Stupidity is not a crime, but it rarely goes unpunished.

The next Darwin Awards Nominee...

It's sad for her; it's sad for her family but WHAT WAS SHE THINKING? Hopefully the other "shields" will think twice before standing in front of a bulldozer. She could have accomplished much good if she had true humanitarian motives. What a shame!

Rest in pieces.

Charles, how do we know that the photo is of Corrie?

Separately, why is the media giving so much more prominence to the fact that an American died than they do when American citizens are killed by Arab terrorists in Israel?

Another oxy-moronical victory for the israel-nay-sayers.
she was an idiot that died for a cause not worth fighting for--appeasement for terrorism.

Best reaction so far:

[Link: users2.ev1.net...]

#2 Beat me to Darwin, but what a dolt that person was. Anyway, somewhat OT, Bush 24 notice is very smart diplomatically. Puts ball in Frenchie court and we know they can't hit.

(I can't believe I'm stooping so low to say this but....) I'll bet she doesn't have the guts to do that again.

If this is a real picture of Rachel Corrie than I can only sympathize with her family. Maybe her mom loved her, but Rachel's contribution to the society at large was rather negative.

She was a True Believer --- she decided long ago to sacrifice herself, her individuality, for a "greater" cause.
Poor, sad, brainwashed little girl. Another victim to the lies of postmodernism, the propoganda of the Arab state media and their western (postmodernist) enablers.
She probably never had a chance.

And for this she deserved to die?

You mean she was pro-"palestinian" and anti-American? I thought that combination was quite rare...

Just call it a 'work-related accident'. Too bad, so sad--but that's what happens when you get in front of a bulldozer.

Rest in Pieces!

Bernie Simon #12,

And for this she deserved to die?

For diving in front of a bulldozer about to bulldoze a house? Yes. If for no other reason then to improve the gene pool.

11-centaur
you must live in europe. i totally agree

Next!

#12 -

Did someone say she "deserved to die"? But anyone who intentionally puts themselves in harm's way has to assume the risks that come along with that decision... It was most likely an accident (the CNN article said she was "sitting down" in front of the house - can someone on top of a big bulldozer see someone seated below them? Especially when the blade of the bulldozer is raised?), but it's hard to have a lot of sympathy. I do feel bad for her family, though. THEY didn't make the stupid choices...

AP sez she slipped and fell in front of the 'dozer as it was on approach. Maybe they need to offer Dexterity 101 at Evergreen State.

I'm sure the fur is flying over at NazyMedia over this thing.

Maybe they'll name an elementary school for her in Eugene or Madison or some other f***ed-up place.

How about a casual contest: 1 box of 7,62x39 for the first confirmed report of a copycat incident, attempted or successful...

I know i am going to see some sort of article in indymedia.org. posted by the ISM. they use the IM network to get money and support.

I need to know the source of the photo above in my attempt to clear up her agenda when fighting what ISM say on their site.

Does this make her an honorary martyr? Does she get 72 buffed dudes in paradise?

pub bulldozed by rebuffed drunk

A connection? I wonder.

#19 SkltLqr

Make that a box of .460 Weatherby Magnum, and I'm game.

No sympathy. She asked for it.

Another idiot bit the dust.

JG

# 12-

See post #1

Not exactly the same as this guy, I'd say.

Life is about personal responsibility. You have the freedom to make the choices; you best have the integrity to deal with the consequences. We all should be glad that we have the right to make mistakes. She made her choice and this is what it got her.

I will not weep for her--she was a horrible person (for what should be obvious reasons...think about where she was, what she was doing, who she thought were the bad guys (America and Israel, not the suicide bombers of Islamic fascists), and the symbolism of the picture shown above).

Here is a picture of her to compare to the one above. Hard to tell if they're the same.

picture on yahoo news

The link in the picture above, if you backtrack to the main URL and go to the picture gallery, you will see that it notes for Gaza, "Do you recognize anyone in this picture?" or some such. Whoever is in that picture is/was a big player in the Olympia "Peace" movement, so verifying if that was she probably won't be too hard.

