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The Fiskie Award

Sat, Jan 4, 2003 at 8:11:18 am PST

It is my great honor to announce the winner of the First Annual Robert Fisk Award for Idiotarian of the Year (Fiskie for short). And the winner is ... the man known to Simpsons fans as “history’s greatest monster” ... the 39th President of the United States ... Jimmy Carter.

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1 Charles  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 6:15:51am

And a big LGF thank you to John Cox and Allen Forkum for the cartoon and Fiskie design. Check out “Black & White World” for more of their work.

2 Paul  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 6:16:20am

One election Jimmy was fully qualified (in fact, over qualified) to win. It was an honor to cast my vote for him.

3 Colt  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 6:34:44am

Oh, that is fantastic!

I just want to add to Charles' thanks, great job guys.

4 Hung Chad  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 6:35:39am

I demand a Recount! Dade county is Moore county!

5 GI JOE  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 6:38:53am

DOES ARAB VIOLENCE PAY OFF?
by Carl Alpert

"Ever since the Yom Kippur War, almost 30 years ago, everything that the Arabs have gained has come about as a result of their use of force. They point to the Yom Kippur War itself, Egypt's surprise attack, which ended with the surrender of the entire Sinai, even the last of Israel's holdings, Yamit.

The first Intifada gained for them the Oslo agreement, the safe ensconcing of Arafat in the West Bank, the establishment and arming (by Israel) of the Palestine Authority, and the withdrawal of Israel from major West Bank cities and most of Gaza.

It was the repeated violence of the Hizbullah that brought about Israel's hasty withdrawal from Lebanon.

More recently, Dr. Abdel Aziz Rantisi, a Hamas leader, observed that the bloody and painful terrorist attack on a bus in Jerusalem was what motivated Amram Mitzna, head of the Labor Party, to declare thereafter that he is prepared to withdraw unilaterally from the Gaza Strip. In other words, it appears to them that everything they have gained, and Israel's capitulation, has always come about after intense terrorist violence."

6 Scrall  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 6:42:34am

Hey, GI Mike. Chill for a while. We're here to celebrate Carter's idiocy. Needless to say, it's going to be a big celebration.

7 HA  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 6:44:55am

PRICELESS!

Jhimmi, Jhimmi, Jhimmi...!

8 stern  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 6:48:24am

A fitting tribute to the man who gave me the 13.5% 30 year mortgage.

9 me2  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 6:48:45am

That trophy design is brilliant. Man, those two guys are good.

10 Erik  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 7:00:27am

Empty head, loudspeaker mouth.

11 Hearty Bacchus  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 7:04:58am

The big question is whether he will be a one term Idiotarian

12 Jeffrey Edelman  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 7:07:27am

" Thank you, thank you, LGF.... I just wish Fidel, Moammar, and Ho Chi could be here to celebrate with me....."

13 Jamie Irons  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 7:11:22am

It feels so good to have voted for the winner!

;-)

Jamie Irons

BTW, Stern (#8), You should refinance!

:-)

14 Ranbutan  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 7:22:01am

Another voice on the Jhimmi the Dhimmi bandwagon. NY Post humor column by Mike Kelly. in which Jhimmi gives back his Nobel Peace Prize.

Future Confessions

In all Goobers past deeds, I'd sort of forgot he inserted himself into Somalia after Adid's men killed 18 Rangers. Carter's urging of Clinton to withdraw to "gain peace" is thought to have contributed to Binnie's decision that America was weak.

Sort of an echo of Jhimmi's total spinelessness the first time America was confronted and kow-towed to radical Islam during the Iranian crisis 23 years before.

ON THE CARTOON

Nice work by Cox & Forkum! Hope it gets into other blogs and even some newspapers with a story on LGF, the Award contest, and maybe a pithy Award citation.

Great idea Charles, and you took the whole Fiskie Award concept from start to finish!

Hope something about it finds it's way to a few columnists, too. We have had "Awards" to rip-off artists ever since Proxmire's "Golden Fleece" awards....but the Idiotarians have been left entirely unmolested, and there are just sooooo many of them!

Remember Bob Dylan's old song "Idiot Wind"? Suitable accompanyment music.

15 Throbert McGee  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 7:25:09am

Empty head, loudspeaker mouth.

If you look at it just right, the ''loudspeaker'' can be viewed as an exaggerated pucker with extended tongue, as though Fisk were preparing to bestow loving attention on OBL's sphi--

Oh, never mind. I guess it does look more like a loudspeaker.

16 CrazyJoe  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 7:34:36am

Ah, the fond memories of Carter's mercifuly brief, reign. I remember his tax "cut" that increased my taxes. I was an entry level engineer at the time.

He set the tone for the subsequent DemocRATic administration. The only thing changed was the complete personal corruption of the later.

And he is still gnawing at the security of this country.

17 TrailerPundit  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 7:44:55am

From a recent Michael Kelly column:
>
Carter Returns Nobel Peace Prize

'Too, Too Ridiculous,' Ex-Prez Says

PLAINS, Ga., March 17 - In a move that stunned veteran narcissistic personality disorder observers, a smiling Jimmy Carter today announced that he had decided to return the coveted Peace Prize awarded to him last year by the Nobel Committee.

"I may be the most vainglorious, self-regarding, preachifying old coot since Henry Ward Beecher, but even I know when a joke has gone too far," said Carter. "Let's consider my contributions to world peace.

"In 1991, as the United States was on the very verge of war, I secretly lobbied the presidents of the United Nations Security Council nations, and also the heads of the Arab nations, to try to persuade them to scuttle my own country's efforts to build a coalition and defeat Iraq. Imagine if I had succeeded - why, we now know Iraq was within months of building its first nuclear weapon when the war began!

"Then, I butted into Clinton's disaster in Somalia, to put together the surrender to that charmer Mohamed Farah Aideed after his boys killed 18 of our soldiers and dragged their beaten bodies through the streets. And we now know that the spectacle of the Great Satan knuckling under to a guy whose entire army consisted of 10 second-hand jeeps directly encouraged Osama bin Laden to believe that America was ripe for capitulation on a much greater scale - if you killed enough Americans.

"And the clincher - Korea. Yep, I'm the boy who freelanced the 1994 agreement with the head-case of that horror show to stop his nuclear bomb program, in exchange for a whole bunch of aid from us.

"When reporters asked me then if it was really reasonable to expect Kim Il Sung to keep his word, given that he never had before, I said: 'This is something that's not for me to judge.' Well, of course, neither that nut-job nor his nut-job son honored the deal for one second. So, now, eight years later, another American president has inherited another fine mess I got us in.

"Please, take it back, and stop me before I negotiate again."

18 Jason Rubenstein  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 7:51:57am

[falling over laughing....]

19 Alfred E. Neuman  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 7:57:53am

Sublime. This really needs to get spread around so more people can see it.

20 stern  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 8:16:10am

#13 In 1984 13.5% was a "great rate", 15.5% was common. Refinanced at 10%, then paid it off.

21 Shifra  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 8:29:53am

Congrats to the whiner...oops winner Dhimmi...uh thats Jimmy.

The trophy looks great and will be an asset as a picture on the wall at the old peanut farm or as a fine piece done in cheap tin on the mantel.

