No way Bush will win the election now!

Oh, wait...

Bush Presidencies may come and go, but BDS is here to stay.

Well Mr. Stone

He

put

the

bottle

down.

How did Oliver Stone go from "A" list director to washed up hack?

I wonder who he conned out of the production cost? A Muslim?

This will be a big hit in Tehran.

re: #5 unclassifiable

LOL- what's oliver's excuse?

Stone, a critic of the Iraq war, applies cod psychology

What is "cod psychology"?

re: #7 pat

I wonder who he conned out of the production cost? A Muslim?

Hugo Chavez?

Plenty of moonbat moolah in Hollyweird.

re: #10 MandyManners

What is "cod psychology"?

I think it means there's something fishy about the movie.

I can't wait to miss this movie. I predict it does as badly as "Stop Loss" has done.

The left is unbound by rationality.

The myths that they create are more real to them then reality.

re: #10 MandyManners

What is "cod psychology"?

Something that smells fishy?

re: #13 Wino

I can't wait to miss this movie. I predict it does as badly as "Stop Loss" has done.

I hear the Taliban may want to suspend their ban on Western movies (in the few sh*tholes they're hiding in) and, instead, require everyone to see this.

re: #12 Kosh's Shadow

I think it means there's something fishy about the movie.

The first sentence let me know what the writer thought about the film.

How different the world might look now if the US president and his advisers had settled on the phrase Axis of Unbearably Odious, or Axis of Hatred.

Oliver Stone dosen't have an axe to grind right? After all he made "Platoon", um I mean "JFK", um. . . . . . ..

/I give up

Maybe Ollie just wants to cut his losses?

Another Anti-War Movie Tanks at the Box Office

Another anti-war movie is tanking at the box office. Overnights for Friday show the film "Stop Loss" garnering an anemic $1.4 million for a projected $4 million opening weekend. This despite a huge build up and massive ad campaign with great reviews from movie/war critics.

Oliver Stone proved who killed Kennedy. The CIA, the FBI, the Army, the Navy, 12 Senators, 134 Congressmen, the Mafia, a Cuban renegade disobeying Castro's orders, Boeing, General Dynamics, Litton Industries, and the Shareholders of AT&T. But it is still unproven. What we do know is that Oswald did not do it.

re: #15 BlueCanuck

Something that smells fishy?

Like Oliver Stone's buddies?

I hope it has just enough delays in production that it opens after the election, when only the most dedicated BDS sufferers will be willing to buy a ticket.

Later, Lizards!

Me too. Goodnight, all.

re: #10 MandyManners

What is "cod psychology"?

Maybe they mean codpiece since Oliver Stone is such a d*ck.

Mr, Stone,

And let me add that this type of crap just drives me nuts.

Bush is well aware that he will be an alcoholic you friggin asshole.

What should be a movie about overcoming one's personal demons will be turned into your soap box in which you will display your so-called moral superiority in a way not previously done by exploiting the misery of soldiers, the victims of homicidal maniacs and assassins and anything else that will give you cover for the very little you have had to or will offer in your lifetime.

Go to hell.

Back, and to the left. Back....and to the left. Back....and to....the left. Baaaack...and to the left.

stop loss

Has Oliver Stoned made a movie that's made money since "Platoon" in '86? I think not...

cod psychology - touchy feely psychology you see on tv (one definition)

I definitely will NOT see that film ! EEEK !

Wasn't Primary Colors -at least the book version- supposed to be a scathing satire of the Clinton Administration? Of course, the movie version was a thinly-disguised Clinton love-fest.....

Seems like it can never be the other way around.....

/Think Ollie will work in some My Pet Goat references?

re: #11 itellu3times

Hugo Chavez?

Plenty of moonbat moolah in Hollyweird.

Meanwhile, back at the Headquarters of the Film Actors' Guild....

The writing team appears to have pored over a considerable library of books and magazine articles on Bush and plucked out the tastiest rumours and juiciest morsels of gossip.

sweet dreams are made of these

How edgy and brave to speak truth to power about a President who will leave office in less than 10 months.
/spit

Oliver Stone's a millionaire. Geert Wilders lives under armed guard for fear of his life. He's the one who truly speaks truth to power.

Oliver is just trying to get that coveted seat next to Carter at the Democrat Convention. It's available since the engineers determined that the seating area couldn't handle Mikey Moors weight and gravitas.

I think Stone just wants a free week at Cannes next year.

re: #27 varmint

Back, and to the left. Back....and to the left. Back....and to....the left. Baaaack...and to the left.

stop loss

ROFL ! Good one!

re: #30 Psaturn

I definitely will NOT see that film ! EEEK !

Join the crowd of billions!

re: #38 Bob in Breckenridge

You left me all alone Bobby.:)

I think all of Hollywood is now about conning money out of syndication. Get the suckers to invest. To keep this loser Stone in his fancy house and coke.

This is a serious question!
Eight years. Eight years. Don't these people get BORED w/ this?
I don't get it.

Per #19, may this film do as well, or worse than Redacted or Home of the Brave who, if the link is correct, managed to gross an outstanding $60,000 and $40,000.

/Are those numbers really correct, that means they were seen by what, less than 10,000 people? Doesn't seem right.

re: #39 americanmale

His only good movie was Platoon. After that they went downhill. Operation Chaos, go to Votenader.org and donate $25.00 pass it on.

Seriously dude, it's getting very old...Try going to DKOS. You'd save time on typing, since the Operation Chaos would not be necessary.

I can not fathom deep my lack of respect for this P.O.S is. He owns the rights to produce Ayn Rand's film "The Fountain Head". He is the least worthy person on the planet besides Hugo Chavez and Sean Penn to have the honor of this film. He will destroy it if he makes it. He stands against everything the story stands for.

Pseudopsychology?

Sounds about right.

re: #40 conservgirl

You left me all alone Bobby.:)

Geez, I have to pee! :)

Actually didn't "Natuarl Born Killers" do well at the box office? I think he should stay away from political leftist trip and actually try to make entertainment.

re: #42 pat

I think all of Hollywood is now about conning money out of syndication. Get the suckers to invest. To keep this loser Stone in his fancy house and coke.

