you must be joking.

he didn't address any of my resentment. actually, he just made me feel like a bigot. way to heal those wounds, obama.

gut.wrenching because it was an amazing attempt to have his cake and eat it too? i'll agree with that.

Oh puke!

He really needs to lay off the poppers. They've rotted his brain.

Gut-wrenching, yes it did make me want to vomit.

Hysterical.

Feh!

And I'll add, Sully is completely full of shit.

re: #8 Ward Cleaver

amen.

Do they pay this guy by the syllable? Otherwise, I don't see the point of all the adjectives.

He has a crush!

"Nuance?"

He ain't running for the EU...

"Deeply, deeply Christian?"

I must have missed that part. Odd I don't see it in the transcription either. Did he make the sign of the cross or something else that I missed?

"White fear" "Black anger"

Sully be projecting hard...

===

It might be time to shave the back of Barry O's head, looking for numbers...

NUMBER
OF
THE,
R

Oh, brother is right~!

What blather...

The whole gay marriage thing drove Sully batshit crazy.

urgh. It's not about race is the thing....

This was such a great duck bob and weave. Obama changed the subject, and MSM is going along for the rabbit trail ride because they want it to be so.

re: #3 Narniaman

What the fuck is wrong with you?

OT Who can help?
Reward re Brown Jewish Agency/Hillel firebombing

Chrissi Matthews slobbers at Obama's sacred feet.

If anyone knows searing, nuanced, and gut-wrenching, it's Sullivan.

/

re: #16 Thanos

I agree. I don't see this as a race issue at all.

Do I smell a big ole' man crush?

Pass me an emesis tray, quick.

I heard some of that speech, and to me it should have killed any chance whatsoever of Barack Obama becoming President of the United States--it showed him to be completely unfit for office.

If he is willing to declare that the paranoid, anti-American rantings of his pastor are merely justifiable anger about injustices against blacks, it should be the last we ever hear of Obama as a public official.

But I suppose it's not too surprising that Andrew Sullivan saw it differently.

re: #20 Alouette

Chrissi Matthews slobbers at Obama's sacred feet.

"Matthews, stop slobbering on my shoes!"

"Yes, Messiah!"

"The most honest speech..." I must have been watching something else.

Sorry Andy

How can a speech be gut-wrenching, searing and yet nuanced?
How can a speech be loyal?
Calling all knights:
Will no one rid us of these meddlesome adjectives?

Sweet Jeebus.

Get a freikin' room if you want to keep up that flagrant public toungebathing, St. Sully.

Andrew Sullivan - "real" conservative.

The most honest speech on "race" is the daily actions of millions and millions of Americans who look past it to see the dignity of the individual.

re: #13 Render

"Deeply, deeply Christian?"

I must have missed that part. Odd I don't see it in the transcription either. Did he make the sign of the cross or something else that I missed?

yeah. just what the heck did he think was deepy Christian about it? hmph. sully probably never cracked open a Bible so he wouldn't know anyway.

kirls

I've said it before and I will say it again

Obama is to racism
what Osama is to terrorism

the ringleader

Quote:

"This is where we are right now. It’s a racial stalemate we’ve been stuck in for years"

Doesn't sound like he came up with anything new to me...

Let the record show, that in the City of Brotherly Love on this day, before a friendly audience, when the Presidential candidate could have answered questions, he put his tail between his legs and high-tailed it out of Dodge.

He's gone from:

"Come on guys; I answered like eight questions."

To answering none.

Super hot breaking news/rumor over at The Jawa Report... [Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]
Rumor: Zawahiri Dead?

I love this country. I don't remember loving it or hoping more from it than today.

So, in other words, you're proud of your country for the first time today.

re: #22 Killgore Trout

I agree. I don't see this as a race issue at all.

Absolutely, we have another troofer in our faces with Wright. Troofiness afflicts all races equally.

re: #34 doriangrey

Super hot breaking news/rumor over at The Jawa Report... [Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]
Rumor: Zawahiri Dead?

I question the timing

/s

re: #34 doriangrey

Yes, please! Let it be so.

re: #22 Killgore Trout

I agree. I don't see this as a race issue at all.

yeah, it's not about race. it's about hatred of America!

Put me down as one person who doesn't understand the anger of black people, or believe that their hopes have been dashed.

Ah the torture queen has found his messiah--he's getting old and silly.

re: #10 Yashmak

Oh. You already mentioned the adjectives. I am deeply, deeply, deeply, deeply, and perhaps also profoundly, in a nuanced sort of way, sorry, yet relieved.
Yes, I know. You have been waiting for such a searing apology for an entire generation.

Every Christian on God's green earth that doesn't fall in line behind Sullivan's self-anointed ethos is labeled a "Christianist". (you know - those who are no different that Islamists)

But Obama is a true Christian! The only true Christian!

PRAISE THE LORD HALLELUJAH!

Welcome to the hussein Spin Zone.

The only thing wrenching his gut is his lover's hand groping for a reach-around.

searing, nuanced, gut-wrenching, loyal,

Why am I have Lurch flashbacks?

re: #19 Sunlight

We live near Providence and there was nary a word in the media about this incident over the weekend.

re: #30 kirly

aw man! Charles! your server ate my post! :-}

Messiah speaks!
Moonbats swoon!
Sullivan drops a load before he hits the road.
Tokers go, "Errr . . . what? Oh! Right on"
Thinkers go, "Huh?!"

If our nation gives this guy a pass into the WH, then we truly are without a moral compass.

He's a smooth talker - from one side of his mouth comes condemnation to the white man for all those who have been held back by racisim, then from the other side of his mouth he acknowledges that he managed to rise to the top in spite of that racism.

Which is it BHO?

I can imagine the judges he would appoint. This man is scary.

But I do want to say that this searing, nuanced, gut-wrenching, loyal, and deeply, deeply Christian speech is the most honest speech on race in America in my adult lifetime. It is a speech we have all been waiting for for a generation.

/Didn't he lift that from Hugh Hewitt's response to Mitt Romney's speech?

Sorry, Hugh. Just kidding.

re: #39 kirly

Exactly. I don't care about the racial background of any of those involved. It's the anti-American rhetoric and conspiracy theories that are the issue.

Thank God he had to hit the road.

Groveling sycophant.

re: #34 doriangrey

Super hot breaking news/rumor over at The Jawa Report... [Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]
Rumor: Zawahiri Dead?

I surmised on the Sunday AM deadthread that attack could have yielded some big fishes. Gut feeling.

Hope I was right.

re: #48 kirly

And here I thought you just liked saying my name...

DASHED,
R

re: #34 doriangrey

Super hot breaking news/rumor over at The Jawa Report... [Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]
Rumor: Zawahiri Dead?

Also from your link:

We'll keep MC Hammer on ice for now. Way too cryptic, and Arabs have an odd cultural penchant for keeping doctors around as a way to legitimize just about everything.

my good lib friend wrote to tell me it was sooo authentic and it changed her mind about the Obama and all. I asked her if she knew that his church had a whiff of stan. Haven't heard back.

Alas, I cannot give a more considered response right now as I have to get on the road.

"And while I have not yet heard the speech, I'm pretty sure it was just beautifully warm and fuzzy".

re: #13 Render

It might be time to shave the back of Barry O's head, looking for numbers...

