Notice how the Reuters caption includes ediotorializing that the celebration was because of US "backing" of Israel, while the others simply say what they were celebrating leaving the viewer to draw a different conclusion.

The world sees what it wants to see, that is why Israel will never win the PR battle. And Reuters will be there to skew it all.

I don't care what the leaders of the PA have to say. I don't care that the people who celegrated were largely uneducated and illiterate. It doesn't matter how oppressed they may feel. You don't have to be a PhD living in a Bainbridge Island waterfront home to know that the murder of 3000+ people in a country that you are not fighting against is probably not something to celebrate.

These people have brought on themselves whatever happens to them in the geopolitical sense. (My remarks are not mean't to excuse the PA's murder of so-called "collaborators" or the torture of 17 year old "witnesses".)

I'm just angry, really angry.

Awesome post, Charles. Here's a few more pics and more than a few articles about "Holy Tuesday."

[Link: www.businessweek.com...]

[Link: www.truepeace.org...]

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

[Link: cjonline.com...]

[Link: arabterrorism.tripod.com...]

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

[Link: memri.org...]

[Link: memri.org...]

The death threats go a long way in explaining the pro-Palestinian bias on the part of the media. The AP literally has guns pointed at the heads of its journalists.

My temple distributed pamphlets from standwithus.com, they're a great outlay of facts and can be ordered here: [Link: www.standwithus.com...]

The main site is here:
[Link: www.standwithus.com...]

a special site for students and alumni is here:
[Link: www.standwithuscampus.com...]

l'Shana Tovah
-Ratz

Great links NC.

Watching the Palestinians celebrating that day was jarring. I was screaming. I could not believe what I was seeing. Even now, a year later, I can't find the words to explain how I felt while watching that.

Seeing ugly, dark souls on display is a frightening experience.

Which, of course, is why the guy who runs GroupthinkCentral is arguing that, having had several months of quiet, the Israelis should now be making peace offerings to the Palestinians.

Ignoring, of course, the aborted mega-car bomb, etc.

I wonder, sometimes, what kind of world these folks believe in, or as a friend of mine once asked, "What is the color of the night sky in your universe?"

If I were a millionaire, I would commission thousands of billboards to be erected across Canada and the United States. The billboards would have, on one half, the twin towers burning with people leaping to their deaths, and on the other half, those palestinians celebrating the deaths of 3000 Americans.

Never forget. Never forget a damn thing.

That the liberal-left press seems to have overlooked this little detail is despicable and dishonest.

Peaceful religion indeed.

Just goes to show you once again that the Palis are their own worst enemies. On 9/11 a very liberal co-worker of mine, who had previously expressed mild pro-Pali views ("cycle of violence," "they're oppressed" views) became furious when he saw the footage of people on the West Bank celebrating. "I hope the Israelis kick their asses," he said. A year later, he is firmly in the anti-idiotarian camp, in fact, he's even more of a hawk than I am. The homicide bombings didn't do much to win him over. I believe a poll showed that only 10% of Americans are firmly pro-Pali, although that 10% does an awful lot of squawking.

The truly sickening thing was seeing Arafat trying to patch things up by giving blood a few days later. Who the hell would want Arafat's blood? Like a victim of the London Blitz getting a kidney donation from Goering.

Ratz, I wanted to thank you for holding down the fort in the nazis thread, an extremely noble act on your part. I started to patrol it a day ago, but the thing has since been archived, and whaddyaknow, there are still some folks posting there. Mommydoc made a good contribution. The present trolls aren't as bad as the earlier ones, and Tokugawa may have been banned. I just hated the idea of a bunch of nazis holding court on our LGF (apologies to Charles, of course). But it seems to be petering out. Many Best Wishes to you, and of course to Zulubaby, and to the others who posted here; I've really appreciated your contributions.

Nathan,

Good job on 'Caught in the Crossfire'. I haven't been commenting there but I have been watching it.

