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Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 5:05:37 pm PST

As they bury the dead in Nigeria, back in London various British celebrities and high-profile nitwits are falling over each other in the rush to blame the Islamic rioting on the Miss World beauty pageant itself, and urging surrender.

Oscar-winning actress turned parliamentarian Glenda Jackson led calls for the contest due to take place on Dec. 7 to be scrapped. "The best thing to do after such fratricide and blood-letting is to cancel the competition," she said.

Australian feminist Germaine Greer said the prospect of staging the contest in London was horrifying while writer Muriel Gray said: "These girls will be wearing swimwear dripping with blood."

But do not be mistaken, oh infidel! Islam is not opposed to all beauty contests.

The United Arab Emirates has held its first national beauty contest for camels with a prize fond of about $27,000 and various trophies for winners.

"The aim is to mark the respect and love the UAE have for the camel," member of the UAE's National Federal Council Faraj bin Hamouda told the Khaleej Times newspaper.

In a special statement, Mr bin Hamouda stressed that the camel was the best companion of his countrymen during the pre-oil era, and the competition in Abu Dhabi would help to pass that feeling of respect to the younger generation.

(Hat tip: the Viking.)

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1 Silla  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:10:40pm

Well why should women be displayed in the same manner as animals? (Not that I think Muslims are exemplary champions of women's rights....)

2 Diane L.  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:14:11pm

Oh goody, I get to be the first person to point out that "camel toes" is slang for breasts.

3 Meryl Yourish  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:15:33pm

Must--hold--back.... Must--not--make--camel jokes....

4 m12edit  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:16:46pm

Isn't it amazing how readily so many people will let them win...

BTW, I was just at Cursor.org..oh the humanity...

5 m12edit  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:17:29pm

oh, and BTW..re#4

one hump or two?

6 m12edit  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:18:09pm

uh, make that re#3

7 Erik  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:18:45pm
In a special statement, Mr bin Hamouda stressed that the camel was the best companion of his countrymen

oh boy. I feel a lot of crude jokes coming up...

8 Laurence Simon  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:19:59pm

In the UAE, they judge the humps.
In London, they'll hump the judges.

(rimshot)

9 Erik  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:20:06pm

I spoke too late.
:-(

10 Q  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:23:36pm

Re: #2

I had the impression that "camel toe" slang term meant the visible outline of female, er, pudendum under the tight-fitting clothing.

11 m12edit  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:24:08pm
Oh goody, I get to be the first person to point out that "camel toes" is slang for breasts.

Uhm, think a little lower...like between the legs...

12 Q  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:26:36pm
In a special statement, Mr bin Hamouda stressed that the camel was the best companion of his countrymen during the pre-oil era.

And will be again, Lucifer willing, in the post-oil era.

13 Q  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:28:30pm

Re: ##10, 11

Open the drool-gates! ;-)

14 Throbert McGee  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:28:34pm

Oh goody, I get to be the first person to point out that "camel toes" is slang for breasts.

Diane, I'm afraid that whomever defined the slang term camel toes for you was just trying to spare your delicate sensibilities.

The term does refer to cleavage, and more specifically to cleavage that is visible through form-fitting clothes, but it ain't the crack between two squeezed-together boobies that is being described...

15 Diane L.  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:29:13pm

#10 Q: Well, that's even better!!! The reason I thought it was breasts was that the expression was used in some really awful Pauly Shore movie where he's a soldier in the Gulf War, and the people who saw it with me said it referred to breasts. Maybe they were just being polite. I learn something new every day in the blogosphere.

16 Throbert McGee  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:30:04pm

Oh, shoot... beaten to the punch. I should've been more succinct and just said that "camel toes are a girl's basket."

17 Q  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:30:34pm

Such is the power of that image, that even Throbert got involved... ;-)

18 Diane L.  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:32:15pm

Camel toes are a girl's best friend.

19 NTropy  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:32:40pm
Glenda Jackson: "The best thing to do after such fratricide and blood-letting is to cancel the competition," she said.

