Charles,

Introspection is a unique characteristic reserved only for behaviour in human beings it is not found in other beings in the animal kingdom.

then there is David Ben Gurion Place near Grand Central Station. To Arab eyes it's akin to seeing "Slobodan Milosevic Boulevard".

Exactly how we New Yorkers felt about the PLO mission!

I dont believe the Statue of Liberty has scales of justice

There is the grand symbolism of the Statue of Liberty, with her scales of justice.

Maybe in the Islamofascist world a torch is the symbol of justice - you can judge only that which you can destroy.

The Arabs, government, press and citizens have no right to critisize the US government, policy or institutions for the governments are not representative of the people and the medias are representatives of the government.

You must earn the right ot critisize a democracy.

I heard this on Laura Ingraham's show last night by Thomas Freidman.

The previous posters beat me to it - it seems this fellow has confused the Statue of Liberty with the Lady of Justice.

W.

As I read the article a second time, I was struck by what’s not in it—there is not one word of sympathy for the US, not one word of regret that Arabs had perpetrated this act of monstrous evil, not one word of introspection.

Ah the joys of zealotry!

These are the same people (radical Muslims as well as their many apologists) that deny any Arab involvement in 9/11, while at the same time saying it's a massive Jewish conspiracy to frame the Arab world. Then their people dance in the streets.

I guess in the mind of your average fanatic Muslim, hatred, lies and genocide are all well and good, just so long as you do it in the name of Allah.

My hope is that one of the more eloquent posters here will write a rebuttal to be published in the Financial Times Letter to the Editor or as an op-ed piece. It would be fun to poke holes in the sophistry, lying, hateful trash being disseminated by these apologists for terror. Please, someone take up the torch and don't let this $%&(&%$&^*^& go unchallenged.

As I read the article a second time, I was struck by what’s not in it—there is not one word of sympathy for the US, not one word of regret that Arabs had perpetrated this act of monstrous evil, not one word of introspection.

They are the master race. Why do they need to empathize with us mere dhimmi?

This self-proclaimed "Egyptian Muslim" is happy to complain about naming a street in the US after Ben Gurion, yet surprisingly nothing is mentioned about Mubarak renaming the street outside the Israeli embassy in Cairo 'Muhammed al-Dura Street'.

For those of you with limited memory, al-Dura was the palestinian boy who was shot by palestinian snipers. In their usual fashion, the palestinians blamed the IDF and the world media joined in the chorus vilifying Israel for weeks on end. Although Israel was finally exculpated, this fact was kept silent by most of the critical media outlets.

The Muhammed al-Dura affair represented a major low in liberal coverage that was exceeded only by their coverage of the Jenin non-massacres. To name the street outside the Israeli embassy after this boy represents a chutzpah that only Mubarak could muster.

Introspection? After reading arabnews.com for the last six months or so, I've come to the conclusion that introspection is something these people don't do to well at.

While we've developed the habit of agonizing and hand-wringing over every possible thing we might have done wrong or are doing wrong, Arabs immediately jump to the conclusion there's a Zionist plot afoot, and consider the issue thereby closed.

Evidence That Arabs Shot 12-Year-Old Muhammad:
[Link: www.israelnationalnews.com...]

The truth about Mohamad Aldura:
[Link: www.eretzyisroel.org...]

Dave D.--Not so fast. The Arab News has promised a special section in tomorrow's edition (which should go online tonight at around 7 p.m.) to serve as "a memorial to the tragedy of September 11." I expect it'll be chock full of introspection. E.g., "why did Osama kill so many innocent Americans when he could have been killing Jews?" Or, "why did Osama attack office buildings when he could have struck nuclear reactors? Why, Allah? Why?" These are questions with which all Arab extremists must wrestle.

To Arab eyes it's akin to seeing "Slobodan Milosevic Boulevard".

Fill in the Blanks for me here:

M__________'s government had a program for killing large numbers of M__________ and the U______ S_____ A__ F____ bombed the s____ out of him until he surrendered and stood trial.

