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Barack 'Double Standard' Obama

Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 8:13:57 am PDT

The first presidential candidate to call loudly and unforgivingly for Don Imus to be fired after his infamous “nappy headed hos” remark was—get ready for a shock—Barack Obama: Before Wright Firestorm, Obama Called for Imus Firing.

Barack Obama had been a presidential candidate for more than a year before he outright repudiated his long-time pastor for racially charged, anti-U.S. sermons. But when talk show host Don Imus was in hot water 11 months ago for racially insensitive comments, Obama was the first candidate to call for his firing.

When asked about the different responses to his pastor and to Imus, Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor questioned the premise of the comparison and defended Obama’s response in each case. “He spoke out both times, so it’s entirely consistent,” he told FOXNews.com Tuesday.

Obama — who in a major speech Tuesday decried controversial remarks by the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr. dating back to 2001 — called for Imus to be fired just one week after Imus made the remarks in April 2007, two months after Obama had announced his candidacy.

“There’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude,” Obama told ABC News in an April 11 interview. ...

Obama said in the 2007 ABC interview he would never appear again on Imus’ show.

“He didn’t just cross the line,” Obama said. “He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America.”

(Hat tip: cblesz.)

Also see:
PunditGuy - Obama Speech, Day 2 - The Hypocrite

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1 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:14:52am

I love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning.

2 NoSubmission  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:15:55am

Hope/Change & Fluffy speeches my @ss.

Enough of his one-way oratories.
Let's get Obama seated for some tough questions.

3 Lively  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:15:56am

Thank you for putting this on the front page.

Grandma's racial remarks hurt me bad. Rev. Wright's racial remarks...he don't mean no harm.

4 EC Marm  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:16:09am

Throw granny under the bus!

5 Black George Bush  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:16:16am

Forgiveness for me, but not for thee Don Imus.

6 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:16:27am

Take about Hypocrisy, Hilliary is talking about voting rights in Michigan and Florida? Hum, which party screwed that one up?

7 Lively  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:16:53am

Don't forget his quote on Imus. He's got to go.

But Uncle Wright....he's just silly.

8 rabidsquirrel  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:17:34am
“He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America.”

And we all know how you eschew stereotypes, unless of course, they're targeted against "the white devil" and spewed from the mouth of the vile Jeremiah Wright Jr.

9 NoSubmission  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:17:38am

We've got a tanking economy, a war going on and terror at our throats. Meanwhile Obama is still writhing around in the dirt over his disgusting Pastor.

10 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:17:59am

Why are we surprised. He is a donk. He is allowed to talk out of both sides of his mouth.

11 EC Marm  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:18:01am

re: #2 NoSubmission


Let's get Obama seated for some tough questions.


"Come on guys, I just answered, like, eight questions."
Barack Obama

Quota system?

12 Lively  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:18:14am
“He didn’t just cross the line,” Obama said. “He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America.”

What'd they learn in Sunday School?

13 Carl in Jerusalem  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:19:35am

Good Morning Charles!

At this point, I think Republicans should be doing everything they can to encourage the dhimmirats to tear themselves apart at a hung convention.

On Israel Radio's international hour they said today that if Obama can't disown his racist pastor, he can't be President of the United States. Spot-on!

14 slotgun  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:19:45am

What goes around, eh, Mr. O? That one's gonna leave a mark.

15 THX-42  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:19:49am

Unfortunately for Obama, there are now lots of "happy-headed NO's" out here now who will no longer swoon or faint in his presence.

16 Lively  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:20:16am

When the news reporters were buying up the Rev's DVD sermon collections, Pastor was laughing all the way to the bank. Now, he's paying the man.

17 vapig  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:20:17am

I hope he gets no more passes. I want this to follow him around like stink on skunk!

18 ayatollah ghilmeini  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:20:49am

at least he is consistent!

consistently inconsistent

A natural leader the like of which I have not seen before.

19 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:21:29am

But blacks can't be racist, only whites.
/any racist black

20 Lively  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:21:39am

re: #17 vapig

I hope he gets no more passes. I want this to follow him around like stink on skunk!


AP is already writing him hall passes. Where is the Republican leadership in all this. They should be out speaking to this.

21 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:21:58am

re: #17 vapig

I hope he gets no more passes. I want this to follow him around like stink on skunk!


You're comparing Barack Obama to a skunk? A black animal with white markings? You're a racist!
/

22 Lively  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:22:17am

Never interrupt a Democrat when he is making a mistake.

23 coquimbojoe  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:22:59am

To the left, there are no 'double standards'. That is a construct for the Bourgeoisie right.

24 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:23:01am

re: #22 Lively

Never interrupt a Democrat when he is making a mistake.

I guess we can't interrupt Dhimmicrats at all, then.

25 Teacake!  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:23:05am

Its about race when it suits him - as in this is historic for a black man, and complains others make it about race when it doesn't suit him.

What concerns me about his associations with lunatics is how much influence they would have with his permission should he win this circus.

26 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:23:11am

re: #20 Lively

Yeah, it looks like the press is going to give him a pass. McCain is too nice to hammer Obama on this. Now that I think of it Obama is going slaughter McCain in debates.

27 VegasRick  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:23:17am

“There’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude,” Obama told ABC News in an April 11 interview. ...

...And the hits just keep on comin'
This guy is gonna need a time machine to win this election

28 strandedsf  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:23:33am

I don't think it's McCain's or the RNC's responsibility to hammer Obama. The subject is too dicey. I think the Republican 527s will take care of it very well. I can't wait for the ads...I already have some good ideas myself, so I can't imagine what the pro's are going to come up with.

29 Vergeltung  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:23:47am

nothing like a heaping dose of hypocrisy in the morning, sprinkled with a bit of double-standard, and cooked in the bowl of PC.

30 Old Buick Tanker  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:23:53am

“He didn’t just cross the line,” Obama said.

Never forget, that for liberals it's a one-way line: perfectly fine for a liberal black (or whatever) person to spew the most vile things, but not for non liberal/black (whatever)

Thomas Sewell has it nailed -

Like the Soviet show trials during their 1930s purges, Obama's speech was not supposed to convince critics but to reassure supporters and fellow-travelers, in order to keep the "useful idiots" useful.
31 BuddyG  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:24:03am

re: #9 NoSubmission

We've got a tanking economy, a war going on and terror at our throats. Meanwhile Obama is still writhing around in the dirt over his disgusting Pastor.

Yup, lots of very important critical stuff going on in the world.
Thank goodness the MSM is covering the gubernatorial goodtime girls, (and guys if you're from NJ).

32 jbolty  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:24:05am

The untrained eye sees a double standard but the more enlightened mind sees a CHANGE in policy

33 vapig  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:24:21am

What bothers me is people are comparing his speech to Martin Luther Kings, "I Have a Dream," speech. To me, that is outright blasphemy! Just becuase he's a good orator does not mean the connection from ears to brain stops working!

34 friarstale  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:24:22am

an old Don Imus satire
uncensored
[Link: cruxy.com...]
censored
[Link: cruxy.com...]

youtube version

35 mattm  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:25:02am

OT

Despite being a college student I have not seen any anti-war types so far today, above the usual.

36 NoSubmission  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:25:13am

Anyone watch Frank Luntz talk about Obama and his racist preacher on H&C last night? I've never seen him so fired up before.

37 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:25:21am

I put this in the spin-off links, but I think it's good enough to put here, too, for those who don't look at the links. Here is Thomas Sowell's column on the speech:
[Link: jewishworldreview.com...]

My personal favorite two paragraphs from the column:

Accordingly, Obama's Philadelphia speech — a theatrical masterpiece — will probably reassure most Democrats and some other Obama supporters. They will undoubtedly say that we should now "move on," even though many Democrats have still not yet moved on from George W. Bush's 2000 election victory.


Like the Soviet show trials during their 1930s purges, Obama's speech was not supposed to convince critics but to reassure supporters and fellow-travelers, in order to keep the "useful idiots" useful.

38 Dirk Diggler  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:25:43am

The chickens are coming home to roost.

39 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:25:57am

"With malice toward none, with charity toward all."


Obama who said that?

40 Old Buick Tanker  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:26:10am

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Yeah, it looks like the press is going to give him a pass. McCain is too nice to hammer Obama on this. Now that I think of it Obama is going slaughter McCain in debates.

Sadly, this reminds me of Bill Clinton vs. Bush Sr...IIRC, the election was Bush's to lose, which he did rather nicely.

Friggen' gutless republicans...

41 3 wood  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:26:56am
He didn’t just cross the line,” Obama said. “He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America.”

The chickens are coming home to roost.

42 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:27:08am

re: #5 Black George Bush

Forgiveness for me, but not for thee Don Imus.

Hey BGB. I hope the the whole thing with Obama, Wright, and his comments hasn't made you feel uncomfortable here. It made me think of you yesterday, and wonder how you felt.

43 jcm  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:27:16am

On the weekend shows B. Hussein said he never heard Wright say those things.

Yesterday B. Hussein he heard those things, but disagreed with them.

On the weekend shows B. Hussein said if he heard Wright say those things he would have confronted Wright.

Yesterday B. Hussein said Wright was justified due the history of racism for saying those things.

Which is it?
*i'm soooooo confused*

44 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:27:21am

re: #38 Dirk Diggler

The chickens are coming home to roost.


He's got enough chickens to make a large bucket of extra-crispy.

45 jbolty  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:27:25am

Obama saying he did not know about Wright's statements holds just as true as Hillary saying she did not know Bill was cheating.

46 VegasRick  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:27:32am

re: #39 Ojoe

"With malice toward none, with charity toward all."


Obama who said that?

Granny? Oh wait, that can't be right. Granny was a racist.

47 Vergeltung  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:27:45am

it's such a wierd juxtaposition; watching the John Adams stuff on HBO, and trying to absorb current events. makes one a bit whacky, me thinks.

48 Lively  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:28:00am

re: #33 vapig

What bothers me is people are comparing his speech to Martin Luther Kings, "I Have a Dream," speech. To me, that is outright blasphemy! Just becuase he's a good orator does not mean the connection from ears to brain stops working!

Jeff Jacoby says today:

"The problem for Obama is that Wright, the spiritual leader he has so long embraced, is a devotee not of King, - who in that same speech warned against "drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred" - but of the poisonous hatemonger Louis Farrakhan, whom the church's magazine honored with a lifetime achievement award."

49 AuldTrafford  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:28:04am

re: #28 strandedsf

I don't think it's McCain's or the RNC's responsibility to hammer Obama. The subject is too dicey. I think the Republican 527s will take care of it very well. I can't wait for the ads...I already have some good ideas myself, so I can't imagine what the pro's are going to come up with.

I disagree. When our enemies' leaders engage in duplicitous conduct, we're going to respond with our PACs? He's the candidate; it is his responsibility to point out the flaws on the other side.

50 crown_of_feathers  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:28:06am

Someone should have said to Obama, back when he supprted sacking Imus:

"I can no more disown him than I can disown the white community"

51 abolitionist  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:28:11am

I'm so tired, I feel like a little nappy. Ho ho ho.

/Santa, before Shaprton/Jackson/Obama awareness week

52 arcatan  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:28:16am

As I was listening to Liberal talk radio this morning they were making a big issue of words taken out of context. Yet these are the same people who took Imus' words out of context without a second thought.

Make no mistake, they really have no principles - they will say anything to validate their own presumptions and prejudices. Which is why they extol this rather tepid speech.

Yet, the Emperor has no clothes - despite his reputation for verbal finery, Obamas message is vacuous, preaching easy platitudes to his loyal choir.

53 strandedsf  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:28:44am

And by the way, on this fifth anniversary of the war, I want to say God bless America and God bless our troops.

Unlike Obama, I have articulated these sentiments -- and proudly flown the US flag -- even when it was not politically convenient for me (i.e. when living in a moonbat neighborhood in San Francisco).

I pray that voters see through this colossal fraud before it is too late.

54 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:29:03am

re: #39 Ojoe

"With malice toward none, with charity toward all."


Obama who said that?

Abraham Lincoln, who also said "If you are a racist, I will attack you with the North." Michael Scott, from "Diversity Day" on The Office.

55 bill-tb  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:29:20am

Obama == Socialism tied with a racist bow. It all makes sense now.

56 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:29:28am

How is it that he needed so many years to finally disown Wright (if you can call it that), and yet we're supposed to believe that Obama is a leader with leadership qualities? He's flunked the leadership test on something as simple as denouncing his racist and hate-mongering religious leader and spiritual adviser for the past two decades.

Yet, he jumps ugly on Don Imus just a week after he makes that statement? Figures. It's called jumping on a bandwagon to burnish credentials.

57 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:29:37am

What Imus said was just flat-out stupid, and unfair to those kids at Rutgers. He should have just apologized, and retired after that. It's not like the guy needs the money.

58 vero  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:29:45am

Obama's Grandma got ran over by Obama
talking about his politics on tv
You can say there's no such thing as an Asshat,
But as for me and the Lizards, we believe.

he’s been drinkin' too much coolaid
And we'd knew just where he go.
so when he slammed dear ‘ole Grandma
his true character stole the show


that darn "grandma got ran over by a raindeer" song has been stuck in my head since yesterday - have no ideal where that came from

59 Lively  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:29:51am

re: #43 jcm

On the weekend shows B. Hussein said he never heard Wright say those things.

Yesterday B. Hussein he heard those things, but disagreed with them.

