interesting photo !

by the by, u have a neatly designed site .. good work.

Arafat's 'social security' plan.

Can't decide whether to puke or cry.

Awww, what a precious little splodeydope. Wonder if his name is Abdul or Muhammed. Doesn't matter much cause he'll never amount to anything other than a really yucky splat.

Written on the back:

Dear Dad,
We're so proud -- being parents is AMAZING! Check out this adorable outfit we found. Bomb sniffing dogs can't tell the difference between plastique and a full diaper, and we don't have to worry about leaving a stroller behind.

Even better -- he's already started walking! We might even be able to survive his martyrdom!

P.S. Tell Mom he just won't be able to carry all the nails she sent.

(Yes, I made all that up.)

Where did this photo come from? A cite/source would be nice.

Not to be a spoil sport or anything, but doesn't that look like a VERY caucasian child?

Do you think he'll win the Hamas Kiddie Bombers Pageant?

Well, here in America little girls (ex. Jon Bennet Ramses) are dressed up to be slutty porn pageant queens. If you ask me that's just as sick and disgusting as the above photo. Child abuse is child abuse. Our culture worships celebrities. Their culture worships suicide/homicide bombers.

We need to take a good hard look at our own morals and values as well. As long as you look Mc Swell, you're accepted, cherished, adored. If you don't, you're treated as insignificant. The point I'm getting at, is there is sickness in both cultures.

Whether dressing up a child with sticks of dynamite strapped around them or dressing up a 4 year old to look like Britney Spears or Greta Garbo, both reflect abuse of children. Both are unacceptable.

Yeah, I know someone will write, but these little girls don't grow up to be real suicide bombers. Well just marry one and see!

Judy, Arabs come in all colours. This, for example, is Hussein Ibish of CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations):

http://www.usatoday.com/community/_photos/ibish.jp g

On the other hand there are Arabs like Anwar Sadat who are very dark.

At first blush, I thought that the Palestinians have finally come up with baby photos that will be even MORE embarrasing to the depicted as adults than the bare-assed shots my mother and father took of me.

You know the ones... no, the baby ones. Not the ones when I was seventeen...

Anyway, then I realized that:

1) The parents and babies-adults will be proud of this insanity.

2) It's highly unlikely that they'll live that long.

#1 makes me sick.
#2 makes me hope the twisted bastard will die alone in a misfire or take some of his fellow terror-classmates in an accident.

If anything, I feel better about those bare-assed shots of myself.

I have seen the face of the enemy . . .

As Netanyahu said on Keyes last night. "This is the most poisoned society in history."

Well, here in America little girls (ex. Jon Bennet Ramses) are dressed up to be slutty porn pageant queens. If you ask me that's just as sick and disgusting as the above photo. Child abuse is child abuse. Our culture worships celebrities. Their culture worships suicide/homicide bombers.

Way to equivocate! Way to avoid the issue!

I'm not a fan of beauty pagents, but I've never seen any evidence they kill kids. They certainly don't kill busloads of people and embed nails into the flesh of the survivors.

I'd rather live in a culture that "worships" celebrities than one that "worships" murderers. I don't think the two are remotely comparable, and I think your comparison is disgusting.

Bossman-

With all due respect, I believe there are world of difference between parents using their children to glorify a pop star and parents using their children to glorify a person whose sole purpose is to kill as many women and children and possible.

True, Western society has its ills and flaws, but they shouldn't preclude us from pointing out obvious symptoms of sickness in other societies.

As Golda Meir once said, there will only be peace when the Palestinians love their children more than they hate the Jews.

I'm not holding my breath here.

We've already seen photos of palestinian children dressed up in dynamite garb. So this one is much younger. Maybe the next photo will show a Palestinian infant coming out of the womb with bomber fatigues. And everyone will get all excited again. We all know they are sick dumb FUCKS. This site points that out on a daily basis. They are poisoned and demented. But America should not hold itself up as holier than thou.

Just ask John Lennon, or his pal George Harrison who was stabbed several times (before cancer took him) about the attributes of a celebrity-worshipping culture.

The picture is much broader. Much broader than I'd care to explore here. But here's a little tidbit, America puts over 5 million of its "fat" people on Prozac to cover up its social ills. Ask any of these individuals if they're not living with a "death sentence" everytime they walk out their front door. There are more ways to murder a person than just physically.