And we're still the bad guys here?!?!?!?

I had been expecting a more historical analysis: Britain's 1917 Balfour Declaration; 1930s German and British government collaboration with the Zionist movement; the colonisation by Europeans; the ethnic cleansing of civilians by terrorist bands such as Irgun, Unit 101, from whence Israeli leaders such as Begin and Ariel Sharon emerged; President Truman's unilateral recognition of Ben Gurion's 1948 declaration of statehood; the fact there are still Jewish Palestinians who have not taken Israeli citizenship.

The Nazis collaborated with the Zionists in the 1930s? Arab history I suppose.

It is a well known fact of the Nazi-Zionist collaberation.

This little fact is forgotten when one speaks of Jewish power.

So thirsty were they for power, they colluded with the Nazis to get as many Jews to Palestine.

I wrote this to FT. I am no wordsmith, but the fact that they published this tripe on the eve of 9/11 infuriated me.
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It comes as no surprise that Mr. el-Gabry blames Israel for the actions of his brothers in faith on 9/11. It comes as no surprise that there is no introspection in his piece, as the Arab ethos is to lay blame anywhere but on oneself. It also comes as no surprise that he equates Ben Gurion with the genocidal Milosevic. Although it is a bit ironic, in that there are a significant number of Arabs attempting just that towards the Jews.

It does surprise me that he can identify someone's nationality (the woman on the bus) by just looking and listening to them. Is there no possibility that this woman was born somewhere else and grew up in Israel? Is there no possibility she became a U.S. citizen? Maybe he just meant to say "Jewish".

What also surprises me is Mr. el-Gabry's shoddy research. Israel is not a theocratic state, as he asserts, unlike the majority of Muslim states.

And most ironic of all - the Statue of Liberty doesn't carry the scales of justice. Maybe he missed that as he was looking over his shoulder.

It is a well known fact of the Nazi-Zionist collaberation.

This little fact is forgotten

Is it well known or not?

BuNKy means it's "well known among antisemitic circles". That's why he knows it.

Every Arab out there jockeying for position guaranteed that they would not be listened to by me on the morning of Tuesday, September 11, 2001.

Montreal riot, Excerpt from National Post
[Link: www.nationalpost.com...]

"Look what the police have done," a thin, friendly Concordia student named Ahmed told me, gesturing dramatically at a pane of smashed glass.

"But the protesters smashed the window," I said.

"Yes," he responded, "Out of frustration. Look at the way they're being treated!"

As we spoke, a group of Jewish students raised an Israeli flag. Almost immediately, a group of men chanting slogans in Arabic took it from them.

"Is that an act of frustration too?" I asked Ahmed, half seriously.

"They have no business taunting us," he said with great solemnity. "It's a provocation."

That this was published in mainstreet paper is very, very disturbing. I think we LGF readers have gotten so used to the Arab News tripe that we tend to forget our outrage. The FT is little known here, but it's the Wall Street Journal of Europe.

I'm working on a letter right now. According to Hoovers, the head of the FT in the US is Lionel Barber and in the UK, Andrew Gowers . Of course, Hoovers also says that Gowers is the "co-author of a biography of Yassir Arafat," so who knows how far we'll get. I'm assuming that Walid el-Gabry works at the FT as well, since there's no identifier beneath the article. If he's an employee, his email should be Walid.elgabry@ft.com .

Let's get mobilized.

Joy

The story is unavailable.

its not surprising they hate Jews and everyone...they exist in a parallel paranoid universe..

[Link: nadwa.virtualave.net...]

Re:21

They pulled the story!

Thank Allah they did so before someone became offended by that Jewish hate crime

Michael

Here is the national post link again
[Link: www.nationalpost.com...]

Actually,

I just read the story. Maybe they changed the URL.

[Link: www.nationalpost.com...]

re #23
the story is still on NP's site. What happens when you attempt to paste the url here is that the final bracket gets separated http... }here

I am sorry. LGF does not quote the link properly.

If you go to [Link: www.nationalpost.com...]
go to the commentary link on the left panel,
and the article title is "Natanyahu is the victim"

Well, gag me with a mother board...

