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Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:21:40 pm PDT

Muslims are seething in Germany over a planned stage production of Salman Rushdie’s Satanic Verses—the dreaded unreadable novel of blasphemy.

BERLIN (Reuters) - A German Muslim group said on Friday protests were likely against the first ever staging of a dramatized version of Salman Rushdie’s controversial book “The Satanic Verses” in Potsdam near Berlin on Sunday.

Nurhan Soykan, spokeswoman for the central council of Muslims in Germany, told Reuters Muslims believed in a free press and freedom of opinion.

BUT even this has its boundaries,” she said. “We’re worried that provocations and insults against us have increased recently. I wouldn’t want to ban (the play) BUT you can bet on protests from Muslim people. They can’t be expected to put up with everything.”

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1 LeePro  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:23:25pm

Ahhh.
Seething.

2 DesertSage  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:23:38pm

They're angry? What else is new?

3 ted  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:23:45pm

Yawn

4 hayseed  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:23:56pm

when are Muslims not pissed off?

5 FrogMarch  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:24:03pm

Those are some BIG BUTS.

6 jcm  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:24:07pm

BUT you can bet on protestscarBQs, rock throwing, and other restive behavior from Muslim people.

7 jcm  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:24:41pm

re: #5 FrogMarch

Those are some BIG BUTS.

Getting cheeky aren't we.

8 FrogMarch  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:24:41pm

Religion of the perpetual hissy fit.

9 markie  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:24:49pm

EVERYTHING upsets them. And what about what WE have to put up with...?

10 vapig  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:24:58pm
"They can’t be expected to put up with everything.”

They put up with nothing - they even seethe over "perceived" insults.

11 DesertSage  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:25:21pm

Muslim anger will subside when Barack H. Obama is elected.

12 EC Marm  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:25:27pm

Wouldn't it be 'German Muslims Angry'?
Pedantic, I know...

13 Bard  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:25:40pm

It's all right if you tone down the emphasis a little, there, Charles. Abrupt font changes tend to make the perpetrator look kind of unbalanced.

14 CIA Reject  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:25:42pm

"...you can bet on protests from Muslim people. They can’t be expected to put up with everything.”

Lighten up, Francis!

15 Cannadian club Akbar  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:25:43pm

Oh STFU! But give us a time so we can watch the riots. I love a good bonfire.

16 WrathofG-d  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:25:47pm

Criminals are people too and if you continue to point out their committing of crimes they are going to be forced to break the law in response.

17 ted  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:26:10pm

re: #5 FrogMarch

Those are some BIG BUTS.

Yeah...Where did Stinky dig them up?

[npi]

18 vapig  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:26:35pm
#12 EC Marm 3/28/08 5:25:27 pm reply quote report 0

Wouldn't it be 'German Muslims Angry'?
Pedantic, I know...

I saw that, but thought the goddess should point it out...

19 SlartyBartfast  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:27:31pm

"They can’t be expected to put up with everything anything.”

/everybody saw that coming, didn't ya?

20 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:28:09pm

They can’t be expected to put up with everyanything.

21 jcm  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:28:26pm

Are there any Muslims that aren't angry?

22 Cap'n DOC  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:28:48pm

Dang, Slarty...

23 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:28:49pm

Offended Muslim Syndrome, triggered by the West being the West.

24 wildcat84  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:28:51pm

The ROP'ers can't seem to be expected to put up with anything.
When is the truth going to sink in that islam isn't a religion, but is a political movement like the nazis, fascists, or communists?

25 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:28:58pm

re: #4 hayseed

when are Muslims not pissed off?

never. even if they ruled the world, they would be p.o'ed. it's the nature of the beast.

26 Big_Iron  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:29:57pm

But if you want to show "The last Temptation of Jesus", "Monty Python's Life of Brian", or some such work of "art" we "Peace Loving" followers of the "Pedophile Prophet" will be very happy to let you.

27 1SG(ret)  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:30:15pm

Yo German Muslims, you'uns aren't in France you bipwads. The German Police have this little stick that goes thump about 40 times when swug once. You want proof, come down to my place. Go ahead screw up in Germany, make their day, that is if they haven't changed much in recent years.

Top

28 Idle Drifter  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:30:17pm

Seething, I thought I heard bacon.

