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Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:01:46 am PDT

The mainstream media are completely, utterly in the tank for Barack Obama. After ignoring the Rev. Wright scandal for as long as possible, the Associated Press is now filing blatant whitewash pieces like this one, in which they don’t even tell the reader what Barack Obama’s pastor actually said: Obama decries racial rhetoric.

Wright’s sermons were just “inflammatory,” in some oddly unspecific way.

PLAINFIELD, Ind. - Sen. Barack Obama on Saturday decried “the forces of division” over race that he said are intruding into the Democratic presidential nomination contest.

“We have to come together,” he told a town-hall meeting at a high school.

He cited videos of inflammatory sermons given by his pastor that are now being used as political ammunition against him — remarks that Obama has denounced.

“If all I knew were those statements I saw on television, I would be shocked,” Obama said.

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1 DesertSage  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:03:00am

I expect nothing less.

2 jcm  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:03:14am

Ill be G-damn! What a surprise.

3 cartoonboy  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:03:31am

Obamabull

4 windhorse  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:03:33am

Hail Mary...

5 DesertSage  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:04:02am

It's an Obamanation!

6 Karridine  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:04:35am
7 Nevergiveup  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:05:52am

Good. Sugar coat it till after the conventions. Let the dems nominate him. Just remember every dog has it's day!

8 BignJames  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:06:06am

“If all I knew were those statements I saw on television, I would be shocked,” Obama said.


I'm not.

9 mattm  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:06:52am

The United Church of Christ statement is just like the AP. They don't even mention BHO is a member, but made sure to when he spoke in Hartford.

[Link: www.ucc.org...]

10 Nevergiveup  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:07:25am

re: #8 BignJames

“If all I knew were those statements I saw on television, I would be shocked,” Obama said.


I'm not.

The more Obama says the deeper he is digging his own political grave.

11 jcm  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:07:33am

Do the chant.

O-ba-ma, O-ba-ma.

You to then can, justify anything.

O-ba-ma, O-ba-ma...

12 Spiny Norman  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:07:37am

re: #8 BignJames

“If all I knew were those statements I saw on television, I would be shocked,” Obama said.

I'm not.

When things go off-script, Obama doesn't lie very well.

13 Nevergiveup  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:08:29am

re: #12 Spiny Norman

“If all I knew were those statements I saw on television, I would be shocked,” Obama said.

I'm not.

When things go off-script, Obama doesn't lie very well.

Yeah it almost makes you miss Bubba. He was so good at it, I almost believed him!

14 JimmyTheClaw  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:09:27am

“If all I knew were those statements I saw on television, I would be shocked,” Obama said.


its about all i need to know that your "mentor/spiritual guide" is a bigoted, lying, racist of the worst kind.

15 windhorse  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:09:31am

if the guy was that clueless about his pastor, he is either a liar or a moron. Which one do you want as your next president?

/same here

16 ParanoidPyro  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:10:06am
“If all I knew were those statements I saw on television, I would be shocked,” Obama said.

Well luckily for Obama, he knows the race-baiting, childish anger to put these statements in the proper context. See folks? It's all ok.

Now move along you lookie-loos, nothing to see here!

17 newsjunkie_ky  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:10:53am

Shocked! Shocked that the AP would cover up for a democrat candidate. What is the msm coming to these days?
/

18 Macker  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:11:37am

re: #6 Karridine

What tune is that set to?

19 Roger  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:12:04am

He knows more!

20 RaiderDan  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:12:12am

And I though the MSM's shilling for Obama over the Israel issue was bad.

21 BignJames  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:12:33am

re: #12 Spiny Norman


It's our fault that we noticed.

22 jcm  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:13:03am

re: #14 JimmyTheClaw

...its about all i need to know that your "mentor/spiritual guide" is a bigoted, lying, racist of the worst kind.

And his political mentor is a Gramsician Whore.

Obama's mentors consists of lying bigoted, racist, communists.

But then I'm keeping the Black Man (50% white, 45% arab, 5% black) down.

23 realwest  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:13:06am

re: #8 BignJames Me neither! BTW, just wanted to thank you for clearing up the "Bonnie" mistake I made on the DT! I just got the wrong Bonnie I reckon!
Seriously, thanks again for that.

24 sammysdad  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:13:07am

At least some of us understand why Obama doesn't wear a flag emblem on his suit coat why he doesn't pledge allegiance to the flag.

25 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:13:34am

“If all I knew were those statements I saw on television, I would be shocked,” Obama said.

So, those this imply he KNOW MORE and is not shocked?

Walter in Golden, Co. (waiting for 10 inches of snow in the next 24 hours)

26 doriangrey  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:13:42am

re: #14 JimmyTheClaw

“If all I knew were those statements I saw on television, I would be shocked,” Obama said.


its about all i need to know that your "mentor/spiritual guide" is a bigoted, lying, racist of the worst kind.

But..but but..havent you heard? Blacks cannot be racists, only whites can...

27 zmdavid  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:14:16am

Look for the AP to justify not printing the comments on the grounds of decency. That is a great way to justify a cover up nasty stuff.

28 Walter L. Newton  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:14:39am

PIMF (no, I'm not drunk)

“If all I knew were those statements I saw on television, I would be shocked,” Obama said.

So, does this imply he KNOWS MORE and is not shocked?

Walter in Golden, Co. (waiting for 10 inches of snow in the next 24 hours)

29 BignJames  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:14:53am

re: #23 realwest

I remembered reading about it when it happened...in Rolling Stone.

30 jcm  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:15:12am

re: #25 Walter L. Newton

“If all I knew were those statements I saw on television, I would be shocked,” Obama said.

So, those this imply he KNOW MORE and is not shocked?

Walter in Golden, Co. (waiting for 10 inches of snow in the next 24 hours)

Good news for the ski operators! (Don't know if it's good news for Walter).

31 obscured by clouds  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:15:56am
“If all I knew were those statements I saw on television, I would be shocked,” Obama said.

It's all I've seen and I, for one, am not shocked. Disgusted, but definitely not shocked.

So let me get this straight -this quote is cleverly worded- Obama is saying that he knew about the statements but they don't represent the entirety of the good pastor's message? So that makes it okay that he listened to this hate laced, race baiting, bilge every Sunday for twenty years with nary a complaint?! We just don't know enough about Pastor Wright and his "church?" Talk about liberal logic!

Obama will bring us all "together" alright - at the edge of a cliff.