I don't know no HTML, I'm only a Jew.

A good take on the FT story:

undismayed.blogspot.com
Scroll down to "Some of his friends are Jewish, really."

Michael, #25 I was able to get to the article from this link. I went through the "commentary" section.

Very strong indeed. Good on ya National Post and Jonathan Kay (the author).

In case there are link problems here is the article in its entirety:

Jonathan Kay
National Post

Tuesday, September 10, 2002

MONTREAL - For anyone worried about the "right to dissent" in the post-Sept. 11 era, I offer, in rebuttal, Concordia University. The school is already well known to Canadians thanks to its student union, which last year published a handbook demonizing Israel and glorifying Palestinian violence. Yesterday, Concordia won new notoriety: An Arabist rabble shut down a scheduled speech by Benjamin Netanyahu, the former Israeli prime minister. The protests were so violent the police had to spray tear gas, causing the university's main building to be evacuated.

Not that the cops seemed to care much about whether the speech went on or not. Bizarrely, the row of helmeted policemen stood to one side and let the protesters control access to the Hall building, where the speech was supposed to take place. At one point, Laith Marouf, a Syrian who was expelled from Concordia last year after defacing a school building with pro-Palestinian graffiti, climbed on top of a police van and used it as his pulpit. I pointed out the irony to a nearby cop, but he just shrugged.

With no speech to cover, I drifted among the protesters. Most of them had no idea they'd prevailed, and delivered statements to me in the vein of "as we speak, a blood-soaked war criminal is inside that building spewing his racist propaganda." When I told them of the cancellation, they were ecstatic.

At his press conference, Mr. Netanyahu put a brave face on all of this. He said the protesters had undermined their own cause because they'd showcased the intolerance, hatred and censorship that are the calling cards of Yasser and Saddam. Some reporters in the room rolled their eyes -- particularly the francophones, many of whom imagine the Palestinians to be kindred political spirits.

But there was a lot of truth in Mr. Netanyahu's words. Concordia University is the centre of militant Arabism in Canada, and it has recently seen a steady stream of extremists parade through its halls. (Solidarity for Palestinian Human Rights, a prominent university group that organizes demonstrations, has circulated articles by Holocaust deniers alleging Israel is developing an "ethnic bomb" that will kill Arabs but not Jews.) But you never see Jews or anyone else coming to block SPHR from saying its piece. It is only among the school's Arabs -- many of whom, like Marouf, are immigrants from Arab nations where free speech is non-existent and anti-Semitic filth is widespread -- that it is considered acceptable to shut your opponent up by force.

Yesterday's fracas at Concordia was not the Middle East in miniature. I didn't see anyone strapped with mock explosives, and the protesters were careful to avoid burning an Israeli flag (as some protesters did in Toronto earlier this year). But there was still a climate of intimidation. When I tried to approach the Hall building, I was blocked by a crowd of protesters who declared they were creating "a Palestinian checkpoint." Many of the folks in yarmulkes -- including a pair of middle-aged men -- were shoved, kicked, smeared with ketchup meant to symbolize Palestinian blood, and otherwise harassed until they fled.

To the protesters -- well-steeped in the specious propaganda of the Arab world -- all of this was "legitimate resistance."

"Look what the police have done," a thin, friendly Concordia student named Ahmed told me, gesturing dramatically at a pane of smashed glass.

"But the protesters smashed the window," I said.

"Yes," he responded, "Out of frustration. Look at the way they're being treated!"

As we spoke, a group of Jewish students raised an Israeli flag. Almost immediately, a group of men chanting slogans in Arabic took it from them.

"Is that an act of frustration too?" I asked Ahmed, half seriously.

"They have no business taunting us," he said with great solemnity. "It's a provocation."