Tokugawa has not been banned-yet, although I think Charles did warn him. He's posting on other threads.

Donna V.,

Watching Arafat giving blood from his old, crinkled, terrorist arm made me want to throw up. That image will stay with me forever. Repulsive.

Thank you Zulubaby, "The praise of the praiseworthy is above all rewards." (a fictious character from Tolkien)

I think he just got hit with the BanHammer. All his posts just vanished.

Well that's a relief.

It makes things tiresome when the nazikidz hijack threads.

Just as National Geographic tracked down the girl from the cover with the mysterious eyes, perhaps one day the world will track down the people from these photos. Let's hope that the meeting is not one of nostalgia.

These photos just go to show the way things really are... I say we put more photographers in the West Bank and Gaza to take MORE shots of these so-called *peaceful* people, while they're partying it up over deaths of Americans, and other forward-thinking western nations.

Yep, just let em keep digging their graves a little deeper.

Their pleas for sympathy are becoming less and less noticeable over the stench of bullshit (and probably B.O.) coming off these people.

Tatterdemalian, he's still got posts turning up in the LGF search engine.

Gosh, I just love those photos...they changed my entire way of thinking about the Palestinian situation and the "occupied territories".

To those dancing fools: We're a little bit busy now with Al Queda, Saddam, the House of Fraud, etc., but eventually we'll have time for all of you. We have your pictures and we know where to find you.

Thank you for a site that spreads truth. l'Shana Tovah.

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N A P A L M, thats how you deal with these savages... I'd like to see them dance then LOL...

The sickest photo of all is the dude in the Chicago Bears jersey waving his hands in the air like he just don't care. With his wallet he loves America, with his heart he hates us. Asshole.

r.

Donna V. #10,

"The truly sickening thing was seeing Arafat trying to patch things up by giving blood a few days later. Who the hell would want Arafat's blood?"

No, I guess it would be considered a biological terrorist attack.

BTW, I read somewhere that he and the doctors knew full well that his blood would not be suitable for donation, due to the Alzheimer medication doctors shoot into his bloodstream. It was just a cover-up photo-opportunity, just like the staged mourning parade with children waving signs written in *English*, mobilized by the PA, just a day after Palestinians and other Arabs in the Middle East had spontaneously found it in their hearts to celebrate and cheer the terrorist mass murder in New York.

Tatter (#5):

With regard to the Pal-Arab strategy of silencing whomever they don't like, see SECOND HALF of article entitle "Musings Following The World Summit for Sustainable Development (WSSD), Johannesburg, August 2002" , posted Sept 6, at Dawson Speaks, [Link: www.dawsonspeek.com...]
or at IsraPundit. Also see Tomas Friedman's "From Beirut to Jerusalem".

Corvus (#9),

What a great idea. I'd say put those billboards up across the world.

Can these pricks and assholes ever becme good neighbours?

Id says kill, but superego says transfer.

Transfer, then.

During the darkest days of the Ayatollah there was an earthquake in Iran and the USA didn't gloat, we sent aid packages. The Iranian people showed their support for the US after the Sept 11 attacks even when their goverment didn't like it.

Despite genocidal attempts over and over the US has supported the Palestinians with cash to Arafat, and cash through aid to the refugees and all they can see is that Isreal gets more, more more. Somehow the Palestinians have put themselves into a different league entirely.

In fact, all these celebrations happened all across islamic world: starting from Morocco in the West to Indonesia in the East. Years of appeasing (Kuwait, Bosnia, Kosovo) this scum of the earth really paid off. Never forget! September 11 was a wake-up call.

I wasn't angry September 11th. Which surprised me, really; I would have expected to have been in an incoherent rage at least part of the time. The plane crashes didn't do it to me. The images of destruction, the shock, the victims on the street, the frantic families asking whether anyone had seen their loved ones, the friends hanging on the telephone to find out whether their relatives had made it. The implications didn't do it either. Not the fact that we were at war, not the declaration of that war in a sneak attack on civilians.