/my head hurts

32 Iron Fist[deleted]  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:16:19am
33 ishabibble  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:16:35am

re: #1 DesertSage

Barry is lying and I think it will be his undoing. His interview with FNC had the "deer in the headlights" look to it, and O'Reilly will be back on this story Monday. The coverage on other networks is very selective, showing that demented man saying the N word, but not one has touched the 9/11 "God damn America" sermon. Barry sat in a pew in that disgusting place for 20 yrs. Don't tell me he didn't know.

34 blutonazi98  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:17:05am

you are all racist for even noticing this.

/if you weren't racist you wouldn't have even noticed

35 jcm  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:17:30am

re: #31 obscured by clouds

It's all I've seen and I, for one, am not shocked. Disgusted, but definitely not shocked.

So let me get this straight -this quote is cleverly worded- Obama is saying that he knew about the statements but they don't represent the entirety of the good pastor's message? So that makes it okay that he listened to this hate laced, race baiting, bilge every Sunday for twenty years with nary a complaint?! We just don't know enough about Pastor Wright and his "church?" Talk about liberal logic!

Obama will bring us all "together" alright - at the edge of a cliff.

/my head hurts

In BHO's he quotes Wright trashing "the white man" and specifically mentions it as one of the attractions of Rev. Wright.

36 realwest  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:17:34am

Charles - "they don’t even tell the reader what Barack Obama’s pastor actually said" and, of course, they completely ignored the long and very CLOSE relationship Barrack Hussein Obama has had with the Racist Rev and the fact that, according to Obama's 2006 tax return, he gave the Racist Rev $22,500.00 either.
Don't know why I'm continually surprised by the venal nature of the media.

37 Ojoe  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:17:47am

Thank God for the internet and talk radio.

And I suppose word of mouth.

38 goddessoftheclassroom  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:18:09am

As I said yesterday, Obama is a greater risk to our country than Hillary. I sincerely hope she gets the nomination.

39 Earth56  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:18:35am

re: #11 jcm

Do the chant.

O-ba-ma, O-ba-ma.

You to then can, justify anything.

O-ba-ma, O-ba-ma...

How about something like

Mama I love O-ba-Ma

40 doriangrey  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:18:55am

re: #34 blutonazi98

you are all racist for even noticing this.

/if you weren't racist you wouldn't have even noticed

Ummm, yea, right, that must be it... /s

41 Pass The Moonbaticide  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:19:12am

Shouldn't that be EX pastor ? I thought he had retired .
However, He's still noted as the senior pastor at the Church (I'll use that term in it's loosest sense) website , so maybe reports of his retirement are for MSM use only .

42 Ojoe  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:19:12am

re: #24 sammysdad

Yeah no flag pin.

How Very Sad™

43 debutaunt  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:19:36am

re: #33 ishabibble

Barry is lying and I think it will be his undoing. His interview with FNC had the "deer in the headlights" look to it, and O'Reilly will be back on this story Monday. The coverage on other networks is very selective, showing that demented man saying the N word, but not one has touched the 9/11 "God damn America" sermon. Barry sat in a pew in that disgusting place for 20 yrs. Don't tell me he didn't know.

But I want a president who stammers and barely hides his panic when it gets a little tough.

44 Nevergiveup  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:19:46am

re: #32 Iron Fist

,

I don't know which is more unelectable, the Obamassiah or the Hildabeast. It looks like the election is McCain's to lose.

Of course, he seems bound and determined to piss of the base and lose. It is sad that these are the best that our two-party system can bring before us.

I still think, other than the real hard core loony liberal left, semi-rational democrats will not vote for Obama in November. Don't be fooled by the voters in the Democratic primaries. They do not represent the normal electorate.

45 Ojoe  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:20:14am

re: #15 windhorse

I suspect liar.

46 Thanos  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:20:23am

Over at DU they are having a meltdown ala the DKOS thing over a post comparing Wright to MLK... this is getting interesting.

47 jcm  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:20:40am

re: #38 goddessoftheclassroom

As I said yesterday, Obama is a greater risk to our country than Hillary. I sincerely hope she gets the nomination.

If current trends continue, they'll be mopping the metaphorical blood off the convention floor. The party will be split essentially 3 ways. Barack supporters, and Hillary supporters, both will be so pissed they won't vote for the other. The 3rd group will be pissed in general at the democrats and vote Nader.

48 realwest  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:21:01am

re: #29 BignJames Ah see, that's where I probably screwed up - didn't read it in Rolling Stone, heard it from a roadie for the tour (or maybe for Stills, don't remember which).
But I again thank you for that. I'm sorta surprised that Stills' didn't do it - as I said on the DT, Stills did break his right hand punching out some idiot "fan" who made a racist remark about Stills' bass player! LOL! (well, not lol for Stills - really hard to play guitar with your hand in a cast!).

49 Ojoe  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:21:19am

re: #44 Nevergiveup

He should pick Romney as his VP and then try to look frail.

50 zmdavid  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:21:47am

re: #47 jcm

If current trends continue, they'll be mopping the metaphorical blood off the convention floor. The party will be split essentially 3 ways. Barack supporters, and Hillary supporters, both will be so pissed they won't vote for the other. The 3rd group will be pissed in general at the democrats and vote Nader.

I'm not so sure the blood will be metaphorical.

51 obscured by clouds  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:22:36am

re: #41 Pass The Moonbaticide

Shouldn't that be EX pastor spiritual advisor? There. fixed that for you.

52 jaunte  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:23:05am

Lies in Bold:
"I noticed over the last several weeks that the forces of division have started to raise their ugly heads again. And I'm not here to cast blame or point fingers because everybody, you know, senses that there's been this shift,"

Playing the Card: (what does he mean 'We?')
"It reminds me: We've got a tragic history when it comes to race in this country. We've got a lot of pent-up anger and bitterness and misunderstanding. ... This country wants to move beyond these kinds of things."

(...and if you don't vote for me, the country wil stay bitter and angry.)

53 m  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:23:21am

They keep quoting Obama on Fox saying that the words were incendiary and he rejects them.

Not that they aren't true or anything!
/obamist

54 Roger  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:23:26am

re: #34 blutonazi98

Some of the same stuff is in the video I pointed to in

#48

re: #38 brakes

I wonder where Obama went to church this fine morning.

He gave the sermon [could not verify the date]

The USA is like Jericho and he is going to march around and take it down.

