Hizbollah can't be made up of liars. It includes doctors and members of the Lebanese Palriament.. [/sarcasm]

For what its worth, google does have a cache of the page, thought it is still in Arabic.

[Link: 216.239.51.100...]

Its just another beat which is in tune with the Arab propaganda machine. If they could delete or rewrite the history of the world, and deny the holocaust occurred, they surely would.

Reflecting upon the events at Camp David and dealing with Arafat, Ehud Barak provided brilliant insight when saying that for many Arabs there is no such concept as the truth, simply that which serves your cause and that which does not.

[Link: atarjim.ajeeb.com...]

arabic to english translation

Well at least it's at lgf. Just one more reason we need blogs like yours, Charles.

I'm curious, but not 15$ worth of curious, ploome :o

Behold the power of Charles...

According to Neil McDonald (CBC reporter in Beirut) and Peter Mansbridge (Cronkite wannabee in Toronto), they (The CBC) had saturated all known resources (Hezbollah TV archives, Hezbollah statements/articles/press releases etc as well as their normal "left leaning research methodologies) before insisting yjat Canadian Govt officials had been had by a hoax or even worse. Obviously , the CBC does not rely on Israeli Govt sources for iinformation, only the "tried and true trusted" Islamic sources. We should demand an immediate retraction from them (CBC) and an apology for their slipshop jounalism. THANK YOU CHARLES !

I didnt realize they charged.:o(

Don't you just love Google? Fact-checking made that must easier.

Excuse the ignorance
how can thee Google search locate a page that is no longer active?
Is there any way to retain this page before it will be deleted?

how can thee Google search locate a page that is no longer active?
Is there any way to retain this page before it will be deleted?

#11, that's what the word cache means, to store things.

Google stores web pages for a period of time (not sure how long, but it appears at least several months).
 

What's really interesting to me is how fast someone clued them in that that speech was the last nail in their coffin. Interesting because that development only happened last week after the speech became news and I and others sent a copy of it to the PM demanding he now make a decision about them.

Oops! I guess these guys will learn to keep their lips buttoned. Hoist on their own petard! A classic!

How do you ensure that the page survives? There's more than one way. I've made a .pdf of the Google-cached page. It's here:

[Link: haganah.org.il...]

Screenshots will work too, and avoid any issues of fonts, right to left language support, etc. Since this needn't be editable, that might just be preferable.

I kept my copy as soon as I suspected it would *magically* disappear. (inshallah)

Damn the nefarious western invention of "Google"! It's obvious it is an attempt by the Zionist lobby to enforce responsibility for our words and actions on us!!!

aaron - great site you have there. Keep up the good work.

OK, Shoot me down for the provenance of this semi quote from "NewsRadio" the TV comedy show:

Joe: "You can't get rid of anything on the net... It's like trying to remove pee from a swimming pool."

Google's servers are HUGE. The future is in database STORAGE. Can you spell EMC?

#18

E-M...S ? damn. wait, wait E-M-Z? ^%@##

ahah! J-E-W-S !...no?

"Toronto-person" is right Charles: the CBC isn't just quoting Hezbollah's attempt to re-write history, it's saying that its own investigation proves that the incendiary speech in question was a fabrication by, as it's so charmingly put, a "pro-Israeli freelance journalist".

Our minister of foreign affairs, Bill Graham says the speech was a factor in the decision to (finally!) ban Hezbollah. Our solicitor general says the speech had nothing to do with the decision. Whatever. I would have thought Hezbollah's previous greatest hits would have been enough to shame the Liberal government into acting. Ah, but acting means taking sides, and as Sgt. Schultz so eloquently put it in Hogan's Heroes, "When it comes to war, I do not like to take sides." So it is with these Liberals.

Just to nail this particular coffin securely shut I have sent the Googled cache to the PM with instructions to have it copies and translated and to make a note of the website from which the Google snapshot was taken (Hezbollah's net site). I've given his office the background that Hezbollah (sp?) is denying they said it and that this is in fact the Arabic copy from their own website and to translate it into English for proof that in fact it IS what they said and not something made up by the IDF. Let's see them top that!