Yeah. They also can count on some money from the European market.
A lot of foreign anti-Americanism is fed by guys making bucks off it.

re: #39 americanmale

His only good movie was Platoon. After that they went downhill. Operation Chaos, go to Votenader.org and donate $25.00 pass it on.

You know, it's a wonder you're still here with that votenader shit.

re: #46 Egfrow

Weirdly wasn't that Nicholas Cage movie about Sept 11 of Stone's pretty decent? I did not see it but I read a review in National Review that it was a straight forward, agenda free movie.

re: #48 Bob in Breckenridge

Geez, I have to pee! :)

/But I'll ask permission from now on. :)

re: #49 BlueCanuck

Actually didn't "Natural Born Killers" do well at the box office? I think he should stay away from political leftist trip and actually try to make entertainment.

PIMF

re: #48 Bob in Breckenridge
All that Colorado beer.

I'm more curious how McCain will be portrayed. It's before an election-there will have to be some scene with a guy who looks like him, or fits his description -or might even be a direct portrayal of him. Lets see how much they try to throw this thing.

Of course it won't matter when nobody sees it. Why would even a lefty want to sit through the life and times of George W Bush however much it fits their view of him?

we should thank oliver stone. his JFK was the high water mark of the assassination conspiracy movement. the movie was such an abortion, the loons couldn't survive such a public humiliation.

it actually made kennedy death jokes acceptable. i personally was responsible for the "where's Oswaldo" gag. showing a little figure in glasses and stiped red shirt hiding n the grassy knoll.

we can only hope he'll have the same effect on the current generation of troofer dullards.

re: #39 americanmale

Platoon wasn't even all that good.

A handful of good scenes strung together around a really crappy plot line and held together by a handful of screen chewing actors. Willem Dafoe, Tom Berenger, Forrest Whittaker, Johnny Depp, and Kevin Dillon. All of them carrying Charlie Sheen's poor imitation of his father in Apocalypse Now.

HAMBURGER
HILL,
R

Bush found a way to stop his alcohol use. Stone continues to abuse alcohol and drug use into middle age. Fawns over Castro and Chavez. Kisses up to FARC.

His brain is addled from all the drugs, alcohol and mushrooms.
The film is four years too late.

re: #52 conservgirl

Weirdly wasn't that Nicholas Cage movie about Sept 11 of Stone's pretty decent? I did not see it but I read a review in National Review that it was a straight forward, agenda free movie.

Yes it was agenda free. Too agenda free. Might as well have been about a tornado or earthquake. But, considering the auteur, a pleasant surprise.

re: #51 mjazzguitar

You know, it's a wonder you're still here with that votenader shit.

mjazz- He's posted 53 times, and I'd bet every one was votenader bullshit. He's probably a troll who really does support Ralphie.

re: #55 conservgirl

All that Colorado beer.

More like the Yellow river by I.P. Daily...

re: #63 song_and_dance_man

How about a flick from Stone on the lies of Cackle and Hussein?

The left has its useless idiots and Stone is the poster boy for now.

beyotches

How about the Liar, The Witch and the War Hero

I'm not so sure that "Natural Born Killers" ranks as entertainment either. Typical leftist claptrap only societal instead of defense-oriented.

Cod philosophy

Cod philosophy, sometimes cod-philosophy, is a term for the personal philosophy of the masses, or the philosophical musings of one who has not formally studied philosophy. The word "cod" comes from first syllable of "codswallop", and so the term carries with it a negative connotation. [

re: #43 wolfie

This is a serious question!
Eight years. Eight years. Don't these people get BORED w/ this?
I don't get it.

Some people live to hate. It consumes their whole life. There exist nothing more important to them then their hate.

George Bush makes them feel alive because he gives them somebody to hate. How could they get bored with him? Their existence would be meaningless with out him.

re: #64 Bob in Breckenridge

More like the Yellow river by I.P. Daily...

I always liked "The Tiger's Revenge".

re: #69 Syrah

So, what are they gonna do when Bush leaves office? Especially (heaven forbid) if one of their stalinists (Shrillary or the rookie) win?

re: #56 Bloodnok

Interesting complication! How indeed will they portray McCain?
Ooooh! That satanic bald guy....the one who played god in The Truman Show...good actor....what's his name?

re: #64 Bob in Breckenridge

Hmm, I.P.Daily. Well aren't you cute?!

Oliver Stone....or should that be Oliver Stoned....

Seriously, he's taken one too many drugs......

re: #58 Render

Have to disagree, Render. I went to see "Platoon" with a group of friends from work, about 20 or so, including about half Viet Nam vets or knew someone who died there. They were crying when it ended.

Who's going to play Karl Rove?

re: #72 wolfie

Ed Harris.....act shocked, but I think he's 100% USDA certified Grade-A moonbat as well.

I predict it will be even more popular than Alexander

re: #72 wolfie

Ed Harris?

re: #69 Syrah

Some people live to hate. It consumes their whole life. There exist nothing more important to them then their hate.

George Bush makes them feel alive because he gives them somebody to hate. How could they get bored with him? Their existence would be meaningless with out him.

That goes a long way toward explaining the Palestinians, etc., too.

OT:

UN enemy of Islam

And asked what he expected to happen when American troops leave Iraq, he replied that he thought the "holy war" or "jihad" would "move towards Jerusalem."
"There is no doubt that the American collapse has begun and the myth of unipolarity has ended," he said.
"The raids on New York and Washington were identifying marks of this collapse, but I point out that the collapse of empires doesn't come in a single moment."

True. The Islamic Empire has been spiraling south for centuries.

re: #74 Osama Bin Porkchop

Oliver Stone....or should that be Oliver Stoned....

Seriously, he's taken one too many drugs......

See my #28. Beat ya to it...

re: #69 Syrah
It's so funny too because on one hand he is a first class idiot , yet on the other he is maniacal. Which one is it?