Just more 'refined' for the populous' palate.

55 Daisy  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:24:19am

"We have to come together"

Tell that to your Ayatollah Wright .. and then get him off your campaign's 'spiritual advisory board' and then step down yourself.

Go try and be president in some country you don't hate.

56 realwest  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:24:30am

re: #52 jaunte Hey my friend! If they vote for him, I know some of us will be bitter and angry about that, but of course they don't really care about "us" just our tax dollars!

57 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:24:35am

Those videos sure are inflammatory. I'm glad though, that the writer of the article doesn't consider them offensive or skewed.

58 Ojoe  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:25:07am

Go try and be president in some country you don't hate.


BINGO !

59 mean Gene  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:25:08am

Bambi's talking like a lawyer all of a sudden.
If I had repeatedly heard such statements from my pastor...
Oh?
Is that what he'd have had to do before you might have become uncomfortable enough to leave that church?
So, if he peppered his "Jesus" and "family" talk with this all these years that was OK?
The truth is Obama's pastor was his conduit for millions in federal and state monies to community projects that Obama could put his name on.
They used one another.
And the media loves it.
I hope he is the candidate just so McCain can shred him.

60 karmic_inquisitor  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:25:17am

And burning crosses on lawns are "inflammatory" too, I suppose.

61 doriangrey  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:25:19am

re: #44 Nevergiveup

I still think, other than the real hard core loony liberal left, semi-rational democrats will not vote for Obama in November. Don't be fooled by the voters in the Democratic primaries. They do not represent the normal electorate.

The democratic electorate is anything but normal or rational. Remember they elected Bill "read my lips I did not have sexual relations...define the meaning of Is" Clinton twice. They refused to sanction him for abusing his authority as POTUS to avoid prosecution for rape and subordination of perjury and witness tampering.

62 BignJames  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:25:21am

re: #48 realwest

I'm a big Stills fan too...I think he got disgusted w/Costello and left the bar...I can remember something I read 30 yrs. ago but I can't remember where I put my glasses 5 min. ago.

63 Ojoe  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:26:00am

re: #55 Daisy

re: #58 Ojoe

Score one for Daisy

64 lookingup  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:26:03am

Obama said he wasn't there when these hate filled sermons were given. I call 24 hour rule and lets find out. My guess is he was there along with his wife. It easily explains some of her comments.

65 RickZ  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:26:20am

On Anderson Cooper, Obama had this exchange:

COOPER: Did you not know, though, that, I mean, a couple days after 9/11, he said, you know, this was America's chickens coming home to roost, a result of what he called American terrorism around the world?

(CROSSTALK)

COOPER: I mean, you may not have been there, but have you -- you must have heard that he had said these things.

OBAMA: You know, I confess that I did not hear about this until -- until I started running for president.

And then there was a story that was issued in which I strongly objected to these statements and condemned them. But what I also understood that was -- was Reverend Wright was on the verge of retirement and that a new pastor was coming in. The church family was one that was very important to me. It's where my wife and I got married. It's where our children were baptized. And, so, my belief was that this was something out of the ordinary. Obviously, some of these statements indicate that this was happening more frequently.

But I also want to say this, Anderson. This is somebody who was a former U.S. Marine, who is a biblical scholar, who's preached and taught at theological seminaries all across the country, and has had a reputation as a preeminent preacher in the country.

And, so, I have to strongly condemn the statements that were made. They do not reflect my views or Michelle's views, or probably the views of many people in the church.

On the other hand, you know, Reverend Wright is somebody who is like an uncle or a family member who you may strongly object to what they have to say, but, as he's about to retire, I have no intention of leaving the church itself.

COOPER: But, I mean, uncles are blood relatives who you're kind of stuck with at family gatherings, even when they say outrageous things. You can't get rid of them.

You can walk out of a church. You can walk go up to a pastor and say, this is wrong.

(CROSSTALK)

OBAMA: And, as I said, Anderson, if I had heard any of those statements, I probably would have walked up, and I probably would have told Reverend Wright that they were wrong.

But they were not statements that I heard when I was in church.

COOPER: So, no one in the church ever said to you, man, last week, you missed this sermon; Reverend Wright said this; or...

OBAMA: No.

COOPER: I mean, I think I read in your books that you listened to tapes of Reverend Wright when you were at Harvard Law School.

OBAMA: I did.

COOPER: So, you had no idea?

OBAMA: I understand.

I did not. Well, I want to be clear that, when I ran for president, some of these statements started surfacing.

COOPER: Right.

OBAMA: And, at that point, I was very concerned about it. I had conversations with Reverend Wright about it. And I put out statements indicating that these were not my beliefs. But, as I said before, he was on the verge of retirement. He's preached his last sermon. He will be no longer a pastor at the end of March 31. And, so, our belief was that the most appropriate way to handle it was to be very clear about my strong condemnation of the statements, but to continue to be a part of the church.

Obama probably would have said something if he knew of such sentiments, and this after only 20 years of being a member of that so-called church. Just the kind of decisiveness I want in a C-in-C. And to continue to stick around in that church? What is he going to do, reform it? Or continue to pay his tithe to allow such stupidity passing as a religion to continue to proselytize its message?

66 jcm  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:26:34am

I think Obama should take up acting.
I see nothing!

67 psaturn  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:26:34am

I would be shocked to hear that too, if I heard it...but for 20 yrs you never heard that, Obama, it is just stretching it...

And AP, we are following you...you are NOT getting away from this...

68 BenZacharia  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:27:02am

re: #46 Thanos

Over at DU they are having a meltdown ala the DKOS thing over a post comparing Wright to MLK... this is getting interesting.

Really? Comparing the registered Rebuplican Rev. MLK to a Democrat.

69 rwmofo  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:27:16am

Since we can't smear any conservatives, nothing to see here - move along.

70 Ojoe  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:27:44am

re: #65 RickZ

He also will probably defend this country as commander-in-chief.

71 jaunte  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:28:06am

re: #56 realwest

Morning realwest! It's interesting to read the Obama speeches without listening to him say the words; it's easier then to see the threats he makes.

72 Nevergiveup  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:29:03am

re: #61 doriangrey

I have spoken to many Democrats who will not vote for Obama under any circumstances. And That doesn't even count all the independents that will have nothing to do with him. I still think if he is nominated, McCain will win handily.