Not find the perpetrators and bring them to justice (as if that was possible). Not call the Islamists on their violence oh noooooo.
Muriel Gray said: "These girls will be wearing swimwear dripping with blood."


Perhaps she would prefer buhrkas (sp?).

That's right, let them win. Can we have a contest for those who seek to be most like Neville Chamberlain? I suppose they also will buy out the toy store for a child throwing a temper tanntrum therein for not getting his way. If we're vocal enough and cause enough distrubance, can we assure that Glenda Jackson will never make another movie? !#$!@%%^& Idiots!!!!

20 zulubaby  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:35:18pm

I honestly thought this was a joke until I read the link :-)

21 Montaigne's Cat  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:35:30pm

Click on the second link -

The camel on the left, yes, that one, the white one -

Oo la la

Such nice teeth, such a sweet smile, she is soooo nice!

22 Throbert McGee  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:37:52pm

Well why should women be displayed in the same manner as animals?

Um, why use the passive tense here? What you want is an active verb with a reflexive pronoun:

Why should women display themselves in the same manner as animals display themselves?

Answer: To show off how healthy and gorgeous they look, to land a mate, to gain resources, to defend territory.

To me, the real question is: why aren't there beauty pageants for guys? (Although one could argue that People's Sexiest Man Alive does serve the same purpose as a pageant, in a more low-key way.)

23 zulubaby  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:39:10pm

Diane L. (#2)

Oh goody, I get to be the first person to point out that "camel toes" is slang for breasts.

What does that mean? Someone explain please.

24 Susan  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:39:22pm

They are playing the "Let's see who's the best at slagging off of evil Western culture" game of one-upmanship.

Probably didn't even occur to them to blame the killers themselves.

By now, such expressions are really second nature for the multi-cultis, hardly any thought required, the jerkiest of all knee-jerk responses.

25 zulubaby  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:41:40pm

Forget post #23. Got it :-)

26 David Foster  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:42:40pm

#18...Neville Chamberlain, with all his faults never sunk so low. After all, he eventually did declare war on Nazi Germany. It's hard to imagine anything that would ever make the people quoted step up to the bar.

27 m12edit  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 3:43:23pm
"The aim is to mark the respect and love the UAE have
for the camel," member of the UAE's National Federal Council Faraj bin Hamouda told the Khaleej Times newspaper.

This is just way too funny. I thought comedy had been outlawed under Shari'a. Guess I was wrong...

28 Minstrel  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 4:11:09pm

Oh, nur. What a bunch of . . . of . . . of . . . ah, heck.
Nur. :-)

29 Nastification Agenda  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 4:12:50pm

MOHAMMED AND WOMEN'S FATE

Narrated Imran: "The prophet said, 'I looked into paradise and saw that the majority of its people were poor, and I looked into hell and found that the majority of its people were women.'" (Bukhari 1:51:554)

HOWEVER

Narrated Abu Sa'id: "The prophet said, 'The first meal which the people of paradise will take, will be lobe (caudate) of fish liver.'" (Bukhari 1:51)

30 Donna V.  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 4:22:29pm
Narrated Abu Sa'id: "The prophet said, 'The first meal which the people of paradise will take, will be lobe (caudate) of fish liver.'" (Bukhari 1:51)

Fish liver! Sounds like paradise for Fluffy the cat.

Seriously, does it come as any surprise to us that the Arabs love and respect their camels more than they do their women?

31 Geepers  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 4:44:47pm

Her advice to women generally on protesting: "Words are weapons and beauty is not bad either - you have both, go for it." Germaine Greer September 2, 2002

Can you say hypocrite?

32 Charles  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 5:02:41pm

But that is one lovely camel in the BBC's stock photo, you have to admit.

And let us not forget that camels produce other substances favored by Islamists:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

33 Elizabeth  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 5:05:00pm

Now, there's something I can get behind...er, I mean support, a camel beauty contest!