(re:Geoff and your first paragrah...'Duh, no kidding!)

Bossman sounds like the type of halfwit (and that may be giving double the credit due) that Lileks screed' about last week. While America can't claim to be faultless, we most certainly CAN claim to be holier then morons like those that spawned the progeny pictured above.

I may be wrong, but I've never heard of Prozac being prescribed for obesity. Judging by the rambling, incoherent post I would think Bossman should look into Thorazine.

This is an obscenity.

I understand bossman's point that every society is "sick" in its own way, but I draw the line at the sickness that feels compelled to go out and murder those who practice the "wrong" religion or belong to the "wrong" race or ethnicity.

The U.S.'s problems stem, in part, from the unprecedented degree of personal autonomy afforded by our society; people like Jon-Benet Ramsey's benighted parents could do as they liked with their little darling, because our society makes a point of not judging the values or actions of individuals (unless they impinge on the rights of others).

This "live and let live" attitude is diametrically opposed to that in Arab countries, where to dissent is to end up severely beaten, imprisoned, tortured and/or dead.

And the analogy between encouraging a six-year-old to aspire to be a beauty queen and encouraging a six-year-old to aspire to be a suicide murderer is a stretch. From all accounts, little Jon-Benet loved dressing up and getting all that attention, and if she had lived to realize her aspirations, it wouldn't have hurt anyone else. You can't say the same about all of the kids who are raised to hate and kill.

Bossman has some kind of deep seeded self-loathing, how else do you explain the degree to which someone ignores the obvious evils of others (as exemplified in that photo) to seach for the smallest possible scrap of failing within their own culture?

Yes, we are holier then thou. How can you look at a picture of a child not yet old enough to walk who's body is covered in explosives - and really think America can come close to matching that depravity? Do you hate your own country so much>

It's my understanding that various Palestinians breed children for the sole and exclusive purpose of producing "smart" bombs. (I use the term "smart" in quotations to deflect any misunderstanding that the word is intended to describe the parents of the child.) The gestational period for a smart bomber is typically 14-20 years, and the cost, including meals, clothing, and shelter, can be expensive, but typically it's paid for by Arafat with EU money that gets funneled in the form of periodic paychecks for "security services" to the father of the smart bomber, who is usually a crony in one of the 22 wings of the local terrorist infrastructure.

A friend just sent me this link: [Link: www.jislamia.org...]

Look at these babies and weep.

I just want to know how Charles finds all this stuff.

Jeo-

Actually obese patients are put on anti-depressants frequently for weight loss. The theory is that if serotonin can be boosted enough in the obese, then they won't compulsively overeat. Unfortunately this method seldom works, as it ignores the underlying reasons for over eating and provides no alternative behavioral conditioning.

This particular picture is at this moment on the home page of Ha'aretz. [Link: www.haaretzdaily.com...]

With the caption: "A picture of a baby dressed as a suicide bomber, found Thurs. by the IDF in Hebron. (Photo: IDF)"

This photo is something that is very hard to accept but unfortunately it is the grim reality of the culture we are dealing with. This is a society that perpetuates its igonorance by what seems to be reproduction for the sole purpose of raising suicide bombers.

To those of you who brush this off as just a cultural flaw by comparing it to Jean Benet Ramsey and celebrity stalkers you are sorely mistaken. Stalkers and beauty pageant contestants are few and far between. Suicide bombars run rampant through all of Palestine. It's a territory that breeds and condones hatred for diversity. Remember that these people hate everyone that is not their definition of Muslim. It's very possible that one of them could be sitting next to you on your ride to work tomorrow.

I've read Bossman's posts elsewhere on LGF. He's with us. He's okay. He's just gotten a bee in his bonnet about the sickness in our society represented by celebrity worship and children's beauty pageants. We all have our little trips around the bend once in a while.

However, he came close to a point which I think is worth making. This country's obsession with sex and celebrity may have contributed to 9/11. We've been so distracted the last few years by the sexual habits of politicians and their interns (and had federal law enforcement distracted too), we really took our eye off the ball with regard to the dangerous wackos who were setting up to take down the U.S. It's also in the media. No one wanted to hear about Muslim extremists before 9/11, so they covered what people wanted to watch -- Monica, then Chandra 23/7. The other 1/7 was spent on Britney and Justin, or the cast of Friends (and the occasional weird crime, like JonBenet's murder or Tanya/Nancy).

