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The Lies of Barack Obama

Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 8:30:46 am PDT

The Obama campaign has made political points over Hillary Clinton’s dishonest comments about coming under “sniper fire” in Bosnia, but Obama also has some opportunistic lies for which to account. The Washington Post calls it “overstating,” but make no mistake; this is a flat-out lie: Obama Overstates Kennedys’ Role in Helping His Father.

Addressing civil rights activists in Selma, Ala., a year ago, Sen. Barack Obama traced his “very existence” to the generosity of the Kennedy family, which he said paid for his Kenyan father to travel to America on a student scholarship and thus meet his Kansan mother.

The Camelot connection has become part of the mythology surrounding Obama’s bid for the Democratic presidential nomination. After Caroline Kennedy endorsed his candidacy in January, Newsweek commentator Jonathan Alter reported that she had been struck by the extraordinary way in which “history replays itself” and by how “two generations of two families — separated by distance, culture and wealth — can intersect in strange and wonderful ways.”

It is a touching story — but the key details are either untrue or grossly oversimplified.

Contrary to Obama’s claims in speeches in January at American University and in Selma last year, the Kennedy family did not provide the funding for a September 1959 airlift of 81 Kenyan students to the United States that included Obama’s father. According to historical records and interviews with participants, the Kennedys were first approached for support for the program nearly a year later, in July 1960. The family responded with a $100,000 donation, most of which went to pay for a second airlift in September 1960.

Obama spokesman Bill Burton acknowledged yesterday that the senator from Illinois had erred in crediting the Kennedy family with a role in his father’s arrival in the United States. He said the Kennedy involvement in the Kenya student program apparently “started 48 years ago, not 49 years ago as Obama has mistakenly suggested in the past.”

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1 JamesTKirk  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:31:54am

It's only a "lie" when it's said by someone the MSM doesn't like.

2 LionOfDixon  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:31:59am

The Audacity of just making sh*t up.......

3 JamesTKirk  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:32:08am

re: #1 JamesTKirk

(I think they teach that in Journalism 101.)

4 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:32:15am

Serpentine, Barack! Serpentine!

5 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:32:32am

If we're going to list them all, this is going to be a VERY lloooonngg thread!

6 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:32:59am

Is this as bad as Hillary's lie about being under fire?

7 JamesTKirk  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:33:08am

re: #2 LionOfDixon

The Audacity of just making sh*t up.......

8 BulgarWheat  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:33:17am

re: #2 LionOfDixon

that's got a ring to it.

could be a rotating title someday

9 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:33:28am

re: #5 Grammy Cracker

If we're going to list them all, this is going to be a VERY lloooonngg thread!

So many lies, so little time.

10 LionOfDixon  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:33:30am

Perhaps it was an anonymous Bosnian sniper that donated the money.

11 Ojoe  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:33:44am

Presidents need to be able to distinguish fact from fiction.

12 ModerateWolverine  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:33:52am

I thought I was going to get to give it a "woohooo comment #1!"

Good luck with that...but in the meantime, you can enjoy this other lie.

13 Teacake!  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:33:52am

Another disturbing comment he made a week or so ago was saying something to the effect that he wanted to meet with all the arab leaders to let them know he wanted to help them with their aspirations.... code word I assume, how to get rid of Israel.... and hopefully not meant to be aiding in their aspirations of global domination. A very loaded statement that I've heard no news group comment on.

14 JohnnyReb  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:33:58am

How can any politician tell a "fib" and not expect it to be found out in this day and age?

I mean come seriously, this whole "intertube" thingy does work both ways. Like I said before, no one on Obama's staff even thought to check out his churchs website and now even more stuff?

He must have hired a bunch of dummies or just "yes" people.

15 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:33:58am

re: #10 LionOfDixon

Perhaps it was an anonymous Bosnian sniper that donated the money.

LOL!

16 BulgarWheat  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:34:04am

re: #10 LionOfDixon

I doubt it. She was only 8 at the time.

17 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:34:09am

Although this is pretty weak tea compared to Hillary's sniper story, to be frank.

Barack's much bigger whopper is that he was somehow unaware of his pastor's radical agenda... for 20 years.

18 JamesTKirk  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:34:10am

re: #11 Ojoe

Presidents need to be able to distinguish fact from fiction.

Pity none of the candidates fit that description.

19 mj  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:34:12am

He also lied about being a law professor:

[Link: blogs.suntimes.com...]

20 Ben Hur  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:34:21am

BLASPHEEEEEEEEEEEEEMER!

21 MandyManners  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:35:26am

re: #14 JohnnyReb

How can any politician tell a "fib" and not expect it to be found out in this day and age?

I mean come seriously, this whole "intertube" thingy does work both ways. Like I said before, no one on Obama's staff even thought to check out his churchs website and now even more stuff?

He must have hired a bunch of dummies or just "yes" people.

They believe his twaddle so much that they simply cannot fathom the idea that someone's gonna' fact-check his ass.

22 JamesTKirk  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:35:36am

re: #14 JohnnyReb

How can any politician tell a "fib" and not expect it to be found out in this day and age?

I mean come seriously, this whole "intertube" thingy does work both ways. Like I said before, no one on Obama's staff even thought to check out his churchs website and now even more stuff?

He must have hired a bunch of dummies or just "yes" people.

The world has changed, and they still haven't come to grips with that fact yet.

23 mj  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:37:10am

More Obama lies:

Obama claimed credit for nuclear leak legislation that never passed.
Obama misspoke about his being conceived because of Selma.

Sen. Obama took too much credit for his community organizing efforts.

Obama's assertion that nobody had indications Rezko was engaging in wrongdoing 'strains credulity.' "

Obama was forced to revise his assertion that lobbyists 'won't work in my White House.'

'Selective, embellished and out-of-context quotes from newspapers pump up Obama's health plan.'

Sen. Obama said 'I passed a law that put Illinois on a path to universal coverage,' but Obama health care legislation merely set up a task force.

'Obama...seemed to exaggerate the legislative progress he made' on ethics reform.

Obama drastically overstated Kansas tornado deaths during campaign appearance.

[Link: www.hillaryclinton.com...]

24 JohnnyReb  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:37:13am

re: #22 JamesTKirk


That is the only explanation that even comes close to making sense.

25 JamesTKirk  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:37:30am

re: #12 ModerateWolverine

I thought I was going to get to give it a "woohooo comment #1!"

Could thing you didn't. We have rules about that sort of thing here.

26 x-ray  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:38:13am

Baraks next speech.

Hope is not a Lie
Change is not a lie
It is only the typical white mans constant need to have written records that is the lie.
The black culture is an oral one that is more in line with nature.
Who are you going to believe? Me or those mean White people.

27 JamesTKirk  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:38:43am

re: #24 JohnnyReb

That is the only explanation that even comes close to making sense.

You'd think the Republicans would be smarter, since they're already used to being fact-checked by a hostile media, but they still slip up too often, too.

28 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:39:59am

re: #22 JamesTKirk

The world has changed, and they still haven't come to grips with that fact yet.

I've been astonished about this same phenomenon, ever since I invented the Internet.

29 LionOfDixon  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:40:03am

OBAMA'S CHICKENS...............ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST!

(shouted in meolodramatic, preaching tones while whirling frenzied parishioners into an even higher lather)

30 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:40:46am

More egregious is the Obama's lowballing of contributions to him made by Rezko and his patent lie that he hears no evil while attending his racist church.

31 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:42:03am

"Look, my grandma lies all the time, too, so what's the big deal?"

32 Grammy Cracker  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:42:05am

re: #29 LionOfDixon

OBAMA'S CHICKENS...............ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST!

