I condemn the EU.

What took them so long?

/

FU EU.

"the film equates Islam with violence."

Now I wonder why it would do that?

/

All Hail The EU-niks, leaders in Global Dhimming

If the current generation were alive in centuries past, there would have been no renaissance, no enlightenment, no scientific revolution, no biblical scholarship, no philosophy, no Europe.

We believe that acts, such as the above-mentioned film, serve no other purpose than inflaming hatred.”

but the blown up buses and trains happened before the film.

So what inflamed the Islamists before they were inflamed by Fitna ?

/

IMHO Geert Wilders has obviously been inspired by G-d.

“The European Union and its member states apply the principle of the freedom of speech which is part of our values and traditions. However,...

You know the next thing coming out of his mouth is going to be a complete backtracking of what he said after that "However."

I got Geertomania!

"the film equates Islam with violence."
Events seem to bear this out.

Slovenia, which holds the rotating EU presidency, said it supported the Dutch government’s position and believes the film does nothing to promote dialogue among religions.

Now that I know what fitna means (thanks BabbaZee), the object of the film is to start a dialogue within Islam, not among religions.

It also reveals the dhimmis.

"If we grovel fast enough, maybe you barbaric thugs won't slaughter as many of us this time," added the Slovenian President in a hopeful tone.

"Mutual tolerance and respect are universal values we should uphold."

Yeah, right! Someone needs to explain to them that only works if the tolerance IS mutual.

self-censor: ON

Blown up planes trains and buses equate Islam with violence

Miami acadhimmia springs into action... converts library tower into minaret!

UMiami: Islamic call to prayer played from clock tower
Library broadcast part of Islamic Awareness Month

Muslims students at the University of Miami have organized for the Islamic call to prayer, broadcasted each Friday afternoon this month from Richter Library's clock tower in commemoration of Islamic Awareness Month. The call to prayer, or Adhan, is spoken in Arabic and is meant to resonate throughout the area.

"It serves as constant reminder of when we have to pray, because prayer itself is a reminder of our religion and how we practice it," said Selima Jumarali, the vice president of the organization.

The Hurricane solicits your comments here.

“Mutual tolerance and respect are universal values we should uphold. We believe that acts, such as the above-mentioned film, serve no other purpose than inflaming hatred.”

I'm gonna go puke now.

Mutual tolerance and respect are universal values

No they are not. Read what's in the Koran, stupid.

They're having a fitna

"Mutual tolerance and respect are universal values we should uphold..."

Apparently, Islam didn't get the memo.

re: #12 zmdavid

What does Fitna mean? I know I saw it before but it has slipped my mind.

islam has victims without being violent?

“The European Union and its member states apply the principle of the freedom of speech which is part of our values and traditions. However, it should be exercised in a spirit of respect for religious and other beliefs and convictions,”

True religion has nothing to fear from the truth.

Sunshine is the best disinfectant....

A right on the rim is Dhim.

re: #21 MellyMel

Civil war, dispute

re: #18 Kreuzueber Halbmond

DING DING DING

We have a WINNAH !

Chance that any of these guys actually watched the film

zero. point. zero

Damn...now they're going to riot to remind us how non-violent they are.

IIRC there are a few tough boys in Slovenia...

Stopped the Serbs cold in 91.

/Their politicians, of course, are another matter...

re: #9 vxbush

You know the next thing coming out of his mouth is going to be a complete backtracking of what he said after that "However."

It's called a "but... monkey"

So when will the EU condemn Voltaire?

Next, the EU will condemn the vilification of Jews and Christians in mosques and Islamic bookstores throughout the EU and the world.

I'm not holding my breath.

Now the EU and Iran have something in common.

Maybe next time they will first try to read the verses to understand why Islam is equated with violence instead of condemning for fear of violence.

Now the Europeans respect the conviction of those willing to behead them in God's name!

re: #25 BabbaZee

Civil war, dispute

Thanks! How appropriate.

re: #16 Terp Mole

I'm all for observing an Islamic Awareness Month. Though, to be honest, my interpretation differs greatly from Miami University's.

re: #21 MellyMel
Here's the wiki page Babba posted on the last thread:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
I think wiki is OK for this sort of info.

re: #16 Terp Mole

Miami acadhimmia springs into action... converts library tower into minaret!

The Hurricane solicits your comments here.

Unfortunately, that isn't new -- Muslim student groups have been doing that at the U of Miami since at least 2004:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

re: #7 Shug

but the blown up buses and trains happened before the film.

So what inflamed the Islamists before they were inflamed by Fitna ?

/

The audacity of the Europeans to "squat" on European territory.

Geert Wilders' FITNA the movie is Holland's Anne Frank's DIARY--telling the truth and nothing but the truth, about totalitarians in our midst.

“The European Union and its member states apply the principle of the freedom of speech which is part of our values and traditions. However, it should be exercised in a spirit of respect for religious and other beliefs and convictions,”

Free speech is meaningless unless it can be exercised in a spirit of disrespect. If forced to constantly respect the beliefs of others- why bother with free speech? It's rendered meaningless. You have the right to free speech unless you offend someone- then you don't! That's not free speech- that's limited speech- period.

If you call us violent, we'll kill you!

[/Mohammedans]

huh, doesn't seem any worse than sending billions to PAuth, Pakistan, Afgahn, Egypt etc

During the Cold War, Radio Free Europe / Radio Liberty was broadcast into the Soviet Union, despite the obvious "provocation" this posed. But that was yesterday. Today, the EU has been dhimmified.

“The vast majority of Muslims reject extremism and violence. In fact, the victims are often also Muslims.”

Forget for a moment the alleged factual basis for this statement. The statement itself is a non sequitur.

The vast majority of Muslims reject extremism and violence

No they don't.
They remain silent.
They do nothing

It immediately drew criticism from the Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende, who said the film equates Islam with violence.

Yeah, and.....?

re: #42 Iron Fist

If you call us violent, we'll kill you!

[/Mohammedans]

Achmed the Dead Terrorist?

re: #45 Occasional Reader

A technique of propaganda called "Turnspeak"

re: #46 Shug

No they don't.
They remain silent.
They do nothing

And silence implies consent!

I'm watching the original Star Trek episode A Piece of the Action right now in a window in the corner of my screen. That's the episode with the "gangster planet", where an entire culture has been patterned after a book about the Chicago gangs of the 1920s. After searching the computer banks, Spock tells McCoy: "There is no record of such a culture based on a moral inversion." Apparently Islam, based on another book of criminals, is not mentioned in the Enterprise's history tapes.

re: #43 akak

Or appointing an "envoy" to the OIC

re: #41 Sharmuta

True. All should be disrespected, it is the only safe way.