He is a peace with his decisions right or wrong, and does not seem to be bothered by the vitriol that is espoused by the Bush delusionists.

re: #73 conservgirl

Hmm, I.P.Daily. Well aren't you cute?!

I meant Daley!

re: #77 Fenway_Nation
That's such a shame too, he's a great actor.

re: #71 AZfederalist

So, what are they gonna do when Bush leaves office? Especially (heaven forbid) if one of their stalinists (Shrillary or the rookie) win?

When things go wrong they'll blame Bush for the mess he left them.

Oliver Stone is rushing to finish his new film in time for the Presidential election

Bush ain't running and McCain ain't Bush.

/not real sure what the point is, won't change any minds, certainly could backfire

re: #85 Bob in Breckenridge

Noted, BiB.

re: #77 Fenway_Nation

re: #79 J.D.

That's the guy!
And they can have him get mad at NYTimes reporterettes!
Karl Rove: Philip Seymour Hoffman! Yes!

re: #71 AZfederalist

So, what are they gonna do when Bush leaves office? Especially (heaven forbid) if one of their stalinists (Shrillary or the rookie) win?

There will be a great wailing and gnashing of teeth, until they learn to hate someone anew. Who they will hate will be less focused.

Unless McCain wins.

re: #91 wolfie

Karl Rove: Philip Seymour Hoffman! Yes!

Excellent!

re: #77 Fenway_Nation

Ed Harris.....act shocked, but I think he's 100% USDA certified Grade-A moonbat as well.

Correct you are!

re: #71 AZfederalist

So, what are they gonna do when Bush leaves office? Especially (heaven forbid) if one of their stalinists (Shrillary or the rookie) win?

Get the popcorn out.
It will be a four year catfight between Shrillary and Madame Speaker of The House to determined who will be the Queen Bee of Washington DC.

To quote H. Kissinger, "It's too bad they both can't lose".

re: #58 Render

You're right. "Hamburger Hill" was a much better movie, as was "We Were Soldiers Once". Platoon was a leftist fantasy of what happened in the Nam

re: #95 song_and_dance_man

Where is the vast right wing conspiracy seething?

I'm supposed to be seething?

Who knew?

re: #91 wolfie
OT.
Wolfie, you and Bob jumped ship from the other thread, here is my response to your question. I just know you wanted to hear it:)

re: #367 wolfie
Yes only an hour away.

I grew up on the Gulf in FL. About an hour and half from Mobile. It's funny because my friend's grandfather is in the Ken Burn's Docu "The War". You can tell from the Mobile group who is from the garden district and who is not. Katherine Phillips is a grand example of that Port accent. My friend's grandfather is too. A grand patriarch of Mobile. Friend's mother in law went to school around Charleston and this linguistic professor indentified her accent as a Mobile one and said it was unique to Southern Ports

Very puzzling... after GREAT REVIEWS from film critics (oxymoron warning!) AND 'war critics', it STILL TANKS MISERABLY?

"Good evening, I'm Snooty Nikkertwisst, pansy-assed critic of wars, bringing you tonight's review of "Today in Iraq: Purple Thumbs and Other Body Parts"

Well, as I've said before, this effort has NEVER had the... the... uh, SCENT, the 'zeitgeist' of WWII, and little of the moral clarity of the Korean Police Action, but I thought GW Bush's 'Lie Like a Liar to Get the War Started' was a fitting start to this, but now that so many Iraqis are standing in line to volunteer for a job replacing American Marines and Army troops in this dirty little 'war' with dirty little CIA-planted 'brown-people' enemies, its literally no fun at all!

And those dreadful purple thumbs... what does Bush expect? Iraqis holding up signs thanking him? He didn't fight at all!

And with embedded 'journalists' like Michael Yawn carrying water for our corrupt government, making up stories about village massacres and 'terrorist' atrocities, this 'war' only gets a 2 Thumbs Up out of 5 this week.

Well, barring Democrats bringing our illegally-occupying troops home this week -and I don't see THAT happening!- I'll see you here at your local cable or TV station! This is Snooty Nikkertwist, War Critic, out!"

/uhm, yeah, waddever!

Oliver Stone? It seems incomprehensible to me that anyone takes him seriously at all. I mean, even if you don't like to read, the History Channel runs a show about the facts behind his Kennedy film, and it's obvious that reality has very little to do with his films.

Anyone who plays that fast and loose with facts does those who don't know, or refuse to see, any better a great dis-service. And the amount of pure, unadulterated hatred shown for the president should function as a buyer beware sticker for those looking for an unbiased, objective account.

But I suppose that isn't what he wants anyway, is it?

re: #87 mjazzguitar

When things go wrong they'll blame Bush for the mess he left them.

You bet. Clinton did that all the time. Everything that went wrong was Bush, Sr's fault.

re: #74 Osama Bin Porkchop

Oliver Stone....or should that be Oliver Stoned....

Seriously, he's taken one too many drugs......

Hey, he's an unadulterated, unrepentant moonbat, but he was awarded the Bronze Star with "V" device for valor for "extraordinary acts of courage under fire", and the Purple Heart with one Oak Leaf Cluster.

Say what you will, but he put is ass in the grass.

/his politics are still abhorrent to the point of being paranoid, but I'd still rather have him in my foxhole than John Kerry, if I ever was to get near a foxhole

re: #91 wolfie

re: #79 J.D.

That's the guy!
And they can have him get mad at NYTimes reporterettes!
Karl Rove: Philip Seymour Hoffman! Yes!

YES, YES! You are a wild and crazy guy! I concur!

re: #83 conservgirl

It's so funny too because on one hand he is a first class idiot , yet on the other he is maniacal. Which one is it?

He is a peace with his decisions right or wrong, and does not seem to be bothered by the vitriol that is espoused by the Bush delusionists.

I am not a big Bush fan.

I think he will rate well in history.

I think he would have been able to rate much better if he had remembered that a big part of his job as President was to sell his vision of what was right.

He really let us down in that department.