Before the moral police arrive I'd like to remind everyone of another American killed in the Middle East. She was 14 years old, her life ended on a bus in Haifa on March 5, 2003. Her name was Avigail Leitner.

Her parents identified her remains at the morgue by a bracelet she wore on her ankle. Her legs were the only part of her body that remained intact.

She was murdered, along with 16 others (mostly teenagers) by a suicide bomber from Hebron. The IDF operation in Gaza was meant to prevent this type of atrocity, by demolishing the home of a suicide terrorist.

Never forget. Never forgive.

No doubt this will be used to drum up anti-semitic and anti-Israel sentiment in the U.S., in contrast to the way that the deaths of Americans in Palestinian terrorist attacks is always played down.

I have the same question as #5. How do we know this is Corrie?

When her body is returned to Washington state, we have a special somebody waiting to welcome her home...
Gross out alert!

The whole 'human shield' concept is arrogant and racist at it's core.

These imbeciles think their western carcasses are worth more than those of the people they are there to 'shield'.

It would seem, in this case, that she thought her carcasse was worth more than the safety of Israelis, who were destroying a terrorist home or a home sitting on a weapons tunnel. What arrogance.

Too bad for her family. Too bad for the poor soldier who has to live with the knowledge he accidentaly killed someone.

Can't seem to muster a sympathetic thought about her, however.

DocJeff (#32) damn, I had to wash my eyeballs after reading that. Yeah I know you warned us, but still.....

Got to be careful around heavy equipment. It won't even take much effort to kill you graveyard dead. She screwed up big time and paid the ultimate price.

Human death is, usually, a sad event. In this case, it looks like she was asking for it. Unusual.

blockin' horse 4 peace, man

OK, what is it with this weird, childish, petulant desire of the anti-war crowd to stand in front of things?

Please, for the love of G-d, don't let one of these nitwits decide to stand in front of my car while I'm trying to get somewhere.

Nik #30,

Ya, but Abigail was jewish. Doesn't count for the media.

In addition to the comment Addison notes above, also see this page at the site, where Rachel Corrie is listed as the contact for the Olympia Movement for Justice and Peace:

[Link: www.omjp.org...]

Doing a google search for Rachel Corrie I found the following url that seems to be associated with the human shield.

its titled: 'Cultivating Sustainable Movements' its part of a group that calls itself Olympia Movement for Justice & Peace.
[Link: www.omjp.org...]

It has an intersting photo of a mural of a mother holding a child in her arms and a long knife in one hand and an ear of corn in the other.

#30 nik

Actually, her name was Abigail Litle. The name originally given was a translation/transliteration problem... but perhaps that's why no one paid any attention - they thought she was "just" an American-born Israeli Jew. No one seemed to care all that much about the Americans killed in the Hebrew U bombing, either - the deaths of Americans who support Israel are clearly less important than the deaths of pro-Palestinian Americans.

For what it's worth, Abigail was not Jewish but Baptist. Possibly part of these folks - Word of Messiah - Abigail Litle

Rage Against the Machine:

Rage - 0
Machine - 1

Just thinking of that scene from Austin Powers 1 with the bulldozer ("nooooooooooo"...10 minutes later.. still standing in front of the bulldozer "noooooooooo"). The bad thing is this girl is going to be martyred, not taken as a negative example. Sorry for her family but this girl is no hero to be praised.

Ouch! Doh! Stupid Poetic Justice!

#41:

I know that death isn't something to laugh about, but still...aahahahaha.

I'm sorry she was so blind, misguided, or outright stupid enough to get in front of the bulldozer. I'm not sorry that, being those things, she was killed in the process of her chosen action.

I'm sure that this will trigger a deluge of anti-semitic crap world wide, but then again, what doesn't? It seems that no matter what happens, there are more than enough countries who want to piss on Israel for their own reasons.