Couple of silly questions though; is this award going to ongoing? should the prize have the year added to it? if it is an ongoing award will it be for life time achievement (as this one certainly is) or just for idiotarian actions within the calendar year?

22 J. Lichty  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 8:30:55am

Cox and Forkum create yet another gem.

Go check out their archives at the intellectual activist site.

Charles brilliant as ususal.

Boy, now my Dad and I have something in common. He voted for Carter in 1976 and 1980 and I voted for him in 2002.

23 Meryl Yourish  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 8:35:37am

J., I have something (sigh) in common with both of you.

Yeah, I voted for the guy then. I plead youthful ignorance and idiotarianism.

I voted for him this time, too. I grew up and got smart and joined the anti-idiotarians.

That cartoon is simply priceless.

24 Lawrence Shmerel  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 8:46:02am

I am proud that I voted for the winner, er, I mean loser, er, winning loser, uh, I mean, well, you know what I mean. Jimmy Carter is the biggest loser I know and all the phony Nobel Peace Prizes in the world could never change that fact. Jimmy Carter, what a total IDIOT!

25 addison  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 8:58:39am

That's just perfect. Well, Mr. Carter unapologetically kissed many a dictator and tyrant backside, so he earned his award.

26 Darleen  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 9:02:53am

The Michael Kelly column was PRICELESS! Here's the link to it and check out a few others of his "2003, Through the Looking Glass: Tomorrow's Headlines Today"

I'm with the other posters here, this was the only time I've voted for Carter!!

27 Gene 6-Pack  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 9:04:47am

Retire Jimmie's number so other idiots have a chance in future contests.

28 Phillip  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 9:06:29am

My dad, a retired union democrat, always wonders how his 7 kids are all rightwing republicans. I love answering "2 words Jimmy Carter" he never has had a comeback.

29 blogaddict  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 9:07:53am

I am so pleased to have voted for Carter one more time. In honor of this august occasion, I have composed still another limerick (I find him truly inspirational):

Alhough he's the head Idiotarian,
Our Carter was no seminarian.
In his heart, how he lusted!
A fierce bunny he busted!
All salute this astute, legendary man!!

30 kamala  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 9:08:55am

AWESOME cartoon! John & Allen, you rule. And I did buy "Black & White World"--great stuff, keep at it.

31 me2  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 9:11:36am

Oops! Sorry if you see this post twice, I posted in the wrong thread the first time.

I think Kofi Annan should have made a better showing. Not to diminish Jimmy’s victory – he is a world class idiotarian. However, Kofi is also world class and he received a scant 1.8% percent of the vote. Most of us are aware of the high cost of his ineptitude, but how can Maureen Dowd receive more votes than the man who had oversight over the Durban Racism conference and Earth Summit Junk Science meeting in South Africa?

Kofi is unrivaled, really. Look at this
excerpt from a new book by S. Powers:

The UN has had the authority to prevent every genocidal episode of the last fifteen years. They have not acted once. Canadian forces were present on the ground in Rwanda. They saw the Hutu threat before the hundred days of massacre; they informed the UN of the impending atrocity; they begged for permission to protect, preemptively, the Tutsis. Nobel peace prize winner, and UN Secretary General, Kofi Annon instructed them to negotiate with the men who would, shortly, kill 800,000 men, women, and children. That tactic, shockingly, proved insufficient. The UN watched the Bosnians kill 7,000+ Muslim men in Srebrenica, Europe’s backyard. Even when Milosevic stormed Kosovo, industrially slaughtering Albanians, the UN would have nothing to do with the (NATO led) liberation effort. It ignored Saddam Hussein’s gassing of the Kurds (they were not HIS people, by the way, to do with as he wished). The RUF ran roughshod through Sierra Leone without inducing a UN intercession. The butchers of the RUF had a game they liked to play; they’d find a pregnant woman, gamble on the sex of her child, then cut her in half and remove the child to see who’d won.

A Washington Times article regarding the still ongoing investigation and trials of the Rwandan genocide show that Kofi and the U.N. remain true to form:

The Rwandan U.N. ambassador attacked the legitimacy of the ICTR (the U.N. tribunal), charging "inefficiency, corruption, nepotism, lack of protection of witnesses, harassment of witnesses, employing genocidaires as members of defense teams and investigators, mismanagement [and] slow pace of trials."


Perhaps someone here at LGF will pick up the torch and elaborate on Kofi’s fine work regarding the U.N. and Iraq or the North Korea inspection regime or the U.N. and Israel. Not for sour grapes – Jimmy Carter is a fine and deserving winner, but lets give Kofi his props.

32 DocJeff  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 9:31:53am

One wonders if Jhimmi "lusted in his heart" for this prize as well.

33 Warthog  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 10:04:40am

His most memorable quote for me was that "Americans have to learn to settle for less."

This is what the Euroweenies love him for. Our less is their more. Jimmah is still trying to take it away from us and still getting the same applause.

34 Forkum  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 10:10:28am

Thanks to everyone for the compliments on the cartoon. (John can draw a killer Carter, can't he?)

And a special thanks to Charles for allowing John and I to contribute to this momentous LGF occasion.

Maybe next year we can hold the ceremonies at the U.N.

35 Joe Grossberg  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 10:21:07am

Don't blame me ....

I was five months old when he got elected.

36 Youth in Asia  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 10:31:27am

that statue will be perfect for Carter. he can display it in a prominent spot on his coffee table, while keeping the great empty cranial space full of peanuts or other assorted snacks to serve to his equally vacuous admirers.

37 Steve Hall  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 10:31:53am

I don't know if anyone has seen this, maybe it's been cussed and disgust before:

[Link: www.holylandprotectorate.org...]

It's exactly what Jihimmie, Kofi and Pope JP have always wanted, written by a loyal French formative, trained by Notre Damme!

38 J. Lichty  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 10:35:32am

Me2:

Yes like all awards there will always be deserving losers like Kofi. A compelling case can be made for all.

Certainly Kofi has an impressive body of work upon which to build. Kofi in his last year yet has more mischief to do and he is a strong favorite for next year's Fiskie.

Fear not Kofi will shine as Iraq and Nork come further to a head.

39 Glen Wishard  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 10:38:19am

Kudos to Cox & Forkum. The trophy is perfect. Does it weep, too, like one of those South American plaster saints?

40 me2  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 10:42:21am

#34 Forkum

Thanks for joining us. This is one of my all time favorite cartoons. You guys are the anti-Rall. Thank you!

41 zulubaby  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 10:53:56am

Charles, leave it to you to pull this off. Fantastic! Cox & Forkum are genius. That cartoon is classic!

I just sent a(nother) link to James Taranto. I hope he picks this up.

42 cox  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 11:09:57am

You guys are too MUCH....Excuse me while my big fat head is applying for it's own zip code.....

We aim to please and we appreciate the the shot at kickin' it with the LGF'ers....You set them up and we'll knock 'em down...

Charles...thanks for your generousity and prolific profundity...you're my new GO TO guy...keep up the swell work and let Allen and I know how we can pitch in...I dig this stuff.