29 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:31:03pm

re: #28 Idle Drifter

Seething, I thought I heard bacon.

mmm,, Bacon !

30 stevieray  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:31:06pm

Its really simple, folks.

Infidels are free do to what Allah has allowed [halal], and are prohibited to do what Allah has prohibited [haram].

So all you need to do, to get along in the Brave New Europe, is live like a Muslim! See..? Easy as pie!

The same rules for everybody... what could be fairer?!?!

///

31 Shug  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:31:06pm

They can’t be expected to put up with everything.” anything

/how do you say Fixed in German ?

32 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:31:16pm

Christians should riot just for shits abd giggles. We'll show 'em...

33 Ben-Ami  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:31:22pm

re: #20 Cap'n DOC

They can’t be expected to put up with everyanything.

Maybe they'll get so mad that they'll stop trying to destroy the West's values and go somewhere where they can live more fulfilling, peaceful Muslim lives. Or maybe they'll get so mad that their heads explode.

Six of one, 1/2 dozen of the other...

34 Fo knee ix  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:31:40pm

Re: Potential Offendees
If you don't want to be offended, don't go to the theater, or read the book. In fact, why don't you just go back to Turkey and whatever other crap-hole wannabe Caliphate countries you came from and make all of our lives a lot easier.

35 Shug  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:31:48pm

re: #20 Cap'n DOC

GMTA

36 CIA Reject  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:31:53pm

re: #31 Shug

They can’t be expected to put up with everything.” anything

/how do you say Fixed in German ?

Kaput!

37 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:31:58pm

re: #31 Shug

They can’t be expected to put up with everything.” anything

/how do you say Fixed in German ?

VolksWagon ?

38 WrathofG-d  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:32:05pm

Long live Piss Jesus.

39 Noam Sayin'  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:32:07pm

I've attempted to read Satanic Verses. I don't think I made it through the first chapter.

Anyone here finish it?

40 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:32:11pm

and...PIMF

41 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:33:27pm

re: #39 Noam Sayin'

I've attempted to read Satanic Verses. I don't think I made it through the first chapter.

Anyone here finish it?

I was finished with it about 3 pages into it ,, does that count ?

42 BulgarWheat  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:34:06pm

re: #27 1SG(ret)

Top, the first thing they tell you when you fly into Rhein-Mein, when the Polizei says halt, that means right fricking now! Not one more step.

Some skulls might get cracked if these yoots go ahead with their plan.

The Polizei don't dick around.

43 sc13ntific  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:34:17pm

Change the last word

EVERYTHING

to

ANYTHING

and its a little closer to the truth

44 spikester  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:34:19pm

People! People! People!
This Free Speech shit HAS to end!

45 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:35:15pm

Hey Europe,

Ash HaduAllaa Ilaaha Il-lallaah Wa Ash Hadu Anna Muhammadar Rasullulah

/get it over with already

46 Tasty Beverage  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:35:21pm

re: #39 Noam Sayin'

I've attempted to read Satanic Verses. I don't think I made it through the first chapter.

Anyone here finish it?

I did, but I admit I don't remember too much of it. The one guy (that I liked) transforming into satan or a demon, the other guy becoming beautiful, one of them getting caught jerking off by his dad as a child, hmm...

That's about it.

47 ec marm  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:35:30pm

I'm sure 'Salman Rushdie' would have wanted to comment on this but Stinky blocked his account. :~(

Salman Rushdie
This user is blocked.
Registered since: Jul 21, 2007 at 6:00 pm

48 nyc redneck  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:35:44pm

re: #32 Cannadian Club Akbar

Christians should riot just for shits abd giggles. We'll show 'em...

that's happened in europe before. and not just for shits and goggles. heads rolled. wonder if the jihadis are familiar w/ that part of european history.

49 Crimsonfisted  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:35:50pm

re: #32 Cannadian Club Akbar

Christians should riot just for shits abd giggles. We'll show 'em...

What would that look like? Old ladies in hats making a potluck supper? A bake sale? A rummage sale in the church rectory? A quilt show? An art show? Bible readings at dawn?

50 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:36:27pm

re: #46 Tasty Beverage

I did, but I admit I don't remember too much of it. The one guy (that I liked) transforming into satan or a demon, the other guy becoming beautiful, one of them getting caught jerking off by his dad as a child, hmm...

That's about it.

