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Arabs Condemn Launch

Fri, Jan 17, 2003 at 7:35:30 am PST

The enigmatic and erudite E. Nough has unearthed a shocking story from the al-Jee'ef news wire:

ARAB LEAGUE CONDEMNS NASA LAUNCH
Arab street 'explodes' in the wake of 'illegal Zionist occupation' of Earth orbit

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (al-Jee'ef) - The Arab League "strongly condemned" today the launch of the NASA space shuttle Columbia with Israeli astronaut Col. Ilan Ramon on board. "This is surely but the first step towards complete and outright illegal Zionist occupation of space," said Arab League spokesman Abr Souffla. "We will not sit idly by and permit this usurpation of a cosmos that by birthright belongs to the Palestinian people and their Arab and Muslim brethren. The Israeli occupation of Palestine must end, and the Zionists must not be permitted any further territorial grabs of Historic Palestine, whether in the West Bank or in low earth orbit."

In Gaza City today, thousands of Palestinians marched in the streets, many firing weapons into the air. "With our blood and our souls, we will strike the orbital Zionists," chanted the protestors. Sheikh Yermani-Makr, appearing on Palestinian television, said, "It is not enough that the unbelievers have come on our land, but now they also take our heavens? How can this be permitted?" Palestinian youths also took to the streets in Nablus, chanting, "One! two! Where's the Arab manned space program?" In Nablus, three Palestinian youths were dragged through the streets by members of the al-Aksa Martyrs Brigade, who accused them of being "collaborators." Witnesses said that the teenagers were heard making positive statements about the American science fiction program Star Trek, several of whose main characters were played by Jewish actors. Reports of the teenagers having received "atomic wedgies" were unconfirmed.

In New York today, UN Secretary General Kofi Annan said that an Israeli presense in space is "unhelpful" and would only serve to further aggravate tensions between Israelis and Arabs. The sentiment was echoed from Madrid by EU representative Javier Solana, who said that what the Middle East needed was more negotiation, and "less cosmic adventurism."

Yaser Arafat's live speech on the Qatar-based pan-Arab satellite network al-Jazeera today was quickly discontinued as he began talking about "Martyrs by the millions, floating toward Jupiter."

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1 thevisitor  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 5:37:13am

LOL, what blog did that come from?

2 marek  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 5:38:10am

Pulling LGF-ers communal leg ?

3 doppelganglander  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 5:41:36am

Sending Palestinians into orbit would be an excellent thing.

4 NC  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 5:43:25am

Hamas spokesman Abdel Aziz Rantisi later told a crowd of "militants" in Gaza that Palestinians were, in fact, descended from Martians, and that the Jewish presence in space therefore threatened "the true Palestinian homeland." Rantisi concluded his remarks by threatening to blow up the sun.

*

Anyway, brilliant stuff by E. Nough (as usual). The only false note is the stuff about "atomic wedgies." As we all know, collaborators would be very lucky to get off that easily.

5 john  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 5:46:52am
"This is surely but the first step towards complete and outright illegal Zionist occupation of space,"

Those bastards, first they made the dessert bloom, and now this. Can nobody stop them?

6 BigBad  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 5:47:27am

I know it's a joke, but I'm pretty sure there was a Saudi astronaut before there was an Israeli one. This was rather surprising to me.

7 Barbara Skolaut  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 5:47:42am

#3 - OUT of orbit would be even better

8 Geepers  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 5:49:12am
Palestinian youths also took to the streets in Nablus, chanting, "One! two! Where's the Arab manned space program?"

Thanks again E.

I'm still laughing over that one. Arab manned space program. That’s rich.

9 T.L. James  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 5:50:43am

Man, I just knew this was going to happen. Just wait until Arafat unleashes the Al-Debaran Martyr's Brigades.

But if it means he moves his shabby HQ from Ramallah to Romulus, it's okay by me.

(Fine satire -- "al-Jee'ef" -- classic.)

10 J Lichty  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 5:51:23am

As Homer Simpson has said:

"It's funny cause it's true"

Who here couldn't see all of the above happening (except for the wedgie).

___

Sheik Yassin was in space before Ramon. He played Count Dookie in Star Wars Attack of Clones.
Nex thing you know Jar Jar Binks will come out in support of the Palestinians. That is when you know that their cause is finally doomed.

OT but Tolkien fans beware of a new character in Return of the King.

11 anon  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 5:56:22am

I think you mean here: Tolkien

12 The Meatriarchy  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 5:57:04am

Lets plant Israeli flags on all those asteroids that are supposedly heading on a collision course with Earth.

Then encourage suicide bombers to martyr themselves by launching themselves via "Islamic" rockets to these menacing Zionist 'roids.

The cumulative weight of the explosions will knock the asteroids off course therby saving the earth; and we will have found better use for Arafat's cannon fodder!

