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March of the Idiots

Sat, Jan 18, 2003 at 9:07:40 am PST

All around the world, idiots are doing what they do best—marching and screaming incoherent slogans. But once you get past the headline (Thousands Rally in DC!) you discover that the turnout seems to have been rather, uh ... pathetic.

Demonstrators staged peace rallies worldwide, events that typically drew hundreds or fewer. But 5,000 people marched through downtown Tokyo, carrying toy guns filled with flowers, wearing face masks that parodied President Bush and waving banners. The crowd, made up largely of students and laborers, was orderly.

About 60 protesters in Hong Kong shouted, "War, no," and in Pakistan, the familiar refrain "No blood for oil" rang out.

Several hundred people tried to march on the U.S. consulate in Lahore, but Pakistani authorities held the crowd back. Six were allowed to deliver an appeal to American officials to spare Iraqis from war.

More than 400 New Zealanders demonstrated in Christchurch. In Moscow, a few hundred people agitated outside the U.S. Embassy in a protest organized by a branch of the Communist Party. People turned their backs to the building, and signs called the United States a "Global Cannibal."

Even the Syrians demonstrated solidarity with their useful idiot cousins in the US, although their message was a bit more direct.

In the Syrian capital, Damascus, thousands marched with a message that was not all about peace. Many cried, "Our beloved Saddam, strike Tel Aviv," in celebration of Iraq's missile thrusts against Israel during the 1991 Gulf War and in hope Saddam would strike again. In the Gaza Strip, Palestinians rallied under the same slogan.

Nice crowd the anti-war left hangs out with.

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1 Abu Baboon  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 7:11:22am

FIRST!

I hate appeaseniks

2 Alfred E. Neuman  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 7:18:17am

Hey, they may be scumbags, but they're morally superior! Right?

3 Eric  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 7:19:05am

Some of them aren't stupid... just confused.

But some of them ARE stupid.

Secundus

4 Montaigne's Cat  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 7:21:16am

"All we are saying
is give appeasement a chance."

5 Infidel  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 7:23:22am

Idiotarians of the world Unite! Give the rest of us a single target.

6 centaur  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 7:30:38am

Do these people have any clue? My g-d, talk about self-delusion. They are in effect lending support to the continued terror and oppression and torture of an entire nation. What part of "the 100,000 gassed Kurds were just practice" don't they understand. Do they go completely deaf and dumb (or are they already there) when Iraqi dissidents and Kurds and Shiites tell horrific tales of life under Hussein? I want to see these clowns marching against the slave/death camps in N. Korea. I want to see them marching in solidarity with Iranian students (real protesters) against theocratic fascism in that country. I want to see them march against the sharia-imposed slavery and real genocide in Sudan. But they won't; it's not fashionable. And they call themselves liberal? No. I am a liberal, and these people make me sick.
"[War is evil; but sometimes it is the lesser evil]" - Orwell.

7 regimes of the world unite  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 7:34:26am

We need a regime change too. With a dictatorship, everyone would be prevented from having marches of any kind. Any protesters would be executed on the spot, like in Tien An Men. They'd learn to respect the government then!

8 Rich N.  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 7:36:17am

Ya know, they may be deluded peaceniks, but they are our deluded peaceniks. Actually, as I watched the ralley I was struck by several things:
1. There was no reasoned opposition to the impending war presented.
2. The sum total of their protest did not get beyond the standard "War for Oil" sloganeering.
3. Anyone who did get beyond the sloganeering managed to wrap into their speeches every special interest group grievance that we have heard the left proclaim since at least Nov. 2000. thus the totality of thier speech has very little to do with the war.
4. I actully felt more pride in being an American as a result of the protest. It was glaringly obvious that the fact that these protesters were able to publically oppose their government's policy underscored the very right the Iraqis themselves so desperately desire. Yes, the war is about safeguarding the U.S. and our allies but the lasting result will be a democratic Iraq that will allow Iraqis to stage their own protests against their own government's policies.

I guess that the protestors prefer to see people opressed for the sake of peace rather than see people liberated and free to determine their own destiny. Now that is depressing...

9 centaur  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 7:37:02am

Dear "peace protester": Sudetenland. Point to it on the map. No, the other map. Yes, Europe. No, that's not Europe. Yes, Italy looks like a big boot surrounded by lots of water...

10 Mike Silverman  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 7:37:34am

The peace protests make me proud to be an American. We have so much freedomof speech that even idiots get to march and yell and unlike in Iraq, our police don't run in and bust heads and "disappear" the protesters.