Gosh, elephants and camels, oh my!

34 David A. aka Survivor of the attack on the Pentagon  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 5:07:29pm

I think I will wait a day or two before I trust myself with coments about the Arab camel beauty contest.

35 zulubaby  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 5:09:10pm

Charles,

You make me laugh everyday!

Camel piss!? Eewwwwwww, ugh, disgusting. I haven't eaten yet today. I was thinking about dinner. Oh well, I guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow then :-)

36 zulubaby  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 5:10:19pm

Hey Elizabeth!

Leave the elephants out of this ;-)

37 PDM  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 5:19:28pm

Burka wearing camels on the catwalk...alright!

38 thingie  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 5:30:57pm

Well, you know, you gotta admit, camels have a lot going for them...

Big brown eyes...

long curly eyelashes....

long, elegant legs...

gravity-defying humps....

Add on the inability to speak and chattel status, and I think you've just described the Ideal Female. At least if you're an Islamist Idiot.

39 Germain Greer (Shrew faced, bile spewing feminazi extraordinaire)  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 5:32:54pm

Slightly off topic but thought you might want a little nackground on Greer.

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

If 99.9% of the world's men were wiped out tomorrow, would the human race become extinct? It would not. The fact is, women can live without men, often do - but does that mean they want to, asks Germaine Greer ...

40 zulubaby  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 5:40:29pm

thingie (#38)

Absolutely hilarious!

Germain, you creep (#39)

The link would have been FINE thankyouverymuch.

41 Geepers  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 5:43:55pm

#39 Go easy on the cut and paste. Next time maybe just a couple of choice bits and a link? BTW you’re right, she’s a raving nut-job.

42 Seth The Zionist Occupational Governor  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 5:44:33pm

most certainly not safe for work or around children
camel toe

43 Q  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 5:44:34pm
Professor Steve Jones's new book Y: The Descent Of Men is much harder on men than I am. Imagine the fuss if I had said, "The chromosome unique to men is a microscopic metaphor of those who bear it, for it is the most decayed, redundant and parasitic of the lot."

That shit is not even new. Motherfucker is stealing it from that man-hating nutjob Valerie Solanas (the one who shot Warhol). And Lucifer only knows where she got it from.

Fact remains though, that sewage is as much grounded in real biology, as Islam is in the "message of peace". What a bunch of vicious imbeciles.

44 My apologies for the large greer paste above.  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 5:54:32pm

I'll paraphrase next time

Tomo

45 Donna V.  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 6:02:29pm
All over the world men leave home for work, whether as outworkers, fishermen, seasonal itinerant workers, miners, prospectors, lumbermen or shearers, and women manage without them.

And what scant respect Greer has for the outworkers, fishermen, seasonal itinerant workers, miners, prospectors, etc, all of whom do backbreaking work. My grandfather left what is now the Czech Republic and slaved for several years on the Lower East Side of New York, sending his money back home so my grandmother could join him in the New World. Yes, she managed by herself for a while on a farm and that is worthy of respect. He brought her to America. That's nothing? Not in my book.

46 OverWatch  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 6:26:39pm

Also when shes not hating men she appears on Newsnight Revie on friday nights to talk drivel about books films and theatre (i mean what does this say about wimmins issues..i mean you kno, it just not address wimmins issues at all etc etc ad infinitum) with the only man she can bear to be in a studio with - the delightful Tom Paulin - the poet of choice for the modern Eichmann

47 Joe  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 7:14:33pm

O when will we return to the days where instead of oil all they have is camel piss, and, more importantly, we wil have our own peace.

48 PDM  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 7:21:57pm
The United Arab Emirates has held its first national beauty contest for camels with a prize fond of about $27,000 and various trophies for winners.

I bet if the prophet Mohammed were alive today, he would select the winner for a wife.

49 Elizabeth  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 7:49:06pm

#48 PDM: You're bad! That's liable to cause a riot!

