Charles,

I went there, just to see what Steven is talking about, and I don't think you are missing something by not reading his blog.

The guy has a post on his site praising someone's comparison between Israel and Nazi Germany. You must be doing something right, Charles, if you're raising his hackles.

I think you're Disease. He's the smelliest one.

Sawicky seems to harp rather unhealthily on the fact that he's not as widely read as Instapundit. At least he used to. Now he seems to be harping on the fact that he's not as widely read as Instapundit, LGF, USS Clueless and Andrew Sullivan.

Maybe he could get one of those liberal talk radio shows and spend it obsessing about Rush's ratings instead.

Charles can't be Pestilence because I already claimed it.

Four Horsemen of the Ablogalypse!

I like it!

God! Liberals never cease to amaze me at their stupidity and ignorance. How is it that these people function? How do they get by in life? I don't get it. These people would rather Saddam stay in power and let a terror cell flourish in Baghdad, get some nasty weapons and kill Americans in the process. Incredible! I used to be a liberal, that is of course until September 11th 2001. Wake UP PEOPLE.

PEOPLE WANT TO KILL YOU!!!!!!!!!!

HELLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

What is it going to take to wake you people up? I mean really. I used to work in an art gallery in NYC. (and yes I am an artist) Everyone in the art world is out of their minds. I mean this kind of behaviour is to be expected to a certain extent, but it is so out of hand in NYC. I had the only anti-anti war art show in NYC for the years of 2001-2003.

My message for all artists out there...put down your book on communism, freud, CHOMSKY!!!, SAID, and others and take a good hard look at what is happening around the world.

The Islamofacist movement is on the rise. The people want to kill you. They do not care if you are white, black, yellow, blue, green whatever! They don't care if you are Christian, Hindu, or Jewish. Well if you are Jewish thats a bonus KILL to them.

I am Jewish, yet I live in a mostly Arab / Muslim neighborhood in America. i get along with my Arab neighbors. i speak Arabic to them and we talk about the Middle East and such. They even ask me how to speak proper English. They want to live the American Dream just like all of us. They are hard working decent human beings that know the TRUE VALUE OF FREEDOM. They respect me and I respect them.

There is a difference between these people and the people we need to get before they get to our us or even worse, our KIDS.

What is it going to take for you people? I mean really???
Do you need another September 11th? Do you really need the UN which has proven itself as impotent and useless as a skateboard in the snow?

Please write me back with something I can respond to. Oh and please don't go off on the typical Bush this and Bush that routine. Bush didn't start this...SADDAM DID...ok?

Where were you liberals when ex-president Clinton bombed Kosovo??? Innocent people died. i didn't see any demonstrations against Clinton. Why is that? Please tell me I would love to know what you people were doing.

Then he's definitely Famine. He's skeletal and emaciated because he sits at his terminal and blogs all day and night.
Famine smells kinda bad too.

Who's the stinker and why is he here?

I used to read his blog: Maxspeak: You listen! But I've stopped listening.

His sniping at Glenn Reynolds (major case of clinical blog-envy) is annoying and unenlightening. His leftist perspective on economics would be more interesting if it weren't so obvious that he swallows almost every ideological bowling ball that the Leftniks come up with.

Including Charles Rangel's thoroughly idiotic and dishonest proposal to reinstate the draft. There's an idiotarian litmus test for you.

Are you talking about me, Zulu?
If so: I'm here because I read this blog about 10 times a day.
And I'm making stinky comments because it's fun.

Charles,

Den Beste has written about this a few times, but I can't recall if you have: How do you take being called a right-wing loony, etc., when you obviously aren't?

Congratulations, Charles, and congratulations to the other three horsemen as well. There's just something so... satisfying about winding up an idiot like Sawicky so much that he starts foaming at the mouth. You four are an inspiration to us all.

Too bad there aren't any weasel-riders of the Apocalypse, or Sawicky, Atrios, Hesiod, and Indymedia would surely be on the short list.

Sawicky is jealous of the LGF tee shirts, heh heh.

Is Glenn going to start posting in all caps?