In some ways, this sort of statement is more dismaying than the violence it excuses. It tells me that the logic of Palestinian victimization is crossing the ocean and taking up residence locally. Which, perhaps, is not surprising: If you can argue that blowing up school buses is a predictable response to the "humiliations" imposed on Palestinians, as many of the talking heads featured on the CBC and in The Toronto Star tell us, why shouldn't censorship in support of the victims be OK too? Shouldn't the blame lie with Mr. Netanyahu, for daring to express his free speech rights and thereby "provoking" those poor Palestinian sympathizers? Sure enough, a reporter at yesterday's press conference raised that very theory. "There are people who feel that holding your event at a place like Concordia University with a history of difficulties ... was like waving a red flag in front of these people," she said. "Perhaps that caused the problem." To my delight, Mr. Netanyahu had no patience for this. The cause of riots, he said, is rioters. The cause of thuggery is thugs. "And if it's true that there is a history of problems at a place like Concordia," he added, "then clean it up." It was the best line of the press conference. I only hope someone from Concordia was there to hear it.

Such griping. Here is my gripe.

This guy should go back to Egypt where he can be with like-minded bretheren. It still amazes me how muslims in America show little solidarity with our country. If you come to the US, get a job, raise your family here, and enjoy the freedom and economic prosperity unique to this country, you should show some respect. America was built by immigrants who put the interests of this country over their own ethnic proclivities. That's the historical American Contract: we will give you freedom and opportunity, and you give us your loyalty and respect, perhaps your life to defend it (even if attacked by your native country).

If you can not accept that scrutiny of the muslim community here is regrettable but necessary, then LEAVE (faster, please)! We know that the enemy is here, we've caught a few already. Why doesn't the muslim-american community purge the Hamas/Al Qaeda/ Jihadi insurgents from their community and tell them "not in my country"?!?

BTW, I don't condemn every muslim-american. I know (some personally) that believe exactly what I wrote. However, the muslim-american *community* and its leaders are not living up to their part of the American Contract.

As somebody once said, you are either with us or you are against us.

Walid el-Gabry, writing for the UK’s Financial Times, explains why the US is hated by the Arab world. Surprise! It’s because they hate Israel.....

These Arab pests love to live in the UK and the USA. But want Israel and Jews out of the Mid East. The only way these assholes can handle Jews is as DHIMMI living under their thumb. Been there and done that. No Jews living in their stinking Arab nations anymore. The stinking *umah* can have them all to themselves.

this is the correct link:

[Link: www.nationalpost.com...]

Without the "{"

The world is in a terrible situation with little end in sight because Arab society is so severely mentally distrubed. Since they are completely unable to face their own backwardness, they are equally unable to make any progress. The result is disastrous for the rest of us because they project out their unrecognized and therefor unacknowledged rage against themselves onto the West. Israel being a Western country in their midst gets the brunt of it. The only positive note in this psychotic landscape is, ironically, Iran (oaky, not Arab) where some of the youth is beginning to see reality. Reality has escaped the Arab world completel.

Everybody knows the arabs want to kill all non muslims and or convert them to islam all over the world.

Some just appreciate that view and some don't, which are you?

This is not a war of cultures, as if each has its views, this is the war for Earth, will free poeple live here or will we be slaves to others?

The fight goes on.

Never give up, never surrender!

Ah... i see the zionist usurper jew conspiracy has replaced the liberty torch with scales of justice...

The lies, the rhetoric... they have certainly found an ear within the western media for themselves...

What type of person would support arab terrorsim and the modern islam?

Would a tolerant person support the two above?

Who would fight against modern islam and the arab terrorist?

Would a moral person stand up against the great wave that tries to crash down on us all or would they accept it?

This battle of good and evil is very simple dont complicate it.

The arabs and their supporters want to rule the wordl their way those who oppose them want freedom for all ways.

This is where the conservatives are the neo-liberals and the liberals are the facists inline the evils of the world.

QUESTION:
Why would a liberal support dictators and suppresion of free speech?

ANSWER:
So they won't be ignored.

Do Not Go Gentle Into That Good Night.
"Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay, Rage, rage against the dying of the light." - [Dylan Thomas]

Unfortunately, instead of these thugs getting civilized by civilized countries, they work at uncivilizing their host societies. I guess they're homesick and want to set things up so they're just like home.