I think I saw that movie , wasn't Ron Jeremy in it ?

51 Nevergiveup  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:36:28pm

re: #21 jcm

Are there any Muslims that aren't angry?

Dead ones?

52 BulgarWheat  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:36:52pm

re: #46 Tasty Beverage

Talk about fiction, no father ever caught his kick pulling the pope. Dad's abruptly turn around, excuse themselves, and it's never discussed again.

heh

53 NR Pax  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:37:10pm
"believed in a free press and freedom of opinion, but even this has its boundaries,”

You want boundaries? Start with the ones in free countries and put yourself on the other side of them. And look at it this way, sweetheart: You can go back whatever Muslim country would fit your morals better, BUT you probably won't like your lack of freedoms there.

Frigging ingrates.

54 spikester  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:37:15pm

re: #51 Nevergiveup

That's right. The dead ones are PISSED!

55 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:37:38pm

re: #31 Shug

They can’t be expected to put up with everything.” anything

/how do you say Fixed in German ?

Repariert.

56 Nevergiveup  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:38:01pm

re: #54 spikester

That's right. The dead ones are PISSED!

That's because they found out the 72 virgins was bullshit!

57 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:38:20pm

re: #51 Nevergiveup

Dead ones?

WRONG , ,they are downright PISSED ,,, they found out there aren't any virgins aftre all !

58 Iron Fist[deleted]  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:38:22pm
59 spikester  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:38:29pm

re: #56 Nevergiveup

That would piss me off!

60 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:38:34pm

re: #56 Nevergiveup

GMTA

61 eff  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:39:04pm

I'd better reboot. I think I'm having font problems.

;- )

62 Crimsonfisted  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:39:09pm

re: #56 Nevergiveup

That's because they found out the 72 virgins was bullshit!

They are the 72 Virginians. Thomas Jefferson et al.

Beating the crap out of them for eternity with the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

63 Edouard  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:39:47pm
"You can bet on protests from Muslim people. They can’t be expected to put up with everything."

Oh please. I've known soap bubbles with thicker skin.

The problem is that they actually expect to put up with nothing.

64 Nevergiveup  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:40:29pm

re: #62 Crimsonfisted

They are the 72 Virginians. Thomas Jefferson et al.

Beating the crap out of them for eternity with the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

Or 72 highly decorated fallen Marines.

65 Shr_Nfr  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:40:29pm

re: #41 sattv4u2

That's about 3 more pages than any of the SM (Seething Muslim) crowd has read of it. Its kicking around in my stack of books to read, I might have a go at it, but if it reads like the Hadith, it is indeed going to be a long go. Damn but is alBukari tedious.

66 Render  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:40:56pm

I can't believe nobody's done this yet.

BECAUSE
I
CAN,
R

67 CIA Reject  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:41:02pm

re: #41 sattv4u2

I was finished with it about 3 pages into it ,, does that count ?

You know, that's the funny part about the whole thing. From everything I've heard the book is absolutely awful. So you gotta believe that a play based on the book would really suck and, left unto itself in a free market would run for maybe what, 2 or three days tops?

But now these yokels get all ticked off and seething and wanna start riots so what's gonna happen? The theater will be packed with people who want to see what all the fuss is about. If these morons would just chill out the play would die a quiet natural death!

Oh, and the Polezei will kick ass...

68 Tasty Beverage  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:41:03pm

re: #50 sattv4u2

re: #52 BulgarWheat

LOL

69 1SG(ret)  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:41:14pm

re: #42 BulgarWheat

Top, the first thing they tell you when you fly into Rhein-Mein, when the Polizei says halt, that means right fricking now! Not one more step.

Some skulls might get cracked if these yoots go ahead with their plan.

The Polizei don't dick around.

Your are right on that. They always said I'd learn new shit in Germany prior to my first tour in 1977. Took me about two weeks to learn, a) if a fight breaks out in a bar that you aren't part of leave NOW, b) if you don't leave on your own quick you will wake up in a German jail, and c) there is meaning to knock them all out and sort it out later. I was slow, but I did learn quick.

Top

70 St. Pancake  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:41:21pm

Nice theater.
The Hans Otto Theater

Cool name for an actor also.
Cookbook...

71 abu_garcia  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:42:23pm

If one had hope for Europe, one would hope that the Muslims would raise as much holy hell as possible so that the Europeans would wake up to the danger in their midst.

