Oh if Jews would only have enough pride to not have to bow down to our enemies. Israel was supposed to make us self-sufficient.

I thought April 1 was last week.

Here's to close encounters of the Qassam kind!

I'd like a free trip to Israel too. Lefty gets all the free stuff.

Everybody visits Sderot.
Nobody moves there.

re: #3 buzzsawmonkey

Dollars to donuts that Hamas stops firing at Sderot while the Koslings are there--professional courtesy, and propaganda coup--and the Kossaks will go away talking animatedly about how the problems of Sderot are much exaggerated.

Spot on.

re: #4 savage_nation

Seriously. Like Kos & Co. don't know that rockets are exploding all over Israel?

Its not that they don't know its happening...it is that they think Israel deserves it.

re: #6 jcm

Here's to close encounters of the Qassam kind!

Close enough they lose control of their bowel, curl into a fetal position and cry for mommy.

Do ya think if I bad mouthed Tahiti for a few years they would woo me? That would be nice.

/Tahiti sux! Boo Tahiti!

Makalalaalalaakakaka -Slooose Isn't going to make the trip!?

Contrast the Useful Idiot Tour with the Hagee-ite Jerusalem tour and $$ pledge.

Israel is just stupid to foot the bill for any these Leftist hitmen.

...and what buzz says in #3 too. Spot on.

Meanwhile, the ADL and the United Reformed Jews are both telling their members that Evangelical Christians are dangerous.

That would be me.

Pastorius
CUANAS
Christians United Against the New Anti-Semitism

Personally I don't think what the "progressive" bloggers see will change their world view. Their blinders obscure so much of their vision it's amazing that they can even see their keyboards.

These types of "Sensitivity Training" Tours were meant for Liberals and Liberals only. Only the LIBERALS require hours (scratch)..Decades of re-education programs to get their minds back into the realm of reality.

re: #10 buzzsawmonkey

"We've got to move out all the 2007 rockets to make room for the 2008s! It's our Spring Offensive Sale; let us put our rockets in your living room school yard!"

Probably more likely.

re: #15 savage_nation

I wonder if they will be monitoring these shmucks when they are in Israel, or if they will in fact just end up paying for more ISM members to come to Israel.

Welcome to Sderot, while we are waiting for the bus to pick us up place stand on this red circle, in the center of a several red concentric rings.

The problem is not that these people do not understand that Israel's survival is threatened. The problem is that they want Israel to be destroyed. They want all Jews, leave alone Jews in Israel to die.
Trying to convince them is similar to attempt to have peace with "Palestinians".

re: #5 Lucius Septimius

I thought April 1 was last week.

Heh! good one..

They say God works in mysterious ways...who knows? It's as good
a reason as any and maybe some good PR for Israel will come of it. One can hope, right?

The trip would be a good thing if they'd actually learn something about Israel. I'm not holding my breath.

re: #18 Pastorius

Meanwhile, the ADL and the United Reformed Jews are both telling their members that Evangelical Christians are dangerous.

That would be me.

Pastorius
CUANAS
Christians United Against the New Anti-Semitism

What? Why?

re: #30 snowcrash

They say God works in mysterious ways...who knows? It's as good
a reason as any and maybe some good PR for Israel will come of it. One can hope, right?

I still hope that Guiliani becomes Republican nominee. Why not?
Same fat chance.

Hey! I SUPPORT Israel. I have an IDF shirt.

Where's my free trip to Israel? I'd love to have that tour! :(

The group will be taken to view Sderot and Israel's 'narrow waistline' by helicopter in an effort to convey the true meaning of a return to the borders of June 4th 1967.

Hold on tight, Markos...

#23 Buzzsawmonkey

Yeah. We have that way about us.

By the way, mind if I share the Four Spritual Laws with you real quick?

re: #32 Cygnus

Why do they need to "learn"? They already know everything, as liberals.

Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.

re: #30 snowcrash

They say God works in mysterious ways...who knows? It's as good
a reason as any and maybe some good PR for Israel will come of it. One can hope, right?

You're new to this, aren't you.

;)

re: #37 Pastorius

#23 Buzzsawmonkey

Yeah. We have that way about us.

By the way, mind if I share the Four Spritual Laws with you real quick?

Which circle represents your life?

I guess ISRAEL is rewarding Lefties with a free vacation and helicopter ride and meet with the leader Ehud Olmert for their Vitriol against ISRAEL?

Geeze... I might quickly assemble a website and attack Vatican City to see if I get some free Treasures handed to me.

#33 MandyMatters

It's no biggie really. I'm just referring to some statements made by Abe Foxman and the head of the URJ a couple of years ago.

I should just get over it, really.

:)

re: #11 WrathofG-d

Seriously. Like Kos & Co. don't know that rockets are exploding all over Israel?

Its not that they don't know its happening...it is that they think Israel deserves it.

DING DING DING

We have a WINNER!

re: #38 mitthrawnurdo

Why do they need to "learn"? They already know everything, as liberals.

They'll the Jews with no regard built Sderot right in the middle of the Palestinian Space Program Test Range, denying the industrious and inventive Palestinians the ability to put the first man on the moon.
/

re: #28 savage_nation

Israel isnt' paying for them to come?

I hope this turns out to be good P.R. as they can see what Israel really is (and isn't). But I'm a cynic here.

Something tells me that it is going to end up with the LLL looking for what they expect, ignoring anything to the contrary, and justifying anything that happens against Israelis. (you know, just like they do on their blogs)

re: #46 jcm

They'll the Jews with no regard built Sderot right in the middle of the Palestinian Space Program Test Range, denying the industrious and inventive Palestinians the ability to put the first man on the moon.
/

PIMF They'll LEARN the...

Happy Happy Joy Joy

re: #31 buzzsawmonkey

You know they're only going for the cheap arak at the airport duty-free.