Otherwise, I think he will be remembered as having courageously stood up to the Islamic push early in the long battle ahead of us, even if less effectively then he could have done.

re: #103 Killian Bundy

Who knew? Interesting.

re: #84 americanmale

Bob in Breckenridge. Chill, no troll here just a guy supporting Chaos. I truly think Nader can do some damage if he gets on the swing state ballots. But he needs money so i'm glad to help. I get your point and will cool it. Thanks & have a great night.

He'll be lucky to get 1 percent. Nader doesn't need money, because the same knuckleheads vote for him every election.

If he seriously had a chance, i.e. like when Perot in '92 fucked GHWB and handed the election to Clinton, we'd all be donating to him.

Great choice casting Ed Harris.

Oscar nominated actor Ed Harris told a crowd of abortion rights activists in Washington Tuesday night that Bush failed to meet the criteria for the "definition of a man" because of his failure to support abortion rights.

"Being a man, I have got to say that we got this guy in the White House who thinks he is a man, who projects himself as a man because he has a certain masculinity. He's a good old boy, he used to drink, and he knows how to shoot a gun and how to drive a pickup truck. That is not the definition of a man, God dammit!" Harris said to wild applause.

You can see the video of Harris here.

re: #84 americanmale

Bob in Breckenridge. Chill, no troll here just a guy supporting Chaos. I truly think Nader can do some damage if he gets on the swing state ballots. But he needs money so i'm glad to help. I get your point and will cool it. Thanks & have a great night.

Just a quick note to let you know that some of us here get it.

Every vote for Nader helps McCain.

re: #6 Racer X

How did Oliver Stone go from "A" list director to washed up hack?

JFK

re: #99 conservgirl

OT.
Wolfie, you and Bob jumped ship from the other thread, here is my response to your question. I just know you wanted to hear it:)

re: #367 wolfie
Yes only an hour away.

I grew up on the Gulf in FL. About an hour and half from Mobile. It's funny because my friend's grandfather is in the Ken Burn's Docu "The War". You can tell from the Mobile group who is from the garden district and who is not. Katherine Phillips is a grand example of that Port accent. My friend's grandfather is too. A grand patriarch of Mobile. Friend's mother in law went to school around Charleston and this linguistic professor indentified her accent as a Mobile one and said it was unique to Southern Ports

Very interesting, because being a Typical Atlantic Person, I just though of it as Low Country....SC and Ga tidewater/port areas! Had no idea the accent in the Gulf ports is similar!

That Bush will be remembered well for standing up to Islamofascism I have no doubt. People are going to have an ugly wake up call one day. The idea that these people will just go away if we leave them alone is silly. When have they ever sought peace with "infidels?"

re: #75 Bob in Breckenridge

My father thought both Apocalypse Now and Platoon were mildly amusing crap.

Hamburger Hill is the only war movie I ever saw him get up and walk out of because it bothered him.

IMPRESSIONABLE,
R

re: #105 Syrah
The administration has not been able to sell their vision at all for the last four years. I went to the 05 Inauguration and his speech was so moving, but then it went nowhere. He got caught off guard with Katrina and other debacles and we never had anybody in his administration that could do that for him, he certainly couldn't.

By the way, are there any more anti-war clunkers movies on the horizon?

Given the extrodinary success of In the Valley of Elah, Redacted, Rendition, Lions For Lambs, Stop Loss and Home of the Brave, I'm sure these geniuses in Hollywood can crank out a few more turds....

re: #106 conservgirl

Who knew? Interesting.

Platoon

/moonbat tinged autobiography, Charlie "Hooker" Sheen as Oliver Stone

re: #108 meMarc

Great choice casting Ed Harris.

You can see the video of Harris here.

Ed Harris a man? ROFLMAO! "He's" a flaming metrosexual who isn't sure what his sexuality is...

re: #111 wolfie

A TAP! Have you seen The War? Listen to all the people from Mobile, Katherine and Sydney Phillips, Dwain Luce, Glenn Frazier. You can distinctly hear it in Katherine and Mr. Luce's accent. They are from Old Mobile, especially Mr. Luce. Their accent is very, very similar to the ladies of Charleston and Savannah I encountered.

Nite JD.

re: #103 Killian Bundy

Stone was born in New York City. His father was a Jewish stockbroker and his mother a Roman Catholic of French birth. He was raised an Episcopalian as a compromise but has since converted to Buddhism. Stone's father took him to a prostitute to lose his virginity but did not succeed, in his midteens.

wow

re: #108 meMarc

Great choice casting Ed Harris.
Oscar nominated actor Ed Harris told a crowd of abortion rights activists in Washington Tuesday night that Bush failed to meet the criteria for the "definition of a man" because of his failure to support abortion rights.

"Being a man, I have got to say that we got this guy in the White House who thinks he is a man, who projects himself as a man because he has a certain masculinity. He's a good old boy, he used to drink, and he knows how to shoot a gun and how to drive a pickup truck. That is not the definition of a man, God dammit!" Harris said to wild applause.

You can see the video of Harris here.

Thanks.....that was the verbatim quote I heard played back on the Laura Ingraham show many moons ago.

re: #113 Render

Hamburger Hill? That film where most of the film is of GI's being ordered UP the blasted, corpse-covered side of a mud-blood-slick, nameless hill in south Korea?

That one?

Yeah, it bothered me, too. And the Aussies and Koreans weren't too happy with that hill, neither... the film just portrayed, in a near-bowdlerized, gore-free manner, the banality of war and the horror of having to take difficult, untenable positions in wartime, Render!

re: #117 song_and_dance_man

aladam, the mimeograph is on the blink. Kinda hard to get the memos out.

The header was ROP my ass.

It's OK. I'm always the last to know. *sniff*

re: #120 pat

Nite JD.