I think in part because of that, American society looks immoral, weak and vulnerable to attack. And to some extent we were all three.

. . .

None of which has anything to do with the sick, sick picture of a toddler dressed as suicide bomber. It is the most disturbing picture of it's kind that I've seen yet. The child himself looks absolutely horrified.

Give me a sex/celebrity-obsessed culture over a death-obsessed one any day. But I'd rather not have to make that choice.

I don’t think it’s labeled as “prozac” but people do take it’s generic form, fluoxetine for weight loss. It's also relabled "serefem" to be marketed for PMS.

From [Link: www.doitnow.org...]
One of the SSRI's [the class of drugs Prozac belongs to]"best" side effects — or, at least, most users' favorite — is appetite reduction and weight loss. In fact, that was a big reason that Prozac found fame so fast.
In one study, 65 percent of Prozac users lost at least a pound during a six-week testing period.
And two tests involving subjects who were overweight but not depressed made Prozac (and presumably the subjects) look even better, with an average loss of 10 pounds over 8 weeks.
On the other hand, Prozac doesn't fight fat for everyone. In fact, underweight people tend to gain weight while on the drug. And although researchers aren't sure why, they suspect it's linked to Prozac's effects on serotonin and its role in appetite control.

"Not to be a spoil sport or anything, but doesn't that look like a VERY caucasian child?"

"On the other hand there are Arabs like Anwar Sadat who are very dark"

Arabs ARE caucasians.
Sadat wasn't a full blooded Arab. He was half Sudanese, that is why he was so dark.

Thanks for the link, but the photo was not on their home page anymore.

I did, however, find it at:

[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

HEY GUYS!!!!

Here is the excuse the Hamas gives us for the picture...

[Link: www.palestine-info.co.uk...]

Shit, no-one who has a heart condition should visit that above link. I'm sure I didn't read in the official death stats that 400 Pal kiddies had been "murdered". And they called Israel's recent incursion into Ramallah a "pogrom"?!. Off with their nuts!

And what would these fuckheads know about democracy anyway?

Yes here is the logic of the Arab mouthpiece.

Typical statement:

This is a Zionist forgery aimed at justifying Jewish apartheid racist Nazi's . . . look at this desperate child who has no hope and . . . who is a hero and a martyr who will resist the zionist nazis by blowing himself up and killing jews.

They can never get their stories straight. They claim that Israel makes all this stuff up and then they confess to doing it claiming that it is their birthright to kill Jews. Twisted logic from twisted people.

I fel so sorry for that child I could weep.

He looks like he knows his parents want him dead. So sad.

===========================

On another sad note here are two paragraphs from my dope war article of the week. It is not just sex that is making us take our eye off the ball. Published yesterday.:

I think it is interesting to look back at how myopic drug prohibition made the FBI in the recent past. Raed Hijazi a confidential FBI drug informant in the early 90s begged the FBI to look into the activities of Al Qaeda terrorists. All the FBI was interested in was a another photo op drug bust. This was reported in the 17 Oct 2001 Boston Herald. This report was too late to prevent 9/11. But the information can be used today to course correct our government.

And course correcting it needs, badly. The FBI is still way over committed to drugs. Arianna Huffington says that even with the reorganization there will be over 2,000 agents still on prohibition and less than 1,600 fighting terrorism. An improvement is not a revolution. And what is badly needed is a revolution.

From that top link:

Pogrom In Ramallah: Isn't Israeli 'Democracy' Wonderful?

What exactly is this supposed to mean, I wonder?

It's interesting that every time you post one of these, the usual suspects show up and spout the usual perfunctory oaths and veiled sand-n***** invectives. But when you post something constructive, as you did a few posts down or up (I forget which, but it's on the front page), hardly anyone has anything to say ... because it's more difficult to actually discuss topics intellectually than to indulge the same outrage over and over like some sick obsession.

