Don't they have jobs to go to?

Where's Ranbutan when you need someone to worry about American taxpayer monies?

#1, Well, no. They don't need to go 'cause of our 2 billion.

what do you expect fom yasser's native land? jeeesh!!!

Hey, Arafat, your wife is out lookin' for lovin' again!!!

I can't tell you how many times I have had the following conversations with peaceniks:

idiotarian

We shouldn't be giving all that money to Israel, it isn't fair.

ve

You realize we give the same amount to Egypt?

idiotarian

Oh...really...well...war is bad...Bush is stupid...

ve

Ahh, good point, thanks for enlightening me.

SACEUR CONSIDERING OVERHAUL OF FORWARD
PRESENCE IN EUROPE
[Link: www.dfi-intl.com...]

Looks like Uncle Sugar may be set to punish the Germany economy a little by pulling some troops. Or maybe they are slowly throwing us out like the French did.

Wow...looks like Egypt sees a lot of Michael Moore...cause they make some damn good effigees of him

#7 Steve

Or maybe they are slowly throwing us out like the French did.

If they do I know of some Bulgarian and Polish politicians that will be doing backflips of joy...

i saw this sign at a peace demonstration:

War Against War!

morons!

also:

Sheryl Crow had supported Clinton and the war in Bosnia. She even entertained the troops over there. But she's against the war in Iraq. Why? Because George Bush is president. Today's peace movement is a leftist political organization that has no more moral integrity than a colony of herpes virus floating in Larry Flynt's hot tub.

I wonder if the Usual Suspects will label that thing as racist.

I'm betting they won't.

Lizzy (#4):

"Jeesh" means "urine" in Farsi. Just thought I'd mention that b/c your post made me laugh for reasons you probably had not intended.

Where's Ranbutan when you need someone to worry about American taxpayer monies?

He already explained that we give Egypt $2 billion because of the neoconservative Likudnik cabal.

12..BEN, NOT INTENDED, but oooh so appropriate! olololololololololol!

Upon this a question arises: whether it be better to be loved than feared or feared than loved? It may be answered that one should wish to be both, but, because it is difficult to unite them in one person, is much safer to be feared than loved, when, of the two, either must be dispensed with. Because this is to be asserted in general of men, that they are ungrateful, fickle, false, cowardly, covetous, and as long as you succeed they are yours entirely; they will offer you their blood, property, life and children, as is said above, when the need is far distant; but when it approaches they turn against you. And that prince who, relying entirely on their promises, has neglected other precautions, is ruined; because friendships that are obtained by payments, and not by greatness or nobility of mind, may indeed be earned, but they are not secured, and in time of need cannot be relied upon; and men have less scruple in offending one who is beloved than one who is feared, for love is preserved by the link of obligation which, owing to the baseness of men, is broken at every opportunity for their advantage; but fear preserves you by a dread of punishment which never fails.
...
Returning to the question of being feared or loved, I come to the conclusion that, men loving according to their own will and fearing according to that of the prince, a wise prince should establish himself on that which is in his own control and not in that of others; he must endeavour only to avoid hatred, as is noted.

...
[Link: www.gooddocuments.com...]

sacrasm/
Whoa, stop this hateful rhetoric guys - Egypt is our ally and and any radicals represent just a fraction of a percent of the silent majority that stands by Americans...
/sacrasm

blah blah blah

Thanks to television, my attention span is too limited to read T. Jefferson's post (#15). I'm sure it's well written, though.

Of course, I blame Bush.

/sarcasm

Do you call that a muppet?

#1 ofcourse and they are not working, they are on extened unemployment benefits. Who needs to work when the us taxpayers pay $2 billion/year.

Apparently, they sent out the email before they actually updated the site. The link shoud be:
SACEUR CONSIDERING OVERHAUL OF FORWARD...

nikol.. that's HANAN ASHWARI beforeshes put on her make-up,, or maybe after.. hard to tell.

It looks like a muppet !

#20 -
Mr Jennings would like to speak to you.

Who knew that Arabs and idiotarians had so much in common?

Has it ever occurred to anyone that the budget for terrorism against the USA is probably roughly equivalent to the amount we pay all these terrorist states in foreign aid?