And honestly, if some poor deluded bint thought that she could jet on over to Gaza and make the world a better place, she got a harsh dose of reality. The fact that she allowed herself to be nothing more than a tool for Arafat kills any sympathy that I might have had for her.

She didn't care about peace. She cared about getting back at the country which provided her such a rich life.

By words and actions, she was a fanatic. Better she throw herself in front of a bulldozer before she decided to start strapping C-4 to her waist.
Eric Hoffer's ideas on True Believers are right.

Does the scene from " A fish named Wanda" come to mind?

Hint: Kevin Cline, and a steam roller

Another young person who will now be used as a "useful idiot" in propaganda.

If we are very lucky it will cause other young people who would be killed for the gain of leftist propaganda pause.

If anyone tries to condemn the bulldozer or its driver, he/she should be reminded of the fact that they too have root causes and deserve understanding.

Doron:

Sorry for her family but this girl is no hero to be praised.

I was sorry for Lindh's mother and father until I saw them on television. After that, I was just sorry for the human race.

Joseph Vissarionovich Dzhugashvili (aka Joe Stalin) was famous for quotes. One of those quotes was "One death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic."

There is no doubt that her death is a tragedy for her family and friends. My condolences go out to her family.

What is unfortunate about this situation is that it was completely avoidable. A crawler type dozer has a forward speed of about 3 - 7 mph. If she fell so close that she couldn't get away, then her death could be termed a suicide.

Someone inculcated this woman with a very slanted world view. Heavy equipment is designed to destroy works of nature, a human body is one of the most easily shattered works of nature on the planet.

She should have been taught better.

RIP

Sapper Mike

#40 Laura

The group that you identified called "Word of Messiah" is Jews for Jesus group which is sponsored by the Baptists as a way to subtly recruit Jews into Christianity. Mainstream Jews don't care for these manipulative groups.

Unless I'm missing something, there are no comments about what Israeli officials have said about this. I'm cynical, I know, but the whole report seems to be based on what

...Palestinian officials said.

I'm sorry this woman died, but I can't find it in me to feel immense sorrow for terrorists and their supporters. It was arrogant to think that because she's an American that she would be able to stop the IDF from doing what they feel is necessary in order to protect Israelis from psychotic mass-murderers. Why is her story so much larger than so many others that have died?

Or the scene from Naked Gun. All that's needed is a marching band to trample the flattened corpse.

No sympathy for a fool from Evergreen State College that looks at Israeli civilians getting blown to pieces and sides with their attackers.

Israel successfully expelled one of Rachel's friends after court procedings. check out this articel about the events. note that this person had been to suicide bombers' homes.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

ANOTHER SCENE IN A MOVIE COMES TO MIND, A STEAM ROLLER IN "AUSTIN POWERS- INTERNATIONAL MAN OF MYSTERY"

From the (dead) horse's mouth:

Although the tank moved into their path, the internationals were able to manoeuvre into the path of the bulldozer, at which point it moved to a nearby house and began to demolish a garden wall

#37

Abigail was not a Jewish but belong to family of American Baptist, gentile zionists. Her surname is Little and not Leitner as the the Times (wrongly?) put. (T. Gross in his article on Times bias against Israel in the National Review gave the impression that it was not just a mistake.)

As to the tragedy today, no doubt that woman was not belong the smart part of human race, and saw herself as the embodiment of Lawrence of Arabia. Now the IDF gave its own version, which I think is truthful: no house was demolished, there was a clearing of bushes by the buldo in area which Israel had military control according to the Oslo Accords. That woman just jumped in the way of the machine, which due to its armour, the driver has a very limited view. It was a tragic accident.

These idiots are hypocrites. They accuse the Israelis of being inhuman killers, but then they cynically rely on the Israelis' sense of humanity in expecting them not to run them over with bulldozers. And they're right - this was an accident - the bulldozer operator would not have rolled over her deliberately.

Can anyone say the same of any Arab regime? The silence is deafening.