Don't sit in front of them on the return flight.

#45 Buzzsawmonkey,

Yeah, I got it, and I was joking too.

The "Four Spiritual Laws" is one of those little Chick tracts that Christians used to hand out that was supposed to instantly turn people into Born Again Jesus people.

:)

So, if Waldman actually sees the light, how long will it take for kos to ban him?

Jewish liberals bite the hand that feeds them (Hagee & Evangelicals) and kiss the boot that kicks them (Kostards).

I don't get it. re: #51 Pastorius

#45 Buzzsawmonkey,

Yeah, I got it, and I was joking too.

The "Four Spiritual Laws" is one of those little Chick tracts that some Christians used to hand out that was supposed to instantly turn people into Born Again Jesus people.

:)

With your permission, I correct you.

re: #43 Pastorius

#33 MandyMatters

It's no biggie really. I'm just referring to some statements made by Abe Foxman and the head of the URJ a couple of years ago.

I should just get over it, really.

:)

I wondered if there was something new going around.

#56 Parson

Sure, what did I get wrong?

re: #51 Pastorius

#45 Buzzsawmonkey,

Yeah, I got it, and I was joking too.

The "Four Spiritual Laws" is one of those little Chick tracts that Christians used to hand out that was supposed to instantly turn people into Born Again Jesus people.

:)

It's not a Chick tract; it's put out by Campus Crusade for Christ.

Israel? Oh look, here comes the bus!

/Lord Obama

re: #35 Kalak

Hey! I SUPPORT Israel. I have an IDF shirt.

Where's my free trip to Israel? I'd love to have that tour! :(

No silly, you have to HATE Israel in order to qualify for this tour.

re: #59 buzzsawmonkey

Whoever pays for this trip, I don't think it will be Kos-effective.

*rimshot*

BTW, has anyone ever registered with the name 'PIMF' or derivation thereof yet?

Typical.

Inner city hoods riot and torch their own neighborhood... and get federal block grants and a new rec center.

Antisemite Koslings trash Israel... and get a free trip to the Holy Land.

Muslims seethe, riot, and burn... the world rushes in to kiss their smudgy @sses.

It certainly is true... nice guys finish last. The barbarians get and get, and the good guys pay and pay.

Gee, I wonder why the world ain't gettin' better?

re: #63 Alouette

Maybe they will take Olmert with them when they leave.

re: #61 Cygnus

Which used to be very big when I was in college.

re: #60 Pastorius

#56 Parson

Sure, what did I get wrong?

I added the word "some" when I quoted you. Not all christians shove tracts at people.

re: #58 song_and_dance_man

I keel you.

I don't think you're HAPPY enough! /;)

re: #71 theparson

I added the word "some" when I quoted you. Not all christians shove tracts at people.

Danged straight. Most'll just drop them on the ground.

/that's why I staple them to their backsides as they pass me

#71 Parson,

Yeah, I know. I'm one of those who doesn't.

re: #52 NYexpat

So, if Waldman actually sees the light, how long will it take for kos to ban him?

Oh, I'm sure if he did there'd be a diary denouncing him as a Zionist (just like Hitler) within a week...

re: #72 song_and_dance_man

I can hear it now. They come back gushing about the inhumanity perped against the Palis.

How dare the IDF launch high tech AGM-114 Hellfires, from $60 million dollar Apaches at Palestinians enjoying a rocketry club.
/

re: #4 savage_nation

savage- Here's a website with a map to Mickey's-

[Link: www.yelp.com...]

#61 Cygnus,

Hmmm.

I'd swear I had seen Jack Chick "Four Spiritual Laws" tracts back in the 70's.

?

i wonder what really is the percentage of libs who get it figured out? i don;t think it's too high. their beliefs are not abt. facts and objective thinking. their beliefs are abt. them. it's not abt. ideas, it's abt who they are. and they protect their identity. most of the libs are going over there to gather facts to reinforce their bs thinking. there won't be much introspective thought.

re: #74 OldLineTexan

PTL, OLT!

I agree we all should have a FREE trip to Israel!

It is a wonderful country to visit...albeit an expensive one.

Remember that money from tourism is what many people in Israel depend on.

I wanted to go back last year but finances were...not there for it!

re: #77 guitardalek

Oh, I'm sure if he did there'd be a diary denouncing him as a Zionist (just like Hitler) within a week...

Yeah, that particular claim was Oddity of the Week for me.

re: #74 OldLineTexan

Danged straight. Most'll just drop them on the ground.

/that's why I staple them to their backsides as they pass me

Naw, I just carve John 3:16 into the paint on the driver's side door of new cars at the Walmarts to get people to love Jesus.

re: #85 theparson

Love going to "Wal-Marts" and proselytizing.

re: #82 conservgirl

PTL, OLT!

Pay The Lady? Not me.

I wanted that t-shirt with the color blur on the front. The caption was I RAN INTO TAMMY FAYE AT THE MALL.

re: #51 Pastorius

#45 Buzzsawmonkey,

Yeah, I got it, and I was joking too.

The "Four Spiritual Laws" is one of those little Chick tracts that Christians used to hand out that was supposed to instantly turn people into Born Again Jesus people.

:)

Pastorius, I thought the Campus Crusade for Christ 'invented' the Four Spiritual Laws?

re: #80 Pastorius

#61 Cygnus,

Hmmm.

I'd swear I had seen Jack Chick "Four Spiritual Laws" tracts back in the 70's.

?

Chick Pub is one of those "King James Only" groups I think. They kind of scare me. Every time I drive through Missouri I see billboards that tell me I'm going to hell if I don't read the King James Version.

#61 Cygnus,

I think this clarifies that he did, indeed, publish The Four Spiritual Laws."

[Link: www.christiancomicsinternational.org...]

re: #85 theparson

Naw, I just carve John 3:16 into the paint on the driver's side door of new cars at the Walmarts to get people to love Jesus.