13 kevino  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 5:57:37am

sounds like this should have been a good news item for SNL. had to read it twice to make sure it was eal

14 Freebourne, Secularia  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 6:01:32am

Thousands of tea-towel wrapped marchers, with only their fiery, dark eyes showing, chanted "What do we want—space! When do we want it—now!" vowed to martyr themselves by the millions in protest to the usurpation by the Koshernaut of the Arab birth-right to space.

"Beam me up, Abdul"

15 Keelie  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 6:03:51am

#13 - It's hysterically funny stuff... But I too found it somewhat disquieting. When you consider some of the stuff that these folks have been saying and perpetrating on the rest of us, this piece isn't so far out.

One small step...

16 T.L. James  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 6:09:52am

#5 John: Yeah, if they can bring so much out of such an unpromising plot of desert, imagine what the Israelis could do with a place like Mars, with a whole planet to work with and no one trying to kill them all off.

Rand Simberg discussed a similar idea some time back: the Moon as a new Israel.

17 ploome  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 6:13:58am

great parody, Enough,

and as for

Yaser Arafat's live speech on the Qatar-based pan-Arab satellite network al-Jazeera today was quickly discontinued as he began talking about "Martyrs by the millions, floating toward Jupiter."

thats the answer :)...faster please

18 Colt  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 6:17:28am

LOL

That is hilarious.

"One! two! Where's the Arab manned space program?"

*bursts out laughing for the ninth time*

19 h-man  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 6:17:48am

very, very funny. i posted this on an Indymedia site as news from the Arab News. i am waiting to see the "progressives" agree with the assessment against zionist cosmic imperalism.

yeah there was a saudi prince who paid a boatload to go on a mission (circled the earth, dropped him off, cashed his check). however there were numerous jews before him and this israeli astronaut is not doing the saudi prince/ backstreet boy space adventure: he is up there because 1) he earned it and 2) he is going to be doing worthy and notable scientific experiments.

why are there no arabs on star trek? yadda yadda

20 Jonathan  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 6:19:23am

That's good comedy.

21 NC  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 6:19:30am
i posted this on an Indymedia site as news from the Arab News. i am waiting to see the "progressives" agree with the assessment against zionist cosmic imperalism.

h-man: Genius. Please provide a link as soon as comments start to appear.

22 Greg Hill  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 6:21:12am

"al-Jee'ef" == "the Onion"

23 freedomsound  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 6:26:30am

LMAO, funny stuff! That reminds me of a clip on David Letterman last night of a new "reality" show...

16 contestants, 15 martyrs...it's "Jihadi Survivor."

24 Maine's Michael  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 6:31:49am

Anyone care to stick a keffiyah on this character?

25 john  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 6:37:14am

T.L. James:

The moon belongs to everyone,

The best things in life are 'islamy'.

With apologies to George Olsen.

26 Fay  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 6:37:34am

Thanks E.Nough, brilliant as usual. And thanks Charles for posting it. Sheikh Yermani-Makr Too funny!

27 G-funk  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 6:42:21am

New to LGF, I was a little taken aback. I suppose because we've heard so much of this exact stuff for so long. Great humor though. Still laughing about the Arab space program. Can you actually imagine what they would do up there? Although, I suppose if we gave them more time, funding and resources, they'd definitely have a 'rocket' headed for 'space'. The early Apollo missions were little more than a bunch of guys strapped to an ICBM.

I can't help but imagine Shari'a-nauts with explosive belts and their finger on the launch button...

28 Frank IMC  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 6:44:23am

"Very funny, Scotty.

Now beam my toupee down."

-Jim Traficant

29 Fred  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 6:44:34am
"This is surely but the first step towards complete and outright illegal Zionist occupation of space,"

The only rockets the Palis know about are the human powered ones that go "boom"

"One! two! Where's the Arab manned space program?"

Beats me!

"We will not sit idly by and permit this usurpation of a cosmos that by birthright belongs to the Palestinian people and their Arab and Muslim brethren. The Israeli occupation of Palestine must end, and the Zionists must not be permitted any further territorial grabs of Historic Palestine, whether in the West Bank or in low earth orbit."

They don't even remember the Saudi prince that went up in '85.

At the present rate there will never be a Pali astronaut.

30 freedomsound  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 6:59:21am

OT

Interesting JPost article on BBC bias (mentions bloggers):

Internet "bloggers," fair-minded folk with no axe to grind, have been posting their outrage and compiling rap sheets of blatant bias against Israel from those who claim objectivity and then broadcast their political views as facts.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

31 selmer  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 6:59:23am

J-E-W-S IN SPACE! I love it! Thank you, Mel Brooks!

32 selmer  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 7:00:18am

Take THAT, you sandsuckers!