(shouted in meolodramatic, preaching tones while whirling frenzied parishioners into an even higher lather)

Love it! Love your avatar, too. He always looked best in jeans, boots and a cowboy hat.

/missing him more every day....

33 zombie  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:42:29am

Lies lies lies lies
Steaming baldface lies!
Isn't it outrageous?
Obama thrives on lies.

(Sung to the tune of "Goober Peas.")

34 Maine's Michael  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:42:50am

'Lies From My Father.'

(how much linger before he throws Dad under the bus to hook up with Granny)

35 FrogMarch  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:42:50am

Democrats pad their resumes? Democrats lie? I had no idea.

/

I'll still take Obama over "we're going to take things away from you for the common good" Hillary Clinton and her/their long history of lies.

[Link: www.slate.com...]

[Link: article.nationalreview.com...]

36 Silhouette  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:43:44am

Read the whole thing.

He also implied his parents met at Selma. Then tried to backpeddle that they met in the movement that happened because of Selma. But he was born 4 years previous.

His parents, like Hillary's, were clairvoyant.

37 loppyd  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:43:57am

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

He is toast.

If he gets the nomination (which I still highly doubt) the 527s will be all over all of this, Wright, Rezko, the lapel pin, not standing for the anthem, his middle name which we are not supposed to utter, etc.....

38 chinesearithmetic  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:44:05am

Jonathan Alter, he played you like Hendrix on a ukelele.

39 MJ  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:44:27am

re: #34 Maine's Michael

'Lies From My Father.'

(how much linger before he throws Dad under the bus to hook up with Granny)

He threw his father under a bus a long time ago though it sounds as if the guy belonged there.

40 gop_patriot  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:44:33am
After Caroline Kennedy endorsed his candidacy in January, Newsweek commentator Jonathan Alter reported that she had been struck by the extraordinary way in which “history replays itself” and by how “two generations of two families — separated by distance, culture and wealth — can intersect in strange and wonderful ways.”

So even Caroline and her people didn't bother to look it up to make sure it was true before spouting off about it? What is wrong with people?

And where did Obama get the whole idea; did his mom or another person tell him this lie when he was growing up, or did he look it up and decide to lie, or ? Geez, if you're going to run for POTUS, and stand on a stage and posture and lecture people about how they should live their lives, wouldn't it be a good idea to know about your own?

Audacity, indeed.

41 kellino  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:44:38am

I saw this yesterday and found it interesting. "overstated" indeed.

A quick OT for Charles:

The Mac OS X lost the hacking contest for the 2nd year in a row. Last year it took 90 minutes, this year only 2 minutes to hack the Mac.

[Link: www.computerworld.com...]

IMO, the Mac is the least secure platform, but once exposed to the "real world", Windows is the least secure platform. This is because the malware writers only write for Windows. But the Mac is far easier for a hacker to break into.

Mac users are safer from malware and worms as few are written for the Mac, but they continue to be the easiest to hack and compromise.

42 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:44:44am

re: #35 FrogMarch

I'll still take Obama over "we're going to take things away from you for the common good" Hillary Clinton

Obama ain't exactly a libertarian, either...

43 macintush  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:45:45am

A presidential candidate who exaggerates? Whodathunkit? Next thing you know, Hillary will start claiming people shot at her on an airport tarmac, and John McCain will claim to be a conservative.

44 alegrias  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:45:55am

That Kenyan Airlift program was inaugurated by the Eisenhower-Nixon Republican administration in 1959!

Republicans airlifted Kenyans!
The Party of Lincoln airlifted Kenyans.

(NOT the grievance & kwetsching party of defeatism & sectarianism)

45 JamesTKirk  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:46:45am

Lies, Lies, Lies - They're gonna get you!

46 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:46:53am

Will the real Obama please stand up...

To avoid being mistaken for such a sellout, I chose my friends carefully: the more politically active black students, the foreign students, the Chicanos, the Marxist professors and structural feminists, and punk rock performance poets. We smoked cigarettes and wore leather jackets. At night in the dorms, we discussed neocolonialism, Frantz Fanon, Euro-centrism, and patriarchy. When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet, or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting Bourgeois society’s stifling constraints. We weren’t indifferent or careless or insecure. We were alienated. -Barak Hussein Obama, Dreams of My Father

47 amphibian  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:47:01am

What, Hussein lying? Really?

Not news, really, at least to the denizens of LGF. Me, I wouldn't trust Ears farther than I could throw him. With 50 lb. of diving weights in his pockets.

48 Maine's Michael  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:47:19am

re: #39 MJ

He threw his father under a bus a long time ago though it sounds as if the guy belonged there.


They all belong there, my friend. They all do.

49 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:47:36am

Sorry to say, American voters cares little about honesty in our politicians.This guy has more than a good chance of being elected,baggage and all.

50 Killian Bundy  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:47:58am

Obama had greater role on liberal survey

During his first run for elected office, Barack Obama played a greater role than his aides now acknowledge in crafting liberal stands on gun control, the death penalty and abortion — positions that appear at odds with the more moderate image he has projected during his presidential campaign.

The evidence comes from an amended version of an Illinois voter group’s detailed questionnaire, filed under his name during his 1996 bid for a state Senate seat.

Late last year, in response to a Politico story about Obama’s answers to the original questionnaire, his aides said he “never saw or approved” the questionnaire.

They asserted the responses were filled out by a campaign aide who “unintentionally mischaracterize[d] his position.”

But a Politico examination determined that Obama was actually interviewed about the issues on the questionnaire by the liberal Chicago nonprofit group that issued it. And it found that Obama — the day after sitting for the interview — filed an amended version of the questionnaire, which appears to contain Obama’s own handwritten notes added to one answer.

/ruh roh, busted again

51 Cap'n DOC  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:48:12am

Fake but accurate.

52 republic  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:48:35am

All one has to do is listen to what comes out of Barack Hussein Obama's mouth, and watch his actions, to know that he is a pathological liar, and nothing more.

Not my opinion, his own words and actions.

53 Maine's Michael  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:49:03am

Pray for McCain's health, and his good judgment to keep well clear of Colin Powell and St. Condi of the Amalekites when picking his admin.

54 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:49:09am

Manchurian Candidate
Egypt Paid his fathers way
Egypt paid his tuition in school
And he is the anti-christ


/hope I am wrong

55 storagemanager  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:49:14am

WASHINGTON (AP) - Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar is backing Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama.
Klobuchar became the second female senator to endorse Obama for president. She said Obama represents the kind of change she ran on.

Klobuchar joins Missouri Sen. Claire McCaskill, who endorsed Obama in January. Overall, Obama has the support of 13 senators, all superdelegates who could help decide the election.

Obama rival Hillary Rodham Clinton also has the support of 13 senators, including six women.

Klobuchar says she doesn't agree with some Obama supporters who say it's time for Clinton to drop out. She says that Clinton has run a strong campaign and should remain in the race.

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

56 Silhouette  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:49:14am

re: #30 vagabond trader

More egregious is the Obama's lowballing of contributions to him made by Rezko and his patent lie that he hears no evil while attending his racist church.

He wasn't there that day; he was at a meeting of the Klan La Raza.

57 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:49:57am
“two generations of two families — separated by distance, culture and wealth — can intersect in strange and wonderful ways.”

The Kennedys endorsing Obama... it's like... Harry Potter being airlifted to Narnia!

/swoon

58 JamesTKirk  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:50:18am

Q. How do you know when Obama is lying?
A. His lips are moving.

/An oldie but a goodie.

59 brent  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:50:32am

I'm glad you all brought up Selma, too ... That's such a typical, opportunistic Clinton-kinda lie, that I'm surprised Bill himself didn't point it out.