73 realwest  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:29:19am

Hey Charles - I've had to log in about three times this morning, even though I was on the DT for a few hours!
Have y'all changed your log in system in connection with your sock puppet hunt?! LOL!
And btw, how many socks did you find and burn?

74 doriangrey  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:29:20am

re: #62 BignJames

I'm a big Stills fan too...I think he got disgusted w/Costello and left the bar...I can remember something I read 30 yrs. ago but I can't remember where I put my glasses 5 min. ago.

Sigh...you guys do know what a fruitloop moonbat Stills is right? You know, dKos five cans short of a six pack, three fries short of a happy meal, 9/11 was an inside job moonbat?

75 DeathtotheSwiss  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:29:25am

If this was an M. Night Shyamalan film we'd all think Obama was the Manchurian Candidate only to find out he was a closet Republican who in his heart hated such racist rhetoric and supported the troops in Iraq with all his heart.

Then we'd find out that terrorists are allergic to water.

And we're all in a state park.

76 jcm  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:29:34am

Obama never heard?

B. Hussein you think we are that goddamn fucking stupid? You put it in you own damn book, and said it was what attracted you to Wright.

77 debutaunt  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:29:47am

re: #64 lookingup

Obama said he wasn't there when these hate filled sermons were given. I call 24 hour rule and lets find out. My guess is he was there along with his wife. It easily explains some of her comments.

Ouch, my credulity is beyond strained.

78 Spiny Norman  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:29:54am

re: #64 lookingup

Obama said he wasn't there when these hate filled sermons were given. I call 24 hour rule and lets find out. My guess is he was there along with his wife. It easily explains some of her comments.

In those videos of Rev. Wright's sermons they were selling, are there any shots of the audience? Could be interesting to examine if there were...

79 Earth56  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:30:37am

re: #65 RickZ


Aw, come on,
We all watch TV and forget what we watched every night

Thats why they have reruns

80 BignJames  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:30:48am

re: #74 doriangrey

Yeah, but nt as bad as Crosby or Nash.

81 Pass The Moonbaticide  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:31:14am

re: #65 RickZ

and has had a reputation as a preeminent preacher in the country

So preeminent that nobody outside of his own freakshow
had ever heard of him until now.

82 psaturn  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:31:14am

re: #65 RickZ

Good point.

I am glad CNN is 'somewhat' addressing it...but have you noticed that they are treating him with kid gloves? They are hesitating to ask really tough tough questions? Even FOX NEWS also held back...

But they did NOT hold back on McCain regarding Pastor Hagee...and Pastor Hagee LOVES America. In fact, they pursued McCain on that issue until he disavowed Pastor Hagee...

83 Syrah  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:31:38am

Hatred and Revenge seem to be a motivational theme that Obama's wife and pastor share alike.

If that is what Obama is attracted to and affiliates with, I have to wonder what is his motivation for running for President.

84 VegasRick  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:31:41am

re: #65 RickZ

Obama is a f**king liar. Any person that votes for him is a racist hiding behind the cloak of "change". I recently had a run in with a couple of those types and was shocked at what they said.

85 Ojoe  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:32:29am

re: #83 Syrah

Power to use as he likes, IMHO.

86 storagemanager  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:32:29am

I got read Obamas book,

87 Daisy  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:32:32am

re: #63 Ojoe

re: #58 Ojoe

Score one for Daisy

Yeah, really .. and bring Michelle along and let her become the dictator's wife she's always dreamed of becoming. But please, leave your kids here and give them the chances they well deserve.

88 jcm  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:32:35am

re: #83 Syrah

Hatred and Revenge seem to be a motivational theme that Obama's wife and pastor share alike.

If that is what Obama is attracted to and affiliates with, I have to wonder what is his motivation for running for President.

Can you say reparations?

89 StinkHammer  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:33:10am

I.M.A.O. has it down pat: "And God Said to Moses: I Hate Those Honkey-Ass Crackers" -- A Sermon by Jeremiah Wright

Yes, they will stop at nothing to keep the black man out of power and from his rightful job of cracker-cide. That's why they spread the rumors about Obama. They say he's inexperienced and he'll be a disaster. That's not an argument against him, because America deserves a disaster! So they try to say he's secretly a Muslim. Again, that's not an argument against him, because maybe he should be a Muslim. They're doing God's work: Blowing up the honkeys and the Jews. So the only reason that all those crackers oppose Obama is that they know he's going to succeed at what he promises: Killing the honkeys!

RTWT ("read the whole thing," natch...) It's a scream.

90 jaunte  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:33:17am

Baldfaced Over-the-top Hypocrisy:
Obama said that pointing out racial differences only makes it harder to "deliver on the big issues we face in this country,"

91 Ojoe  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:33:44am

re: #88 jcm

All the brave Union soldier boys sleep in the dirt, that's the reparation.

92 Desert Dog  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:34:35am

Now come on, if McCain has been attending the White Power Uber Alles Church of Aryan Supremacy, the MSM would give him a pass too? Yes? McCain could say he did not have his hearing aid on when the pastor was spewing out his vile hate filled "sermon". I wonder what Obama was doing when the Rev. Wright was vomiting out his version of "BLACK Christianity"? Sen. Obama is claiming he did not know about any of this until just recently...I wonder how the AP, CNN, NYT et al will "whitewash" this once it becomes apparent Obama knew EXACTLY what Rev. Wright was saying all these years and did nothing to distance himself until it became a political liability? I can hardly wait to see the twisted and contorted rationalizations they will use to make this a "non issue".

93 realwest  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:34:38am

re: #71 jaunte Yep, you're right about that. When you read 'em, his statements are, or were to me, shockingly impolitic for a man running for President.
I think Americans will take a lot of talk from their politicans as just that - talk.
But it seems pretty clear to me that Obama really doesn't LIKE America and he (and his ditzo wife) really don't RESPECT America.
And I don't see how any American could vote for such a man.
I just don't.

94 Syrah  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:34:38am

re: #85 Ojoe

Power to use as he likes, IMHO.

The power to destroy, or the power to build?

Revenge and hatred are destructive impulses.

95 Karridine  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:34:57am

Here's an ON-THREAD snark-song: Jeremiah!
/ragging on the 'reverend'

96 Canadian Infidel  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:34:58am

The Detroit newspapers had NO front page articles on the pastor in their combined weekend editions. A brief apologetic article similar to what Charles posted appeared about page 13. Not a story at all.