On the weekend shows B. Hussein said if he heard Wright say those things he would have confronted Wright.

Yesterday B. Hussein said Wright was justified due the history of racism for saying those things.

Which is it?
*i'm soooooo confused*

Michelle says, "Yeah, he never listens to me either."

60 karmic_inquisitor  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:30:31am

Obama isn't a hypocrite - he is a brilliant man who produces highly nuanced and intellectually supple statements that only the racially enlightened elite can understand. Appearances of hypocrisy are really complex constructions of nuance that you don't understand.

/MSM

61 arcatan  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:30:40am

re: #51 abolitionist

I'm so tired, I feel like a little nappy. Ho ho ho.

/Santa, before Shaprton/Jackson/Obama awareness week

I went to the garden store and asked the clerk if they had a bladed garden tool with a brillo, or scrubber type head. He said "Oh sure, you're looking for a nappy headed hoe."

62 NoSubmission  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:31:07am

Video from last night's H&C.

63 brent  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:31:12am

I suddenly feel less dirrty (like Christina) for voting Hillary... I see her hands all over this, and I think thru whatever legion of flying monkeys she has at her back and call, they'll keep this kind of Barack business front and center.

You go, girl?

64 coquimbojoe  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:31:29am

re: #43 jcm


*i'm soooooo confused*

Now the Democrats got you where they want you. Vote Obama!

65 arcatan  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:31:48am

re: #55 bill-tb

Obama == Socialism tied with a racist bow. It all makes sense now.

It's all part of The Leftist Revolution ... anything that hates white males and capitalism is welcome in The Revolution.

66 mattm  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:31:58am

From the WaPo on today's moonbat protests:

About 9 a.m., one black-clad group of eight sat down in the intersection at 17th and L streets NW, roping themselves together with rubber tubing and blocking traffic. Police were using boltcutters and other tools to separate them from each other and make arrests. The intersection was closed to traffic until shortly after 10 a.m. At that point, the protesters began marching east on L Street.

8 Protesters sat down in a street, stop the presses! 8 measly protesters and 20 at the IRS. Kinda sad it seems.

67 Vergeltung  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:32:01am

re: #63 brent

this does indeed small of Clinton, Inc., but, in a good way. :)

68 Vergeltung  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:32:19am

re: #67 Vergeltung

*smell

69 Nevergiveup  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:32:37am

Just curious, when Obama campaigns today will he still be surrounded by 8, yes count them 8, American Flags?

70 coquimbojoe  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:32:49am

re: #68 Vergeltung

*smell

stink

71 crown_of_feathers  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:32:56am

re: #63 brent

"I suddenly feel less dirrty (like Christina) for voting Hillary..."

All of the choices are crappy this year. Might as well vote for one crappy choice as another.

72 EC Marm  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:32:57am

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Now that I think of it Obama is going slaughter McCain in debates.


You never can tell until you see them side by side. I thought that the debate between the wooden Al Gore and Jack Kemp would be a bloodbath for Gore. It ended up being just the opposite.
Obama did well because his speech was well rehearsed and he used the teleprompter to perfection. Also, NO FREKIN QUESTIONS! He won't have that option in live debates. Don't forget he looked pretty crappy in that interview with the major a couple of days ago.

73 CIA Reject  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:33:06am

re: #22 Lively

Never interrupt a Democrat when he is making a mistake.

I think it is quite ironic that the man who popularized that idea with the quote "never interrupt an enemy when he is in the process of committing suicide" was himself a Democrat- President Harry S. Truman.

Of course Truman would be run out of the post-1968 Democrat Party on a rail, but that's beside the point.

74 Izzy Dunne  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:33:14am

He spoke out both times,


The hell you say.


He didn't "speak out" about Jerry Wright's crap until it was plainly obvious that he was getting hammered for not doing it.

75 brent  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:33:21am

back and call? PIMF.

76 jcm  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:33:39am

re: #64 coquimbojoe

Now the Democrats got you where they want you. Vote Obama!

O-ba-ma O-ba-ma O-ba-ma O-ba-ma O-ba-ma O-ba-ma

Ohhhhh I feel faint.

Throw me a bottle of water!

/

77 StinkHammer  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:34:04am

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Yeah, it looks like the press is going to give him a pass.

Their agenda (i.e., getting a Democrat elected) proscribes their behavior, so of course the dominant liberal media will sweep Obama's shortcomings under the rug.

However, the Internet is all abuzz dissecting The Speech That Shook The World and removing the shiny gilding; in cyber-space, there's rampant critical analysis underway. I suppose this episode will prove a grand testing ground as to how influential the "alternative media" actually is.

78 coquimbojoe  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:34:15am

re: #76 jcm

O-ba-ma O-ba-ma O-ba-ma O-ba-ma O-ba-ma O-ba-ma

Ohhhhh I feel faint.

Throw me a bottle of water!

/

You, probably just didn't eat lunch......

79 Crashnburn  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:34:35am

re: #20 Lively

Me thinks the GOP is quietly working these things so the Dems are forced into a brokered convention that gets Hillary nominated. This will alienate the African-Americans and thereby deny the Democrats that voting block.

As an overall strategy the loss of that voting block could actually turn this election into a GOP rout. Unlikely? Maybe....

80 ergo sum  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:34:47am

I am shocked...just shocked that you racists do not get it! Blacks CANNOT be racist! The "N" word is the WORST word in the English language....unless a black person says it, then "Right on, Bro"! Ho? B*tch? What color are you? Whitey...fire his cracker ass....African American...."ain't that the truth N'word...high five me"

White = Racist....no discussion!
Black = Oppressed person incapable of racism, NEVER given opportunity, thus always given benefit of the doubt!

I hope this explanation has been instructive.

Obama is not a hypocrit, he is a victim!
/sarc

81 MJ  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:35:30am

The New York Times called Obama a "Profile in Courage" this morning.
Yeah, right. The lying scum sits in that Church for 20 years never once confronting his racist, antisemitic pastor then only criticizes him when he has to but for the Times he is is a Profile in Courage.

82 ethanxxx  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:35:37am

There once was a man named Obama
His wife's name I think was Tawana
But he had many names
And one was Hussein
Acted more like his Dad than his Mama

How about that? I'm a poet and didn't... realize it.

83 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:35:44am

Sadly, I don't think this will hurt Obama at all. I think he will win the nomination and the presidency. He knows this. All he has to do is survive 8 months. The GOP won't do anything and we all know the MSM won't either.

Am I wrong?

84 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:36:46am

re: #72 EC Marm

The candidates generally know the questions ahead of time and Obama will have preprepared mini-speeches planned. I was very unimpressed with McCain in the Republican debates and standing next to Obama I think he's going to look really bad. Remember these debates are not about content; they're about snappy one liners, who has the nicer tie, etc.

85 Rancher  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:36:51am

re: #83 Jetpilot1101
No.

86 IgofAntioch  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:37:12am

What I would like to say to Obama:
"I won't insult your intelligence by suggesting that you really believe what you just said." -WFBuckley

87 sven10077  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:37:15am

re: Barry O'Bama

“He didn’t just cross the line,” Obama said. “He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America.”


Yeah Barry you seemed real fired up about Imus' bile on "nappy headed hos" but let me ask you why not repudiate Wright who says that whites engineered AIDS to "use as a weapon of genocide against people of color"....my one young son gets to deal with the impact and blowback of that line of bile?

cue moonbat theme:

"Well Sven, that's different that is "heated criticism"."

Yeah barry it always IS different to your ilk.

88 3 wood  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:37:25am

I am proud of my country, where we can call a racist out for being a racist, regardless of their ethicity.

I sure would not tolerate this junk from a white pastor. I find it insulting for some apologists of Wright to say we have to understand the context of Wright's anger, as I heard by some last night on TV.

Oh really? In what context is outright racism acceptable?

89 jcm  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:37:49am

re: #66 mattm

From the WaPo on today's moonbat protests:

8 Protesters sat down in a street, stop the presses! 8 measly protesters and 20 at the IRS. Kinda sad it seems.

Time for this thing.

90 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:38:34am

re: #83 Jetpilot1101


Am I wrong?


No. The general election is still open but it's very possible that he will win.

91 EC Marm  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:38:38am

When your reverend's a racist
and Fox News makes a fuss,
deflect, ramble on, point the finger
then toss granny under the bus

92 Lively  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:38:46am

Obama gets the Best of Both Worlds.

You get the limo out front
Hottest styles, every shoe, every color

Yeah, when you're famous it can be kinda fun
It's really you but no one ever discovers

In some ways you're just like all your friends
But on stage you're a star

/apologies to Hanna Montana fans

93 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:38:48am

re: #83 Jetpilot1101

Obama is toast, he has everyone who loves the USA sorta pissed at him now.

And that's a majority.

94 Paul Green  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:38:49am

re: #38 Dirk Diggler

For those who came in late, be it noted that "America's chickens are coming home to roost" is exactly what another black hatemonger said after JFK was shot: to wit, Malcolm X.

Let this affair make a condign end to white guilt and the undeserved deference accorded to black demagogues.

95 xtraBilly  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:39:04am

Obama ignored the Imus flap for a while. But seems he was finally forced to take a stand.

96 VegasRick  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:39:47am

re: #83 Jetpilot1101

Sadly, I don't think this will hurt Obama at all. I think he will win the nomination and the presidency. He knows this. All he has to do is survive 8 months. The GOP won't do anything and we all know the MSM won't either.

Am I wrong?

Yes.

97 StinkHammer  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:40:14am

re: #74 Izzy Dunne

He didn't "speak out" about Jerry Wright's crap until it was plainly obvious that he was getting hammered for not doing it.

I particularly liked this snippet from Apollo's analysis of The Speech over at Snarky Bastards:

Obama really is having it both ways here. He’s a cafeteria theologian, picking the parts of Wright’s message he likes and denouncing the parts voters dislike, and expecting us to give him credit for the former and ignore the latter while embracing the man himself. Wright, meanwhile, is unapologetic about any of it.

98 Fo knee ix  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:40:25am

The MSM has again attempted to bury this flap, proclaimed Obama the reincarnation of JFK, Lincoln, et al. (see Chris Matthews), and generally refused to do their job. They think this is all in service of the imminent 'glorious revolution' where the healer Obama replaces the 'warmonger' Bush and we enter into the great pax Americana and stroll through pleasant meadows for the next 200 years..except they can't hold back Rezko, the curious timing of a $1 million earmark from Obama to his wife's employer which magically resulted in the doubling of her salary, his ultra-liberal voting record, etc. The only thing that will be faster than Obama's descent is the speed with which the MSM blames racism for his downfall. God help us.

99 turn  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:40:57am

Bus driver McCain: Cunningham uses Obama's middle name, driver opens door and throws rider under bus

Bus driver Clinton: Ferraro uses black/white comparison, driver opens door and throws rider under bus

Bus driver Obama: Wright makes racist anti-American comments, driver opens door and drops rider off at curb ... says "I'll come back and pick you back up after the election"

100 Adrenalyn  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:41:39am

and the Sacramento Bee has front page coverage gushing about his healing the nation speech yesterday
and nothing but quotes from fellow nazicrats glowing over his candidacy

as if nothing was wrong
no controversy caused him to make the speech in the first place

the media is getting more desperate each election cycle

just wait until October
they'll do a spread on some old Vietnamese prison guard
telling about what a coward John McCain was

then they'll drag out Rosa Parks' last living relatives
and tell how Obama saved his/her life

101 strandedsf  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:41:50am

re: #77 StinkHammer

Stinkhammer, I think the MSM's slavish adulation of Obama and his speech is going to have absolutely no effect on the perceptions of a vast majority of American voters. If anything, the election is going to prove how irrelevant their opinions have become in the Internet age.

As of today, Obama is slipping precipitously in the polls vis-a-vis both Hillary and McCain. That means people are getting the right message, despite Obama's suggestion that playing Wright's own words constitutes a "right-wing," racist smear campaign. People see that Obama is badly infested with fleas from having lain down with the "Reverend" Wright.

Chickensssssssssssssssssss coming home to rooooooosssssssssssst indeed.

102 lawhawk  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:41:56am

re: #95 xtraBilly

Obama ignored the Imus flap for a while. But seems he was finally forced to take a stand.

Once again, that shows his inability to take a principled stand against hatred. How exactly is he a leader if he can't get out in front of these issues?

He's leading from behind - not exactly a courageous position. He's dealing with the Wright mess now because he didn't address it for two decades prior to entering the race for the WH. He didn't confront Wright before, and he is doing so now only because others are forcing him to do so.

That's not leadership. That's indicative of a failure of leadership.

103 Alouette  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:42:07am

re: #44 BeerDrinking_VictoryMonkey

He's got enough chickens to make a large bucket of extra-crispy.

You mention fried chicken on an Obama thread? YOU RACIST!

104 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:42:14am

re: #88 3 wood

Racism is not acceptable, not from either side, not after this

Union dead at Gettysburg

105 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:42:36am
106 crown_of_feathers  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:43:03am

re: #42 Ward Cleaver

"Hey BGB. I hope the the whole thing with Obama, Wright, and his comments hasn't made you feel uncomfortable here..."

I don't know about anyone else here, but my problem with Obama doesn't have anything to do with the fact that he is black. I would certainly vote for a qualified black candidate. I would vote for Colin Powell, for example. (I don't remember any overriding objections to him, unless others here can refresh my memory).