No. What did it to me was seeing Arabs dance, sing, honk horns, wave "Victory" signs, and draw even their children into this obscene behavior. I looked at that... and a red curtain sheeted across my vision, and I felt all the rage I hadn't felt seeing the destruction and thinking about so many people dead.

The rage hasn't lasted. But the disgust has.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

I was a liberal fence sitter, a devotee of the economist, pbs, and NPR--until I heard about the celebrations last year. It was nice of them to unwrap the cloak of their 'narrative' long enough for me and many other Americans to see their true faces.

Support Israel? Certainly. Where do I sign? On this line? Alright.

Zulubaby:

Re Bakri (from your link) I posted the following on my blog...

Positive outcomes, eh? 70 of them?

Muslims now know who the enemy is? By declaring us your enemy, you're setting yourself up as ours.

Remember, buddy boy, one of Murphy's laws of war:

Tracers work both ways. And you're firing off a lot of bright ones.

J.

JLawson,

Here's something interesting...

"Police said then that they had insufficient evidence to prosecute him (Bakri) for racial incitement, but would monitor his activities."

Hopefully they don't live to regret not prosecuting him.

It seems bizarre that this is even allowed.

No 9/11 coverage would be complete without showing a video of the Palis dancing with joy. If a video is not available, then show the pictures.

Americans needed to be reminded again why they're on Israel's side.

Seeing the pictures of the Palis partying and celebrating is as important as seeing the WTC photos to keep us focused on what the war on terror is really about. I am sure we won't be seeing these on "Remembrance Day" because we are supposed to hold candles and sing songs and come together in tolerance. Pure evil must never be tolerated.

I hope Charles will post these same pictures each year so that we do remember.

Zulubaby:

Makes you wonder what they would consider 'sufficient evidence'...

J.

Rob Hartsock, likely that shirt he was wearing came from charity cast-offs or a second hand clothing store.

My posting above didn't work, so:
Pamphlets from standwithus.com, they're a great outlay of facts about the TRUTH of what the Palesitians are doing. Most of the stuff is what I've seen at many Pro-Israel sites, but this group is working to put it out in print; the fliers can be ordered here: [Link: www.standwithus.com...]

The main site is here:
[Link: www.standwithus.com...]

a special site for students and alumni is here:
[Link: www.standwithuscampus.com...]

I also noticed that the link to reuters' images, do you think that they removed the archive? Talk about censorship...

l'Shana Tovah
-Ratz

JLawson #37:

Makes you wonder what they would consider 'sufficient evidence'...

I am getting slightly weary of this constant knocking of Britain.

Are you saying that in your opinion Bakri's statements would constitute a criminal offence under US law? If so, what offence? If not, please give us break.

Zulubaby, thank you for that link.

zulubaby...

here is the same story...by Associated Press..

look at the difference...

[Link: www.lasvegassun.com...]

Kolya wrote:

Are you saying that in your opinion Bakri's statements would constitute a criminal offence under US law?

I seriously doubt it. Which is to say, I sure hope not.

I say let Bakri and his ilk exhibit their hate for all to see. Let them shove it right under people's noses, where they can smell it for what it is. The effect for most, I think, will be the kind of revulsion we get from viewing these celebration photos ... followed, hopefully, by cold determination and resolve.

Interesting and ironic to see pal's in nike hats and nfl jerseys, dancing to the distruction of our citizens. 75% of these sand nazies must die die anu.

1 jew indivisible,

Are you really a Jew?
And if so, what do you believe in (other than mass murder)?