NUMBER
OF
THE,
R

The History Channel just pointed out that the number of the beast might be 666 or 6106. Either way, the head shaving should commence posthaste.

I heard Rush Limbaugh say ... Rodney King could have delivered this speech. In fact, he did once. In six words. Can't we all just get along?

lol

Chris Matthews --- yeah figures.

I see this as more of a intra-party speech addressing the racist pact within the Democrat party. White supporters were trying to convince themselves that voting for Obama proved they aren't inherently racist. Obama was just reassuring them that they will still be able to self-flagellate and vote for him at the same time.

TRANSLATION - (FOR THOSE NOT ACCUSTOMED TO SULLIVAN'S PROSE):

"Obama gives me a boner."

re: #17 Killgore Trout

What the fuck is wrong with you?

Moby he's Wright?

Sullivan's "Conservative Soul" is so full of hatred towards real conservatives that he has linked arms with Neo-Marxist socialist big-nanny state eternal victim big-government types.

I predict he'll be a Hillary supporter before long. Just wait until Obama is her bitch.

Obama-nation said that people should not "focus on distractions..."

A candidate for POTUS who listens to someone for 20 years saying things like:

"No, no, no...G_dd@mn America"

In a sermon after the terrorist attacks on Sept. 11, 2001: "We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Wright said. "We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost."

"Hillary can never know that. Hillary ain't never been called a n-----."

“Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run!...We [in the U.S.] believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.”

“The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now. Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism.”

is not a distraction, Obama. They are very important hate-filled statements that you must explain your involvement with.

Wright is a hater...and you, Obama, have him as a close confidant. You, sir, are not POTUS material.

Period.

~ENT

the most honest speech on race in America in my adult lifetime.

I guess he never listened to Martin Luther King Jr?

re: #39 kirly

yeah, it's not about race. it's about hatred of America!

Absolutely! It's about treason and sedition!

Here's a quarter, Obama.

Get lost and call someone who cares.

Oh,...and by the way: keep the 'change'.

~ENT

I wonder when the Obamaworm is really going to turn?

I believe Obama was not talking to me today. He knows I'm not going to vote for a socialist. I feel he was talking to his base. I think the Democrat party gave him their best speechwriters.

I think I'm gonna faint.

re: #68 bar

I guess he never listened to Martin Luther King Jr?

There's that ADULT lifetime again.

A so-called 'speech" which divides America into two camps -- one White, the other Black -- divided by races -- with each "race" going at each other's throats is not "unifying." Nor is it "nuanced." It's anything but "nuanced." it's completely Manichean. Frankly, I consider it anti-American. Obama has picked up on and enhanced the rhetoric from hate preachers of the Malcolm X, Nation of Islam, and Rev Wright variety. So, they're all unified in one thing -- They Despise the United States of America. Wow. What an accomplishment. They don't deserve praise; they deserve scorn and condemnation.

Although - I have no problem with Sullivan's blind faith adoration for Obama. That's fine. What pisses me off about Sullivan is his own ridiculous notion that he still considers himself and calls himself a conservative - and his throwing around his vapid made-up word "Christianist."

re: #55 Render

And here I thought you just liked saying my name...

DASHED,
R

but i do! Rrrrrreeeennnnddeerrrrrr! lol

no dashing!

Kirls

re: #68 bar

I guess he never listened to Martin Luther King Jr?

Nah, MLK was a real Christianist who talked about character, real justice and other irrelevant stuff

re: #73 DesertSage

I think I'm gonna faint.

Don't worry about that there are plenty of us for you to land on.

re: #73 DesertSage

I think I'm gonna faint.

*throws a bottle of water at Sage*

Does anyone else find it most peculiar that the press are seemingly not allowed to question the Obama?I don't recall an election cycle when a major candidate would not hold regular press Q+A, or even irregular ones.

re: #61 buzzsawmonkey

If people don't think in terms of groupthink identity, they're harder to mobilize as voting blocs. That means more work and headaches for aspiring politicians interested in privileging themselves and controlling others.

Somebody should just ask Obama "What is your view on capitalism?" I'll be really curious what he answers.

He's trying to make it a race issue. Like we're hating his preacher because he is black, not because he is an America hater.

re: #40 Bearster

Put me down as one person who doesn't understand the anger of black people, or believe that their hopes have been dashed.

It's their thing. Like being blond. Or funny. Or a bodybuilder. Some (not all) have had it instilled in them as a child, and and use it to define themselves as adults.

Or else they just like being perpetually angry at whitey.

Heh™

Hillary is not done with him. Wait until the real fireworks begin.

We all know that Sullivan has been ridin' dirty!

re: #48 kirly

aw man! Charles! your server ate my post! :-}

Must have been a good one!

re: #83 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican

I'd like to here him answer ANY questions, without a script.

No one with any common sense whatever is going to fall for this embarrassing charade. Obama won't stop digging until he hits bottom somewhere in China. The MSM and the leftoid leadership will continue to slobber over him as more and more normal American voters start to look at him like something the dog has just dropped at the curb and they really do not look forward to picking up. People who are capable of asking themselves whether they are willing to endanger their own futures as well as those of their children by electing a race-obsessed subscriber to Black Liberation Theology. That's what it comes down to. Are you willing to hand over your life to this guy so he can act out his triumphal vision of The Black Experience and fantasies of uniting all "people of color" in the world to bring down Western Civilization and replace it with what? Some third-world style utopia?

No, thanks.

I gotta go hit Caption This! for some Sully-skewering.

re: #12 snowcrash

He has a crush!

he's crazy abt. hussein. he sounds like a love struck teenager.
( love truly is blind.)

TOTALLY O/T AND JUST BECAUSE I'M JUVENILE ENOUGH TO FIND THIS FUNNY:

Remember when they used to crucify Christians on crosses or set them on fire in gardens to light the paths for Nero?

Yep. Those were the days when you knew someone REALLY meant it when they said they were a "Christian".

So easy to say those words now-a-days.

Not back then, though.

Not by a long shot....

/empty words

~ENT

Speaking of food, I just scarfed down a couple of pounds of fresh, fried ocean Perch. Man, I'm in heaven. :)

Obama is using the Wright scandal to push race over gender in Dem voters' minds.

re: #67 etnorsktroll

Oh! Would that every one of us could ding you UP more than once ! ! !

re: #81 vagabond trader

The press is repulsive. Thank heavens for Fox, and the blogs.

Wow...talking about not getting it...

Talking about believing someone so hard, and ignoring danger signs...

Wow...

The one and only thing that impressed me today is that Barack [redacted] Obama can memorize and deliver a speech, with lots of head and eye movement, before a friendly audience, as long as he doesn't have to answer questions afterwards.

My gut wrenched after hearing it.

Andrew Sullivan is an expert on Christianity. Who knew?

If the Obama campaign gets past this issue it will be because of the public has the attention span of a gnat.

re: #103 pittboy

The press exists to make sure that happens as a matter of course.

re: #100 EC Marm

He was reading from a teleprompter.

re: #83 PatrioticNaturalizedAmerican

Somebody should just ask Obama "What is your view on capitalism?" I'll be really curious what he answers.