Thanks Again.....John

43 E. Nough  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 11:35:59am

Bravo, Mssrs. Cox and Forkum! Bravo, Charles!

Encore! Encore! Encore! . . .

44 NC  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 11:44:57am

In honor of the occasion, the Idiot di tutti Idiots has contributed a brand new stink bomb to the op-ed pages of the Independent. This one's for you, Jimmy Dhimmi:

[Link: argument.independent.co.uk...]

45 Forkum  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 11:48:06am

#30 kamala,

I forgot to say: Thanks for buying the book!


#39 Glen Wishard,

Unfortunately we didn't think of the weeping feature for the Fiskie, which is a great idea. However, we did make it nuclear-blast resistant.

46 kamala  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 11:56:44am

Next question is how, when & where Carter will be presented with the prize. Can't wait to see Reuters photos accompanied by one or more of the following captions:

"Carter accepts a Fiskie award from the humanitarian group LGF in Ramallah while assisting Yassir Arafat with a baby wipe cleansing and expressing support for his struggle for self-determination."

"Carter acknowledges his Fiskie award from the respected LGF organization while placing his hand over a large red button next to Kim Jong Il's bed while the Korean leader looks on. Pyongyang has insisted to the UN, in claims independently verified by our reporters, that the red button is solely for peaceful purposes."

"Carter beams alongside Osama Bin Laden at 10 Cave Street, while the former U.S. president receives the Fiskie award from the well-known LGF foundation for starving children in Afghanistan. "It is wonderful to have a brother in our mission to rid the world of tyrannical regimes seeking to impose Zionist hegemony on the Middle East," stated Bin Laden in the press conference.

47 kathyn  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 12:08:55pm

Great cartoon...Cox and Forkum are just brilliant. And thanks to Charles for the contest and the privilege of voting for the winners....uh..losers...anyway, world's greatest idiotarians. It has been shocking to see how many deserving idiotarians there are and the influence they have wielded in our lives. And I also agree that Kofi Annan deserves a runner-up award. I'm keeping him in mind for next year's contest, for sure. I feel confident he'll be deserving of it.

48 Model4  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 12:11:48pm

Allow me to say "ditto." Great contest, great participation, and the cartoon and trophy design are priceless.

Honorable mention to the LGFer that submited the "guy with head up own ass" photo as trophy candidate.

Seems a lot of people are hoping for outside media attention. Perhaps Charles will see fit to elaborate on the term "Fiskie" and maybe add links to the results of each round of voting? And how about a pic of zulubaby in that "dress" she wore to the awards ceremony? I mean I've seen sturdier cobwebs!

49 HA  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 12:20:16pm

me2 #40,

That one hangs prominently in my cubicle!

50 Andjam  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 12:23:42pm

Since idiotarian of the year voting is over, should the poll be changed to something that people can vote on? Any suggestions?

51 HA  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 12:30:41pm

Kathyn #47,

It has been shocking to see how many deserving idiotarians there are and the influence they have wielded in our lives.

A yearly prize is clearly insufficient to recognize the huddled masses of idiotarians for gracing us with their idiocy. We need a monthly or weekly award.

I've got it! How 'bout a March Madness Idiotarian tournament?

52 HA  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 12:55:13pm

Meryl #23,

Yeah, I voted for the guy then. I plead youthful ignorance and idiotarianism.

You can plead all you want, but you won't be in the running next year!

Thankfully, idiotarianism is not like riding a bike.

53 Paul  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 12:57:40pm

This election brought back so many bad memories of the Carter years (1976-2002). But there was also much I had forgotten or didn't know until until I started reading other people's comments.

#8, Stern. You were lucky, I couldn't even afford to buy a house during the 70s. Rising interest rates and inflation kept me out of the market (I hope you've since refinanced).

#33, Warthog. I had forgotten that particular quote. That man is such a buffoon, and he's learned nothing since he left office.

What we have to do now is get word of the award out to the media and arrange for a formal presentation (the Rose Garden would be nice).

54 me2  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 12:58:11pm

Andjam #50 -


Since idiotarian of the year voting is over, should the poll be changed to something that people can vote on? Any suggestions?

How about we submit our predictions for significant world events we think will occur in 2003. Then we vote on the most likely one. Saddam’s demise doesn’t count. Too easy - but others, for instance:

Revolution in Iran
End of Yassir
Discovery of Bin Laden’s remains
Major terrorist attack in (name country)
$20 per barrel oil
Stock market up or down
A coherent and possibly beneficial plan put forward by a Democrat

You get it. What do you think?

55 HA  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 12:59:50pm

Cox and Forkum,

This piece is the perfect companion for your "Nobel Appeasement Prize" beauty! Sort of a tragedy/comedy theme.

That one also hangs in my cube.

56 Bob  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 1:08:39pm

re: The Simpson fan remark
Does ANYONE read Life in Hell? Matt Greoning is a hardcore liberal who equates Republicans with criminals.

57 GOD  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 1:12:37pm

WOW! No intelligent people could think such evil about a good, decent man like Carter, unlike the evil Repubs that followed him.

- Reagan gave us $ trillions in debt, a fox in every chicken house domestic policy, and illegal wars.

- GHW Bush gave us an oil war and wimped out at the end.

- Junior Bush couldn't have made it without Daddy and his henchmen to steal the election for the lazy ignoramus. BushCo is giving us another oil war and $ trillions more in debt while making his rich buddies richer.

All this, and the right wing wackos impeached Bill Clinton for getting a blow job. You guys never got one? You don't deserve 'em!

And Carter-- all he did was care about us and help the average Joe. Average Joe must be a creep if he agrees with you jerks.

58 Colt  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 1:15:25pm

I agree with HA and others, this must happen more often.

Quarterly?

59 reb ballantine  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 1:15:50pm

CONservileatives always outdoing their slimiest warped sicko LOWsssss. These Super Idiotarians never never GET IT.

60 GI JOE  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 1:23:02pm

Heres a good one:

PC culture of mind, emotion, and thougth control is an exact replica of "1984" which the liberals who brought us the PC insanity feared.

I guess they figured it is bound to happen at least this way we can force everyone to follow our absolute doctrine.

What's even funnier is that the PC followers and preachers have done so well that their minions provide their own self-policing and self-censorship or do it to those around them. It is a real top-down neo-facists mind control, Stalin and Mussolini would be proud.

It is pretty profound and amazing thing to see happen to all Americans from toddlers to seniors.

At the same time it is seen as harmless and most people who complain about it don't really complain that much and all the others just except it as a given, to me this just shows how well it actually works.

Goes to also show persistence pays off and you can wear just about anyone down with repetition.

61 me2  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 1:25:33pm

#57 -

And Carter-- all he did was care about us and help the average Joe.

Could you please share an example of this?

62 Infidel Kaffir  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 1:27:34pm

Charles, Cox and Forkum,

Gentlemen:

BRAVO BRAVO a brilliant showing all round.

The cartoon just had me rolling around on the floor.

I'd be interested in buying a
print if you ever get one done up. (Autographed, of course)

A more deserving award to Jimmah da Cracker, I can't think of!

Incidentally, Charles will you be informing his Idiotarianess
of his award? Also, does Fiskie know he has an award named after Himself?

