedral of the Ivory Tower, LWC (Leftist Whoredom Church)?

Man you just have to TRY & keep a brother down with your ivory jive....
try black tower, cracker jack....
Black power to the black tower!
LOL

356 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:56:25am
357 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:56:49am

re: #352 unrealizedviewpoint

I'm confused. Help me out.
During the primary's of '04 the front runner Dr. Howard Dean made some innocuous scream at some rally and the media tore him a new one, costing him the nomination. Today the front runner Barack Obama is tied to, by the closest of associations, an outright racist anti-American rabblerouser, and 85% of the the media ignores it?

You got it! lololol

358 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:57:47am

re: #350 nyc redneck

see the links in 86

359 loppyd  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:58:29am

re: #356 savage_nation

Be safe, Savage.

360 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:58:34am

re: #345 maddogg

that he was

361 savage_nation[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 10:59:33am
362 rappmandu  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:00:09am

re: #356 savage_nation

Checked ODOT webcams. Looks good if you can get a few miles out of La Pine. Be careful.

363 Russkilitlover  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:01:23am

Put a tiny mustache on that man, throw in a few achs! and unds!, stick his arm up in the air and we got ourselves our own Hitler. Unfortunately, the name Hitler has been overused to the point where this reference is missed and therefore is going unnoticed.

364 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:01:47am

re: #349 beens21

I don't know, it just came home with the dogs one afternoon.

ROFLMAO

365 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:03:26am

re: #357 BabbaZee

You got it! lololol

Sometimes I wish there was a Fairness Doctrine. A real one.

366 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:03:54am

What the AP IS running on Obama today

Finally, there are rumors and outright lies about the candidate that have gained an audience through repetition in e-mails and on Web sites.

Obama is working hard to win over this vocal, powerful and reliably Democratic voting bloc.

Jews have accounted for about 4 percent of Democratic primary voters so far this year, and Clinton has held a 52-46 percent edge over Obama among them, according to exit polls.

SNIP

Obama, who has rejected support from Farrakhan, assured voters his Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago does not endorse such messages.

"I have never heard an anti-Semitic (remark) made inside of our church. I have never heard anything that would suggest anti-Semitism on the part of the pastor," Obama said in a transcript of his remarks released later. "He (Wright) is like an old uncle who sometimes will say things that I don't agree with. And I suspect there are some of the people in this room who have heard relatives say some things that they don't agree with - including, on occasion, directed at African-Americans."

367 faraway  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:04:07am

Osama Bin Laden sounds more rational and has less hate for America than Rev. Wright.

And Osama does not have 8000 cult members in the US.

Plus Osama does not have a cult member running for President of the US.

368 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:05:32am

re: #365 unrealizedviewpoint

Sadly, "fair" is a fallacy
I don't even look for it anymore.

369 unrealizedviewpoint  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:06:27am

re: #367 faraway

Osama Bin Laden sounds more rational and has less hate for America than Rev. Wright.

And Osama does not have 8000 cult members in the US.

Plus Osama does not have a cult member running for President of the US.

I don't know that that's true.

/kidding, well kind of..

370 InternationalObserver  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:06:57am

The Wall Street Journal article stated,

"Mr. Obama went on to explain Mr. Wright's anti-Zionist statements as being rooted in his anger over the Jewish state's support for South Africa under its previous policy of apartheid."

Why do so many leftists (in USA, Europe, and third-world) have so many excuses for anti-Semitism?

And why did Obama not mention:

1. Israel co-operated with ZA in economic and arms matters, but so did some African nations.
2. Anti-apartheid leadership came from Gordimer, Suzman, and ANC co-founder Slovo, all Jewish.
3. Jews helped civil-rights in the USA considerably. Doesn't that count, or merit mention, at all?

Obama, like Dinkins, seems to have the weakness of being unable to denounce, or even dissociate himself, from backers whose extreme opinions they do not share.

The result of such moral weakness is that Dinkins was paralysed at the time of the Crown Heights riots. Would Obama also be paralysed by politics at such a time of crisis?

371 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:07:15am

"How do you tell a Communist?
Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin.
And how do you tell an anti-Communist?
It's someone who understands Marx and
Lenin."
~ Ronald Reagan

372 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:07:18am

re: #246 sparrowlake

They oughta wait until the baby knows how to use a gun.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

373 exredtory  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:08:09am

Well at least John Stewart took a shot at the guy yesterday.