I should hear back from the PMs office by late tomorrow or Monday morning. He'll pass it to Easter, the Solicitor General, just so there's no mistaking who said what.

Good job everybody. Thanks, Charles! Hezbollah--eat sh*t!

dont forget the wayback machine...

[Link: www.waybackmachine.org...]

can find deleted pages..

Ploome: God bless Google chache, the Wayback Machine and LGF posters...and Charles! What a team! There IS a God!

so, some Canadians are now saying that these pages which we have posted here, never existed.?

Eliz...should we send then the $15.00 for a translation by
[Link: atarjim.ajeeb.com...]

LOL

So, I guess it is all the fault of the J-E-W-S.

***

Damn you guys are GOOD!

Congratulations to Charles and LuminaT. for what could be very valuable work. Thank you to Elizabeth for jamming this down the PM's throat.

You are all too beautiful.

Terror groups participating in historical revisionism? No, never

Like the time Arafat has said that there is no connection between the Western Wall--Jews and the Temple?

Nasrallah seems to forger the year 1983...doesn't he...

Of course, it's hardly surprising that a bunch of murderers would stoop to lying. But it's incredibly telling as to just how important Canada was to them as a base of operations. This step clearly hurt them, and they need to construct a false reality that will allow them to gain entree again to the fertile money laundering ground of Canada.

As for the CBC, their agenda is all too clear. Consider this excerpt from the article:

The group fought the Israelis until they left Lebanon two years ago.

Today Hezbollah is a political party that holds 12 seats in Lebanon's parliament. It also runs schools, hospitals and social services.

Actually, they fought the Israelis until they left Lebanon. And then they continued to fight them. Today, Hezbollah holds 12 seats in Lebanon's parliaments, runs social services, and also lobs Katyusha rockets into Israel and organizes the occasional cross-border murder raid.

In fact, Hezbollah's continuation of the fight is one of the most significant proofs of what the Arab world really wants. They claimed to be fighting only to be reganing a small plot of land, but when Israel gave it to them, they just used it as the next staging ground for their ongoing war against Israel. That disproves the entire liberal belief system about resolving the Arab-Israeli conflict.

The CBC finds a way around that problem; they'd simply have you believe that now that Israel is gone, Hezbollah has stopped fighting.

I cant find a link to it now but there have been a few stories being floated around the arab news portals in the last 2 weeks from Iran (via hez) that the Merkava IV is clearly designed for war with syria and trying to stir things up - bunch o'bastards all of 'em

I would suggest all you techiies send your pages to the CBC. Deluge them.

Lessons of the blood curve

Between 1986 and 1991, when the peace process was in a state of utter stagnation, an average of about 29 Israelis were killed each year in hostile actions. From 1992 to 1996, the years of the Oslo paradigm, about 86 Israelis were killed each year. From 1997 to the middle of 2000 - the three-and-a-half years during which former prime ministers Benjamin Netanyahu and Ehud Barak tried to carry out various revisions in the Oslo process - about 40 Israelis were killed each year. Since the withdrawal from Lebanon and since the Camp David and Taba concessions were offered to the Palestinians, nearly 300 people a year have been killed in hostile actions.

The significance of these figures is clear: an Israeli withdrawal or a promise of a withdrawal does not lead to an end of the bloodshed. On the contrary, every time Israel withdraws, the hostilities increase. Every time Israel promises a withdrawal, the killing curve rises. Therefore, during former prime minister Yitzhak Shamir's tenure, far fewer Israelis (and Palestinians) were killed than during the tenures of former prime ministers Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres. Therefore, during the period of Netanyahu's territorial miserliness, fewer Israelis (and Palestinians) were killed than during Barak's period of territorial generosity. Thus, in the given Middle Eastern reality, handing over territory does not bring peace. Nor does it bring tranquillity. On the contrary - handing over territory costs human lives.