I truly hope you have advised them both of their stellar achivement.

Kindest regards,

Simon

63 Paul  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 1:28:36pm

#57 god (small g)

You sound as clueless as your hero. Carter may be "good and decent" but he's also incompetent, simple minded, naive, and infatuated with leftist dictators. He presided over an administration that was best known for economic malaise, foreign policy dithering and Billy Beer. "I never saw a white man more in need of a blow job"* than Jimmy Carter.

*Robin Williams, "Good Morning Vietnam"

64 skinut  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 1:39:34pm

#57

We don't think Jhimmi is evil. We just think he's an idiot for thinking that every enemy has a good reason for their enmity. In fact, even more idiotic than that, he seems to think that you can make a deal with anyone.

It's sweet when a small child is like this. It's dangerous when a US president is like this.

65 Iron Fist  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 1:43:05pm

This was soooo hard. Slayer is a little to intellectual, and Pantera a bit too deep for Dhimmi Carter. I was about to give up in despair...then I had an epiphany!

[THEME
    song=Mouth
    album=Deconstructed
    artist=Bush
    lyrics=lyrics
/]

[dark, cruel laughter]

And two thums-up to Forkum and Cox :-)

[cruel hiss]
Excellent.

66 moshe  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 1:48:57pm

An overlooked entry in the fiskie award should be the American library Association.... the Social Responsibilities Round Table is made up of a group of ultra left wing fanatics, who instead of supporting America in a time of war, passed a resolution decrying the war in Afghanistan (a war supported by a huge majority of americans)..they also constantly pass the most anti-israel resolutions, including crying over the destruction of Palestinians libraries by israel during ther Oslo war..

here is a contact number for the ALA.. it might be a good idea for people to contact these individuals and tell them to start representing their country for a change.


Mark Rosenzweig
Coordinator of IRTF
50 W 96th St. NY NY 10025
Phone: (212) 865-6925
iskra@earthlink.net

67 Scott Brooks  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 1:51:29pm

Could they please make one for Michael Moore? I really do not like that SOB.

Scott

68 me2  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 1:55:13pm

#64 Skinnut -

We don't think Jhimmi is evil.

Maybe not in intent, but in affect. He may not be evil but he sure has a blind spot for tyrannical, murderous and evil regimes, does he not?

69 Kirk  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 2:00:28pm

#57, dhimmi Carter good?


Bwahahahahahaha

Interest rates over 20%
Stagnation coupled to hyper inflation
Gas lines around the block
Buildings too cold in the winter and too hot in the summer.
My pay raise held up for 6 months due to wage and price controls
Hostages held in Iran for well over a year with Carter's biggest response being the delayed lighting of the Whitehouse Christmas tree.
Bumbled hostage rescue attempt.
Giving away the Panama Canal.
Allowing draft dodgers to return with no consequences.

Hunter S. Thmpson wrote of Carter and it wasn't flattering.

70 Jay Manifold  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 2:13:56pm

How did Carter help the average Joe?

1. Decontrol of oil and natural gas.
2. Deregulation of airlines.
3. Deregulation of trucking.
4. Appointment of Volcker to the Fed (Greenspan continued Volcker policies).
5. Capital gains tax cut.

In other words, putting nearly everything in place for the "Reagan recovery." Possibly not what #57 had in mind ... to say nothing of Carter's role in getting the Soviets bogged down in Afghanistan.

71 LesLein  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 2:31:35pm

Carter did do a few good things. He wasn't a complete failure. While he appointed Volcker, he resisted Volcker's effort to end inflation.

Don't overlook Carter's victory over Killer Rabbit.

72 anon  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 2:36:21pm

Excellent--absolutely excellent!
The cartoon is also fantastic (major compliments)
And Carter truly deserved the award; especially this year

73 Andjam  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 2:44:15pm

#61 et al:

#57 might be only kidding. Check out the name and email address (me@HELL.com), and the fact that just before in #56, there was mention of Matt Greoning hating Republicans and writing "Life in HELL". ("HELL" in both cases with added emphasis by me)

74 Erik  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 2:51:35pm

End of Yassir

Now there's something I wouldn't bet on.

75 me2  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 2:52:05pm

Andjam -

Then he does an excellent impersonation of an Idiotarian.

76 Studsup  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 2:58:51pm

#35 "Don't blame me ....

I was five months old when he got elected. "

You mean were a Democrat and didn't vote then?

As for me, I voted for Carter twice and picked the winner on both occasions. This time was much more satisfying, and his victory thoroughly deserved.

77 OverWatch  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 3:13:08pm

John and Allen...fantastic work guys :-)

78 Lesley  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 3:27:04pm

Well, finally an award that Jimmy deserves. The cartoon is fabby.

I am pleased to say that I did not vote for Jimmy. Not even only because I wasn't quite old enough to vote in 1980 (having only been 16). I really wanted to vote for John Anderson in that election, the beginning of the third party freakiness I have since exhibited. I even wanted to vote for Gerald Ford in 1976. I think all those teeth scared the hell out of me at the age of 12.

79 Athos  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 3:30:18pm

Kudos to Charles, Cox & Forkum for all the great work on the first FISKIE.

Kudos to all for voting and participating. Hopefully James Taranto and others will pick up on this and help spread the great news to Carter. Couldn't go to a more deserving idiot.

Kudos to #'s 69 and 70 - excellent response to #57's attempt at joining Carter as an honorary idiotarian. His presidency was a far cry from successful, just as Bubba's was.

#31 - ME2, one thing to consider is that a number of votes that could have gone for Kofi also went to the UN. Kofi is only one person, and personifies the idiotarianism and uselessness of the UN - but the real empty shell is the UN as a whole. That institution is worth an institutional strength Fiskie award - althogh Fisk's latest contribution to toilet paper (kinked to earlier in the thread) proves why this award was named after him.

80 Jim  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 3:50:46pm

It brings tears to my eyes. Jimmy used to consult with his then 9 year old daughter and ask for advice on foreign policy. And he is the winner of the biggest idiot award now, what took you so long Charlse?

81 jaz  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 4:00:49pm

Please be reading this, Jimmy: We Know your a Succer for awards! And Jimmeh, if I may be so bold, if you are reading this, let me just make one small comment: YOU TRULY ARE THE KING OF ALL IDIOTS!

82 Jim  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 4:08:36pm

Charles,
Would it too much to ask for a Tee-shirt with the cartoon of Jimmy on it? I place the first order for a med. size tee-shirt. Thanks Bud.

83 Stretch Cannonbury  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 4:15:34pm

Great job on the Fiskie. I think the fact that Carter won demonstrates a pretty sophisticated vote. A true Idiotarian is not just an idiot, but has the potential to do actual harm. Carter clearly fits the bill, what with his reflexive coddling of dictators and his ad hoc vanity foreign policy adventures.

84 Curmudgeon  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 4:18:41pm

Also, don't forget that Carter cut the military to the bone -- and then cut bone. (Been there; went through all that.)

All things considered, this is simply OUTSTANDING!!!! Well done, Charles!!

To keep interest going, maybe we could have quarterly awards, running up to an annual award. And maybe we could have two: an individual award (for folks like Jimmah), and an institutional award (for agencies like the UN).