Ford should have killed Arafat. Carter should have killed the mullahs. Reagan should have killed Khadaffy. Bush should have killed Hussein. Clinton should have killed Bin laden.
The rabies virus is an interesting thing. It lives in the mucus glands and rewires the brain to fear water, so it will not be diluted. It knows it must find host after host to live, so it rewires the brain to attack.
It will not be negotiated with. It will not be appeased. Nor will it be bound by a treaty. It must infect & kill, forever.
This is our enemy. Only God can change their hearts. We pray for this. Until that time, they must be ruthlessly dealt with. Suppressed, subjugated, imprisoned & killed when necessary.
Do not avert your eyes, or everything you hold dear, everything good & decent, will be taken from you. There is an Immutable Law of Self- defense. Do not be fooled by Pacifism & Appeasement. They are Godless doctrines' infantile in conception, genocidal in application. If you do not love your children & neighbors enough to protect them from this virus, you most assuredly do not love your enemy & you reject the First Law written on the heart of man.
These perverted doctrines fail even on pragmatic grounds, as they must. Reveiw the list of failures to strike the Death Blow in the first paragraph, and ask yourself; which of my children would I give up, that the Virus might live?

No, we must not napalm the Palestinians. Take a look again at their schools and the parents who dress up their babies in mock suicide outfits. Think of the horror of having Arafat as your president and Hamas as your police force. And think of all those Palestinians who have been murdered for "collaboration" with the Israelis, and consider what is defined as collaboration.

We do no hear any other voices but those that are allowed to speak by Arafat and his thugs. I won't damn a whole people because some, or even most of them are evil anti-life monstrosities. I won't become anti-life myself. I want to save those worth saving, or I have lost myself.

Neither ought we to call for the suppression of speech, no matter how offensive it is to us. That is their way of doing things, not ours.

They don't all have to be killed. Just enough so that they realize that what they are calling for is not going to accomplish anything other than their own destruction. They need to understand that if they are to live in the world, they must respect others' right to life. They must understand that they do not have the ultimate answer and are therefore superior to the rest of humanity.

Believe how you want. Just don't believe that you have a superior birthright than I do, and by that birthright, have the right to commit murder on all who disagre with you.

It has been hard for me to come to this point. When I saw those children celebrating, all I could think was that here is the next generation of terrorists. A vast graveyard can't be the answer. We must learn how to neutralize these ideas or we will only face them over and over - just as we have since before the crusades.

NOTE: When these people were cheering, they were not cheering 3,000 deaths, they were cheering what was thought to be up to 50,000 deaths.

Here is a video of the celebration:

[Link: www.mideasttruth.com...]

And here are other very important videos everyone in the world should see:

[Link: www.mideasttruth.com...]

Wait a minute. Right from the beginning, these savages have refused to acknowledge that Muslims committed the atrocities. If so, what were they celebrating? Shouldn't they all be hunted down and butchered as collaborators for celebrating a successful Mossad operation?

Thanks for the links NC, and by the way, you will not find this story on CNN.com. A search for "Palestinian" and "celebration" yields stories prior to 9/11, but not this one. They have tried to erase it from history.

Thank goodness for Fox News, who has the courage to tell the truth.

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

Dee Bates, #47,

You do realize that polls indicate the majority of Palestinian Arabs support continued suicide attacks against Israeli civilians right?

[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

This is not just a Hamas thing, this is supported by the 'regular' people.

You may feel sorry for 'the people' who have been indoctrinated into Arafat's Cult of Death against their will, but the fact remains, this generation is already gone.

Arafat needs to go, Israel or the UN needs to forcefully control 100% of the entire region for the next 30 years, until a generation of children are programmed to live normal lives (math, science, history, social skills), and any children still young enough, are also de-programmed (much like the de-programming of Hitler Youth).

Anything less, will not lead to a viable solution. Every successive generation under those who teach and promote Jew hatred, murder, terrorism, and the destruction of Israel, will be lost -- until someone forcefully breaks the cycle of youth indoctrination.

Imagine if Japan and Germany behaved the same way after their defeat in World War II; instead of allowing themselves to be rebuilt into healthy, functioning societies, they would still be festering like Arafat's people.