Except Iraq, of course... they get their money from the Weasels!

#23 -
Talk about ugly, the Carter Center got $165,000 for a baseball signed by Cuban President Fidel Castro

[Link: www.cartercenter.org...]

Who'd want that, other than another idiotarian?

#22 Jenning's Agent

Are you referring to the well known fact that Peter Jennings used to prong Ms. Ashrawi with regularity?

Want to have some real fun at this rally, or one like it in the Mid-East?

1)Slip on the flowing robes and paste on a scraggly beard if need be to fit in.

2)Work your way through the throng until you can get to the microphone.

3) Hold aloft and announce you have 5 green-cards and plane tickets to the USA for the five men who praise America the loudest.

4) Run, but watch over your shoulder as they tear themselves to pieces while screaming the lyrics to "Yankee Doodle Dandy" at the top of their lungs.

Re #5: This one gave me a belly laugh.

So did they just gather into a stadium and wave their signs at each other? They could have at least marched at the US embassy..

also, keep in mind that this demonstration was organized by Mubarak. Although it's probably just a way to let off steam. Notice the conspicuous abscence of Palestinian flags. I could see more Pali flags walking down Telegraph Ave. here in Berkeley.

Hey! They're filming another LOTR in Egypt and nobody told us? What's that Orc doing there?

#26:
THAT'S SIMPLY NOT TRUE, YOUNG MAN. Mr Jennings was far too drun...
er, suffering from a condition.
He and Ms Ashrawi were merely consoling each other in the true spirit of socialism whil suffering under the Israeli occupation together.

ok, I know I listen to WAY too much old rock, but that looks a lot like Eddie, the mascot from Iron Maiden

Can The World of Star Trek Help Americans Understand Muslims and their Culture of Terror?

Re: #33

Looks like parody.

#30 Meryl, I liked your comments on the WTC replacement. It's kind of like a mid-morph between Astro's doghouse and an F-117.

Ariel (#2)

I had the most insane day, I'm tired and cranky but you just made me laugh. Thanks!

Not that I expect anyone to care but I saw Flea from the Red Hot Chilli Peppers today, which I thought was cool. Movie stars bore me but musicians I can get get a little star-struck over.

Good God... HBO has liberated the Crypt Keeper and leased her out to the highest bidder...

I have to say this is the best effigy I have seen in a long time. The mask and hat - nice touch. I have made a study of these things since the Iranian hostage crisis. Here are some of my thoughts:

1. The Palestinians are really bad at effigees. Please see [Link: www.time.com...] See what I mean? No style.

2. A proper effigy must have actual clothes on a dummy. I notice that places where western dress is unpopular (i.e. Pakistan) have trouble getting the suit jacket, shirt and tie combo so important for the good effigy. The Egyptians use the suit and time well.

3. There is a need for some sort of internal rigid support to keep the effigy's head up when it is being burned. Just having the head nod down looks bad.

4. Finally, just throwing the thing on the street once it is on fire just does not look as good as hanging it by a noose from a lightpole.

Now, don't get me wrong - the ideas expressed by the effigy are utterly repugnant. But, if one is to do something, it may as well be done well.

Finally, just throwing the thing on the street once it is on fire just does not look as good as hanging it by a noose from a lightpole.

Ja, sure for your effen g's, but this effen g has an effen Egyptian inside it.

According to the CIA Factbook the present population of Egypt is 73 million, that divided into 2 Billion dollars means $28. for every Egyptian, to put this in perspective the budget for the US National Endowment for the Art is $108M or 37 cents for each American. With a $3700 average per capita income in Egypt that $28. is a substantial amount of money, someone tell me why we are giving this sum again?

#16 According to Thomas Friedman 61% of Egyptians believe that 9/11 was a Jew/ CIA plot to discredit Muslims, so don't bother with your "silent majority" or "fraction of a percent" theory, they generally hate and mistrust us.

Steve: Why, thank you. I had a whole post on the WTC designs but I spiked it. Probably shouldn't have.

Did you see the one with the grid? It looked like you could see the skyline and play tic-tac-toe on it. Talk about a loser design!

By the way, # 37: Excellent catch! I hadn't realized it was the Crypt Keeper.