He's trying to make it a race issue. Like we're hating his preacher because he is black, not because he is an America hater.

i don't know if anyone else noticed or not, but that preacher is more white than half white obama. he's nearly as white as me. for him to hate what is clearly a majority of his own heritage is nuts!

re: #13 Render

"Nuance?"

He ain't running for the EU...

"Deeply, deeply Christian?"

I must have missed that part. Odd I don't see it in the transcription either. Did he make the sign of the cross or something else that I missed?

"White fear" "Black anger"

Sully be projecting WHILE HE IS hard...

===

It might be time to shave the back of Barry O's head, looking for numbers...

NUMBER
OF
THE,
R

fixed that line for ya...

OT (kinda)

Looks like the vote in Florida may not be so close come November:

Florida to Democrats: Count us or lose support

MIAMI (Reuters) - One in four Florida Democrats said they would be less likely to support the party's nominee in the November presidential election if the state's primary election results are ignored, according to a poll released on Tuesday.

In the poll of 600 registered and frequent Democratic voters, 89 percent said it was important Florida's delegates count in the party's presidential nominating convention. Twenty-four percent said they would be less likely to vote for the Democratic nominee if Florida delegates are not seated.

so let me get this straight:

*If you are a left-wing politician - you can be a "Christian".

*If you are a right-wing politician -you cannot be a Christiand due to separation of church and state issues.

As President I can only imagine he would tuck bad economic news or admissions of policy failure into a long winded speech about his upbringing, race or opportunity.

It's like in A Christmas Story where a few tears and the story of the falling icicle is used to mask the real admission of broken glasses.

Alas, I cannot give a more considered response right now as I have to get on the road. But I do want to say that this searing, nuanced, gut-wrenching, loyal, and deeply, deeply Christian speech is the most honest speech on race in America in my adult lifetime.

Woahthere stomach, easy now.....

/taking a handful of wild yam capsules...

re: #109 FrogMarch

so let me get this straight:

*If you are a left-wing politician - you can be a "Christian".

*If you are a right-wing politician -you cannot be a Christian due to separation of church and state issues.

there.

re: #74 Bloodnok

There's that ADULT lifetime again.

What “you tube” didn’t exist during his adult lifetime?

Nuance my arse ... all he did was blatantly base his candidacy on race, which it already was, though heretofore vehemently denied and craftily camouflaged. He answered none of the issues in contention.

Today's performance will live to haunt him ... he's toast.

re: #89 vagabond trader

I'd like to here him answer ANY questions, without a script.

You hit it right there.

re: #90 infidelia

No one with any common sense whatever is going to fall for this embarrassing charade.

Too late. They already did.

From Memri - "Palestinians Seek Death ..."

I honestly thought it was a good speech.

To the point of "nuance:"

BO's point was that most Americans have skeletons in their closet and acquaintances that are not ideal (agreed: Wright was way, way worse than "not ideal" and whatever BO called him). In short, Americans are not perfect, but they strive to be.

America as a nation is a reflection of its people in this sense. It has had its own checkered past, and even today has citizens that make the vast majority of us cringe (extremists of all shades, as outlined on LGF daily).

He presented himself as a candidate that followed this trend, imperfect and trying to improve.

Obama says that he repudiates what Wright said.

Well & fine.

What I want to know is, does Wright repudiate what he said...or does he stand by his remarks?

~ENT

re: #105 rappmandu

He was reading from a teleprompter.

that's right! anyone who watched his pathetic interviews on this topic knows that he stammers around alot without a teleprompter. gee, what intellect.

I hereby declare Silly Season 2008 officially OPEN!

re: #95 Cartman

Speaking of food, I just scarfed down a couple of pounds of fresh, fried ocean Perch. Man, I'm in heaven. :)

I'm about to scarf down a bowl of butter pecan ice cream, so there!

< rude sarcasm >

Anyone else get the feeling Sully wants to bob Barry's knob, but Chris Matthews is in the way?

< / rude sarcasm >

I caught this over at Ace's a little bit earlier, and it bears repeating. The statements that Wright made aren't just controversial - they're vile and heinous. Yet, Obama prefaced his comments by claiming that "...they could be considered controversial." Well, on what planet would they not be controversial? Other than Planet Koskid or Planet Splodydope, Luap Nor or even Trooferworld, these comments are vile and heinous and can't be considered anything but.

Of course Sullivan goes over the top to spew forth on Obama's speech. It's yet another example of the inability to understand the issue at hand and grasping for rhetoric and charisma. Hope and change trumps facts or the question of how and why Obama could be around Rev. Wright for two decades and not notice, listen, hear, or otherwise pick up on the vile, racist, and kooky rants of his minister. Did no one else notice this either? Or was there silent assent? That's perhaps the most troubling thing out of all this. These parishioners had no problems with what Rev. Wright said all these years. That includes Obama, who only after the fact of being caught with all these ugly statements on tape, says that someone should have spoken up.

That tells me yet again that you're lacking in leadership Mr. Obama. You aren't ready - and perhaps never will be.

re: #74 Bloodnok

There's that ADULT lifetime again.

Yes. Definitely something to watch for [talk about "nuance!"]. Also be aware, he "never heard" those things "while sitting in a pew" [where were you sitting/standing?], and other seemingly casual "details."

Mark. My. Words.

re: #3 Narniaman

inappropriate. completely inappropriate. mock the conspiracy theories all you like, but don't do slander victims of the virus, or make light of its effects.

re: #109 FrogMarch

so let me get this straight:

*If you are a left-wing politician - you can be a "Christian".

*If you are a right-wing politician -you cannot be a Christiand due to separation of church and state issues.

Precisely.

re: #86 buzzsawmonkey

But Ferraro was wrong, and Obama is not playing the race card in his run.

Oh gawd, I'm finding myself defending her.
* swallows hard*
BUT, afaict, she never accused him of playing the race card. She only pointed out his minor abundance of melanin and said, lacking that, he never would have gotten as far as he did.

re: #102 Cicero05

He spends a lot of time on his knees, doesn't he?

Sully must have felt a tingle running up and down his muscly glutes.

Alas, I cannot give a more considered response right now as I have to get on the road. But I do want to say that this searing, nuanced, gut-wrenching, loyal, and deeply, deeply Christian speech is the most honest speech on race in America in my adult lifetime. It is a speech we have all been waiting for for a generation. Its ability to embrace both the legitimate fears and resentments of whites and the understandable anger and dashed hopes of many blacks was, in my view, unique in recent American history.

/not bad for one-handed typing

re: #108 Racer X

OT (kinda)

Looks like the vote in Florida may not be so close come November:

Eh, it's just Florida. It's not like it ever mattered who wins there.

Something is interfering w/ Andrew's brain. Seriously.

On a totally unrelated note, I think #3 was the first deleted comment I saw here before it got deleted.

Being a shade lighter than Obama I really wish white Americans would stop being cowed by race baiters, charlatans, and retreating to silence in the face of demagogic attacks, no matter their perceived elegance.

re: #118 eastsider

I honestly thought it was a good speech.

To the point of "nuance:"

BO's point was that most Americans have skeletons in their closet and acquaintances that are not ideal (agreed: Wright was way, way worse than "not ideal" and whatever BO called him). In short, Americans are not perfect, but they strive to be.