"I won't become anti-life myself. I want to save those worth saving, or I have lost myself."
I'm with you so far, but...

"Neither ought we to call for the suppression of speech, no matter how offensive it is to us. That is their way of doing things, not ours."
I disagree with you here. I'd like to see celebrations of this sort "suppressed" with a few cluster bombs. If someone declares himself our enemy, we should take him seriously.

#47 Dee Bates: Very well articulated and with a solid grounding in your values. I think you struggled with this piece, but you clarified a lot of things for me. Thank You. BC

Came across this interesting presentation about how the US media, and especially the NY Times, buried stories of millions of Jews being murdered by Hitler. Jews literally bought advertising space in the NY Times to address the issue. I found the similarities to the way the media buries Palestinian brutality against Jews today remarkably similar:

[Link: www.newseum.org...]

And the Arab world cries of a "Zionist media conspiracy". It's no wonder Israel trusts no one, the Jews have been abandoned by the world so many times.

l'Shana Tovah everyone... wonder how much longer these joyfully dancing wastes of skin will be thinking they have cause to celebrate... look out folks, Israel is putting her foot down and they're about to have their come-uppance. Finally.
I think it may finally be a happy new year.

"When someone says he is going to kill you... believe him."

Here's further news about the radical bin Laden supporting Islamic group Al-Muhajiroun in London, which will organize a seminar on September 11 called "A Towering Day - The lessons, benefits and harm". One of the speakers will talk about "the positive outcomes" of September 11:

"The people at this conference look at September 11 like a battle, as a great achievement by the mujahideen against the evil superpower.

A poster advertising the conference
"I never praised September 11 after it happened but now I can see why they did it."

Mr Mohammed, who is entitled to stay in Britain although his 1980s claim for asylum failed, said that he would not stop al-Qa'eda members from joining the ICB.

He said: "We don't perceive them as the US perceives them; we see them as a sincere devoted people who stood firm against the invasion of a Muslim country."

[Link: news.telegraph.co.uk...]

Death of 3000 Americans brings hatred to my heart.

Death of 3000 Americans brings joy to their hearts.

What a backwards world they live in...

Why do people believe the choice is always between 'napalming' the palestinians into obliteration, submission, or extinction, versus coopting them into a 'peace process'?

There is a better way, more humane than crushing military action, and more historically just.

Transfer.

This war must not be fought by half measures. That only ensures more people will eventually die.
Churchill knew from ULTRA intercepts that the Nazis would bomb Coventry. He would not warn them because it would give away the fact that the code had been broken. This would have cost more lives in the long run. A full measure.
The UN & State Dept. got their way & Arafat was returned from exile. A half measure.
Which was sucessful?
Some speech must be suppressed. This is not a debating society we are speaking of. When one advocates the violent overthrow of democracies & the murder/enslavement of it's citizens, one has forfeited the rights of that society. Rights AND Responsibilities. I know it's a foreign concept to many in the era of all Rights, all the time.
There is a difference between murder & killing. We try not to kill non-combatants. They try to kill as many as possible. The policeman & the assassin are not moral equals.
After VICTORY, we can try to rehabilitate these societies. VICTORY FIRST.

Thanks for the thumbnails. If you're looking for the original photos, much larger/higher res, they can be found here:

[Link: www.yesha.org.il...]

Joe--

What a great find. I hope every pro-Israel blogger who reads this thread provides a link to that page on their site. I'm going to do so right now.

The Abu Hamza's and Mohammed Bakri's of this world are treading a ferociously thin line. Britain isn't really a very racist society any more - skin colour is a much less divisive thing than it used to be. I think what may well be happening is that it is becoming more intolerant of the multi-culturalist movement (based as it is in a post-Modernist construction that refuses to cleave to the idea of an objective truth or morality) that says we have to respect the views of people like these radical Islamists.