Montreal campus split by Israeli-Palestinian passions

[Link: www.nationalpost.com...]

Maybe this will work.

[Link: www.nationalpost.com...]

Netanyahu pleased with show of 'zealotry'

[Link: www.nationalpost.com...]

The protesters, many of them local activists who do not attend the university

Go Figure.

What is distressing here is that FT is airing here lunatic factoids under the guise of someone's repsectable opinion, if not researched fact.

Even here I'll bet few realize that the subject of the 'Koenig memorandum' was something completely different, or the lunacy in alleging cooperation between Nazism and Zionism (maybe he means the pitiful attempt to buy the lives of several thousand Hungarian Jews ?)

All we know is that the Statue of Liberty has no scales.

Imagine FT featuring an article opining that the CIA killed JFK, the Mossad blew up the Twin Towers, and Elvis lives.

"East is east, and west is west."

Rudyard Kipling (I think).

Actually, there was some Nazi-Zionist collaboration.

Before he was in charge of shipping Jews to death camps, Adolf Eichman was in charge of expediting Jewish emigration from Germany. Problem was, no one was willing to accept large numbers of Jews. So Eichman ended up collaborating with some Zionists to sneak Jews into Palestine.

But aside from being an interesting bit of historical trivia, it has nothing to do with the alleged subject of the FT piece.

Those National Post stories and the oft published Mark Steyn columns give me heart.

What is the circulation of the National Post? What would it compare to in the U.S.?

Its pages regarding this incident sing like I would expect the WSJ and the Washington Times in the US.

Excellent articles -- thanks, Zulubaby!

I liked this in particular:

David Battistuzzi, a Palestinian activist, said Mr. Netanyahu had no right to speak at Concordia.

"There's no free speech for hate speech," Mr. Battistuzzi, 24, a former Concordia student, said.

Hmm... where have we heard that sentiment before?

Also, this is somewhat heartening, from the Concordia rector:

"Rational discourse is the very stuff of the university -- even heated argument -- provided there's no incitement or violence," Mr. Lowy said. "For us, this was a shameful event today."

That's putting it mildly, of course. Let's see if Concordia does a better job of this than SFSU. I'm not holding my breath -- anyone want to bet that there will be at least one token arrest of a Jew?

Anyone know if this made it to CBC?

Hey BNK #16, that was an attempt to ransom Jewish victims from Nazi murderers. Since no one else in the world would do it, the Jews tried to do it themselves.

This was while the Arabs in Palestine were getting arms from the Nazis and preparing to join with them in war, so hungry for power, and the opportunity to murder Jews, were the Arabs.

Crawl back in your bunker and go fandle the family Lugar.

I like to read the BBC news site every day because I have found it esy to navigate and get international news. Today I read something that quite literally turned my stomach.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

The BBC has a series of interviews of the where were you when variety. This one is from a woman who lives in Baghdad. Her statements have further steeled my resolve that we must act against Iraq.

Here is a choice quote "I think this is God's revenge for what America does to people, to Iraq especially. I think it is a message to America to beware of the Arabs. They are strong and they are a danger. They are home, they are here, anywhere. Even in your buildings, even in your air."

What kind of sick person comes up with this?

Everybody,

Good postings, but how about some ACTION?
Let's send a response to the editor of the FT "en masse" so that we could voice our displeasure with jihadnick Walid el-Gabry's anti-Israeli/Jewish article and unfounded / misguided comparisons...

How could a paper of FT's caliber publish such rubbish? The co-operation of Nazi Germany with Zionists? GET REAL! This bozo is living in la-la land - he probably believes in that Egyptian gov. crappy web site & monument that claims they "won" the war of '73.

Notice that he follows the same pattern as most anti-semites (Jewish friends at parties, etc.)... I guess after this article, he will have a lot fewer Jewish friends... there are 3 categories of friends: best friends, guest friends and pest friends (guess which one he belongs to?). Sorry, Ahmed - no pity for you.