107 StinkHammer  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:44:24am

re: #84 Killgore Trout

The candidates generally know the questions ahead of time and Obama will have preprepared mini-speeches planned. I was very unimpressed with McCain in the Republican debates and standing next to Obama I think he's going to look really bad. Remember these debates are not about content; they're about snappy one liners, who has the nicer tie, etc.

Slick, young, energetic, eloquent Rock Star vs. crusty, old, doddering, coot with a short temper.

I agree, the result isn't too difficult to predict.

108 SusanL  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:44:24am

As most of you know, I life in Portland, OR (moonbat central), well apparently they all bought Osamas oops Obamas mea culpa. The front page of the fish wrapper (Oregonian) has a drawing of Obama looking like the next coming, with enough platitudes to make you sick.

We are all so screwed. Rudy, oh Rudy....you were our only hope.

I sure hope all these "evangelicals" out there are happy. Rudy's too liberal, Mitt's a Mormon, Duncan who?.. All I can say is everyone better hold their nose and vote for McCain or Barry is a shoe in. Sorry to put a foot in it, but we are so hosed.

At least Hillary is honest about her dishonesty.

Susan

109 merav  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:44:49am

It's difficult to disregard Wright's comments, but I might have been able to, if it wasn't for Michelle Obama's comment about "for the first time in my adult life I'm proud of my country."

With a preacher saying "G-d damn America" at church (spiritual connection) and a spouse saying "I'm almost never proud of America" at home (emotional connection), how can I feel comfortable with Barak's personal connection/attitude towards America?

110 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:44:52am

re: #106 crown_of_feathers

Character not color.

111 ethanxxx  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:44:55am

The real issue isn't Barack Hussein Obama's relationship with his X-Pastor, it's his membership at the Trinity United Thunderdome of Raving Bigots... and their commitment to "Black Theology", as described in the writings of author James Cone:

Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him. The task of black theology is to kill Gods who do not belong to the black community ... Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal. Unless God is participating in this holy activity, we must reject his love.

Ya'... I seem to remember Jesus saying something very similar to that in the Bible. I think it was, Ben Hur: Chapter 9, verse 4, during his Sermon in the Hood.

112 GGMac  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:45:26am

re: #3 Lively

Thank you for putting this on the front page.

Grandma's racial remarks hurt me bad. Rev. Wright's racial remarks...he don't mean no harm.

It all seems to boil down to the skin colors of the "hurter" and "hurtee".

113 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:45:42am

Open thread is dead, so OT:

I am going to Arizona this weekend and am thinking of going to the Titan Missile Museum and tour the AMARG boneyard. Any other suggestions?

114 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:45:49am

re: #20 Lively

AP is already writing him hall passes. Where is the Republican leadership in all this. They should be out speaking to this.

No, no, no Lively! The GOP should stay the hell away from thid and let the Dimocrats hang themselves. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

115 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:46:18am
116 3 wood  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:46:36am

re: #104 Ojoe

Racism is not acceptable, not from either side, not after this

Union dead at Gettysburg

I have 34 ancestors that I know of who died fighting on the Union side in the Civil War. I have 3 buried at Andersonville.

I have no patience for racism from any quarter.

117 godfrey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:46:54am

This morning, French TV5 has been running loops of Wright's unhinged speechifying. You should hear the contrast between his shouting and the cool French announcers: Wright couldn't look more wacked out.

And images of Obama looking grave are interspersed throughout.

This fiasco is making Obama look like a complete moron to the very people he wants to reach out to, to restore America's "image."

Good luck, Barry. You could not look more foolish and hosed.

118 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:47:25am

OT, or maybe not. The beast is in Michigan wanting a redo! Mwahaha!

119 Shaky Louie  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:47:29am

re: #82 ethanxxx

There once was a man named Obama
His wife's name I think was Tawana...

How about that? I'm a poet and didn't... realize it.


You're a limercist!

120 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:47:37am
121 Adrenalyn  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:47:38am

re: #113 Creeping Eruption

Open thread is dead, so OT:

I am going to Arizona this weekend and am thinking of going to the Titan Missile Museum and tour the AMARG boneyard. Any other suggestions?

spring training
strip clubs

both are said to be very popular attractions this time of year

122 AuldTrafford  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:47:56am

re: #106 crown_of_feathers

"Hey BGB. I hope the the whole thing with Obama, Wright, and his comments hasn't made you feel uncomfortable here..."

I don't know about anyone else here, but my problem with Obama doesn't have anything to do with the fact that he is black. I would certainly vote for a qualified black candidate. I would vote for Colin Powell, for example. (I don't remember any overriding objections to him, unless others here can refresh my memory).

In fact, I was just reading the story of Reagan's "tear down this wall" speech. Powell led the charge trying to get Reagan to drop that part of the speech - too inflammatory. He's not Obama, but he does lean a bit far to the left for my liking.

123 StinkHammer  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:47:57am

re: #101 strandedsf

Stinkhammer, I think the MSM's slavish adulation of Obama and his speech is going to have absolutely no effect on the perceptions of a vast majority of American voters. If anything, the election is going to prove how irrelevant their opinions have become in the Internet age.

I hope your assessment is correct.

124 strandedsf  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:48:12am

re: #117 godfrey

Godfrey, thanks for letting us know what's going on in that part of the world. It gives me hope that there are still a few rational human beings in the EU.

125 godfrey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:48:13am

re: #120 ploome hineni

Sorry ploome, it's a cable feed. I don't know if it's online. I'll look.

126 phoenixgirl  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:48:13am

re: #87 sven10077

“He didn’t just cross the line,” Obama said. “He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America.”


Yeah Barry you seemed real fired up about Imus' bile on "nappy headed hos" but let me ask you why not repudiate Wright who says that whites engineered AIDS to "use as a weapon of genocide against people of color"....my one young son gets to deal with the impact and blowback of that line of bile?

cue moonbat theme:

"Well Sven, that's different that is "heated criticism"."

Yeah barry it always IS different to your ilk.

the rev should have kept it in the barber shop, oh wait is that a stereotype?

127 jcm  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:48:19am

Repost.....

One of the rotation images at the Seattle PI's front page.

128 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:48:28am

re: #121 Adrenalyn

Already doing spring training.

129 merav  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:48:46am

Guys, John McCain made a great point, IMHO, in an Israeli newspaper, regarding the rocket attacks from Gaza on Southern Israel:

IF ARIZONA WAS ATTACKED, THE US WOULD RESPOND

[Link: www.ynetnews.com...]

130 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:48:55am
131 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:49:14am

re: #22 Lively

Never interrupt a Democrat when he is making a mistake.

Your #20 post says the GOP should be speaking out on this, and two posts later you say don't interrupt when the Dimocrats are making a mistake. Which is it? (Say NEVER interrupt!)

132 godfrey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:49:36am

re: #124 strandedsf

Well, I'm sure there are plenty of Parisians who look at Obama and Wright together and roll their French eyes, puff on their acrid little cigarettes, and say, "Ouf, zees Americains, zey are all completely religious insane people."

133 Ojoe  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:49:41am

re: #116 3 wood

Wright and Obama dishonor many who should be honored.

I have to get to work; bye for now.

134 Kilroy  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:49:42am

Grandma should have left this muslim in Indonesia before he could adopt Wright as his family! Our next president,Great!

135 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:50:23am

re: #127 jcm
Any moonbat protests over there today? Got a sick kid here, so I can't go look at Memorial Park by the Chelan Co. Courthouse. That is where the huge protests(hah) over here on the dry side happen.

136 Alouette  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:50:48am

re: #106 crown_of_feathers

I would vote for Colin Powell, for example. (I don't remember any overriding objections to him, unless others here can refresh my memory).

He was assimilated by the Saud Borg (aka the State Department), the same way they removed Condi's brains and replaced them with Folger's crystals.

137 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:51:08am

re: #27 VegasRick

“There’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude,” Obama told ABC News in an April 11 interview. ...

...And the hits just keep on comin'
This guy is gonna need a time machine to win this election

/or a few Chicago voting machines.

138 Sabnen  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:51:39am

re: #96 VegasRick

Yes.

Absolutely, yes. The bloom is off the rose and the rose is starting to smell a little funny. He lost his momentum and that counts for much in love, war and politics.

Politically, he 'peaked' too early, but he had to in order to compete for the nomination; for that we can thank Hillary. I don't see how McCain can lose, with these two tearing each other up from now to August.

139 NoSubmission  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:51:48am

re: #127 jcm

Repost.....
One of the rotation images at the Seattle PI's front page.


Where did they come up with that?

140 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:52:05am

re: #29 Vergeltung

nothing like a heaping dose of hypocrisy in the morning, sprinkled with a bit of double-standard, and cooked in the bowl of PC.

Stop it Vergeltung, you're making me hungry!

141 godfrey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:52:15am

re: #130 ploome hineni

No streaming video from TV5, sorry.

142 strandedsf  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:52:16am

Godfrey, yes, it occurred to me that playing Wright's comments and juxtaposing them against Obama's flop-sweaty visage might be motivated by the simple anti-religion bigotry of the French.

However, I think even they know that there's harmlessly nutty religion and then there's...paranoid racist anti-semitic genocidal hateful religion...at least, I hope so.

143 Widow'smight  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:53:12am

re: #108 SusanL

Uh, Rudy the savior quit real early. How do you blame that on us "Evangelicals"?

Question for you. How many Republican Senators/Representatives do you suppose there would be without those pesky "Evangelicals"?

144 godfrey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:53:35am

re: #142 strandedsf

TV5 looped the "God damn America!" excerpt, and that's easy enough for even a sophisticated Frenchman to understand.

145 StinkHammer  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:53:41am

re: #108 SusanL

As most of you know, I life in Portland, OR (moonbat central), well apparently they all bought Osamas oops Obamas mea culpa. The front page of the fish wrapper (Oregonian) has a drawing of Obama looking like the next coming, with enough platitudes to make you sick.

Having lived in Portland (a.k.a Havana North) for 14 years as a youngster, your description of the predominantly leftist atmosphere there ia all-too-familiar. On a recent visit I had to gird my loins against the rampant Obamania gripping the populace -- including my quasi-in-laws. Not fun.

146 sharmutah  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:53:46am

re: #107 StinkHammer

I disagree. The American prople are smarter than that. Unless there is a terrible recession, McCain wil unabashedly trounce Obama in the General election. Regardless of what the MSM says. most people saw through the charade on Tuesday, and realized that Obama is just another far left ideologue.

147 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:53:52am

I posted this on the early morning thread, but it's probably more appropriate here.....

Obama endorsed by the New Black Panthers......on his own web site.

Will he disavow them?

148 opinionated  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:54:21am

"“He didn’t just cross the line,” Obama said.

Imus crossed the line. Hell, he went over the line. When the line is crossed there is no debate. You have done or said a terrible thing. You're only course is to apologize and hope you are forgiven. Obama was not forgiving or even open to discussion.

On the other hand, about Wright, Obama says:

"Did I know him to be an occasionally fierce critic of American domestic and foreign policy? Of course. Did I ever hear him make remarks that could be considered controversial while I sat in church?"

"Nappy Headed Ho", in a crude attempt at humor, crosses the line. It's not debatable. Even whether it was bad comedy is not debatable. It's just damnable.

But "God Damn America". It's just a (fierce) criticism. It just could be considered controversial. Which implies that those holding that view have a legitimate, even if in some places, an unpopular position.

A serious possible President of the United States believes it is debatable if America deserves damnation. Also debatable is all of the other hateful vitriol.

Got to admit, that is change.

149 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:54:47am
150 theangryamerican2008  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:55:31am

You all keep forgetting, only whites can be racist. Black "racism" is merely a response to having been oppressed by the vast white conspiracy in the first place.


blah blah blah

151 VegasRick  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:55:43am

re: #138 Sabnen

Absolutely, yes. The bloom is off the rose and the rose is starting to smell a little funny. He lost his momentum and that counts for much in love, war and politics.

Politically, he 'peaked' too early, but he had to in order to compete for the nomination; for that we can thank Hillary. I don't see how McCain can lose, with these two tearing each other up from now to August.

Agreed. And we need to keep doing our part.

152 AuldTrafford  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:55:52am

re: #146 sharmutah

I disagree. The American prople are smarter than that. Unless there is a terrible recession, McCain wil unabashedly trounce Obama in the General election. Regardless of what the MSM says. most people saw through the charade on Tuesday, and realized that Obama is just another far left ideologue.

Not so sure. I don't think the American people are all that smart - and another far left ideologue is exactly what an awful lot of them want.

153 jcm  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:55:59am

re: #135 pingjockey

A bunch in Seattle, another bunch go to the Freedom Bridge over I-5 at Ft. Lewis. Do these people have jobs? (nevermind stupid question)

154 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:56:01am

I thought it was Hillary? oh well. She gets a free pass on everything now.

155 laZardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:56:47am

re: #149 ploome hineni

I wonder where us of the "yellow churches" fit into this black-and-white arrangement.

156 cblesz  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:57:16am

I am truly getting sick to my stomach over these blowhards in the press. All the talk about what a monumental speech it was, how eloquent, amazing...blah, blah, blah.

If BHO had stood up there and said, "I hate white people, Jeremiah Wright is correct and I also hate America...that's why I refuse to wear a flag lapel pin"...his ball washers in the media would applaud him for being honest. Truly sickening.

157 opinionated  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:57:20am

re: #148 opinionated

Charles: Please try to implement an edit function. It's embarrassing when a grammatical- or other- error slips through.