Here's a time-saving hint...get a stencil made (military-size) and just slap it on the car. Wipe once with a rag soaked in brake fluid.

/fast and effective tool of salvation

re: #91 theparson

Chick Pub is one of those "King James Only" groups I think. They kind of scare me. Every time I drive through Missouri I see billboards that tell me I'm going to hell if I don't read the King James Version.

They are. And they're always ragging on Catholics, too.

re: #73 Cattt

I don't think you're HAPPY enough! /;)

/the little critters of nature, they don't know thet they're ugly

re: #88 OldLineTexan

Cute, God rest her painted soul.

#90 PSaturn,

Didn't the Campus Crusade for Christ also invent the rhythmic modifier "just really" to be inserted in a prayer whenever you can't think of what you're going to say next?

;-)

re: #87 conservgirl

Love going to "Wal-Marts" and proselytizing.

Oh, that's a wicked evil place, that is.

they should be bringing people like us over. we would deepen our understanding and be better able to spread the word abt. what we see. why waste time trying to convince the neurotic libs?

re: #95 OldLineTexan

AWESOME! OLT, freaking AWESOME!

LOL!

I hope they have a safe trip and that nothing bad happens to them.

This will not change the minds of the folks at DKos or MoveOn.org. They've got their worldview, and facts be damned.

That Sderot faces regular missile, rocket, and mortar barrages from Palestinian terrorists who seek to kill and injure Israelis at every turn doesn't fit that worldview. Israel's presence is the affront that must be confronted and removed for there to be peace according to the Palestinians and their useful idiots - the Dkos and MoveOn.org types included.

This trip will have little impact, except as to reinforce their perception that Israel must do more to accommodate Palestinian demands. More concessions. More givebacks. More. More. More.

And what will Israel get in return? More rockets and mortars slamming into its cities.

That's where this is headed.

re: #101 OldLineTexan

I am trying to save those stupid, red-state republicans from themselves.

re: #85 theparson

Naw, I just carve John 3:16 into the paint on the driver's side door of new cars at the Walmarts to get people to love Jesus.

I kinda like standing on street corners yelling fags will burn in hell, show 'em God's love up close like.
/Fred Phelps

*spit*

re: #100 song_and_dance_man
No, guess I didn't.

re: #96 Cygnus

I remember reading a Chick tract claiming that the Catholics "created" Islam so that they could control the Holy Land via their proxy.

/ridiculous!

re: #107 conservgirl

I am trying to save those stupid, red-state republicans from themselves.

Praise Obama, sister. Praise him.

/seriously, now. don't make us make you

re: #108 jcm
Have you heard of the Homo song? Is that Fred the one that sings it at Universities? The man is crazy.

re: #89 savage_nation

Oh my, its 7/10ths of a mile from where the jobsite is, according to rand mcnally

Drop your trailer and drive your tractor there. Or if the weather's nice, walk there.

re: #108 jcm

I kinda like standing on street corners yelling fags will burn in hell, show 'em God's love up close like.
/Fred Phelps

*spit*

I want to drop that asshat into Iraq with his entire clan and his signs. Right into a US base.

re: #111 OldLineTexan
I should of put on sarc tag. I am one of those stupid redneck red staters that shops at Wal-mart just for spite.

re: #111 OldLineTexan

Yes, praise the Messiah! He will unite all of us and finally bring respect to the United States.

Evening all. This junket by the lefty libs is designed to give the impression they are fair-minded and open to facts of the situation. Unless they take a rocket hit or a suicide bomber, they have no conception of the true affairs nor do they wish to truly see the reality of the present situation. To admit that the Palestinians are the aggressors and terrorists would be liberal intellectual suicide. This junket has a pre-ordained conclusion...

re: #95 OldLineTexan

Here's a time-saving hint...get a stencil made (military-size) and just slap it on the car. Wipe once with a rag soaked in brake fluid.

/fast and effective tool of salvation

A good friend of mine spray-painted an old Subaru black with a big purple fish on the side. Pretty cool and it gets attention. That and the 'Hard-Core Jesus Freak' sticker on the back window. Gotta love it!

Well. At least those guys are accepting something free and educational, instead of just, you know, stuff.

Somehow I get the feeling we'll all be treated to a "revealing" look at just how monsterous Israel really is, with its malodorous flowers blooming in the desert... And hospitals where people routinely die... and cafés full of Zionist plotters...

re: #93 Pastorius

#61 Cygnus,

I think this clarifies that he did, indeed, publish The Four Spiritual Laws."

[Link: www.christiancomicsinternational.org...]

We printed large tracts for a couple of years, but sales were very slow until my printer, who was producing the 'Four Spiritual Laws,' asked me to make the tracts pocket-sized. When we did this, the tracts started selling better, and I had to rework some of them to fit the smaller size. The company grew until we had our own printshop, and that is how we are able to keep the cost per tract so low.")

All it says is that his printer also produced the Four Spiritual Laws, and told him to make it pocket sized...

re: #116 conservgirl

I should of put on sarc tag. I am one of those stupid redneck red staters that shops at Wal-mart just for spite.

Not needed, IMO.

re: #103 nyc redneck

they should be bringing people like us over. we would deepen our understanding and be better able to spread the word abt. what we see. why waste time trying to convince the neurotic libs?

I understand how you feel, but wouldn't that be preaching to the choir? So to speak?

re: #106 lawhawk

I agree. I just can't figure out if they are really that deceived or if maybe they have some diabolical plan. It just baffles me how they can trust these idiots. And why do they seem so willing to give up what so many fought and died to gain. I just don't get it.

re: #124 buzzsawmonkey

It's got a great beat and you can dance to it.

re: #112 conservgirl

Have you heard of the Homo song? Is that Fred the one that sings it at Universities? The man is crazy.