This is a trend that is apparent all over Europe, as Centre-Left parties are voted out of office (Spain, Italy, Hollan, Denmark, France, maybe Germany in a few weeks). The biggest danger arises if the satraps of the Holy Belgian Empire choose to put their heads in the sand. It is then that the risk of a bloody backlash becomes all too real. I have said it many times: the onus is not on the host society to accommodate views so wildly at variance with its historical norms and precepts - it is the responsibility of the immigrant population to mould itself into a fully acculturated group. Those in the European Muslim population who do not support the radicals must say so now, and vociferously. If a backlash occurs, it will be too late to say, "but we never supported these people in the first place." They are in mortal danger. In a clash of civilisations, the West will prevail.

As a parallel, and at the risk of inviting criticism - imagine if in 1936, there had been a small minority of Jews advocating the violent overthrow of German society, while the remainder stayed silent (I'm not comparing Germany in 1936 with Europe today). The Holocaust would have still happened, and it would be just as evil, but there would always be the siren voices saying, "ah yes, terrible - but they brought it on themselves you know." This is the fate that perhaps awaits Europe's Muslims if the radicals are not spurned. In the presence of the democratic disconnect between people and the European Commission, explicit condemnation and a pledge to assimilate is vital. But a nasty little voice in my head asks me to what extent the radicals attract support from within the so-called moderate community.

#52-

If someone declares himself our enemy, we should take him seriously.

agree, but there's value in knowing your enemy, too. if they want to celebrate, let 'em, and let 'em be photographed: all it does is clarify, for Americans, the type of people Israel is being asked to "negotiate" with.

#59-

There is a better way, more humane than crushing military action, and more historically just. Transfer.

tempted to agree, but who would take them?

I would like to see a picture of Palestinians engaged in the time-honored ritual of group camel-fucking. Thank you.

"agree, but there's value in knowing your enemy, too. if they want to celebrate, let 'em, and let 'em be photographed:"

So they can be hunted down and executed, I trust?

No ";-)."

I'm totally serious.

NC, #62, some more links for your site:

[Link: www.frontpagemag.com...]

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William,

Those pictures need a warning notice.

They are gruesome.

Photios, #2 wrote "I don't care that the people who celebrated were largely uneducated and illiterate. It doesn't matter how oppressed they may feel. You don't have to be a PhD living in a Bainbridge Island waterfront home to know that the murder of 3000+ people in a country that you are not fighting against is probably not something to celebrate."

No, maybe you don't need to have a PhD, but you need some experience with being human, which may be difficult considering the oppressive leadership of most of the Middle East.

Freire wrote:

But almost always, during the initial stage of the struggle, the oppressed, instead of striving for liberation, tend themselves to become oppressors, or "sub-oppressors...Their ideal is to be men; but for them, to be men is to be oppressors. This is their model of humanity.

Clearly in being oppressed by their own leadership they have learned the art of oppression. Thus, their fight for liberation has become confused, oppressive and lacking the proper target.

David Gilles (#63):

Thank you for your post. (One thing I quibble with slightly is that there seems to be plenty of people who still say the Jews brought the Holocaust on themselves, not by being violent, but, apparently, by being too successful).

You raise a rather terrifying scenario: A huge popular backlash against the EU multi-culties and increasing friction between the unassimiliated Muslims and the "colonized" Europeans which results in a second Holocaust aimed at the Muslims.

It's easy to imagine this happening, just as it is, unfortunately, easy to imagine Holland's Muslim population becoming the in 20-30 years and instituting Sharia law in that land of legal hash.

However, it seems to me that all of these arguments focus on demographics alone and miss the most important factor. What will happen in Europe in 20-30 years depends on what we do now to defeat Islamofascism

If we take down Iraq, and Iran revolts against the mullahs with a lttle help from us, we'll have access to their oil, which means we'll be able to give the Sauds the finger. If we give Israel the green light, they'll clean out the putrid nests of terrorism in Lebanon and Syria. It won't take overnight and it won't be easy, but a decisive defeat of the Islamonazis will dry up funding and support for wackjob terrorist cells in Europe. Remember, there's support for terror now because it looks like terror pays off. We need to send that idea to the ashheap of history.