But then again, mayor Coleman Young pretty much chased out most of the white devils, including my mother's family, to the suburbs throughout the 1980's. Detroit's been a paradise since.

97 jcm  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:35:05am

re: #91 Ojoe

All the brave Union soldier boys sleep in the dirt, that's the reparation.

I've got both in my ancestry, can I pay myself?

98 Ojoe  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:35:08am

re: #94 Syrah

Keep him far away from power.

99 Ben-Ami  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:35:14am

re: #52 jaunte

Lies in Bold:
"I noticed over the last several weeks that the forces of division have started to raise their ugly heads again. And I'm not here to cast blame or point fingers because everybody, you know, senses that there's been this shift,"

You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

100 debutaunt  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:35:18am

re: #90 jaunte

Baldfaced Over-the-top Hypocrisy:
Obama said that pointing out racial differences only makes it harder to "deliver on the big issues we face in this country,"

I embrace my crackerness.

101 Ojoe  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:35:47am

re: #97 jcm

We should all go forward arm in arm as citizens of one country.

102 doriangrey  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:36:00am

re: #80 BignJames

Yeah, but nt as bad as Crosby or Nash.

Ever notice how the more pampered and materially blessed celebrities are the further out in moonbat la la land they tend to end up? The more often I see wealthy spoiled celebrities display themselves to be imbeciles the more awestruck I am that the few like Ted Nugent and Gene Simons are sane and rational. How the hell did that happen?

103 Roger  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:36:48am
“(Obama's speech on faith) may be the most important pronouncement by a Democrat on faith and politics since John F. Kennedy's Houston speech in 1960 declaring his independence from the Vatican...Obama offers the first faith testimony I have heard from any politician that speaks honestly about the uncertainties of belief.”

— E.J. Dionne, Op-Ed., Washington Post, June 30, 2006


Obviously this qualifies him for what exactly?.

104 BignJames  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:37:16am

re: #102 doriangrey

Nuge works hard for the money.

105 RememberSekhmet?  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:37:21am

If Obambi is still the Dims' nominee, the contrast couldn't be more stark:


God D*mn America/crotch-grabbing during the National Anthem

Versus

Years as a guest of the NVA at the Hanoi Hilton/Decades in the Senate from Barry Goldwater's seat.

106 Desert Dog  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:37:40am

re: #91 Ojoe

All the brave Union soldier boys sleep in the dirt, that's the reparation.

I had ancestors that fought and died on the Union side, do I get some reparations too? The side of my family that was here during the "Slave Period" never owned another human...I can hardly wait to get my first payment! I think I will buy "Rev. Wright's Greatest Hits dvd package".

107 jcm  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:37:49am

re: #101 Ojoe

We should all go forward arm in arm as citizens of one country.

Amen to that.

108 doriangrey  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:38:12am

re: #104 BignJames

Nuge works hard for the money.

That he does... And god bless him for it...

109 Syrah  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:38:14am

re: #88 jcm

Can you say reparations?

Not without choking.

110 J.S.  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:38:26am

re: #41 Pass The Moonbaticide

Shouldn't that be EX pastor ? I thought he had retired .
However, He's still noted as the senior pastor at the Church (I'll use that term in it's loosest sense) website , so maybe reports of his retirement are for MSM use only .

From what I've read the Wright hater was to retire In June...However, after airing the "I hate America" "sermon", Wright has now (I believe) "resigned." But, then again, is anything to be trusted by these folks? there's a tendency of saying one thing and doing another. The "resignation" could all be for the benefit of PR. (I believe nothing if it comes from the BO camp).

111 tblot  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:39:12am

re: #78 Spiny Norman

You know the Clinton are doing that right now

112 zmdavid  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:39:49am

I think I understand Wright's point of view:
America is so evil that not hating it is racist.

113 realwest  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:40:50am

re: #74 doriangrey With all due respect, there's no doubt at all that Nash, Crosby and Young are moonbats of the first order.
But I know from firsthand experience how much Stills did to try to help us Vietnam Veterans when the war was over.
And except for "Daylight Again" (which used to be "Find The Cost of Freedom" and was always the last song that CSN sang at any concert), all the songs Stills performed (TreeTop Flyer among others) that remotely said something nice about our Vets were songs in which Crosby and Nash didn't perform - they were, I guess, taking a breather.
And, as is true of so many musicians and singer/songwriters from that era, even if Stills IS a moonbat, he's still a hell of a guitarist and songwriter. Listen to him and Herbie Hancock on Stills last album. The dude can PLAY.

114 Daisy  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:40:56am

re: #65 RickZ

"COOPER: But, I mean, uncles are blood relatives who you're kind of stuck with at family gatherings, even when they say outrageous things. You can't get rid of them.

You can walk out of a church. You can walk go up to a pastor and say, this is wrong.

(CROSSTALK)

OBAMA: And, as I said, Anderson, if I had heard any of those statements, I probably would have walked up, and I probably would have told Reverend Wright that they were wrong.

But they were not statements that I heard when I was in church."

Has precisely the same tonal quality as: "I DID NOT SLEEP W/THAT WOMAN." Don't you think.
(+ thanks very much for your post .. I'd not seen that interview)

115 doriangrey  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:41:27am

re: #106 Desert Dog

I had ancestors that fought and died on the Union side, do I get some reparations too? The side of my family that was here during the "Slave Period" never owned another human...I can hardly wait to get my first payment! I think I will buy "Rev. Wright's Greatest Hits dvd package".

Not only were my family Union military, they were abolitionist's as well, think we're going to get any reparation money? Does the phrase hell no mean anything to you?

116 jcm  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:41:48am

re: #112 zmdavid

I think I understand Wright's point of view:
America is so evil that not hating it is racist.

The mind wobbles.

117 jcm  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:43:01am

re: #115 doriangrey

Not only were my family Union military, they were abolitionist's as well, think we're going to get any reparation money? Does the phrase hell no mean anything to you?

I've got some who's homes where on the underground railroad. I've got some Southern land and slave holders. I've got some slave blood.

Where do I fit.

118 valkyrie  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:46:13am

re: #89 StinkHammer

I.M.A.O. has it down pat: "And God Said to Moses: I Hate Those Honkey-Ass Crackers" -- A Sermon by Jeremiah Wright


RTWT ("read the whole thing," natch...) It's a scream.