I sent the link to google's cache to the CBC, along with a snarky note suggesting they didn't try hard enough to back up their own sources, and that their haste to distance themselves from their own reporting is an embarassment to the CBC and to Canada. Even the EU recognize Hezbollah as a terrorist organization, for god's sake!

i don't mean to be a stickler - it's just that i think clarity is an important weapon in the counter-atrtack against Jihadism.

therefore i am going to remind everyone - one more time - to do as Charles has done with this posting, and stop using the phonetic spelling "hezbollah" and use the more apt spelling hizb'allah.

this spelling clarifies the connection between this group of terrorist murderers and their creed - Jihadism.HIZB'ALLAH.

thanks.

Ploome: No need to pay the $15.00--just keep track of that link in case we need a translation later on. I've sent the Arabic to PMs office for translation. Let them pay the $15.00. At least he'll see the web address and know that we wouldn't send it unless it was the straight skinny. Let Hizb'allah deny THAT!

#27 Jonathan made a terrific point--the fact that Hizb'allah is squawking so hard means this hurt--big time! It's nice to get one for the Gipper isn't it? Let them squawk!

Joe Melnick has sent some stuff and I'm going to so those who are up for it could send the googled cache of arabic to CBC with a note explaining what it is and the address to the translation service if THEY want to pay the $15.00. And tell them to be more careful in their research. Maybe if they get enough letters they'll know they can't keep denying it--'THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE'!

All in all a good night's work.

OT slightly, in the time we've been doing this though, another tempest has blown up in the teapot.

The US Drug Czar is upset with Canada tonight because we've decided to stop throwing people in jail for personal amounts of pot. So, someone should write their Congress people and ask that the US follow suit and cut people some slack. Small amounts of pot (which even George has had) are not worth putting people in jail for or worth causing an international stink over. The Drug Czar is taking his job too seriously. Lighten up!

Time for bed folks, unless anyone can think of anything we've overlooked.

Goodnight everyone! Goodnight John Boy!

Rrrright,

I recall seeing [quite a bit of time ago] on Israeli channel 2, excerpts from the Al-Manar TV brodcast showing Nasrallah adress his public shouting "Death to America!"
He wasn't pleased with the volume of chanting, so he said to them, "America won't die if you shout like that", afterwards all of them started chanting twice as strong.
They all wore black and had green bands tied around their head [probably too tight, heh]. they were also lifting their right arm whenever they shouted.

It was priceless comedy...

#30 Yehudit

!@#$!@#$ Yehudit!!!
Are you trying to confuse us with facts and stats? EVERYBODY knows its about the settlements!!

/sarcasm

The Google cache appears to be a different page - i'm doing a manual machine translation now - will post when its done

It's the definately the wrong page - details and translation via our site here

###If anyone has mailed anyone (press etc) copies of the document can you send recall notices until someone tracks down a copy of the original###

and before anyone asks - I have no idea what the devil the "archipelago of the carrots" is- machine translations not great but it gives you the gist of things

Ot, but does anyone know what happened to (is it Samal?) at the Where's Rasheed blog?

doh, that's "Salam" and "raed". Teach me to type at 3:30 am

got him - more soon

98% match now linked here

"Thanks to your activism, our supporters around the world, have already made a difference in the campaign against Rever la Palestine (Dream of Palestine) the best-selling novel for teens which sympathetically portrays a young Palestinian who becomes a suicide bomber and has been promoted as a wonderful book for young readers in France, Germany, Norway, Italy, and Canada."


JOIN THE SWC PROTEST OVER NEW BOOK GLORIFYING SUICIDE BOMBER AS HEROIC ROLE MODEL FOR YOUNG FRENCH READERS Over 30,000 Protests Sent To Date

To find any internet webpage ever posted visit:
Archive.org

As much as I despise the creeps who run Hizb'Allah, and annoyed at the fact the Canadian government did not ban them long before they did - the original story IS bogus.

That story, written by London-based freelancer Paul Martin claimed that Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah called for the worldwide spread of “the culture of suicide bombing”.