If I cock my head just right, I can still hear him talking about the churches he saw burning as a child, growing up in Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood....

60 alegrias  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:51:39am

re: #43 macintush

A presidential candidate who exaggerates? Whodathunkit? Next thing you know, Hillary will start claiming people shot at her on an airport tarmac, and John McCain will claim to be a conservative.


* * *
When it comes to the War on Terror, McCain is conservative in that he wants to WIN, not lose & skulk away from a difficult situation.

So if winning war is a conservative goal, McCain is really old-fashioned in that way.

And yes, his grandfather John Sidney McCain died in uniform, hours after bringing Japan to sign surrender papers on that carrier deck in 1945.

61 Maine's Michael  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:51:42am

This is a relatively minor issue, though.

With all the elephants standing in Barack Hussein's room, why are we focusing on the flies?

62 zombie  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:51:56am

re: #41 kellino

I saw this yesterday and found it interesting. "overstated" indeed.

A quick OT for Charles:

The Mac OS X lost the hacking contest for the 2nd year in a row. Last year it took 90 minutes, this year only 2 minutes to hack the Mac.

[Link: www.computerworld.com...]

IMO, the Mac is the least secure platform, but once exposed to the "real world", Windows is the least secure platform. This is because the malware writers only write for Windows. But the Mac is far easier for a hacker to break into.

Mac users are safer from malware and worms as few are written for the Mac, but they continue to be the easiest to hack and compromise.

Eh. If you read the article, it says this:

Yesterday, the computers' exposure to attack was expanded by allowing hackers to go after any client-side applications installed by default, including Web browsers. Contestants were also allowed to replicate the common tactic of duping a user into following a link in an e-mail or visiting a malicious Web site. In Miller's case, he had set up a malicious Web site; the URL to that site was typed into Safari's address bar.

That's rather extreme rules. I think one could do the same to any browser - -but (as the article reveals) the guy who did it is on an anti-Apple crusade, so he purposely targetted Safari.

63 gop_patriot  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:51:58am

re: #57 Occasional Reader

re: #59 brent

Awesome, y'all are on a roll this morning. +1s all around.

64 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:52:16am

I'm not surprised or shocked to see Obama caught lying. Again. It's what politicians do. He's not particularly good at it either despite his campaign's premise to hope and change everything or that he's a different kind of politician.

He's just a below average legislator who still has no accomplishments to his name.

65 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:52:37am

re: #53 Maine's Michael

McCain is going to be portrayed as being joined at the hip with Bush. He had better come out with some strong anti Obama policy if he really wants to win.Beginning to wonder if he is up for it.

66 macintush  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:52:44am

re: #41 kellino

OT Mac reply: I'm spending the week camping out with the boy scouts near Inverness, Florida, under a campsite tent with my powerbook, using a very-weak signal to get a connection on my Sprint wireless card.

The PC users here would be checking their email and browsing their blogs, too, but they cant seem to get their Sprint and Verizon cards to find the network I'm on. I guess, in a little while, I'll click two buttons in system prefs and share my cellular network with them over wifi.

OTOH, I won't be clicking any phishing links, which is the only way the 'experienced hackers' were able to get access to any of this years' computers.

Things are getting more secure across the board.

67 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:53:11am

So
I finally use the spinoff thingo and people are dinging me down LOL

Related to post
A Middle East Peace Initiative for President Obama

TO
those who dinged this down:

I did not post it becasue I AGREE with it

I posted it so you could see WTF these assholes are saying at their own blog

I figured that was self evident
but I guess not

which is why I like to post where I can comment as well

68 Bloodnok  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:53:49am

re: #55 storagemanager

[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

Wow, that's some brave fence-sitting. Way to take a stand, Amy. It just goes to show the national shrug that is the Democrat party right now.

69 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:53:53am

Lying and deceiving is in the Koran
He is just doing his Jihad Job

70 turn  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:54:10am

re: #64 lawhawk

Hey, congrats on the InstaPundit link.

71 Silhouette  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:54:18am

re: #61 Maine's Michael

This is a relatively minor issue, though.

With all the elephants standing in Barack Hussein's room, why are we focusing on the flies?

It is like Dean's "Arrrgggg". I'd rather the country reject his communist, America-hating, surrender viewpoints, but if they see the light on flat out lying, it is better than nothing.

The Al Capone tax-evasion thing.

72 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:54:52am

Strangely enough, the dinger down names are entirely unknown out here......

Way to expose the socks!

LOL

73 alegrias  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:54:55am

re: #53 Maine's Michael

Pray for McCain's health, and his good judgment to keep well clear of Colin Powell and St. Condi of the Amalekites when picking his admin.

* * *
McCain's mother is 96, still drives, travels around the world half the year, and has the energy of 5 people. She breaks hips and keeps on trekking. Pray McCain takes after his 96 year old Mother's side of the family, healthwise.

74 Sean  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:54:56am
IMO, the Mac is the least secure platform, but once exposed to the "real world", Windows is the least secure platform. This is because the malware writers only write for Windows. But the Mac is far easier for a hacker to break into.

Zombie, I'm thinking Linux a lot lately. Anyone know what distributuion to recommend?

75 NYexpat  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:55:13am

This little bit of stroking of the Kennedy ego paid off, with most of them endorsing him. I'm sure it isn't as simple as all that, but still. Anyway, a lot of reporters still piss themselves when Obama speaks, so negative press is going to be rare for a while yet. I was watching a commercial for Kron4 (SF) where the reporter was positively gushing about the opportunity to cover his campaign, admitting that it would be difficult for him to be objective about it.

76 MJ  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:55:55am

re: #67 BabbaZee

So
I finally use the spinoff thingo and people are dinging me down LOL

Related to post
A Middle East Peace Initiative for President Obama

TO
those who dinged this down:

I did not post it becasue I AGREE with it

I posted it so you could see WTF these assholes are saying at their own blog

I figured that was self evident
but I guess not

which is why I like to post where I can comment as well

From your link:
"That is because Israel is constituted as a "Jewish state", which means that that it puts what it considers to be the safety and security and rights of Jews above human rights. "

I guess this means Jews aren't included in the human family. Where have we heard this before?

77 zombie  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:56:01am

re: #67 BabbaZee

But you CAN comment in the spinoff links. Use the "Title" to write something descriptive (Don't use the default headline of the article you're linking to) and use the "description" to write whatever you'd write in a comment here.

That's the way I do it. Works very well!

78 Silhouette  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:56:30am

My mother always brings up that the Kennedy's made their wealth on bootlegging during Prohibition. Hell, that's the only thing I LIKE about them.

79 alegrias  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:56:34am

re: #53 Maine's Michael

Pray for McCain's health, and his good judgment to keep well clear of Colin Powell and St. Condi of the Amalekites when picking his admin.

* * *
Yeechhh, at one point Colin Powell was a McCain campaign advisor. He & Richard Armitage should be tossed--for cowardice and lack of candor concerning Valerie Pflame, whom Armitage leaked about.

80 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:56:42am

re: #77 zombie

But you CAN comment in the spinoff links. Use the "Title" to write something descriptive (Don't use the default headline of the article you're linking to) and use the "description" to write whatever you'd write in a comment here.

That's the way I do it. Works very well!

Ah
I just used it to put a quote from the article so that people could see if they were interested in reading it.....

81 sparrowlake  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:56:47am

re: #54 LeftJustAintRight

Manchurian Candidate
Egypt Paid his fathers way
Egypt paid his tuition in school
And he is the anti-christ


/hope I am wrong


Sleeper Cell?