Like a Mel Brooks movie.

Christians have done their part, "piss Christ" etc,

Now let the Muslims do theirs

Step aside, Balkenende, I want Geert Wilders for president of Holland and President of the EU.

And if Geert Wilders can't work in the EU, I welcome him to lead a state in the USof A.

re: #4 MellyMel

"the film equates Islam with violence."

Now I wonder why it would do that?

/

its puzzling isnt it .... :-)

re: #27 Shug

Chance that any of these guys actually watched the film

zero. point. zero

My Magic 8 Ball says 'don't count on it'

Screw the EU film critics; Siskel and Ebert give fitna 2 thumbs up.

re: #38 Charles Unfortunately, there's nothing new there -- Muslim student groups have been doing that at the U of Miami since at least 2004:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Great Ganesha's trunk!... 2004! Crikey!

You'd think by now the ACLU (or someone) would object to converting a public library into a temporary minaret.

re: #57 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Screw the EU film critics; Siskel and Ebert give fitna 2 thumbs up.

cut off their thumbs !

The vast majority of scorpions in bottles reject extremism and violence. In fact, the victims are often also scorpions.

re: #59 Shug

cut off their thumbs !

I give the EU 2 middle fingers up.

We believe that acts, such as the above-mentioned film, serve no other purpose than inflaming hatred.

I believe the acts, recorded in the above-mentioned film, serve the purpose of revealing the hatred behind those acts.

The EU was close. Just got the sentence a little twisted.

re: #58 Terp Mole

Great Ganesha's trunk!... 2004! Crikey!

You'd think by now the ACLU (or someone) would object to converting a public library into a temporary minaret.

Not if they want to keep their heads.

re: #53 Ojoe

Someone should tell the muslims they have the right to be offended, but not the right to violently act out on it.

Behead those who show us beheading those who insult islam

C-3PO: "But Sir, no one worries about upsetting Christians."
Han Solo: "That's because Christians don'll people's arms out of their sockets when they get offended. Muslims are known to do that."
/apologies to Mr. Lucas

A film which shows footage of the many muslim actions against civil society, freedom, and da joooooooooooooooos, in their own words, and by their own actions, is considered harmful?

Do they want to, maybe, think about that for a minute?

Fitna didn't make anything up. They collected snapshots from the news. The news which shills for the people that Fitna exposes.

This is biased? This doesn't help dialog?

I have an epiphany. Why not ask the muslims to go on about killing joooooooooooooooos, about not killing kafirs, about enjoying the freedoms, and paying the prices for democracy. Maybe then we can have a dialog.

If the news is considered harmful, and is shut down due to pressure from the people doing the harm, isn't this censorship?

If they don't like the news, showing them demanding joooooooooooooos on a spit slowly roasting on a fire, then shouldn't they change what is being said?

Don't shoot the messenger, change the message.

The problem with muslims appears to be that they are unwilling to take responsibility for their own actions, individually or collectively. They couldn't have been behind 9/11, muslims don't kill. They couldn't have been behind 7/11. Or 3/7. Or any of the 10000+ islamic/muslim initiated violent acts as reported and archived by several web sites. Because to admit this, is to admit that they are in fact a violent group, hell bent upon the destruction of the 20 million or so joooooooooooooos in the world, hell bent upon domination and subjugation of the rest of the world.

This wouldn't fit some of their world view. Or our blind leaders world view.

It does fit their language. And their actions.

Reality is a bitch. Ain't it.

So why isn't the FBI investigating these cranks, rather than getting sensitivity training from them? Why isn't the EU asking reasonable questions, instead of condemning reporters and re-reporters of news?

Once again:

10 print "Allah is a false god and the Big Mo' is a false prophet."
20 GOTO 10

re: #16 Terp Mole

Miami acadhimmia springs into action... converts library tower into minaret!

The Hurricane solicits your comments here.

The first commenter - I wonder if that's former LGF poster AI? Lots of good comments there, especially the rebuttals of the RoP apologists.

Perhaps the free Europeans will also agree with the mentor of a would be president and damn those whose lives were lost on their beaches and in their fields.What's next?

re: #48 bigmacdaddy,

Just a general observation. Even the so-called Moderate Muslims react with variations of this comment. It was especially evident during the Loony Toons Riots, when Mohammedans of all stripes justified the rioting because we had to understand that they were insulted.

My favorite Slovene: Jure Robic.

‘‘During race, I am going crazy, definitely,’’ he says, smiling in bemused despair. ‘‘I cannot explain why is that, but it is true.’’

The craziness is methodical, however, and Robic and his crew know its pattern by heart. Around Day 2 of a typical weeklong race, his speech goes staccato. By Day 3, he is belligerent and sometimes paranoid. His short-term memory vanishes, and he weeps uncontrollably. The last days are marked by hallucinations: bears, wolves and aliens prowl the roadside; asphalt cracks rearrange themselves into coded messages. Occasionally, Robic leaps from his bike to square off with shadowy figures that turn out to be mailboxes. In a 2004 race, he turned to see himself pursued by a howling band of black-bearded men on horseback.

‘‘Mujahedeen, shooting at me,’’ he explains. ‘‘So I ride faster.’’

My personal envoy will deliver this message to the Eurotwits.
// {;-)™

Disgraceful.

It took the US to clean up the Barbary pirates a couplea' hundred years ago, looks like the Euroweenies are waiting for us to do it again. Of course, the way to really win this will be for that old Yankee ingenuity to come up with something to replace petroleum.

re: #70 Kilroy

What's next?

Gird yer loins.

That sure didn't take long. Now that it's out of the way, it's Friday, and I'm sure there will be plenty of seething.

However, unless someone knows something I don't, I think it's going to take a week or so before the riots get organized.

Took a crack at responding:

http://posthumousluger.com/?p=39

"Your statement would be a greater contribution to the discussion if you could include some specifics — you do not mention which beliefs and convictions Wilders’ denigrated that you feel must be respected.

For example, Wilders includes the following – sura 4:56:

“Those who reject our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire: as often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.”

Is this one of the beliefs and convictions which you believe Wilders should have treated with a spirit of respect?"

“Mutual tolerance and respect are universal values we should uphold, said the Slovenian President.

* * *
Willkommen, Bien Venu, Welcome --- there is NO Mutuality in islam!