I happen to think Arab society, such as it is, is indeed diseased right now. Their culture is viral right now, and not in a good way. But a lot of what I read here in the feedback/comments seems to cross the line into flat-out hate speech, and is also pretty negative and diseased. What does it say about a bunch of people who keep picking at the same scab, wallowing in the same pus. You could apply this criticism to the Arab street, and also to this forum. Do you also read books about serial killers? I mean, really, get a constructive hobby.

And regardless of the politics, that picture is of a baby who should be pitied. I feel sick when I see such things, but the sickness isn't angry, it's just sorrowful. For all our sakes we need to figure out how to stop this. The Palestinians are just humans, like anyone else. The extremity of their predicament has made them insane, but they obviously aren't born that way. I've seen this happen to some Israelis, to, albeit to a far far far lesser extent. I'm speaking of the settlers who threaten to wage war on their own government if any sort of peace is brokered, who use Palestinians for target practice. Yes, these things also happen.

For the record, I'm an Israeli. I know the pain of daily terror only too well. I also know that hate and anger and misinformation are a huge component of the problem. I won't become infected by them. I grieve a culture that adapts itself around suicide, and I condemn the Machiavellian politics of the Arab world at large, which has no real compassion for the Palestinians either, but merely uses them as a tool of misdirection while history passes them by. I am also ashamed of some of my countrymen who think the only good Palestinian is a dead one, or perhaps a janitor.

But babies? I don't hate babies. I won't give into hate. That wouldn't make me that much better than the person who dressed that child up like that. Whether you've murdered people in your heart or with your hands ... once you've watched enough people die, it ceases to be a distinction. So think about that.

Morality? What's that? We're animals, all of us, in different and sometimes confused ways.

(And please spare me any curses of "self-hater" or "equivocator" or what have you. I just happen to know that condemnation and anger is a very thin skin on a very deep wound.)

Thank you.

Abram, I don't think any of us hates babies, least not this one. But don't think that you're better than us for not hating the adults who do this to him.

The difference between Jon Bennet and this poor child is I think the majority of Americans were somewhat horrified when they saw Jon Bennet dolled up to look sexy.

Should any one care to read the rest of the column it can be found here:

[Link: www.mapinc.org...]

Ruprecht

You're so right.

That's exactly what the difference is.

Well, James, he's certainly better than a bunch of intellectually lazy armchair enthusiasts who invest blood feuds on distant plains with all the bluster they would ordinarily reserve for a football match.

Which means what, Anne?

Reading about Prozac, got me to thinking...

What about a massive Zionist plot to add Prozac to Palestinian drinking water. A few months in happy land and negotiations will be possible.

abraham

In 10 years, after that baby grows up enough to don a real explosive belt, he will do everything in his power to kill as many of you Israelis as possible. Surely you know this.

How much longer do you Israelis think you have before you are attacked by Arabs with nuclear weapons? Here in the U.S., we are paranoid of some unpredictable nuclear terror attack, but I think it will happen to Israel first.

You may have a soft heart, but those warm fuzzy feelings are the reason you guys have been taking a pounding for centuries. You should have killed them all in 1948.

please don't take this the wrong way, i'm not saying the children aren't indoctrinated at that age, but that's got to be a fake.

the whole background is missing, like it's supposed to be fire- or water-damaged, but the child is miraculously untouched. you can even see his little fingers and the pupils in his eyes. it's just too faked-looking. damaged photos don't look like that.

redsugar,

Who said it was fire- or water-damaged? That looks like a black curtain in the background to me.

Abram,

Morality? What's that? We're animals, all of us, in different and sometimes confused ways.

No, we are not animals. No animal has ever displayed the behavior some people have. The fact that you can still feel kindly towards those who would kill you shows that you are no animal either.

I agree that some of the people that post here have been overtaken by hatred. The rest of us would be more than willing to accommodate the Islamic world if they would only accommodate us. Some of the people who regularly post here are very evenhanded in their treatment of the Palestinian issue.

We are constantly outraged because the Islamic world never ceases to act outrageously. Your comment about "picking at the same scab" suggests that if just pretend that nothing bad is happening then the problem will simply heal and go away.
Do you really believe that?

Abram, you wrote a good written post that exposes a lot of the vitriol that gets released here. Please feel free to come back. I'll think you'll fid that plenty of good discussions happen between our well justified expressions of outrage.

umm, that's a "well written post"

Can somebody tell me how to turn the italics off?