When asked directly where he got the quote, Martin said: " he cannot back up the quotes but maintains he understands Nasralla's true agenda."

In the translations that I have read here - the attributed quote does not exist. All right-thinking people understand "Nasralla's true agenda" - murdering islamofascists all - but let's hang them for their OWN words and deeds...

No wonder Michael Moore and Barbara Striesand are big fans of Hezbollah...

Thanks you guys - for writing to your govt, for being computer savvy and sharing your great sites, for being so on the ball! I love lgf!

C.

Overwatch, is #41 about #39?

Judging from the results of a WayBack machine search, the page that was the basis for the IDF article changes frequently. In the end I don't think it is all that critical that this precise page be located again. Hizb'allah's support for suicide bombings is clear, as are its warnings to the US and others not to interfere wtih its operations or else. Nor has Hizb'allah ever claimed that there is any sort of strict separation between its military and social "wings," financial or otherwise.

OT...

[Link: www.accuracy.org...]

another idiot

I'm confused, overwatch. References to the United states are quite proment in the IDF translation, but America is only mentioned as an after-thought in the nov-15 entry on the page you linked:

At the ceremony, his eminence confirmed that the martyrdom action, which is embodied by the Palestinians, was the one that weakened the Americans and "Israelis".

If anything, the IDF translation appears to paraphrase the previous passage, which makes a threat that, if american forces come to the aid of israel, they too will suffer:

And if they came to save the "Israelis" from their crisis, their feet will drown along with the feet of the "Israelis" in the mud of the region, and it will highly cost them.

This page ( [Link: www.nasrollah.org...] ) appears to be the writings of one of Nasrallah’s assistants, and it's certianly not the entire text. Still, it seems odd to me that his assistant would leave out such important passsages as "We view America as an enemy of the [Islamic] nation yet we have not engaged it directly in a military act (as of yet)" and "Due to that we must act in order to spread the concept of death for the realization of Allah's way as well as the act of suicide among the [Islamic] nation in order to protect our land."

I'm also confused about the use of the contents in braces in the IDF text:

we have not engaged it directly in a military act (as of yet) ... concept of suicide (attacks) ... dismembering the organizations (of terror) ...

I believe that it's common among arab leaders to referr to suicide bombings as simply "suicide", and i don't think they commonly referr to themselves as terror organizations. Were the braces added by the IDF translator to clarify Nasrallah’s meaning? If so, the first one (we have not engaged it directly in a military act (as of yet)) dramatically changes the meaning and context of his words.

Can anybody else offer some insight?

#42

"...Palestinian life-giving fighters usually blow themselves."

Obviously part of the missing 2% of the translation, it's too bad this isn't the extent of their (self)destructive behavior.

#51 -

ok, in no particular order.

The IDF always adds (clarifying statements) in brackets to translations where the arabic format would not necessarily be clear to an english reader or where context needs to be added.

I think the one you mentioned is added as clariifcation - and while it changes the context of the particular sentance viewed in isolation it captures the spirit in which is want meant in view of the rest of his comments

The age quoted is not the entire text of the speech but a summation of the meeting - but right now thats better than a full speech which has disappeared. Combining that with the IDF highlights I think its enough to keep the canandians happy that he's not playing nicely.

while the report is not 100% explicit on the spreading it worldwide but it is implied from the combination of A) it worked against the US & B) they will continue but they must pick their time and place - [this must be in the context of homicide attacks outside Israel as he is quite clear on the contstant ongoing nature of those in israel and his funding of them]

As to why leave out most of the US references - i suppose the page may have been edited by them as well.

incidentally the blog you're linking to seems to have a load of anti-globalisation lefty peacenik bollocks in it - have you been hacked?

incidentally the blog you're linking to seems to have a load of anti-globalisation lefty peacenik bollocks in it - have you been hacked?

Not at all. But you're welcome to judge me by the company I keep : ).

#45 - Flanagan, thank you making that point.