Could we get the French to toss in the 2 billion for Egypt, then we can give 4 billion to Isreal?

DELENDUM SADDAM!

Yet more proof that we'll win this thing in the long run--we do better parodies. I mean, think about it:

--Monster in Uncle Sam suit

--Steve Martin singing "King Tut"

There's no comparison, really...

SADDAM DELENDUM EST!

"quick, get the signs printed in english, the american camera crews are here!"

I'm not sure about the white suit that the efigy is wearing. I seem to remember only two Americans in white suits...Mr. Roarke from Fantasy Island and Steve Martin from the "Wild And Crazy Guys" days. Both from the 70's. Maybe we should send them some new TV shows along with the money.

#45

Ahh, that explains why the effigy looks so grumpy.

He's wearing... the CRUEL SHOES! :)

It's the Grinch that stole Ramadan

#33, 34: Actually, I seem to remember a Star Trek episode involving a beautiful Arab-like princess from a despotic planet who falls in love with Kirk after he slaps her (or is it that he saved her life?). I think Kirk at one point even tries to explain to her the virtues of democracy over despotism. Does anyone know the episode I'm referring to?

# 48 -

"Elaan of Troyius"

[Link: www.startrek.com...]

I see that picture, I think Michael Jackson in "Thriller."

Or, for that matter, Michael Jackson on that TV interview the other day.

Oh, those madcap Egyptians...

Money can't buy you love.

Perhaps Lesson #1 of the overseas Jewish communities, something the US should realize by now as well.

Right, #2 Ariel, #13 James (faction, not cabal)?

Why should it be any different when the US hands out welfare checks?

IMO, 25 years of multi-billion dollar annual welfare check entitlements to 2 ME countries, comprising over half of total American foreign aid, is long past due for a major policy revision as money down two ungrateful ratholes. The money should cease and be diverted to more needy countries in Asia, Latin America, and subsaharan Africa. 5 billion can do great good rather than just perpetuate the ME status quo for our two parasitic "friends".

Egypt has strategic value as one of the two centers of Islamic life, and for the Suez Canal. But we pay every dollar they are due for the Suez on top of their aid package.

Israel has little strategic value post Cold War. It is a diplomatic, economic, and military ball and chain on the US's leg. It has moral value for many Americans...but has lost much of it's moral weight abroad and increasingly in the US for it's oppressive actions in occupied territories.

Time to move on. 1978 Camp David had payments that were not meant to be eternal welfare guarantees but to adjust for losses with the peace and bribes to get Egypt and Israel to agree to peace. Special interest lobbies in the USA greased the right palms in Congress to make the billions given to the 2 ME Welfare Queens an
annual US taxpayer obligation.

In the US domestic welfare queens screamed that ended their lifetime dole would lead to ruin and perdition. It didn't. Same with Israel & Egypt...cutting off their wheelbarrow loads of US taxpayer money would cause a major hissy fit, but it would also jar them - get the two countries off their asses and to get them serious about fixing deep socialistic flaws in their economies. And yes, both countries have enough F-16s to get them happy as is.

I'm probably way off-base here, but I prefer that the US be seen as in inhuman monster. If the only other choices are naive fools, useful idiots, or soft-minded liberals, I'll take the monster.

OT: A co-worker was telling me that his young daughter's favorite cartoon movie was An American Tail. I paused to think and asked, "That's the one where about Jewish immigrants to New York, except the Jews are mice?" Yes, he replied. Visions of Maus ran through my head as I said, I'm sick of being portrayed as a mouse. I wanna be portrayed as Godzilla.

Check out the flag on "Uncle Monster's" lapel. It seems to be morphing into a French flag. Heheheh.

I may be in error, but I believe (based primarily on the context) the the quoted material is not from Jefferson, but from The Prince, by Machiavelli.

One thing about the Islamofascists - they sure can throw a good demonstration. Seriously though I think that we were more popular in Egypt when we were not that involved with the corrupt Mubarak government.

Someone should introduce these morons to the joys of liquor and sex.

Personally, I'd much rather drink and have sex than be in a stinking hot stadium, surrounded by 70,000 unwashed males.

Good place for a dirty bomb. Nah -I didn't say that.

Mardi Gras?