This is yet another example of a "whitebread" Middle American doing her damndest to "identify" with people whose lives she considers to be more "meaningful" than hers. I had WASP friends in college who bemoaned their lack of an exotic ethnic identity (until it came time for the debutante balls and an assured slot in daddy's firm, that is - at which point they suddenly got over it).

I consider her to be a suicide. At least she didn't have 20 pounds of C-4 strapped on.

#5 How do we know the picture is of Corey? Check out the article in haaretzdaily.com and you'll see the resemblance for yourself.

The IDF was clearing these building to deny the Pal terrorists firing positions. By obstructing them, Corey was supporting terrorism, and endangering the lives of Israelis. She got what she deserved.

I feel bad in the sense that I feel badly for someone who is crushed by a bulldozer.

However, as she was giving aid and comfort to my enemies in wartime and styming efforts by my people (e.g., Jews) to defend themselves, I can't say I'd rather her have saved the house.

My sympathies to her family who did not obstruct the IDF, but who did lose a daughter, sister etc.

> Did someone say she "deserved to die"? But anyone who
> intentionally puts themselves in harm's way has to
> assume the risks that come along with that decision...

Funny, but I get the impression that the consensus opinion around here is that she did deserve to die.

Let me suggest the way it should have been handled:

Rachel stands in front of bulldozer. Bulldozer stops and calls for soldier. Soldier comes and tells Rachel to move or she will be arrested. Soldier arrests Rachel and bulldozer resumes its work.

Does anyone disagree or has life become so cheap that you really don't give a damn about a girl's life?

in the US, when a protester chains themselves to something or sits in the way of heavy equipment, the equipment usually stops. So they go overseas and try this tactic on people trying to actually protect themselves (instead of a logging contract, their jobs or some other thing) and are shocked when one gets run over. I dunno, seems arrogant as hell to me. No wonder they hate us

ROFL

erm, no i don't feel sorry for her.

I once saw something on the news, where a 16 year old kid had accidently shot & killed himself while playing with a gun. All his friends and teachers gave their most heartfelt apologies and were extremely saddened blah blah blah, and then here comes this kids 11 year old brother, "I think he was stupid. He knew he shouldn't have been messing with the gun. He deserved it".

#63 Bernie Simon

Let me suggest the way it should have happened:

Girl sees bulldozer. Girl doesn't run in front of bulldozer and sit down where driver can't see girl. No problem.

Good Riddence to Bad Rubbish. One less Idiot to tear down Western Civilization. Wake up people! Creatures like Corrie are the enemies of every value that makes human life and flourishing possible. I'll shed no tears for this one or the family that spawned it. Better people die every day. Check your local obits.

I wonder if those idiotarians who are planning to storm Vandenberg Air Force Base when the war starts have noticed this story yet. If they have a couple of neurons left, they might see their future foretold in the now two-dimensional form pressed into the Gaza pavement.

Let me suggest the way it should have been handled:

Rachel stands in front of bulldozer. Bulldozer stops and calls for soldier. Soldier comes and tells Rachel to move or she will be arrested. Soldier arrests Rachel and bulldozer resumes its work.

Does anyone disagree or has life become so cheap that you really don't give a damn about a girl's life?

You assume she was seen. I do not. The CNN article says she was sitting down, not standing. I would not take the word of people who certainly mean malice towards the IDF that their version of events are exactly as transpired.

However, you are right. If she was seen your scenario is how it should have been handled.

I can assure you of one thing. The IDF did not purposefully kill this woman, it was an accident.

Please. If she'd been seen, she wouldn't have been run over - the Israelis have absolutely no reason to invite bad press by doing something like this deliberately, and they're too moral to do it anyway. End of story.

"To everything there is a time and a season......a time to heal and a time to kill...." Ahhhhhhh.

Maybe her peacenik group ought to stop burning American flags and start carrying around the old "Don't Tread On Me" flags.