We're still waiting for the MUTUAL part of the deal, whereby non-mohammedans get freedom of speech & freedom of religion, in the Caliphate.

There is no reciprocity in the Caliphate. Now there's no freedom in the EU-Caliphate for those who seek freedom for all.

re: #4 MellyMel

Now I wonder why it would do that?

The racist repulicans

Does anyone really give a damn what the EU thinks these days? They, just like their equally arrogantly useless cohorts in the UN have outlived their "best sell by" date. I blame the EU for alot of problems here in Turkey .. mostly the increasing islamization.

Condemn scriptures, video, and pictures?

Did they even watch Fitna?

It wasn't Geert's opinion of Islam.

It was evidence of the terror inflicted by Islamists.

re: #77 Davidari

Took a crack at responding:

http://posthumousluger.com/?p=39

"Your statement would be a greater contribution to the discussion if you could include some specifics — you do not mention which beliefs and convictions Wilders’ denigrated that you feel must be respected.

For example, Wilders includes the following – sura 4:56:

“Those who reject our Signs, We shall soon cast into the Fire: as often as their skins are roasted through, We shall change them for fresh skins, that they may taste the penalty: for Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise.”

Is this one of the beliefs and convictions which you believe Wilders should have treated with a spirit of respect?"

"Those comments are taken out of context! Look at all the violence in the Bible!"

/rop apologists

“Mutual tolerance and respect are universal values we should uphold, said the Slovenian President.

Dumbass in Islam we're all mutually targets because we don't come from the "master race".

I really wish these jackasses would take a 5 week all expenses paid vacation to "the magic kingdom". It would definitely open some eyes.

Mutual tolerance and respect are universal values we should uphold.

They're not universal values in the ummah- hence the problem.

Wish I'd have had the forsight to invest in this company years ago.

re: #84 baconeatingkaffir

Hey bacon! How are ya?

re: #87 WriterMom

Hey! I'm living the life. Have a long weekend this week. The 8 week english prep term finished and I'm relaxing. :)

re: #46 Shug

I remember seeing a poll taken of "Muslims" that shows even if: "The vast majority of Muslims reject extremism and violence"... the number of Muslims who adhere to the "Death to the Jews and the Infidels" is around 80 million. A low percentage of the total... but... A huge number of Hysterical, Self-Righteous, Carpet Chewing, Book-Burning Muppet's with S**T for Brains, want to kill us all. I think I'll keep my shields up captain.

re: #81 buzzsawmonkey

* * *
You are free to make any movie you want.
Geert Wilders has knocked himself out making his movie.
I support the messenger, and will support your movie when you make it.

Maybe these morons should just watch the flick.

Anyone who would meekly submit to the will of barbarians has no business being part of the government of a civilized nation.

There's a lot of fear itself in Europe.

Will the film hit the big screen in the US ?
Since the Jews control the media and Holywierd I smell an Oscar

re: #93 chinesearithmetic

There's a lot of fear itself in Europe.

FDR was wrong. There's lots to fear besides fear itself.

re: #94 LeftJustAintRight

Sorry
/Sarc

#75 Babbazee: That says it all.

re: #92 The Other Les

Anyone who would meekly submit to the will of barbarians has no business being part of the government of a civilized nation.

That should be chiseled into the pedestal of a statue somewhere...

May I assume that Mr. Wilders is the hands down winner of this year's "Fallaci" award?

re: #71 Iron Fist

,

Just a general observation. Even the so-called Moderate Muslims react with variations of this comment. It was especially evident during the Loony Toons Riots, when Mohammedans of all stripes justified the rioting because we had to understand that they were insulted.

Just like Obama justified Wright's anger in his speech.
Maybe Obama is Muslim - he behaves enough like one.

I saw the previews of FITNA on youtube. This really needs to be mainstream. Actually, I'd like to see it shown to troops in basic training. I just watched a private copy of "Persopolis". It was surprising as hell to find it being pirated and sold here. I'd figured some of the beardie wierdies would try to curtail it. Then again, I found a really nice (but expensive) pork butchershop here. Jeez, this place is weird.

re: #81 buzzsawmonkey
I understand your point. But surprisingly enough the pro-Wilders comments on both LiveLeak and Kos this morning are being surprisingly well received. Perhaps only for the reason that you mentioned. Which is sad, but true.

The EU has been (inviting these totalitarians into their countries) and hearing these sermons for twenty years and will no more condemn them than they would their own grandmothers.

In Spain the socialist government pays for the upkeep of mosques, while they tell Catholic churches to shut up.

Fortunately, mullahs put their "word" out on CD and jihadi websites--and like Patton said to Rommel, we've read their book!

Just finished watching FITNA. Dang are these people over here going to be mad once this hits.

I look for more dancing in the streets and singing, boy howdy, how they sing..

Muslim response: The bombings will continue until morale improves.

I don't understand why the mohammedans and their apologists would find 'Fitna' offensive. After all, it is merely a splicing of clips and Koran verses in their own words. If they were actually proud of their heritage, wouldn't they stand by the film?

We need to keep poking them in the eye with their cognitive dissonance until their heads explode.

re: #101 baconeatingkaffir

beardie wierdies

ROFL. I thought that said bearded weenies...

I don't think this film was intended for the big screen. But note that Submission was screened at many churches. The Assemblies Of God in particular library and screen material that reveals the evil of Islam as well as works by Apostates, Christian converts and missionaries to Muslim countries. And that is only one example.

re: #104 Thorfin

Where is "here"?

re: #107 WriterMom

Is there any difference between wierdies and wienies? :)

re: #100 Kosh's Shadow

Maybe Obama is Muslim - he behaves enough like one.

Life and Times of Obama X (updated):

Closest People in His Life ("These people are a part of me"):
Wife, Michele: "Really proud of my country for first time in my adult life" (at age 44)
Pastor, Rev. Wright: God Dxxx America, US of KKKA ("I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother ")
Mom: Atheist, Communist
Dad: foreign Arab Sunni Muslim
Brother, Roy (now Abongo): devout Muslim "He converted to Islam, and has sworn off pork and tobacco and alcohol." the black man must "liberate himself from the poisoning influences of European culture "
Step dad: foreign, devout Muslim
Grandma: "on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe"
Cousin Odinga: involved in killings of hundreds in Kenya after saying his election was "stolen". Plus signed pledge to, within 6 months, re-write the Constitution to implement Sharia law.