This is hilarious:

Jeremiah Wright was until recently the Pastor of Trinity United Church of Christ, and has been the spiritual adviser of the Obamas for twenty years (though he would like to distance himself from some of the anti-American statements of Michelle Obama). Now retired, he hopes to finally read that Bible he's been hearing so much about. He hates the honkeys.

119 StinkHammer  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:46:30am

re: #102 doriangrey

The more often I see wealthy spoiled celebrities display themselves to be imbeciles the more awestruck I am that the few like Ted Nugent and Gene Simmons are sane and rational. How the hell did that happen?

Yes, Gene's primarily a political Libertarian, from what I understand (big free-market capitalism guy) -- but he's also vehemently patriotic and voted for George W. Bush because of his stance towards the Middle East.

120 RickZ  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:46:43am

re: #84 VegasRick

Obama is a f**king liar.

LOL! Of course he is, moreso than the average politician. (Well except for the likes of a John Kerry, who lied about his magic Christmas in Cambodia hat and his purple hearts to make himself a war hero and anti-war dissident.) Obama lied about his life in his work of fiction, "The Audacity of Hope." He has a small portion of African black geneology, but it was they who did not approve of his white mother. But that's the side of his family 'history' with which he identifies. Coupled with the 'message' of his church, speaks volumes.

121 Shaky Louie  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:47:26am

Once I suspend all disbelief, I buy every word that comes from Barry (redacted) Obama!
/

122 debutaunt  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:49:16am

re: #117 jcm

I've got some who's homes where on the underground railroad. I've got some Southern land and slave holders. I've got some slave blood.

Where do I fit.

On the History Channel!

123 arcatan  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:49:27am

Obama is the pied piper to the disenchanted children of our society, including so many in the media. They want to go away to happy fantasy-land and Obama is more than happy to oblige their childish hopes.

The more he is exposed for the fraud he is, the more his followers must close ranks to keep the pretty sound of harmony intact.

These sleepy eyed children have been gathering momentum for many years now, hoping to seize the power to make the icky noise (including you and I having a discussion) stop.

As our standards continue to decline these Peter Pans more and more inundate our institutions and rise to positions of authority (the unquestionable kind).

We can only hope that the center does not fall prey to this cynical demagogue and his vacuous vision.

124 FightingBack  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:50:11am

I heard the statements that others just don't "understand the Black church."
So then this a regular part of it? Or is it an aberration? You can't have it both ways.

And, if Sen O was planning to run for President from Kindergarten on, he should have been more careful what institutions he joined and supported.
We can't take a chance with a President who counts "GD America" as an acceptable sentiment from a mentor. Notice how Sen O's vaunted oratory skills failed him when it came to reassuring us about his fundamental dedication to this country. Of which he wants to be President.

Other incendiary pastors have been linked with candidates as a response to this. These may be despicable bigots; and candidates should repudiate them.

But these folks never cursed America. America is all of us, right?

125 RickZ  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:50:11am

re: #114 Daisy

(+ thanks very much for your post .. I'd not seen that interview)

You're welcome. The Truth about Obama shall keep us Free.

126 mikeinmd  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:51:42am

re: #117 jcm

I've got some who's homes where on the underground railroad. I've got some Southern land and slave holders. I've got some slave blood.

Where do I fit.

Homes on the Underground Railroad = Check
Slave Blood = Check
Southern Land and slave holders = Strikes 1, 2, & 3.

127 doriangrey  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:53:08am

re: #113 realwest

With all due respect, there's no doubt at all that Nash, Crosby and Young are moonbats of the first order.
But I know from firsthand experience how much Stills did to try to help us Vietnam Veterans when the war was over.
And except for "Daylight Again" (which used to be "Find The Cost of Freedom" and was always the last song that CSN sang at any concert), all the songs Stills performed (TreeTop Flyer among others) that remotely said something nice about our Vets were songs in which Crosby and Nash didn't perform - they were, I guess, taking a breather.
And, as is true of so many musicians and singer/songwriters from that era, even if Stills IS a moonbat, he's still a hell of a guitarist and songwriter. Listen to him and Herbie Hancock on Stills last album. The dude can PLAY.

Never said or suggested that he wasn't a great musician...

128 Boondock St. Bender  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 10:56:46am

inflamatory speech...sounds like a job for preparation H

129 tunnelrat  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:00:09am

It seems that when liberals say racist and anti-semitic things, it is considered to be "inflammatory", but excusable. If a republican says anything at all regarding race it is "racist" or "hate speech" or "bigoted" according to the MSM. I never especially liked Trent Lott but consider the way that he was railroaded out of power for simply praising Strom Thurmond. He did not even say that he agreed with his positions on segregation but it was enough to start a shitstorm in the MSM.

The MSM is so deep in the tank for progressives that they will downplay extra-marital affairs, lying, corruption, bribery, and even murder (in the case of Fat Teddy) in order to cover for them. It is sickening how they can do that and still claim to be impartial news organizations. Thank God for the new media!

130 mich-again  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:06:03am

Jeremiah Wright, spiritual adviser. How ridiculous is that. He's just David Duke with a tan.

131 J.S.  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:08:27am

re: #120 RickZ

You know, even the title of that book -- "The Audacity of Hope" -- what kind of lying tripe is that all about? "Hope" for what exactly? More 9/11's? More "Death to Americans?" Is that the "audacious" "hope" the Obamanation prays for? (Is it the so-called Christian equivalent of the Islamist "hope"? yeah, well, that's "audacious" all right..)

132 shiplord kirel  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:11:54am

I talked to the Lubbock area's top liberal activist yesterday. He had not even heard of the Wright uproar and asked me if it had been in the mainstream media at all or was just a product of blogger hysteria. I think he was telling the truth.

133 mikeinmd  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:12:15am

re: #125 RickZ


You're welcome. The Truth about Obama shall keep us Free.

A silly thing like the truth won't stop the believers.

Reinsert Me!

Ignorance is bliss, in any language.

134 BingoBunny  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:12:18am

God Damn America.. HIV is a plot to kill black people by the CIA.. 9/11 is a Bush plot to attack Islam.. and many more..

/all great liberal positions ..widely accepted as part of BDS.. so what they are really talking about is that the unwashed of America have heard it without the proper liberal media bias being inserted first.