85 me2  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 4:18:58pm

#79 Athos

Good point about adding the U.N. to Kofi's vote count. We could throw in our State Department as well.

86 zulubaby  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 4:27:08pm

Nice idea Jim (#82)!

Charles, John, Allen? How about it?

87 ric  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 4:29:58pm

You sound as clueless as your hero. BUSH may be "good and decent" but he's also incompetent, simple minded, naive, and infatuated with RIGHT WING dictators. He presided over an administration that was best known for economic malaise, foreign policy dithering and A CRACK WHORE NEICE.

The names and descriptions have been changed to indict the incompetent (at best).

88 Iron Fist  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 4:38:24pm

Charles,

I am in agreement with Jim and zulubaby (then again, I am rarely, if ever in disagreement with zulubaby :-)

I'll need XXL or XXXL (19.5 inch "neck"; finding dress shirts is,to say the least, difficult).

I'll buy two.

I start work monday. Woohoo!!!

89 AW  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 4:46:05pm

Guys/Gals, came across this item via OpinionJournal.com's "Stupidity Watch":

[Link: www.roanoke.com...]

Text copied below:

Thursday, January 02, 2003
Totalitarianism nears
Without protest, Americans are giving up freedom

By GLEN T. MARTIN

IN NAZI Germany at this time of year, people freely shopped in large department stores for gifts for family and friends. The streets were full of traffic. It was "business as usual" for most of the citizens. While in the colonial states conquered by the Nazis, and in the concentrations camps for Jews, gays and communists, life was a living nightmare of dehumanization and human-rights violations.

In the United States today, people freely shop in large department stores for gifts, and the streets are full of traffic. While in our most recent victim states of Afghanistan, Iraq under murderous sanctions, Argentina after engineering its economic collapse, and Colombia under U.S. military aid for repression, life is a living nightmare of dehumanization and human-rights violations.

But what once separated the United States from Nazi Germany was the protection of civil liberties for American citizens. People of Germany had no rights and did not care. Those few who did care were so terrified of their government that they did not dare to speak out. Those who did speak out were declared "enemy agents" and sent to concentration camps.

Today, people of the United States have given up their rights through the "Patriot Act," the "Homeland Security Act" and the Pentagon's new system of "Total Information Awareness." The astonishing thing about this "land of the free" is that most Americans now have no effective rights and do not care.

As long as they are free to shop in department stores and have traffic in the streets (with automobiles burning oil stolen from dying Iraqi children), they do not care. And to a greater degree every day, those few who do care about our liberties and rights are too terrified of our government to speak out.

The so-called "Patriot Act" expanded our government's secret search and wiretapping powers enormously. It empowered racial profiling as a recognized police practice and allowed broad sweeps of people of Middle Eastern or Asian origin. It effectively abolished immigrants' rights, allowing noncitizens to be held in secret locations on secret "evidence," without right to an attorney, for as long as the government wishes.

The government now has the power to enter your home or your computer and secretly record whatever they find without ever having to notify you. They do not even have to obtain a warrant from a publicly accountable judge showing reasonable suspicion that a crime is being committed.

Wisconsin Democratic Sen. Russ Feingold spoke the following words from the Senate floor on Oct. 11, 2001, when he was the only senator to vote against Attorney General John Ashcroft's USA Patriot Act: "There is no doubt that if we lived in a police state, it would be easier to catch terrorists. If we lived in a country where police were allowed to search your home at any time for any reason; if we lived in a country where the government is entitled to open your mail, eavesdrop on your phone conversations, or intercept your e-mail communications; if we lived in a country where people could be held in jail indefinitely based on what they write or think, or based on mere suspicion that they are up to no good, the government would probably discover more terrorists or would-be terrorists! But that wouldn't be a country in which we would want to live."

But today, it has gotten worse with the passage of the Homeland Security Act. Notice that these titles, "Patriot" and "Homeland," sound very much like the language of the Nazis. A common slogan of the Nazi regime was "the highest freedom is a noble slavery of the heart." People are free, the slogan meant, when they have enslaved their hearts to the "homeland" in absolute obedience to their government. "Deutschland, Deckhand, uber alles!" they shouted. Blind loyalty, patriotism, and emotion must triumph over liberty, reason and sound judgment.

Under the U.S. Homeland Security Act (our rights again given away freely by a bipartisan Congress), 22 U.S. agencies are combined in order to achieve "total information awareness" on every American citizen. The government will soon be amassing a file on every American that includes every magazine subscription, credit card purchase, Web site visit, medical record, library record, bank deposit or withdrawals, every airline purchase, as well as judicial, divorce records, and so on. This will be recorded in a central data base, not by a publicly accountable authority, but by the Pentagon, which already operates in total secrecy from the American public.

Government intimidation for political reasons is real and it has begun. Our government already is using its secret data bases to harass Americans. Political activists checking in at airports at the airline desk have had their names come up from a secret government list as "flight risks." They and their luggage have been supersearched to the point where they are made to miss their flights, and then released to fly. Obviously if they were really "flight risks," they would not be allowed to fly.

Attorneys have found that their attorney-client privilege has all but disappeared. The government has even placed hidden cameras in prisons to record attorney discussions with their clients. The government has begun harassing people maintaining Web sites they consider politically objectionable.

The Justice Department announced a plan to use its newfound power to designate U.S. citizens as "enemy combatants" to place such people in concentration camps. Declaring them "enemy combatants" would strip them of their constitutional rights, their access to the courts and allow the government to indefinitely hold them without trial.

This is identical in purpose to some of the Nazi concentration camps.

Do we citizens care at all about the future of our children or the plight of the millions of citizens in this country of Arab descent, or those who nonviolently oppose government policy? We have repeated for so long the slogan "it can't happen here." But the darkness and terror of totalitarianism is coming rapidly.

Do we have the courage and integrity to speak out now, before it is too late? Or will we continue to freely shop in our large department stores for gifts for family and friends - as they did in Nazi Germany.

GLEN T. MARTIN is professor of philosophy and religious studies at Radford University.

90 Paul  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 4:48:31pm

#87, ric

"crack whore neice" Hey, I'll drink a Billy Beer to that!

91 Stan Morris  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 4:51:11pm

The Fiskie award and its recipient should be also remebered by this wheezy old joke. If vegetarians eat vegetables what do humanitarians eat?

92 Iron Fist  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 5:04:17pm

[DEEP, calming breath]

[THEME
    song=H
    album=Aenima
    artist=Tool
    lyrics=lyrics
/]

[P]ric[k]

Be glad this is virtual :-)

Live, well, however long.

P.S. Still think I'm crazy Meyrl?

It’s not sanity, hon. I almost joined the Outlaws in the early ‘90’s. The dojo I train at has a high percentage of bikers (imagine that). That’s my culture. Prick and I’d get to face off.

My bet is he’d piss his pants, but he might make a fight of it.

And I might very well do, um, well vital harm to him.

Again, that’s my culture.

[DEEP, calming breath]

Be glad this is virtual.

93 HA  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 5:09:36pm

ric #87,

He presided over an administration...

WAKE UP! WAKE UP! You're dreaming again that the Bush administration is over!