Background:
Education: 2 years in a Muslim school, the rest in elite private schools
Church: Racist, Black Separatist
Patriotism: Refuses to wear flag pin, randomly takes hand to heart during Anthem, Declaration of Independence is "stained by this nation’s original sin of slavery"
Drug Preference: Marijuana, liquor and coke "Pot had helped, and booze; maybe a little blow "
Music Preference: The Muslim call to prayer is "one of the prettiest sounds on Earth."
Photo Preference: Somali Muslim garb (think Blackhawk Down)
Boyhood Memories:In an interview with Nicholas Kristof, published in The New York Times, Obama recited the Muslim call to prayer, the Adhan, "with a first-class [Arabic] accent."

According to Islamic scholars, reciting the Shahada (the first 5 lines of the Adhan), the Muslim declaration of faith, makes one a Muslim.

I think that this time we shouldn't be so quick to rescue Europe; maybe let them toil under their facist masters for a few generations. Maybe then there won't be a next time, again.

re: #108 pat

Ezra Levant has a wicked post about the popularity. It's being seen everywhere in the world at an unbelievable rate in the marketplace of ideas. Freedom, baby-it's a beautiful thing.

re: #99 Babydoc97

May I assume that Mr. Wilders is the hands down winner of this year's "Fallaci" award?

The year is still young, but I think he's a contender.

And there are a number of Fiskie contenders showing themselves in their responses to him.

Seems to be minimal seething going on. Perhaps the long run up to the release caused premature seething and they are now spent.

I cannot believe EU did this....

It truly encouraged Muslims to be more violent, seeing that this really worked...

I am afraid Europe is lost.

We need to be vigilant in America.

Yesterday night I attended a local chapter of Act for America, and it was good to see normal citizens concerned about the violence of Islamofascism.

The group's goal is to inform others the danger and to be vigilant and to encourage politicians to take actions. They claimed that Act America has written numerous letters to ACLU regarding their hypocrisy on the Islamic schools in Minnesota paid by taxes...by using analogy if a public school had obligatory lent and obligatory catechism after school on school property and a chapel to boot, ACLU would have raised hell....ACLU has finally acted on it...that is what I heard from the head of the local ACT America...

re: #112 ROP?LOL

FUNNY NIC

Ha!

Like a flood,
itsa-coming,
so..
build ye your metaphorical arks.
Double-time.
~ A message from your Funkle Sam

'All hands on deck, we've run afloat!'
I heard the captain cry
'Explore the ship, replace the cook: let no one leave alive!'
Across the straits, around the Horn:
how far can sailors fly?
A twisted path, our tortured course,
and no one left alive
We sailed for parts unknown to man,
where ships come home to die
No lofty peak, nor fortress bold,
could match our captain's eye
Upon the seventh seasick day
we made our port of call
A sand so white, and sea so blue,
no mortal place at all
We fired the gun, and burnt the mast,
and rowed from ship to shore
The captain cried, we sailors wept:
our tears were tears of joy
Now many moons
and many Junes have passed
since we made land
A salty dog, this seaman's log:
your witness...... ?

my own hand

Land of the big sand

re: #107 WriterMom

ROFL. I thought that said bearded weenies...

lol. /sheeesh. what a dirty mind. ;)

re: #98 CIA Reject

I'll settle for a plaque mounted on a wall at the Pentagon.

re: #106 novanglus

I don't understand why the mohammedans and their apologists would find 'Fitna' offensive. After all, it is merely a splicing of clips and Koran verses in their own words. If they were actually proud of their heritage, wouldn't they stand by the film?

It was all taken out of context
Just like all Dems words

re: #119 Thorfin

Land of the big sand

* * *
Almeria in Al Andalucia? Al Arizona? Al Aztlan?

re: #77 Davidari

You waste time talking to those who are blind and who have no ears.

re: #123 alegrias

Is that also known as "The World's Largest Sandtrap"? hehehe.

re: #121 The Other Les

I'll settle for a plaque mounted on a wall at the Pentagon.

I should hope that the Pentagon learned all it needed to know about Islam 2,390 days ago.

These people never earned their freedom, it was handed to them by the people who fought the Third Reich and the Soviet Empire.

Because of this, they don't think it's worth anything and would hand it to the first group who demands they relinquish it.

There was another time in European history when appearing chic and upper class was more important than survival. In France during the revolution, aristocrats would go to parties and wear red ribbons around their neck to signify they were probably going to go to the guillotine. Ha ha ha, weren't they clever? Instead of fighting or fleeing like functional human beings, they decided being cute was more important than survival.

They also made a big deal out of looking poised while walking up the steps to the head chopper. It's the exact same thing here.

"Stand up for our freedoms? How gauche!"

Phew, I thought I was going to have to accept the idea that people are allowed to vocalize their beliefs and not just keep them in their heads. That was a close one.

re: #81 buzzsawmonkey

He must first get Europe to realise its problem and come to grips with it. Then, and only then, can Europe sympathize with Israel. For then, they will understand what the Israelis go through. Until Europe understands Islamism is the enemy, they will never be able to understand what Israel goes through, and thus, they will continue to side with the Islamists.

Fitna is a step in that direction.

re: #71 Iron Fist

,

Just a general observation. Even the so-called Moderate Muslims react with variations of this comment. It was especially evident during the Loony Toons Riots, when Mohammedans of all stripes justified the rioting because we had to understand that they were insulted.

Duly noted.

Of course when most folks get insulted, they merely state they are insulted. Maybe protest a bit.

Damned few start screaming for someone's head on a platter.

Which came first the rage over being called violent? Or the inherent violence that was pointed out in the movie or was satirized in the cartoons?

believes the film does nothing to promote dialogue among religions.

Because the Islamists are so interested in dialogue.

Mutual tolerance and respect are universal values we should uphold.

Except for the minor detail that the Islamists aren't interested in mutual anything or respect of anything other than their murderous ideology, this sentiment is bang on.

I still cannot believe how many people hide their heads in the sand and think that this will all go away.

The fun is just beginning. We need an American St. John "The Moor Slayer", El Cid or Charles Martel to step forward. Maybe Vlad even.

I was listening to NPR this morning. God knows why. They had the Dutch ambassador to the US on, condemning Geert Wilders and "Fitna".

Totally unbalanced program, Wilders himself or supporters of "Fitna" were not interviewed at all.

Disgusting.

They slobbered all over Marjane Satrapi's "Persepolis" though, which is not a bad film but they put a moonbatty spin on it "things are getting better in Iran".

Guess it is ok by NPR standards for an Iranian woman to criticize the Islamic Republic but not ok for a "Typical White Person" Euro politician to criticize the "Religion of Peace".