Actually, the four of you should meet in a bar somewhere and go on a Harley-riding tour of the country.

Maybe the idiotarians need some horsemen of their own. How about Envy, Irrationality, Irrelevance, and Boredom?

I'd suggest Humorlessness, but I think the Objectivists already got that one.

16 - Glen, surely you're forgetting Naivety.

Hah!

The Weasel-Riders of the Apocalypse!

Sophistry, Petulance, Derision, and Angst!

Or Derision is too neutral. How about Bloviation?

Or for a pun on Pestilence, Famine, War and Death, how about:
Petulance, Foamin' (at the mouth), Waaah! and Dreck!

Are you talking about me, Zulu?

Yes Joe Geoghegan, I am talking about you. (Dreck! is good. I like it).

Max is part of a group of antiwar bloggers called Stand Down. If you want to find out what the idiotic left is thinking, read their comment threads. It's pretty sad and awful.

On the other hand, if you want to see what mature adult antiwar leftists are thinking, go to Dissent. It is telling that the Stand Down types are just as scornful of Todd Gitlin and Michael Walzer as they are of Glenn, Andrew, and Charles. They want to be rebellious hip dudes, and anyone who sounds too sober and reflective is seen as parental and must be ridiculed.

Well, Charles, Mad Max put you in with very good company. It's a great thing to be mentioned in the same breath with Den Beste, Sullivan, and Reynolds (and you are certainly in their league).

Andrew B (7): I live in a very leftist/liberal part of town too and I certainly know how you feel - surrounded by a sea of lefty stupidity. Imagine if the Internet and blogs like LGF didn't exist. We'd all be reduced to cursing the Nightly News and our local rags (and my pathetic local daily, like most American papers, simply parrots the NYT) in the privacy of our living room.

Forget the red state/blue state stuff - there are anti-idiotarians everywhere, even in Manhattan and Berkeley - that's something I found out from reading blogs. We may not march and shout out stupid slogans, but common sense has not yet entirely disappeared from the earth.

Stratfor digs up the dirt on Chirac and Saddam, as reported by Bill Herbert. I assume Bill didn't give the original link because it's subscription-only, but he quotes huge chunks, for example:

. . . Chirac and Hussein formed what Chirac called a close personal relationship. As the New York Times put it in a 1986 report about Chirac's attempt to return to the premiership, the French official "has said many times that he is a personal friend of Saddam Hussein of Iraq." In 1987, the Manchester
Guardian Weekly quoted Chirac as saying that he was "truly fascinated by Saddam Hussein since 1974." Whatever personal chemistry there might have been between the two leaders obviously remained in place a decade later, and clearly was not simply linked to the deals of 1974-75. Politicians and businessmen move on; they don't linger the way Chirac did.

Heh, so who's taking up the photoshop job of our four horsemen??

Way off-topic but too strange to pass up: Just look for yourselves.

#12, Addison,
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    song=The Four Horsemen
    artist=Metallica
    lyrics=Lyrics
/]
What you have to understand is the political worldview that the radical Left-of-Lenin moonbats are working from. They think that Leon Trotsky is a right-wing reactionary because he condemned Stalin's brutality (for which insult Stalin, naturally, had him assassinated. See this for a brief history of Trotsky). In that spectrum Charles is right-wing, though not a loony :-)

And Charles is, of course, War (the coolest of the Four Horsemen :-). The rest of us LGF'ers are Legion "...for there are so many of (sic)me."

[Demonic cackling]

i never comment, but thank god for #7.
another artist feels the same way!

With apologies to Grantland Rice:

Outlined against a blue-grey October sky, the Four Horsemen rode again. In dramatic lore they are known as famine, pestilence, destruction and death. These are only aliases. Their real names are: Reynolds, Sullivan, Johnson and Den Beste.

If anyone wants to do the Photoshop, click here and scroll down to the bottom of the page for the photo.

Andrew B 2/22/2003 02:50PM PST:

God! Liberals never cease to amaze me at their stupidity and ignorance....

I share your bafflement, Andrew. I once thought I understood liberalism, even sometimes sympathizing with it.