No I haven't, I'm a very conservative, evangelic, fundamental Christian.
I be sorely tempted to and probably could not restrain myself and end up decking that [deleted] and the jail time would be worth it.

re: #112 conservgirl
re: #124 buzzsawmonkey

Not sure, saw this crazy man at Ole Miss with his nutty wife. The students were laughing at him. I think the Phelps man is the man from Kansas, right?

re: #87 conservgirl

Love going to "Wal-Marts" and proselytizing.

/Last time I went to Wal-Mart and told the customers I was proselytizing them, they thought I was checking if they were drunk.

re: #93 Pastorius
From that link:

Shortly after producing A Demon's Nightmare , Jack had an opportunity to speak to some prison inmates, and he presented the Gospel to them with a cartoon art flip chart to illustrate his talk. When he finished, most of the inmates present accepted Christ as Lord and Savior.

Nowadays, islam is getting all the converts and they're upset about cartoons.

re: #100 song_and_dance_man

I think you're right. I have never been comfortable with gospel merchants who use marketing schemes to push faith. Anyone remember the 'I Found It' campaign. Silly.

I was amused by the Jewish response: We Never Lost It!

re: #120 Cognito

You are right!

re: #105 Spare O'Lake

I hope they have a safe trip and that nothing bad happens to them.

Socks O' Lake ;)

re: #128 jcm
Christians were protesting him, at Ole Miss.

re: #126 theparson

I wish I knew as well, but they must think that their personal power increases by opposing everything that the US and the West stands for.

Indeed, they probably have no problem with a radio station censoring an ad supporting the people of Sderot who are under incessant rocket barrages, and the station claims that the ad wasn't accurate in stating that Sderot was a regular target and that listeners might get confused about who was being targeted.

re: #131 Bob in Breckenridge
Or looking for a hook-up!

Waldman writes for the Dkos frontpage. It's Dkos editorial policy that they don't write about Israel on the front page. This trip is a waste. I seriously doubt if Kos will even let him write about it.

Actually, the Israelis seem to be going on the offensive against the bastions of LLLism. They've had professors from Israel going around to colleges to speak about the situation ins Sderot. My sense is that this is part of a larger effort to try to get them to see what's happening and make it more difficult to demonize Israel.

Unfortunately, my fear (like that of others here) is that the Pali's will use this to their advantage. And in any event most of these folks are so ideologically driven that they would believe the sun to be the moon if seeing it that way would reveal the truth of their beliefs. They'll see what they want to see and nothing else.

re: #136 conservgirl

Christians were protesting him, at Ole Miss.

It's amazing what passes for Christianity! Seems to me it should have at least a little something to do with Christ.

re: #139 Killgore Trout

Waldman writes for the Dkos frontpage. It's Dkos editorial policy that they don't write about Israel on the front page. This trip is a waste. I seriously doubt if Kos will even let him write about it.

And whatever he did end up writing, if they did post it, would likely be incoherent.

re: #141 theparson
I agree.

re: #141 theparson

It's amazing what passes for Christianity! Seems to me it should have at least a little something to do with Christ.

Phelps is no Christian. He has his own little hate-filled cult going, with his inbred relatives being the only members.

Send Ted Rall!

/no wait, send this elephant, it can draw better

Well crap, I am being hopeful for nothing it seems. BTW, interesting link on bribing bloggers Cognito.

re: #141 theparson

It's amazing what passes for Christianity! Seems to me it should have at least a little something to do with Christ.

That's a novel thought.
/

#121 PSaturn

Yeah, I wasn't sure exactly what that meant.

Anyway, are you saying the Campus Crusade for Christ actually codified the Four Spiritual Laws?

I would have thought they were older than that.

re: #147 Cygnus
You know it was not Phelps, but some man and woman team that have been all over the country at colleges. I should try to find the link. But similar to Phelps.

You know what will happen if The Solomon Project flies left-wing American activists over to Israel to see what's really happening in Israel?

(1) The Solomon Project will be out a few thousand bucks.

(2) The left-wing American activists will hate Israel as much as they ever have, but will now be able to say "I've BEEN to Israel, and I KNOW FIRST HAND what a bunch of baby-eating Nazis those Israelis are."

(3) Maybe a few a few of the 78% of American Jews who vote democrat (say, those at The Solomon Project) will begin to extract their heads from their colons, with respect to who their friends are in the world.

re: #105 Spare O'Lake

I hope they have a safe trip and that something bad happens to them.

fixed that for ya...

re: #156 redc1c4
hey redc1c4. Doing okay?

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if this resulted in some changes of heart? And wouldn’t it be wonderful if unicorns from space cured the common cold? US left-wing bloggers to visit Sderot.

Hey Charlie, we're on a bridge! Yea! Come on Charlie, we're on a bridge!

re: #120 Cognito

Well. At least those guys are accepting something free and educational, instead of just, you know, stuff.

Somehow I get the feeling we'll all be treated to a "revealing" look at just how monsterous Israel really is, with its malodorous flowers blooming in the desert... And hospitals where people routinely die... and cafes full of Zionist plotters...

The Palis will certainly point out how much better the Jews have it. And of course the poverty in Gaza and the West Bank is all the Jews fault.

Forget the fact that in 1948 the Jews had diddly squat, and built all the wonderful things in Israel from scratch.

re: #156 redc1c4

Not really our style.

re: #153 savage_nation

Everytime I drive thru Topeka I try to spot that POS driving around.

Well don't "accidentally" run over the little fracker...

Kos' coauthor, psychic and convicted stock market swindler Jerome Armstrong is also going...

I'm out till the 15th or so, as I'm headed over to Israel for a trip with the NJDC and doubt I'll have time to blog, but will be back before the next upcoming primaries.

re: #153 savage_nation

Everytime I drive thru Topeka I try to spot that POS driving around.