11 Geepers  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 7:38:42am

March of The Idiots? Screaming incoherent Slogans? Why I remember thinking the same thing just this morning.

I know, shameless self promotion, but: GMTA.

12 Raj Against The Machine  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 7:39:55am

With apologies to Montaigne's Cat...

"All we are saying...
is give police a chance..." (originally inspired by Tim Blair)

13 QueenEsther  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 7:48:00am

It makes me sick how these idiots think that they alone own Dr. King's message of peace. Dr. King knew that crying "peace" is not the same as standing up for what is right.

I've sited this acceptance speech by Nobel Prize winner Elie Wiesel before, but it merits being repeated:

We must take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented. Sometimes we must interfere. When human lives are endangered, when human dignity is in jeopardy, national borders and sensitivities become irrelevant. Wherever men and women are persecuted because of their race, religion, or political views, that place must — at that moment — become the center of the universe.

A Real Peace Speech

14 Ariel  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 7:51:48am

OK, totally OT, but since Maine's Michael got a hat tip, I'm hoping that I'll be the next. Look at this article:

Not a day goes by that I don’t read a headline stating that a rabbi’s car was set on fire, or that yeshiva children have been beaten on the way to school. Some are so blatantly anti-Semitic that I can only shake my head in wonderment at their rabid comments. The latest is how the French are now refusing to recognize wedding ceremonies, including those performed in pre-1967 Israel, where the presiding rabbi just happens to be a resident of Judea, Samaria and Gaza. The French Consulate in Jerusalem has refused certificates of marriage to those French who want to marry an Israeli. A French woman who had converted recently had her marriage turned down for recognition by the Consulate and was told that the French Government does not recognize it because the marriage certificate bared the signature and heading of a rabbi from Gush Etzion, which they believe to be ‘occupied territory.’ I wonder if it would have been okay for them had the wedding party worn yellow stars during the ceremony? How ludicrous that it should matter where the rabbi who oversaw the ceremony lives. Maybe if the bride wore a burqa, the French Consulate might have been satisfied. Funny, does it bother them to recognize marriages performed by Syrian imams in ‘occupied Lebanon? Or, how about Moroccan imams or tribal witchdoctors in ‘occupied Sahara’? Iraqi imams are going strong in ‘occupied Kurdistan.’ And what about all those French priests from occupied Euskadi (homeland of the Basques)? Ah, but the rabbis are Jewish and we know how the French feel about that “sh***y little country,” as described by the French Ambassador to England.
15 Lynn B.  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 7:52:10am

Tikkun made sure to recruit some Jews (oh, sorry, I meant "members of the Tikkun Community" -- they don't discriminate). But even they have a problem with the organizers of this circus.

Though many members of the Tikkun Community are participating in the demonstrations against Bush's war in Iraq, for reasons articulated in the editorials and articles in Tikkun opposing the war, many are doing so with some degree of concern. The group that sponsored this event, A.N.S.W.E.R., has been hostile to Israel and used these demonstrations to mis-educate about the complexities of the Israeli/Palestinian struggle.

Really??? Ya think?? There's more if you've got the stomach.

16 E. Brown  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 8:05:14am

My friend Bill Ramey points out the stupid dishonesty of the new "daisy bomb" idiotarian ad here:


[Link: saturninretrograde.blogspot.com...]

17 ploome  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 8:10:19am

they are ranting about the terrorism of unemployment...

oy

18 centaur  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 8:10:27am

Hi Lynn!
Thanks for the link... the true face of the anti-war movement. Not surprising at all.

19 Forkum  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 8:10:31am

These same A.N.S.W.E.R. people were protesting the possible war in Afghanistan in late September 2001 while the WTC ruins were still smoldering.

20 nomad33  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 8:10:51am

After people of the west bank shouted:
"Our beloved Saddam, strike Tel Aviv,"

Scuds started falling on the West Bank.

Those moments were priceless!

21 Donna V.  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 8:14:10am
"Bush has said that he intends to launch a pre-emptive war, and now he's facing the most formidable obstacle, which is a pre-emptive anti-war movement," Mara Verheyden-Hilliard, from Partnership for Civil Justice, said Friday.

Most formidable obstacle? Sure, Dubya is just quaking in his cowboy boots at the thought of (gasp!) thousands of thug-lovers on the Mall (out of 280 million Americans) whining and bitching away. Jeez, this really puts a crimp in his plans!

While the totalitarian toddlers are out in the cold pitching a hissy fit, the real grown-ups in D.C. are sitting around conference tables dealing with the real world and not giving the appeasement brats a second thought.