Of course, this pathetic America-hating tail-biting viper's flag should have the Don't crossed out when it's draped over her coffin. Lay a few tank and bulldozer treads across the snake, too.

#52 Mike O

I know - I'm a "mainstream Jew" who doesn't care for them at all... I didn't comment on it when I posted because I felt it would be in poor taste under the circumstances (didn't want to sound like it made me less sympathetic towards her death). But I did want to point it out...

#63 Bernie

If people are a little unsympathetic, it's because she lost her life taking action to defend criminals (accomplices to terror). And as for how they should have acted - see #58. It was an ACCIDENT. Accidents happen in this country, as well - didn't a cop recently run over 2 women sunbathing?? Would you ever go to a construction site and stand close to a bulldozer? No, because they might not see you and you might get hurt. Visibility is poor from big machines.

Furthermore, as lefties keep intentionally ignoring, Israel is AT WAR with the Palestinians. Therefore, the rules of engagement are DIFFERENT than the rules governing police actions involving citizens of one's own country. If you interfere with military personnel doing their job, you are much much more likely to get hurt than if you interfere with the police.

terminal naivety

Good!

She deserved it.

"If you support terrorism we will hunt you down."

Thank this dead lady for making it easy.

In this dispatch to the earnest folks at the International Solidarity Movement, Rachel Corrie wistfully describes the Joy of Flag-burning:

The demonstration began at 11 and lasted about an hour. Children and representatives from community groups gave speeches in Arabic. Masses marched carrying signs and banners that said "Peace for children in Palestine and Iraq" and "The real terrorists are in the United States and Israel", among many other statements against war on Iraq, and in support of the Iraqi people. The internationals recognized symbols and banners from numerous school and community-groups, Fateh, DFLP, FIDA, PFLP, Hamas and many individual demonstrators among those marching.

I have to wonder what Hamas, the PFLP, and Fatah are doing at a "peace" rally. If that what peace is, I say Cry Havoc and let the dogs out.

... a British national burned a large British flag, and a US national burned a large US flag. Both activists then burned numerous images of US president George W. Bush. The woman who deliverd the speech burned a picture of the houses of Parliament in London. As the speech concluded they began to chant, with the crowd immediately surrounding them, "Hurriyah la Falasteen" –Freedom for Palestine—repeatedly.

Burned a picture of Parliament? I didn't know the Palestinians observed Guy Fawkes Day.

Other groups burned a giant papier-maché model of an F-16 bomber, an effigy of Ariel Sharon, as well as giant Israeli, US, and British flags.

This is enough stuff to keep Janeann Garafalo masturbating for a week.

As for this woman, I feel the same for her as I do for Lori Berenson, an idiot lefty currently serving I believe a 15 year sentence in Peru for aiding Marxist terrorists in their attempt to bring down the Peruvian government. If you want to leave the most free nation on Earth to help enslave another people, you deserve whatever you get. A public hanging would be too good for her. As for this Gaza Human Shield, she had no problem living among families that encouraged and helped to carry out terrorist acts against Israelis. Therefore, I have no sympathy for her. I feel sorry for her parents, though. I wonder if they're feeling guilty for having encouraged her in this action, or if they simply couldn't save her from her delusions.

Slightly OT--

Zulubaby (#53) mentioned that the only accounts on this issue are coming from Palestinian officials (and they're certainly above reproach, aren't they). This reminds me of a similar action that the IDF took recently, in which the IDF were bulldozing homes, and an explosion inside one of the homes killed at least one innocent bystander. The Palestinians instantly claimed that the Israelis launched some sort of cluster-bomb-like device into the house before bulldozing it. The bomb sent out shards of metal that shredded flesh. Some Palestinian doctor tried to convince Fox News' Jennifer Griffin that the bomb was an Israeli anti-tank weapon, by showing x-ray films with metal embedded in the victims' flesh. Ms. Griffin pointed out that Palestinians have frequently incorporated nails, shrapnel, and ball-bearings in their suicide bombs, so it could have been a bomb detonated inside the house like the ones that exploded during the siege of Jenin. Does anyone know the outcome of this story? Does it even matter?