But islamists are very tolerent of non-muslim's death needs and respect our proclivity to die when blown up. They also reject the violence to their sensibilities of having to co-exist with Westerners.

They are victims too, say when their sui-belts expode prematurely.

re: #119 Thorfin

Land of the big sand

with plenty of heads buried in it

[Reposted from the Thursday Fitna thread:]

I have it on good authority that the photo mixup in Wilder's Fitna was quite intentional:

Top Notch/PIAS, Salah Edin's record label has released Salah's highly anticipated debut album 'Nederlands Grootste Nachtmerrie' (Holland's Worst Nightmare). The album, which is fully produced by Dr.Dre's right hand man Focus... comes with a bonus DVD and a very controversial front cover.

On the front cover, Salah Edin appears exactly like the mugshot of convicted killer Mohamed B who murdered Dutch columnist Theo van Gogh for his publically outspoken and offensive opinion on Islam.

The front cover has caused another spark of controversy after the release of Salah Edin's first video 'Het Land Van...' which had caused a slew of controversy in media, online forums and even in the Dutch goverment one month earlier.

"This is the way the average white Dutch citizen sees me, as a young Moroccan Muslim radical. That's why I chose to do this picture and use it for the front cover of my album. It is no in way supporting the deeds of Mohamed B", says Salah Edin.

Scroll down to 27-05-2007 l Salah Edin Releases Debut Album, Causes More Controversy, Risks Ban In Retail.
[Link: www.salahedin.com...]

/ ^^^^ wreckless disregard for the truth --on the part of Salah Edin

re: #118 BabbaZee

Like a flood,
itsa-coming,
so..
build ye your metaphorical arks.
Double-time.
~ A message from your Funkle Sam

Oh my. That has been awhile. Saw it live.

“Mutual tolerance and respect are universal values we should uphold."

Muslims too?

re: #72 wrenchwench

My favorite Slovene: Jure Robic.

That was great.

re: #81 buzzsawmonkey

"Buzz" -

Heard & understood. Truthfully, Wilders' greatest contribution IS to have made this film from a European Perspective. The content is little different from "Obsession." However it is more tightly edited and not made by an American. That is its genius. -S-

re: #94 LeftJustAintRight

Will the film hit the big screen in the US ?
Since the Jews control the media and Holywierd I smell an Oscar

"L-JAR" -

Considering the political bent of Hollywood - a SMELL will be as close as Wilders gets to an Oscar.

-S-

OT
Good news...Israel is refusing to let The Elders, Carter, Annon and others meddle in the "peace process". I guess someone over there gets it.

...annnnd we're back

hello? [hello?, hello?, hello?]
is anybody else out there? [body else out there?, body else out there?]

But slow....

kid in a candy store

working now? or is this just another tease?

The Dutch and Slovene leaders these days would probably be glad to be ruled by Nazis......less problems with pesky issues like freedom of speech and multiculturalism....

Cowardice. Its a simple as that.

Seems to be working. Just nobody here.

re: #143 bosforus

...annnnd we're back

So it wasn't just me?

I'm here

Nope

PS: where is here ?

re: #153 Shug

PS: where is here ?

You're not in Kansas anymore, Dorothy.

Have the hamsters finally been fed?

EU springs into action, disappears up it's own ass.....

re: #153 Shug

PS: where is here ?

Welcome to OZ, Dorothy.

Ahhh, back into my favorite easy chair.....

re: #57 Kreuzueber Halbmond

Screw the EU film critics; Siskel and Ebert give fitna 2 thumbs up.

Ummm, liberal film critic Gene Siskel died about 8 years ago, and Roger Ebert's uber-liberal brain has been dead for decades.

I doubt they'd give it 2 thumbs up.

Ahhhhh-- back online!

Still have the jitters.

I finally watched Fitna.

My response to the EU is this:

The government insists that you respect Islam
But Islam has no respect for you

~Geert Wilders

WOW - did everybody lose LGF for a while?

Anyway, "“Mutual tolerance and respect are universal values we should uphold"
Tell it to the jihadists you dope.

re: #161 zombie

Ahhhhh-- back online!

Still have the jitters.

it was a difficult time for all of us

Slovenia, which holds the rotating EU presidency, said it supported the Dutch government’s position and believes the film does nothing to promote dialogue among religions

Don't know about you , but I have a problem having dialogue with those who would gladly cut my throat as part of their 'religion'.
Anyone else ?

The European Union on Friday condemned a new film by a Dutch lawmaker which is critical of Islam Nazism and features controversial images of the Prophet Mohammed.Adolph Hitler.

oiiiil can.

oiiiil can

re: #168 Shug

Howz it today Shug?

re: #164 realwest

WOW - did everybody lose LGF for a while?

Anyway, "“Mutual tolerance and respect are universal values we should uphold"
Tell it to the jihadists you dope.

Yep. I actually got some work done. LOL

tolerance and respect are not part of Islam

Uh, Charles? What happened with LGF - went down for about half an hour or so.

Which part of the film is condemnable?

The actual passages from the Koran or the actual newsclips or the actual statistics shown?

Where truth is condemnable, Islam will flourish.

re: #133 Colonel Panik

I was listening to NPR this morning. God knows why. They had the Dutch ambassador to the US on, condemning Geert Wilders and "Fitna".

Totally unbalanced program, Wilders himself or supporters of "Fitna" were not interviewed at all.

Disgusting.

They slobbered all over Marjane Satrapi's "Persepolis" though, which is not a bad film but they put a moonbatty spin on it "things are getting better in Iran".

Guess it is ok by NPR standards for an Iranian woman to criticize the Islamic Republic but not ok for a "Typical White Person" Euro politician to criticize the "Religion of Peace".

How the hell can you listen to that horseshit on NPR?

THAT WAS SCAWWWY

re: #170 loppyd Well I don't honestly know if that's true of Islam, it IS TRUE of those Muslims who want to kill all of us Infidels though - the "jihadists".
This would be important if it was anyone or anything significant, but it's just the EU so........!

re: #171 realwest

Uh, Charles? What happened with LGF - went down for about half an hour or so.

Plug for the extension cords that run down to the underground lair kicked out the wall at the very moment the hamster were on break.... It apparently was the kid at Starbucks on concourse C that did it this time.

re: #173 Bob in Breckenridge

Bob-tell us how you really feel about National Palestine Radio.

re: #169 coquimbojoe

Howz it today Shug?

fine.

yourself ?

I'm wondering why we have not seen reports of riots and demonstrations by Muslims since this is Friday. Anyone?