I couldn't find the picture at either of the links provided above, but I found it here:

[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

It doesn't say anything about the photo being damaged.

Read Nealz Nuze today. A radio listener of his apparently asked whether hymns are sung at mosques. He joked (it was a joke, people) that he disguised himself and attended a service where the following was sung:

Allah loves the little children.
All the little children of the world.
Red and Yellow, Black and White.
Loaded down with dynamite.
Allah loves the little children of the world.

Naturally, he received a ration for this. I hope Mr. Boortz sees this picture and responds to those crtics.

Can somebody tell me how to turn the italics off?

<i>This text appears in italics</i>

Can somebody tell me how to turn the italics off?

<i>This text appears in italics.</i> This text doesn't.

Thank you.

A lowly Canadian conservativette asks: Isn't it more accurate to say that Clinton was so busy getting blowjobs that he didn't have his eye on the, uh, ball re: terrorism? So blinded by a PC hatred of racial profiling that he ignored awful crimes that happened on his watch (USS Cole, WTC '93, Lockerbie, the embassy bombings)?

I'm not one of those crazy Waco wackos, but it seems like Clinton was more interested in killing Christian weirdos than Islamic ones.

The Jon Benet thing is so stupid. Her beauty pag. participation was completely incidental to her murder. None of the lefties who use the default "What about Jon Benet" trope never say, "What about the wife swappers whose kid got killed" 'cause hey, they wouldn't dream of criticizing a couple's free love ethos.

Well, I'd like someone to explain the photo (with caption) in this article to me. Doesn't look as if the unemployed are all that unhappy. Maybe a little on the skinny side, but not bad in a bikini.

Since when is a picture a representation of reality anymore? Remember O.J.'s 5 o'clock shadow on the cover of TIME? Can you say p-h-o-t-o-s-h-o-p. Wake up folks! I'll paypal five dollars to the fifth emailer so you can buy not one but FIVE clues!

Since when is a picture a representation of reality anymore?

That is true. But this photograph isn't exactly the first and only clue that there's something of a death cult going on over there.

David, thanks.

That interesting article points out that Israel's own economic policies (certainly compounded by the PA's corruption, mind you) have contributed to the financial predicament of many Palestinians -- helping to deny them an infrastructure while keeping them dependent on Israel for menial jobs ... sounds like a recipe for mass resentment to me, n'est-ce-pas?

And as we all know, poverty and despair are the handmaidens of militancy. A lot of people have fucked the Palestinians up and over, and now they're so fucked up that they just fuck themselves over too. But my point is, Israel's no angel in all this.

I shouldn't have to qualify that statement with an affirmation of Israel's valid right to defend itself and to exist in peace, but I will, since people get shitty-mean pretty fast round these parts. But the fact remains.

abram writes:

It's interesting that every time you post one of these, the usual suspects show up and spout the usual perfunctory oaths and veiled sand-n***** invectives.

Well, something that awful elicits a response. I'd be more worried if people treated it as routine. Baby dressed as a suicide murderer... yawn... what else is new...

But when you [Charles] post something constructive, as you did a few posts down or up (I forget which, but it's on the front page), hardly anyone has anything to say ... because it's more difficult to actually discuss topics intellectually than to indulge the same outrage over and over like some sick obsession.

Perhaps you refer to Palestine's deliverance? Not much to say there, other than "yep." Someone could come and disagree, and then a discussion would start, but otherwise... "yep."

Other things that cause interest or outrage elicit more responses. An entire organization was started because of an entry about some UN abuses.

For all our sakes we need to figure out how to stop this. The Palestinians are just humans, like anyone else. The extremity of their predicament has made them insane, but they obviously aren't born that way.

Yes indeed the Palestinians are humans like anyone else. No, the "extremity of their predicament" didn't make them insane or murderous. That was accomplished by decades of vicious anti-Israel and anti-Jewish propaganda, made possible in no small part by the benign neglect Arafat's PLO enjoyed in the Territories since the Oslo accords. This is also why the Israelis are markedly less "insane," and why your examples are so unusual. (By your logic, the Israelis ought to be entirely desperate and genocidal, being surrounded by a billion hostile Muslims calling for their deaths, without enough territory to even grow their own food, shunned and spit on by much of the "international community," and sitting on enough firepower to make their problems go away in a week or so... yet they are not. Why?)