82 blutonazi98  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:56:55am

you guys just don't get it. it doesn't matter if Obama lies or has no experience or is a wildcard with no background information....

when he talks he speaks right to your soul and that is worth something!

/overheard at a recent family birthday party by a certain 5yr veteran lizard's grandmother

83 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:56:58am

re: #76 MJ

My point EXACTLY

84 zombie  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:57:20am

re: #74 Sean

Zombie, I'm thinking Linux a lot lately. Anyone know what distributuion to recommend?

I don't know thing one about Linux. Sorry!

85 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:57:58am

re: #78 Silhouette

My mother always brings up that the Kennedy's made their wealth on bootlegging during Prohibition. Hell, that's the only thing I LIKE about them.

Heh.

I will say, thought, that for all his faults, JFK was a fierce Cold Warrior, loved this country, and believed in it. He would not recognize the current Democratic Party.

86 turn  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:58:00am

re: #75 NYexpat

I didn't know mean Chris Matthews was on Kron4 ...

87 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:58:13am

re: #79 alegrias

* * *
Yeechhh, at one point Colin Powell was a McCain campaign advisor. He & Richard Armitage should be tossed--for cowardice and lack of candor concerning Valerie Pflame, whom Armitage leaked about.

Baker already approves of him.
Same old Same old.

88 NoSubmission  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:58:17am

Unfortunately the Liar still has a 10-point lead on Hillary.

89 JamesTKirk  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:58:53am

re: #71 Silhouette

It is like Dean's "Arrrgggg". I'd rather the country reject his communist, America-hating, surrender viewpoints, but if they see the light on flat out lying, it is better than nothing.

The Al Capone tax-evasion thing.

Or the Bill Clinton impeachment. There were so many better things to impeach him over.

90 storagemanager  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:59:11am

re: #72 BabbaZee

Strangely enough, the dinger down names are entirely unknown out here......

Way to expose the socks!

LOL

Ding Babba up...

91 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:59:17am

re: #88 NoSubmission

Unfortunately the Liar still has a 10-point lead on Hillary.

It just doesn't matter. He will never be president.

92 JamesTKirk  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 8:59:35am

re: #73 alegrias

McCain's mother is 96, still drives, travels around the world half the year, and has the energy of 5 people. She breaks hips and keeps on trekking.

*snort*

93 cblesz  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:00:00am

The Mainstream media is ALL OVER THIS! Sure they are. If you listen carefully, you can hear the crickets. The second coming of Christ would never lie...NEVER!

94 gop_patriot  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:00:05am

re: #67 BabbaZee

I dinged you up and commented. I knew what you meant by sharing this with LGF.

95 NoSubmission  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:00:14am

re: #91 BabbaZee

It just doesn't matter. He will never be president.


I'll try to take comfort in that. Meanwhile voter nullification is the wave of the future.

96 Sean  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:00:20am
I don't know thing one about Linux. Sorry!

That's my problem, too. I think it may be time to learn. I'm not happy with XP, Vista, IE7(What a turd!) and all the crapola that goes with MS anything. I miss the Wild West Frontier attitude of computing in the 70's. Monopolies suck.

97 LeftJustAintRight  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:00:25am

re: #81 sparrowlake


Sleeper Cell?


Or something like it
His ties to Farrakhan and the mentors are to much coincidence for me

98 sparrowlake  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:00:53am

re: #67 BabbaZee

So
I finally use the spinoff thingo and people are dinging me down LOL

Related to post
A Middle East Peace Initiative for President Obama

TO
those who dinged this down:

I did not post it becasue I AGREE with it

I posted it so you could see WTF these assholes are saying at their own blog

I figured that was self evident
but I guess not

which is why I like to post where I can comment as well

lol. Don't Ding Me Down.

99 JamesTKirk  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:01:16am

re: #88 NoSubmission

Unfortunately the Liar still has a 10-point lead on Hillary.

The Liar is leading the Liar?

100 alegrias  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:01:17am

re: #65 vagabond trader

McCain is going to be portrayed as being joined at the hip with Bush. He had better come out with some strong anti Obama policy if he really wants to win.Beginning to wonder if he is up for it.

* * *
The MEDIA pointed out for years how McCain was ANTI-Bush. It's in the record.

Media flip flopping 180 degrees to morph McCain from maverick to Bush twin is Marxist rewriting of history.

Must Disappear Maverick McCain's History down media memory hole!

101 Ward Cleaver  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:01:35am

re: #17 Occasional Reader

Although this is pretty weak tea compared to Hillary's sniper story, to be frank.

Barack's much bigger whopper is that he was somehow unaware of his pastor's radical agenda... for 20 years.

He has narcolepsy, and slept through all the controversial stuff.

102 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:01:37am

re: #90 storagemanager

Ding Babba up...

I really don't give a ding.
Only reason I posted out here on it is maybe they are not socks, but newbies, and they don't have sense enough to realize why I posted it ?
Then again, maybe not.
But thanks, anyway, LOL!

103 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:01:46am

re: #70 turn

Thanks!

104 zombie  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:02:07am

re: #80 BabbaZee

Ah
I just used it to put a quote from the article so that people could see if they were interested in reading it.....

That's also possible. But in a case like this, where you don't like the content of the article, write your own opinions there. (And of course you can write your own opinions AND quote from the article too!)

Here's how I might have done it in the Spinoff Links:

Asshole Obama supporter suggest Jews aren't human in a posting ON OBAMA's OWN SITE.

(Then, in the description section):

"Check out this posting on the Obama MyBlogs site, with a crazy rant by so-and-so who says this: ... (etc.)"

105 Silhouette  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:02:08am

re: #96 Sean

Monopolies suck.

I was very suprised to read that an XM-Sirius merger was approved.

106 bulwrk  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:02:11am

re: #46 Kenneth

When we ground out our cigarettes in the hallway carpet, or set our stereos so loud that the walls began to shake, we were resisting Bourgeois society’s stifling constraints.


No, you were senselessly destroying school property and inconsiderately annoying your neighbors.

107 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:02:40am

re: #94 gop_patriot

I dinged you up and commented. I knew what you meant by sharing this with LGF.

Oh no there's comments in there now too
I forgot about that

GAH!

thanks
Now to figure out how to get in there to see those comments


Now I know why I stayed away from that accursed newfangled hooplelinker
LOL

108 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:03:19am

re: #65 vagabond trader

McCain is going to be portrayed as being joined at the hip with Bush. He had better come out with some strong anti Obama policy if he really wants to win.Beginning to wonder if he is up for it.

I think McCain is being smart, more or less standing aside from the Dem's internecine mudslinging. Let them weaken each other, then he can take on the survivor from what will at least appear to be the high road.

109 Sean  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:03:23am
The MEDIA pointed out for years how McCain was ANTI-Bush. It's in the record.

The drugs that the "Progressives" did or are still doing messed up long term memory. They believe all of us have the same problem.

110 macintush  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:03:27am

re: #74 Sean

Since I haven't ponied up for an Intel Apple laptop just yet (got an Intel Mac Mini at home) I can't dual boot with Windows and OS X on this computer. I do have YellowDog Linux on the second partition, beside my OS X partition, and I like it allright. I would probably pursue Ubunto on a fresh computer, though, because it seems to be todays' popular, and most well documented and supported distribution.

111 TheEnergyAnalyst  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:03:47am

That the guy is a liar goes without saying--his interview with Fox before his "Gettysburg-esque" speech on race proved that. The idea that he is just another socialist democrat with "great ideas" on what to do with MY money scares me. His naivete on global matters is laughable. But on this bombshell, put me in the category of WHO CARES! I don't care if Noah orchestrated his father's exodus from Kenya it doesn't change what he is!