33 Craig  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 7:01:30am

What do you call a million jihadists rocketing to Jupiter?
Same as 5,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean- a darned good start!

34 Elizabeth  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 7:02:31am

Earth attacks Jupiter! E almost had me there for a minute--it's so like what they'd really say that it wasn't till I got to the 'atomic wedgie' I was certain it was satire. Very funny.

Pal space program=discarded ferris wheel from Coney Island!

35 Minstrel  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 7:13:59am

Weeeooo. Scary stuff, that. Would that they only gave atomic wedgies, instead of a bullet to the cerebellum.

36 selmer  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 7:14:43am

Elizabeth said: "Pal space program=discarded ferris wheel from Coney Island!"

Elizabeth, how dare you defame the name of allah the butt-nificent, and that of Coney Island (peace be upon its sand)! The Coney Island Ferris Wheel is but a small part of our glorious allah-into-space program! I and my orbital Pali Jihadists officially declare a Space Jihad on your head! Beware! As soon as we figure out how to get our transistors and Nike sport watches to work, watch out!

[Sidenote: Jihadie Trekkie Freaks, meeting set at the Atlantic Ave branch of the Space Allah Palis (S.A.P.) will convene at 8 pm on Saturday.]

37 squib  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 7:21:02am

fantastic :)

Yknow, they're so serious about their raving lunacy its really hard NOT to satire them. Extremely easy targets, i guess you could say. And when you do succeed in pressing one of their innumerable buttons, oh my, even MORE fodder for later satire.

38 Glen Wishard  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 7:36:17am

Faster, please - in fact, go to Ludicrous Speed.

39 Kylaer  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 7:43:15am

#19 H-man
What's the address where you posted it on the Indymedia site? I'd love to see the responses there.

40 J.M. Heinrichs, Capt  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 7:44:04am

"Prince Sultan bin Salman Al Sa‘ud is a grandson of the late King ‘Abd al-‘Aziz and a nephew of the late King Faisal. He is perhaps best known to the general public for becoming, in 1985, the first Arab astronaut."
-from article on London School of Arab Studies site.

Cheers

41 john  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 7:46:45am
42 Jolly Roger  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 7:52:24am

First words of the first Pali in space, ca. 4000 A.D.
'But...but...it's...round!!!"

43 PDM  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 7:54:20am

#24 Maine's Michael,

Anyone care to stick a keffiyah on this character?

You know I'm glad to do it. Can you imagine what he might say?

44 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 7:54:26am

A Jew in space... isn't this one of the root causes of Klingon violence?

45 Geepers  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 7:56:34am

J.M. Heinrichs, Capt

What's your point?

Cheers

46 Dr. Jal Hampson  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 7:58:02am

JEEEWS IIIN SPAAACE!!!

47 Haggai  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 7:59:26am

Magnificent, E. Nough. I don't know how you'll top this one, but I'm sure you will, and I eagerly await the next parody.

48 Geepers  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 8:02:11am

PDM,

As if this topic couldn’t get any funnier.
Thanks.
You’re a ___. Insert favorite complement.

49 J Lichty  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 8:10:40am

PDM = Master of Physical Comedy

Now do it to Jar Jar.

50 h-man  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 8:13:57am

i posted it here [Link: dc.indymedia.org...] of all the nazimedia sites this one is actually not to noxious as far as posting goes. by all means go to it and check out NUMEROUS pro israeli "news" articles and read the responses - utterly hysterical. you cannot make this stuff up. actually i guess you can. but whatever.

51 Jimmy the Dimmy  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 8:20:52am

Well, after they figure out how to make flashlights, they can move on to toasters, then bicycles and they'll be on their way, say, a couple of hundred years...

52 Nancy the Nazi  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 8:26:53am

They can't go because they face to mecca when they pray, spaceships are contantly orbiting while in space so they would have to pray and turn, pray and turn...

53 NC  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 8:31:22am

PDM--I think the Jabba illustration is going to go down as your masterpiece. Painfully funny. And somehow . . . strangely plausible.

54 Maine's Michael  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 8:31:38am

PDM:

Perfect!

55 Geepers  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 8:32:42am
They can't go because they face to mecca when they pray, spaceships are contantly orbiting while in space so they would have to pray and turn, pray and turn...

Astral Whirling Dervishes?

56 Matt  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 8:34:49am

No matter how many times I read this kind of stuff, I always have to ask myself, "Am I reading a legitimate news story, or is this the latest 'breaking news' from the Onion?"

Frankly, most Arab governments and their fanatic population can never "reach the sky" because their heads are too far up their asses!

57 Randall Parker  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 8:36:54am

This launch of an Israeli astronaut is all part of the diabolic plan by Mel Brooks which he outlined in SpaceBalls. The US space program is unstoppable. NASA now has the power of the Schwartz on its side.