Now I don't understand it anymore. It's gone totally, utterly bonkers.

#26...strange website, indeed.

I'm having a flashback to band camp: three second trumpets, on their own known as the Three Stooges, became the Four Horsemen when joined by one of the snares. They even wrote War, Famine, Pestilence and Death on their competition uniform tshirts (the band has a habit of writing nicknames or significant phrases above the design on the back of the shirt, and then friends sign the rest). Maybe we could do that with the LFG tshirts.

#23 Donna V:

We may not march and shout out stupid slogans, but common sense has not yet entirely disappeared from the earth.

To paraphrase the inimitable PJ O'Rourke, we don't march because we don't have time. We have jobs.

Never "letta"s forget
Thank #7

TO: Charles, et. al.
RE: The Riders

"I got dibs on "Plague". Charles gets to be "Famine" and Andrew can be "War". The BlogFather himself, naturally, is "Death"." -- Steven den Beste

Who gets to be "Hades", who is following "Death".

I nominate Bill at Eject! Eject! Eject!

RIDE ON!!!!

The so-called (il)liberals tremble at the thundering hooves.

Keep up the good work...

...we're all excited.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. I nominate Hesiod as the third "Abomination that maketh desolation".

Shirts, we need shirts!

With both pictures.

i'll tell ya what's wrong with the liberals. (i was an anti-Vietnam War organizer in the 70's and i know the inside scoop)

the old liberals (people in their 50's and beyond, my age) have replaced blind religion with blind politics. like some old people who don't grow, they are living in the past. they read and listen to only opinions that support their political beliefs. in the 60's religion and a "nuclear family was regarded as oppresive and stunts one's personnal growth. now the old liberals are the oppressors with their stunted intellectual growth.

the young liberals are looking for identity. that's why the young liberals march against the war. they are trying to identify themselves with the early counter culture, the early freethinking hippy liberals. Sorry, young ones. that was 30 years ago. it's a new day. Woodstock 4? how sad. the original Woodstock was an attempt by the boomer generation to define themselves because the political and military leadership of the U.S. at that time (30 years ago) was inept and played political games on the battlefields in Nam which got alot of us young americans killed and maimed. Woodstock 4, bought to you by Coca Cola and Nike. the younger liberals of today have to find their own identity the old fashioned-way. earn it. use your brain. you don't get to be hip and smart by mimicking people in the past.

end of today's wisdom...........

Does this mean that I can finally be an evil minion?

Wow, that's really sad. I mean, first of all, it's an effing bad analogy, and then it's an effing bad word. "Ablogalpyse?" Puh-leeze.

And I think someone like Andrea Harris or Michele of A Small Victory absolutely deserves to be part of the four. This is an extremely sexist grouping, as has been mentioned already.

Of course, my guess is that Andrea and Michele would, er, fight to the death to be death.

Gee, if I didn't know any better, I'd say Sawicky was trolling for hits.

Oh, wait. I do know better. I'll pass on the link in my blog.

I love that Sean Kirby graphic at USS Clueless.

And all four of the Horsemen are on my blogroll.

Max Sawicky isn't.

Bring on the Ablogalypse!

Yehudit (#24): Well, the UK has a "special relationship" with the USA. Clearly France needs one with Iraq, Syria, Zimbabwe...

As for the actual topic here, it's not like we needed any more proof of the "antiwar" left's irremediable dependence on jealous resentment. But funny evidence anyway.

I really hope the Four Horsemen of the Ablogalypse are not offended by this. I guess Charles can delete my post or ask me to take it down if it is a problem. (cheap and choppy too... sorry)

TO: All
RE: Shirts???!?!

"Shirts, we need shirts!

With both pictures." -- Sandy P

We don need no steeenking shirts.

We need a cartoon from Cox and Forkum!!!!!!!

With the faces of our heros charging down upon the fleeing idiotarians.

THAT could go on shirts.

Regards,

Chuck(le)

TO: Meryl Yourish
RE: Bad Analogy

"... it's an effing bad analogy, and then it's an effing bad word. "Ablogalpyse." -- Meryl Yourish

I disagree.