If one had hope.

72 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:42:36pm

re: #66 Render

I can't believe nobody's done this yet.

BECAUSE
I
CAN,
R

/the bigger the cushion . . .

73 vapig  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:42:55pm
#56 Nevergiveup 3/28/08 5:38:01 pm reply quote report 0

re: #54 spikester

That's right. The dead ones are PISSED!

That's because they found out the 72 virgins was bullshit!

Actually, they found out it was raisins. They were pretty po'd when they got to hell and stan tossed them a box of sunmaid.

74 CIA Reject  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:43:16pm

re: #56 Nevergiveup

That's because they found out the 72 virgins was bullshit!

They found out the 72 virgins were 72 other guys just like them!

75 Nevergiveup  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:43:33pm

A slight digression. This gut Curry on Davidson is lightening up the court against Wisconsin in the sweet sixteen. 57- 45 Davidson.

76 ec marm  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:44:09pm

The funny thing about the Satanic Verses is that when Salman Rushdie reads it, it makes perfect sense. I've tried to read it myself, but always fall asleep.
I had a link to a YouTube video of that, but they pulled it. Bastids.

77 Shug  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:44:25pm

re: #61 eff

I'd better reboot. I think I'm having font problems.

;- )

and hair problems

78 Sol Roth  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:44:36pm

re: #38 WrathofG-d

Long live Piss Jesus.

I'm offended. Moreover, I'm offended that I'm offended.

/

79 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:44:39pm

Islam.

/God's cruel joke on over one billion people

80 jaunte  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:44:45pm

When your religious ideology teaches that you 'should' be lord and master of all the unfaithful you survey, but those same 'should-be-slaves' persist in living their own lives, having their own thoughts, and doing whatever they want without considering you, it's a terrible blow to your ego.

/suck it up, tough it out; we're not changing to suit you.

81 Jeffrey Nihart  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:45:45pm

There Is No "Palestine"
And There Are No "Palestinians"

Jeffrey Nihart

82 So?  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:45:48pm

Keep the heat on the Islamonazis. Fire it up. More movies like Fitna. More plays like the Satanic verses. More documentaries like Obsession. More books. Expose this EVIL that exists among decent human beings who inhabit this precious planet and value the sanctity of life. Who see beauty in God's gift. Not murderous lust. And joy in spilled blood and beheadings.

83 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:47:02pm

I hate to see pluses on deleted comments.

84 BulgarWheat  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:47:54pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

I missed that one. I've noticed so many people who also never post, but spend all of their time dinging down.

85 ec marm  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:48:16pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

I hate to see pluses on deleted comments.


Iron Fist, what can you say?

86 Killgore Trout  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:49:08pm

re: #84 BulgarWheat

Yeah, there's a lot of that. I've had ding stalkers who ding all my links but have never posted a comment. Very annoying.

87 Crimsonfisted  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:49:29pm

re: #64 Nevergiveup

Or 72 highly decorated fallen Marines.

God bless them. Amen.

88 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:49:30pm

re: #79 Killian Bundy

Islam.

/God's cruel joke mistake on over one billion people

/Repariert

89 infidel4ever  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:49:38pm

Yeah, BUT, BUT, BUT. Oh brother...

And in the Netherlands politicians and Muslims keep on bleating about "hurt feelings because of Fitna". Boo hoo. And we are now complimenting Muslims because they are NOT seething! Sheesh...

Meanwhile, at least some of our "youth" have stayed true to form and the first carbeques have taken place. Two cars burned in Utrecht, and graffiti appeared on doors, walls and containers. "Death to Wilders" and "Fitna Maasplein (name of a square) Hamas" seem to have been the favorite literary expressions.

AND I made the mistake of getting into a "discussion" with a moonbat (yes, we have them too, lots and lots!) who thought I was very unreasonable, Islam was so much younger than other religions and we just needed to give them time to catch up.

Such a pity strangling people is against the law...

90 WhiteRasta  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:49:48pm

re: #81 Jeffrey Nihart

Oh hush you mouth!


///Sarc///

91 Kirly  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:50:11pm

oh look! Charles has exposed the German Muslim BUT Monkeys!

lozers.

92 eff  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:51:56pm

#77 Shug:

Babba Booey! Babba Booey!