I plan to write a letter to FT tonight. I encourage everyone else to do the same.

Quick guidelines: keep it factual, keep it short, keep it polite. Attack El-Gabry's statements, not the man. Don't attack the newspaper or sling accusations.

J Litchy

The National Post is one of only two "National" papers in Canada. It was originally owned by Conrad Black and has, from day one, been politically right wing and pro US and Israel. Unfortunately Black sold out and moved to the UK (Nathanincanada, I think) explained the reason the other day in a different post. It had to do with PM "Cretin" not allowing him to take up a British peerage.

Anyway the paper in now owned by Izzy Asper (yes, he is Jewish and part of the vast media conspiracy, yada yada yada). Asper is a good friend of the PM and the misnamed "Liberal" party. However, the Post seems to be retaining its pro US and Israel stand. In addition to the brilliant Steyn, the Post also publishes Pipes, Krauthammer and other friends of Israel.

See [Link: www.colbycosh.com...] here for info on Steyn's relationship with the Post.

It might be worth asking the FT why they print propaganda when plausable positions regarding the issue based on actual research are available.

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I am literally shaking after reading this FT article. The Europe that murdered 6 million Jews now sits smugly and lets Arabs do the vocal Jew hating for it. All it has to do is provide a platform. FT this will not be forgotten; contrary to the wishes so eloquently expressed by your endorsment of subtle and pervasive lies, Jewish lives will never be destroyed so cheaply again.

Someone provided this link to a William E. Grim article regarding the resurgence of Jew hatred in Europe in a comment to another LGF post. Here it is again, read it if you haven't yet: [Link: www.thejewishpress.com...]

amir wrote:

Even here I'll bet few realize that the subject of the 'Koenig memorandum' was something completely different...

Do you have a link to information about the Koenig memorandum?

Hmm.. I think the author is talking about the "transfer agreement" (ha'avra):

[Link: www.brooklinebooks.com...]
[Link: www.jpost.com...]
[Link: www.us-israel.org...]
[Link: search.barnesandnoble.com...]
[Link: www.featuregroup.com...]

Charles, have a look at Nelson Mandela's interview on msnbc:

[Link: www.msnbc.com...]

"But what we know is that Israel has weapons of mass destruction. Nobody talks about that. Why should there be one standard for one country, especially because it is black, and another one for another country, Israel, that is white. "

Something tells me that "Koenig memorandum" is no more real than the Protocols or the hateful filth falsely attributed to Jefferson and Franklin. It's only mentioned on the nazi/arabist/jihadist sites and those tapeworms are kicking around the same set of "quotes" - obviously from a single putrid source.

Charles wrote:

"Do you have a link to information about the Koenig memorandum?"

No. Koenig was in charge of the Northern district for the Israeli Ministry of the Interior. In the 80's he wrote an internal memo about the danger of losing the Jewish majority in the Galilee (which I believe has by now already happened).

It was leaked and caused much anger among Israeli Arabs.

From the National Post article:

(Solidarity for Palestinian Human Rights, a prominent university group that organizes demonstrations, has circulated articles by Holocaust deniers alleging Israel is developing an "ethnic bomb" that will kill Arabs but not Jews.)

More asinine superstition and yet, curiously enough, another anti-Semitic libel that also is a weird sort of compliment. Jews are, according to the Jew-haters, so powerful and brilliant that they control U.S. media and business (and 274 million dumb goyim). Now they're developing a "super-duper smart bomb" that will be able to tell who's been naughty and who's been nice. What will those goshdarn Jews come up with next? Invisibility suits for West Bank settlers? Or maybe a magic potion which will enable IDF soldiers to fly over the West Bank like rabbis in a Marc Chagall painting, safely out of artillery range while they fire death rayguns at poor Palestinian freedom fighters.

E. Nough (#49)

Yes, it got a lot of play on the CBC (at least on the radio--I didn't watch CBC TV). And "As It Happens" this evening had more coverage and feedback, including an interview with the head of the University (sorry, don't remember his name or proper title off-hand).