Of course, this is no reason to get complacent. We still have to be careful not to let our Schwartz get twisted:

Dark Helmet: Shit. I hate it when I get my Schwartz twisted!

58 Valentine  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 8:38:08am

Just when ya think stuff cant get any weirder:

Arab news praise Helen Thomas!?!

59 Mohawk Daddy  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 8:53:45am

You know, that is really sad because I didn't think it was a joke. I was screwing around about this in work yesterday with my Jewish buddy. Somebody stole my idea. That's how crazy these people are, you don't know where reality stops and the satire begins.

60 Trevor C  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 8:56:37am

This is so over-the-top it`s hilarious! Are they for real? I guess there isn`t a Middle Easterner out there who has similar aspirations...

"illegal Zionist occupation of space"???

Cancel the rest of the year, boys, because we just found ourselves a front runner for the new idiotarians...

61 Trevor C  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 8:57:27am

I think I need to read a bit more closely...

62 Curmudgeon  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 9:04:38am

Nicely done, E. Nough! You had me going there.

I knew something was amiss when I didn't see a link to the original article. (I missed the bit about "atomic wedgies" the first time I skimmed the piece)

The trouble is, most of this stuff is believeable. And that's what makes it such an effective, spot-on parady.

63 Johannes Kepler  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 9:06:42am

9 "Arafat unleashes the Al-Debaran Martyr's Brigades."

Perfect.

As we all know, the Arab's right to space clearly predates the Zionist's unlawful occupation. Simply look at the names of the brightest stars: Aldebaran, Fomalhut, Rigel, Deneb, Algol, Betelgeus (and derivative names from arabic like Altair, Arcturus, Sirius, Polaris). The stars are arabs!

The Arabs hold the rights to outer space as hereditary. The Arabs were in outer space before anyone else, and will demand the right of return until the last Zionist is pushed out of the universe.

Long live the Al-Debaran idiofata!!!

64 Sharona  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 9:09:00am

H-man:

Those nattering nabobs on the indymedia site are some of the most self-aggrandizing people ever to loiter on the Net. I clicked on the A.N.S.W.E.R. protest, and was promptly treated to this diatribe:

SCENARIO & POLITICS OF JAN. 18

The world is being menaced by Weapons of Mass Destruction in the hands of a government that is openly threatening and planning to use nuclear weapons in preemptive wars of aggression against others, including non-nuclear countries. While all eyes are focused on the purported threat coming from Iraq, the Bush Administration has sharply reorganized U.S. military doctrine and strategy as it prepares to actually use Weapons of Mass Destruction in coming conflicts as a matter of declared policy.

It is for this reason that on January 18, people across the United States will converge at the West side of the Capitol Building in Washington DC and march in a mass demonstration to the Washington Navy Yard -- a massive military installation located in a working class neighborhood in Southeast Washington DC that parks warships on the Anacostia River. We will demand the immediate elimination of US weapons of mass destruction and a people's inspection team will call for unfettered access and a full declaration of U.S. non-conventional weapons systems.

Holy S&*t, Batman!!!

A.N.S.W.E.R. believes that all Weapons of Mass Destruction should be banished from the planet. But this is impossible until the biggest arsenal of Weapons of Mass Destruction -- the one at the disposal of trigger-happy George W. Bush and Co. -- is eliminated. Any other call for disarmament will not be viewed as legitimate by the rest of the world.

These war hawks are determined to breach the "taboo" against the use of nuclear weapons that grew after the world experienced the horror of the incineration of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945.

It would be cowardly and foolish to turn our attention away from the open threats and plans to use Weapons of Mass Destruction that are issuing from the White House, not Iraq, and are embodied in the new Bush military doctrine.

We must stop the Bush Administration from threatening and killing the people of the world who are not our enemy.

Wow. We're they all stoned on September 11th? Do they live on the same planet we do?

65 Valentine  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 9:14:03am

Heh Sharona, let them come. I suspect security will be more than happy to show them the errors of their ways. Oh I do got one question tho, what are the qualifications of this "peoples inspection team"? I'd bet anyone with a highschool degree would qualify, which in turn means they wouldnt recognize a nuke unless it did any airburst right over their collective noggins. :)

66 Sharona  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 9:21:32am

Valentine:

That "peoples inspection team" bit go me, too. You don't suppose that by 'peoples" they mean the ___ Republic of China?

Knuckleheads. The electromagnetic pulse of the nuke would strike them as some sort of laser light show. they'd wonder why their cars wouldn't start, lol!

67 Claudia  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 9:29:38am

Boy, it had me going. I skimmed over the opening paragraphs while watching the news. Sad to say there was another attack in Hebron... Only when I returned to reread it did I realise it was a parody. Good one.