I hate to break the news, but he is STILL president. Likely for a second term - with Condi Rice to follow.

Now go clean up the sheets.

94 Erin  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 5:11:06pm

Carter dealt the farming industry a blow from which it has never recovered.
Fantastic contest, cartoon, website!
What fun!

95 zulubaby  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 5:30:01pm

Model4 (#48)

If you want to be more specific about which ceremony and which dress, I'll see what I can do ;-)

Iron Fist (#88)

'Cos you know I'm much tougher than you, right? (Okay, I'm running away now :-)

96 blogaddict  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 5:31:47pm

A little stroll down memory lane with Carter, for the nostalgiac among us: [Link: www.newsoftheodd.com...]

97 ric  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 5:48:35pm

iron fist,

are you referring to the outlaws of the first bush administration or the hell's angels wannabes. give my regards to rusty dick.

98 Iron Fist  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 6:11:17pm

ric,

"the hell's angels wannabes"

Dude, you've got more balls than brains.

I've known people who would have killed you for that comment.

No lie, no bullshit.

99 Lurker  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 6:32:31pm

#69 Kirk:

You said it all....it pretty much sums up Carters tenure as Pres. Who can forget the styrofoam cups in the White House and the Mr. Rogers sweater presidency? Unfortunately, he went on to do more and more damage.

Great work Charles , Cox and Forkum. That drawing would make a great LGF T-shirt.

I'm proud to have had the opportunity to support Jimmy again, and know my vote (this time) meant something. Back in the day, I voted for him and defended him. It is a testament to a parent's unconditional love of their children that my father still talks to me to this day.

Mea Culpa

L.

100 Iron Fist  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 7:02:27pm

#95, zulubaby,

Big :-) and hugs, and kisses :-)

I've just been reeling because of ric's incredible stupidity.

"the hell's angels wannabes"

JFC, dude's nuts. I don't know whether to laugh or be angry :-)

101 Rick Reed  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 7:07:40pm

Atop all Jhimmi's shortcomings noted above, he's prolly a sloppy "homebuilder" too.

Cordially...

102 Yehudit  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 7:24:47pm

Speaking of idiotarians - guesswho's back!

103 Kina  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 7:45:56pm

I am SO serious! This should not just be an isolated LGF award...people NEED to know! Thank goodness ZG emailed WSJ...I am off to email Andrew. Let's get the good news out now!!
And Yehudit, EEEWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

104 Matt K.  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 7:53:09pm

I bet George from Washigton D.C. will be number one next year.

105 JRW  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 7:54:56pm

Completely absurdly OT:

Today is (most certainly) anti-idiotarian J.R.R. Tolkien's eleventy-first birthday. Cheers!

106 cantrecant  Sat, Jan 4, 2003 8:36:54pm

I'm not convinced the man is either evil, or a complete fool, or merely a suit. He reminds me a little of an account I read once of Francis of Assisi going to have a chat with some 13th century Sultan during a crusade on the premise that it was better to create christians than to kill muslims. Francis himself was accepted as authentic but the net effect of his message on the muslims appeared to be nil.

107 zulubaby  Sun, Jan 5, 2003 1:59:26am

(#100)

Big :-) and hugs, and kisses :-)

To you too Iron Fist :-)

Don't mind ric, he's trolling, not worth getting angry about. Take it easy ;-)

108 NTropy  Sun, Jan 5, 2003 2:22:53am

I imagine the trollers were brought here courtesy of the InstaPundit mention. I've always wondered why they bother but then I remember I've probably done the very same thing to anger lefties too.*shrug* oh well, ignore and learn

109 zulubaby  Sun, Jan 5, 2003 2:42:06am

Ntropy,

Not all trolls can, or should be ignored, but ric certainly can be. No great debates will be inspired by ric, in my opinion.

110 Geepers  Sun, Jan 5, 2003 3:18:17am

Ntropy, zulubaby,

Trolls are looking for recognition. Usually they say things that are outrageous and inflammatory for the sole purpose of getting a response. The best way to drive a troll to distraction is to debate their points, but not with them. Talk about them, refer to them and refute them, but never actually talk to them. Works every time.

And zulubaby what the hell are you doing up at four in the morning?

111 Former Belgian  Sun, Jan 5, 2003 4:48:08am

Moshe #66:

I know a little Russian, and this guy's Email address "iskra[@earthlink.net]" just HAPPENS to be the name of the pre-revolutionary Marxist periodical "Iskra" (The Spark) edited by V. I. Lenin. I think that's a bit of a giveaway about where this guy's sympathies lie :-)

Rather than being merely political orientations, Communism and Marxism arguably have most (if not all) the external attributes of religions. (Belief in a deity is not a requirement for a religion, contrary to popular 'belief'.) And as my experiences with doctrinaire Marxists have taught me, theirs is truly a "jealous god that does not tolerate others in its sight". For instance, communist Jews (from Karl Marx himself on downhill) often (not always) turn out to rival the worst antisemites in their hatred for Judaism and Israel.

112 Ranbutan  Sun, Jan 5, 2003 5:53:11am

#89 -AW

Nice piece of SPAM!

Instead of a link, you post the whole spiel of this "wise man" a "Professor of Philosophy" no less - saying we should done nothing about security post 9/11 if it could conflict with maximizing terrorist's civil liberties.

I feel so much better knowing the academics, especially those like Prof Glen Martin (at a 3rd-tier college no one really is aware of) .....are vigilant in letting us all know that the USA is on the verge of becoming the......

How original!!!....The VERY resurrection of the NAZI State!!!!

113 ploome  Sun, Jan 5, 2003 5:57:46am

[Link: arabnews.com...]

Arab News reaction to Jimmehs' nobel prize

apparently, they were disappointed with GWB response.

114 tonino  Sun, Jan 5, 2003 6:43:19am

Are you guys sure Jimmy's nothing worse than an idiot ???

115 cox  Sun, Jan 5, 2003 9:31:02am

Well, well,
Ladies and gentlemen, the call has been heard....SWAG FOR EVERYONE!!!!!!

Key chains, tissue dispensers, car mats, coffe mugs, calendars and t-shirts....capitolism is SO COOL.

Thanks for the positive feedback, ya'll. I haven't experienced this much encouragement since being thrown out of my marriage.....

Stay Frosty......

116 ric  Sun, Jan 5, 2003 4:26:28pm

tissue dispensers would be a nice touch. that way the person wiping ronald rayguns ass could use it.

117 NTropy  Sun, Jan 5, 2003 9:21:18pm

Did somebody write something? You know a defence for Jhimmi Carter? I could SWEAR I saw troll droppings just in here. Nahhhhh - anybody defending Carter would be a bigger idiotarian than Carter himself.

118 PDM  Sun, Jan 5, 2003 10:04:30pm

Cox & Forkum,

You guys are always brilliant, and the cup design is fantastic! (if I could find some way to honor you)
You deserve network coverage for this one. I'm sure idiotarians everywhere will covet the FISKIE...unless they figure out what it is.

119 zulubaby  Sun, Jan 5, 2003 10:07:46pm

PDM,

Truly awesome. LOL!