158 crown_of_feathers  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:57:31am

re: #136 Alouette

"He was assimilated by the Saud Borg (aka the State Department)"

I'm thinking that, under B. Hussein's presidency, the State Department will be renamed the BDA (Bureau of Dhimmi Affairs). There will be a Saudi in charge, just to ensure that there is the proper Wahabi slant.

(Hmm...thinking about it, that wouldn't be much of a jump from the current State department.)

159 strandedsf  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:57:32am

re: #146 sharmutah

I disagree. The American prople are smarter than that. Unless there is a terrible recession, McCain wil unabashedly trounce Obama in the General election. Regardless of what the MSM says. most people saw through the charade on Tuesday, and realized that Obama is just another far left ideologue.

The thing is, even if there's a bad recession I think that will work in McCain's favor as well -- can there really be that many American voters so stupid as to believe a Democrat is going to solve our economic problems by raising taxes and spending to ever more unsustainable heights?

I envision all of us rowing like the galley slaves in Ben-Hur just to pay our taxes and energy bills, after Obama or Hillary get done wreaking their havoc.

G-d forbid.

160 Shaky Louie  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:57:42am

re: #127 jcm

Repost.....

Is that supposed to be a...burkha!?


not nice. not nice at all.

161 godfrey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:57:45am

re: #148 opinionated

Got to admit, that is change.

And I'm confident Americans will pass on that kind of change.

Speaking of change, the dollar is suffering some real hurt these days. Has any reporter asked Obama what he'd like to see done about it? Or is that too tough a question for someone expert only in platitude?

162 republic  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:58:18am

re: #146 sharmutah

I disagree. The American prople are smarter than that. Unless there is a terrible recession, McCain wil unabashedly trounce Obama in the General election. Regardless of what the MSM says. most people saw through the charade on Tuesday, and realized that Obama is just another far left ideologue.

Anyone with half a brain should have been able to figure this out about Obama years ago.

His voting record is the most left in all of Washington D.C., has been since he's been there, as well as when he was a IL State Legislator.

It took this for some people to see this?

Sheesh, this country may very well be in serious trouble.

163 cblesz  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:58:41am

It is also nice that we get lectured on racism from BHO and his pastor, spiritual advisor, mentor and leader of a church he financially supported is a huge racist...but a member of his family...

164 StinkHammer  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:58:52am

re: #146 sharmutah

I disagree. The American prople are smarter than that. Unless there is a terrible recession, McCain wil unabashedly trounce Obama in the General election. Regardless of what the MSM says. most people saw through the charade on Tuesday, and realized that Obama is just another far left ideologue.

You may be correct (and I hope you are). However, I do find myself quite often in agreement with H.L. Mencken's observation that "nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public." We shall see.

165 ethanxxx  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:59:15am

re: #147 eschew_obfuscation

Thank You. I was looking for your earlier post so I could put it here.
Is Malik Zulu Shabazz still the leader of the NBP party?

166 FrogMarch  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:59:17am

Let us not forget is was Hillary's "Media Matters" - a Stalinist mind-crime watch group - who first captured the evil Don Imus with his evil hate speech.

167 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:59:19am

re: #31 BuddyG

Yup, lots of very important critical stuff going on in the world.
Thank goodness the MSM is covering the gubernatorial goodtime girls, (and guys if you're from NJ).

BTW, turns out Client #9's favorite babe "Kristen" appeared in a few "Girls Gone Wild" videos a few years ago.

168 mean Gene  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 8:59:32am

Has Obama got a public appearance today?
I'd love to see how his supporters act now.
And this Imus story?
It needs wider distribution.
Not enough potential supporters of Obama know about it yet.

169 Black George Bush  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:00:09am

Morning all!

Charles I downloaded and installed Apples' Safari Web Browser and it is amazingly fast and smooth. The font smoothing feature give text a really nice appearance. Thanks for the browser heaven you have given me, unlike Obama, you have healed my soul with Safari :)

170 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:00:25am

re: #33 vapig

What bothers me is people are comparing his speech to Martin Luther Kings, "I Have a Dream," speech. To me, that is outright blasphemy! Just becuase he's a good orator does not mean the connection from ears to brain stops working!

Martin Luther King was a REPUBLICAN!

171 29Victor  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:00:50am

I realize that Imus made some comments that some may consider controversal, but I wasn't listening at the time, so it doesn't count.

172 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:00:58am

Leftists are the worst racists in America by far. The racism of soft (or no) expectations for blacks is even more devastating than the explicit KKK variety.

Classical liberals and conservatives tend to be "color-blind" for the most part.

Leftists are obsessed with race, to the enormous detriment of US blacks.

173 mean Gene  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:01:14am

re: #171 29Victor

Ditto.

174 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:01:29am

This is on topic I think:

UK: Whitey Must Work MUCH HARDER to Integrate Muslims

LOOK AT THE PICTURE!

HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

175 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:01:45am

re: #172 Pro-Bush Canuck

YO!

You lunching?

176 republic  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:02:03am

OT

One man who wrote a brief to the SCOTUS was just on WLS radio, saying that he believes the ruling for ,the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." will be in favor of that wording by a 7-3 or 8-2 majority, therefore striking down the D.C. gun ban down as unconstitutional.

He said that Ginsberg was making statements that were for that ruling.

Ginsberg!

Who'd have thunk.

Keep praying.

177 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:02:17am

re: #65 arcatan

It's all part of The Leftist Revolution ... anything that hates white males and capitalism is welcome in The Revolution.

You mean Obamanation's Change, not Revolution.
Same thing, actually

178 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:02:26am

re: #165 ethanxxx

Thank You. I was looking for your earlier post so I could put it here.
Is Malik Zulu Shabazz still the leader of the NBP party?

It would appear so assuming that part of this Wiki entry is not one that is disputed.

179 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:02:30am

re: #39 Ojoe

"With malice toward none, with charity toward all."


Obama who said that?

Obama Osama?

/Burp...channeling Senator Kennedy.

180 Pope Insouciance IV  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:02:45am

Well, he lost Imus' vote, that's for sure.

181 zmdavid  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:02:56am

re: #18 ayatollah ghilmeini

at least he is consistent!

consistently inconsistent

A natural leader the like of which I have not seen before.

From the article:

When asked about the different responses to his pastor and to Imus, Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor questioned the premise of the comparison and defended Obama’s response in each case. “He spoke out both times, so it’s entirely consistent,” he told FOXNews.com Tuesday.


He was consistent - self serving both times.

182 AuldTrafford  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:03:23am

re: #176 republic

OT

One man who wrote a brief to the SCOTUS was just on WLS radio, saying that he believes the ruling for ,the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed." will be in favor of that wording by a 7-3 or 8-2 majority, therefore striking down the D.C. gun ban down as unconstitutional.

He said that Ginsberg was making statements that were for that ruling.

Ginsberg!

Who'd have thunk.

Keep praying.

We're in pretty deep doo-doo if someone writing briefs to the US Supreme Court thinks there are ten justices sitting there.

183 Black George Bush  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:03:34am

re: #170 Bob in Breckenridge

What bothers me is people are comparing his speech to Martin Luther Kings, "I Have a Dream," speech. To me, that is outright blasphemy! Just becuase he's a good orator does not mean the connection from ears to brain stops working!/blockquote>

Exactally. I may as well compare my BBQ the time Jesus feed thousands with a few pieces of fish.

184 phoenixgirl  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:03:35am

re: #174 WriterMom

This is on topic I think:

UK: Whitey Must Work MUCH HARDER to Integrate Muslims

LOOK AT THE PICTURE!

HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

/if we all wore the burka, men included, then we'd all be the same and all our problems would be gone...except we'd have to do something about the eye color thing

185 29Victor  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:03:49am

Imus appologized and asked for forgiveness.

Obama said no.

186 Killgore Trout  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:03:50am

re: #174 WriterMom

heh.

187 roguejew  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:03:51am

Obama will learn the 1 Wright makes several wrongs!

188 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:03:57am

re: #40 Old Buick Tanker

Sadly, this reminds me of Bill Clinton vs. Bush Sr...IIRC, the election was Bush's to lose, which he did rather nicely.

Friggen' gutless republicans...

Not quite true. If Ross Perot was not in the race, Bush 41 would have won rather easily.

189 DrJen  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:04:39am

This whole thing is making me sick. Mr. Obama said “He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America.”

Fine. Mr. Imus is not someone young girls should be listening to in the first place. On the other hand, aren't sermons supposed to be suitable for family listening?

My two home-schooled first graders were in the room when a portion of one of those sermons played on the radio. When I realized what was being said, I turned it off, but it was a bit late...

They have now had the 'what is racism and why it is evil' speech. That was combined with the not all so-called men of G-d are deserving of the title, not all Christian pastors say these things, etc., etc.

If our rabbi said anything like that about any group or our country, we would never go back to services.

From one mixed race family member to another, "Shut-up Mr. Obama! YOU are the one who has not come to terms with his heritage. Furthermore, selling your Grandma down the river was the proverbial joke until your speech."

I have vented. Thank you, fellow Lizards.

190 lilredspeck  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:04:45am
“There’s nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude,”

In Response I'm sure it'll go something like this:

Rev. Wright was not on my staff...Nah Nah Nah...he was on my Spiritual Advisor Committee.

191 republic  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:04:46am

re: #182 AuldTrafford

We're in pretty deep doo-doo if someone writing briefs to the US Supreme Court thinks there are ten justices sitting there.


My bad!

My mistake!

7-2 or 8-1

Sorry.

:)

192 godfrey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:04:52am

Why Martin Luther King was a Republican

The National Black Republicans looks like a fine organization. They take checks.

193 Fasternu426  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:04:55am

McCain would do well to pick JC Watts as his Veep!

194 Kilroy  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:05:22am

Does anyone else see his acceptance and thus empowerment of Wright as similar to the acceptance and empowerment he would provide for the world's tyrants as president?

195 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:05:23am

Only white people can have double standards.

/

196 SusanL  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:05:33am

Thanks to the good Reverend, I will never look at black people the same way. I, like others, (I guess foolishly) always assumed that people thought the way I did. It matters who you are, not what you are. I took Dr. King's words to heart and have tried to live that way.

Apparently I am quite wrong. Based on Jeremy Wrights words, I have to assume that any black person I meet is going to automatically hate me just because I am white. If I find out that they go to this kind of church, I know they hate me.

By the way, that crap about his grandmother being afraid of black men? Well, have you see the way they act? They frighten me also and they do it on purpose.

197 ploome hineni[deleted]  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:06:03am
198 Pro-Bush Canuck  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:06:05am

re: #175 WriterMom

YO!

You lunching?

Had hoped to - on a conf call to UK in 10 min. I emailed you. Hope to be on a sane schedule in a week or so and will begin attending again.

199 reine.de.tout  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:06:17am

re: #146 sharmutah

I disagree. The American prople are smarter than that. Unless there is a terrible recession, McCain wil unabashedly trounce Obama in the General election. Regardless of what the MSM says. most people saw through the charade on Tuesday, and realized that Obama is just another far left ideologue.

I hope you are correct. However, with much of the print media (including my hometown newspaper), loudly proclaiming that "Obama Confronts Racial Divide in the U.S.", including a prominent display of a quote from Obama where he urged the nation to break "a racial stalemate we've been stuck in for years", I'm not convinced that "most" people saw through the charade. The "racial stalemate" he talks about is one at his own church, not in my church, nor in my life. I think he's got a lot of nerve lecturing me on the "racial stalemate", when what he's talking about comes from his own life. But the speech was perfect for creating confusion in people's minds as to what the real issue was supposed to be - the Reverend Wright's racism, not that of the general populace.

200 Benthoven  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:06:49am

The die is cast - Obama cannot emerge from this black hole of whitey-hatred and claim his own thoughts are otherwise - Obama's 20 years of “silent” complicity and regular monetary donations constitutes full agreement.

There's not a sane person in this country who would vote for a candidate who takes his adult lifetime of spiritual counsel from such a rabidly racist enemy of the state and its majority population for president. Operative word being, "sane".

201 laZardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:06:56am

re: #192 godfrey

Despite the person who made their 2006 cover as the "Most Powerful Woman in the World."

202 AuldTrafford  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:07:34am

re: #191 republic

Hope he's right about the vote. Wasn't so sure the Justices were still reading the Federalist Papers. Ginsburg especially.

203 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:08:03am

"From Operation Chaos Headquarters, I am Commander Rush Limbaugh"- How Rush opened his show. ROFLMAO!

204 NoSubmission  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:08:12am

Imus apologized.
Obama arrogantly demands we just deal with it because it's all our fault that Rev. Wright is a frothing bigot.

205 Alouette  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:08:52am

re: #174 WriterMom


LOOK AT THE PICTURE!

HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

Creepiest. Burka. Picture. EVER.

206 phoenixgirl  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:09:29am

re: #205 Alouette

Creepiest. Burka. Picture. EVER.

don't they wash those things?

207 turn  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:09:48am

re: #174 WriterMom

This is on topic I think:

UK: Whitey Must Work MUCH HARDER to Integrate Muslims

LOOK AT THE PICTURE!

HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

"It is this perception of being unwelcome and of discrimination rather than attachment to their country of origin that diminishes a sense of belonging in British society"

Oh really? Jeez I thought it might have something to do with their attachment to the ROP

208 ethanxxx  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:10:16am

re: #178 eschew_obfuscation

I've been following this Insane Child since the Million Man March. He brought his Army of A**holes to Durham during the early stages of the Duke Lacrosse case... Demanding justice. His entire cult of rabid animals are dying to start the Final Solution against the White Man.