C.

68 PDM  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 9:34:36am

Thanks folks. It's hard to go wrong when inspired by a potent combination of E. Nough and Maine's Michael.

I don't know who this Jar Jar character is, but I can stick a keffiyeh on anything. Caption by J Lichty- who calls Jar Jar "the greatest monster since Jimmy Carter" (thanks J).

69 Occasional Reader  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 9:37:06am

...a massive military installation located in a working class neighborhood in Southeast Washington DC that parks warships on the Anacostia River.

Egads! You mean the Navy is ruining the pristine, natural beauty of the Anacostia River??? Such perfidy will not stand!

The "working class neighborhood" bit is nice, too. Like, dude, you have to notice that there are, like, NO naval bases in Georgetown, ya know? Totally.

In the words of Bugs Bunny: what a bunch of maroons.

70 NC  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 10:04:08am

PDM and J Lichty--That is frontpage-worthy. Absolute perfection.

71 E. Nough  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 10:17:21am

Johannes Kepler (love the nick) writes:

As we all know, the Arab's right to space clearly predates the Zionist's unlawful occupation. Simply look at the names of the brightest stars: Aldebaran, Fomalhut, Rigel, Deneb, Algol, Betelgeus (and derivative names from arabic like Altair, Arcturus, Sirius, Polaris). The stars are arabs!

Yeah, but just in case you forget who really runs things in this galaxy, remember that the largest planet is called Jewpiter.

72 jenbr  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 10:19:37am

That was pure genius.

73 marc  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 10:27:51am

#71,

OMFG!!! im laughing so hard im in tears LOL

74 E. Nough  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 10:29:56am

PDM #43 -- that is freaking hilarious!! I'm gonna keep a copy, for every time I need a good laugh.

75 E. Nough  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 10:31:20am

And the Jar Jar thing too -- nice one, PDM and Sir Lichty. (I'm a bit slow on catching up to posts today.)

76 h-man  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 10:33:01am

Sharona - I love Indymedia. The "progressives" (our intellectual betters) are so devoid of humor, logic and introspection, i have to get my daily fix.

Right now i am carrying on a war with a "not anti semitic, anti zionism" idiot who claims 1) mossad was behind 9/11 and 2) israel started all (let me bold that) all of the israeli arab wars. It really is fun seeing them sputter and stammer.

BTW - the post i made of this great parody was deleted by the censors - c'est la vie, as the frogs croak.

77 E. Nough  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 10:33:09am

Doh, I meant "this solar system" in #71 of course... arrgh, nothing like mucking up a joke.

78 mommydoc  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 10:46:08am

E.Nough--nah, you can do no wrong. You are a genius.

79 T.L. James  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 11:34:47am

#71: And don't forget the common name for our sun: "Sol". ("Jewpiter" -- that's the third time in this thread I've had to stop and clean my keyboard.)

#56: Whirling dervishes are Sufis, whose faith has about as much in common with Wahhabism as Unitarianism or LDS have with Christian Identity.

Many spacecraft in Earth orbit are rotated as they go so as to provide passive thermal control -- a practice known as "barbecue mode", which keeps the smallest possible cross-section pointing at the Sun to reduce solar heating.

It's entirely possible that a similar practice could be used on the Islamic Space Station (ISS) to maintain a consistent and predictable Mecca-facing orientation as it orbits. The real confusion in this regard will emerge with the launch of rotating al Nie'el refugee camps -- it'll be nearly impossible to keep pace with Mecca when the spacecraft is rotating for gravity and orbiting the planet -- the two rotational elements will be unrelated and out of phase, leading to extremely complex and constantly-shifting vectors for proper worship orientation.

However, one possible solution to this problem is to shift the al Nie'el camps out of low Earth orbit, by placing them in a near-Earth solar orbit or at one of the many Earth-Moon or Earth-Sun libration points (which have been known to Islamic astronomers for many centuries). Moving the spacecraft out of LEO lengthens the orbital period, making the position of Mecca much easier to predict at any point during the notional on-board "day". Moving beyond Earth orbit solves the problem altogether -- as the Earth recedes to a distant point in space, all Earthward directions face Mecca equally, and one need only align one's prayer mat with the spacecraft's high-gain antenna to ensure proper orientation.

Clearly, the further away a refugee camp is, the better.

80 Geepers  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 11:44:49am

T.L. James

#56: Whirling dervishes are Sufis, whose faith has about as much in common with Wahhabism as Unitarianism or LDS have with Christian Identity.


That's what I love about this site, you can't even make a dumb joke without someone fact-checking the living crap out of your ass. Thanks T.

81 E. Nough  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 11:57:23am

mommydoc (#78), you're so wrong. Suffice it to say that my clue bat and I are well acquainted.