120 Forkum  Mon, Jan 6, 2003 5:45:39am

PDM ... Great job! You got us CNN coverage!

121 Ron Wright  Mon, Jan 6, 2003 9:20:55am

My father was a southern Democratic who turned Republican, regrettably, in the 1970's. Along with many others. When Jimmy Carter ran for President in 1976, I can recall my father's first cousin, who was a local Democratic Party leader, speak excitably about Jimmy and his plans for improving America, especially after the corruption shown by Nixon and the Republicans. I remember vividly how my father, a man with a 8th grade education but with an astute perception of people and events, expressed skepticism of the man.

After the 1976 election, I attended college and suffered through hundreds of hours of classroom lectures. At first, the mostly liberal professors spoke approvingly of Carter's ideas. However, as time passed, I noticed a shift in sympathy by the academia.

By 1979, my poli sci profs were giving a "Guess What Lame Brain Thing Jimmy Did Today" lecture, once a week. My literature professor complained frequently of how long the lines were at gas stations to refill his gas tank, assuming he could find a station opened. My economics professors were using Carter's fiscal policies and Volker's attempts to countering them as real life examples of what the government can do, should do, and should never ever do to a nation's economy. And so forth.

Later in the year, the Iranian hostage hit and my classmates and I spent most nights watching Ted Koppel discuss on the new show called Nightline what Jimmy was doing and, more importantly, not doing to remedy the situation. By the time the botched rescue attempt occurred, Jimmy Carter's name had essentially become a bad joke. Anyone who wore a "Gimme Jimmy" button -- and there were few, believe me -- was commonly met by a chuckle, the pointing of fingers, and a shaking of the head.

When the 1980 election was held, it was my first chance to cast a vote for President. I was reluctant to vote for Reagan due to my natural leaning towards liberal Democratic policies and Reagan's strong stances with regards to other countries, especially China and Panama. But I knew Jimmy should never had been elected President, that his 4 years at the helm was marked by a sudden downturn in the political and economic state of the country. So I voted for John Anderson. Talk about a wasted vote.

Afterwards, I watched with some trepidation Reagan acting as president, passing various legislation to cut taxes and spending, and taking a strong approach to foreign relations. With each act he made, I argued vociferously with friends against the wisdom of his actions.

However, in short order, the economy improved, serious international problems were resolved, most peacefully, and the nation's morale noticeably improved.

In eight years, I saw two different men, two different approaches to running the country. At that point, I began voting Republican.

Take it from someone who witnessed his presidency. Jimmy Carter was a very nice, decent man, but was also a very poor President.

122 GulGnu  Mon, Jan 6, 2003 10:03:13am

Well, since this thing just got linked by the Wall Street Journal, I assume we can safely say that the Fiskie has made the mainstream? =P

/GulGnu

-Stabil som fan!

123 J.D.  Mon, Jan 6, 2003 10:19:36am

Well done, PDM. Perfect. Jimmy had my support from the beginning and I'm so glad this honor has been bestowed on him. With any luck, he's at least smart enough to understand the meaning, but I doubt it.

124 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 6, 2003 11:40:34am

"Don't blame ME--I voted for Kodos!"

125 AST  Mon, Jan 6, 2003 12:29:27pm

This is a lifetime award, right? He just gets his name on the base, like the Stanley Cup. We should never forget the great depths of idiocy achieved by the first Fisk Laureate.

126 Nostradumbass  Mon, Jan 6, 2003 3:03:12pm

I hate to see Michael Moore go out like this. He's such an extraordinary competitor, and he always gives 110%. But Carter is just a steaming, throbbing juggernaut of idiotarianism.

127 gloria m.  Mon, Jan 6, 2003 3:07:55pm

Wow...the Nobel Prize and the Fisk Award!!! I'm so proud!!!

128 HA  Mon, Jan 6, 2003 4:05:55pm

Here is Jay Nordlinger's "Carterpalooza" piece to remind newcomers of the depth of Jhimmi's idiocy:

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

129 Scott  Mon, Jan 6, 2003 4:13:46pm

I voted for Michael Moore, and I feel cheated. I think the Supreme Blogosphere Court, fueled by libertarian and conservative influences, used their power to alter the clear winner.

I demand repeated recounts and the right to whine during next year's election.

130 bokonon42  Tue, Jan 7, 2003 6:54:48am

The user 'me2', who left comment 31 made a slight mistake. The excerpt she printed is from a review I wrote of Samantha Powers's The Problem From Hell. Ms. Powers would not have allowed herself to sound so critical of the U.N., I suspect. No harm done, I just wanted to clarify.

131 IWuvLGF  Tue, Jan 7, 2003 7:32:10am

#31

The right man won. Given that the major qualification for the job of the Secretary of the UN is to be anti-Israeli and anti-Semitic, it is hard to ascribe Annan's actions to idiotarianism alone. See his record of statements on Israel as proof. And Maureen Dowd is too much of a cutesy hack to bother with.

There's a certain gravitas expected of former presidents, although with Carter and Clinton that's been shot to hell. Still, Carter is deserving.

132 vidkun quisling  Tue, Jan 7, 2003 1:55:03pm

Two comments about a man less qualified than his predecessor, Lester Maddox, to occupy the office of presidency:

1. From an old Jonah Goldberg column:

"Jimmy Carter was a loser as President. In the platonic realm of pure things there is a pristine, unalloyed loser president and that person's shadow is Jimmy Carter."

2. One of the favorite stories about Carter in Washington but little known outside the Beltway was Carter's role as White House recreation director. When the staff quarreled about use of the White House tennis courts, Carter took a couple of days away from less important duties to personally design a schedule for the tennis courts. This story is not apocryphal. I knew a colonel on the NSC staff who lost his tennis court privileges at Carter's behest.

133 dougrhon  Sun, Jan 12, 2003 10:33:14am

This is a fitting choice. Jimmy Carter is the gift that keeps on giving. The damage he did and continues to do to his country through his idiocy is enormous. Winston Churchill, when asked to prepare a message for Stanley Baldwin, whom CHurchill blamed for the leaving Britain unprepared for the 2d World War, on Baldwin's 80th birthday, he responded "I bear Stanley Baldwin no ill will. But it would have been far better had he never lived." This is how I feel about Jimmy since the damage he has caused us is much greater than the good he has caused through his "habitat for humanity."

134 d quayle  Tue, Jan 14, 2003 4:36:47pm

Fool Me Once

"There's an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, fool me once, shame on - shame on you. Fool me -- you can't get fooled again."
Pres. G. W. Bush
Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002

135 d quayle  Tue, Jan 14, 2003 4:46:08pm

"And so, in my State of the -- my State of the Union -- or state -- my speech to the nation, whatever you want to call it, speech to the nation -- I asked Americans to give 4,000 years --4,000 hours over the next -- the rest of your life -- of service to America."" - G.W. Bush. April 9th, 2002. Reported by the San Francisco Gate (among others)

136 ausyankee  Thu, Jan 16, 2003 3:15:10am

"The Kwangju Uprising sparked South Korea’s democratic movement, which eventually brought about civilian rule in the late 1980s. It has been called the most important event in the history of South Korea. However, except for a few small-press books—in 1999, when Kwanju Diary was released, it was the only book in print on the uprising—the legacy of Kwangju has been ignored in the United States."