Yeah, but in weird spiritual Catch 22, real Christians wouldn't touch a hair on the head of that whack job. I would like to able to get in his face and tell him to stfu or get a different religion. Do something with his life other than be a religious terrorist.

sorry to get off topic. has anyone else noticed that the Chinese have sent along SpecOps fellas as the Olympic Flame attendents.

Wonder if they're going to crack some skulls in Zombies backyard tomorrow?

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Evening red, up to your usual shenanigans today?

re: #152 Pastorius

#121 PSaturn

Yeah, I wasn't sure exactly what that meant.

Anyway, are you saying the Campus Crusade for Christ actually codified the Four Spiritual Laws?

I would have thought they were older than that.

Bill Bright developed the tract and message in the mid-sixties. It's scripturally based but the text and message were formulated by Bright as we now know them. My uncle was Bright's personal admin assistant around then.

Hey, all!

Late getting to the thread, too lazy to catch up tonight. Hope everybody's doing well.

NASCAR haulers have been making their way through Tucson on the way to Phoenix for the night races this weekend. Merchandise haulers today, expect to see car haulers tomorrow!

Reason #88: That New Car Smell!
Reason #48: Twice as Good as 24!

re: #157 conservgirl

hey redc1c4. Doing okay?

as far as i know...

/beer 30

re: #152 Pastorius

#121 PSaturn

Yeah, I wasn't sure exactly what that meant.

Anyway, are you saying the Campus Crusade for Christ actually codified the Four Spiritual Laws?

I would have thought they were older than that.

Pastorius, Wikipedia (I know, great trustworthy source!) does indicate that Dr Bill Bright of Campus Crusade penned the Four Spiritual Laws

The Four Spiritual Laws
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The Four Spiritual Laws is an evangelistic Christian tract created in 1965 by Bill Bright, founder of Campus Crusade for Christ. Bright wrote the booklet as a means to clearly explain the essentials of the Christian faith concerning salvation.

In the booklet, Bright summarizes the Christian message of salvation contained in the Bible as four spiritual laws that govern our relationship with God, just like there are physical laws that govern the universe.[1] The four spiritual laws are:

1. God loves you and offers a wonderful plan for your life. (John 3:16, John 10:10)
2. Man is sinful and separated from God. Therefore, he cannot know and experience God's love and plan for his life. (Romans 3:23, Romans 6:23)
3. Jesus Christ is God's only provision for man's sin. Through Him you can know and experience God's love and plan for your life. (Romans 5:8, I Corinthians 15:3-6, John 14:6)
4. We must individually receive Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord; then we can know and experience God's love and plan for our lives. (John 1:12, Ephesians 2:8,9, John 3:1~8, Revelation 3:20)

Use of the tract is widespread[2] and continues today in various forms and multiple languages by Christians in their efforts to explain their faith to non-Christians.[3]

re: #153 savage_nation

Everytime I drive thru Topeka I try to spot that POS driving around.

And there would go your prefect record...
;-P

re: #148 Killian Bundy

Send Ted Rall!

/no wait, send this elephant, it can draw better

That was why I had one comment deleted! Thanks, KB. I said what I'd to Ted Rall if I ever saw the POS. Guess I got a little too descriptive(We were talking about this a few nights ago when a bunch of comments got deleted).

/OK, who told on me?

re: #160 Racer X

Forget the fact that in 1948 the Jews had diddly squat, and built all the wonderful things in Israel from scratch.

Accomplishmentist! How insensitive to the differently-work-ethiced community.

re: #155 Last Mohican

I would agree with your first two points but, I am afraid your number 3 is just not going to happen.

re: #169 redc1c4

as far as i know...

/beer 30

Is that plus or minus?

The comments on this topic really bite. Thanks to everyone for staying so on-topic.

I'm of a mind to kick to some rookie's ass tonight.

re: #169 redc1c4

Oh it is, very soon.

re: #161 theparson

Not our style, but if something did happen I would not lose any sleep.

Of course, if they were hit by a kassem, it would still be the Jooos fault.

re: #161 theparson

Not really our style.

i follow the Harmony Church Spiritual Laws...

re: #125 Cattt

I understand how you feel, but wouldn't that be preaching to the choir? So to speak?

i think bringing over the libs is like pearls before swine. they have their agenda and are looking for ways to justify it. i think they are a waste of time.
i can only imagine that if i went, i would be inspired by the courage and fortitude of israel. i would do good w/ that. they would value from me.

re: #166 BlueCanuck

Evening red, up to your usual shenanigans today?

moi? shenanigans?... never.

/white smoke %-)

re: #168 Sarge1984
Hey Sarge, marini yet?

re: #158 song_and_dance_man

Ah yes, you did say that. Missed it.

Late arrival, Had to go back up thread to see if you were talking about the Wrong Revrend, or Phreaky Phreddy.

re: #182 redc1c4

moi? shenanigans?... never.

/white smoke %-)

Hmmm, I see it has already started.

/beer 30 you said? Oy.

re: #183 conservgirl
Make that Martini.
PIMF

re: #175 LoFlyer

Is that plus or minus?

yes...

re: #176 really grumpy big dog johnson
At least you could make an on-topic comment before you start bitchin' about off-topic comments.

We also want to provide them with an eye-opening experience that will help them better understand the complexity of the Arab-Israeli conflict.

Of course this assumes they want to understand the situation better, I hope so, but I doubt it -- every thing will likely just be seen through the lens of ideology.

Just a word to the wise for fellow bloggers -- AKI or Adnikronos International burnt me on a news story the other day - I should have second sourced, but that day I didn't have time to cruise the Pakistan papers. If you see something from them, check for other news stories before running with it.

re: #183 conservgirl

Hey Sarge, marini yet?