On the other hand, if we do what the Chris Patten's of the world want us to do - appease, ignore, and actively fund terrorism under the rubric of "humanitarian aid," the future of Europe will not be bright. The Muslims will not only outnumber the Euros, but they'll still be convinced that the decadent infidels must die. The whole Continent will become the Balkans writ large.

Sorry, this line in post #70 should read:

"It's easy to imagine this happening, just as it is, unfortunately, easy to imagine Holland's Muslim population becoming the majority in 20-30 years and instituting Sharia law in that land of legal hash."

And remove that ' from "the Chris Pattens of the world" in the last paragraph. I get sloppy with my punctuation when I'm typing fast and I don't always pick up on it until after I've posted. (Hell, I don't always seeit. Must get eyes checked,...,)

So they can be hunted down and executed, I trust?

Yes.

Well, to clarify, I'm not advocating executing people for having a block party but suggesting that we won't have to. If you look carefully through the attendees of last week's Aryan Nation rally, then sooner or later you're bound to find somebody culpable for yesterday's firebombing of the synagogue - and that applies analogously to the death-worshippers cheering 9/11. Give them enough rope...

There is no shortage of sickening pictures featuring this scum rejoicing in their bloodlust, really. My graphic pictures database, at least, keeps growing constantly. Here is the last acquisition: http://www.simokyfed.com/mt/haganah/post_media/say ed_awad10.jpg

I hope this 9/11 Israel is a well armed with cameras as it is with weapons. The footage of what I predict and almost guarantee will be gleeful celbrations, the like of which Gaza has not seen since the Hebrew U attack. Israel should lift the curfew in the West Bank and let the fools out to dance.

Get thos cam-corders ready, there is going to be a Pal Ho-Down on 9/11 and we wouldn't want the world to miss their party.

I've read the posts both pro and con for removing the terrorists from the face of the earth. I must say that the only good terrorist is a dead terrorist. The paleostine people are terrorists in training. A scorched earth policy by both us and Israel when dealing with these people is the only sensible course of action. Islamo-fascists understand only power. That power can come from the end of a rifle or from having money in the bank. Teach them that when they fight us a lot more of them will die than us. Simple lesson to a backward people.

When will the War on Terrorism be declared over?

When these animals scurry into their shit-holes if America is ever attacked again. These celebrations are a prime example of the amount of work that is cut out for us.

Once these desert rats learn to fear the United States - and I mean gut-clenching, bowel-loosening fear - then the war will end.

This can be expedited by dropping some ordinance on these [bigoted word]s if they decide 9/11/02 is a day for celebration.

You must look at the context!!!

What was the context, you ask? 3000 dead Americans.

It'll be over when islam goes the way of the norse, or even the roman religions.. Islam can never co-exist with other faiths and people.

lip, good post; I hope you're right.

The ancient Greeks believed the earth was round, and were able to calculate it's circumference with remarkable accuracy.

Then Christianity came, and it wasn't for many centuries until people knew that the earth was round.

Religious fundamentalism is THE enemy, and I continue to think that in this battle the pen is as important as the sword (the pen may need to be backed up by the sword, however. . . ).

The first line of my post referred to the first line of lip's post.

GET SECRET CAMERAS READY TO RECORD 1 YEAR ANNIVERSARY. The American public needs to know how the Islamic/Arabic world deals with the anniversary. We need a bunch of strategically located CANDID CAMERAS in the Mosques and bizarres thorught the Middle East. WB and Gaza, Syria, Egypt, and especially SAUDI ARABIA. If more of these celebrations are going on (even discreetly), they should be broadcast around the world. We need to know who are friends are and who our real foes are. Or should I say "reminded" since we basically already know.