50 Paul of Arabia  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 8:25:19pm

Hey! The camels that eat the trash out of the dumpster outside my house are none too pretty, not are the still-legged ones blowing up in the heat next to the smashed remains of the Mercedes that took it out at 240kmph at night along with the driver. Anyone who's lived in elk country will know what I mean - a camel on the road in the middle of the night is no laughing matter.

As to Muriel Gray, maybe she's just found material for her next horror movie - Beauty and the beastly.

51 PDM  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 8:27:39pm

#49 Elizabeth,

Well, the Islamo-scum would be glad to murder me even without such a comment. I'm an infidel and I sell music for a living.
-----
So Mohammed (peace be upon you and your camel wife) on your wedding night, hump with vigor (until the cows come home)!

52 Dee Bates  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 8:31:07pm

Stupid women. Where's that "Not in MY Name" thingie. Is it about these women? I'll sign. They sure as hell don't speak for me.

Women's issues. They are the only women I have any issue with.

Stupid women. Stupid people.

Dee

P.S. You guys are a funny lot.

53 Silla  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 8:42:09pm

Tell you what I have an issue with .... camel toes? Wtf???
Whatever happened to....
Baldrick, gate, charged chamber, velvet leaves (my personal favorite) chaste treasure, ring, dearest bodily part, flower, bird's nest, forfended place, glass of virginity, nest of spicery, pond, rose, Venus' glove ... (I coud go on, believe me)

54 m12edit  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 8:58:54pm

#53 Silla

Camel to is a very specific condition of the:
baldrick, gate, charged chamber, velvet leaves chaste treasure, ring, dearest bodily part, flower, bird's nest, forfended place, glass of virginity, nest of spicery, pond, rose, Venus' glove ...


especially the hot wheels girl

(sorry, a final example had to be given...)

55 NTropy  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 9:10:20pm

Nothing much left to the imagination is there m12edit?

56 zulubaby  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 9:15:57pm

m12edit (#54)

Well that's just lovely!, although Q will enjoy it, no doubt ;-)

"Camel toes" is not sexy. Really it isn't. There has to be a better way!

57 m12edit  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 9:24:36pm

55, 56

I really don't want to be the authority figure on this, but there was way too much confusion being posted...ahhh, yes the internet is a wonderous place...

58 Brenda  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 9:32:55pm

I can't hold back any longer from camel-honking...


In a Minnesota newspaper's cheerful, up-with-diversity consideration of the camel in Somali life (below), an immigrant was quoted: "If I want to get married, I pay 100 camels to my bride's family. If I take a man's life, I pay 100 camels to the tribe of the victim."

What a boon to social interaction. I had no idea. Immigration from places like Somalia has brought so many different customs that we stuffy Americans have not even imagined. The diversity of the Somalis has shown us Americans how our adherence to law and individual liberty can limit our cultural horizons.


"Minnesota's Somalis can have a taste of homeland -- camel meat" (originally in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune)
[Link: www.hamarey.com...]

59 Jeff S.  Mon, Nov 25, 2002 9:49:03pm

I wonder which one the prophet mohammed would take as his wife.

60 Clem Snide  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 2:01:32am

The six year old one of course, Jeff.

61 Tom Saunders  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 2:03:59am

Of course camels are beautiful, but would Mohammed marry one?

62 CA  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 3:42:50am
A mainly Muslim state in northern Nigeria has pronounced a "fatwa" urging believers to kill the author of an article on the Miss World pageant, which is seen as insulting to the Prophet Mohammed.


"It's a fact that Islam prescribes the death penalty on anybody, no matter his faith, who insults the Prophet.


[Link: abc.net.au...]

63 ploome  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 4:06:24am

well, guess what...?

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

The deputy governor of Zamfara state in northern Nigeria has urged Muslims to kill the woman who wrote an article which insulted the Prophet Mohammed, sparking religious riots last week.

and why am I not surprised.?