No--it's a "school night". Martoonies are for FNDT. Dead Hamilton Wine. How's life today?

re: #167 jcm

Bill Bright developed the tract and message in the mid-sixties. It's scripturally based but the text and message were formulated by Bright as we now know them. My uncle was Bright's personal admin assistant around then.

That is wonderful!

re: #168 Sarge1984

Why does everyone seem to hate the little whiney Jeff Gordon?

I doubt this will change anything. The only way a democrat changes their spots is to be mugged by reality; a hardcore leftist- I'm not sure anything will change them, they are lost.

In the hope that any of these people on this trip could have a change of heart- I suggest the hospitals of Israel as a stop on the tour. Let them see Israeli doctors working on palesinians vowing to kill them, because if that's not an eye opener, nothing will be.

Oh, look! Shiny object! A new thread!

re: #188 ec marm

How about just not making off-topic comments in the first place? Unless I do a two-for-one, any comment suggesting that people might keep off-topic comments to open threads is necessarily off-topic.

re: #153 savage_nation

Everytime I drive thru Topeka I try to spot that POS driving around.

Hard on tires. Wouldn't want to have to clean that out from between my tires. Besides, why martyr him? he is making a total assof himself. If you find his vehicle, put a Hillary 08, a Boyda, and a gay and proud sticker set on the bumper.

re: #176 really grumpy big dog johnson

The comments on this topic really bite. Thanks to everyone for staying so on-topic.

I'm of a mind to kick to some rookie's ass tonight.

well, what are your thoughts on the topic, grumpy?

re: #191 Sarge1984
Pretty good, okay weather here in Mississip.

Sleepy though, not sleeping enough.

re: #198 nyc redneck
NYC Redneck, LOL!

re: #193 DownRightMeanAmerican

Why does everyone seem to hate the little whiney Jeff Gordon?

I don't know. Try asking Tim Wilson...

re: #188 ec marm

At least you could make an on-topic comment before you start bitchin' about off-topic comments.

Some people could go off topic in an open thread, so don't get me started.

re: #196 really grumpy big dog johnson

How about just not making off-topic comments in the first place? Unless I do a two-for-one, any comment suggesting that people might keep off-topic comments to open threads is necessarily off-topic.

So do a two-for-one. Or would you rather just bitch and moan and completely hijack the thread?

re: #193 DownRightMeanAmerican

Why does everyone seem to hate the little whiney Jeff Gordon?

Sunday's race was very pleasant without him.

;-)

re: #194 Sharmuta

I doubt this will change anything. The only way a democrat changes their spots is to be mugged by reality; a hardcore leftist- I'm not sure anything will change them, they are lost.

In the hope that any of these people on this trip could have a change of heart- I suggest the hospitals of Israel as a stop on the tour. Let them see Israeli doctors working on palesinians vowing to kill them, because if that's not an eye opener, nothing will be.

good point. if the libs can't process that scenario, game over for those fools.

re: #195 Sarge1984

Oh, look! Shiny object! A new thread!

I can't bring myself to watch the hearings (afraid my quadruple heart bypass will come undone) so I'm not going... over there.

That’s hilarious.

Everybody this is the best driver!

re: #196 really grumpy big dog johnson

How about just not making off-topic comments in the first place?

Feel free to ignore my OT posts.

Ya big grump!

;-)

re: #199 conservgirl

Lack of sleep by choice or not? If not by choice, I hope it gets better. If it's by choice, do you know where to find sympathy in the dictionary?

re: #192 psaturn

That is wonderful!

It was 1970 we'd come back from Iran for a furlough. Visited my Uncle in CA and toured Arrowhead Springs (the Campus Crusade HQ) then had dinner at Bright's home. That night he got out his kids telescope, they were grown and gone, to look at the stars. He gave me the telescope.

Met him that one time, and that's what I remember.

Took the telescope back to Iran. Spend hours out in the village away from city lights star gazing.

re: #124 buzzsawmonkey

The deranged Rev. Phelps and his equally deranged followers decided a couple of years ago to come out here to Cape Cod and visit one of their protests in Provincetown. For those of you who have never heard of it, it is the gay mecca of the east coast. Well, they apparently did not fully realize what it meant to walk into the most moonbat froth-at-the-mouth Massachusetts liberal town, and still expect to walk out alive. They had hundreds of people coming into town, MOOBAT armies marched on P-Town to await... The police chief here called Phelps chief of police back home to get some tips.
Then the Phelps croo was advised there was only one main road in and out of town. They took the hit and canceled the non-refundable air fares, and have not been heard from since. They are idiots, and I don't know if any of you realize it (forgive me if its been discussed), but this roving band of nuts actively protests at soldiers funerals across the country. Can you imagine having that pop up at random at your son's funeral?

re: #207 DownRightMeanAmerican

I prefer This Driver!

re: #209 Sarge1984

Oh, not by choice, can't sleep lately. Ugh!

re: #207 DownRightMeanAmerican

That’s hilarious.

Everybody this is the best driver!

Nah ah!

This is!

re: #204 Racer X

LOL !

I cant believe #00 survived his wreck, he hit at 184 mph all most head-on..

I think that was harder then the hit # 3 took. :(

re: #215 savage_nation

That's why the Freedom Riders are going to military funerals.

They're not going to Israel for free. They're doing something out of the generosity of their hearts and a desire to do something positive for others.

/that was an OT and OT two-fer

not, "they would value from me."
but, they would GET value from me.
(if i went over to israel, that is, )

re: #207 DownRightMeanAmerican

I admire his quick change-over from F1, but I really don't like his arrogance and aloof attitude. It's nice to see some diversity (hell, I cheer for every female driver that qualifies for the Cup or Nationwide races), but I really don't care for Montoya's attitude. But I like Franchitti's accent. It's refreshing to hear a brogue instead of a drawl every so often. I just really wish Truex would let his Jersey accent out. "Fuhgeddaboudit, he wouldn't get outta da way, I puddim in da wall."

re: #210 savage_nation

Well, I

I'll just give him a kiss. A kiss with the bumper of my Pete.