But thanks for the compliment all the same. =)

82 el Barto  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 1:27:04pm

TL What do you have aginst the LDS? Your post implies they are not Christian. The full name is The Church of Jesus Christ of Later Day Saints.
[Link: www.mormon.org...]

83 mommydoc  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 1:28:04pm

TL James, Geepers--LOL!

E.Nough--I guess you use your clue stick before you come here, then. I continue to bask in the glow of your written genius.

But don't worry, Geepers, you're still me dream man...

84 mommydoc  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 1:30:25pm

That would be my dream man.

El Barto: Christian Identity Movement.

85 el Barto  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 1:33:24pm

whaaap Sorry to be so hasty. Better check myself next time. Thanks mommydoc

86 mommydoc  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 1:51:01pm

I didn't really know either, but his analogy was a tip-off. (remember those from the SATs? Sufi is to Wahabi as LDS is to ___something really fundamentalist and evil) That and his capitalization of identity.

And it's those bad folks and their hijacking of the term Christian which makes many Jews, among others, uncomfortable when we see businesses, etc, emphasizing their Christianness. It's sometimes hard for us to tell the difference, although most mainstream Christian groups denounce the Identity movement, unlike our friends at CAIR vs. the wacko wahhabists.

87 orbital  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 1:55:51pm

Does that mean the Zionists are occupying my blog, Low Earth Orbit?

88 T.L. James  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 2:09:39pm

#82: I have absolutely nothing against LDS, I was making a sober comparison based on how others see it.

To clarify the comparison: the way the Sufis are viewed by other strains of Islam is a parallel to how LDS is viewed with suspicion or even hostility by some other Christian denominations.

To clarify the original argument: describing a Palestininan spacecraft's Mecca-tracking maneuvers with the use of a term applicable only to one, arguably-peaceful sect which is not (so far as I have ever heard) involved with the Stupidfada amounts to unfairly lumping that sect in with the bad guys. Which is to say, "Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater."

89 acuteanger  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 2:11:32pm

OH MY! Very funny, and yet not...

Here's the Saudi Prince who WENT UP WITH A FRENCHMAN too (no surprise there) to launch ARABSAT!

A PAYload specialist, now there's truth in labelling -- he probably PAID a LOAD to get thar...

90 Maui Girl  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 2:23:49pm

Thanks everyone. Not only did E. Nough's article get me laughing but the followup comments have me on the floor!

91 NTropy  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 2:55:56pm

It's rare that the written word can elicit a gut laugh from me like this did. As I read my smile widened til I was laughing. Then I looked back at "al Jee'ef" and totally lost it. I had roommates coming down the hall to check my sanity.

To both E.Nough and PDM - WELL DONE

92 Amy  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 3:31:37pm

E.Nough - You rule!! Haven't had this good a laugh for quite a while. "Cosmic adventurism"!! LOL!!!

The best part is that the attitude of "How dare those uppity J-E-W-S go up into our space?" is right on target. These miserable excuses for human beings believe that they do, in fact, own the earth and the heavens - the rest of us just haven't figured that out yet.

So, OK, it would be loverly to given the pallies their state in a space station somewhere off Venus. That way, they could do as they please without being capable of endangering the rest of humanity. A benign quarantine, as it were.

Meanwhile, one of my brothers asked the all-important question of whether the Judeonaut's knaidlach would float in zero gravity.

93 Kylaer  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 3:51:57pm

I don't understand why "Al Jee'ef" is funny. Is it a play-on-words for speakers of Hebrew? Yiddish? Arabic?

94 Geepers  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 4:01:42pm
95 NTropy  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 4:10:17pm

#93 Kylaer

Al Jee'ef = L G'F

96 Shifra  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 4:14:21pm

Kylaer go back to #22

"al-Jee'ef" == "the Onion"

Don't worry I am sure you were laughing too hard to read all the comments closely


PS and OT It has been snowing a lot in the eastern US could this be a plot to close the Federal government? Mossad? Zionists conspiracy? Maybe an islamofascist attempt to stop the coming war?

97 TrueBob  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 5:32:10pm


No Arabs In Star Trek (an old joke)

The Iraqi Ambassador to the UN has just finished giving a speech, and walks out into the lobby where he meets President Bush.

They shake hands and as they walk the Iraqi says, "You know, I have just one question about what I have seen in America."

President Bush says "Well your Excellency, anything I can do to help you, I will do."

The Iraqi whispers "My son watches this show 'Star Trek' and in it there are Russians, and Blacks, and Asians, but never any Arabs. He is very upset. He doesn't understand why there are never any Arabs in Star Trek."

President Bush laughs and leans toward the Iraqi, and whispers back, "It's because it takes place in the future..."