209 MJ  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:10:28am

re: #204 NoSubmission

Imus apologized.
Obama arrogantly demands we just deal with it because it's all our fault that Rev. Wright is a frothing bigot.

Imus also said what he said because he thought he was being funny.

Wright said what he said ( over the course of decades ) in order to lead his congregation toward hatred.

210 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:10:40am

re: #205 Alouette
Holy shit! That is freakin' scary!

211 Alouette  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:10:48am

re: #206 phoenixgirl

don't they wash those things?

The one in the middle with the headband needs a whuppin'
Her nose is showing.

212 WriterMom  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:11:11am

re: #207 turn

There nothing more unwelcoming and diminishing than a fucking head to toe garbage sack for women.

213 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:11:58am

re: #157 opinionated

Charles: Please try to implement an edit function. It's embarrassing when a grammatical- or other- error slips through.

There is a "preview" button.

214 mattm  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:12:01am

I have just flipped thu C-SPAN and all the cable channels. Not even C-SPAN. Not one mention of any anti-war protests excpet a segment on the cost of the war on the Clinton News Network.

215 galloping granny  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:12:10am

re: #183 Black George Bush

The blasphemy is that he started out comparing himself to Lincoln - even ripped off some of Lincoln's words - and then moved on to say that the US Constitution needs to be revised. Today in his speech about the Iraq war he stated that our entire political ideology needs to be overthrown. Make no mistake - this man intends to get himself elected and then dismantle the United States of America as we know it.

216 StinkHammer  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:12:10am

re: #193 Fasternu426

McCain would do well to pick JC Watts as his Veep!

I don't see that as a prudent political move right now. In this election cycle where the notion of Identity Politics is the topical mainstay, I think it would appear too much as a gesture of tokenism: "Hey, the Democrats are offering a minority -- well, so are we!"

I certainly hope someone of racial minority status gets the nod to the Executive office (think Michael Steele or Bobby Jindal), but my perception is that it would be better to happen at a time when it would be seen less as a gimmick. When that will possibly be is anyone's guess....

217 republic  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:12:12am

A Christian Church has two, and only two objectives, if it is indeed a Christian Church, that is to preach the Word of God from the Holy Bible, and to take actions that only are prescribed in the Word of God.

Period.

Any Church that does anything outside the Word of God, is not a Christian Church.

If my Pastor started wandering off track, I, and others, would point this out, and if it continued, I, and others would leave that Church.

Every Christian has the right, and the obligation to question their Pastors message.

218 sven10077  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:12:24am

re: #193 Fasternu426

McCain would do well to pick JC Watts as his Veep!

That is an AWESOME idea.

I was thinking Steele, but Watts is more charismatic.

219 turn  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:12:25am

re: #205 Alouette

Creepiest. Burka. Picture. EVER.

Creepiest, that's an understatement ...

220 mattm  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:13:14am

re: #219 turn

Creepiest, that's an understatement ...

It is definably an understatement.

221 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:13:22am

re: #208 ethanxxx

I've been following this Insane Child since the Million Man March. He brought his Army of A**holes to Durham during the early stages of the Duke Lacrosse case... Demanding justice. His entire cult of rabid animals are dying to start the Final Solution against the White Man.

Yeah....I remember their protest there. I notice that I haven't seen any apology from them for further sullying the reputations of those innocent LaCrosse (sp?) players.....the lack of evidence is, of course, not relevent.

222 laZardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:13:28am

re: #197 ploome hineni

Interesting. And speaking of "soft racism," I managed to find a copy of Liberal Fascism. Gonna dive into it as soon as I can clear out some homework.

223 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:13:29am

Shelly O's thesis. Shelly O's rant against America. Wright's hate sermons. Obama's speech.

Yep, there's a pattern, and Clinton's campaign has a lot more evidence.

224 madisonsfriend  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:13:39am

So I crocheted against Islamic fundie terrorism last night- has Hamas. Fatah. the PLO, Islamic jihad- anyone - given up yet?

225 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:13:57am

re: #212 WriterMom
Did you see the movie someone posted here a while ago? The dude kept saying "get in the bag bitch". The feminists have given up all pretense of being for womens' rights. If they were, they'd be raising hell with the State dept. about the treatment of women in islam.

226 mean Gene  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:14:20am

God certainly does work in mysterious ways to expose all this, no?

227 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:14:27am

re: #215 galloping granny

The blasphemy is that he started out comparing himself to Lincoln - even ripped off some of Lincoln's words - and then moved on to say that the US Constitution needs to be revised. Today in his speech about the Iraq war he stated that our entire political ideology needs to be overthrown. Make no mistake - this man intends to get himself elected and then dismantle the United States of America as we know it.

Yes. From yesterday's speech, I figured out why he likes "Change"
It sounds better than "Revolution!"
He probably has a picture of Che in his office, too.

228 galloping granny  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:14:42am

re: #213 Bob in Breckenridge

There is a "preview" button.

I cannot tell you how many times everything has looked perfectly wonderful on preview and not two minutes later I realize that I truly should edit more carefully. :(

229 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:15:13am
“He didn’t just cross the line,” Obama said. “He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America.”

I'm sick to death of this guy talking like the Klan is burning crosses on his front lawn every evening.

News flash, friend: You're rich and privileged. You have a security detail. You have a top-notch education. I seriously doubt you're being assaulted with prejudice every time you step out the front door. You and your wife are self-pitying paranoiacs with an identity problem.

My father used to say "Americans can't stand a whiner." These days, I'm not so sure.

230 turn  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:15:27am

re: #212 WriterMom

There nothing more unwelcoming and diminishing than a fucking head to toe garbage sack for women.


Well then why would they wear it?

/need I?

231 madisonsfriend  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:16:15am

re: #225 pingjockey

Now, now, it is their culture. The women love to be kept in burkas, they adore FGM and of course, not driving, not being educated, and generally being 4th class citizens.

232 cblesz  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:16:15am

re: #218 sven10077

That is an AWESOME idea.

I was thinking Steele, but Watts is more charismatic.

I would prefer Bobby Jindal...

233 republic  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:16:41am

re: #202 AuldTrafford

Hope he's right about the vote. Wasn't so sure the Justices were still reading the Federalist Papers. Ginsburg especially.


He said something to the effect, that this vote was going to be more than just the typical 5-4 votes, he went right to 7-2 or 8-1.

This is positive, but the Constitution is what it is, and though they may rule in favor of we law abiding firearm owners, understanding the Constitution is not rocket science, and the framers meant it that way.

",the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."

I don't understand how any well meaning people could read that any other way.

I completely understand why people who crave power and control read other things into that.

The 2nd Amendment should be a no-brainer, and for most, it is, except for leftists, they read unicorns in fields of cotton candy into everything.

234 Athos  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:17:55am

re: #225 pingjockey

Just more examples of the moral and intellectual bankruptcy of the left.

They don't even try to hide it anymore.

235 republic  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:18:05am

Have a great day all.

:)

236 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:18:05am

re: #231 madisonsfriend
My bad. Thought NOW was for equal treatment of women, not just leftist, elitist women.

237 Shaky Louie  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:18:33am

re: #217 republic

Every Christian has the right, and the obligation to question their Pastors message.


Right! We do not become "braindead" when we walk into a church.

238 laZardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:18:50am

re: #225 pingjockey

I would venture to say yet again that the lizardettes are more truly "feminist" (i.e. for women's rights) than most "feminists" today.

239 StinkHammer  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:18:50am

re: #229 Pawn of the Oppressor

My father used to say "Americans can't stand a whiner." These days, I'm not so sure.

That's because in these days of Victimhood, many Americans are, sadly, empathetic to the whining mentality. Decades of leftist "self-esteem" indoctrination coming home to roost (so to speak).

240 TimeQuake  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:18:51am

re: #205 Alouette

That is one of the most horrible photos I've ever seen. They are non-people, the un-dead. No wonder their children are so screwed up.

241 Alouette  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:18:55am

re: #230 turn

Well then why would they wear it?

/need I?

No more bad hair days!

242 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:19:14am

re: #169 Black George Bush

Morning all!

Charles I downloaded and installed Apples' Safari Web Browser and it is amazingly fast and smooth. The font smoothing feature give text a really nice appearance. Thanks for the browser heaven you have given me, unlike Obama, you have healed my soul with Safari :)

Black George Bush is clean and articulate.

/Joe Biden

243 bulwrk  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:20:47am

I have never had a feeling politically that did not spring from the sentiments embodied in the Declaration of Independence. I have often pondered over the dangers which were incurred by the men who assembled here, and framed and adopted that Declaration of Independence. I have pondered over the toils that were endured by the officers and soldiers of the army who achieved that Independence. I have often inquired of myself, what great principle or idea it was that kept this Confederacy so long together. It was not the mere matter of the separation of the Colonies from the motherland; but that sentiment in the Declaration of Independence which gave liberty, not alone to the people of this country, but, I hope, to the world, for all future time. It was that which gave promise that in due time the weight would be lifted from the shoulders of all men. This is a sentiment embodied in the Declaration of Independence. Now, my friends, can this country be saved upon that basis? If it can, I will consider myself one of the happiest men in the world, if I can help to save it. If it cannot be saved upon that principle, it will be truly awful. But if this country cannot be saved without giving up that principle, I was about to say I would rather be assassinated on this spot than surrender it.

Abraham Lincoln
Address in Independence Hall
Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
February 22, 1861

From an unplanned speech, ole Abe just winging it.
Obama you're no Lincoln.

244 Macker  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:21:00am

re: #2 NoSubmission

Hope/Change & Fluffy speeches my @ss.

Enough of his one-way oratories.
Let's get Obama seated for some tough questions.

Careful, that'll make Obama's a** squirm. Then again, he may LIKE that....

245 turn  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:21:03am

re: #241 Alouette

No more bad hair days!

LOL

246 SusanL  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:21:12am

As long as we have the 2nd, they can't take away the 1st.

Even this SCOTUS would not be so crazy as to overturn the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution right before a general election. If they did, the republicans would win every office in a land slide.

Americans are complacent, but they aren't stupid. We know full well, the only thing keeping us from looking like Europe is the fact that the public is too well armed.

Never will I give up my guns. NEVER!

247 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:21:37am

Rush is having waaaay too much fun with this Operation Chaos stuff.
Then again, the DNC told those states not to move their primaries and they did anyway. I would like to know the thought processes of the state committees. Why did they think they could go against the Nat'l committee and not get punished. These fools can't even run their own elections and they want to run the country? Mwahahahaha!

248 chinesearithmetic  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:21:42am

I checked my disbelief. Still going.

249 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:22:13am

re: #238 laZardo
That is correct.

250 Cygnus  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:22:17am

re: #58 vero

Obama's Grandma got ran over by Obama
talking about his politics on tv
You can say there's no such thing as an Asshat,
But as for me and the Lizards, we believe.

he’s been drinkin' too much coolaid
And we'd knew just where he go.
so when he slammed dear ‘ole Grandma
his true character stole the show


that darn "grandma got ran over by a raindeer" song has been stuck in my head since yesterday - have no ideal where that came from

To cure that, look for 'Teddy, the Red-Nosed Senator' on the website for 'Twisted Tunes'. Too funny!

251 crown_of_feathers  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:22:17am

re: #205 Alouette

Looks like that one was taken from an old Ed Wood grade-z horror flick.

Plan 9 from Mecca?

252 phoenixgirl  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:22:25am

re: #246 SusanL

As long as we have the 2nd, they can't take away the 1st.

Even this SCOTUS would not be so crazy as to overturn the 2nd Amendment of the Constitution right before a general election. If they did, the republicans would win every office in a land slide.

Americans are complacent, but they aren't stupid. We know full well, the only thing keeping us from looking like Europe is the fact that the public is too well armed.

Never will I give up my guns. NEVER!

/you mean you didn't turn your guns in for toys in the 90's?

253 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:22:26am

re: #182 AuldTrafford

We're in pretty deep doo-doo if someone writing briefs to the US Supreme Court thinks there are ten justices sitting there.

/Scalia is so smart he counts as two.

254 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:23:25am
255 Macker  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:23:35am

re: #251 crown_of_feathers

Hell, even Ed Wood's Plan was better than that!

256 laZardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:23:52am

re: #240 TimeQuake

Reminds me of this bizarre "modified" human from this sci-fi video game I like to play. Only the "modded" human is just a tad less lifeless.

257 VegasRick  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:25:07am

re: #205 Alouette

Creepiest. Burka. Picture. EVER.

Ewoks!

258 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:25:56am

re: #174 WriterMom

This is on topic I think:

UK: Whitey Must Work MUCH HARDER to Integrate Muslims

LOOK AT THE PICTURE!

HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA


I love this comment-

How utterly ridiculous another daft PC Quango spurting rubbish.
- Liza, London

259 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:25:59am

re: #253 Bob in Breckenridge

/Scalia is so smart he counts as two.

A few years ago, my wife was sworn in to be able to practice at the Supreme Court. The two justices who came to the reception afterwards were Sandra Day O'Connor and Scalia.
Now, that was a trip!

260 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:26:09am

re: #257 VegasRick
Nah. Borg. Ewoks cute and fuzzy. Borg, cold and scary.