I first raised the issue of the bogus quote yesterday. This pseudo-journalist "Paul Martin" should be blackballed by ALL news organizations. If you can't back up a quote - or even worse - if you are caught fabricating an incendiary quote such as this (ie. Nasrallah encouraging Palestinians to export suicide bombings world-wide "don't be shy about it") then you don't deserve to be called a journalist.

This is the particular issue here... over THIS particular quote that received such wide play in the Canadian Press. Whether Hezbollah are really bad guys are not, thats another story...

Does Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah translate to Winston Smith?

This sounds so much like the Ministry of Truth in 1984 that I had to pinch myself. I can imagine a pale white building in the Middle East with scores of workers re-writing history every day to suit the whims of the Inner Party.

War is Peace

Freedom is Slavery

Ignorance is Strength

Sorry, OT, but Drudge is reporting that Sean Penn arrived in Iraq at the invitation of the Institute for Public Acuracy. HAHA..

[Link: www.accuracy.org...]

And now Carter wants another shot at mediating the Israeli/Arab conflict.. hahaha..

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

Sorry for two OT posts, but those are morning laughers..

A concern about paying for translations. One would assume that a credit card would be used for payment. That would leave one wide open. I would not give a credit card or any personal information to any ME/Islamic/Arab site!!!

My family is nervous enough about my activism. The last thing any of us needs is to have these wackos target our loved ones.

Regardless of the accuracy of the statement, the objective of world-wide terror via suicide bombings is a reality. Therefore, all terrorists supporting organizations such as Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Hamas, etc. and the religious organizations who fund them should be banned and the leaders hunted down and prosecuted—world wide!

The more they shoot off their bragging mouths, the better!

Abu sighed wistfully:

Whether Hezbollah are really bad guys are not, thats another story...

I continue my efforts to clue you in, Abu, on the assumption that you're not a student at Concordia and therefore beyond hope:

Jan 11, 1989: Hizballah, under the name Islamic Jihad, shot to death a Saudi diplomat, Ali al-Marzuki and wounded his driver in a driveby shooting from a passing car. On the same day the Saudi Embassy in Beirut was targeted in a bombing attack. The attacks were in retaliation for the execution of 16 Kuwaiti Shi'ites involved in planting bombs in Mecca during the July pilgrimage and Hizballah's opposition to the efforts of Saudi Arabia and other Arab states to achieve national conciliation in Lebanon.

Mar 17, 1992: A car bomb demolished the Israeli Embassy in Buenos Aires. Among the dead were four Israelis embassy personnel, four local embassy employees, as well as several residents of a nearby nursing home, and schoolchildren on a passing bus. Islamic Jihad, a cover name for Hizballah, publicly claimed responsibility for the attack and provided a videotape of the embassy taken before the bombing to authenticate the claim.

Mar 31, 1998: Six Lebanese construction workers were killed in the explosion of a roadside bomb. Two others were wounded. The men were all civilians engaged in construction work at an SLA outpost near Marjayoun. The attack reportedly occured shortly after a visit by Israeli Defense Minister Yitzhak Mordechai to SLA headquarters in nearby Marjayoun. Hizballah claimed responsibility for the attack.

This is only small sample of Hizb'allah gore, from The Institute for Counter-Terrorism.

I can't really blame you, Abu. I blame PM Cretin and the Canadian Foreign Office, et al, for their ignorance and moral idiocy that has given so much aid and comfort to groups like Hizb'allah. If they don't know any better, why should you?

I said it before, I'll say it again...

The Ku Klux Klan founded numerous schools, universities, and hospitals throughout America.

Does that mean the KKK was not really a terrorist organization?

Try to tell the surviving relatives of Martin Luther King Jr. that it wasn't.

#42 OverWatch: Thank-you, thank-you, thank-you...copies have now been sent to BOTH the PM with explanation AND to CBC. Many thanks for your hard work.

Have put on the copies: THIS IS THE SMOKING GUN!