First off, in my limited understanding, the four horsemen of the apocolypse are not necessarily evil; they are forces of nature.

The bloggers aforementioned are equally 'forces of nature'. The literal nature of the internet; allowing intelligent, cogent people to express themselves without having to go through the filtering system of "letters to the editor" at some so-called 'major media' outlet.

And they ARE, indeed, 'apocolyptic' in the eyes of those so-called 'major media' outlets. They WILL bring about, literally, famine, pestilence, war and death, to those same. And the people like 'mad Max' are beginning to recognize it....

...albeit, it was NOT a good idea to come up with the term "Ablogalpyse". It's catching on like wildfire. Like "Axis of Weasel".

And I say, "RIDE ON! Bros!"

Regards,

Chuck(le)

P.S. As General Forrest (CSA) would say, "Keep up the fear!"

Okay, the logo is kind of cool, but why is Charles "Famine"? Is it the pictures of the protein-starved "anti-war" protestors? And if Glenn Reynolds is "Death", why is Michael Bellesiles still alive? But I guess Sean Kirby had to work with the material he was given.

I'm beginning to suspect that Max's use of metaphor is something less than laser-like.

Slightly OT, but in Good Omens by Neil Gaiman and Terry Pratchett the horsemen were War, Death, Famine, and Pollution (Pestilence having been side-lined by antibiotics). All in all, a very funny book.

#47,
read #15. Anyway, you read the right stuff.

#15, glad to see a fellow Pratchettian - or are you a Gaiman man? In that case, Lucifer is the coolest of the lot. Na, you're a Pratchettian - the caps remark shows it.
Anyways, Reynolds sure takes after the Gaiman look there.

All others, you really should read Good Omens, like A Jackson recommends (also, almost any other Pratchett Discworld book). It'll be hours of fun, trust me.

P.S. Charles, I thought you'd take War over Famine... but I don't read Sullivan much, so I can't tell who is better qualified for the job. Heh heh.

Ablogalypse?

--I have an earache.

On Topic: Where's War?

From Max's "piece":

I think my arguments are so good that they will prosper in a rational debate.

!!!

I think a better comparison would've been with the Old Ones. Laurence Simon is obviously Hastur the Unspeakable.

And who's the big C?

I made this for the women. We don't need no steenkin' horses... ;)

Can I be Dagon? Or Nyarlathotep? Puhleeeeese!

Charles is Cthulhu. Who else could it be? And Glenn Reynolds is Yog-Sothoth! Now, who is Nyarlathotep...

It could be Sam. You tell us...

TO: Andrea Harris
RE: Oh God!!!

"I made this for the women....;)" -- Andrea Harris

Just what we needed around here...

...Harpies!

Regards,

Chuck(le)

P.S. But it has 'class'.

To #28, #30, and #34...

I don't get it. I really don't. What is wrong with these people. They trust Saddam more than Bush. You know what I think? I think all this angry comes from the fact that George W. Bush was elected in 2000. Some of the wackos will say "he was selected not elected".

All I have to say is...just imagine if Gore was President today. Oh my GOD!!!!!!!!!!! We would be dead. We would all be speaking Arabic as our first language and it would be manditory to read the Koran. He would appease Saddam. He would appease the French. He would appease the terrorists. He would appease bin Laden. The list would never end. Nothing would have changed from September the 10th 2001.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HHHHHEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I can go on and on and on and on and on about what is worng with America, but now is not the time for that kind of behavior. The time has come to BACK OUR PRESIDENT and SUPPORT OUR TROOPS! Screw the french, germans, and belgians, amongst others.

What is it going to take for these people to wake the HELL up??? I really feel bad for these people. They are trapped by their own ignorance and lack of principle and discipline.

You know what the crazy thing is? I consider myself a conservative democrat a few months ago...but now its like I am a liberal republican.

I thought I would never think like this EVER. But I guess when you have 3000 of your fellow countrymen die by terrorists...and REALIZE THE DANGER OF IT HAPPENING AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN, you'll cahnge your mind....