261 Josephine  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:26:11am

re: #81 MJ

The New York Times called Obama a "Profile in Courage" this morning.
Yeah, right. The lying scum sits in that Church for 20 years never once confronting his racist, antisemitic pastor then only criticizes him when he has to but for the Times he is is a Profile in Courage.

For me, as an ordinary citizen, the proof of a person's character can be found in his behaviour as he goes about his daily life.

Is he fair in his dealings with all people? Would he intervene if he witnessed a racist incident on the subway? Would he get involved if he saw a (possibly drunk) person lying ill in a bus shelter?

Most of us will never serve on the battlefield or in parliament but that doesn't matter so much in terms of our character, because our mettle is tested and our principles demonstrated in smaller, but no less important, ways.

It takes courage to take a stand on an issue, to draw a line in the sand, especially when you're the first one to speak up. But after you speak up, you'll be surprised how many people will find the courage to stand with you.

Week in and week out, Barack Obama repeatedly failed this smaller test of character. Even if it didn't matter in terms of his policitical career, even if it didn't matter in terms of his family, it mattered to his character. At the very least, registering his disagreement with the church and walking out the door would have solidified something in Obama's character.

The positive influence on his family would have followed as a matter of course. But speaking up might also have had a beneficial impact on the members of the congregation, as well.

Given his close relationship with his pastor, Obama might have been the one person with enough influence to help Jeremiah Wright consider a different perspective on the issues. Failing that, perhaps he could have convinced many of his fellow churchgoers that their minister had gone too far and either he had to go or they had to go.

Since Barack Obama failed this test of his character in his personal life, I would not rely on him to stand up for what is right in his political life. And since his political life has the potential to affect millions or billions of people around the world, I hope Americans vote to keep him out of office.

262 Fasternu426  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:26:20am

re: #216 StinkHammer

I was thinking this months ago when I was hearing peoplesay McCain should pick Lieberman. I thought NOOOOOO! Then JC Watts came to mind. Not because he's black, but because he's a conservative and the anti-Obama. I don't think it would be gimicky. He's actually had a real job unlike the other side (being a lawyer that never actually practiced law doesn't count in my book).

263 Athos  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:26:56am

re: #227 Kosh's Shadow

From yesterday's speech, I figured out why he likes "Change". It sounds better than "Revolution!"

Frankly, there is no difference in Obama's application of 'Change' from that of 'Revolution'. It's nothing more but the typical progressive populist fascism from hard left. All the elements are there - rank populism and the need to 'fix' the country with very little details as to how; heavy use of conspiracy theories to play to populist paranioa; and the not so subtle application of Jacobin theories towards religion, education, and the supremacy of the state.

264 coquimbojoe  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:26:58am

re: #205 Alouette

Creepiest. Burka. Picture. EVER.

Hey, that's my mom in the black, on the left, smiling. Hi Mom!

265 bar  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:27:25am

Pastor Wrong, Barack the hack and go to hell Michelle.

Change you can believe in!

266 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:28:07am

re: #259 Kosh's Shadow

A few years ago, my wife was sworn in to be able to practice at the Supreme Court. The two justices who came to the reception afterwards were Sandra Day O'Connor and Scalia.
Now, that was a trip!

Did anyone get drunk and say, "Sandy, baby"?

267 debutaunt  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:28:41am

re: #119 Shaky Louie

You're a limercist!

British racist?

268 galloping granny  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:29:14am

re: #247 pingjockey

Rush is having waaaay too much fun with this Operation Chaos stuff.
Then again, the DNC told those states not to move their primaries and they did anyway. I would like to know the thought processes of the state committees. Why did they think they could go against the Nat'l committee and not get punished. These fools can't even run their own elections and they want to run the country? Mwahahahaha!

I would like to know the thought process of a Democrat National Committee that thought that it had any right whatever to dictate to the various states when and under what circumstances they would hold their state primary elections. It seems to me that to not seat the validly elected delegates chosen in the various states is a willful infringement on the rights of the people to choose their own leaders. If the DNC does not seat these delegates without a revote then somebody needs to be hauling them into court for election fraud.

269 rageman  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:29:20am

Notice that Mr. Obama did not give Mrs. Ferraro any "benefit of the doubt" with her (relatively mild)comments--but he expects that we ignore the racist rants of Pastor Wright. He called for her dismissal from Hil's campaign.

And the fact that he'd expose his kids to the "AIDS was invented by whites to kill blacks" diatribe--wow what a jerk. What a phoney. He is another BJ Clinton. (Depending on what I mean by "is").

270 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:29:29am

re: #266 MandyManners
"lighten up Sandy baby" John Riggins, Wa. Redskins Running Back. At some party or other.

271 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:30:25am
272 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:30:41am

re: #13 Carl in Jerusalem

Good Morning Charles!
At this point, I think Republicans should be doing everything they can to encourage the dhimmirats to tear themselves apart at a hung convention.


I am still voting for Obama in the NC demorat primaries.

He and Hillary will still be fighting when McCain takes office.

273 sven10077  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:31:12am

re: #232 cblesz

I would prefer Bobby Jindal...

I live in Louisiana as a resident alien, my citizenship is in Ohio. I did speak highly of Jindal and did donate. The problem with nominating Bobby right now would be the perception he "abandoned the Governorship".

Otherwise Hell yeah Bobby and JC are both the real deal on conservatism.

274 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:31:55am

re: #266 MandyManners

Did anyone get drunk and say, "Sandy, baby"?

No, everyone was on their best behavior. Just the rooms we were in were impressive- these are the rooms in the back of the Supreme Court building, with intricately carved ceilings. Impressive.

275 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:31:57am

re: #268 galloping granny
Never thought of that. Thanks. But would the DNC/RNC count like the Federal gov't in the fact that any powers not enumerated in the constituition go to the states?

276 ibmkeyboard  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:32:20am

re: #271 buzzsawmonkey

The artists who decorate the MSM are in full Obama-genuflection.

Read the comments.

Where are the Five Star General Stars?

277 Cygnus  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:32:42am

re: #113 Creeping Eruption

Open thread is dead, so OT:

I am going to Arizona this weekend and am thinking of going to the Titan Missile Museum and tour the AMARG boneyard. Any other suggestions?

Go to Kitt Peak and check out the telescopes. Really cool!

278 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:35:45am

re: #207 turn

"It is this perception of being unwelcome and of discrimination rather than attachment to their country of origin that diminishes a sense of belonging in British society"

Oh really? Jeez I thought it might have something to do with their attachment to the ROP

Did you read the article?

Multiculturalism fell out of favour in 2005, after the Government's equality chief Trevor Phillips warned that the country was "sleepwalking to segregation".

Government Equality Chief?

279 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:36:18am

Who says there is never any good news?

Palestinian Authority Doomed Without Peace Treaty, Erekat Says

March 19 (Bloomberg) -- Failure to complete a peace agreement with Israel this year will probably spell the end of the Palestinian Authority, a Palestinian negotiator said.

Saeb Erekat, a member of the Fatah party who has been the principal negotiator with Israel for 17 years, said all of the core issues between the Israelis and the Palestinians have been thoroughly discussed. The Palestinian Authority, which administers the West Bank, lost control of the Gaza Strip when Hamas ousted security forces loyal to Fatah in June.

``All we need is for Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to make decisions. Everything has been negotiated,'' Erekat said at a news conference for foreign journalists in east Jerusalem. ``If we fail to produce a peace agreement in 2008, we may disappear,'' he said of the Palestinian Authority.

280 brent  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:37:00am
“He didn’t just cross the line,” Obama said. “He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America.”

I'm sure they get this kind of ill treatment from their army of maids, nannies, topflight private school teachers, the army of yes-men trained to follow mom and pop Obama (as they go into the fields to toil) - gag, can I just stop now?

Those kids are living at a level that 99% of the US will never know, and we're to feel sorry for them because of a comment Imus made echoing sentiments of white America?

Obama the Uniter. Uniting the New Black Panthers and the crazy black preacher segment of the population like no other politician is 20 years.

Unless you count Farrakhan.

281 MadJadBad  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:37:30am

I'm wondering if BHO joined that church to counter criticism that he wasn't "black enough". Being biracial, he's probably heard that all his life.

282 MJ  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:37:35am

Melanie Phillips had a good analysis of Obama's Sermon on the Mount:

[Link: www.spectator.co.uk...]

283 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:37:40am

This afternoon's festivities in DC:

12:30pm - Die In at CAT, 1445 K St, with the Coalition for Justice and Accountability
1pm - War Profiteer of the Year Roving Award Ceremony
1:30pm - Anti-Torture demonstration with World Can't Wait at Lafayette Park
2pm - Public Gathering & Press Briefing at McPherson Square
3pm - CODEPINK action at the NSA - 725 17th Street NW between Pennsylvania and New York
5pm - meet at the Reflecting Pool on the west side of the Capitol, march to the Democratic National Committee Headquarters - bring pots & pans, drums, noisemakers, signs, banners
5pm - Vigil on Key Bridge, grassy triangle of land in front of the Key Bridge, Virginia side. bring flashlights

284 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:39:46am

re: #279 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Who says there is never any good news?

Palestinian Authority Doomed Without Peace Treaty, Erekat Says

G-d takes care of His enemies. First, PA, then Ham-ass.

And while they're whining, they could have a peace treaty if they could just accept Israel's right to exist as a Jewish state.
But the PA is just Hamas with better clothing, kind of like Obama and Wright.

285 Athos  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:39:49am

re: #254 buzzsawmonkey

Is Obama telling the truth that he would be rejecting the black community if he rejected Wright? And if so, what does that portend for America?

I think there is a fallacy at play here with the assumptions and statements being made about the feelings / thoughts of the 'black community'. I don't believe that people like Wright, Jackson, Sharpton, Malcolm X, the Black Panthers really speak / spoke for the 'black community'. They speak for their own interests and their own agenda. Just how many of this community are activists in the mindset of these people and how many are more like the Bill Cosby's, Thomas Sowell's, and Walter E. Williams of the community who focus not on the rhetoric of hate but on trying to address the real issues of the community and its self-inflicted problems?

286 Who Watches the Watchmen?  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:40:31am

Is this Atlas in the NYC IndyMedia? (third picture)

[Link: nyc.indymedia.org...]

287 laZardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:40:35am

re: #283 Who Watches the Watchmen?

This afternoon's festivities in DC:

12:30pm - Die In at CAT, 1445 K St, with the Coalition for Justice and Accountability

That's gonna be a lot fewer people voting for Obama and then getting disenfranchised by the Cheneyist electoral college that stole the vote for two elections running!

/mmm, moonbat redaction.

288 MJ  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:40:46am

re: #279 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

Who says there is never any good news?

Palestinian Authority Doomed Without Peace Treaty, Erekat Says

George Bush's State Department is negotiating with Hamas. Even the NYT has noticed:

U.S. May Relent on Hamas Role in Talks


[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

289 sparrowlake  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:41:20am

re: #263 Athos

Frankly, there is no difference in Obama's application of 'Change' from that of 'Revolution'. It's nothing more but the typical progressive populist fascism from hard left. All the elements are there - rank populism and the need to 'fix' the country with very little details as to how; heavy use of conspiracy theories to play to populist paranioa; and the not so subtle application of Jacobin theories towards religion, education, and the supremacy of the state.

"Between the idea
And the reality
Between the motion
And the act
Falls the Shadow

For Thine is the Kingdom

Between the conception
And the creation
Between the emotion
And the response
Falls the Shadow

Life is very long

Between the desire
And the spasm
Between the potency
And the existence
Between the essence
And the descent
Falls the Shadow

For Thine is the Kingdom

- T.S. Elliot, The Hollow Men"

290 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:41:38am

re: #228 galloping granny

I cannot tell you how many times everything has looked perfectly wonderful on preview and not two minutes later I realize that I truly should edit more carefully. :(

Granny- How about a "Preview your preview" Button? : ) But I know what you mean.

291 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:41:40am

Hey, MSM,

This is what a hero looks like.

292 laZardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:41:45am

re: #279 Kragar (proud to be kafir)

As long as the Iranians don't take matters into their own hands to SAEV A PRUOD PEOPLE FOR ALLUH!111

293 cblesz  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:41:59am

re: #273 sven10077

I live in Louisiana as a resident alien, my citizenship is in Ohio. I did speak highly of Jindal and did donate. The problem with nominating Bobby right now would be the perception he "abandoned the Governorship".

Otherwise Hell yeah Bobby and JC are both the real deal on conservatism.

You have to admit it though...he is awesome. Guy is brilliant. would love to see him debate Hillary or the Hussein...

294 Cygnus  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:42:05am

re: #149 ploome hineni

[Link: www.andrewbostom.org...]

Try this instead, "Rev." Wright:

Galatians 3:28 (New King James Version)

"There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is
neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus."

Or black
Or white
Or....

295 Kragar (proud to be kafir)  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:43:07am

re: #288 MJ

George Bush's State Department is negotiating with Hamas. Even the NYT has noticed:

U.S. May Relent on Hamas Role in Talks


[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Well, we need to be able to get them to trust us. Its easier to hit a target out in the open

/wishful thinking

296 Pete (Alois)  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:43:46am
297 thorfin  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:43:53am

Guys where do us of mixed blood (Welsh, English, Romanian, Italian, Scottish, Irish, and some southern Med) Hinze 57 type of people fit into the world of Hussein Obama?

I still think that his embrace of CHRISTIANITY is rather thin. Once a head knocker always a head knocker or so I have been told repeatedly while in the middle east.