Why can't the Israelis just toss these people out of the country?

What's left to say?

Just be sure to stamp a kill marker on the side of that 'dozer...

Hmmm. There was a time, around 4 months ago, when I'd really get annoyed with all this "negative sentiment" surrounding this death.

(For example: [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

But now? Too many bombings, too many shootings, too many attacks. Since Iain Hook was shot, hundreds have been murdered, thousands injured, and this woman would justify it all. Israel has been forced to send its youngest and brightest to fight an enemy bent on the destruction of the Jewish people and the state of Israel, and the most constructive thing she can do is burn flags and jump in front of armoured vehicles.

We hear a lot about the need for education, job oppurtunities, all the things a person has a right to, as a means of deterring young people from becoming terrorists. Unless there's a Rachel Corrie clinic (or something similar), then she was simpy a deluded war tourist.

By burning flags and impeding IDF operations, she has simply shown that it is ok to do that, thereby encouraging more demonstrations. Some of these will end up in the death(s) of teenage or younger kids.

For encouraging actions that can only lead to more suffering for the Palestinians, I won't feel sad for her. Enough people have died already, and more will die because of her and those like her.

Let's see what she actually did:

o Encouraged other to stand in front of bulldozers
o Died
o ...I can't think of anything else

This wasn't a tragedy, it was stupidity.

#40 thanks for the correction. I knew she wasn't Jewish.

#63 Bernie

I prefer your scenario. I got an even better scenario:

Scene: Ben-Gurion International Airport, passport control:

Passport control : Hello. What is your reason for coming to Israel?

Rachel : I am part of the International Solidarity Campaign.

Passport control : Your tourist visa has been denied. Please board the next plane back to Olympia.

Rachel : Darn!

End of story.

A couple years ago Evergreen State invited Mumia Abu Jamal, cop killer, to give the commencement speach at graduation. I also recall that they had particularly, uh, spirited anti-Isreal protests last year. If anyone here is from Washington, contact your State Rep and ask why your tax dollars are funding such a screwed up institution that breeds terrorist lovers and anti-American radicals.

great!

Sen. Patty Murray has just proposed a five day waiting period and background checks before the purchase of a tractor can proceed.

Good, but some 23 years too late.

Anyway, soon these will be identified from the DNA of the embryo and will be aborted.

Go biotech!

#63 BERNIE SIMON

THIS IS WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED,

GIRL SITS IN FRONT OF BULLDOZER:

SOLDIER GETS OUT OF BULLDOZER:

SOLDIER IS PICKED OFF BY PALESTINIAN SNIPER!!

HELLO, WAKE UP, THIS IS GAZA, NOT MAIN STREET USA, WHY IN GOD'S SAKE DO YOU THINK THESE VEHICLES ARE ARMOUR PLATED!!!

Amy (#59)

These idiots are hypocrites. They accuse the Israelis of being inhuman killers, but then they cynically rely on the Israelis' sense of humanity in expecting them not to run them over with bulldozers.

As always, making perfect, eloquent sense.

#63 Bernie-- I'd like to give a damn about a girl's life if the girl hadn't devoted her life to aligning herself with people who blow other people up in buses and in nightclubs and in grocery stores in order to make a point. In the end, she thought and then acted exactly like the murderers she chose to openly support. Living the life she foolishly chose to live, she brought unncecessary danger and risk onto herself, until finally she killed-who else?- herself. What a surprise. And only sad for her family, by the way.

Exactly Martha, why should any of us place more value on this terrorist enabler's life than she did? If Corrie valued human life she wouldn't have been where she was doing what she was doing. The world is now a better place.

Brandi in AZ (#77)

Does it even matter?

Not to the Propaganda Piranhas. The myth is out there and will be documented as fact by the terrorists and their loverrrrs. Maybe even included in a text book or two.