America as a nation is a reflection of its people in this sense. It has had its own checkered past, and even today has citizens that make the vast majority of us cringe (extremists of all shades, as outlined on LGF daily).

He presented himself as a candidate that followed this trend, imperfect and trying to improve.

I don't believe a word of that. He stuck for 20 years with a racist ranting preacher because he wants some kind of racial vengeance on whites, not because he is striving to be better.

I'm just wondering, in terms of delegates, is it actually possible for Obama's numerical advantage to disappear?

In other words, with the remaining states left in play, is it possible for Hilary to actually take a numerical lead in delegates OR a majority of the popular vote?

re: #109 FrogMarch

Lib Christians are superior in their beliefs and their Christianity is about social gospel and all.If Jesus is ever mentioned he is portrayed as a proper black activist who hates white Europeans. Or some such dreck.

Lefties look for political messiahs who will magically fix everything by the blazing power of their aura.

Conservatives look for someone with rational policy positions.

re: #128 EC Marm

The big picture is, anyone who tries to make the election a race issue is a Democrat. Of course, the Republicans are the "racist" party.

re: #136 infidelia

But he's half white? Why would he want vengeance on 50% of his family tree?

re: #108 Racer X

I think McCain would take Florida anyhow, no matter who the Democrat nominee is. There are a lot of military, active and retired, living in Florida.

That the Democrats shot themselves in the foot by punishing the Florida delegates...just re-enforces the advantage McCain has there.

I'm from Kansas City and O'Reilly is interviewing the editor of the local paper, Kansas City Star Editorial Board. Wrote an editorial praising Wright and Glowbama. What a maroon. Has no idea why white folks don't cotton to a preacher God damning America, hating Jews,and promoting the AIDS caused by the government rumor. I think I heard him support the moon landing as theatre theory. Sheesh. Do I hafta cancel this rag again? Might as well read Kos.

re: #122 GeeWiz

I'm about to scarf down a bowl of butter pecan ice cream, so there!

Man, that sounds good. :)

re: #100 EC Marm

The one and only thing that impressed me today is that Barack [redacted] Obama can memorize and deliver a speech, with lots of head and eye movement, before a friendly audience, as long as he doesn't have to answer questions afterwards.

Are you sure he wasn't using a teleprompter?

re: #125 LeePro

Yes. Definitely something to watch for [talk about "nuance!"]. Also be aware, he "never heard" those things "while sitting in a pew" [where were you sitting/standing?], and other seemingly casual "details."

Mark. My. Words.

I did not "hear" them in a pew
I did not "hear" them in a queue
I did not "hear" them sitting down
I did not "hear" them with a frown

re: #137 looking closely

I'm just wondering, in terms of delegates, is it actually possible for Obama's numerical advantage to disappear?

In other words, with the remaining states left in play, is it possible for Hilary to actually take a numerical lead in delegates OR a majority of the popular vote?

Well, with a couple hundred superdelegates, the lead could change if they flee Obama to Hillary.

The problem for Hillary is that she's got her own skeletons - Norman Hsu being only the most recent (and should be most prominent one, among many).

AS's comment reminds me of this Monty Python skit...The great Eric Idle as the Compare

... (grovelling) Ladies and gentlemen, someone whom I've always personally admired, perhaps more deeply, more strongly, more abjectly than ever before. (applause) A man, well more than a man, a god (applause), a great god, whose personality is so totally and utterly wonderful my feeble words of welcome sound wretchedly and pathetically inadequate. (by now on his knees) Someone whose boots I would gladly lick clean until holes wore through my tongue, a man who is so totally and utterly wonderful, that I would rather be sealed in a pit of my own filth, than dare tread on the same Stage with him.

re: #141 eastsider

But he's half white? Why would he want vengeance on 50% of his family tree?

Maybe God should only damn half the whites in America, then. Seems fair.

/sarc

re: #34 doriangrey

As he notes AJ Strata was first about 6 hours ago with this.

I was actually surprised that Obama criticized Wright at all, saying that his views were antiquated. After listening to Obamites say over and over again that Wright is simply telling it like it is for Blacks in Amerikkka, I thought that to even hint that Wright might be wrong would lose Obama support among the faithful. Evidently, I underestimated the power of Faith and Hope™.

re: #138 vagabond trader

Lib Christians are superior in their beliefs and their Christianity is about social gospel and all.If Jesus is ever mentioned he is portrayed as a proper black activist who hates white Europeans. Or some such dreck.

Wasn't Jim Jones and his compound in Guyana all about the Social Gospel, too?

It is a speech we have all been waiting for for a generation. Its ability to embrace both the legitimate fears and resentments of whites and the understandable anger and dashed hopes of many blacks was, in my view, unique in recent American history.

Sheesh, if it's the same speech I heard, then all I can say is, you are easily pleased and a first class ignoramus to boot.

re: #146 Bloodnok

I did not "hear" them in a pew
I did not "hear" them in a queue
I did not "hear" them sitting down
I did not "hear" them with a frown

I did not hear them here or there
I did not hear them anywhere
I did not Wright say "God d**n"
I did not hear it, Sam I am!

For those lizards away from their computers earlier today, here's my take on the speech. I suspect you'll agree with me more than Sullivan:

My take on the speech:

I think that it was a great speech.
A great speech, a terrifying speech.
He believes in all of Wright's hateful rhetoric. He just says it better. Calmly, not ranting.
He's just saying we all have someone to hate. Blacks hate whites for keeping them down. Whites hate the corporations for sending jobs overseas.
He can unite us, unite us in hatred of the system; hatred of America.
He did say, G-d damn America, if you listened carefully enough.
He just hid it really well.

He played a whole deck of race cards while saying we shouldn't.

He's a wolf in sheep's clothing, a silver-tongued orator you don't realize is orating, wrapping his audience around his little finger - if you don't think.
And his delivery makes it harder to think. I had to keep my mind going to keep from being hypnotized.
Obama believers had no chance.

Yes, he wants change – a revolution, really. His complete slogan is
“Yes, we can stick it to the Man!”

He's dangerous.

re: #147 lawhawk

Well, with a couple hundred superdelegates, the lead could change if they flee Obama to Hillary.

The problem for Hillary is that she's got her own skeletons - Norman Hsu being only the most recent (and should be most prominent one, among many).

Here's the DNC's choices, in a nutshell:

Either someone who fleeces America...or d@mns America.

Choose now!

heh.

~ENT

re: #141 eastsider

But he's half white? Why would he want vengeance on 50% of his family tree?

That's the really sick part of it. He has so totally identified with the "oppressed" minority component of his own ancestry that it is making him reject the rest. The man is at war with himself. How is he going to be a "uniting" force for anyone except others of similar mindset?

Watching It's the Easter Beagle, Charlie Brown with my kids. Dang ABC, they runs ads for that trashy new show, Miss Guided, during this show. The show with Jamie Lynn Spears.

Mosque fiend caged

A MUSLIM leader who claimed he was preaching at a mosque when he was really carrying out a brutal rape was jailed for ten years yesterday.

Abdul Mukin Khalisadar, 26, held a knife to his victim’s throat as he attacked her in her home.

He persuaded seven men to back up his story that he had been in the mosque at the time.

Khalisadar later admitted raping the 27-year-old.

He claimed a substance he took to help with fasting during Ramadan had made him “hyper”.