I wonder where the "anti-idiotarians" and fiskies were on Carter's role in this shameful 1980 South Korea military massacre of 2000 people. Maybe 'cuz it doesn't make the U.S.'s repulsive history in Korea look too good?

137 Geepers  Thu, Jan 16, 2003 5:20:22am

ausyankee,

Don’t have the balls to post into a thread that isn’t two days dead?

I’m sure the world would be a much better place if the DRNK ruled the whole peninsula.

Oh, yeah, And since when has it been the responsibility of the United States to wet-nurse every fuck-up in the whole world any way?

138 leo  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 8:12:59am

The day Mr. Carter received the noble prize, German government broadcast station said in their noon newsflash (which is aligned to the timetable of the parliament members) that this was "a slap in the face of George W. Bush". That's the message. If you know about Carters shakehands with the Mujahideen you might get an idea why he still took that thing.

139 ausyankee  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 3:06:50pm

Geepers,

Any time, any place dude. I rain posts from the sky.

The history of Korea, or of the dirty, frightful Korean war, in which my father served as a US army draftee, hasn't been on the right's empty-headed radar for years. This ignorance has consequences, as Dick, Shrub and Rummy have learned.

For example, did you know that one of Syngman Rhee's ROK army commanders when war broke out in 1950 was the same Japanese Army officer & collaborator entrusted to hunt down Kim il-sung's band of guerillas during WW2?

Hirohito awarded Kim sok-won a medal for his work fighting with the Japanese Imperial army, yet five years later he was fighting with the United States Army. In fact the whole ROK army was led by Koreans who fought with the Japs.

The US intelligence agencies at that time basically put Jap collaborators and war criminals in charge of the country, while the North resisted doing so with the help and connivance of China and Russia. This is history, my friend, not your shallow "fisking".

And it's DPRK, btw.

140 Geepers  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 3:46:13pm

ausyankee

Any time, any place dude. I rain posts from the sky.

Cool beans, dude. So like I said before, maybe you could rain some of your wisdom down into a more current thread and enlighten us with some insight that actually is related to the topic being discussed. Or not.

141 ausyankee  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 5:44:19am

Why isn't it related, Geepers? Carter's failure at Kwangju, Korea in 1980 was creepy and immoral. Or don't you agree with that assessment?

"Carter was watching, and the Iranian experience was on his mind. But as Chun Doo Hwan’s paratroopers circled the city of Kwangju and tested its perimeters, a meeting of high-level Carter administration officials, including Warren Christopher and Richard Holbrooke, gave the nod to the coup government to wipe out the rebels. Carter’s national security adviser Zbigniew Brzezinski summed it up: “In the short term, support—in the longer term, pressure for political evolution.”

Village Voice: Carter haunted by Kwangju Massacre

142 Geepers  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 6:05:22am

ausyankee,

Oh I get it. Carter was president while Korea was a country. Now I see the connection. That wasn’t apparent in your earlier posts.

Somehow, the former president had managed to smile and wave his way into elder-statesman status, while his role in the massacre of pro-democracy demonstrators in the Korean city of Kwangju has been all but forgotten.


This is why many of the posters here feel that Carter was an abject failure as a president and an “elder statesman” and so overwhelmingly voted to award him the distinction as “Idiotarian of the Year.”

You can debate the results of the past administrations actions, but you can’t change them. So here’s a question: Since the failures (and successes) of past policy have created the current situation in Korea, What should we be doing now and in the future to help solve the problems there?

And once again: since when has it been the responsibility of the United States to wet-nurse every fuck-up in the whole world any way?

143 ausyankee  Sun, Jan 19, 2003 4:30:50am

Geepers, your comment that "Since the failures (and successes) of past policy have created the current situation in Korea, What should we be doing now and in the future to help solve the problems there?" -I am not sure as it took 50 years to create this mess. It will not be resolved until Americans understand their own role in creating the situation, of that I am sure. The book "Korea: The Unknown War is a good place to start that process.
"when the veterans of the Korean War began returning home in the early 1950s, many U.S. citizens did not even know their country was fighting in Asia, much less that it was involved in a full-blown war with North Korea, China, and, to a lesser extent, the Soviet Union. And, because no war had been declared, organizations like the Veterans of Foreign Wars would not even grant membership to those who had fought in Korea, despite the fact that 1.75 million U.S. services members served in the Korean theater and more than 33,000 died there.

144 abu khanjar  Sun, Jan 19, 2003 1:06:01pm

You retarded Americans. Reagan colloborated with Khomeini to steal the election from Carter as documented by Gary Sick in his excellent book.

145 Geepers  Sun, Jan 19, 2003 1:10:00pm

Your funny. You were trying to be funny weren't you?

146 d quayle  Mon, Jan 20, 2003 2:48:31pm

instant karma got ronnie. we should put him on mt. rushmore, and leave him there.

147 Carol Herman  Mon, Jan 20, 2003 10:14:41pm

With Jimmah, Arafat and Kissinger, I believe (oh, how quickly we forget the forgettable!) having them, I think it's time to retire the Nobel. How can anyone ever again accept one, and think it's a great idea to jump backwards away from the Swedish king? Even the rules of acceptance are crazy. People before this didn't see a problem, here?

148 J.D.  Wed, Jan 22, 2003 1:28:12am

Never Fear, Jimmah's Here
[Link: www.nypost.com...]

149 Atomic Conspiracy  Sun, Jan 26, 2003 5:41:55pm

Gary is infallible?

And you shitheads deny that you're authoritarians.

150 RIGUARD CPT  Tue, Jan 28, 2003 6:35:23am

Shouldnt Helen Thomas be home praying for an early grave.

[Link: www.dailybreeze.com...]

151 Just a Reader  Fri, Jan 31, 2003 7:57:58am

Hi,

This makes you guys look really cool! Sure is funny, making a abusive cartoon and calling "idiot" a man that the rest of the world is honoring. Cheap Shot, Too.

So tell me what is idiotic about him. That he rose to Presidency and effectively gave it the finger when he found out that the whole game was jive? That he went on to make a difference in the world *without* the Presidential crowd? Tell me. I'm waiting to hear something other than "Well, he's an idiot" or "I really liked the cartoon".

By the way, thanks for adding more veracity to the observations made by folks outside the US that Americans are, on average, basically stupid. I (a US citizen) am beginning to believe it myself.

You can reply if you want (I'm sure there will be many defensive comments) - I probably won't come back to your site anyway, because I don't expect to see any substantive comments about how this President is clearly more stupid than our current Junior the Warrior. So you could save time and just go draw some more cartoons and play with yourself. :)

152 NTropy  Fri, Jan 31, 2003 1:24:40pm

#151 Just a Reader (Troll)

*siiiiiigh* I know this will be bouncing my head against a wall but…

Go back and read the thread. There are ample examples of what makes this man Idiotarian of the Year. Do a google search for how he supports totalitarian governments, how he seeks to undermine the current administration and other various and sundry pieces of idiocy.

The work has been done for you if you only open your eyes to see it. Should you choose to remain blindered perhaps you can qualify for next year's prize.


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