There is an upside to this. All those dimbulbs who traveled to DC from across the country because they somehow thought the government would pay more attention to them if they froze their asses off at the Navy Yard rather than in Madison or Cambridge are giving a little boast to the economy, aren't they? Plane tickets purchased, gas pumped for the Magical Mystery Tour buses, hotel rooms booked, and Nora's (excellent) organic restaurant packed with the well-heeled appeaseniks. Idiotarians giving a shot in the arm to detestable American capitalism!

22 Ranbutan  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 8:53:25am

WANNA LEARN MORE ABOUT THE GROUPS BEHIND THE " Not in Our Name PEACE MOVEMENT"???

Michelle Goldberg had a very nice piece in Salon last October. As a Lefty, Michelle did not take too kindly to the radical organizations that are the ones pulling the strings on the No War in Iraq for Any Reason Folks.

Same assholes pushing the Jenin Massacre, the people behind Free Mumia, Free Slobodan, Free the Al Qaeda Detainees. Get out of Vieques. People that support N Korea, Shining Path Maoists, Mugabe, call Israel the Great Terrorist State, and the orginators of the "It's all about Oil" conspiracy theories.

The link I enclose has live links so you can visit the NotInOurName site, the Revolutionary Communist Party that founded NION, Ramsey Clark's IAM...which extolls Kim Jung Il as a great Leader. And, Goldberg's own October analysis and editorializing is none to shabby in itself. On the NION net site, you can also thrill to the usual celebrity Lefty signatures.

Browse and Boil, folks!

View From the Left: Peace Kooks - by Michelle Goldberg,Salon.com

In my area, we just had a newspaper ad signed by both the usual suspects (the old Lefty 'Nam Rejects, anti-globalization anarchists, and the old pacifist crowd that wailed about going after Al QAeda when it was all about secret oil pipelines and killing innocent Afghani babies). On top of the usual suspects though, they got a ton of "Peace, not War" dupes to sign....about 450 sigs in a region of 30,000 people.

Not a bad turnout, but I will be writing a "these are just Saddam's useful idiots" letter, mentioning they are signing on in support of the Revolutionary Communist Party, throwing Orwell's notation that pacifists in WWII UK were objectively pro-Nazi. And, Powell has just said to the Germans to "get ready" because the US will present compelling evidence of Iraqi WMD before the end of the month.

23 Henry S.  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 9:07:16am

How about the Pals, marching in the thousands to support Saddam? My girlfriend is Chinese (born and raised on the mainland) and she laughs hysterically at the Pals who continue, time-after-time-after-time, to side with the inevitable losers. Have these idiots no sense of realpolitik?

24 Damian P.  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 9:32:23am

I drove by about 40 marchers here in Corner Brook, Newfoundland earlier this afternoon. (I didn't run any of them over, and I congratulate myself on my restraint.) One woman was carrying a sign reading, "War For Oil - Is Canada's Water Next?"

Morons.

25 Claudia  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 10:06:24am

#8 Rich & # 10 Mike,

I know what you mean about feeling proud that Americans can can demonstrate... even the ones I think are really dense (I particularly don't like the parents of terror victims holding up their child's picture with the words NOT IN MY DAUGHTER'S NAME. Some of these even went to Iraq to state the same).

When I saw the demonstations in Syria and Pakistan, I felt sorry for those people because they are mere tools. No one there would dare demonstrate an opposing view.

C.

26 J.O'T  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 10:30:44am

Most of these fools will bail on this "peace" movement once the whole truth comes out about Saddam. (I can't imagine what more they need to hear, but...)

The Communist Party USA was once a fairly sizable movement until the disgusting truth about the USSR came out - and the people who actually believed in peace and equality (more-or-less) ditched the Party fast. (And became Liberal-Democrats).

There's going to be a lot of denial and "I always supported our Troops" CYA stuff from these sad sacks.

The hardcore Commies and Anarchsist will stick it out as long as they are unwilling to participate in mental health counseling.

27 Saeel  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 11:37:16am

C'mon guys... Not all of these protesters are stupid retards.

Some of them are stupid and others, retarded.

28 dennisw  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 11:45:56am

Great photos of the counter-demonstration in Washington DC

#1

#2

#3

29 Brian Jones  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 12:31:03pm

Anybody care to watch the commentary from the idiotarians starting tomorrow, claiming that the lack of reporting from this obvious non-event was due to a coverup by Bush's media's lapdogs?