. . .

Seven members of East London Mosque admitted perverting justice and got 12 months each.

Burka-clad women in the public gallery yelled abuse at the judge — and one screamed that the victim was a prostitute.

/see, it's okay, he was just hyper and she was a prostitute anyway

All together now..

re: #151 buzzsawmonkey

In point of fact, the Obam' Phenom' is a manifestation of the Church of the State.

And therein lies the urgent and extreme peril...

The racial rhetoric is wearing awfully thin. It is a screen put up to deflect the real issue here, and Obama is very good at throwing said smokescreen up. He is a radical Socialist at best. He is a full blown Black Nationalist/Communist at worst.

This is about ideology and it is up to all of us, with McCain on point, to clear out the obfuscation and sight in the real differences here. What is it going to take to draw this charlatan out into the world of real ideas? One can safely dismiss sycophants like Sullivan.

At first I saw Obama as vacuous. I know see, given his refusal to deny the America haters, that he is a very serious ideologue.

Obama is a first-class demagogue. He brings up race to excuses/explains Wright's behavior

For the men and women of Reverend Wright’s generation, the memories of humiliation and doubt and fear have not gone away; nor has the anger and the bitterness of those years. That anger may not get expressed in public, in front of white co-workers or white friends. But it does find voice in the barbershop or around the kitchen table. At times, that anger is exploited by politicians, to gin up votes along racial lines, or to make up for a politician’s own failings.

Then he brings in the usual democrat class baiting...

Just as black anger often proved counterproductive, so have these white resentments distracted attention from the real culprits of the middle class squeeze – a corporate culture rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting practices, and short-term greed; a Washington dominated by lobbyists and special interests; economic policies that favor the few over the many. And yet, to wish away the resentments of white Americans, to label them as misguided or even racist, without recognizing they are grounded in legitimate concerns – this too widens the racial divide, and blocks the path to understanding.

Then he subtly brings in the solution to these problems...

This is where we are right now. It’s a racial stalemate we’ve been stuck in for years. Contrary to the claims of some of my critics, black and white, I have never been so naive as to believe that we can get beyond our racial divisions in a single election cycle, or with a single candidacy – particularly a candidacy as imperfect as my own.

And just in case you missed the subtlety, he repeats and repeats the Not This Time mantra, which is another vapid way of stating Change. Or vote for me.

And people bought this shit? They see it as a speech on racial healing? Amazing.

Obama the Messiah! It's like Monty Python's "The Life of Brian."

Garrrrrgggghh.

Oh, brother.

He does sound a little like my brother, of the Bartcop persuasion. Hey, don't blame me, I could use some sympathy here!

It didn't matter what Obama said in his speech. The true believers are going to tell you that it was the best ever. They have to.

re: #141 eastsider

my take is that the Obama is an angry man, conflicted by his self image of being niether fish or fowl. He desires to belong,so he IDs with his black half, helped along by the gentle ministry of pastor Wright.He kicks Wright to the curb, he fears losing that blackness connection. Hence the churlish mention of his white Granny, the denial of the true nature of his mentor/uncle. A very scary, complex individual.

re: #34 doriangrey

Super hot breaking news/rumor over at The Jawa Report... [Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]
Rumor: Zawahiri Dead?

Well, it would be excellent news if confirmed. AQ, aka Jihad Inc., has lots of doctors of death running around these days, and Zawahiri is just one. Still, the pace of these kinds of strikes appears to be quickening, suggesting that the US got a break somewhere along the line that has enabled them to target the jihadis quicker and more accurately than just a few months ago.

Meanwhile, still no word from Adam Gadahn aka Fat Traitorous Bastard.

re: #118 eastsider

I honestly thought it was a good speech.

Only read the text myself... from which I would surmise that I kind of agree with you...

I look at this in the context of the democratic nomination process. Obama wants to strengthen his support amongst the delegates before the last primaries - especially PA where he is trailing.

So he gives a speech that not only his supporters can absorb but even more so those superdelegates who may be on the line.

I for one cannot relate to many of the lizards here who are being so vehement about this speech. Reading the text it appears pretty much what one would expect of a politician trying to address a heated issue... a mixture of softened criticism and mentions of possible support groups (e.g., the factory worker who loses their job due to outsourcing.)

re: #156 Kosh's Shadow

Well said.

Alas, gack, spew, hurl, choke.

re: #144 Cartman

Man, that sounds good. :)

Good can't even begin to describe it. I feel I deserve it after the events I endured today; stock market, BHO's lecture etc. I need something of pleasure to distract me from the negatives.

"Always with the bad vibes man".
/Cheech & Chong

re: #118 eastsider

I honestly thought it was a good speech.

To the point of "nuance:"

BO's point was that most Americans have skeletons in their closet and acquaintances that are not ideal (agreed: Wright was way, way worse than "not ideal" and whatever BO called him). In short, Americans are not perfect, but they strive to be.

So nobody's perfect, so what?

That doesn't explain Obama's decade long association with a racist crackpot, nor does it excuse it. Obama hasn't said he is leaving the church in question either, even though every reference to Wright was meticulously scrubbed from his website.

The issue isn't Wright's flaws and beliefs, its Obama's flaws and his beliefs.

What does it say about OBAMA that he was a member of this church for 20 years, considers Wright a close personal advisor, and gave him a position? What does it say about him that he won't leave the church, even now?

What does it say about Obama that he at first denied knowing that Wright routinely make America-hating sermons, but later admitted it?

This isn't about race relations at all. Poor race relations might explain some of Wrights venom, but that hardly justifies Obama's involvement. Instead we have Obama playing the race card to justify his own poor behavior.

I just watch Chris Mattrews Show today. Dam does he tuck obama to bed at night

re: #163 The Shadow Do

Obama won't disown the SOB who said "God Damn America"

If I say anymore I will be banned from this blog

re: #145 looking closely

Are you sure he wasn't using a teleprompter?

His head was in constant motion from left to right. He never looked down. I know nothing about the placement of it/them. Is that possible?

re: #169 vagabond trader

my take is that the Obama is an angry man, conflicted by his self image of being niether fish or fowl. He desires to belong,so he IDs with his black half, helped along by the gentle ministry of pastor Wright.He kicks Wright to the curb, he fears losing that blackness connection. Hence the churlish mention of his white Granny, the denial of the true nature of his mentor/uncle. A very scary, complex individual.

And he wants us all to be angry. He talks calmly, but there is a lot of anger underneath, and he wants us to bring out our anger, our anger at the system that is keeping the brothers down, that is keeping the workers down.
Channel our anger and use it to elect him to bring everything down.
Yes, use your anger. Use the dark side of the force. Darth Obama can help lead you.

re: #155 bunker buster

I did not hear them here or there
I did not hear them anywhere
I did not hear Wright say "God d**n"
I did not hear it, Sam I am!

I am not a racist pig,
I'm also not a white-nosed prig,
The Reverend gives the Power a dig,
If you don't like it, suck a fig.

/translated from the Obamish

Searing? Nuanced, Gut-wrenching?, Loyal, and deeply, deeply Christian?

Almost sounds like Mr. Sullivan heard Obama serve up the Meaty Chili of Sincerity.