112 Kreuzueber Halbmond  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:03:47am
the senator from Illinois had erred

I like the word 'lied' better. Camelot was a fairy tale. Obamalot is a lie.

113 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:03:56am

re: #100 alegrias

All they have to do is harp on his support of the war, which a majority of voters do not care for.

114 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:04:17am

re: #104 zombie

That's also possible. But in a case like this, where you don't like the content of the article, write your own opinions there. (And of course you can write your own opinions AND quote from the article too!)

Here's how I might have done it in the Spinoff Links:

Asshole Obama supporter suggest Jews aren't human in a posting ON OBAMA's OWN SITE.

(Then, in the description section):

"Check out this posting on the Obama MyBlogs site, with a crazy rant by so-and-so who says this: ... (etc.)"

You are right
But I think my spinoff links career is now over, lol
too much trouble!
I'll just link in here like I have been forever


that is, till Charles beats me for it.

115 gop_patriot  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:04:29am

re: #107 BabbaZee

LOL! Just click on the little blue number to the right of your spinoff link. In fact, you can just hover and see part of it. :)

116 lawhawk  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:05:05am

Lies, misrepresentations, and misunderestimations of factual content.

Whatever your phrasing, it's still a lie.

117 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:05:07am

re: #98 sparrowlake

Ahahahaaa perfect

118 gop_patriot  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:05:12am

re: #108 Occasional Reader

I think McCain is being smart, more or less standing aside from the Dem's internecine mudslinging. Let them weaken each other, then he can take on the survivor from what will at least appear to be the high road.

That's what it appears to me that he's doing, also. Good idea, if so.

119 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:05:18am
120 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:05:26am

re: #115 gop_patriot

LOL! Just click on the little blue number to the right of your spinoff link. In fact, you can just hover and see part of it. :)

Thanks! You are merciful and beneficent!

121 alegrias  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:06:52am

re: #85 Occasional Reader

Heh.

I will say, thought, that for all his faults, JFK was a fierce Cold Warrior, loved this country, and believed in it. He would not recognize the current Democratic Party.

* * *
If JFK was so fierce a Cold Warrior, why did he botch the Bay of Pigs invasion against Fidel Castro 90 miles off the US shore?

JFK couldn't even launch an okkupayshun of Cuba with all the kings horses & all the kings men!

JFK blinked and we're still paying for it.

(Ok, I grant you Cubans are finally getting cell phones, microwaves and access to their own hotels as of this week)

122 WriterMom  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:06:54am

re: #10 LionOfDixon
haahahaha

123 Sean  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:06:58am

re: #105 Silhouette

Are you a customer? I'm not. I still don't get why their business plan went forward..

It will face hard competition from greater wireless broadband access. Digital data nets will impact all media very hard.

124 Silhouette  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:07:30am

Bush mistakingly suggested, people died?

125 zombie  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:08:09am

re: #114 BabbaZee

It's EFFORTLESS to see the comments. Just click on the comment counter on the lower right of your link!

You go to a whole new thread that's just your posting (and its comments)!

Try it -- it's like having your own blog-within-a-blog on LGF.

Once you get used to it, you will like it for sure.

126 Sean  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:09:12am

re: #110 macintush

I can remember to look for Ubuntu. I am ready to create a "Test-box"

127 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:09:45am

GOP thanks.... I got in there.
only one negative ding left LOL
OK ....Sol Roth ?
ya shoulda known better
the rest of them?
WTF.
LOL


#125 zombie 3/31/08

Once you get used to it, you will like it for sure.


huffa puffa, I have trouble enough keeping up with the thread I am on.... LOL!

128 Sol Roth  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:10:08am

A Leftist Politician distorts reality. I'm dumbfounded in a Typical Whitey way.

129 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:10:49am

re: #121 alegrias

why did he botch the Bay of Pigs invasion against Fidel Castro 90 miles off the US shore?

Hey, even Reagan had has "botch" days.

At least JFK recognized communism as a threat, and was willing to fight it. Try to imagine a President today doing the equivalent of what JFK did during the Cuban Missile Crisis. That took serious BALLS. Make no mistake.

130 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:10:50am

re: #108 Occasional Reader

I agree with this tactic at present,but the aloof gentleman politician isn't going to get him elected with this silver tongued liar causing women to faint and journalists to get all tingly. Meanwhile I see little in the MSM about the Obama BS and much overblown coverage of Hil's imaginary Bosnian adventure.

131 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:11:05am

re: #128 Sol Roth

A Leftist Politician distorts reality. I'm dumbfounded in a Typical Whitey way.

But you are not a whitey
you are a savage Hebrew
just ask whitey

132 alegrias  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:11:29am

re: #82 blutonazi98

you guys just don't get it. it doesn't matter if Obama lies or has no experience or is a wildcard with no background information....

when he talks he speaks right to your soul and that is worth something!

/overheard at a recent family birthday party by a certain 5yr veteran lizard's grandmother

* * *
Mike Huckabee the Baptist Pastor (who was also a twelve-year governor) also 'spoke to people's souls.'
Mercifully most people can tell the difference between someone who fulfills their souls versus someone capable of being their commander in chief.

133 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:12:21am

re: #129 Occasional Reader

His father and my GGF were both gangsters and likely knew each other in a business sense.
Therefore I declare that I am qualified to be president.

lol

134 Silhouette  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:13:06am

re: #123 Sean

Are you a customer?

Sirius for about two years now. I'm not terribly worried because if prices rise beyond what I am willing to exchange for the service, I can yank it. It's just radio. My biggest worry is that they'll merge formats and I'll have to reset all my buttons.

My capitalist heart balks at government interfering in business, and to me a true monopoly is when it is illegal for another company to even do business (like the ban some states have on sales of caskets by anyone other than funeral homes - gov enforced monopoly), but if there was every a time to step in and encourage competition, this would be it.

135 Sol Roth  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:13:08am

re: #2 LionOfDixon

The Audacity of just making sh*t up.......

LOL!

136 kellino  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:13:25am

re: #62 zombie

That's rather extreme rules. I think one could do the same to any browser - -but (as the article reveals) the guy who did it is on an anti-Apple crusade, so he purposely targetted Safari.

Agreed that this could be done to many browsers. However a case can be made that Safari is the least secure (see last weeks CERT bulletins).

Also at the end of the article they admit that they feel that they could have compromised Ubuntu or Vista as well, but in the beginning of the article, they said the decision to focus on Mac was because "it was the easiest of the three".

I'm not sure about the anti-Apple crusade that you see but my larger point was that Windows (especially Vista) is not necessarily systemically less secure than other platforms. Windows may however be, practically less secure, becuase this is where the malware is.

If you remove the malware from the equation, which platform is easier to compromise? At the very least one has to recognize that the gap would be much closer than is commonly percieved.

One often hears sentiment like "M$FT can't write a secure OS" and I think that such sentiment misses the mark.

137 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:13:49am

re: #130 vagabond trader

but the aloof gentleman politician isn't going to get him elected

If he jumps in now, he's painted as a Big Republican Meanie. Let Hillary take the shots at Obamessiah for now.

138 x-ray  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:14:13am

re: #133 BabbaZee

His father and my GGF were both gangsters and likely knew each other in a business sense.
Therefore I declare that I am qualified to be president.

lol

A vote for Babazee is a vote to be free!

139 Sean  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:14:23am

re: #132 alegrias

That comment by Grandma is one of the scariest frakking things about Obama!
Anybody checked his scalp for birthmarks? Does he have Rottweilers with glowing eyes as pets?