374 LEGION  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:11:07am

re: #293 Ojoe

Mine too- was supposed to be in the Japanese invasion force- ended up in the Occupation force- if he died, I of course, would never have been born! (You too.) And so on with my kids- generations of Americans (and Japanese) were saved by those bombs! The looney left just dosen't get it!

375 Terp Mole  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:11:43am

Breaking: Politico is reporting Obama defending Wright

Q: I don't know if you've seen it, but it's all over the wire today (from an ABC News story), a statement that your pastor (the Rev. Jeremiah Wright of Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago's South Side) made in a sermon in 2003 that instead of singing "God Bless America," black people should sing a song essentially saying "God Damn America."

A: I haven't seen the line. This is a pastor who is on the brink of retirement who in the past has made some controversial statements. I profoundly disagree with some of these statements.

Q: What about this particular statement?

A: Obviously, I disagree with that. Here is what happens when you just cherry-pick statements from a guy who had a 40-year career as a pastor. There are times when people say things that are just wrong. But I think it's important to judge me on what I've said in the past and what I believe.

Audacity!

376 wahabicorridor  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:13:02am

re: #370 InternationalObserver

nice post. dinged up.

377 gardenia  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:13:17am

I am offended as a White person being accused of starting the AIDS virus in order to commit genocide against Black people.

I am offended by everything I heard from the foaming mouth of that maniac.

Obama gets scarier by the day.

378 alegrias  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:14:22am

re: #371 BabbaZee

"How do you tell a Communist?
Well, it's someone who reads Marx and Lenin.
And how do you tell an anti-Communist?
It's someone who understands Marx and
Lenin."
~ Ronald Reagan

* * *
Amen, Sista! Understanding the dreck is everything.

How's that Zimbabwean collectivization working out, at $35,000,000 Zimbabwean dollars to one $US, yet it's the US economy that's supposedly tanking and we're all eating dirt to stay alive, according to eagle-eyed global reporting?

PS, I loved your preachifying, testifying!

379 pegcity  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:14:32am

re: #377 gardenia

I am offended as a White person being accused of starting the AIDS virus in order to commit genocide against Black people.

I am offended by everything I heard from the foaming mouth of that maniac.

Obama gets scarier by the day.

So the question is who came up with this aids insanity first Wright or Farakahan?

380 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:15:30am

re: #266 sparrowlake

Oh it's mainstream in a lot of places
Sadly the majority of pamphlet taking church goers have not a clue what they are really into

Rick Warren was in Syria last year and he is throwing people out of his pay per view whore of churchianity church if they diss Obamanable

381 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:16:08am

re: #303 gop_patriot

And if he was an apostate, would Farrakkan (sp) be his pal? I doubt it, have you ever seen Louis' underlings on TV? They're borderline psychotic. No way would they be seen fraternizing with an apostate; how much more so, Louis. Scary, scary, scary that we might possibly have a POTUS with this hateful socialist racist as a spiritual adviser to the WH.

Useful jidiots.

382 LEGION  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:16:30am

re: #379 pegcity

I vote Farakahan! Wright ain't smart enough.

383 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:17:05am

re: #378 alegrias

{alegrias}

If I forget thee Jerusalem....

/for audio only. Ignore the stoner in the space helmet. lol

384 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:17:41am

re: #379 pegcity

That's standard black nationalist commie propaganda

385 loppyd  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:17:46am

re: #380 BabbaZee

Rick Warren - Purpose Driven Life guy?

386 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:19:52am

re: #385 loppyd

You got it
"Pastor" to MILLIONS
But Hagee is the "dick"

387 faraway  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:20:18am

Let's review Obama's Closest Advisors and His Background:

Michele O: Never been proud of her country
Rev. Wright: God Dxxx America
Mom: Atheist, Communist
Dad: foreign Arab Sunni Muslim
Step dad: foreign Muslim

Education: 2 years in a Muslim school
Church: Racist, Black Separatist
Patriotism: Refuses to wear flag pin, randomly takes hand to heart during Anthem

Drug Use: Just Cocaine

Someone please help me understand why anyone wants this guy as our President?

388 faraway  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:23:19am

Sorry, I left off:

Music Preference: "the Muslim call to prayer is one of the prettiest sounds on Earth."