98 Dennis P.  Fri, Jan 17, 2003 9:21:58pm

#82 El Barto a bit off topic but most mainstream Christian groups; Roman Catholic, liturgical Protestants, evangelical Protestants and Orthodox Christians do not consider Mormons to be Christians.

http://www.irr.org/mit/neuhaus.html

99 Wunderkind54  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 12:50:34am

" We will strike the orbital Zionists ".

This is just too good!!!

Many thanks to whoever put this up. I got quite a chuckle from it!

100 Uzi  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 3:47:14am

This was a very humorous piece, but there's more to it than just a gag.

Back in September 1988, less than a year into the first "Intifada", Israel launched its first satellite, Ofek (Horizon) I, into low earth orbit, on a Shavit II Rocket. Both satellite and rocket were Israeli designed and built. At the time, observers noted that it was a huge blow to Palestinian morale, and it caused Palestinian society to experience a deep sense of depression, worse even than the killing of Abu Jihad, the number two man in the PLO, by Israeli commandos in Tunis. The Palestinians were devastated by the forced recognition of their own backwardness relative to Israel. Israel was launching satellites into space. The Palestinians had not progressed beyond bottle bombs.

And that, by the way, is the real story here. The "big picture" view of Israeli-Palestinian history shows the amazing advacement of Israeli society, the Israeli economy and Israeli science and technology despite nearly a century of Palestinian terrorism and attempts to destroy us. The Palestinians have been attacking Jews in Palestine/Israel since 1920 in both concentrated waves of mass violence and sporadic local terrorist attacks. In all cases these were extremely bothersome to the Jews of the time, but over the long term, failed to stop or seriously hinder the progress of the Zionist enterprise. In some cases Palestinian violence had the opposite effect of strengthening the Jews, by forcing them to make hard choices and ready themselves for conflict.

While the Palestinians were massacring Jews in 1920, 1921 and 1929, the Jews, under the Balfour Declaration,were establishing national governmental institutions and a national economy in Palestine that would guide the Jewish community here (the Yishuv) to independence.

While the Palestinians were waging the Arab Rebellion of 1936-1939, and killing several hundred Jews, hundreds of thousands of Jews, escaping from Hitler, joined the Jewish community of Palestine and the Jews began to establish and train strike forces within the Hagana militia (established in 1929), which would form the foundation of the IDF in 1948.

While the Palestinians, between November 30, 1947 and 14 May 1948, were attacking Jewish convoys and outlying settlements, blowing up bombs in Jewish cities, and laying seige to Jewish Jerusalem, the Jews were organizing, training and equipping an army that would be able to defend the new state from both the Palestinians and the regular armies of five Arab states that invaded following May 15th and Israeli independence. ( From the November 1947 level of 15,000 militia-men and women -only 5,000 or so of whom had had real military training- spread thin over the whole country and armed only with light arms, the Jews were able to expand and field a military of 115,000 trained soldiers, able to execute divisional size operations, including armour and artillery units, with an airforce that achieved air-superiority, by the war's end in early 1949.)

While the Palestinians were sending Fedayoun on cross border terrorist attacks, killing an average of maybe fifty Israelis per year between 1949 and 1967, Israel was bringing in Jews from all over the world, including Holocaust survivors and over a million Jews from Arab countries, more than tripling its Jewish population in about three years, establishing an independent democracy and building an economy that would growat an average rate of over 10% per year.

While the Palestinians were waging their first "Intifada", Israel was entering the space age with its first satellites, and laying the groundwork for a first-rate high-tech sector as the lynch-pin of its economy.

It's still to early to say what Israeli accomplishments will take place despite the second "Intifada", although at least on a symbolic level, Ilan Ramon's flight into space has some resonance. But, if history is our guide, I have every confidence that we will all look back on this difficult period as just one more bump in the long and overwhelmingly successful road of Zionist progress.

101 NTropy  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 4:21:22am

#101 Burt Ward - Proof that idiotarians and trolls have neither a sense of humor nor a brain in their heads.

102 E. Nough  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 6:15:23am
Al Jee'ef = L G'F

You got it, NTropy. :-)

103 NTropy  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 6:27:19am

Doggonit!! With Charles getting rid of the Burt Ward posts it looks like I'm talking to myself now. Oh well - a small price to pay for a troll free environment.

104 Geepers  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 6:34:01am

NTropy,

I’m pretty certain that if Burt were standing right in front of you, you’d still be talking to yourself.

105 TrueBob  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 6:50:20am

Re: #100 Excellent post by Uzi.

An old saying suggests there is a bit of truth in all humour...in this case there is a lot more than a little.

106 Bob  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 6:55:38am

Everyone seems to forget that they had a Saudi Prince in orbit in 1985.

Payload Specialist Astronaut Bio. But that fact doesn't fit in with the program of Zionist bashing now.