About 3 mph, just to show I care LOL

Hit him with the door instead.

re: #210 savage_nation

Well, I

I'll just give him a kiss. A kiss with the bumper of my Pete.

About 3 mph, just to show I care LOL

To know you is to love you Savage! So your driving one of those long nosed Peter-builts! I always thought they were classy looking trucks...

re: #217 DownRightMeanAmerican

I saw it! I was there (in the WinStar suite). Yes, I. saw. it. happen!

Hi Conservgirly, Savage, Parson. What did I miss? Just got home from a ride around town with the top down. Beautiful sunny day in the 80s. Cacti in bloom. Citrus in blossom.

Life is good!

re: #211 jcm

It was 1970 we'd come back from Iran for a furlough. Visited my Uncle in CA and toured Arrowhead Springs (the Campus Crusade HQ) then had dinner at Bright's home. That night he got out his kids telescope, they were grown and gone, to look at the stars. He gave me the telescope.

Met him that one time, and that's what I remember.

Took the telescope back to Iran. Spend hours out in the village away from city lights star gazing.

That must have been special ! Wow!

re: #217 DownRightMeanAmerican

LOL !

I cant believe #00 survived his wreck, he hit at 184 mph all most head-on..

I think that was harder then the hit # 3 took. :(

Yes his hit was much harder. It is amazing how much safer the cars (and tracks) are versus just a few years ago.

re: #198 nyc redneck

well, what are your thoughts on the topic, grumpy?

There haven't been enough on-topic posts for me to have a suitable subject to discuss. I came here to read this thread. There haven't been many insightful posts at all. Let's see, wishing the lefties have a close encounter with a rocket attack, get sent back home, won't make any difference anyway, jokes, lots of "four christian" off-topics.

Just like everyone else, I sometimes just come heare and read. All the off-topic stuff wastes my time, and yours. On a blog where there are thousands of comments posted daily, off-topic can be an enormous waste of time.

re: #213 theparson

I prefer This Driver!

FORE!

re: #212 CapeCoddah

The deranged Rev. Phelps and his equally deranged followers decided a couple of years ago to come out here to Cape Cod and visit one of their protests in Provincetown. For those of you who have never heard of it, it is the gay mecca of the east coast. Well, they apparently did not fully realize what it meant to walk into the most moonbat froth-at-the-mouth Massachusetts liberal town, and still expect to walk out alive. They had hundreds of people coming into town, MOOBAT armies marched on P-Town to await... The police chief here called Phelps chief of police back home to get some tips.
Then the Phelps croo was advised there was only one main road in and out of town. They took the hit and canceled the non-refundable air fares, and have not been heard from since. They are idiots, and I don't know if any of you realize it (forgive me if its been discussed), but this roving band of nuts actively protests at soldiers funerals across the country. Can you imagine having that pop up at random at your son's funeral?

They caused the formation of the Patriot Guard. Most funerals desicrated by Phreaky Phreddy are assisted by our vets. The family rarely sees the Phreaks.

"Solomon Project?"
I don't believe that King Solomon would want to be associated with the bozo's who planned this debacle.

Obviously, wisdom isn't a prerequisite for this job.

I can't bring myself to visit Kos.

re: #224 hermeneutics

Hey, Herm...
Mostly pleasant, some grumpy, nothing earth shattering.

re: #233 theparson

new thread. Lets move!

re: #228 savage_nation

Yeah, its the Model 379

One of the Stylish rigs I see. What year is yours?

re: #227 really grumpy big dog Johnson

There haven't been enough on-topic posts for me to have a suitable subject to discuss.

No kidding. What can you say? That you hope the lefties experience multiply rocket attacks? No, because innocents may get killed.
Can you say that you hope nothing happens? The lefties head back to the U.S. with the story that Sderot is a walk in the park.
Buzzsawmonkey nailed it in comment #3.

Hey, ya never know, it could work. We could see an extremely rare occurance of a pig flying.

Nope, that pigs firmly entrenched in the wallow. The Kos kids will never believe that Isreal has a right to exist.

Dammit!

I want a Nascar thread then!

re: #230 JeremyR
One of my work neighbors is a retired Marine who still does a lot of really nice things for the troops. He is the commander of the VFW in town he is, I believe a member of the Patriot Guard, he is bringing some wounded warriors to the Cape this summer, and Chatham, being the most conservative town in the State, has business owners and everyday locals who are helping make the trip a great one. They will be in private summer rental homes volunteered that would go anywhere from 35K and way up per week. They will be fed, chauffeured, taken on whale watches, deep sea fishing, etc, and probably given one hell of a party at the VFW.
We are all really looking forward to it.

"And wouldn’t it be wonderful if unicorns from space cured the common cold?"

NO! A plague of HEADLESS UNICORNS will destroy this planet! BEWARE!

re: #241 CapeCoddah

That's truly heartwarming.

How can we support it?

Call me "Gloomy Gus", but I just think it is counter productive for Israel to try garnering sympathy from the Treason Lobby.

re: #243 Sarge1984

Well, You could donate to Wounded Warriors, or get together at your local VFW, with buisnesses in your town, and put a trip together. Invite them. My friend went online and invited them, then came to everyone and put it together in several hours. Its a small town, and it is still a place where people watch out for neighbors, and we dont give tourists directions to the bridge to Nantucket just for the fun of it.

re: #229 Sarge1984

I cant drive those, it doesnt have 4 wheels, yet!

I suck at golf.

re: #229 Sarge1984

I kinda prefer this Driver, but my wife has other thoughts (I hope)

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re: #229 Sarge1984

re: #240 Racer X

Racecar, spelled backwards is still, racecar ~ DW

re: #244 buzzsawmonkey

Nomolos Project?
Yes that sounds better. Thanks!