298 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:44:48am

re: #288 MJ

George Bush's State Department is negotiating with Hamas. Even the NYT has noticed:

U.S. May Relent on Hamas Role in Talks


[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Let's send the whole State Department there, and while they're gone, fumigate the building and replace them.

Either that, or make sure to rotate all State Dept personnel through a remote office in Sderot.

299 pingjockey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:45:27am

re: #297 thorfin

You are mostly white! So, you mistah honkey are da debbil!

300 debutaunt  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:45:37am

re: #219 turn

Creepiest, that's an understatement ...

Hey you! Keep those bruises covered up!

301 Sabnen  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:47:03am

re: #228 galloping granny

I cannot tell you how many times everything has looked perfectly wonderful on preview and not two minutes later I realize that I truly should edit more carefully. :(

Try a new perspective . . . read it backwards . . . that will help catch spelling errors at least (if for some reason spell-check isn't working.

302 thorfin  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:48:25am

oh yeah, I forgot the coonass part of the mix

303 Macker  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:48:33am

re: #113 Creeping Eruption

Open thread is dead, so OT:

I am going to Arizona this weekend and am thinking of going to the Titan Missile Museum and tour the AMARG boneyard. Any other suggestions?

Here are some photos of my visit to the Titan Missile Museum. Don't forget to turn the key! Also, the Pima Air and Space Museum is a hoot too. Communist planes even!

304 MandyManners  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:48:49am

re: #296 Pete (Alois)

Hey, it's okay! Pay no attention to that Klansman behind the curtain.

LOL!

305 MJ  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:48:52am

re: #298 Kosh's Shadow

Let's send the whole State Department there, and while they're gone, fumigate the building and replace them.

Either that, or make sure to rotate all State Dept personnel through a remote office in Sderot.

David Welch is the "ambassador" to Hamas.

It's not just the State Department. It's a President who no longer leads and no longer believes in his own policies.

306 rawmuse  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:49:49am

Dang. I got to go downtown today. Pray that I allow all moonbats within strangling range to live. Lord, give me strength.

307 laZardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:51:05am

re: #296 Pete (Alois)

...OH.

/lol

308 BabbaZee  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:51:39am

VIDEO EVIDENCE


Last week, Imus referred to the Rutgers University women’s basketball team, most of whom are African-American, as “nappy-headed hos.” He has since apologized for his remarks, and CBS and MSNBC suspended his show for two weeks.

“He didn’t just cross the line,” Obama said. “He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America. The notions that as young African-American women — who I hope will be athletes — that that somehow makes them less beautiful or less important. It was a degrading comment. It’s one that I’m not interested in supporting.”

Though every major presidential candidate has decried the racist remarks, Obama is the first one to say Imus should lose his job for them...

“What we’ve been seeing around this country is this constant ratcheting up of a coarsening of the culture that all of have to think about,” Obama said.

“Insults, humor that degrades women, humor that is based in racism and racial stereotypes isn’t fun,” the senator told ABC News.

“And the notion that somehow it’s cute or amusing, or a useful diversion, I think, is something that all of us have to recognize is just not the case. We all have First Amendment rights. And I am a constitutional lawyer and strongly believe in free speech, but as a culture, we really have to do some soul-searching to think about what kind of toxic information are we feeding our kids,” he concluded.

309 laZardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:52:08am

re: #308 BabbaZee

WB

also, I don't know how you feel from the other side of the network. (:

310 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:52:20am
311 Bob in Breckenridge  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:52:24am

re: #259 Kosh's Shadow

A few years ago, my wife was sworn in to be able to practice at the Supreme Court. The two justices who came to the reception afterwards were Sandra Day O'Connor and Scalia.
Now, that was a trip!

Wow, that's cool! I love Scalia. He's by far the smartest SCOTUS justice we've had in years. It's too bad Judge Bork got "Borked" and we got stuck with Kennedy. His intellect is right up there with Scalia's.

312 StinkHammer  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:53:53am

re: #285 Athos

I think there is a fallacy at play here with the assumptions and statements being made about the feelings / thoughts of the 'black community'. I don't believe that people like Wright, Jackson, Sharpton, Malcolm X, the Black Panthers really speak / spoke for the 'black community'. They speak for their own interests and their own agenda. Just how many of this community are activists in the mindset of these people and how many are more like the Bill Cosby's, Thomas Sowell's, and Walter E. Williams of the community who focus not on the rhetoric of hate but on trying to address the real issues of the community and its self-inflicted problems?

I am amazed, however, while listening to talk radio (both local and national) at the amount of self-identified Black callers -- when calling to comment on the whole rev. Wright ordeal -- who chastise anyone who considers Rev. Wright to be bigoted and anti-American. I can't tell you how many revert to the "it's part of the Black American experience that you don't understand" argument -- in short, they flat-out refuse to condemn Wright's rantings.

Of course, I have no clue how much of the American black community is actually represented by that mentality -- the radio shows are merely anecdotal evidence. However, aside from such stalwarts as Thomas Sowell and Shelby Steele, how many members of said black community have actually come out making condemnatory statements regarding Rev. Wright and his ideas?

313 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:54:06am

re: #291 rappmandu

Too true.

314 rappmandu  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:54:35am

Hey, MSM,

Actions speak louder than words.

315 BabbaZee  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:54:57am

re: #309 laZardo

WB

also, I don't know how you feel from the other side of the network. (:

WB? What does it mean?

I don't understand the statement either..

Please explain the whole post
for I am befuddled.

lol

316 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:55:45am

re: #303 Macker

Here are some photos of my visit to the Titan Missile Museum. Don't forget to turn the key! Also, the Pima Air and Space Museum is a hoot too. Communist planes even!

Looks like I'll be ditching my in-laws for a few hours.

317 Florida Lady  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:56:13am

Obama could have weathered this storm much better if he:

1. Didn't make a point about not wearing the American flag lapel pin
2. Had placed his hand over his heart while citing the Pledge in Iowa
3. Didn't have a shrill wife with a penchant for putting her foot in her mouth at inappropriate times with anti-American screeds
4. Didn't have "Hussein" as his middle name

Putting aside his radically liberal views and naivete about who our enemies are and how to deal with them . . .
Like it or not, all of the above contribute to a growing anti-American image that he is gaining with the American people

Glad he's being exposed for what he really is.

/hardly ever post (mostly a lurker) . . . just my 2 cents

318 Creeping Eruption  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:58:44am

re: #277 Cygnus

That looks pretty cool. I'll add it to my list. Thanks.

319 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:58:47am

re: #305 MJ

David Welch is the "ambassador" to Hamas.

It's not just the State Department. It's a President who no longer leads and no longer believes in his own policies.

What next? An ambassador to Al-Qaeda?

320 nyc redneck  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:58:47am

re: #138 Sabnen

Absolutely, yes. The bloom is off the rose and the rose is starting to smell a little funny. He lost his momentum and that counts for much in love, war and politics.

Politically, he 'peaked' too early, but he had to in order to compete for the nomination; for that we can thank Hillary. I don't see how McCain can lose, with these two tearing each other up from now to August.

yes, isn't it ludicrous how the msm is insisting that he smells like a rose, when so many people are instinctively turning up their noses to a foul stench of something rotten.

321 laZardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 9:59:54am

re: #315 BabbaZee

WB? What does it mean?


Welcome Back.

The last thing you asked me on the open thread before I left was if you were afraid. To which I replied that I don't know how you really feel from behind two computer screens and thousands of miles of electricity flowing through copper wire.

322 faraway  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:01:11am

I am impressed with Obama. The Messiah has performed a real miracle:

Obama has now excited the GOP base more than Hillary ever could. Obama must now feel like Tojo on December 7th, 1941. Remember the Granny!

323 dolfan  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:02:32am

re: #105 ploome hineni

Nine, if you count the lapel pin. Oh wait -- he doesn't need one to show his patriotism. Right.

324 Cygnus  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:02:32am

re: #211 Alouette

The one in the middle with the headband needs a whuppin'
Her nose is showing.

Some poor man with a nose fetish could be driven to mindless lust from such a shocking exposure! Stone her!

325 faraway  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:02:49am

re: #317 Florida Lady

Obama could have weathered this storm much better if he:
2. Had placed his hand over his heart while citing the Pledge in Iowa


Minor correction, it was the National Anthem.

326 itellu3times  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:02:56am

Obama 3:2008

"There is neither Democrat nor Republican,
Liberal nor Conservative,
There are no Truth or Lies,
And we all have a crazy uncle we cannot disown,
There is no Bill or Hillary,
For you are all changed to Obama now."

327 smokefire  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:04:20am

..............Obama called out Imus, but won't disown his pastor.....

Wonder what some of the nice things his "black" father said to his "white" mother after he got liquored up. Bet those must have made him "cringe"................no blacks can't be racist, only us bad ole white folk can.

328 gonecamping  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:04:46am

re: #22 Lively

Never interrupt a Democrat when he is making a mistake.

And never open a door for them...it is amusing to watch them walk into the door as it opens....then wonder what happened.

Bet the DNC sells silver shoe horns to assist in the removal of feet from mouths.

329 erevu  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:05:15am

Wait wait wait...

He called for the head of someone who made inflammatory comments directed at blacks...

yet sat there and swallowed any comments his racist pastor said directed at whites and America.

How cute.

330 xtraBilly  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:05:32am

re: #317 Florida Lady

Obama could have weathered this storm much better if he:

1. Didn't make a point about not wearing the American flag lapel pin
2. Had placed his hand over his heart while citing the Pledge in Iowa
3. Didn't have a shrill wife with a penchant for putting her foot in her mouth at inappropriate times with anti-American screeds
4. Didn't have "Hussein" as his middle name

Putting aside his radically liberal views and naivete about who our enemies are and how to deal with them . . .
Like it or not, all of the above contribute to a growing anti-American image that he is gaining with the American people

Glad he's being exposed for what he really is.

/hardly ever post (mostly a lurker) . . . just my 2 cents

Looks like the makings a Top 10 List of things that make Barack cringe.
#5 - my white granny

331 Cygnus  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:05:59am

re: #237 Shaky Louie

Right! We do not become "braindead" when we walk into a church.

Paul the Apostle himself wanted the church to check up on what he was saying!

332 BabbaZee  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:06:37am

re: #321 laZardo

Welcome Back.

The last thing you asked me on the open thread before I left was if you were afraid. To which I replied that I don't know how you really feel from behind two computer screens and thousands of miles of electricity flowing through copper wire.

Oh kay thanks

I did not ask you if I was afraid, I already know I am not afraid.
The only thing I "fear" is GOD.

I asked you if I strike you as being afraid of anything.

Simple yes or no answer can be rendered based on empirical evidence.
;~}

Gotta go I am cooking a huge pot of meatballs

Give your brother a BD kiss from me


Bye for now!

333 smokefire  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:07:22am

.............and Imus is pandering to Obama now.

No fool like an old fool.

334 Florida Lady  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:07:28am

#325

Thanks - I knew it was one or the other!

335 Josephine  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:09:43am

re: #196 SusanL

Thanks to the good Reverend, I will never look at black people the same way. I, like others, (I guess foolishly) always assumed that people thought the way I did. It matters who you are, not what you are. I took Dr. King's words to heart and have tried to live that way.

Apparently I am quite wrong. Based on Jeremy Wrights words, I have to assume that any black person I meet is going to automatically hate me just because I am white. If I find out that they go to this kind of church, I know they hate me.

By the way, that crap about his grandmother being afraid of black men? Well, have you see the way they act? They frighten me also and they do it on purpose.

I am sorry to hear that Jeremiah Wright and his church of haters have that much influence on you. I hope that you will be able to reaffirm your core beliefs and stick to your principles based on Dr. King's words.

I will continue to look at black people the same way I always have: as individuals who are equally capable of good and evil as all other human beings.

If I learned that a particular person was a member of that type of church then, yes, that would tell me something about that person's core beliefs and I would not feel comfortable around him knowing that he might hate me based on the colour of my skin. The same is true for any member of the Nation of Islam.

Black men do not frighten me. On the contrary, on the subway here in Toronto, it is almost always a young man of colour who offers me his seat. Judging by my experiences on the subway, I tend to think that many black men are being raised to be polite and considerate citizens. Rarely has a white man offered his seat to me (a white woman).

Men or women of any colour who dress and/or behave a certain way should set off your radar. I've known too many decent black men to accept your statement that they are all trying to frighten people.

336 Florida Lady  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:10:53am

#330

Bingo! we should add to this list and send it to Letterman . . . anyone else game to add 5 more?

337 faraway  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:12:04am

Obama is a Snitch

338 laZardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:12:41am

re: #335 Josephine

I once had my Game Boy stolen by a black man off the bus, and nobody wanted to help me chase the guy down even though I was wearing 10+lb of books in my backpack.

Remember, it's the white man's fault.

/needed to get that off his chest...

339 ArmyAunt  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:13:56am

re: #322 faraway

Oh yes!
Here is an article that says it best:
[Link: www.realclearpolitics.com...]