“Mutual tolerance and respect are universal values we should uphold."

"We" (meaning civilized society) do uphold those values.

Muslims, on the other hand, do not, which makes your statement false. If everyone does not share a particular value, it's clearly not "universal."

"We believe that acts, such as the above-mentioned film, serve no other purpose than inflaming hatred.”

Just out of curiosity, what purpose did the events depicted in the film serve? Or did it even occur to you to ask that question?

Of course it didn't, little dhimmi...

re: #175 buzzsawmonkey

Some EU clown on NPR this morning, speaking about Fitna, actually said that he "supported free speech, but that doesn't mean you can insult somebody.... unless of course they're Christians.... or Jews"
.

Fixed!

“The European Union and its member states apply the principle of the freedom of speech which is part of our values and traditions. HOWEVER, it should be exercised in a spirit of respect for religious and other beliefs and convictions,” the Slovenian presidency said in a statement.

With a moronic statement like that, he should have the presidency stripped from him. The whole reason freedom of speech exists in the first place was as the new foundation for a post-blasphemy civilization. Saying you have complete freedom of speech EXCEPT when it comes to religion is already the first step back toward the Dark Ages.

Finally watched Fitna this morning. Boy the seething overseas is going to be huge. As they say, whoever they are, The truth hurts. And if the Chechs and the EU shut this down it's a big sign of their dhimmitude.

Christ in a jar of urine is art.

Is Mohammed in a jar of urine also art?

When the site goes down one of two things happen:

1. Work productivity increases briefly

2. Work productivity stays low as people keep hitting " refresh" and staring at an unhappy screen

#2 is most common

re: #173 Bob in Breckenridge

How the hell can you listen to that horseshit on NPR?

My question as well. I can't listen to NPR without consistently arguing with the person on the other side of the radio.

re: #175 buzzsawmonkey

Some EU clown on NPR this morning, speaking about Fitna, actually said that he "supported free speech, but that doesn't mean you can insult somebody."

That is exactly what it means.

Is that analogous to " We should have an Army, but don't expect us to fight"?

re: #179 Shug

Vegas is nice this time of year, only in the 80s, LGF is up, so I am good.

See what happens when LGF goes down. I actually fininshed the project that I've been working on. Now what the hell am I supposed to do next week?

/Dripping

OH and when the EU comes crawling back to the US begging for our help to retake their countries, I'm thinking NO!

re: #177 coquimbojoe

Plug for the extension cords that run down to the underground lair kicked out the wall at the very moment the hamster were on break.... It apparently was the kid at Starbucks on concourse C that did it this time.

That's it fire him.

/maybe we should find a newer outlet with less traffic.

re: #186 oh_dude

Christ in a jar of urine is art.

Is Mohammed in a jar of urine also art?

No, it's medicine

re: #175 buzzsawmonkey Indeed, it's not "Free Speech" if you can't say something provocative.
I swear the dopes - moonbats - are taking over all of Europe.
And didja read about Obama's minister building himself a 10,000 square foot house?! With only four bedrooms, no less.
Wonder what he's gonna do with all that other square footage?

Slovenia or Slavonia?

We believe that acts, such as the above-mentioned film, serve no other purpose than inflaming hatred.

Surely the same argument could be used then to condemn the obsessive coverage of the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse, which surely incited hatred and resulted in the loss of many thousands of lives due to it's use as a recruiting tool for Al Queada.

But it is in excavating the differences between the coverage of Abu Ghraib and the release of Fitna that perhaps clarifies things and shows just hoe utterly empty headed the EU official reaction is.

To begin with Abu Ghraib did not involve murder, in fact it probably did not even rise to torture if that term is meaningfully distinguished from abuse. In contrast the religiously inspired mayhem depicted in Fitna has, if only the most recent period is taken into account, involved the mass slaughter of 100's of thousands of people - the majority of whom have indeed been muslim. Over the longer historical view this slaughter rises to the many many millions - and the connection with the ideology and religion of the perpetrators is hardly accidental. It is at least as direct as the connection between Nazism and it's crimes, or Communism and it's crimes - in so far as in all cases it is easy to see that the foundational texts of themselves mandated what was done in their name (By contrast the manifold crimes commited in the name of Christianity - whether in the many religious wars, inquisitions or Crusades are much harder to connect with Christianities foundational texts - which is why opposition to those crimes has so often used those texts as part of the indictment).

Secondly the position of Lyndie England and her crummy companions is obviously very different from, Say Osama Bin Laden. The former were near universally condemed, punished officially, and measures taken to further ensure that such things would remain as they already were, isloated instances of violations of both custom and law. Bin Laden by contrast was in the wake of his crimes widely hailed as a hero in the Muslim world, and many thousands upon thousands have been inspired to emulate his crimes of mass civilian murder.

Thirdly when the incitement of hatred is spoken of, which hatred and by whom and for what is it that arouses the most concern? Is it the fear that pointing out that the Violent doctrines of Islam produce violent results amongst adherents will incite Europeans to run rampant in an orgy of random violence & bigotry against Muslims as Muslims? Or is it the fear that some Muslims tend to react violently when anyone has the temerity to suggest that their religion seems to have some connection to these violent tenedencies ? Which given even a passing aquaintence with recent events is the more legitimate fear?

And lastly - whereas there was scarcely even a suggestion that the wall to wall coverage of the Abu Ghraib scandal should be suppressed for fear of the cosnequences, Fitna has been subject to varying degreees of pre-emptive censorship sight unseen, and as it is must struggle to find even what distribution it currently enjoys - and certainly legacy media is all but closed to it. And even where it does get ditributed it is accompanied by caveats of non endorsement over and above those that normally apply.

The most empty headed thing of all about the EU position is that it implicitly aknowledges that Wilders film is in substance essentially correct - Islamist violence is a far from accidental product of Islamic doctrine - and this violnence and disorder are a global threat, and a threat to European liberal democratic society. But in aknowledging this the EU's first reaction is that the best thing to do would be to not talk about the problem!

The 15-minute film, titled "Fitna," was posted on a London-based Web site Thursday. It immediately drew criticism from the Dutch Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende, who said the film equates Islam with violence.

Somebody really needs to pull his head out of his arse...!

re: #161 zombie

zombie- Nice job (as usual) on the Iraq war 5 year anniversary pics. I linked to them in my local paper.

re: #186 oh_dude

Christ in a jar of urine is art.

Is Mohammed in a jar of urine also art?

No, that's "hate crime".