140 maddogg  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:14:33am

I am certainly glad I am not, and never was a Democrat. Look at your choices for president, An empty suit and an empty pantsuit. I am sure many will vote Republican, just as when Reagan ran against Jimmah.

The only candidate the Republicans fielded in the same class was.........unoho.

141 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:14:45am

re: #133 BabbaZee

Therefore I declare that I am qualified to be president.

Oh, we already knew that.

Damn, but you'd make for one INTERESTING presidency.

142 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:15:22am
143 Sol Roth  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:15:35am

re: #131 BabbaZee

Who said I was Hebrew? Maybe I'm just a meme of the character played by Edward G. Robinson.

Don't promote me yet...

144 gop_patriot  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:16:34am

re: #127 BabbaZee

You know, maybe they were dinging the article, and not your posting of it.
LOL

It's a tough decision sometimes- do I ding down the article (if it's full of anti-semitic junk) or ding up the poster for sharing? Gah! Decisions decisions.

Sometimes discretion (not dinging) is the better part of valor.
;)

145 Silhouette  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:16:55am

re: #142 BabbaZee

LOL

Vote fah me and I'll set ya free!

I want someone who says "Vote for me and I'll leave you the hell alone."

146 BulgarWheat  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:17:09am

re: #121 alegrias

they unfortunately don't have any money to afford any of those things. ironic, is it not

147 Alouette  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:17:36am

re: #67 BabbaZee

So
I finally use the spinoff thingo and people are dinging me down LOL

Related to post
A Middle East Peace Initiative for President Obama

Hey, don't look at me.

148 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:17:42am

Y'all ready for a little good news?

Young Americans have a reverence for national institutions, traditions and family values, a U.S. survey indicates.

A survey of so-called "millennials" -- those between 21 and 29 -- revealed the group overwhelmingly said they support monogamy, marriage, the U.S. Constitution and the military, The Washington Times reported Sunday.

hat tip: Steyn at NRO's The Corner

149 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:17:52am

re: #145 Silhouette

I want someone who says "Vote for me and I'll leave you the hell alone."

Makes sense to me!

150 storagemanager  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:17:58am

BabbaZee your links are very important and should be on the spin-off links...we need them.

151 kellino  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:18:04am

re: #66 macintush

Hey, I'm not on an anti-Mac crusade. It was my first computer and I used it through college.

My only point was that all the rehtoric about Microsoft not being able to write a secure OS misses the mark.

The Mac is in an awkward position -- it is more secure that Windows because of the lack of malware. But I beleive -- as I think the contest demonstrates -- that Macs are not more secure due to better desgin, but are just as vunlerable and perhaps more vulnerable to hacks than Windows.

152 debutaunt  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:18:43am

re: #78 Silhouette

My mother always brings up that the Kennedy's made their wealth on bootlegging during Prohibition. Hell, that's the only thing I LIKE about them.

Dad was pro Nazi.

153 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:18:47am

I guess dad wasn't much of a Muslim. The closing paragraph of the story is about his father:

"He returned to Kenya and became a close aide to Mboya, a fellow Luo tribesman, at the Ministry of Economic Development. According to his old "drinking buddy" Ochieng, he antagonized other officials with his "boasting," was "excessively fond of Scotch" and ended up in poverty "without a job." He got into frequent car accidents, one of which led to the amputation of both his legs. He was killed in another car accident, in 1982, at the age of 46."

154 joncelli  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:19:05am

re: #41 kellino

Yes, and I'm aghast at how casual most Mac users are about security. I'm a new convert so I got security paranoia in the Windows world, so my mouth drops open when I hear salesmen say to customers "Oh, Macs just don't get viruses so antivirus programs and other security stuff just isn't necessary." This kind of nonsense has to stop; the more popular Macs get, the worse it's going to be, so you ought to be prepared.

End of rant.

155 alegrias  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:19:07am

re: #113 vagabond trader

All they have to do is harp on his support of the war, which a majority of voters do not care for.

* * *
Well, McCain has staked his entire campaign to winning this life & death fight OVER THERE.

McCain's own father approved sending bombers to bomb Hanoi, where Senator McCain sat in a POW cell.

McCain likewise is willing to order his own sons to fight until WE win, islamists surrender.

Sentient, thinking people like McCain & lizards know we cannot walk away from what is already HERE, among us, threatening our very freedom of speech & other fundamental values we hold self-evident.

156 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:19:08am

re: #143 Sol Roth

Eddie G!

157 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:19:34am

re: #150 storagemanager

BabbaZee your links are very important and should be on the spin-off links...we need them.

It's no fun in there
LOL

158 itellu3times  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:19:41am

I have an idea.

Candidates should campaign for president under assumed names, and wearing masks, and perhaps capes.

Storytelling should be encouraged.

And if the vote is too close, into the steel cage they go!

159 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:20:54am

re: #144 gop_patriot

Dinghad! Stone the unfaithful honky!

160 NYexpat  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:21:11am

McCain could very easily win, come november. The thing is that Iraq is increasingly a non-issue in the minds of voters.Some first-class economic advisers, and a stump speech that includes reproving the Bush administration's fiscal irresponsibility and a call for smaller government as the solution to a weakening economy. I fear that too many people will be drawn into Barry's nanny-state we'll-take-care-of-everything shpiel out of fear, given the doomsday economic reporting on the network news.

161 maddogg  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:21:22am

re: #148 Occasional Reader

I don't see that much to cheer about concerning our "young Americans". Look at their role models. Better known as "Pop Wrecks". Make an on-line porno and get celebrity billing. Sell your body to the highest bidder and make a million on internet downloads of your air head music. Lose your mind in public and get invited to Larry Kings show.

Bad behavior should not make you rich and famous, IMHO.

162 PeaceAtAllCosts  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:21:30am

re: #13 Teacake!

Lets face it. Obama is an Israel hater, and by virtue of that a Jew hater.

How does a supposedly intelligent human being spend 20 years in a racist church and not have an idea what the Church hierarchy is spouting for doctrine?

Zebrinski and General McPeak, Robert Malley and Samatha Power are all ready to sell the Jews out in Israel.

Wait a minute...so is Bush and his cute little attack poodle, Condi.

163 alegrias  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:22:17am

re: #118 gop_patriot

That's what it appears to me that he's doing, also. Good idea, if so.

* * *
Yesterday there was comment on Fox News about a new McCain campaign ad that says something like "American candidate for American President"...

164 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:22:44am
165 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:23:07am
166 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:23:39am
167 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:23:43am

re: #141 Occasional Reader

Oh, we already knew that.

Damn, but you'd make for one INTERESTING presidency.

I am still laughing at this
interesting indeed
lol

I had an art instructor once, when she didn't like your painting, she would look at it very closely, tap a pencil on her chin and say

Hmmmmmm. INTER esss stinkkkkkk.

in a perfect German accent.

Scary old broad.

WLGF out

Thanks everyone

168 blutonazi98  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:24:16am

re: #139 Sean

when grandma said it about half the family was nodding their heads. "oh i know its true"

didn't know if i wanted to Barf or cry.
/i did know that i had lost and it was time to go look at the steaks on the BBQ

169 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:24:24am
170 sabnen  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:24:38am

The level of political discourse in this nation is nuts. Here we are chatting about who lied when, where, to who, why, etc . . . ad nauseum! I mean can't a candidate just stand up and state a platform, without embellishment, and just stick with it? Can't they just be satisfied with the life they led instead of having to invent all kinds of goofy connections ("My Dad was sponsored by the Kennedy's") that don't exist. It's pitiful.

Hillary will say ANYTHING to get elected. Ambition trumps all and clouds judgment.
Barak will say ANYTHING to get elected. Ambition trumps all, again.