What I got out of it, it was more like the Thin Gruel of Perdition.

re: #138 vagabond trader

Lib Christians are superior in their beliefs and their Christianity is about social gospel and all.If Jesus is ever mentioned he is portrayed as a proper black activist who hates white Europeans. Or some such dreck.

Yes - and - Conservative Christians are just hate-filled knuckle dragging Neanderthals poised to take over our government with ... THEOCRACY!

Glad to know that left-wingers aren't raging hypocrites and fear mongers.
/

McCain 08!

re: #156 Kosh's Shadow

For those lizards away from their computers earlier today, here's my take on the speech. I suspect you'll agree with me more than Sullivan:

My take on the speech:

I think that it was a great speech.
A great speech, a terrifying speech.
He believes in all of Wright's hateful rhetoric. He just says it better. Calmly, not ranting.
He's just saying we all have someone to hate. Blacks hate whites for keeping them down. Whites hate the corporations for sending jobs overseas.
He can unite us, unite us in hatred of the system; hatred of America.
He did say, G-d damn America, if you listened carefully enough.
He just hid it really well.

He played a whole deck of race cards while saying we shouldn't.

He's a wolf in sheep's clothing, a silver-tongued orator you don't realize is orating, wrapping his audience around his little finger - if you don't think.
And his delivery makes it harder to think. I had to keep my mind going to keep from being hypnotized.
Obama believers had no chance.

Yes, he wants change – a revolution, really. His complete slogan is
“Yes, we can stick it to the Man!”

He's dangerous.

I second that. I hope I remembered to first it on the other thread.

searing, nuanced, gut-wrenching

Sounds like a bad chinese meal

re: #153 Fenway_Nation

my astute other half pointed this out the other day. A Sox fan as well.

re: #158 infidelia

He did reference his white heritage repeatedly today, so not sure that's "totally" identifying with his minority aspect.

He is trying to unify based on the fact that he is not made up entirely of one mindset. And that in his heritage and history most Americans will find something they identify with.

Not that they'll agree with everything, not that they won't disagree loudly with parts of his heritage, but that there will be one or two aspects of him in which they see themselves.

He's trying to get this to run in parallel with how people see themselves as Americans. They'll love parts of it, disagree with other aspects, but in the end be loyal to the flag.

The more citizens that can see part of themselves in him, the more people will join his movement.

Some observations on the Obama/Wright pastor issue. A lot of older blacks hold some real grudges left over from their treatment as second class or worse citizens from 1776 through the 1960's and 70's. I can understand their justifiable resentment to the treatment they received, especially in the south-east. Pastor Wright lived through all this and it has shaped his attitude towards religion and politics.
What most Americans perceived with the revelations with the selected excerpts of Wrights sermons was that he is anti-white, anti-American and considers the name America synonymous to the "US of KKKA".
What pisses off most Americans, is that Wright ignores the facts that America has done more than any nation on the planet to eliminate racism and elevate minorities races to legal superiority over majority genders and races.
The fact that audiences response to the sermons indicate a large group of the congregation is in support of Wrights sermon's would implicate the congregation collectively supports Wrights political ideology.

re: #182 Sgt.Slappy

Searing? Nuanced, Gut-wrenching?, Loyal, and deeply, deeply Christian?

Almost sounds like Mr. Sullivan heard Obama serve up the Meaty Chili of Sincerity.

What I got out of it, it was more like the Thin Gruel of Perdition.

In the future, please refrain from using "meaty" and "Mr. Sullivan" in the same sentence. Thank you.

For all those who claim Obama's speech "brought me to tears," I ask whether you want to spend the next four years weeping and wailing?

I hope Obama & Clinton shred each other's campaigns and they both bow out of the race in tattered shreds. Good riddance to bad garbage.

Obama would have had more credibility if he just came out and said it was the malt liquor talking, and not Reverend Wright.

re: #118 eastsider

He played you then. He used the word Anger for one side and Resentment for another, clearly separating the races. One is justified and one is perceived.

He did not answer any real questions, and he admitted he had lied when answering questions earlier.

He called the constitution 'stained' while standing in the city where the document was written and haggled over.

He said we do not need to re-hash the past and then proceeded to do just that, blaming all of today's ills on slavery.

And he said that if I did not vote for him, I was a racist.

/spit

re: #169 vagabond trader

Scary how?

re: #170 lawhawk

I been reading about Ayman al-Zawahir in a couple of pleases but I wait to here it in the news or from Bush

re: #147 lawhawk

That isn't what I meant.

Right now Obama has the delegate lead, and I believe he has the majority of the Dem primary popular vote too (though someone please correct me if I am wrong about the latter).

In theory (and practice), if Hilary were then to "steal" the superdelegates away from Obama who had the majority of the popular vote, there would be righteous claims of a non-Democratic, "stolen" election.

So my question is, then, is it theoretically possible for Hilary to avoid these charges by winning a majority of delegates BEFORE the superdelegates are counted.

Assuming she does not, and assuming the delegates go her way anyway, her only option to pacify the party would be to nominate Obama as her VP, something I think she would be reluctant to do, and he would be reluctant to accept (though he would, IMO be politically unwise not to take it).

re: #160 Killian Bundy

Conversely, the Sharia court found the man guilty of sex with a woman who was not his wife, and sentenced him to 12 months in a cell with a goat (time already served).

The adulterous woman was convicted of socializing with a male not her husband, and was sentenced to 432 lashes and 12 years in prison.

The crowd cheered the verdict as just and compassionate.

nuanced, gut-wrenching

Oxymoron?

Sullimoron?
Obymoron?
Demomoron?

re: #109 FrogMarch

so let me get this straight:

*If you are a left-wing politician - you can be a "Christian".

*If you are a right-wing politician -you cannot be a Christiand due to separation of church and state issues.

Great point!

re: #186 Shug

That, or some angry Democratic make-up sex.

UPDATE at 3/18/08 5:38:41 pm:

If you need something sane to read after that, check out Allahpundit and Ace of Spades.

Thanks, Charles.

I miss Allahpundit's old format.

Obama gives a speech full of

unsound and blurry

signifying nothing.

Out out

Brief candidate

and be heard no more.

(apologies to W.S. and MacBeth)

re: #177 Ojoe

You and me both Ojoe

re: #169 vagabond trader

A very scary, complex individual.

Being conflicted and unsure of oneself are not exactly desireable traits one would find in the leader of the free world.

/Jimmah C., anyone?

Just got the message.

All becomes cleeaaarrr.....

re: #203 The Shadow Do

I really really should quit posting for a while on this.

To sum up: Obama's Oral Ejaculations Leave a Good Taste In Sullivan's Mouth.

Dave Matthews compares Obama to Abe Lincoln

I think this is the kind of speech I think first graders should see, people in the last year of college should see before they go out in the world. This should be, to me, an American tract. Something that you just check in with, now and then, like reading Great Gatsby and Huckleberry Finn. Read this speech, once in a while, ladies and gentlemen. This is us. It's us with the scab ripped off. It's white people talking the way they do when they're alone with other white people, some people. It's black people talking the way they are when there's not white people around. It's an honest statement from a guy who comes from both backgrounds. We have never heard anything like this.

Chalk up another fawning Obama-fool.

re: #178 EC Marm

His head was in constant motion from left to right. He never looked down. I know nothing about the placement of it/them. Is that possible?