/I wish I was being sarcastic.

re: #183 zombie

Hey Zombie, USBeast said to ask you where I can be directed to the videos that were uploaded by him/her.

Where's my fruit cup?

re: #186 oh_dude

Christ in a jar of urine is art.

Is Mohammed in a jar of urine also art?

Offending nice people is the highest form of freedom. Offending not nice people is too scary. They only want negative reactions from people who won't become violent.

re: #163 buzzsawmonkey

True, but he's a shoo-in for the "Film Critic Who Looks the Most Like Michael Moore Pretending to Be a Lesbian" award.

LOL!

re: #185 buzzsawmonkey

that is sick.

re: #197 Johan Wehtje

Don't hold back! Welcome to the party!

re: #188 Honorary Yooper

My question as well. I can't listen to NPR without consistently arguing with the person on the other side of the radio.

Sometimes it's almost uplifting. When you're really feeling down and low, all you have to do is turn it on and you suddenly realize there are people out there far, far more stupid than you could ever aspire to be.

re: #185 buzzsawmonkey WTF is that?! Seriously, y'all ought to call that phone number and ask ole
Luis what he meant by that.

re: #203 Peacekeeper

Where's my fruit cup?

Shhh! LOL is sleeping.

Shovel some more coal on the boiler, mates!

LGF went down because of the terrorist democrats can't have the truth get out there.
The MSM didn't go down did it?
CNN and MSNBC did not go down
Expect more of this in the future

/moonbat off

How long before the idea that Wilders in Jewish or somehow allied to Jewish interests is trotted out, at least in the arab world?

After all, as there are 13 billion mulsims in the world, and they have all the oil, there is no reason for anyone other than Jews to take an anti-muslim stance. Just ask James Baker or Condi.

Similar films have come out before- lengthier, more detailed. They suffered from the fact that they were produced by Jewish groups, and were easy for the mainstream masses to write off or disregard.

God bless Wilders for his courage, and is is nice to see this sort of thing coming from a non-Jewish, non white-supremacy quarter, for a change.

re: #183 zombie

The whole reason freedom of speech exists in the first place was as the new foundation for a post-blasphemy civilization. Saying you have complete freedom of speech EXCEPT when it comes to religion is already the first step back toward the Dark Ages.

His statement is also clearly a lie, because Europeans DO have complete freedom of speech with regard to religion.

What they don't have is freedom of speech with regard to Islam.

re: #199 Bob in Breckenridge

zombie- Nice job (as usual) on the Iraq war 5 year anniversary pics. I linked to them in my local paper.

Really? Do you have a link to your link? Thanks!

Does anyone really care these days what the Dutch think? They became irrelevant some time ago.

The fact that they turned their country over to junkies, prostitutes and Islamofacists says a lot about the Dutch psyche....laziness, ignorance and cowardice....

re: #160 Bob in Breckenridge

Ummm, liberal film critic Gene Siskel died about 8 years ago, and Roger Ebert's uber-liberal brain has been dead for decades.

I doubt they'd give it 2 thumbs up.

I know. It was. A joke.

Being cruel to kind people is necessary to atone for centuries of being cruel to cruel people, to whom we should have been kind all along.

re: #189 Nevergiveup
It is for the French!

re: #206 loppyd
If I may ask, any word on your step father?

We reject this interpretation,” Balkenende said in a statement. “The vast majority of Muslims reject extremism and violence. In fact, the victims are often also Muslims.”

"Do you know how many fine young Muslim Yutes have died practicing putting on their vests?" Balkenende added !

re: #203 Peacekeeper

We are SO beyond fruitcup. Where have you been?

the film equates Islam with violence.

Islam equates Islam with violence.

Should be shown in every western democracy classroom, scr@w the Goracle claptrap.

I hate two things.

1. I hate people who are intolerant of other cultures.

2. and the Dutch

/ from some movie. I forgot which one.

re: #186 oh_dude

Christ in a jar of urine is art.

Is Mohammed in a jar of urine also art?

Of course it is!

And naturally, the Mohammed Image Archive has all your "Piss Mohammed" needs covered:

Piss Mohammed

re: #178 WriterMom

Bob-tell us how you really feel about National Palestine Radio.

To quote Colonel Nathan Jessep: "You can't handle the truth!"

J/K!

Pic of the day

A Palestinian boy wearing a Hamas headband cries during a Hamas rally in Gaza March 28, 2008.

Also see: here

re: #193 Shug

No, it's medicine

Only if it's camel urine.

BTW, it seems that the hamsters have finally had their morning vitamins.

“Mutual tolerance and respect are universal values

actually you need to earn respect, and islam has woefully failed in that department.

re: #221 sattv4u2

We reject this interpretation,” Balkenende said in a statement. “The vast majority of Muslims reject extremism and violence. In fact, the victims are often also Muslims.”

"Do you know how many fine young Muslim Yutes have died practicing putting on their vests?" Balkenende added !

And some of his best friends are Muslim I bet.

re: #228 Killgore Trout

THREADABLE IMHO.

I 'reported' it.

re: #202 saberry0530

Hey Zombie, USBeast said to ask you where I can be directed to the videos that were uploaded by him/her.

Just go to YouTube and search for "zombietimedotcom." Hell -- here.

Most popular one at the moment is Rant Lady.

and a jar of Mohammed's urine is just a good drink.

/hits head.
I coulda had a V-8

re: #221 sattv4u2

In fact, the victims are often also Muslims.

That's right, the daughter or the sister of some Muslim.

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He will fix everything
Fitna will be banned

Without the Dutch, it is unlikely the American Revolution would have survived it's infancy. They were the first to recognize American independence, and for that I will stand by them in their hour of need as they did for my country long ago.

re: #203 Peacekeeper
Sorry PK - but it was all eaten by hungry lizards waiting for LGF to come back up! LOL!
How are you doing today my friend?

re: #187 Shug

When the site goes down one of two things happen:

1. Work productivity increases briefly

2. Work productivity stays low as people keep hitting " refresh" and staring at an unhappy screen

#2 is most common

Guilty as charged, Shug! LOL!

“Mutual tolerance and respect are universal values we should uphold. We believe that acts, such as the above-mentioned film, serve no other purpose than inflaming hatred.”

Great! When do we see it happening in Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran and other Muslim-majority countries? Will we see an end to 'Jihad Rabbit' and the little girl who seethes on camera with him?

re: #228 Killgore Trout

Pic of the day

Also see: here

"What am I doing here? I want my MOMMY!"