Andrew B

TO: Andrew B
RE: Getting It

"I don't get it. I really don't. What is wrong with these people. They trust Saddam more than Bush." -- Andrew B

I think I get it....or part of it.

Someone commented elsewhere that the older ones, those from the 60s, never grew up in the first place. Or maybe they never had a life other than that. They're looking on this as an opportunity to feel the energy of commiting to something they think is important. Even if they are dead wrong, they're having a 'life', for once.

The young ones?

I think they're the product of an education system that didn't teach them very well about dictators and reality. Where the education system teaches 'tolerance' and 'diversity', dictators and mass-murderers have as much right to rule as anybody else.

Thank you NEA....

It's that 'generation of vipers' thing someone talked about in some old book, so long ago.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[Education, replacing an empty mind with an open one.]
However, I get the distinct impression that the minds of these kids in the street are more closed than open. Look at their behavior....

You're absolutely right. I am 26 years old. I am sick of this illness that is killing us faster than the terrorists.

Andrew B

Has anyone called dibs on Whore of Babylon yet?

I'm just asking on behalf of a friend.

If I'm going to be representing any deities or semi-dieties, I call dibs on Kali!

TO: All
RE: Kali, Anyone?

"...I call dibs on Kali! " -- Kathy K

Kill(h)er. Quickly, before her cult spreads.

Anybody got any tobacco? I could use a 'smoke'.

Regards,

Chuck(le)
P.S. For the uninformed, when a group of thugs [Note: Thugee was the name of the religion involving the worship of Kali. Our modern term 'thug' is derived from it.] joined a party of travellers, the phrase to begin the killing of the party they had joined was, "Pass the tobacco"....or so I understand.

Congrats to all four horsemen!

Andrea Harris wrote:

Charles is Cthulhu. Who else could it be? And Glenn Reynolds is Yog-Sothoth! Now, who is Nyarlathotep...

Yeech. That must make us "The Forbidden Corpse-Eating Cult of Inaccessible Leng" .... Ai Cthulhu, what a mess! Well, see you all at the next Gibbous Moon, I guess.

Hey Ageing hippie,
you said
" use your brain. you don't get to be hip and smart by mimicking people in the past.

end of today's wisdom..........."
I am a 36 yr old guy who went to a sold out Rock concert last year at Madison square garden for a group I like and was clearly one of the older folks in the crowd.
At one point the singer starts talking to the crowd about individuality and such and tells everyone "You all must think for yourself...dont let anyone tell you how to think"...He then says..."repeat after me...I will think for myself, no one will tell me what to think"...and you guessed it...20,000 screaming young knuckleheads started chanting" I will think for myself...no one will tell me what to think"
I fell on the floor laughing my ass off.
Dan

Yeech. That must make us "The Forbidden Corpse-Eating Cult of Inaccessible Leng" .... Ai Cthulhu, what a mess! Well, see you all at the next Gibbous Moon, I guess.

Next full moon, at Serpent Mound. We need to raise the Great Snake and set it loose.

"And I saw, and behold, a pale server..." (well, OK, putty-colored)

"...and its bandwidth was lousy..."

#65:

Anyone got a smoke? :)

Hadn't heard that one, but I like it. And please don't judge 'deities' by their followers, unless you want to take into account Monsieur bin Laden, various members of the Inquisition and numerous other examples that I am far too lazy to list.

TO: Kathy K
RE: So Tell Me...

"And please don't judge 'deities' by their followers." -- Kathy K

....about Christ.

Or should I tell you?

Regards,

Chuck(le)
[A tree is known by it's fruit. -- Some Wag, 2000 years ago.]

#7 Andrew B
Very good points.
Everyone should read what you wrote.

Congratulations of coming to the right side with the rest of us artists who are not insane! Hell, the left of today scared off Dennis Miller and Christopher Hitchens with their insanity, for the 'Horsemen's sake...

But this only confirms what I've been saying for years...leftist sense of humour died with Will Rogers.

I meant that for Andrew, BTW.