64 ploome  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 4:07:45am

(i guess i should read all posts before posting.......ooooooops)

65 someone  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 4:09:11am

This article sums up pretty well what's going on with media coverage of TROP. (Via Andrew Ian Dodge at Sasha Castel)

66 CA  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 4:17:19am

it's alright, ploome, you're forgiven for not reading my post ;-)

67 ploome  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 4:23:49am

CA.....:o)

obviously, I thought your post was important.....because I reposted ...

I can only say its very early here...and while reading BBC...decided to share this with LGF

68 Ben F  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 4:27:44am

Just think how quickly Europe will turn into Shariatopia if this peace plan gains traction!

Israel would not be forced to recognize the Palestinians' right of return and would allow only a small number of them to settle in Israel. The rest would be allowed to settle themselves in one of five European countries.
69 westoner  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 5:06:14am

It never ceases to amaze me just how much the liberals/left are opposed to freedom of choice. No one is forced to take part in a beauty contest, and yet here they are again, trying to ban, enforce, and impose their opinions on everyone else. Instead of opposing intimidation and tyranny, they are once again basically endorsing the actions of the murderous islamofascists.

Glenda Jackson is very vocal on perceived sexism in the west, but noticeable silent on the murderous sexism to be found in much of the Islamic world. Why? Why not judge the Islamic world by the same standards as the west is judged?

70 William  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 5:22:30am

#65, that article was excellent. Should be an item on the main page:

[Link: www.townhall.com...]

71 David  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 6:05:43am

no. 70,thanks for the link to this great article by Dennis Prager. As usual, he puts it very well.

It is disgraceful the manner in which the press continues to whitewash the manner in which the RoP kills. Last week, in our local paper, the article concerning the Hebron massacre noted that Baruch Goldstein was from Hebron and that "he is considered a hero by the Jewish settlers of Hebron." Of course, this implies that they deserved what they got.

As for the Arabs and their concept of beauty, as Johnny Carson used to say, "May you walk a mile under a camel."

72 lewisinnyc  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 6:24:08am

Although Australian, I am no huge fan of Germaine Greer. However, I believe that her actual quote was "We are lost in a murderous dialectic between an amoral post-colonial lifestyle and a militaristic religion. I find it horrifying."

Her comment was that militant Islam's interaction with Western 'amorality' has murderous consequences, the results of which she finds horrifying.

I believe that she was misquoted. [Link: www.theage.com.au...]

73 ploome  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 6:38:53am

didnt Germain Greer discover the 'amorality' of post colonial lifestyle after her menopause..?

74 adam  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 6:46:59am

Camels serve many purposes in Islamic lands: Pack animals, food, and as lovers that are less hirsute than Islamic women!


A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, however selling the meat to the next door village should be fine.
From Khomeini's book, "Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth volume, Darol Elm, Gom,

Now, between the camel beauty contest, and fondness of Muslims for Camel meat - [Link: www.hamarey.com...] - Kind of makes you wonder....

75 Throbert McGee  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 7:19:43am

Why not judge the Islamic world by the same standards as the west is judged?

Because it would be unfair to ask wogs to comport themselves like decent white people?

76 Mahat Macoat  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 9:10:37am

How do those leftist radicals cope with just thinking that women will eventually remove their clothing? Do they put their hands over their eyes and hum loudly until the thought of naked women goes away?

77 Fay Greenwood  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 11:23:07am

Is it any wonder that we find the acts of violence and terror perpetrated by islamofreaks impossible to understand when they go about their business drinking camel piss, eating fish liver, fucking animals and then killing them......beam me up Scotty.

78 Silla  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 12:41:33pm

#75, very telling comment. If you meant us to see that multi-cultural lefties are the real racist than point taken.

#76, women are going to start removing all their clothes? Why didn't someone tell me? Have a feeling going to school like that might boost my grades....

79 Q  Tue, Nov 26, 2002 1:22:11pm
although Q will enjoy it, no doubt ;-)

Actually, I am still in thrall to this promise. ;-)


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