Charles-

Betting $0.01 on a "Change of Heart" is like being ONE ORDER of MAGNITUDE TOO HIGH! That is all.

-S-

It is important that progressive bloggers and leaders of progressive organizations

What is so "progressive" about left wing activists?

progressive hatefulness?
progressive self-pity?
progressive victim syndrom?
progressive antisemitism/"anti-Zionism"?
progressive tunnel vision?

I can't see what other reasons there are for the followers of the old discredited ideology that took tens of millions human lives in half a century to consider themselves "progressive".

re: #252 norar

norar -

Now, let's get this straight. Daily Kos AND ILK - HATE THE JEWS - BIG TIME! Why is that? ENVY! The Jews survived ALL that was thrown against them - and not only survived BUT THRIVED on anywhere NEAR an even playing field. AND for all 'y'all KKK'ers Out There, the Attorney General and equivalent to Surgeon General of the CSA WERE JEWISH! - Like Google Judah P. Benjamin etc., et.al! Take your Judenhass to the GRAVE. It Might Just Lose the "PROGRESSIVES" another Presidential Election - as in G-d doesn't like having himself or "his people" screwed with.

-S-

Israel giving these folks a guided tour? It's just like the Chinese Tibet tour, it's all PROPAGNDAA!

/srsly though, we can only pray on that thin ray of hope...

Saeb Erekat

Enough said. Or maybe E-Nuf Said.

A partner in peace.

*spit*

"While Israel enjoys relatively balanced coverage in American mainstream media"

Guh?

As I recall, not so long ago (but clearly pre-surge), various Leftist apparatchiks dared upon Michelle Malkin, a girl mother of 2(?) and one with no military experience, to go to Baghdad.

She went, as soon as the trip could be arranged.

Now, Israel invites an assortment of Leftist apparatchiks to come to Israel.

Kos, someone who makes note of his prior military service and claims that it qualifies him to talk about . . . makes the manly choice: send one of his editors.

Dude Kos: The world watches: will you not go yourself?

Take Soros with you. Last time he was in a war zone, he was, what, fingering Jews? He’s unlikely to meet any real old friends, but perhaps this experience will help him understand that there are (and were) consequences to his actions.

re: #257 quarkie

"While Israel enjoys relatively balanced coverage in American mainstream media"

Guh?

Compared to the coverage in the ME or Europe... well, then yes, its relatively balanced...

It's a noble effort on the part of the Israelis, but I think they underestimate the political animosity in this country. Even if the progressives did come to see things differently, they would never cede such a moral point to conservatives publicly.

Be that as it may, they are being given an opportunity here to do the right thing in the eyes of God (if I may be so bold) for henceforth, they will be without excuse...

#244 buzzsawmonkey
Unlike the Biblical story, however--in which one woman says, "Let her have the child" and the other says, "It shall be neither mine nor yours; divide it," and Solomon determines that the first woman is the true mother...

Actually, it was Solomon who made the proposal that the child be divided, which prompted the woman to relinquish claim, which then was the impetus for Solomon's judgement.

Can you imagine at the airport if flying El Al.
Q: What is the purpose of your visit?
A: I wish to verify whether rockets are landing in Sderot.
Q: Business or pleasure?
A: Business I am the editor of an antisemitic, left wing blog.
Q: How long is your stay?
A: It depends on how long we meet with representatives of Al Fatah.
Q: You are planning a meet with Al Fatah?
A: Yes negotiators and public relations representatives.
Q: Who packed your bags?
A: My mom

Will the Israeli security let this guy in?
PS This is my first post

re: #106 lawhawk

This will not change the minds of the folks at DKos or MoveOn.org. They've got their worldview, and facts be damned.

That Sderot faces regular missile, rocket, and mortar barrages from Palestinian terrorists who seek to kill and injure Israelis at every turn doesn't fit that worldview. Israel's presence is the affront that must be confronted and removed for there to be peace according to the Palestinians and their useful idiots - the Dkos and MoveOn.org types included.

This trip will have little impact, except as to reinforce their perception that Israel must do more to accommodate Palestinian demands. More concessions. More givebacks. More. More. More.

And what will Israel get in return? More rockets and mortars slamming into its cities.

That's where this is headed.

Read some of that "editor's work" editor's obvious personal dementia.
That guy is sooo far into his denial fantasy, he's never coming back to reality. I give Israel an A for effort, but I know what the results will be.

I hope there is a followup on this. I'd like to see how they spin it.

"Among those participating in the tour are Daily Kos editor David Waldman and former Moveon.org lobbyist Tom Matzzie, who currently heads the anti-war ‘Campaign to Defend America’."
== == == == == ==

One can only hope for some event that brings into strong focus for these Liberal Left Loons what it's like for the CIVILIANS in Sderot to be the targets of random rocket fire from a hostile entity just over the border. Perhaps their moment of clarity could include suddenly realizing that our very own USofA is trying to push Israel to "accommodate" and "negotiate" with a bunch of homicidal misfits who only get along as long as they are actively trying to kill Jews and destroy Israel; when there's a pause in that endeavor they turn on each other like rabid rats...

Fucking Tourists...

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Thanks for the hat tip Charles!

;-/

re: #262 manic

PS This is my first post

Welcome aboard. Good, witty first post.

Ooops!

Wrong link!

Try this:
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Well if Israel can talk to Hamass and to the PLO and to the PA, they can certainly talk to these organizations' public relations people at DK, DUMB etc. I think they will get as far with these front organization blogs as they will with their masters in the ME, i.e. zero.

Welcome to the Board manic. Good times ahead.

Israel has a left of center government now and they imagine they can connect to these people. Of course they don't understand that no matter how many times they show them how evenhanded and fair Israel is being, they're only setting themselves up for a bigger kicking