I think europe is america's punishment from the russians for not believing them when they said europe needed to be torched in 1949! They warned us that europeans would "create and follow lunatic political movements" every 5 minutes and told us we'd be better keeping them poor, but did we listen?
Nah. Now we suffer. All I have to say is...

Russia, please come back to US. We'll give you europe on a silver platter if you burn it to the ground.

We'll give you a marshal plan and make every russian rich.

We're sorry we didn't believe russians when they said euros were blooksuckers.!

We're sorry, please come back! We miss the cold war and people who watched their nukes or at least their psycho protestors!

We miss the lavish one on on summits where there were no french people.

Please, please Russia...forgive us. We were weak! Come on, how were we supposed to know?! Forgive, russia--forgive!

I think europe is america's punishment from the russians for not believing them when they said europe needed to be torched in 1949! They warned us that europeans would "create and follow lunatic political movements" every 5 minutes and told us we'd be better keeping them poor, but did we listen?
Nah. Now we suffer. All I have to say is...

Russia, please come back to US. We'll give you europe on a silver platter if you burn it to the ground.

We'll give you a marshal plan and make every russian rich.

We're sorry we didn't believe russians when they said euros were blooksuckers.!

We're sorry, please come back! We miss the cold war and people who watched their nukes or at least their psycho protestors!

We miss the lavish one on on summits where there were no french people.

Please, please Russia...forgive us. We were weak! Come on, how were we supposed to know?! Forgive, russia--forgive!

actually, America is Europe's punishment. They have have collectively turned their backs on western civilization and led by powerful institutionalized leftist politics are busy deconstructing themselves as fast as they can.

The US is the reminder they once were the center of the world and held sway, now their churches are empty and children are too expensive for anyone other than welfare single mother families and assylum seekers.

Tony Blair is the only one who gets it nad has the guts to speak the truth.

Gee, BuNKy, I guess you think that the Zionists of the 1930s shouldn't have sullied their lily-WHITE (see Nelson Mandela's recent statements) hands by negotiating with the Nazis for the lives of the Jews of Europe. I guess it would have been more PC of them to have let ALL of the European Jews die rather than "collude" with the Nazi murderers to save a single one. (I also suppose you think that the families of kidnap victims who pay ransoms are guilty of "colluding" with kidnappers? Let's condemn them as well!!) And, while we're at it, let's give a rousing cheer for those "well-known" fighters against Nazism--I refer of course to the Arabs, most particularly the illustrious Jerusalem Mufti el-Husseini, whose exploits are detailed here: [Link: www.cdn-friends-icej.ca...]

The writer said:
I know of Coptic Christian Egyptians threatened with eviction in Brooklyn for no good reason.

Just a thought-- how many Coptic Christian Egyptians have been threatened with eviction in Cairo and Riyadh for no good reason?

How many Coptic Christians have had their lives threatened in Cairo?

If there was ever any doubt that there is a clash of civilizations - there should be none now.

The war between East and West that started in the late 600's and continued until the defeat of the Muslims in Spain in 1492, and the defeat of the Ottoman Turks outside of Vienna - has restarted.

The Expansion of Islam via the sword - and the need to focus the masses in the Middle East on a new common enemy (The Great Satan and it's ally - Israel) should not surprise students of history. With the return of appeasement in Europe, the elimination of any military shield in Europe by the actions of the EU, and the rise of natural anti-semitism - the opportunity was in place to mass against the last bastions of Freedom. This is the focus - the target - the last superpower and the one nation that hs tried to do what is right for the last 60 years.

It is time for all peoples' the deside what side they are on, and understand that appeasement is the same of surrender - you are only gambling that the crocodile will eat you last.

Ask yourself this - if there is a rattlesnake in your home, will you try to kill it right away, or wait until it strikes someone in your family before you decide it is a threat.

Early Arab migrants were largely Christian and Jewish Syrians, arriving in New York in the 19th century and assimilating into the prevailing European culture.

...President Truman's unilateral recognition of Ben Gurion's 1948 declaration of statehood; the fact there are still Jewish Palestinians who have not taken Israeli citizenship.