/more pali child abuse

re: #188 Honorary Yooper

My question as well. I can't listen to NPR without consistently arguing with the person on the other side of the radio.

I want to strangle them.

re: #236 Alouette

That's right, the daughter or the sister of some Muslim.

The fact that they are totally indifferent to the death of fellow Muslims as they rid the world of infidels is not really a ringing endorsement of Islam!

re: #213 Maine's Michael
"God bless Wilders for his courage, and is is nice to see this sort of thing coming from a non-Jewish, non white-supremacy quarter, for a change."
Amen!

The fact that "decent" Muslims have largely failed to censor, condemn, or ostracize Islamic militants strongly suggests that they are sympathetic.

The militants are the military arm of Islam and it seems that most Islam is quite proud of them. But this is a sneaky war they wage, they know they can't assault the West head on but by increments.

The suicide bomber is already the most cost efficient and effective weapon employed today and every success contributes to the pride of global Islam.

re: #195 realwest

Indeed, it's not "Free Speech" if you can't say something provocative.
I swear the dopes - moonbats - are taking over all of Europe.
And didja read about Obama's minister building himself a 10,000 square foot house?! With only four bedrooms, no less.
Wonder what he's gonna do with all that other square footage?

Host Louis Farrakhan meetings and wait for the Mother Wheel to land.

re: #213 Maine's Michael

Maybe he isn't being called a Jew yet, but he is implied to be an even lower form of life, an agent of the Jews. With proof of his many trips to Israel, etc.

Check his Wikipedia bio.

"Wilders had been regularly meeting officials at the Israeli Embassy in The Hague."

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

re: #216 LionOfDixonUh, just to let you know, the Dutch troops in Afghanistan are pulling their weight over there - unlike the fricking Germans and some other of our NATO "allies".

"However, it should be exercised in a spirit of respect for religious and other beliefs and convictions"

...yeah...umm...that's a crock of shit...

If you think Jesus was a crackpot asshole, go ahead and say so...Whining and crying like pussies about people trying to kill you reeks of a person with no courage, no backbone...someone willing to lay down and be a slave...

submit

...yeah....right...

If you can't win in the realm of ideas, don't think you can shut my mouth because you can't argue a rational, truthful argument against me. Mo was a cocksucking warmongering pedophile only interested in how he could use "the word of God" for his own selfish ends...clergy with big houses do that, don't they?

"Strike terror in their hearts"

...animals *want* to fight...

"Mutual tolerance and respect are universal values we should uphold."

...yes, respect the rapists, respect the murderers, respect the people that want to subjugate you, respect the people that want to enslave you...respect the devil that lies to you and proclaims he only wants peace...

respect the liars, respect the brainwashed...ya fucking moron

re: #180 kolbe

I'm wondering why we have not seen reports of riots and demonstrations by Muslims since this is Friday. Anyone?

I think it`s Saturday on that side of the world.

re: #228 Killgore Trout

Pic of the day
Also see: here

A rather fair-haired Pali child.

re: #234 ploome hineni

because it's out of context/

Ahh ..I understand ..kinda like the good Rev Wright was taken outta context.

/

re: #232 WriterMom
Me too!

re: #217 Kreuzueber Halbmond

I know. It was. A joke.

Ha!

well, it's been good sharing the morning with the lizard army. enjoy the weekend and stay safe. i'm out.

"We believe that acts, such as the above-mentioned film condemning free speech, serve no other purpose than inflaming hatred."

Condemning Wilders's physically harmless exercise of free speech is nothing more than a hollow gesture of pandering to Islamism. OTOH, merely condemning terrorists like Theo Van Gogh's assassin and those screaming for Wilders to be liquidated really doesn't protect anyone other than the terrorists, who really are so very scared of being condemned by the big bad EU.

“Mutual tolerance and respect are universal values we should uphold."

Respect is like currency. You don't uphold the value of it by giving it out freely to all, even those undeserving. That de-values it.
Islam does not deserve respect. Wilder shows some small bit of the evidence why.

re: #254 JammieWearingFool Hey Jammie - I get an "Image not available" at your link!

re: #228 Killgore Trout

Yeah, I'd be crying too if I knew that my future consisted of being indoctrinated into a hateful and vile terrorist group that sees its minions as nothing more than cannon fodder.

re: #254 JammieWearingFool

A rather fair-haired Pali child.

Linkage no workage.

There are actually some red-haired Palestinians, and some "black" (African-style) ones as well.

One presumes the former are descended from Normans that settled in North Africa and later "intermingled" with Arab invaders, who later migrated back east.

re: #253 JHW

Friday evening here - Kabul - and quiet.

re: #220 bigmacdaddy

If I may ask, any word on your step father?

I just heard from my mom. His blood work came back and he is anemic. They think he may have an ulcer and also want to do a colonoscopy to be safe. They are taking him to another hospital (VA) where he will be admitted and more tests will be done.

My mom has already had the year from hell. I feel so sorry for her.

re: #264 LindaMarie

Thanks, that International Dateline kinda confuses me as to local times. Glad it`s quiet there, stay safe and thanks.

re: #132 Thorfin

I still cannot believe how many people hide their heads in the sand and think that this will all go away.

The fun is just beginning. We need an American St. John "The Moor Slayer", El Cid or Charles Martel to step forward. Maybe Vlad even.

You Rang?
That was the whole thought behind my avatar.

re: #238 LeftJustAintRight

FEAR the Obama presidency. The dhimmitude of Europa should serve as a warning here.First fatwah from the Obama will be sensitivity retraining. Ask his bud Gov Patrick of MA.

re: #264 LindaMarie

Friday evening here - Kabul - and quiet.

And surprisingly so, don't you think? I was expecting worse....

re: #265 loppyd

I just heard from my mom. His blood work came back and he is anemic. They think he may have an ulcer and also want to do a colonoscopy to be safe. They are taking him to another hospital (VA) where he will be admitted and more tests will be done.

My mom has already had the year from hell. I feel so sorry for her.

You and yours will be in my thoughts.

re: #259 rappmandu

"We believe that acts, such as the above-mentioned film condemning free speech, serve no other purpose than inflaming hatred."

Condemning Wilders's physically harmless exercise of free speech is nothing more than a hollow gesture of pandering to Islamism. OTOH, merely condemning terrorists like Theo Van Gogh's assassin and those screaming for Wilders to be liquidated really doesn't protect anyone other than the terrorists, who really are so very scared of being condemned by the big bad EU.

Are they afraid/scared of being condemed by the EU? Not sure - maybe or not. Can you explain why you write this?