I also know that hate and anger and misinformation are a huge component of the problem.

Indeed they are -- largely on the Arab side. Which is why you won't see the Jerusalem Post or Yedioth Aharonoth publish "exposés" of how Arabs drink the blood of Jewish babies, or dancing in the streets of Netanya whenever Arab children die from a gunfight in Tulkarem, or an Israeli ambassador writing odes of admiration to Baruch Goldstein.

Yet Arabs produce a bargeful of this vile bilge every month.

But babies? I don't hate babies. I won't give into hate.

I don't think anyone here hates babies in general, or the particular baby in the photo, though I admit I haven't carefully studied every post. Most of the disgust comes at adults who dress their children up like suicide-murderers. It's doubly horrifying: not only are the parents teaching their child that it's OK to kill people for being Israelis before he even knows how to walk, but they also treat him like a little walking bomb, instead of a full-fledged human being. They have no plans for his future, no hopes for his life; their ultimate goal is to send him to die at a young age, with the hope that he kills a few Israelis when he does. People who thus send their children to slaughter violate the most fundamental principle of what it means to be a parent -- hell, to be a person. Such actions are deserving of outrage, and a "culture" that praises them earns nothing but scorn and revulsion. Nothing racist about that, and it's not a symptom of hate or misinformation.

Morality? What's that? We're animals, all of us, in different and sometimes confused ways.

I sincerely hope that was sarcasm, but I fear it isn't. Again, by this standard, Israel should have napalm-bombed Ramallah and Tulkarm, carpet-bombed Southern Lebanon, and turned Damascus, Beirut, Cairo, Riyadh, Baghdad, Tehran, and (what the hell) Brussels into radioactive piles of debris a long time ago. With that one sentence, you also managed to negate your entire lecture on how we shouldn't give in to "hate and fear" -- after all, if your reasons for that aren't moral, what are they? Take away morality, and just what is it that prevents Israel from turning every Arab within firing range into ash? After all, they are just "animals," fighting for survival. Morality is the only thing that keeps Arabs alive -- and it certainly isn't their own morality.

So think about that.

Since when is a picture a representation of reality anymore? Remember O.J.'s 5 o'clock shadow on the cover of TIME? Can you say p-h-o-t-o-s-h-o-p. Wake up folks! I'll paypal five dollars to the fifth emailer so you can buy not one but FIVE clues!

I suppose the picture could be a fake, and in any other contest, it would be. But I've seen enough photos and videos of Palestinian children dressed up as shaheeds or other sundry characters, that I have no trouble taking this photo as genuine.

(And what's with the constant references to 5? Using a secret code or something?)

I suppose the picture could be a fake, and in any other contest, it would be.

Wow, I really need to proofread more. That should say

I suppose the picture could be a fake, and in any other context, it would be suspect.

Banf -

I think you're missing the point here and this is something that the Ha'Aretz lefties probably won't tell you, but the GDP per capita in the West Bank and Gaza is about one fifth now what it was when Arafat and his cronies took over. I don't think you can blame this on Israeli policy, in fact, quite the contrary.

Furthermore, I've had enough of people telling me that Israel is to blame for Palestinians not being able to work in Israel. This is absurd. If the Palestinians would stop killing Jews, they would be let in to work. They have no "right to work" in Israel. If they want to keep killing Jews, hell if Israel should let them in to work.

Go back to AG (#28) and scroll down to the article about Palestinian civil war. It reports on the "official" Hamas position re "the next stage."

"The Hamas political bureau chief underlined that his Movement's strategy in the upcoming stage focused on three axes namely; retaining resistance, unity of the Palestinian people behind the resistance option and uniting Arab and Islamic stands toward continuation of resistance."

I think they mean to resist. (By the way, sic on all the punctuation.)

"He underlined that heavenly religions, international law, UN resolutions and ethics and history affirm legitimacy of resistance."

Relating to another point in that article, Bigbad, and this just addresses my curiosity: is what it says about Israeli inequities pertaining to the dispensation of Palestinian taxation benefits true? Its seems pretty unseemly that they would tax them while denying them infrastructure and a "right" to work. That sounds sort of like colonialism.