McCain is looking better and better all the time. If I know anything about military families, I'm sure he got his butt kicked 10 times to Sunday if he lied about something when he was growing up. The Naval Academy will boot you out if you lie. I trust his background for truth-telling more than I trust the other two.

Here, in the US we can't even get past character issues, let alone talk about policies. Even when we get beyond character issues and talk policies each side lies about the other side's issues and mis portray them to the point where everyone is befuddled. The vote then becomes the equivalence of a high school a popularity contest ("Oh, he wears the coolest clothes and he smiled at me yesterday!")

171 alegrias  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:25:55am

re: #129 Occasional Reader

Hey, even Reagan had has "botch" days.

At least JFK recognized communism as a threat, and was willing to fight it. Try to imagine a President today doing the equivalent of what JFK did during the Cuban Missile Crisis. That took serious BALLS. Make no mistake.

* * *
When Reagan invaded Grenada the little teeny caribbean island, people laughed.

JFG couldn't muster an Armada to take Cuba, yet he is revered?

Quien era mas macho?
I rest my case.

172 Orbit Rain  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:26:12am

...something posted on Althouse's site last night about Barack not *really* being a "Professor"...

Bottom line is "Professor"was not part of his official title, "Lecturer"...sure..."Senior Lecturer"...well...ummm...ok, if you guys say so...

...and why isn't his CV posted at the Law School's website? Who's office did he share? What do some of his students have to say about him? What did he teach and how often? Three courses a year does not a legal genius make...

What advancement in reasoning does he claim?

I worked there, met him once (maybe twice) in the first few years he was there...*I* was there every day...but then I'm no "Constitutional Scholar" either...and I refuse to be a "Politician"

Do I get some shine by saying Rockefellar paid for a part of my education?

173 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:26:18am

re: #161 maddogg

I don't see that much to cheer about concerning our "young Americans". Look at their role models.

Which makes the poll results all the more surprising. Hopefully, the polls are right.

And every time you get depressed at the sight of some MTV'd-out "mooks and midriffs", remember that we also have people of that same age defending our life, liberty and pursuit of happiness with astonishing courage and consummate professionalism.

174 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:27:51am

re: #155 alegrias

Sentient or not, those are the facts. Unpopular war, across party lines.Bush doesn't have a 30%+- approval rating because of his views on abortion.The Dems will exploit the war to the max. McCain and his people must come out with some convincing background for what they believe in.

175 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:28:15am

re: #165 buzzsawmonkey

Two things to note about the post in Babba's link above:

1) The author is a Canadian, domiciled in Canada; what is he doing writing something on a site for a US presidential candidate?

Oh man, I can't tell you how EXCITED! the left/liberal/progressive moonbats up here are over Obama. It is truly sickening.

176 Endangered in MASS  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:28:40am

re: #102 BabbaZee


My only regret is that I have but one ding to give.....

177 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:29:32am

DINGS ATE MY BABY!

178 Thorfin  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:29:46am

Talking of Lies an the fellow of the DNC.

Lets drag out old rumors once more.

Is it or is it not a fact.

A believer of Islam is allowed to lie to non-believers with no shame. It is not considered a lie. It is allowable to use any means to obtain your objective with non-believers.

Can a believer become a non-believer and not be an apostate and not be subject to death?

If you are born into an Islamic family are you a head knocker?

If you do not want to believe the truth does it make it not true?

179 alegrias  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:29:56am

re: #146 BulgarWheat

they unfortunately don't have any money to afford any of those things. ironic, is it not

* * *
It's JFK's fault!
JFK blinked, Fidel set up his communist caliphate.

180 alegrias  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:33:18am

re: #152 debutaunt

Dad was pro Nazi.

* * *
So is his namesake, Joe (Joseph Kennedy the III or IV), dial 1-800-Joe-for-Oil from dictator Hugo Chavez' commune, formerly free Venezuela.

181 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:33:30am
182 maddogg  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:33:36am

re: #173 Occasional Reader

Which makes the poll results all the more surprising. Hopefully, the polls are right.

And every time you get depressed at the sight of some MTV'd-out "mooks and midriffs", remember that we also have people of that same age defending our life, liberty and pursuit of happiness with astonishing courage and consummate professionalism.


Excellent point! Lets hope they are more prone to voting than their not too well informed brethren at home in front of the MTV.

183 PeaceAtAllCosts  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:33:45am

re: #166 ploome hineni

I don't want to go off on my apocalyptic theory...but things seem to be lining up extremely well for the Gog/Magog thing.

184 nyc redneck  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:33:46am

neither hillary nor hussein can be honest. they are like adolescents who just have to keep embellishing and exaggerating their back grounds because they know they are lackluster empty suits. it's ridiculous. hillary w/ the cork screwing down from the heavens thru bullets and running for cover. crazy. that is a desperate lie to make her seem courageous.
and hussein w/ the kennedy connection. obviously trying to suck up to that drunken slob. pathetic.
these are not admirable reliable candidate for potus.

185 Occasional Reader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:34:33am

re: #179 alegrias

Fidel set up his communist caliphate.

Happened under Eisenhower, really.

186 Kenneth  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:35:56am

Obama's indoctrination

Until I heard the racist and anti-American tirades of Barack Obama's pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, it hadn't occurred to me that the murderous fires in the black community were being stoked from the pulpits inside black churches.

I wonder if it's ever occurred to Obama and Wright that it probably doesn't help young people in the black community when they're told that their country hates them, that the U.S. government gave them drugs and AIDS, and that jail and genocide are the officially-sanctioned plan for them.

187 NYexpat  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:37:00am

re: #174 vagabond trader

Like I said before, the war is not the main thing on people's minds anymore. Most people actually agree with McCain's position on it, whether or not they think that starting it was right, they recognize that we can't just walk away. The thing is that this election is going to be (remember '92?) "it's the economy, stupid". If people don't believe he has a plan, he doesn't have a chance.

188 taxfreekiller[deleted]  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:37:31am
189 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:39:55am
190 alegrias  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:40:57am

re: #174 vagabond trader

Sentient or not, those are the facts. Unpopular war, across party lines.Bush doesn't have a 30%+- approval rating because of his views on abortion.The Dems will exploit the war to the max. McCain and his people must come out with some convincing background for what they believe in.

* * *
War is unpopular and horrible and I can deal with it.

"Popular" wars like that one week First Gulf War, accomplished nothing, in my opinion.

We are re-fighting that stupid, Coalition-approved, Bush I/Powell exercise in wasted effort because we left Saddam standing in 1991.

191 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:42:26am

re: #187 NYexpat

Disagree over the war, Americans care very much. If something happens around election time they'll care even more. As for the economy, tell that to a Dem or Independent and their likely answer will be well, we could sure use the money here that we're tossing at corrupt officials in Iraq.Also, wasn't it McCain who admitted to knowing little about the economy? Sure hope he was kidding.

192 alegrias  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:43:45am

re: #185 Occasional Reader

Happened under Eisenhower, really.

* * *
JFK let Fidel stand, then blinked after sending US troops to invade Cuba by denying them the air cover they needed.

JFK was for invading Cuba, before he was against it.

Fidel began living large on JFK's watch.

193 AuldTrafford  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:47:20am

re: #30 vagabond trader

More egregious is the Obama's lowballing of contributions to him made by Rezko and his patent lie that he hears no evil while attending his racist church.

You have nailed it. This stuff about the Kennedys is nowhere near as bad as Hillary's fabrication; this happened before Obama was born, and the Kennedys did contribute a substantial amount of cash to the group ferrying people over from Africa - pretty hard, in fact, to tell whether highly fungible cash is funding the last trip or the next, or all the trips.