The money quote:

As for the right, however, I expect that the main effect of this controversy will be to consolidate support for John McCain in a way even Hillary Clinton could not have done. In a contest between a man who sat in the pews Sunday after Sunday while his pastor bad-mouthed America, versus a war hero who endured torture for his country, no one on the right will even regard this as a choice.
340 Athos  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:13:57am

re: #310 buzzsawmonkey

Think about the accusation made to those of the black community who aren't interested in being victims or pawns of the separtists but instead embrace the basic core values of this country that other different people (race, ethnic, religious) embraced throughout its history to achieve their personal goals. Like the 'moderate muslim' who accepts their religion and faith as such but not as a government system or in a dogmatic literal sense - they have reformed their beliefs without the entire community doing so. They don't speak out against the extreme for various reasons - fear, complacency, or they decide that their goal is not to police their group but to focus on following their beliefs and dreams. Can those in the black community be any different?

Is there a worse epitaph tossed at a person of color today than to be an 'Uncle Tom' or 'Housen.......' like those tossed at any conservative black or one who decides to stand against the excesses of those who insist on keeping the community down because it further's their political and financial agenda's? Aren't those epitaphs used to disqualify and marginalize the recipients in the same way the idiots on the left move so quickly to call those who don't agree with them Nazi's?

I don't believe the Civil Rights movement was an aberration. The aberration is the decision by those like Jackson, Sharpton, Wright, and now Obama to embrace victimhood and separtism as opposed to the message of Dr. King. Calling Civil Rights an aberration is the same as calling the rapid growth of black representation during the Reconstruction an aberration. The aberration then was not Reconstruction, but the establishment of Jim Crow when the Old South regained power.

The key around this issue is based entirely on the motivations - to seize and exercise power to fulfill a 'progressive' political agenda. Using the race card is a means to the end.

341 Cygnus  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:17:50am

re: #257 VegasRick

Ewoks!

Necromongers!

342 Gus Bailey  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:18:07am

re: #268 galloping granny

I would like to know the thought process of a Democrat National Committee that thought that it had any right whatever to dictate to the various states when and under what circumstances they would hold their state primary elections. It seems to me that to not seat the validly elected delegates chosen in the various states is a willful infringement on the rights of the people to choose their own leaders. If the DNC does not seat these delegates without a revote then somebody needs to be hauling them into court for election fraud.

The problem is that this pre-supposes a party and therefore primary system. That system is only a fabrication of those parties currently in power. In order to participate in the fabrication, one must be willing to abide by the rules of the fabrication. Failing this, the fabric figuratively tears, and the whole illusion of democratic involvement falls apart, "So you get what we had here last week", which is the way I likes it.

343 Josephine  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:18:12am

re: #338 laZardo

I once had my Game Boy stolen by a black man off the bus, and nobody wanted to help me chase the guy down even though I was wearing 10+lb of books in my backpack.

Remember, it's the white man's fault.

/needed to get that off his chest...

I'm sorry to hear that no one helped you. Perhaps strangers are less likely to help when it comes to small material things. I hope that people would be more willing to help if the situation was more dire.

344 gonecamping  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:18:19am

Is it just me, or does Obama come across as very condescending when speaking? I dislike hearing his speeches because they sound like he is talking down to the audience and 'everyone' is too dumb to understand what goes on in the world. ALgore has the same 'superior' attitude when speaking down to the masses about gorebal warming or any other subject. Nothing about Obama seems sincere.

345 looking closely  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:19:26am

re: #20 Lively

AP is already writing him hall passes. Where is the Republican leadership in all this. They should be out speaking to this.

If they attack Obama now, its tantamount to supporting Hilary.

From a partisan perspective, it comes down to supporting whichever candidate would make the better (ie weaker) matchup against McCain.

At this point, I think its *probably* still Hilary, though that's hard to say.

346 laZardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:20:52am

re: #343 Josephine

If you want a dire situation where nobody helped me, I oughta enlighten you on how I got expelled from high school. (;

Either way, all I know is that I don't expect anybody to come to my defense if I get attacked, spiritual or physical, stranger or friend. I make me, I defend me, as egotistical as that sounds.

347 ArmyAunt  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:21:08am

re: #338 laZardo

I worked in a warehouse as a supervisor for 20 years.
By and large, the older work force, 30 to 60 knew that if they got into trouble for something, they deserved it.
White or black it made no difference.

But with the younger blacks, to a man, if I corrected them (using cell phones on company time, standing around talking etc, normal stuff everyone tries to get by with) each and EVERY one of them said I was "picking on them because they are black"
Every one and I am not kidding.

I personally saw that blacks could get by with twice as much crap as whites because the company was afraid of a lawsuit.

I never let that crap get to me, just pointed out to them that they weren't the only "minority" (I am a woman) and if they wanted to play that game, it was fine with me, lets go to HR.
Shut em up pretty quick ;)

348 Athos  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:21:29am

re: #312 StinkHammer

How many of the moderate muslims speak out? Why don't more? Or even consider, how many conservatives speak out against the excesses and bias of the MSM beyond those who participate in the blogosphere? We are only a fraction of a percent of all those in this country of 300 million who actively speak out.

Friends of mine from Cameroon listen to Rev. Wright and are amazed at the rank stupidity and lies that Wright goes off on in his more commonly played snipets. They live in a well-to-do suburban community in a home worth nearly $1M. They don't consider Wright, or Jackson or Sharpton speak for them and focus their efforts on raising their 3 kids to represent the values that they have and values that they came to America to share. They look down on their relatives who came to US and sponge off of the government. So do most of their friends who I've met. Very few are conservative, but they share the values of this country. They don't believe in being professional victims.

349 faraway  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:23:17am

Grandma got run over by Obama
Walking home from our house yesterday.
You can say there's no such thing as Messiah,
But as for me and Rev Wright, we believe.

- or -

Obama the red-nosed reindeer
Had a very shiny nose
And if you ever saw it
You would even say pot helps, maybe a little blow
All of the other reindeer
Used to laugh and call him Hussein
They never let him say nothin bout poor Monica
Just Hallelujah to God Damn America

350 Rancher  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:23:54am

re: #284 Kosh's Shadow

But the PA is just Hamas with better clothing, kind of like Obama and Wright.


Then explain to me why we give them guns and money?

351 ArmyAunt  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:24:37am

re: #348 Athos

Compare the black "victim mentality" to asians, chinese, irish, italian and especially, JAPANESE immigrants.
The Japanese lost everything, were put into internment camps etc.

Yet they have pulled themselves up by their bootstraps one and all to get ahead.
I don't think that Obama's speech helped race relations, I think it has hurt them!

352 Dianna  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:26:32am

re: #306 rawmuse

They're wandering around in squadrons. I saw some bicyclists go by - they had signs about "End Warming" on their bikes. It was actually kind of cute, in that hopelessly clueless fashion of leftists.

353 laZardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:27:17am

re: #351 ArmyAunt

They were made broke, but they still decided to Go For Broke. Now that's seriously inspiring.

354 zenchris  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:30:36am

Through all the introspection during a very elegant speech, Barack still failed to repudiate "the man." He tapped danced around the the damnable comments from his spiritual mentor, by throwing all of us, including his grandmother under the bus, by claiming we were all justifiably misunderstood for racial stereotypes. Let him, and his followers especially in the press remember that in the future when undoubtedly someone will utter what he considers an unacceptable comment, because if he can justify Wright, I'm pretty sure by that standard we're all safe to express our own opinions.-yeah good luck!

355 Josephine  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:34:33am

re: #346 laZardo

You're right: we each have to be willing to stand alone and we often end up doing just that.

But our actions can motivate others to take action, too. Even as individuals, just ordinary citizens going about our daily lives, we have more power than we realize.

356 laZardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:39:21am

re: #355 Josephine

There's a word for that, though it's pretty strong and often placed in a negative context:

Manipulation.

It's a required tool for survival. Macchiavelli makes great reading.

357 Rancher  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:40:06am
The Japanese lost everything, were put into internment camps etc.


Not to mitigate the outrage of arresting or detaining someone without habeas corpses and please correct me if I’m wrong, (like someone won’t), but I think only those families who FBI investigations or Magic intercepts found to have a conection to the Japanese government were interned and no property was confiscated. The point is well made regardless, I think an embracing of the middleclassness such as immigrants do would go a far way to correcting the problems Blacks have. Marrying the mothers of their children would have an even greater effect.

358 Dianna  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:42:37am

re: #357 Rancher

No, on the west coast, the Japanese were just rounded up, and their property was confiscated.

It was a complete travesty.

359 BabbaZee  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 10:55:23am

re: #356 laZardo

There's a word for that, though it's pretty strong and often placed in a negative context:

Manipulation.

It's a required tool for survival. Macchiavelli makes great reading.

Whenever the bible mentions the word WITCHCRAFT

it can be analyzed by context to mean the presence of exactly three things can be seen in the action:

Intimidation
Manipulation
and
Domination

= Witchcraft

/back to the meatballs

360 BabbaZee  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 11:03:58am

re: #346 laZardo

I defend me, as egotistical as that sounds.


This is very tiring, LOL. I tried it that way for years.
Makes big tumors grow on your internal organs and gives you sinus headaches.


He defends me now.
All I have to do is ask, and get the hell out of His way.

See Haman's Gallows,
the unbelievably miraculous existence of even a single Jewish person on this planet today,
and a million other examples inside the Bible and in the history of this world.

Much more effective and far less stressful than doing it yourself. lol

But when the plot came to the king's attention, he issued written orders that the evil scheme Haman had devised against the Jews should come back onto his own head, and that he and his sons should be hanged on the gallows.
~ Esther 9:25


I am sorry none ever defended you.
They never defended me either.

BBL

361 laZardo  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 11:13:16am

re: #360 BabbaZee

Like I said, I don't expect to be defended. If I pray, I don't even expect to be answered.

I need to do some more thinking with my eyes closed now though. It's 2 AM and if I don't stop thinking with my eyes open, maybe I will get tumors and sinus headaches. LOL.

/night, y'all

362 Rancher  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 11:14:27am

Depends what you mean by detention camps. They certainly kicked them out, called the whole West Coast a military exclusion zone but from Wikipedia:

While this event is most commonly called the internment of Japanese Americans, in fact there were several different types of camps involved. The best known facilities were the Assembly Centers run by the Western Civilian Control Administration (WCCA), and the Relocation Centers run by the War Relocation Authority (WRA), which are generally (but unofficially) referred to as "internment camps." The Department of Justice (DOJ) operated camps officially called Internment Camps, which were used to detain those suspected of actual crimes or "enemy sympathies."


Those who could relocate somewhere else outside the exclusion zone were free to leave the Relocation Centers. They had to pay the costs of relocation though and I’m sure any assets they couldn’t take like homes were lost. I don’t want too put too much lipstick on this pig but we didn’t and probably couldn’t put 120,000 Japanese in camps. Actual number was something over 7,000.

363 BabbaZee  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 11:23:24am

re: #361 laZardo


If I pray, I don't even expect to be answered.

Then you won't be.
Self fulfilling prophecy.
Free will is a bitch!


Believe in nothing and you shall have it, in abundance.


It is sad how easy it is for us to believe in everything negative
but how impossible it is for us to believe in our own inheritance of joy and freedom

I already told you once before:
Your whole shtick depends on a fervent (though unadmitted and unrecognized) belief in GOD

no GOD
nothing to get all nihled up about

so ....you already believe in GOD deeply
you are simply standing with your back to him in a different room

Goodnight Weedhopper

sleep good

364 Josephine  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 12:09:07pm

re: #356 laZardo

There's a word for that, though it's pretty strong and often placed in a negative context:

Manipulation.

It's a required tool for survival. Macchiavelli makes great reading.

I call it leading by example.

365 A. van Hilten  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 12:49:01pm

The thing is, whenever I hear the Obama (pbuh) crowd trying to minimize these race-card issues, I always picture the good 'ole reverend spouting Ali G's trademark punch line: "Is it because I is black?". Again and again. And it never fails to bring a smile to my face. Watching a full-fledged black supremacist and his mentored presidential hopeful cowering behind racial victimhood stereotypes in this day and age is just too funny — albeit in a tragic sort of way, mind you.

For all his talk about white oppression, this racist fruitcake Wright and his partner-in-hate Farrakhan are cheapening the suffering (and achievements) of their own people (if such a thing does indeed exist, as opposed to individuals of different skin color). Heck, the lil' nasty Mugabe wannabe wouldn't be fit to shine Medgar Evers' shoes if he could travel back in time.


“He didn’t just cross the line,” Obama said. “He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America.”


Apparently, what's good for the white goose ain't good for the black gander... Go figure.

"Is it because I is black?"

366 InternationalObserver  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 1:55:32pm

Both Don and Barack, before speaking, ought perhaps to have thought:

I MUS not do this.

367 Gadfly  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 2:07:12pm

And yet Barack is shaken, just shaken, that there would be a reaction to this. Up until a little while ago this guy was an advisor to Barack's campaign. His preacher for what 20 years? How many sermons did Barack walk out on - exactly? And to assert that most folks have a preacher, pastor or rabbi (gotta be inclusive you know) that says things "with which you strongly disagreed" and that this was just like that. Yeah just exactly as if David Duke was your advisor. This is who 14 million Democrats want to be President?! If the plan was to make Hillary look good they sure as hell succeeded.

368 gymgal  Wed, Mar 19, 2008 3:00:56pm

You know, if this guy gets in there's gonna be BIG trouble. PLEASE PLEASE EVERYONE, spread the word.

369 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 21, 2008 7:40:51pm

re: #212 Charles

Easy way for now - just delete it from the tags for your entries.

I deleted the entry. The errant tag category still appears in the drop down tag menu, no big deal really, just like being neat.

/I realize you're still working on the feature


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