30 Elizabeth  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 12:34:38pm

As a companion piece to Ranbutan's Michelle Goldberg piece "View From the Left: Peace Kooks" is "Has Anti-War Movement Been Hi-jacked?":

[Link: www.worldnetdaily.com...]

According to this article many of the 'usual suspects' from the Peoples Worker Party and other communist party affiliates are the true backbone and driving force guiding the "useful idiots" who turned up for the peace rallies today. Very eye-opening.

OT, slightly, but has anyone notice that Susan Sarandon has Bette Davis eyes?

31 Queasy  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 12:35:35pm

I'm so glad I was in DC last weekend, and not this one.

And from the Telegraph in London, the following:

During the protest two people dressed up as a pantomime horse, one donning the mask of US President George W Bush. On the rear end of the black-and-white steed, Tony Blair's face was pinned next to the tail. Posing for photographers, the Bush character thwacked Mr Blair's face with a bright red fly swat.

Enter Heather Hunt, 56, from Sheffield who had posed as Mr Bush said she felt it was very important to have come and protested against the possible war.

Some people are so stupid, it's scary.

32 NTropy  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 1:02:12pm

Does it bother anybody else to see that Shakedown Jesse "I've never seen situation in which the race card couldn't be played for my personal benefit" Jackson and Al "Jew baiter is my middle name" Sharpton are talking heads for this convocation?

And again, just as Gen-X, heavily laced with those stuck in the 1960's, clamoured for (and got) their own Woodstock, are we seeing the same group now clamouring for their own anti-war movement? If so, it will be curious to see if it winds up the same way Woodstock 1999 did.

33 jriggeri  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 1:06:19pm

Unfortunately, I had to take the metro through Washington, DC today and got caught up in a train packed with these useful idiots. From sample standing on the platform at Gallery Place station I'd say:

60% were over the age of 60
40% were under the age of 20
100% were white
0 % were from the oppressed classes
100 % came from the affluent and liberal suburbs surrounding DC, mostly to the north
80 % were women or girls
Many wore vegan stickers
Some were sipping Starbucks coffee
One angered me. She was wearing a yellow arm band with the crescent and moon symbol of Islam on it. I asked her why she was wearing a yellow arm band and she told me that it symbolized the persecution of muslims in the United States. "But the yellow was used for Jews during WWII," I said. "Exactly, the same thing.." It was surreal.

These people are terribly deluded, awful, useless....oh you fill in a few of your own

34 Ranbutan  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 1:16:40pm

Saddam LOVED the demonstrations and said they were a big encouragement:

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - President Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) hailed worldwide anti-war demonstrations Saturday and said the protests showed that Iraq had international support for standing up to the United States.

Saddam ordered his top officers to look after their soldiers to gain their confidence and make sure they were well-fed and kept warm as they prepared to sacrifice their blood to defend Iraq.

Tens of thousands of people took part in protests across the globe Saturday to demand that Washington abandon likely plans to invade Iraq over alleged weapons of mass destruction.

"They are supporting you because they know that evildoers target Iraq to silence any dissenting voice to their evil and destructive policies," Saddam told senior military officers and his son Qusay, the commander of the elite Republican Guards.

Well done to the Commies and radicals! Excellent 5th column effort. While it is true that everyone opposed to War can and should protest...theose who do so out of an idealogy that Iraq should be immune from Security Council Resolutions, able to arm with WMD freely, and that their own Country of America is the true evil afoot do in fact give aid and comfort to our enemies.

35 NTropy  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 1:30:24pm

#33 jriggeri

One angered me. She was wearing a yellow arm band with the crescent and moon symbol of Islam on it. I asked her why she was wearing a yellow arm band and she told me that it symbolized the persecution of muslims in the United States. "But the yellow was used for Jews during WWII," I said. "Exactly, the same thing.." It was surreal.

Although I rarely do it, that response would have elicited a simple "You're an idiot!" from me. Not much but such a blatant disregard for history doesn't warrant anything further and is quite satisfying.

36 Ranbutan  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 1:38:07pm

#30 Elizabeth. Good companion piece to the Goldberg article showing more slime trails. I hope LGF readers will pass this on or even write their local papers, because there has been Nada about the radicals behind "Not in my Name".

Watching NBC News made me nauseous..it was 100% positive of the anti-War "Enlightened People of Conscience"...that the glory days of people power and protests are back......and not a word of the assholes behind the scenes who organize and control the demonstrators.