93 Ben-Ami  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:52:06pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

I hate to see pluses on deleted comments.

OK, stupid question: how do posts get deleted?

94 Ojoe  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:54:01pm

Visualize no islam.

If you want peace fight for victory.

95 Charles  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:54:36pm

re: #93 Ben-Ami

OK, stupid question: how do posts get deleted?

One way is that I delete them.

96 sattv4u2  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:55:14pm

re: #95 Charles

One way is that I delete them.

I shudder at what the 'other" way is !

97 shibumi  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:55:19pm

re: #39 Noam Sayin'

I've attempted to read Satanic Verses. I don't think I made it through the first chapter.

Anyone here finish it?

I couldn't get past the first few pages. It was, IMHO, completely unreadable. And I tried. I really did.

My question is...who would want to make a play out of that claptrap? If it's to be provocative and upset Muslims, adapt one of Robert Spenser's books.

98 Irish Rose  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:55:21pm
“We’re worried that provocations and insults against us have increased recently".

You should be.

It's not going to stop, either.

People who live in freedom are tired of having to kowtow to your fragile Islamic sensibilities.

This is a big wide world, and you have share it with others... like it or not.

Maybe Islam is your answer, but its' not OUR answer.

Get over yourselves.

99 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:56:49pm

re: #53 NR Pax

You want boundaries? Start with the ones in free countries and put yourself on the other side of them. And look at it this way, sweetheart: You can go back whatever Muslim country would fit your morals better, BUT you probably won't like your lack of freedoms there.

Frigging ingrates.

"NRP" -

Even in the US there is the Doctrine of "Yelling Fire in a Crowded Theater."
Problem is - the ISLAMISTS ARE A CROWDED THEATER! Draw your conclusions from that. -S-

100 Ben-Ami  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:56:58pm

re: #95 Charles

One way is that I delete them.

Well, that makes sense.

Are posts also automatically deleted after getting a certain number of dings?

101 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:57:53pm

re: #64 Nevergiveup

Or 72 highly decorated fallen Marines.

N-G-U -

"BOOYAH" - That is all.

-S-

102 ladycatnip  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 5:58:02pm
“We’re worried that provocations and insults against us have increased recently.

Really? When and where?

103 Natasha  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:01:54pm

They come to a country that is not theirs... They mooch off the system... Then they piss and moan about the way that country is organized? WTF... Yo, "yoots of indeterminate origin", if you hate it this much, go back to your indeterminate homeland.

104 cookielady  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:03:05pm
“We’re worried that provocations and insults against us have increased recently.

Once again I will ask: if you think that a play or a 15-minute film or a comment or quote is a provocation, what is it you think you are being provoked to do?

105 Irish Rose  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:04:02pm

re: #95 Charles

One way is that I delete them.

The hamsters eat the other ones.

106 Killian Bundy  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:05:46pm

Just how [expletive deleted] up is Islamic culture?

/let's Ask Imam!

107 NR Pax  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:07:09pm

re: #99 Dr. Shalit

"NRP" -

Even in the US there is the Doctrine of "Yelling Fire in a Crowded Theater."
Problem is - the ISLAMISTS ARE A CROWDED THEATER! Draw your conclusions from that. -S-

Very true. And the best way to handle the crowded theater is to escort them out.

108 Ben-Ami  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:07:23pm

re: #101 Dr. Shalit

N-G-U -

Non-gonococcal urethritis?

109 Ben-Ami  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:08:19pm

re: #108 Ben-Ami

Oh, never mind. I get it. Duh!

110 DanVanSmak  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:13:26pm

At what point does the West get pissed and say no more bombings? No more riots? No more mass immigration? No more attempts to force your version of how things should be? No more attempts to, as Fitna's creator eloquently says, dissolve freedoms via Islamization? Evidently the West is not there yet, as we see elsewhere on this blog, that leftists Euroweenies are apologizing for Fitna...sheesh. Apologize? No. Kapitulaten? Nein! "Achtung Islam if you riot" should be the order of the day. I hope the play is a huge success. And I agree with others here who said it previously. We need more works critical of Islam, not less of them. *out*

111 Kosh's Shadow  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:14:27pm

I bought The Satanic Verses. As Charles says, they are unreadable.
I might have gotten a couple of pages in to it. And I've read all of Moby Dick. And various other over-long novels.