Arafat is nothing if not canny. He knew that what little footage had been shot had dammed his whole movement, probably for good. I know I will never support the Palestinians again, after seeing those scenes. Arab leaders will be extra keen to supress that kind of thing. Or rather, the documenting of such celebrations, not the celebrations themselves if they stay true to form.

You can also find higher res and larger pictures on a website I created at [Link: www.geocities.com...]

I remember seeing some footage on TV.
Then I remember sometime later a bunch of stories claiming it was old footage from some other time, and the Pals weren't celebrating what happened on the 11th.
Then, all talk of any of it vanished.

Thanks for proving I didn't imagine it, and that it really happened.

Fonely the rest of the world could see.

arab mongrel savages

Growler, #83 writes:

I remember seeing some footage on TV. Then I remember sometime later a bunch of stories claiming it was old footage from some other time, and the Pals weren't celebrating what happened on the 11th. Then, all talk of any of it vanished.

You are correct in remembering the footage. The claims that is was 'old footage', are more lies from the terrorist apologists we often see on TV.

Below is evidence that A) this was not old footage, and B) why it has not been shown since (summary point in bold):

AP Protests Threats to Cameraman
The Associated Press
Wednesday, Sept. 12, 2001; 6:02 p.m. EDT

JERUSALEM -- The Associated Press on Wednesday protested to the Palestinian Authority about threats against a freelance cameraman who filmed Palestinians celebrating terror attacks in the United States.

The videographer, on assignment for Associated Press Television News, was summoned to a Palestinian Authority security office and told that the material must not be aired. Calls in the name of the Tanzim militia, an armed group associated with Yasser Arafat's Fatah group, warned him he would be held responsible and made what he interpreted as threats on his life.

Several Palestinian Authority officials spoke to AP in Jerusalem urging that the material not be broadcast. Ahmed Abdel Rahman, Arafat's Cabinet secretary, said the Palestinian Authority "cannot guarantee the life" of the cameraman if the footage was broadcast.

The cameraman then requested that the material not be aired. In light of the danger, Associated Press Television News has not released the footage of the rally in Nablus.

AP news stories reported worldwide on the demonstration in Nablus and AP distributed still pictures and video of similar rallies in east Jerusalem, Lebanon and elsewhere. An AP still photographer did not take pictures of the Nablus rally after being warned at the scene not to do so.

The protest by AP Chief of Bureau Dan Perry said, "I ask the assurances of the Palestinian Authority that you will protect our journalists from threats and attempts at intimidation and that no harm would come to our freelance cameraman from distribution of the film."

The untruth about the "Palestinians dancing was actually Gulf War footage of Palestinians celebrating the firing of missiles at Israel" [not that that's much of an improvement] is on snopes.com:

[Link: www.snopes.com...]

"But CNN's reputation was besmirched by a single person, a Brazilian student who reported (without verification) that the footage in question actually came from a 1991 report on "Palestinians celebrating the invasion of Kuwait," a copy of which was in the possession of one of his teachers."

I was very pleased to see the Pals reaction to the 9/11 tragedy. It gave most Americans the clear view of the Palistinian people that I had developed the year before by following the new intifada closely. It was extremely satifying to see the truth broadcast like that and the death threats were just a bonus.
That episode showed clearly to all Americans the true face of the Palistinians. Not very pretty, is it?

I enjoy that one of the Pals is wearing what appears to be a Chicago Bears jersey. Our culture is winning.

Academics and pundits have exerted much energy and written many words trying to answer the question, "Why do they hate us?" Maybe they ought to try to answer the question "Why do we hate them?" Here's a start.

Well how would you feel being ugly people in an ugly homeland with ugly language, ugly music and an ugly culture impotent to offer anything other than sneaky, highly distructive mischief?

Yes, Palistine, get indignant. Be martyrs and victims, if you like, but know that your true enemies are yourselves.

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