There is enough evidence there now in the PM's hands and those of CBC that they should know that Hizb'Allah has been trying to slime one by them. I don't think we're in any danger of the Solicitor General reversing his decision but I wanted to be sure that the PM and he also knew Hizb'Allah was lying for their own reasons.

That was a nice touch having that copy come off Nassrallah's own website. What a MAROON! Bugs would have loved this!

Charity events, Hizb'allah style:

The charitable organization Al Shaheed Social Association held its Yearly Iftar Ceremony ... The ceremony was intervened by word of Hizbullah SG, his eminence sayyed Hassan Nasrallah.

Nasrallah brags about their "social" work, especially in the field of Child Abuse:

At the ceremony, his eminence confirmed that the martyrdom action, which is embodied by the Palestinians, was the one that weakened the Americans and "Israelis". He also indicated that level of the enemy’s interest to disarm this weapon reveals great value of this weapon, which made the children unafraid of death, and made them climb tanks to grab its supplies.

His eminence added: it is very normal for children to be mostly terrified amongst people who are terrified of shelling and air strikes. However, the children of Nablus turned the equation up side down and took to streets ... it is the unarmed Palestinian child who broke all fears. This is the child with respect to whom, death has turned into a game like any child’s game, which neither frightens nor scare him, and therefore he climbs the tank, instead of hiding, grabs its supplies, then walk away.

Besides turning children into weapons, they encourage families to turn their sons and daughters into ammunition:

One of the most successful experiences sponsoring the families of the martyrs was the project of “sponsoring the children of the martyrs” which achieved significant outcomes.

This excerpt was cut and pasted from the Hezbollah site earlier in the week:
An excerpt from Nasrallah's November 29 speech. NOte his euphemism "Zionist" for "Jew":
What restores and protects Palestine, is what the Palestinian people have chosen, such as its great martyrs who astonished the world, and who broke into the fortresses with their bodies and weapons to shake the entity and security of this enemy and its settlers. This is the way via which we are looking forward to the conclusive victory, God willing. This Intifada, likewise the resistance, will not end into political reconciliations. Since the first moment, it was ordained for this Intifada to ignite in the name of Allah and the blessed blood of the martyrs that was shed in al-Aqsa Mosque. Its martyrs are seekers of God’s love and His meeting, and nothing will weaken them or their will. This is why this is the Intifada of Victory and Liberation, and will create the miracle sooner than this world could ever anticipate.

On the Day of al-Quds, we must declare the following: we are a nation who does not assault anyone. The resistance in Lebanon was a movement that defended the country, people, dignity, and still is. Today in Palestine, the Intifada is also a state of defense. The Palestinians did not assault anyone. They did not go to Russia, Ukraine, Poland, or Ethiopia, in order to kill the Jews. Instead, these Zionists came from all over the world in order to usurp the land, sacred places, cities, and villages of the others. The Palestinians are doing nothing but defending themselves, and all the martyrdom operations with all of its targets are moral, humane, legitimate, honorable, and are allowable activities, because they aim at eliminating tyranny, occupation, evil, cancer, and corruption.

Therefore, we unveil the unjust treatment conducted against Lebanon, Palestine, Arab, and Muslims, especially at this stage, and this is because the people of these regions are defending themselves. We are not war mongers, and we do not want to create war against anyone. But whoever assaults us, occupies our land, soils our sacred places, and wants to disgrace us, will find that our flesh is not edible, and our blood will turn into erupting volcanoes that will shake the land under their feet, regardless of the identity of the aggressor, Jewish-Zionist or American-Zionist, and regardless of which side this aggression and invasion came from.

If they came to violate our sacred places, they will find in the region men and women who are willing to sacrifice themselves, men and women who borne the culture of courage and rejecting humiliation, and their slogan is as it has always been: “we are too proud to be humiliated.” We would like to bring the attention of this nation to the great dangers that are threatening our region and nation at this stage. We are facing head-on an American-Zionist Project to lay the hand on the region, in order to revamp its political map. We must think with a broad horizon and the long term objectives, and we must not be misled by the false slogans that are launched by the American administration to save the people. Why this American administration did not wake up earlier to save these peoples? We must be aware of these satanic and grave objectives borne by them.