The Rezko situation is much more egregious. These are Obama's personal actions. He took six figures' worth of property from Rezko, in the form of an addition to his residential estate, and so far has avoided telling us what he gave Rezko in return. This is the serious stuff, folks - don't help him cover it up by going off on these ancient Kennedy folktales.

194 J.S.  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:47:31am

re: #61 Maine's Michael

I tend to agree, this is a somewhat minor issue (when compared to all the other whoppers the Obamanation has alleged.)

If all his lies were recorded, the list would, indeed, cover pages and pages. Here's a website which has recorded some of them -- on Barack Obama's campaign....also an interersting segment on Obama's black power (Nation of Islam) ties. One reads:

"At age 33, Obama publishes "Dreams from My Father, A Story of Race and Inheritance." In "Dreams," Obama wrote, "I found solace in nursing a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity against my mother’s race."
195 incanus  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:50:20am

re: #74 Sean

Zombie, I'm thinking Linux a lot lately. Anyone know what distributuion to recommend?

Ubuntu.

If you like to get under the hood more often, Debian.

I like Ubuntu for desktops/laptops and Debian for servers.

196 vagabond trader  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 9:54:03am

re: #193 AuldTrafford

I suspect that this is only the scum at the surface. Unfortunately the MSM is not inclined to be honest brokers of news or seriously investigate the cotradictions. They are bound by political favor and dreams of the Obama.yecch.

197 realwest  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 10:03:08am

OT - this is driving me crazy - every single time I close out of either LGF or simply shut down my computer, and then try to get back on LGF, I have to Log In again!
I'm using Windows XP and Maxthon Browser (which Charles says is just a shell over IE) and can't find any way to "enable" or for that matter "disable" cookies!
Anyone have any idea of why I can't automatically be logged in? This is a new development, btw, I've been able to get on LGF without having to log in every darn time I get to LGF until a few weeks ago.

198 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 10:04:38am

There is a class of colored people
who make a business of keeping the
troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships
of the Negro race before the public.
Having learned that they are able to make a living
out of their troubles,
they have grown into the settled habit
of advertising their wrongs
partly because they want sympathy
and partly because it pays.
Some of these people do not want the Negro
to lose his grievances,
because they do not want to lose their jobs."

~ Booker T. Washington

199 realwest  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 10:07:39am

re: #198 BabbaZee WOW! Great Post Babba! Really great!
Thanks for that!

200 J.S.  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 10:08:25am

re: #165 buzzsawmonkey

I believe this hater of Israel, Tony Wicher, who wishes to have the Jewish state of Israel destroyed and is an official contributor to the Obama campaign is writing from Ontario, California. I think he could be an American Leftist (as opposed to the lunatic Canadian variety).

201 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 10:11:18am

re: #200 J.S.

I believe this hater of Israel, Tony Wicher, who wishes to have the Jewish state of Israel destroyed and is an official contributor to the Obama campaign is writing from Ontario, California. I think he could be an American Leftist (as opposed to the lunatic Canadian variety).

He is I looked the town up

and him too

202 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 10:12:37am

re: #199 realwest

WOW! Great Post Babba! Really great!
Thanks for that!

Booker T would have kicked Obama's Gramscian ass.

203 buzzsawmonkey[deleted]  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 10:13:01am
204 Maine's Michael  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 10:16:22am

re: #194 J.S.

Well, you have a typical white person's take on it.

;)

(and that's why Obama will lose the general, if he manages to get the democratic nomination.)

205 incanus  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 10:17:38am

re: #156 BabbaZee

Eddie G!

ROFL! Reagan!

206 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 10:18:16am

re: #203 buzzsawmonkey

re: #201 BabbaZee

I stand corrected.

My comments on "human rights," and Wicher's false equation of "human rights" with civil rights stand, however.

Absolutely
a brilliant deconstruction of the language of deception

207 ploome hineni[deleted]  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 10:19:11am
208 BabbaZee  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 10:19:33am

re: #205 incanus

Excellent!

209 Raj Against The Machine  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 10:20:55am

...to the generosity of the Kennedy family, which he said paid for his Kenyan father to travel to America...

The Kennedys paying for something? That'll be the day...

210 TMF  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 10:38:29am

Even if you have problems with McCain- you have to admit-

Its cool that he doesnt have to lie his ass off to impress people regarding his background

211 Cry of defiance and not of fear  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 10:43:29am

re: #193 AuldTrafford

I believe Rezko's was a business partner of Jabir Herbert Muhammad, son of the founder of Nation of Islam.

My own view is that the Nation of Islam connection is only the conduit to other interested parties in this election.

212 arcatan  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 10:55:56am

I'm going to print up a new bumper sticker:

If you like b.s. you'll love B.O.

213 AuldTrafford  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 10:58:16am

re: #210 TMF

Even if you have problems with McCain- you have to admit-

Its cool that he doesnt have to lie his ass off to impress people regarding his background

He's perfectly capable of equivocation. In fact, I wouldn't put the outright lie past him. Wouldn't trust any of the three of them.

214 arcatan  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 11:02:20am

re: #213 AuldTrafford

He's perfectly capable of equivocation. In fact, I wouldn't put the outright lie past him. Wouldn't trust any of the three of them.

Frankly I wouldn't want a president incapable of lying - Jimma was one of the greatest disasters ever to befall this country. But then a president that doesn't seem to know the difference between a lie and the truth can be a real problem. If you like b.s. you'll love B.O.

215 gonecamping  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 11:08:26am

re: #49 vagabond trader
Unfortunately you are probably correct, and most folks EXPECT politicians to be lying.

I for one am tired of the lies spouted by candidates. There are the lies about opponents said under the protection of free speech as well as the lies to inflate their own image. I understand that we have free speech here in the USA, but why are candidates allowed to print/air fabrications about the opponents? (and that goes for the 527 organizations too!)

I would much rather hear issues and what someone stands for instead of them discussing what the opponent allegedly is for.

Just imagine an election year with out any fabrications...the scriptwriters and campaign managers would be out of work (said tongue in cheek).

216 gonecamping  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 11:10:08am

re: #212 arcatan

I'm going to print up a new bumper sticker:

If you like b.s. you'll love B.O.

or..."There is something about BO that smells"

217 AuldTrafford  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 11:11:47am

re: #214 arcatan

There isn't a person on the face of the earth incapable of lying - Carter included. It's who you lie to ...

McCain told the conservatives that he knew he had to work to earn their trust - then gave that foreign policy speech last week that, frankly, either of the other campaigns could have put in front of their own candidate, with a straight face, depending on the audience.

When you need to lie to your own base, you've chosen the wrong "to".

218 Reno911  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 12:37:26pm

Reposted from the Obama dead thread.

To accept the premise that this country needs "Hope".
You have to assume that America is Oppressive and does not offer Hope.

To accept the premise that this country needs to "Change".
You have to assume that this country is fundamentally flawed.

Neither of the above assumptions are true, and in fact, reveal BHO's BLT/Marxist worldview.

BHO is a Wolf in Sheep's clothing. There is not a more dangerous leftist in this country than BHO.

No wonder our enemies love him.

219 LeePro  Mon, Mar 31, 2008 2:46:41pm
Obama spokesman Bill Burton acknowledged yesterday that the senator from Illinois had erred in crediting the Kennedy family with a role in his father’s arrival in the United States. He said the Kennedy involvement in the Kenya student program apparently “started 48 years ago, not 49 years ago as Obama has mistakenly suggested in the past.”

Oh, geez! Now, wouldja' look at that...


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