I'm interested in all this from all the angles, but it's often difficult to isolate the facts. On account of the passions (understandably) involved, people get worked up/defensive/offensive very quickly.

(Also, E. Nough -- I think Abram just meant that we're all flesh and blood ultimately. Killing each other is the same as killing ourselves -- slaughter, animals, so on, so forth. But I'm just guessing. Maybe he's a vegan, lol.)

prozac in palestines water supply? Valium is more in order.

I actually think sedatives in the water supply would help the world in general. Heck, if they can fluoridate water....

bigbad said:

"They have no "right to work" in Israel. If they want to keep killing Jews, hell if Israel should let them in to work. "

The pals are lucky the israelis let them LIVE, under the circumstances.

Sheesh.

And i hope EVERY dollar or shekel of taxes the israelis were meant to turn over to the PA under Oslo gets diverted to pay damages to the israeli vicitms of the pals started.

In reference to abram's #34 post.....

I think that post is just as attacking as most of what I have read here today. Yes, most of the time this comment section is a place for people to get together and exchange ideas. But sometimes, it is a place to vent at the end of the day for a lot of these injustices we see where others will here.

I try my damndest to be a rational, logical person most of the time. I hear politicians on all sides speak and I think about my opinions on what can resolve these issues with the least amount of lives lost on any side.

But then I see a pic like this and I am just filled with anger. Of course no child is born with these views but for the parents of this child, and apparently an accepting society, to fill this child with these views before he can even walk! That is just evil! How do you deal with evil? You destroy it.

(The Irish blood won't be denied)

But then a little while later I will calm somewhat and try to think of it from a more logical and less "animalistic" view.

Sorry to post twice in a row....

But I forgot to add that the "sand-......" comment wasn't needed. Those kind of racial slurs, even as a desription of what others might think, is not needed. I think most people here would feel the same about Pals if they were white, red, yellow, black, purple, or green. The views, I think, arise from the actions of the Pals not color.

Jon Benet's parents wanted her dead, and Islamakazie baby's parents want him dead too. The difference is that a lot of ululating fuckheads will congratulate Islamakazie's parents, and envy them for the money that Saddam and our "friends" the Arabs will give them. Agreed that there is no similarity between beauty queens and explodababies, but bossman's point that too many people see their children as exploitable and expendable, is well taken.

That was a cheap shot I took at the Ramseys; I don't think we will ever know who killed her, so saying that her parents wanted her dead, was just grabbing at a quick analogy. Unfortunately, I go for cheap shots. It seemed to fit at the time. Honesty and fairness compel me to retract it.

I think it is asking a lot for people not to get emotional when confronted with such savagery.
The photo speaks volumes about the destructive nature of the Palestinian people. Other people in history have had awful, unfair things happen to them, yet they valued their children and they gave their own lives for the future of their children. Yet here we see Palestinian parents fighting for the deaths of their children. I can't see any amount of desperation turning my children (I have six) into human bombs.

Those who started this whole mindset are just plain evil. Yes, I do believe that evil people exist and no amount of rationalizing why they do what they do will change that basic truth. How sad that so many parents have fallen for this wickedness.

That photo is definitely a fake. You can see the original right here.

Good one! mr crash davis.

mr_crash_davis,

While I love comedy, IMHO it does not belong with this photo. To make any representation of this photo humorous kinda trivializes the point a lot of us are trying to make. That teaching a an infant these views and disgustingly exploiting them like this is wrong. Evil in my view.

J. Finney:

While I agree with you that anyone who would teach a child that blowing himself up is something to which he should aspire, I disagree that humor trivializes it. On the contrary, I think that any culture that's so callous about the lives of its children deserves, at the very least, to be mocked as rudely and as often as possible.

That should read:

"While I agree with you that anyone who would teach a child that blowing himself up is something to which he should aspire is evil..."

Apologies for the confusion.

Point taken mr_crash_davis. I was just responding to the guilt I was feeling after laughing at your post. To laugh at anything with that pic as the base I did not like. Just one simple man's opinion.