112 bitsy  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:22:26pm

I only read SV because the guy had a fatwa on his head. I bought it as a protest act. The writing style is ... unique. But after a few pages you get used to the style, and the plot picks up. I actually really liked it by the end. The critique of Islam is pretty damn mild. If that gets you seething, I can't imagine why their heads haven't exploded a long time ago.

I wonder if anyone has compiled a fatwa worthy reading list?

113 bitsy  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:23:49pm

re: #83 Killgore Trout

Maybe they were plussing that it got deleted?

114 bitsy  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:27:27pm

re: #91 Kirly

oh look! Charles has exposed the German Muslim BUT Monkeys!

lozers.

I dunno. My bitsy sense tells me not to click that link. What's a lozer anyway? Is it anythin like a lozenge? Or maybe a pozer? Did you know pozer means DANGER in czech? I always thought that was cool.

115 infidelia  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:31:03pm

re: #10 vapig

They put up with nothing - they even seethe over "perceived" insults.

We have to put up with THEM. Now that is something to complain about.

116 bcgirl  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:33:09pm

Nurhan Soykan,... spokeswoman for the central council of Muslims in Germany, and insults against us have increased recently. I wouldn’t want to ban (the play) BUT you can bet on protests from Muslim people. They can’t be expected to put up with everything.”

EVERYTHING? Since when do seething muslims put up with ANYTHING? PLllUUHHHEEEAAASSSEEE

117 Promethea  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:34:44pm

re: #39 Noam Sayin'

I've attempted to read Satanic Verses. I don't think I made it through the first chapter.

Anyone here finish it?

I found it in the bookstore, thinking that I might buy it. BUT while flipping through it, I decided that it looked quite boring and not worth my time.

If Seething Muslims had any brains, they would shut their mouths and this boring book would go out of print. However, they don't, and it won't.

118 _Felix  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:44:51pm

I disagree with the the gist of what she's saying, BUT are you against nuanced arguments? Posts like this where you just put the word "but" in bold irritate me. What if she'd said "we support free speech, BUT randomly shouting fire in a crowded cinema is beyond the pale"?

I see you're drawing attention to her disingenuous words, BUT you're making me nervous to use that particular conjunction in any argument, as if all such arguments were invalid.

119 Charles  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:46:49pm

re: #118 _Felix

Sometimes we really need to pay attention to the BUTs.

120 _Felix  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:50:34pm

re: #119 Charles

Actually I think we need to pay attention to the words immediately following the BUTs. So nerr.

121 Promethea  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:52:01pm

re: #118 _Felix

Since so much of MSM writing is cliche, a good way to find out what the writer wants you to remember is to find the "buts." When reading the paper, I actually circle the "buts" so I can see at a glance where the writer is going after he/she drags in the quotations from people he doesn't support.

Saves time.

122 jjmckay1216  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:53:14pm

re: #75 Nevergiveup

Stephan Curry...Dell Curry's son. Dell lit up the NBA, also

123 _Felix  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 6:54:35pm

re: #121 Promethea

Ha, yes. Those kind of articles are a great deal more irritating than anything Charles ever posted.

But still...

124 wolfie  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 7:05:24pm

DAVIDSON YES!

125 swabbie41  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 7:12:45pm

"...They can’t be expected to put up with everything.”

Nor can we expect to put up with flying planes into buildings, bombing train stations, bombing buses, oh...and my personal favorite, strapping on a bomb and detonating yourself in a crowded mall full of children.

126 OtherBrotherDarrell  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 7:24:55pm
Muslims are seething in Germany

Hitler lost! Get over it.

127 darkster2400  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 7:27:01pm

Well, I'm seething that I can't get a good pastrami sandwich in Atlantic Canada...

128 arcatan  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 7:30:44pm

The Left has mastered manufactured indignation to seize the pretended moral high ground of victimhood. Now it's Islams turn.

129 twiggman  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 7:42:13pm

The more they are up-set the happier I get...

130 Maximu§  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 8:07:46pm

you can bet on protests from Muslim people. They can’t be expected to put up with everything.”

Put up with everything? Muslims don't put up with Anything!

131 Mardukhai  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 8:14:24pm

Charles is right about the novel, however. I couldn't get past page two.

My 12 year old daughter, however, loved it.

But then, she reads Balzac for fun.