Not only possible, but you just gave a textbook description of their use.

The teleprompters sit off to either side of the candidate (assuming you are using the Ronald Reagan pioneered double-teleprompter setup), and reflect the transcript in a way that only the reader (candidate) can see.

What a viewer in the audience would see is the speaker constantly looking from left to right as they subsequently read their text from one or the other teleprompter. The visual effect is that the speaker is looking out over the audience.

As above, I believe this technique actually was pioneered (or at least popularized) by Ronald Reagan, who was, among other things, a trained professional performer with a good grasp of audience.

Sullivan,

any comments on The White man inventing HIV ?

For those of you buying into the idea that this speech was about race. Check your ass. It is smoking.

re: #184 experiencedtraveller

McCain 08!

McCain/Steele '08!

re: #205 mikeinmd

Just got the message.

All becomes cleeaaarrr.....

Okay, that didn't hypnotize me - it just made me carsick.

re: #201 FrogMarch

UPDATE at 3/18/08 5:38:41 pm:

Thanks, Charles.

I miss Allahpundit's old format.

Me too. Hilarious stuff during the '04 campaign.

re: #197 Racer X

Conversely, the Sharia court found the man guilty of sex with a woman who was not his wife, and sentenced him to 12 months in a cell with a goat (time already served).

That's not a punishment. It's a sex tour.

re: #208 RTLM

Dave Matthews compares Obama to Abe Lincoln

Chalk up another fawning Obama-fool.

Dave Matthews is an idiot, and he's not even an American.

re: #179 Kosh's Shadow

And he wants us all to be angry. He talks calmly, but there is a lot of anger underneath, and he wants us to bring out our anger, our anger at the system that is keeping the brothers down, that is keeping the workers down.
Channel our anger and use it to elect him to bring everything down.
Yes, use your anger. Use the dark side of the force. Darth Obama can help lead you.

LOL! Don't be mean to Darth, Kosh. He doesn't deserve to be equated with Obamasama. Heck, Barack has already seen to it that his kids are indoctrinated into the theology of the Dark Side, no racial pun intended. A man who would encourage his own daughters to become embittered, disaffected little racists at that age is not to be trusted.

re: #212 DesertSage

McCain/Steele '08!

McCain/Bolton '08

re: #196 looking closely

That isn't what I meant.

Right now Obama has the delegate lead, and I believe he has the majority of the Dem primary popular vote too (though someone please correct me if I am wrong about the latter).

In theory (and practice), if Hilary were then to "steal" the superdelegates away from Obama who had the majority of the popular vote, there would be righteous claims of a non-Democratic, "stolen" election.

So my question is, then, is it theoretically possible for Hilary to avoid these charges by winning a majority of delegates BEFORE the superdelegates are counted.

Assuming she does not, and assuming the delegates go her way anyway, her only option to pacify the party would be to nominate Obama as her VP, something I think she would be reluctant to do, and he would be reluctant to accept (though he would, IMO be politically unwise not to take it).

Mathematically, I don't think it's possible for Clinton to come out ahead with the number of delegates before the convention because the primaries aren't winner take all. She'd have to win in such dominating fashion to pick up the numbers needed.

Supers might start to shift, but they'd be like rats fleeing a sinking ship and as you point out, they'd be thwarting the popular vote lead who remains Obama to date.

re: #175 looking closely

So nobody's perfect, so what?

That doesn't explain Obama's decade long association with a racist crackpot, nor does it excuse it. Obama hasn't said he is leaving the church in question either, even though every reference to Wright was meticulously scrubbed from his website.

The issue isn't Wright's flaws and beliefs, its Obama's flaws and his beliefs.

What does it say about OBAMA that he was a member of this church for 20 years, considers Wright a close personal advisor, and gave him a position? What does it say about him that he won't leave the church, even now?

What does it say about Obama that he at first denied knowing that Wright routinely make America-hating sermons, but later admitted it?

This isn't about race relations at all. Poor race relations might explain some of Wrights venom, but that hardly justifies Obama's involvement. Instead we have Obama playing the race card to justify his own poor behavior.

Nothing will excuse his past or continuing relationship with the individual. Similarly, his lying on the topic will probably come up and make him eat crow before November.

Obama's point was that America has also had a multi-decade, and in fact, multi-century history with anger and tense race relations. What does that say about us as Americans?

re: #188 eastsider

re: #194 eastsider

Scary that he is an accomplished manipulator, special delivery for weak minded self loathing white America who are wetting themselves to prove they are not racists by supporting a racist. Got it?

There one was a writer named andy
Who thought Barry's oral skills were dandy
He said with a grin
as he wiped off his chin
that speech tasted just like Candy

re: #118 eastsider

I honestly thought it was a good speech.

Read the speech. Parse it word for word and you will see the internal inconsistencies, the red herrings, the strawman arguments, the non sequiturs.

Listen to the first hour of Dennis Prager today...he already did and spoke about it at length.

I thought it was a pathetic speech, frankly. His barrage of tu quoque arguments were too much. His false charges against the Reagan Revolution, his failure to disavow his lunatic pastor (his comments were wrong but he cannot separate himself from the man), his non sequitur appeal to his having family around the world as a basis for his supposed superior understanding of race...

re: #212 DesertSage

McCain/Steele '08!

Or J.C. Watts.

re: #151 buzzsawmonkey

As I noted on Fallback earlier today, the Obamessiah phenomenon is a disturbing negation of the separation of church and state so stoutly proclaimed by the secular left.

In point of fact, the Obam' Phenom' is a manifestation of the Church of the State.

Religon is a need of the human organism.
Try to suppress it (eg with atheism), and it comes out in other areas:
Communism, Statism, Environmentalism, and now Obamism.

re: #188 eastsider

Wow, that was a milktoast explanation of the man, if I've ever heard it.

re: #218 Cicero05

McCain/Bolton '08

Bah....white boys club isn't gonna fly this year.

re: #208 RTLM

"With malice toward none, with charity toward all."

Who said that?

re: #216 Ward Cleaver

Really? Where is Dave Matthews from?

Andrew Sullivan is, what, speech-comprehension-disabled?

Barak Hussein Obama defines Wright’s remarks:

“Instead, they expressed a profoundly distorted view of this country – a view that sees white racism as endemic, . . .”

“As such, Reverend Wright’s comments were not only wrong but divisive . . . ”

but

“I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community.”

Conclusion: Barak Hussein Obama knows that Wright is wrong, that the values he’s heard for 20 years are wrong, that the values taught to his children are wrong, but he can’t let them go, wrong, vile and racist as they are.

This is the speech for which Andrew waited?

Barak Hussein Obama equates his maternal grandmother’s utterance of racial or ethnic stereotypes (by a woman who’s daughter and 2-y.o. child were abandoned by her Kenyan husband, yet someone spent 18 years preparing him for "some of the best schools in America. . .” ) with that of a man preaching imaginary truths and hate to thousands of people, publicly, once a week for 20 years.

In all intellectual honesty, are these people and their actions comparable? Does Andrew not see the fundamental difference, and the gratitude-optional attitude of BHO?

This is the speech for which Andrew waited?