P.S. Where have you been? :-)

this whole story leaves me flat. I think Rachel felt the same way

To #4 # 14 # 71
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To Bernie Simon
It is very very unfortunate that the doctors accidently amputated your gonads. Might as well and go all the way now and start using estrogen as your drug of choice.

#41 - Iowahawk

Excellent dark one liner.

Reminds me of "If Teddy Kennedy had only been driving a Volkswagon he'd be President" Or, "When a drunk hits a concrete bridge abutment head on at 80 mph strength of human viability cedes to the laws of classic Newtonian physics.

#70 -Amy

'Fraid Amy is on mark. Not deliberate. An accident. I've seen Army armored bulldozers, even sat in one...and the visibility is not good.

Hopefully other bleeding heart airheads will understand this.

To other posters that anticipate the wailing of liberals over this "young, beautiful, caring American saint" - while ignoring American civilians murdered by Pal terrorists inside Israel proper....you are correct..it has already happened on Lefty sites that have messages mourning her loss, while never saying squat about suicide bombings that have killed Americans in Israel. Nor are human shields riding Israeli buses....because the Left are two-faced hypocrites.

*******

Hopefully this will have a saluatory effect on other deranged radical liberals. If not....other than her parent's grief and the radical Muslims semi-rational belief that losing a woman of breeding age is tragedy in any culture that seeks to match or mitigate the spawn of rival nations or cultures.....Ta-ta Rachel Corrie!!!!.....And, you are already officially submitted to the Darwin Awards. (To Rachel in the Great Beyond----To spare your parents further grief, lets hope that the Human Shields come through so they don't hear that you got a Final Darwin Award).

#78
my daughter's school mates mommy is the head boarder control cop at Ben Groin... she says they have these morons getting off of planes, and walking arm in arm , linked , to the custom control area... needless to say, they get a quick trip back to where they came from. they still manage to crawl in , however , under the cracks, like roaches.
now I wonder,,, when the 20 bus blew up two blocks away, and when the supermarket here in quirat yovel blew up, how come non of these sterling individuals came to comfort the kids around here or to protest the vbarbarity of the acts??
I am a very sympathetic woman, but I feel absolutely nothing but disgust for t this person , her mission, and nothing at all regarding her death.

Never take a knife to a gun fight.

Besides
(not relishing what her relatives are going through right now)
Anyone who tries to stop 50 or so tons of machinery with their body is likely not a member of the genetic gene pool that the vast majority of us belong.
Of her demise, I think that they call it divine attrition.

#93 Ranbutan

Are you drunk?

Where's the "population warfare" and "radical Jewish colonist" stuff?

Nah, you're pretty much on the money tonight.

آمل أنّك جميعًا تموت في الطّرق البشعة بالتّسا& #1608;ي . على الأقلّ كانت راغبةً أن تموت لقضيّته& #1575;, بخلاف أنت تبكي الجبانو& #1606; الذين يمكن أن يتكلّمو& #1575; بوضوح فقط خلال الإنترن& #1578; . أنت جميعًا تثير اشمئزاز& #1606;ي .

Please, do not answer Rantbutton rant above (#93). As long as he gets attention, he'll keep this shit up and pollute thread after thread after thread. Remember, freedom of speech doesn't mean we have to listen.

If you want to know why you should not answer him, check this thread.

Keep also in mind that as long as nobody answers the Rantbutton rants, they can be deleted without changing the thread.

Thank you

My Arabic is a little iffy, but I think it says:

pangapoufngapiugawrpg adpvbiunaprgnapriu apriung apfbapfdjnbap a paiub apbvnaiudhgarpjg augpafibgapribugar

Or something to that effect.

you know, i think that arabic says:
"you stupid americans should kill yourselves"
hmmm...