The rulers of our countries are invited to make a further approach towards their peoples. This will protect and solve the problems of their peoples.
Racing further towards the American administration arms will only increase the feebleness of these rulers. If you want to maintain your strength and dignity, your must return to your nation, culture, peoples, and you can do so.
The chance is not over yet. These peoples and nations are self-forgiving, and can ignore and forget the past, once they found their rulers standing by their side in the positions of defense, defending the interests and dignity of the nation. These nations are ready, but they are frustrated by the regimes and the oppressions and injustice. However, they are ready to overcome their suffering and wounds, once the battle turns into a battle of defending the nation, and its dignity and future. It is also our obligation on the Day of al-Quds to maintain our alertness and give attention to the American administration and the Zionist government along with the autocrats of this world who will work at this stage on crushing the remained strength of our nation. Therefore, we will witness more incitement to provoke the Arab and Muslim nation against each other via inciting the national sensitive issues.
We are beginning to hear once more about some satellite TV channels that show programs about Arab, Persian, nations of Afghanistan, and other nations, inciting them against each other. We will witness how enmity and provoking Arab and Islam nations against each other will take place. They will try to revitalize hatred of the past among nations and countries.

What is more dangerous is playing the religious and sectarian strings. The Americans have spoken about crusade in order to provoke Muslims and Christians against each other, especially at this eastern region of the Arab and Islam world. They have reached this level of provocation, and what is worse is that they will try to provoke sections against each other, especially the Shia and the Sunni.

We are coming across a time in which the Muslims, all Muslims, especially the Shia and Sunni need to unify and cooperate, while each one may maintain his ideological thoughts, concepts, and religious matters. They all must cooperate in order to restore al-Quds and defend the Palestinian people, their religion, and their prophet Muhammad(S), who has been accused by the greater men of the American Zionistic Christianity as being a “terrorist.”

Looks like the Lebbies are a bit peeved. They can go straight to hell.

[Link: www.thestar.com...]

I should have read this story before lunch. Made me sick to the stomach.

[Link: www.thestar.com...]

Has anyone encountered Rex Bynen, the associate prof at McGill, who seems to opine that Hezbollah is not a terrorist organization? Please provide details so that the Globes decision to use him as a source can be challenged.

Here's the kind of posts you find on [Link: www.cbc.ca,...] the web site of the Canadian national news network:

bmwahlen - 02:53pm Dec 13, 2002 EST/EDT (#534 of 541)

You're cleared. Self-defence.

The atrocity in New York was predictable and inevitable. It was an act of retaliation against constant and systematic manifestations of state terrorism on the part of America over many years, in all parts of the world.

bmwahlen is emblematic of the cancer that is eating away at Canada.

#68 Fact Checker 245:

The atrocity in New York was predictable and inevitable. It was an act of retaliation against constant and systematic manifestations of state terrorism on the part of America over many years, in all parts of the world.

This is a quote lifted from a putrid Op-Ed by Harold Pinter in the Telegraph. So, bmwahlen is a plagiarist, too.

I don't agree with your characterization of the "cancer that is eating away at Canada." You can find sentiments just as offensive on message boards right here in the good ol' US of A.

I have studied Islam and the Koran to a point, and I have come away with a certain understanding: It is OK to lie, to cheat, to steal, to hurt, to maim, and by all means it is OKEY-DOKEY to KILL. As long as you lie, cheat, steal, hurt, maim and kill the Infidel. This is "jihad."
But, man, if you so much as look sideways at a fellow "believer" then you might spend all of eternity licking goat testes.
This is why in Pakistan, you can't be sentenced to death for killing an Infidel.
There is zero concept of "inter-faith" tolerance or PC style respect for diversity. The modern day version of Islam gives me, or any other "infidel," three options:

1) Conversion
2) Death
3) Slavery

Failure to see this, the true Islam, is just blind stupidity.

r.