389 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:25:34am

The NY Post is running the story


9/11 SLUR BY OBAMA REV.
US-BASHING SERMON

390 pegcity  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:25:56am

re: #387 faraway

Let's review Obama's Closest Advisors and His Background:

Michele O: Never been proud of her country
Rev. Wright: God Dxxx America
Mom: Atheist, Communist
Dad: foreign Arab Sunni Muslim
Step dad: foreign Muslim

Education: 2 years in a Muslim school
Church: Racist, Black Separatist
Patriotism: Refuses to wear flag pin, randomly takes hand to heart during Anthem

Drug Use: Just Cocaine

Someone please help me understand why anyone wants this guy as our President?

cause hes black, and white people are guilty for all of humanity's crimes

391 alegrias  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:28:17am

re: #387 faraway
* * *

Whereas, John McCain's navy admiral father & grandfather died in their country's service--his grandfather literally died days after standing at attention while Japan's Hirohito signed Japan's surrender papers.

McCain took beatings for 5.5 years as a US POW in North Communist Vietnam with men who were tortured and died for saying the pledge of allegiance and sewing US tiny flags into their POW costumes, so they could remember their country's promises.

392 Racer X  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:29:34am

I have bookmarked this entire thread. Wow!

Awesome resource for Obama material.

393 Francisco D'anconia  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:32:08am

re: #275 Terp Mole

Apologies to CCR:

um that was three dog night not ccr.

394 wahabicorridor  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:35:07am

re: #387 faraway

just got back to the thread, so in case no one has corrected this yet

Dad: foreign Arab Sunni Muslim

His father was from Kenya

395 faraway  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:39:10am

re: #394 wahabicorridor
OK, Dad: foreign Arab Sunni Muslim from Kenya

396 loppyd  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:39:39am

re: #386 BabbaZee

You got it
"Pastor" to MILLIONS
But Hagee is the "dick"

Is he also involved in that 'The Secret' BS?

397 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:41:13am

This is the first time that a U.S. President has made such an appointment to the OIC, an important organization whose member states include some of our closest friends and partners. And it signals the deep respect for the values and the ideals of Islam that are held by the President and by myself, the U.S. Government and of course, the American people.

~ 3/10/08 Condi Rice


MM HMMM.

MPH & ETA
is the only difference between R & D,
ultimately

398 sparrowlake  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:44:21am

re: #372 debutaunt

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

You thought I was just kidding?

399 wahabicorridor  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:44:34am

re: #395 faraway

OK, Dad: foreign Arab Sunni Muslim from Kenya


what's with the 'Arab' bit - he wasn't

400 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:44:37am

re: #396 loppyd

Is he also involved in that 'The Secret' BS?

Yes......Oprah Dr, Phil and TD Jakes, them too blahblahblah infinity

There is so much deception in this world right now
my head spins


In times of universal deceit
telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act
~ George Orwell

Undeceive Yourselves!
~ The Kotzker Rebbe

401 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:50:03am
402 arcatan  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:51:47am

re: #387 faraway


Someone please help me understand why anyone wants this guy as our President?

You've never heard of the 5th column? It's the perspective of preference taught at US universities for decades.

403 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:51:48am

re: #401 buzzsawmonkey

Old Race Ho
--with apologies to Stephen Foster


Outstanding!

The Ghost of Stephen Foster Salutes You!

404 sparrowlake  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:53:09am

re: #380 BabbaZee

Thanks for the interesting links, Babba.
But where are all the mainstream black clergy on this issue?
Do they fear it will hurt Obama if they come out and disavow Wright?

405 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:55:21am

re: #404 sparrowlake

I can't answer either question, I really don't know.

406 Jhn1  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:55:31am

re: #324 pre-Boomer Marine brat

And leaving churches when the pulpit preaches things you do not accept are correct is required if you do believe in whatever doctrine/faith you claim to believe in.
Heck, Howard Dean left his church over a dispute about a bicycle path.
If Barack actually disagreed with Wright, it was his obligation to either resolve that disagreement, publically denounce that position, at that time, or leave the church for one whose beliefs he did accept.

407 faraway  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:56:11am

re: #399 wahabicorridor
Baracka is an Arabic word. Hussein is an Arabic-Muslim, not African, name.

408 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 11:59:12am
409 Widow'smight  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 12:00:21pm

re: #406 Jhn1

I wonder if this is where Obalma got his views on infanticide. I'm sure the REV must have read in the scriptures about how God hates babies. He seems to have found a bunch of other stuff I've never found.

410 MARedneck  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 12:02:45pm
411 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 12:15:24pm

re: #408 buzzsawmonkey

It is one of my all time favorite things on YouTube

412 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 12:16:59pm
413 yenta-fada  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 12:22:53pm

Yikes. I'm so tired of this 'is Obama a Muslim' crap. If I said my name was Moishe Shloime Goldberg and I am not a Jew, who would believe me!