Sleep tight, pat.

re: #122 Fenway_Nation

Sounds like a man to me.

re: #118 Bob in Breckenridge

Re. your avatar, Stone would probably cast Curly if he were still alive to play Rove.

re: #113 Render

You listen to me. We're gonna take this fucking hill, Newsman. And if I catch you on top taking pictures of any of my people, I will blow your fucking head off. You haven't earned a right to be here. *You got that?*

/Sgt. Frantz, music by Philip Glass

re: #108 meMarc

What a girlyman.

re: #127 Killian Bundy

Ah! I remember that...

re: #109 Da_Beerfreak

Just a quick note to let you know that some of us here get it.

Every vote for Nader helps McCain.

Yeah, but just about every single post?

Daddy Issues, War Lust in Oliver Stone's 'W'

It's a classic American story: In the prime of his life, a man who parties too much and lives in the shadow of his esteemed father turns his life around. He gives up alcohol, embraces religion and finds a new purpose.

But will his desire to impress his dad and purge his personal demons put the world in danger?

Coming soon to a movie theater near you: controversial director Oliver Stone's "W," the life story of President George W. Bush, a warts-and-all portrayal.

Though the movie is scheduled for release in 2009, there is a chance that it might be pushed up to come out before the November election, say insiders. ...

re: #114 conservgirl

The administration has not been able to sell their vision at all for the last four years. I went to the 05 Inauguration and his speech was so moving, but then it went nowhere. He got caught off guard with Katrina and other debacles and we never had anybody in his administration that could do that for him, he certainly couldn't.

IIRC, he had trucks waiting to go in with supplies and wanted to call it a disaster area & the democratic gov said no.

re: #119 conservgirl

A TAP! Have you seen The War? Listen to all the people from Mobile, Katherine and Sydney Phillips, Dwain Luce, Glenn Frazier. You can distinctly hear it in Katherine and Mr. Luce's accent. They are from Old Mobile, especially Mr. Luce. Their accent is very, very similar to the ladies of Charleston and Savannah I encountered.

Haven't seen it, but now I definitely will!

a touch of Cindy Sheehan

EEWWWWWW!

re: #114 conservgirl

The administration has not been able to sell their vision at all for the last four years. I went to the 05 Inauguration and his speech was so moving, but then it went nowhere. He got caught off guard with Katrina and other debacles and we never had anybody in his administration that could do that for him, he certainly couldn't.

Sorry to disagree, but Katrina did not catch W off guard. It caught the idiot libs in Lousiana and NO off guard. GWB used his saturday radio address to warn the good citizens welfare-collecting parasites living in NO to get out, but without the govt. help, they were clueless, which is the way they go through their pathetic lives.

re: #132 mjazzguitar

Oh, I know. Live in that area, it was Blanco's and Nagin's fault clearly, ie see Mississippi. It did throw Bush off his game and is message I feel, maybe the momentum changed along with the pre-surge bad news.

re: #134 victor_yugo

EEWWWWWW!

Cindy Sheehan is the anti-MILF

/unless it stands for Mother I'd Like to Frag

So far, there are only a few actors officially attached to Oliver Stone's W., the epic biopic about our current commander-in-chief. Josh Brolin was cast as President George W. Bush back in January, then recently Elizabeth Banks was chosen as his wife, First Lady Laura Bush, and last week James Cromwell and Ellen Burstyn were locked into the roles of former President George H.W. Bush and former first lady Barbara Bush, respectively. Unofficial casting bites, though, include a lot of other big name actors. Jeffrey Wright is reportedly in negotiations to play Colin Powell, Tommy Lee Jones is supposedly being sought for Donald Rumsfeld, Robert Duvall has been rumored to be the choice for Vice President Dick Cheney and now both Paul Giamatti and Toby Jones are being named as potentials for the part of Karl Rove ...

Who Should Be in Oliver Stone's Bush Biopic?

re: #129 Karridine

Ah! I remember that...

/it was based on a true battle

re: #135 Bob in Breckenridge

Completely, 100 percent agree. It took the focus away from Bush's agenda, that's what I meant to say. The gross misinformation by the MSM by the likes of Sheppard Smith, Anderson Cooper, and Oprah was criminal.

Seriously, how does this idiot still have a job?

Aughghguaughhhhhh!
I just made my Cuba Libre with Dr. Pepper!
Augghughughh*%$#(*&$.

I forgot that one of the cubs switched liquids on me yesterday for April Fool's.
UGH!

re: #123 Karridine

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

That Hamburger Hill. Dad was there.

You might be thinking of Pork Chop Hill.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Although Dad fought in Korea also, he was not at Porkchop Hill.

===

I put Oliver Stone in the Charlie Wrangel category. Moonbat personified, but they've both earned that right, in blood.

SISTERS
OF
MERCY,
R

re: #137 Fenway_Nation

lolol!

Garbage in, garbage out.

Another film bomb in the making...

re: #130 mjazzguitar

Yeah, but just about every single post?

Why not?
Some folks don't have a lot to say otherwise. {;-)™

re: #139 Killian Bundy

/it was based on a true battle

Sir, YES Sir!

Even today, there is an Australian national holiday for KaPyong Day, part of the overall battle of which Hamburger Hill was one part!

Red Chinese 'volunteers' had been brought in, outnumbering UN forces by estimates as high as 10 to 1... machine guns (ours) burnt out their barrels killing Chinese, but STILL they came, wave after wave...

Hamburger Hill was a mess, but eventually WE TOOK IT!

/God Bless American troops!

re: #127 Killian Bundy

INDEED,
R

re: #143 Render

Ah! Good clarification.

No offense intended, Render.

Thanks...

re: #140 conservgirl

Completely, 100 percent agree. It took the focus away from Bush's agenda, that's what I meant to say. The gross misinformation by the MSM by the likes of Sheppard Smith, Anderson Cooper, and Oprah was criminal.

Now that you mention it, you're right. I remember cutting & pasting the 9 entities that had the responsibility prior to Bush and every now and then inserting them into a conversation in a chat room, because a majority of people were dead sure that Bush screwed everybody over there.

re: #16 Kosh's Shadow

I hear the Taliban may want to suspend their ban on Western movies (in the few sh*tholes they're hiding in) and, instead, require everyone to see this.