Sarandon HAS Betty Davis eyes. And, she was HOT in earlier movies like Rocky Horror Picture Show, Pretty Baby. Then again, Jane Fonda was hot in Barbarella, and I doubt any 40+ gals looked as good as Hanoi Jane in a bikini in the movie "On Golden Pond".

37 Donna V.  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 1:38:26pm

So Sadaam loved the demonstrations, did he? You know, I'm starting to think the "useful idiots" are not just useful to the other side - they might be letting Sadaam lower his guard a little. He has no real understanding of how democracy works and surrounds himself with ass-kissers. So when he sees Idiots of the World United, does he know (and does anyone tell him?) that these stinko pinkos are tolerated but have no influence on national policy? For all I know, he might get the idea that the US is teetering on the edge of an anti-Bush, anti-war revolution right now and that he's actually a massively admired character over here. Dictators always develop delusions - who's going to stand up and say to him, "Er, I think you might be wrong about that."


So in that sense, the UN and the left are actually doing the US a favor. Ironic, ain't it?

38 Brenda  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 2:23:57pm

For more C-SPAN fun, the Pakistani ambassador will be on Washington Journal tomorrow morning. The Paks have been screaming bloody murder that their nationals here illegally are required to leave. Imagine that -- people being held accountable to obey immigration U.S. law during a time of war...

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

But the feeling in Islamabad is that Pakistan has been so helpful in the war against terrorism that Paks should be cut major slack in the immigration department. "Pakistan cannot be equated with other countries, that's what we're telling the US," said Foreign Minister Kasuri.

Nope, no Pakistani terrorists. Just ask Danny Pearl.

39 Frank IMC  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 7:46:58pm

#20 - Praying for a wayward Scud to accidentally clear the rubbish off the Temple Mount.

#33 - You have my sympathy. I'm glad I wasn't on the Red Line today.

40 Amos  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 8:03:24pm

I saw on TV some anti-war pro-saddam demonstrations. Funniest one was in Russia, I think, where demonstrators carried three large photos: saddam, arafat and stalin. Likening saddam to father of modern terrorism arafat, and to history's greatest dictator and mass murderer stalin? I thought those people were for saddam!

41 zulubaby  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 8:18:04pm

jriggeri (#33)

One angered me. She was wearing a yellow arm band with the crescent and moon symbol of Islam on it. I asked her why she was wearing a yellow arm band and she told me that it symbolized the persecution of muslims in the United States. "But the yellow was used for Jews during WWII," I said. "Exactly, the same thing.." It was surreal.

I want to throw up. My G-d, that is repulsive. "Exactly, the same thing...". Stupid bitch.

42 zulubaby  Sat, Jan 18, 2003 8:26:44pm

Massive surprise.

Anti-war rallies provide a platform for anti-Israel views

Among the dozens of anti-war rallies that took place around the world on Saturday to protest a possible US strike against Iraq, demonstrators took the opportunity to criticize Israel and its leaders as well.
In a demonstration in Paris organized by several far-left groups, 6,000 protestors booed both US President George Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, according to reports on Israel Radio.
In Washington, D.C., where 30,000 people marched through the streets of the US capital, "Free Palestine" was one of the other causes taken up by some of the demonstrators.

Fucking assholes. Any opportunity to bash the Jews. As much as the anti-Semites hate the Jews, I hate them ever more. Dregs of society.

(If someone's already posted this, I apologize.)

43 Martin Lindeskog  Sun, Jan 19, 2003 2:53:03pm

Read about what happened in Gothenburg, Sweden, in my post, THE ANTI-WAR MARCH DESTROYED THE PEACE...

44 Andrew Blackburn  Sun, Jan 19, 2003 10:17:05pm
And again, just as Gen-X, heavily laced with those stuck in the 1960's, clamoured for (and got) their own Woodstock, are we seeing the same group now clamouring for their own anti-war movement? If so, it will be curious to see if it winds up the same way Woodstock 1999 did.

Strangely enough, I actually lived in an apartment complex just outside the gates of the former Griffiss Air Force Base in Rome NY (Mohawk Garden apartments, for those familiar with the area) at the time of Woodstock '99. I had the dubious fortune of being at the Red Hot Chili Peppers performance, and I got to see the "riot" first-hand.

As a result, all I can muster when there's news of another riot after a football game or basketball championship is a yawn. I've seen it, firsthand, and wasn't impressed. Nothing like thousands of kids living on weath they didn't earn.

The thing that was sad about Woodstock '99, from my standpoint, was that the local businesses who were supposed to cash in on the event, didn't. Everything else - well - the promoters got what they asked for.


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