132 anotherindyfilmguy  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 8:17:59pm
BUT you can bet on protests from Muslim people. They can’t be expected to put up with everyanything


Fixed it...

133 luckygirl  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 8:44:28pm

I am in New York and just saw Spamalot tonight. Priests and nuns dancing it up, gay marriage, song that resounds "You'll never make it on Broadway without a Jew", a voice of god (John Cleese ) that curses "Jesus!", dirty Frenchmen etc. Everyone in the audience could find a reason to be offended but I believe all just laughed. I believe that humor requires intelligence. And ya know... even apes laugh. Ok, that "unsaid-remaining-unsaid"... I would like to include one of my favorite quotes (the author of which I am ashamed to say that I do not know) ... "Those who take offense where none is intended are fools. And those who take offense where offense is intended are even bigger fools."

134 luckygirl  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 8:50:43pm

Alas. I hate posting on dead threads. I am beginning to fear that I bear a curse.

135 aussie_dave  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 9:20:32pm

"They can’t be expected to put up with everything.”

Well actually it seems they can't be expected to put up with ANYTHING

136 rorschach  Fri, Mar 28, 2008 10:41:39pm

islam

small i

small minds

137 blueboy  Sat, Mar 29, 2008 12:11:13am

Weren't the 'rage' infected in the movie 28 Days Later just muslim converts?

138 Gaius Obvious  Sat, Mar 29, 2008 12:48:03am
"I wouldn’t want to ban (the play) BUT you can bet on protests from Muslim people. They can’t be expected to put up with everything.”


Did you catch the implied racism (religionism?) there? Part of the end of that last sentence was dropped off. Let's finish it: "They can’t be expected to put up with everything ... like normal people." "They can’t be expected to put up with everything ... like we can." "They can’t be expected to put up with everything ... because they are so less advanced than you and I." "They can’t be expected to put up with everything ... like Christians do." And so forth. Why is there an expectation among certain liberals that Muslims are any less capable of acting like normal rational human beings than anyone else?

139 Annar  Sat, Mar 29, 2008 4:15:51am

I guess the German translator was not assassinated. The Satanic verses would be difficult to understand if one is not well versed in Islam so it would be interesting to see what they did to make the play accessible to ordinary play goers.

I don't expect a Broadway production soon.

140 Ben-Ami  Sat, Mar 29, 2008 4:24:30am

re: #138 Gaius Obvious

Did you catch the implied racism (religionism?) there? Part of the end of that last sentence was dropped off. Let's finish it: "They can’t be expected to put up with everything ... like normal people." "They can’t be expected to put up with everything ... like we can." "They can’t be expected to put up with everything ... because they are so less advanced than you and I." "They can’t be expected to put up with everything ... like Christians do." And so forth. Why is there an expectation among certain liberals that Muslims are any less capable of acting like normal rational human beings than anyone else?

Exactly. The West, according to the Left, MUST put up with anything that comes down the pike, including changing our laws and culture in order to accomodate the Other. But people outside the West, especially Moslems, CAN'T put up with anything different.

141 Sacred Plants  Sat, Mar 29, 2008 6:59:05am

re: #42 BulgarWheat

Top, the first thing they tell you when you fly into Rhein-Mein, when the Polizei says halt, that means right fricking now! Not one more step.

Some skulls might get cracked if these yoots go ahead with their plan.

The Polizei don't dick around.

It´s true that cops without name tags tend to get aroused more quickly, but it´s also true that teams unfamiliar with the concept of individual responsibilty are deterred by Al Jazeera crews more quickly. I´d put this as such, if German Muslims really manage to organise a protest rally, the Fox crew is more likely to capture antisemitic banners than police beatings.

142 Dad O' Blondes  Sat, Mar 29, 2008 8:35:23am

German Muslims Angry ?

Yawn. Who cares? They're always angry.

How about a story about ANGRY WHITE MEN in North America seething and rioting over affronts to Christianity in the middle east?

Now that would be a story.

.

143 AuntAcid  Sat, Mar 29, 2008 10:07:33am

"They can’t be expected to put up with everything.”
Yah right! This from a culture that encourages buggery. You make me laugh, you morons.

144 baslimthecripple  Sat, Mar 29, 2008 10:10:39am

re: #106 Killian Bundy

Try this one instead.
[Link: iowahawk.typepad.com...]


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