135 countrygurl  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:12:26am

This has been all over Fox News Sunday morning. People are just so disappointed. Obama is was the candidate of HOPE and CHANGE. Even if Obama really didn't hear Wright's statements Obama would have known The Mission Statement of his Church. You would think. He and his wife gave thousands of dollars to this church which means they wanted to advance its message. This quote from Trinity Church website:


[Link: www.tucc.org...]
The fortunate who are among us combine forces with the less fortunate to become agents of change for God who is not pleased with America’s economic mal-distribution!


So God is not pleased with American economic mal-distribution? Just what economic distribution method does Obama favor? CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN. Wright was correct about one thing, the roosters are coming home to roost.
People are not as gullible as they seem. People are deeply concerned that Obama's true feelings about our country really are like what his wife Michele has expressed: no pride in America. No reason to be proud. He wouldn't stand up to his pastor, and he won't stand up for America. I don't think he stands up to his wife, either, who is the real America hater and thanks to her, we have a keen insight into the true beliefs of the Obama family.

136 wanumba  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:12:50am
“If all I knew were those statements I saw on television, I would be shocked,” Obama said.


Harvard techniques in action.

Wright is a flaming, angry bigot, plain from the moment he opens his mouth. His self-concious choice of clothes advertises that he rejects his culture in favor of something else - he's not comfortable with what he is. He's got a Bible planted on his pulpit, just for show, because he's reading off a text he's composed that is in complete opposition to the Word of God. That so-called church is full of people who like what they hear. Those who came, innocently brought in by enthusiastic reviews and were apalled NEVER WENT BACK.
Must be a lot of fun mixing with that jacked up, pissed off congregation during coffee and donuts afterwards.
That's a nice building by the way. Judging by its size and facilities -paid for by church member collections, that group in the aggregate ISN'T POOR. It's a stage for Wright himself, all to focus on him, NOT the Lord God Almighty.
This is called charismatic leadership - leadership by force of personality. "Pastor" Wright captivates by the force of his own ego:
For the time will come when men will not put up with sound doctrine. Instead to suit their own desires, they will gather around them a great number of teachers who tell them what their itching ears want to hear. They will turn away from the truth and turn aside to myths. 2 Timothy 4:3-5

A reality and sobering check: Many congregations are lost, not just this one. This is just one permutation that appeals to that particular group of people, the ones who return each week to get more. Other people, no matter what color, fall for other myths. What traps one may not be the trap that snares another.
Obama seems to have no American identity - a man of the moment - raised without strong ties to family or roots, a man more comfortable in the international bureaucracy class, which is full of people like him. He's New Class, well-educated, monied with no deep convictions of loyalty.

What a choice from the Democrats, two - Obama and Hillary -horribly wrong candidates for the presidency, for what they are doing is coveting it, a sin: "Thou shalt not covet anything of thine neighbor."
Great presidents put their own desires aside for the good of the NATION.

137 debutaunt  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:13:40am

re: #130 mich-again

Jeremiah Wright, spiritual adviser. How ridiculous is that. He's just David Duke with a tan.

Excellent.

138 arcatan  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:16:38am

re: #103 Roger

“(Obama's speech on faith) may be the most important pronouncement by a Democrat on faith and politics since John F. Kennedy's Houston speech in 1960 declaring his independence from the Vatican...Obama offers the first faith testimony I have heard from any politician that speaks honestly about the uncertainties of belief.”

— E.J. Dionne, Op-Ed., Washington Post, June 30, 2006

Obviously this qualifies him for what exactly?.


Apparently he's now more qualified to be compared to JFK ... that says a lot to the Left who are waiting for a charismatic to unite them in happy happy hope.

But the tune is just a little different this time, they want unity as happy morally superior globalists not tainted with the history of unadulturated evil that is the USA.

About 6 years ago in my very Liberal little coastal California town, I developed a survey which asked (among other things) "Which historical figure(s) do you most respect?" Remarkably most respondents answered "no one" and those who did have someone in mind selected MLK, jr.

BO has been long in the making, a product of decades of historical deconstruction, Marxist influence, white guilt, and the youthful pretense to moral authority cultivated a radicalized academe.

139 Adrenalyn  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:19:15am

is the term "whitewash" in the thread
an indicator that B. Hussein Obama
used to have a "white" mother ?

what is she now, black too
kinda like Bill Clinton was the first black President
she is the first black "first momma" in waiting ?

man, I can't believe he would let people bash his mother this way with all the white bashing

she ought to disown him

or has she ?
matter of fact, where the flock is she ?

140 Perplexed  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:19:29am
“If all I knew were those statements I saw on television, I would be shocked,” Obama said.

Well, I've been led (by the main stream media) to believe that racists only come in one color, white. From what I've seen and heard on television and read on the internet, it seems that in some cases, a non-white can, indeed, be a racist.

Whites get villified for saying much less in private than what Reverend Racist said from the pulpit. Sad thing is that the R^2 claims to be a man of G_d.

Obama, does your minister wear a tin foil hat as well? I've heard that the evil ZOG mind control rays are mostly blocked by wrapping one's head in multiple layers of tin foil.

141 Adrenalyn  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:21:32am

re: #130 mich-again

Jeremiah Wright, spiritual adviser. How ridiculous is that. He's just David Duke with a tan.

he's Chris Rock without the funny, also

142 RickZ  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:24:53am

#139 Adrenalyn

man, I can't believe he would let people bash his mother this way with all the white bashing

she ought to disown him

or has she ?
matter of fact, where the flock is she ?

She's dead. Been that way for a while now.

143 countrygurl  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:25:19am

re: #139 Adrenalyn
She's dead. Pay attention.

144 TMF  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:25:38am

Not ONE msm story about this racial pimp has mentioned his most disgusting comment- "God Damn America" (said in front of children no less!)

Not ONE.

Just some airbrushed references to "contraversial" comments

If this was a white minister calling blacks "darkies" ya think they'd get into specifics?

145 Ojoe  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:35:57am

re: #138 arcatan

The California coastal town I live in has naked anti-war streakers in the 4th of July parade.

146 nyc redneck  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:39:44am

i hope he gets the nomination. the msm is not going to be able to keep a lid on all the osama baggage. too much of it to white wash.

147 Adrenalyn  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:45:03am

re: #142 RickZ

#139 Adrenalyn


She's dead. Been that way for a while now.

DAMN !
nobody told me
guess I'll crawl back under the Chris Rock that I've been hiding under

sometimes I don't get all the news
I think I should not trust the media so much

148 Adrenalyn  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:45:44am

re: #143 countrygurl

She's dead. Pay attention.

hey...I pay TAXES
isn't that enough ?