107 Geepers  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 7:30:00am

Bob,

Everyone seems to forget that they had a Saudi Prince in orbit in 1985.


We didn't forget It was mentioned and commented on two days ago. It was also mentioned above in #6, #19, #29 and #89. Do you even read the posts before spouting off ?

108 mommydoc  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 11:43:17am

Uzi (#100) Beautifully chronicled. You always have something great to add, and I am always interested in your perspective. Really tells the story of how pathetically they've handled their lives, while the Jews of Israel have gone about the business of creating a future.

Geepers (#104) LOL! I love how your mind works.

109 NTropy  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 12:14:39pm

#104 Geepers

*siiiggghhh* Unfortunate but so very true.

110 Bill  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 6:01:56pm

If Jews do go into space, what will they do at Passover when they have to leave the door open for Elijah?

111 Django  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 8:06:39pm

NC (message 53)

You have have missed this failed attempt at product placement in the first Lord of the Rings movie.

[Link: members.cox.net...]

112 mommydoc  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 10:36:08pm

Django--ROTFLMAOUIH!!!

Was that on SNL? It's beyond priceless!!!

113 Django  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 11:16:45pm

mommydoc (message 112)

> The Special Extended DVD set of The Fellowship of
> the Ring has a surprise bonus scene. It is an
> alternative version of the Council of Elrond scene,
> featuring two extra speaking roles. Frodo's
> reactions to the debate are especially noteworthy.
> Parental guidance suggested: some material may not
> be appropriate for pre-teenagers.
> 1. Insert the first disk into the player.
> 2. Choose the "Select a Scene" option.
> 3. Go to the last menu page and move the marker to
> scene 27, The Council of Elrond.
> 4. Press the Down button once. A golden ring will
> appear at the bottom of the screen.
> 5. Press the Enter button to play the scene.

114 Chana  Sun, Jan 19, 2003 2:39:48am

This is the Google cache of the NASA parody.

It took a while before Indymedia pulled it. But Google
has saved it.

[Link: 216.239.39.100...]

Google's cache is useful, isn't it?

This link is Indymedia - it may not work.

[Link: www.dc.indymedia.org...]

115 Geepers  Sun, Jan 19, 2003 6:02:15am

Thanks for the links Chana.

E. Nough, I didn’t see you’re by line on the Indy site. Lawsuits anyone?

116 Frank IMC  Sun, Jan 19, 2003 5:06:17pm

#110 - Too funny! And what will they do for Sukkot?

117 no way  Sun, Jan 19, 2003 9:26:44pm

if a palestinian blew himself up in outer space, would there be any sound ?

118 mommydoc  Mon, Jan 20, 2003 10:13:34pm

#117 And should anyone care? (Unless he caused collateral damage.)

119 Jonathan D. Safren  Thu, Jan 23, 2003 9:39:26pm

Did you know that Ha'aretz, the prestigious Israeli daily newspaper, took you seriously, and published a one-line summary of this item on its website as a new flash?
They never did retract, as far as I know. Probably redfaced.

120 zulubaby  Thu, Jan 23, 2003 9:46:41pm

Yeah, we know.

Ha'aretz, the prestigious Israeli daily newspaper

I don't know that I would go so far as to call Ha'aretz prestigious. Widely read maybe, but then so are the Los Angeles Times and the New York Times. Nothing prestigious about any of them as far as I'm concerned.

121 Jacks  Wed, Jan 29, 2003 12:45:46am

It will be the Palestinian children who go up in the rocket first, maybe it would be more constructive to train them now for intergalactic travel rather than ground fighters.

122 Rich  Sat, Feb 1, 2003 3:05:10pm

I hope someone is looking at the individuals who were involved -- in any way -- with the application of the heat ablatement tiles. Terrorism doesn't have to be in the form of missiles. It also could be in the form of contaminated (or defectively applied) adhesives.

123 MG  Sun, Feb 9, 2003 7:47:45pm

On a serious note: FYI There have been three prior American Jewish astronauts, one of them a woman who died on her second trip on the Challenger (I believe)-Judith Resnick. Another was (last name) Hoffman and I can't remember the 3rd name.
Col. Ramon was the FIRST ISRAELI...and there's so much symbolism around this, it boggles the mind: child of Holocaust survivors, blessing Jerusalem as he flew over, the shuttle coming down in Palestine--and he took out Saddam's Nuclear Reactor in 1981

124 Mike  Mon, Feb 10, 2003 4:22:50pm

Just clicked the link to the 'new' character for "The Return of the King" Lawsy, lawsy, lawsy.If this were ever to be 'made' public, ie., released as a real article, like Arab - Nasa article, who knows. Or did it already happen?
Can anyone tell me.
Please tell me that there were some gullible people out there who actually believe it. Please


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