Sitting in a dark cave, watching Stones garbage, sharing your popcorn with a bat...:)

re: #140 conservgirl

I'm outta here. Have a great day! Have to be up in 5 hours.

/Ladies and Gentlemen, take my advice. Pull down your pants, and slide on the ice.

re: #143 Render

Some eerie similarities, though... repeated attacks UP a well-defended hill; not tactically necessary; with foot-soldiers mainly; and small-arms; and no close-air support or arty...

You can see how I got them mixed up... oh, and there was a "Pork Chop Hill" movie, too...

re: #147 Karridine

Sir, YES Sir!

Even today, there is an Australian national holiday for KaPyong Day, part of the overall battle of which Hamburger Hill was one part!

Red Chinese 'volunteers' had been brought in, outnumbering UN forces by estimates as high as 10 to 1... machine guns (ours) burnt out their barrels killing Chinese, but STILL they came, wave after wave...

Hamburger Hill was a mess, but eventually WE TOOK IT!

/God Bless American troops!

No, you're thinking of Pork Chop Hill, also a real bloody battle and a great movie, Korea.

/Hamburger Hill was Vietnam, Asha Valley

re: #151 Dustyvet

Sitting in a dark cave, watching Stones garbage, sharing your popcorn with a bat...:)

Make it a double feature...the bats may well enjoy Alvin and the Chipmonks...:)

re: #152 Bob in Breckenridge

Nite Bob!

How did this discussion become a critique of Bush? It should be a critique of Oliver Stone, moonbat truther. I stopped going to movies years ago... sc**w Hollywood. Who the hell are these clowns to tell me how to think or how to vote?

Stone, a director with a keen eye for publicity, is thought to want to get the film into cinemas before the November presidential election, and certainly before Bush quits the White House on January 20.

Well. That should make a difference.

re: #150 mjazzguitar
We outside of New Orleans knew the truth. Actually, never knew what the MSM were saying until we got power a week later. I called my mother and she told me about all the nonsense in NO and I was nonplussed lost some respect for Sheppard over the whole deal.

re: #154 Killian Bundy

No, you're thinking of Pork Chop Hill, also a real bloody battle and a great movie, Korea.

/Hamburger Hill was Vietnam, Asha Valley

And after great sacrifice in both battles, we took the objective and then promptly abandoned it.

/generals and politicians, the same throughout history

re: #160 Killian Bundy

Sort of McArthur saying he would return, while his boys were on the Bataan Death March.

re: #154 Killian Bundy

Talking about scenary chewers.

WORLDS
BEST
ACTOR,
R

Well, I'm glad everyone has got their meats sorted out.

re: #158 Cognito

Big difference!

OT and BTW, you were right about not being able to do anything about the use of soldiers pictures in that HuffPo mosaic. Free use. My sister-in-law and I spent a couple of days pursuing this...in vain.
No. Not in vain. We found out there are a lot of good people out there....including (GASP!) lawyers, willing to go all out to help a mom who lost her son in war. Local lawyers were enlisting opinions of experts from DC to Charlotte, who in turn couldn't have been more generous with time and concern.
One big shot in Charlotte even arranged for a blow-up of the mosaic. My SIL was so relieved that her son was NOT on it. So that was kind of him to do.....and he did it out of his own pocket.

re: #154 Killian Bundy

Tut-tut! Doesn't count, KB, I posted my correction RIGHT ABOVE yours.

/heh

re: #163 lummox

Well, I'm glad everyone has got their meats sorted out.

Hmmmm, back to the Korean dog thread are we?

Here, boy.... c'mere... c'mon, BoShinTang, here boy...

re: #165 Karridine

Tut-tut! Doesn't count, KB, I posted my correction RIGHT ABOVE yours.

/heh

Well, you've actually been there, on a Korean hill, with your ass in the could be overrun at the drop of a hat with no reinforcement crosshairs.

/I am hardly worthy

Shepard Smith is peering over the edge of narcissism. He seems to think that a liberal thought is original, not realizing that he is being cultivated by loons.

hmmm...

SOFIR dot org seems to be down and Internet Haganah doesn't have any pictures, just red x's.

SOMETHINGS
UP,
R

re: #169 pat

I like Shepard, I can't help it, he's a Mississippi boy from Holly Springs that loves his Alma Mater and state. He just went nuts on the Katrina coverage from what I can tell. Again did not view at time it happened, just after the fact.

re: #171 conservgirl

I like Shepard, I can't help it, he's a Mississippi boy from Holly Springs that loves his Alma Mater and state. He just went nuts on the Katrina coverage from what I can tell. Again did not view at time it happened, just after the fact.

Actually I did see it. Smith had trouble understanding that a storm hit that underwater cesspit and not Bush. He was a babbling idiot. Childish, stupid, ignorant, opinionated and full of himself. He lost all intelligent viewers for his simpleminded neglect of the truth.

re: #170 Render

SOMETHINGS
UP,
R

We can only hope so.

/STRATEGICALLY LACKING
FOR TOO LONG

It looks like Hollywood has another hit on their hands. Or not...

Maybe it'll make more than "Redacted"! Or not...

re: #172 pat
Glad I missed out on that coverage. Well not glad for obivous reasons, just not sorry.

I never watch his coverage on Fox anyway. As soon as Brit is off, I check out.

Heck, it's only midnight and I've rogered two threads. Yipes!

re: #175 conservgirl

Brit is excellent. And Shep recovered from his widely ridiculed performance (sort of a Dan Rather redux). But he clearly has changed. I don't know if he will ever hit the upper rungs now. He seems determined to unitellectualize the news. Anyway. That is neither the concern of you or I. Let us have a nice sleep. :)

[Expletive deleted] the Axis of Evil, it's now the Pentagram of Evil_TM.

Whirled Peas runs through Tehran, Islamabad, Damascus, Riyadh, and pick 'em, Jakarta is chalk.

/and like it or not, that's the reality we live in, ignore it now and deal with an order of magnitude worse threat to modern civilization later

re: #168 Killian Bundy

Thanks, Killian... appreciate that.