149 gman  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:45:48am

It's looking more and more like the Church was an important vehicle in Obama's rise to the top in Illinois politics. I have been looking into who exactly attends the church and a surprising number of judges, lawyers, and a current senator (Raoul Kwame) attend services at Trinity and proudly acknowledge this fact on their websites. Now, I have nothing against people attending services, but when you have many influential people attending a church where there is rampant anti- Americanism and racism of the extreme Afro-centrist variety you are asking for trouble.

How long before we see Obama's long- time "friends" from Trinity asking for their share of the "Change?"

How long before we see racist cronies like Jesse Jackson asking Obama to pony up some of the "Change?"

It's just a matter of time.

150 magooey  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:48:44am


Obama's pasta is cooked!

151 Syrah  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:49:21am

re: #145 Ojoe

The California coastal town I live in has naked anti-war streakers in the 4th of July parade.

Sounds like Santa Cruz.

152 Promethea  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 12:39:46pm

re: #146 nyc redneck

i hope he gets the nomination. the msm is not going to be able to keep a lid on all the osama baggage. too much of it to white wash.

They managed to keep a lid on Kerry's magic hat and fake war medals. They also kept a lid on how the medals he threw over the fence did not belong to him. They also managed to "swiftboat" the swiftboaters so that the swiftboaters were made to look like liars, instead of Kerry looking like a liar.

So, I don't expect the MSM to reveal Obama's emptiness, incompetence, and anti-American ties. Anyone who still has a chance to vote in a primary should vote for Hillary, just because Obama will be much much worse.

153 DANEgerus  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 1:04:36pm

So the AP will "steal" naked pictures of Spitzer's hooker 'Kristen', but they won't expose the "Rev" hater?

So... not surprised.

Oh... and Sweetness & Light owns this story... since 1/25/2007 and the first video.

154 Dr. Shalit  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 1:09:47pm

re: #49 Ojoe

He should pick Romney as his VP and then try to look frail.

Ojoe -

Considering the Campaign Finance Law that he sponsored, Sen. McCain may HAVE to take Mitt Romney as VP to finance the campaign. Not as bad a comeuppance as the tomorrow to be FORMER Governor of NY got - Poetic Justice Just the Same.

-S-

155 Perplexed  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 1:21:22pm
156 anotherindyfilmguy  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 1:24:49pm
“If all I knew were those statements I saw on television, I would be shocked,” Obama said.


"But", he continued, "having seen them in person one has to account for various social factors being addressed in a colloquial manner most outside of the Church could never fully fathom, ya'll being racist scum and all..."
/additional subtext provided for those who don't get it yet...

157 Ward Cleaver  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 1:41:38pm

Obama is a lying sack, and the AP is worse, covering for him. Scumbags.

158 vagabond trader  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 1:49:49pm

re: #147 Adrenalyn

His white grandmother who raised him is very much alive last I heard. Why has the African step grandmother been all over the news, but not word one about the other half? A most peculiar man this Obama person.I suspect many snakes in head.

159 forrest  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 1:57:17pm

CNN just did it moments ago. They reported that Obama's Pastor had made "controversial comments" and then showed what amounted to a 5 minute Obama infomercial withour any mention of specifics.

I commented that they failed to quote the Pastor's comments directly and my wife, who doesn't follow this stuff closely asked me what they were.

I said "He said we invented AIDS to wipe out black people and some other equally crazy and racist things"

She said, "Wha, Wha, What?!"

160 Perplexed  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 2:03:54pm

re: #158 vagabond trader

White grandmother is a political embarassment for Obama and his liberal supporters. Black grandmother, on the other hand, makes for some (pardon the pun) colorful reporting.

161 hazzyday  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 2:21:20pm

re: #22 jcm

...its about all i need to know that your "mentor/spiritual guide" is a bigoted, lying, racist of the worst kind.

And his political mentor is a Gramsician Whore.

Obama's mentors consists of lying bigoted, racist, communists.

But then I'm keeping the Black Man (50% white, 45% arab, 5% black) down.

I keep seeing this 45 percent Arab nonsense on Obama? Where is there any proof on this? Kenya claims him as a member of he Luo tribe and a muslim from mostly a Christian tribal area. The name only is Arab. Which is a common practice. His family tree on his father's side looks all African. The Luo tribe is not an Arab entity.

162 hazzyday  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 2:26:18pm

Among the people I know that are mixed race, the ones with the stronger characters value both of their herititages. And they project it as love for their parents. More immature, less well developed people, or hurt people can think more of one race over another and incur the inherent problems in doing something like that. Ungrounded. I think Obama is such a person.

163 jaydee  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 2:33:11pm

Out of interest I jogged along to Al-BBC News website, for the life of me, I can see no mention of this story on their site. If there is, its hidden well. Truly worrying from a UK prospective, but not really surprising with their nasty biased and warped track record.

164 wanumba  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 5:12:38pm

re: #161 hazzyday

I keep seeing this 45 percent Arab nonsense on Obama? Where is there any proof on this? Kenya claims him as a member of he Luo tribe and a muslim from mostly a Christian tribal area. The name only is Arab. Which is a common practice. His family tree on his father's side looks all African. The Luo tribe is not an Arab entity.


Guess that paragraph will have to be repeated a lot until it sinks in.

Don't know where that Arab percentage bit is coming from, either. Arab and Muslim are NOT the same terms. One is the name of a population of shared descent, the other the name of a person who practices Islam. Not all Arabs are Muslim. Not all Muslims are Arabs.
Luos are of Black African Niolitic descent, not Arab. Many are Christians, many are pagans, some are Muslim. Gotta ask the individual first what he or she believes, don't assume.

165 katt  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 6:31:48pm

"If all I knew were those statements I saw on television, I would be shocked," Obama said.
So does this mean he's not shocked and accepts that crap spewed by his mentor.
If Obama did not know, he is either deaf or stupid. If he doesn't know what goes on in a church he attended regularly for 20 years, how the hell could he be trusted to know what's going on in the world? I'd say Obama is a liar.

166 Andy Dufresne  Sun, Mar 16, 2008 7:20:30pm

The media's "coverage" of Bambi has been nothing short of revolting. For the news outlets to ignore this story is an out-and-out disgrace. If this was anyone else, they'd be up in arms. The amount of white guilt within America's news centers and how it dictates the near-universal pro-coverage of Bambi is nauseating.


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