The shame is that the Arabs practice child abuse. Is it not a vicious form of abuse to brainwash a child from birth with the sole purpose to kill others. Why is a people that is this malfescant worthy of having an independent state? It would be a land of pathological child-abusers and killers. The mystery is how the left-wing which is supposed to be so loving and caring, coddles these psychopaths.

Everyone is worried about giving the Arabs hope. I'll give them hope: I hope they leave the West bank and move elsewhere.

Here's an idea for any serious human rights group willing to be objective in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict: Why not take up the cause of child abuse by Palestinian parents. Dressing a three-year old up to look like a suicide bomber is child abuse. Indoctrinating children to want to grow up to be murderers and suicide bombers is child abuse. If this were going on in a self-respecting society, the parents of that kid would be in front of a family court judge trying to explain why they shouldn't lose custody as unfit parents.

By the way, all these Palestinian mothers and fathers waxing eloquent about how proud and happy they will be if their children become suicide bombers (and even the few cases on record where the parents have aided and abbetted their child in his/her "martyrdom operation" ) bring to mind an ancient and long-abandoned Near Eastern religious custom: Child sacrifice! In the Jewish, Christian and Muslim traditions this stopped with Abraham. But throughout the Muslim world today - and particularly among the Palestinians - we seem to be witnessing a throwback to Pagan times, with Muslim parents being willing to make a religious sacrifice of their children, much like the worshippers of Moloch.

Palestinians really need to take a long hard look of what is becoming of their civilization.

Uzi Amit-kohn

Good idea.

You should forward your idea to Kofi Annan.

Let's how he makes that one Israel's fault.

But throughout the Muslim world today - and particularly among the Palestinians - we seem to be witnessing a throwback to Pagan times, with Muslim parents being willing to make a religious sacrifice of their children, much like the worshippers of Moloch.

Child sacrifices and blood rituals -- remember the kindergarten "graduation ceremony"?

I asked a few threads ago what this is doing to the "proper Islam" Palestinians are supposed to be following. I'd love to put that question to some terrorist-loving imam and hear the answer.

Uzi Amit-kohn,

Here's the problem: If the "human rights" community has accepted that suicide/homicide bombing is an acceptable and proper form of resistance (and it seems to have done just that), and if the bombers are "freedom fighters" and not terrorists, then why not dress one's toddler as a splodeydope?

After all, children in the US dress as firefighters for Halloween, in part because we think a firefighter is a good and noble thing to be. (Or as discussed above, some people here dress their little girls as Vegas show girls because they think a celebrity is the most valuable thing to be.)

Pals think the highest and best use of a human life is termination it in a way that causes the end of as many other human lives as possible (at least Jewish ones). Therefore, they dress their toddlers as suicide bombers.

If the international community accepts the legitimacy of people strapping on real bombs and setting them off in a crowd of children and their grandmothers, then it won't have a problem with parents strapping fake bombs on their kids. ("It shows the depths of their despair.")

It's a sick, sick condition. Unfortunately, the human rights groups, the EU, the UN . . . are among the infected.

I think Denise hit on a really interesting point, and if I may carry it a step further.

Doesn't it show the utmost hypocrisy to "admire" the behaviour in the adults yet express outrage at their modelling children after these "heroes."

Why is it that Europe can accept and applaud these genocide bombers as adults, yet look in horror at the "expression," of those same values by children?

Anne (post #39),

"Blood feuds on distant plains" thinking is a folly. If allowed to succeed in Israel, jihadis is coming for the rest of the West next.

Also, the anger is partly underlied by the absence of catharsis after 9/11 (OBL's apparent slithering away, no Saudi towers crushed into dust etc.).

You know I have a 4 year old daugter, and she just had a dance recital, as anyone who tries to organize kids that younk knows, you have to practice a lot. Those people leading the kindergarten students spent most of the year practiing that abomination.
(By the way Caroline was a mouse and the kids danced to Jungle Book, so much for cultural equality.)

I love how liberals still haven't learned from Martin Luther King

"Do not judge on on the color of thier skin but rather by the content of thier character"

Isn't he cute! Abdul-- I am so proud of him! He reminds so much of Mohammed!

Of course, Pravda has the right idea; Israel should be permitted by the international community to stop screwing around: [Link: english.pravda.ru...]

NOt to worry: it won't be.

But aren't you all missing the marketing opportunity for the "Jihad Joe" dolls?