/we all do our part...

Stone is sure wallowing in it, kicking a lame duck President when his numbers are down. Shouldn't he be demonizing McCain or something? I wonder if he writes these bombs off....

re: #180 markie

Isn't THAT something, Markie?

America-loathing losers STILL get to write off financial losses when American viewing public stays away in droves from America-hating films like Stone's...

Great. Now I've got this song stuck in my head.

re: #182 littleoldlady

Good morning, sweet lady. :)

Ma Sands! :-)

How's by you?

re: #184 littleoldlady

Sleepless. You awake....at work? What DO you work at.....? If it's okay to say.....

re: #185 Ma Sands

I'm down here in my dungeon writing a book: How to sell on ebay and LOSE money.

Oliver is rushing the movie so it will influence Hillary’s chances at defeating Bush in the upcoming elections. He he

re: #186 littleoldlady

Ah....good to know.....I always thought you were in some big, ol' lonely office building.....sounds as if you get to be home..... :)

re: #20 pat

Was Mickey Mouse also in that group?

Ah, liberal hypocrisy in action. Don't liberals believe that even hard criminals can recover and given a chance?

Oliver Stone ... asks the question, “How did Bush go from being an alcoholic bum to the most powerful figure in the world?”

It must be the most throbing question for Stone. I always thought that he looks and talk like a guy having heavy hangover.

re: #186 littleoldlady

I'm down here in my dungeon writing a book: How to sell on ebay and LOSE money.

Heck littleold - just raise the shipping :) You put the fruitcup out yet?

re: #191 galloping granny

granny! :-)

Fruitcup in about 45 minutes.

/hang in there...

re: #192 littleoldlady

granny! :-)

Fruitcup in about 45 minutes.

/hang in there...

FORTY FIVE minutes?! What on earth are you doing? Gold plating the stuff? Well, I made a huge batch of hummus yesterday so I guess I'll just have to get some out of the fridge and serve that up!

There is an lgf operative up there, who has posted in the spinoff links under the article for this thread, ten article links............I clicked on the avatar, and find the Lizard has been registered for 16 months, and has made a total of 13 comments......."2blue4u".......I am intrigued!

re: #194 Ma Sands

There is an lgf operative up there, who has posted in the spinoff links under the article for this thread, ten article links............I clicked on the avatar, and find the Lizard has been registered for 16 months, and has made a total of 13 comments......."2blue4u".......I am intrigued!

Sock puppet perhaps?

I was seriously contemplating at Typical White Granny sock.

re: #195 galloping granny

Aw shucks.....I always forget that possibility.......thanks for helping me keep my thoughts straight, this time of nigh.....morning..... :)

Busy lurking. Found this news article that I have been trying to find a map for. I probably walked that street numerous times in the summer of '89.

/still have the piece of tin for that as well.

re: #193 galloping granny

FORTY FIVE minutes?! What on earth are you doing? Gold plating the stuff? Well, I made a huge batch of hummus yesterday so I guess I'll just have to get some out of the fridge and serve that up!

You can't force the timing.

/I was falsely accused of being a "monitor", I think I can peg one though, waiting for the accumulation

re: #198 BlueCanuck

Were you there as part of the military?

re: #198 BlueCanuck

Busy lurking. Found this news article that I have been trying to find a map for. I probably walked that street numerous times in the summer of '89.

/still have the piece of tin for that as well.

did you try Google Earth?

Oh yeah...monitors.

*waves to monitor!*

;-)

re: #199 Killian Bundy

You can't force the timing.

/I was falsely accused of being a "monitor", I think I can peg one though, waiting for the accumulation

Why heck Killian - you mean you are not a trusted oldie but goodie?

re: #200 Ma Sands

Yes I was, part of the Canadian Contingent of UN. I was an offical peacekeeper. Still have my blue beret and cap badge.

re: #201 galloping granny

Google earth only has a satellite image, no map. :p

re: #203 galloping granny

Why heck Killian - you mean you are not a trusted oldie but goodie?

/are you kidding, bane is my middle name?

LGF MONITORS, REVEAL YOURSELVES! Your power is limited anyway.

/save a lot of unnecessary guesswork

Meh, I found the old Ledra Palace hotel(my base of operations), Paphos gate. But can't find the street they are talking about. I know it's there somewhere. Definitely in the old city portion.

re: #204 BlueCanuck

Yes I was, part of the Canadian Contingent of UN. I was an offical peacekeeper. Still have my blue beret and cap badge.

re: #201 galloping granny

Google earth only has a satellite image, no map. :p

There is no such thing as a "map" anymore for most places. All done by data generated from sat images like these. You can get right down to car level for Ledra Street and there is at least one post about it too.

re: #207 BlueCanuck

Meh, I found the old Ledra Palace hotel(my base of operations), Paphos gate. But can't find the street they are talking about. I know it's there somewhere. Definitely in the old city portion.

Just type "Ledra Street, Nicosia, Cyprus" into the search box and choose the Fly to tab.

Another bad movie from a sufferer of BDS? No wonder Hollywood is losing money by the crate loads. Oliver stone is such a tool.

re: #210 bubbasbbq

Another bad movie from a sufferer of BDS? No wonder Hollywood is losing money by the crate loads. Oliver stone is such a tool.

Yes, they do seem to have forgotten that when people lay out $25+ each to go to the movies that they do so to be ENTERTAINED. Political agendas are not particularly entertaining.

re: #210 bubbasbbq

Another bad movie from a sufferer of BDS? No wonder Hollywood is losing money by the crate loads. Oliver stone is such a tool.

And besides, just exactly what does the idiot think going after Bush is going to accomplish at election time? It would be pretty hard to be farther away from the policies of Bush than John McCain is without being a democrat - and they apparently are trying to foist a lunatic off on us.

re: #209 galloping granny

My googlefu isn't helping this morning. Trouble is the few maps I have pulled up are in greek.

/all klingon to me

Don't delete me bro!

re: #213 BlueCanuck

My googlefu isn't helping this morning. Trouble is the few maps I have pulled up are in greek.