414 Cry of defiance and not of fear  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 12:33:38pm

Interestingly enough, the Daily Telegraph (London) has an article up about Obama in their Comment Opinion page by Toby Harnden in which he, as a constant Obama supporter, slams Mrs Clinton for daring to 'play the race card.' Big mistake, that. It brought out a raft of comments about the racist Pastor and with links as well to LGF's video of his disgusting "sermon". So, I believe there is, on the other side of "the pond", an awakening to reality which will make it all the harder for this issue to be ignored by anyone in the media.

On a possibly related note, I saw mention some time ago that Keith Ellison had visited Gaddafi, also in the company of Farrakhan (as did Pastor Wright who I've now seen described as a "former black Muslim"). Putting aside for the moment the question of "former Muslim", I am wondering if there isn't a link here, via Farrakhan, with what may be the real "puppetmasters" in this campaign?

415 BabbaZee  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 12:36:40pm

re: #414 Cry of defiance and not of fear

see the links in 86

416 ploome hineni[deleted]  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 1:06:21pm
417 vagabond trader  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 1:09:37pm

re: #413 yenta-fada

LOL!

418 debutaunt  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 1:12:59pm

re: #413 yenta-fada

Yikes. I'm so tired of this 'is Obama a Muslim' crap. If I said my name was Moishe Shloime Goldberg and I am not a Jew, who would believe me!

The key point is that Muslims decide who is and who is not a Muslim.

419 vagabond trader  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 1:18:06pm

breaking, Hannity says that Obama has agreed to sit down with a Fox reporter and answer questions about Wright.Hmm, wonder who'll be serving up the softballs?

420 InternationalObserver  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 1:29:43pm

Two apt figures of speech come to mind in the Obama-Hillary contest:

* Conservatives should rejoice at this "falling out among thieves".

* The Democrats have for so long been about nothing but identity politics, that is was inevitable the various parts of its racial and gender politics would eventually conflict.

So, in the charges and counter-charges of racism and sexism, it is a pleasure to see the professional identity warriors of both types hoist upon their own petard.

421 LeePro  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 1:47:27pm

The "Rev." Wright:

"We've got more black men in prison than there are in college," he began.

And why is that, "Rev." Wright?

Were they caught stealing money to cover their tuition toward their education?

422 pbird  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 7:26:09pm

re: #183 savage_nation

I need some advice.

Would anyone have a pit bull around a baby? The reason I ask is because the idiot daddy of my unborn granddaughter has this pit bull puppy that he keeps sneaking into the apartment that wont allow pets. The two lovebirds already got caught by the landlady and if the dog is found around there again, they get evicted. My ex has tried several times to make shit-for-brains get rid of the dog but he won't. If it were up to me, I'd shoot the dog and dump the carcass in a cornfield.

How can my daughter be that damn stupid? She is gonna be living in daddyo's car since his folks wont let him live at their house since he is over 21. And they wont lift a finger to help her either but they are soooooooooooo happy that their son is going to be a father!

My kid went over there once cause she was hungry (since she is eating for 2 now) and they wouldn't give her even a sandwich)

Thoughts?

If the damn dog were well trained it probably wouldn't be such a fear, but he doesn't sound like a dog trainer. If you can't kill it, sounds like you'll need to involve the awful child protection people. Boy is that a two edged solution....

423 InternationalObserver  Fri, Mar 14, 2008 8:18:45pm

This is a bit late, but has anyone publicly stated

Reverend Wright is wrong.


or

Two Wrights don't make a right.


or

One Wright makes two wrongs.


etc?

424 Das  Sat, Mar 15, 2008 11:53:36am

The really sad thing about the Wright sermons? That whites might take his ravings as currency among blacks.

Sorry. Nope. Black folks may have their share of problems but lack of patriotism is not one of them. I am white guy that married into a very large and complicated black family about 25 years ago and in all those years I have never heard anything approaching "God damn America." Not even from the young cousins who - like their white counterparts - go off to college and pass through a radical phase. Blacks are well-represented in our military - and in our family come to think of it...

Wright is a nut even to blacks - though none of his ravings are unfamiliar to the black community - but the "God damn" bit was shocking to everyone in our ken and I think he'll sink Obama.

425 Das  Sat, Mar 15, 2008 12:22:21pm

....I meant to say that the military is well-represented in our family...in that odd sentence above....cheers - D.


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