Barak Hussein Obama, after denying any Affirmative Action aspects to his candidacy, and speaking thusly:

"For the African-American community, that path means embracing the burdens of our past without becoming victims of our past."

then says:

"In the white community, the path to a more perfect union means acknowledging that what ails the African-American community does not just exist in the minds of black people; that the legacy of discrimination - and current incidents of discrimination, while less overt than in the past - are real and must be addressed. Not just with words, but with deeds – by investing in our schools and our communities; by enforcing our civil rights laws and ensuring fairness in our criminal justice system; by providing this generation with ladders of opportunity that were unavailable for previous generations."

Yes, this is a long sentence. It boils down to: Even though you should shoulder your burdens (like a 2y.o. child?) and not be a victim, you're really still a victim (it isn't just in your mind, there are incidents, even though the view that white racism is endemic is a distortion . . .), so go ahead and expect entitlements.

This is the speech for which Andrew waited?

Did Andrew understand any of the ideas expressed by the sentences spoken?

Perhaps some remedial journalistic training speech and reading comprehension retraining is are needed.

re: #216 Ward Cleaver

Dave Matthews is an idiot, and he's not even an American.

Chris Matthews, not Dave.

re: #225 looking closely

Religon is a need of the human organism.
Try to suppress it (eg with atheism), and it comes out in other areas:
Communism, Statism, Environmentalism, and now Obamism.

Sully's gone from Onanism to Obamism.

re: #229 rappmandu

Really? Where is Dave Matthews from?

I think he's from South Africa.

re: #224 Ward Cleaver

Or J.C. Watts.

Yes!

re: #224 Ward Cleaver

Or J.C. Watts.

My leg is tingling

re: #216 Ward Cleaver

Dave Matthews is an idiot, and he's not even an American.

Uh, guys... DAVE Matthews or CHRIS Matthews? Singer or "journalist"?

re: #234 Ward Cleaver

I think he's from South Africa.

Johannesburg.

re: #188 eastsider

He did reference his white heritage repeatedly today, so not sure that's "totally" identifying with his minority aspect.

He is trying to unify based on the fact that he is not made up entirely of one mindset. And that in his heritage and history most Americans will find something they identify with.

Not that they'll agree with everything, not that they won't disagree loudly with parts of his heritage, but that there will be one or two aspects of him in which they see themselves.

He's trying to get this to run in parallel with how people see themselves as Americans. They'll love parts of it, disagree with other aspects, but in the end be loyal to the flag.

The more citizens that can see part of themselves in him, the more people will join his movement.

Sorry, I don't see anything in this speech tht will encourage Obama supports to be "loyal to the flag" in the end, unless it's the flag of Kenya, maybe. I just do not see any evidence that this man's intent is to reconcile racial conflicts except in terms of unifying all disaffected people of color against whites, Jews, and America in general.

Instead, they expressed a
profoundly distorted view of this country -- a view that sees white
racism as endemic, and that elevates what is wrong with America above
all that we know is right with America; a view that sees the conflicts
in the Middle East as rooted primarily in the actions of stalwart
allies like Israel, instead of emanating from the perverse and hateful
ideologies of radical Islam.

Those are Obama's words from the speech (or at least the transcription I read). Seems pretty reasonable.

Obama delivered a politically brilliant speech. He assuaged fears. He played the fence perfectly. He denied nothing, while confirming everything, but it was so deft that many will go to bed at night reassured, after a moment of doubt, that He is the real Messiah. But it's clear that Obama not only subscribes to Wright's belief system, but is a lier. He's the consummate smooth-talking politico, but one with a more radical worldview than just about any other "mainstream" politician. This man is dangerous, and Obamamania is a form of mass psychosis.

More on Wright:

[Link: www.abcnews.go.com...]

Dave Matthews?

I thought it was Chris Matthews who compared Obama to Lincoln?

re: #237 ThinkPiece

Uh, guys... DAVE Matthews or CHRIS Matthews? Singer or "journalist"?

I know Chrissie likes him, I figure Dave does, too.

re: #243 DesertSage

Dave Matthews?

I thought it was Chris Matthews who compared Obama to Lincoln?

You're right, I got swept up there. Dave Matthews is a moonbat, however.

re: #239 song_and_dance_man

Cynical of OHB to stand before flags now, after pointedly not wearing one on his lapel.

I am not fooled.

2008: A Race Odyssey

hussein's race baiting scheme is marketed to guilt laden libs and people w/ the victim mentality. he's alot like john edwards w/ his 2 americas hoax. they are ultimately trouble makers for their own personal gain. these are evil people who are after money and power and destroying our country w/ their ill conceived dangerous ideas.

Sullivan,
Please removes Mr. Obama's member from your mouth. It is unbecoming and did I mention not in keeping with most journalistic standards. Besides that, his wife needs something to be proud of this week.

Of course Sullivan liked the speech. He and his ilk, through the courtesy of Jeremiah Wright, have now been exonerated for causing AIDS.

re: #240 infidelia

Sorry, I don't see anything in this speech tht will encourage Obama supports to be "loyal to the flag" in the end, unless it's the flag of Kenya, maybe. I just do not see any evidence that this man's intent is to reconcile racial conflicts except in terms of unifying all disaffected people of color against whites, Jews, and America in general.

He's partially white? Is he unifying disaffected people of color against half of his own heritage?

In the end, then, what is called for is nothing more, and nothing less, than what all the world’s great religions demand – that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us.

Barack Obama

Can anyone give me chapter and verse in the koran for that?

Dave Hussein Matthews

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re: #241 Dreadnaught

Those are Obama's words from the speech (or at least the transcription I read). Seems pretty reasonable.

That's the part that I thought would get him in trouble with his base.

re: #236 Shug

My leg is tingling

Stop it!

Maybe it's RLS.

re: #247 Ojoe

BOH, OHB, BHO,

who cares

re: #255 rappmandu

Dave Hussein Matthews

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LMAO!

re: #245 Ward Cleaver

You're right, I got swept up there. Dave Matthews is a moonbat, however.

*Entertainer* and *moonbat* are usually interchangeable terms, aren't they?

According to the Weekly Standard, Obama doesn't do too well without his trusty teleprompter.

re: #257 Ward Cleaver

or P

re: #237 ThinkPiece

Uh, guys... DAVE Matthews or CHRIS Matthews? Singer or "journalist"?

The article linked says Chris Matthews. Dave Matthews, the singer from South Africa, may be an idiot, but not even in the same ballpark as Matthews. They're not even in the same sport. Chris takes his idiocy to a whole different level.

re: #248 Kreuzueber Halbmond

2008: A Race Odyssey

and Obama is Hal

re: #247 Ojoe

OK, I'm totally confused now. First the Chris/Dave Matthews thing....

....but who the hell is OHB?

re: #220 eastsider

Nothing will excuse his past or continuing relationship with the individual. Similarly, his lying on the topic will probably come up and make him eat crow before November.

Obama's point was that America has also had a multi-decade, and in fact, multi-century history with anger and tense race relations. What does that say about us as Americans?

We were aware of anger and tenseness when it came to race before today.

re: #239 song_and_dance_man

The best thing about Hussein's speech were all the flags behind him.

Oh was it flags? I don't think Sullivan saw the picture, and he may have heard it not quite correctly!

Oh to sit at the master's feet and have him explain how racist I am, and I didn't even know it!

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