/all klingon to me

Wish I could send you mine - very clear.

One problem is that for maps people are using Google Earth, and google may have the sat images but they don't have a map.

Is somebody lost?

It's dead...now what?

re: #218 storagemanager

Not truly! I'm here, and I know littleoldlady is, too. :)

Good morning, lizards!
Talking about movies, Stop Loss is in 7th place after five days in the theaters. With a meager -and I mean meager- 5 million dollars total sells.
The worst flop of the week.
Heh

Let Mr. high, I mean, Mr. Stone do his little number lol

Now I'm found.

W00t, here's a picture of the palace. :)

/home away from home

re: #216 BlueCanuck

One problem is that for maps people are using Google Earth, and google may have the sat images but they don't have a map.

That isn't really it at all. There are just two mapping companies left in the world - Navtech and Teleatlas. Those two produce all of the data for post offices, UPS, FedEx, map making, everything online, OnStar, gadgets like TomTom. All of the data is stored in a database - actually a large collection of them. (One of my kids works for one of those two companies.)

If you want a standard old fashioned map then check National Geographic.

re: #223 galloping granny

Ok, I see what you are saying. My problem is that I am trying to find online maps. :)

/hence the problem with Google Earth.

re: #223 galloping granny

[Link: www.adcmap.com...]

;),
R

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is one the buffet ------------------------->
Help yourselves!

littleoldlady
Wow, only two seconds off! :)
Thanks ;)

re: #224 BlueCanuck

Google Earth does have a road map/highway overlay function option button tab built in somewhere.

...and a nifty flight sim...

EASILY
DISTRACTED,
R

Miguelito! :-)

/best I could do...

re: #226 littleoldlady

(Thank you.....you are working so deeply steadily tonight.....trying to be very quiet so's not to disturb your creativity..... :)

re: #229 littleoldlady

Miguelito! :-)

/best I could do...

Very good!

Sleep...it's what other people do.

Do you want some gossip, lizards?

re: #225 Render

[Link: www.adcmap.com...]

;),
R

Their new data comes from either Navtech or TeleAtlas :)

re: #228 Render

Not for Nicosia, Cyprus.

/already tried that.

re: #232 storagemanager

Sleep...it's what other people do.

What I need/get too much of.

re: #233 MigueldowninMexico

Do you want some gossip, lizards?

Do you need to ask?

Blue
Try here ;)

re: #230 Ma Sands

My Muse is musing!

;-)

re: #235 BlueCanuck

Not for Nicosia, Cyprus.

/already tried that.

Try here - this is supposed to be the best map of Cyprus available -
[Link: www.cyprus-travel-secrets.com...]

re: #237 galloping granny

Do you need to ask?

Hehehehe.
Howdy Granny :)

Wrath of God got banned today (yesterday I guess)

re: #234 galloping granny

re: #235 BlueCanuck

Hokay then...

I'm batting 0 fer 2 so far. Think I'll take my Fruitcup and go back to bed for a while.

ONE
EYE,
R

Gossip?

/duct tapes Muse...

re: #241 MigueldowninMexico

Hehehehe.
Howdy Granny :)

Wrath of God got banned today (yesterday I guess)

Really? What did he do?

Wrath?! What happened?

re: #241 MigueldowninMexico

Hehehehe.
Howdy Granny :)

Wrath of God got banned today (yesterday I guess)

Why?

re: #226 littleoldlady

Thank you LOL

I've seen maybe 20 people banned, and practically all of them for the same reason:
Wrath tried to tell Charles how to run his blog, and not in a nice tone at all.

re: #238 MigueldowninMexico
Tried that already
re: #240 galloping granny

been there as well.

/try to be through

Maybe this has something to do with the Hollywood mindset.
BOTOX MAY MOVE FROM FACE TO BRAIN (article)
[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

re: #248 MigueldowninMexico

I've seen maybe 20 people banned, and practically all of them for the same reason:
Wrath tried to tell Charles how to run his blog, and not in a nice tone at all.

Wow, where's the link?

/betting its on the monitor thread.

re: #249 BlueCanuck

Tried that already
re: #240 galloping granny

been there as well.

/try to be through

Did you try the CIA factbook?

Tman! :-)

Good morning!

re: #248 MigueldowninMexico

Well, that's never a good idea...

re: #252 galloping granny

Hmmmm. . . . .

/brb

re: #249 BlueCanuck

Tried that already
re: #240 galloping granny

been there as well.

/try to be through

You're thorough indeed lol

re: #251 BlueCanuck

Wow, where's the link?

/betting its on the monitor thread.

You won the bet.
The issue started a bit after post 640 if I remember well.

We are guest here,I try to remember that.

re: #245 littleoldlady

It was here..... ):

re: #257 MigueldowninMexico

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Sneaking a bunt in when nobody's looking...

BASE
HIT,
R

re: #259 Ma Sands

RATS!

foul
ball,
r

re: #259 Ma Sands

WHOA! Well, he always did have a...er colorful way of expressing himself.

re: #259 Ma Sands

Ouch, that kick had to hurt.

/no sympathy from me.

re: #261 Render

That's okay.....I like your way of rendering the comments..... :)

Go to someone's house and insult the host....guess I was raised different...I can't relate.

Ok, CIA world fact book is good. Just no detailed map. I think part of the problem is that there's several different spellings from greek to english. Maybe causing some of my confusion.

re: #254 littleoldlady

Well, that's never a good idea...

It isn't LoL, I've seen it happen several times.

It's logical. I'd do the same.

Once there was a guy here, having a few drinks with me (a Mexican Arab lol) and he spent quite a while telling me how I don't know how to live properly, how bad my decoration and my furniture were, and so on and so forth for a time.
He's the brother of a close friend of mine, so I put up with him that time.

He has never set foot in my house again. And he won't. Ever.

Logical, right?

/When I told my friend he said: Oh yes, my brother's a perfect asshole ROFL!

re: #258 storagemanager

We are guest here,I try to remember that.

Right!