He wants FT readers to believe that there are Jews that are considered 'arab brethren'. Well, most of Israel's Jewish population came from arab countries -- so by that logic we can just be a Jewish-Arab state, and everyone can stop fighting. Tell me another fairytale!

On the issue of the Koenig Memorandum, I found one site that wasn't a pro-pali front mentioning it: [Link: www.unc.edu...]

In 1976 the Israeli press exposed the "Koenig Memorandum" (see Ian Lustick, Arabs in the Jewish State), in which two Israeli officials deplored Arab population increases in the Galilee area and recommended restriction of Arab economic opportunity as a strategy to promote Arab emigration.

Oh those screwy Jews, the Israeli press exposed it!

Charles, can you follow up this story if it develops a/n (non) apololgy from the FT?

This is absolutely dispicable.

I'm a bit bothered by this East vs. West business. I advocate that people should call it the West vs. the Islamic world. Here's my reasoning:

The West sits upon the two very different pillars of ancient Greece and the Bible, as many (e.g. Robert Alter) have said. Anyone who has done any reading of Greek philosophy is immediately struck by how very Eastern much of it is. So within Greek thought there is already present an East/West duality.

The Hebrew Bible influenced Western Culture directly, as well as through the New Testament, where Greek thought also shows up. Even within the late writings of the Hebrew Bible, we already see Greek influence, and we certainly see Greek philosophical influence at work in many of the Rabbis (see Mommydoc's posting in the thread on the plot to blow up an Israeli hospital for one example). So there is a plurality of thought within both pillars of Western Civilization. The West is the West because it combines this plurality of thought in a way that has been conducive to science and to a particular way, or ways, of doing philosophy; it is also the West because of a tendency to but North America and Europe on the West side of maps.

The East, which is to say the true East, the far East, represented by the religions/philosophies of Buddhism and Hinduism, looks on Islam as a Western Religion. Islam and Buddhism could be considered polar opposites, if we placed them on a continuum. So, since we cannot get rid of the label "West"--a helpful label, IMHO--we must keep it. But we must realize that when we speak of the Islamic world we are dealing with the polar opposite of this East, strange and yet familiar.

I don't think I've put this very well, so allow me to summarize by simply saying "Islamic world" is more precise.

There's one question I'd like someone to pose to the Islamicists:

For the sake of argument, let's suppose that the "Israeli question" is settled to their satisfaction. Let's even presume that Israeli is wiped off the map.

What then for Islam?

These weeners have predicated all their problems stem from the fact that Israel exists. They are so focused on the tactical (short term) that none of them are looking past it for a strategic, long-term vision.

I'll bet that even if the "Israeli question" were solved, they'd simply create another scapegoat to justify their continued failure to move ahead.

Just what IS the long-term vision for Islam, and for the region?

"As I read the article a second time, I was struck by what’s not in it—there is not one word of sympathy for the US, not one word of regret that Arabs had perpetrated this act of monstrous evil, not one word of introspection."

Charles,

Aren't you aware by now that being Palestinian (or Arab) means never having to say your sorry.

Why do they hate us? It's not about religion, it's about power. Their culture comes from a time when a short life expectancy necessitated a high birth rate. The supression of women and multiple wives produces large families without a lot of time and resources having to be expended on courting and keeping women. Our culture of freedom is spreading, and it threatens this system. They know once their women exprerience freedom, they won't tolorate being kept "barefoot and pregnant".
People have always used religion to achieve their ends. Hitler had "Gott mit ums" on every soldier's belt buckle, and the catholic males and protestant males in Northern Ireland aren't fighting over Scripture, but over which "tribe" is going to rule the roost.
It's not about religion, it's because will take their women away!

Re: post 75. My haste when I was in the thread referred to above when I mentioned Mommydoc, is responsible for me using mommydoc's submission here to make a point which she never intended, and which probably cannot be supported. I completely retract that part of my point, above, (though I still believe i my overall argument), and apologize for any confusion I may have caused.