#98

You mean:

آمل أنّك جميعًا تموت في الطّرق البشعة بالتّسا& #1608;ي . على الأقلّ كانت راغبةً أن تموت لقضيّته& #1575;, بخلاف أنت تبكي الجباني& #1606; الذين يمكن أن يتكلّمو& #1575; بوضوح فقط خلال الإنترن& #1578; . أنت جميعًا تثير اشمئزاز& #1610; .

dennisw has it right.

As far as the girl who committed suicide by IDF bulldozer....

It's sad for her family and maybe her friends (if she had any real ones) that she died this way. even so, considering that she gave her life for the enemy, i would not allow her what's left of her body back into the country for burial on our soil. in fact, if i could, i'd like to see her buried in pig skin on the west bank.

I heard that Rachel Corrie was really upset about the destruction of terrorists' homes. In fact, she was crushed.

Colt (#100)

LOL!

#102 Caton,

Care to translate both #98, and your response? I might could puzzle it out if it were in German or Russian, but I can't read the chicken tracks :-)

#105 kid charlemagne

LOL

Jebus, that's wonderful!

#106 zulubaby

*bows*

Has no one ever hit a pedestrian while driving a car? Road accidents happen for dozens of reasons. I'm sure the soldier feels terrible, like any other reasonable person who kills a fellow human being - no matter how deluded or reckless that human being might have been.

The article didn't didn't identify the soldier driving the dozer (for obvious reasons). There is a reasonable possibility that the driver was a middle-aged American immigrant himself. Many 'olim' serve in the Combat Engineers after serving the minimum 4 months basic training. I also went that route.

#107 Iron Fist

They're both saying the same thing. I just corrected three mispelling and a grammar error, that's all.

#98

إسرائيل ستسود، العالم الإسلام& #1610; سينهار

(For everyone else: "Israel will prevail, the Islamic world will crumble!")

Aaaah, I get it, #98 is trolling. How quaint.

Janeann Garafalo masturbating for a week

Why did you have to put that image into my head??!

لن ينتهي العالم الإسلام& #1610;ّ أبدًا . ينتشر يوميًّا و سيستمرّ إلى . سأصلّي أنّك ستنضمّ بالإسلا& #1605;, لأنّ أيّ طريقة أخرى هي أكذوبة . أيضًا سأصلّي أن إسرائيل ستُدَمّ& #1614;ر لأنهم منتهكون حقوق الإنسان الهامّو& #1606; للعالم . يترجم المهر, من فضلك للبله .

My favorite media report was on CNN Headline News channel:

Amercan woman caught under bulldozer

Nice catch.

#114

Your grammar stinks. Go back to school.

Extraterrestrials? Anyone have an idea about that?

I guess I was wrong; cosmic justice does exist. I owe God an apology.

ثاتس لطيف . و كمّ اللّغات تستطيع أنت قرأ, يكتب و يتكلّم # 116 ؟

olool bloody spellchecker,, that was meant to " Ben Gurion,," in my last post... Dont i feel silly.......

.............and i have translated no. 98's arabic,, i want to tell him confidentially, that no one here is interested in his mother or sister in that way, and that he can be arrested for saying those things to young boys,,,,,,,,,,,, yaaaaaaaaaa-allllah , habibi!

#119

Your grammar still stinks, and now your spelling sucks, too. ثاتس is not in the dictionary.

# 120 أنت كغبيّ كأنت أمريكيّ

أفترض أن يجيب سؤالي ثمّ, أنت طفل عفويّ

#122

كأنت is misspelled again. You probably mean كانت

Wow, I'm so less than upset about this.

And what's up with the one writer posting in Arabic? Most people in the world don't speak dead languages.

#124 do you know what he's saying? 'cuz i can't figure it out

#126 wait

Nope, I don't have the faintest idea. I don't speak Arabic.

sorry caton, but so far i think that he's calling you a child who is slow, or a young moron or something. wow...thats pretty rude, huh?!

ive translated no 122 , for everyone.,,, he just wants evryone to know how much he admires Sharon, (and is musing as to how yasserr produced his offspring if he is as d*****ss as he acts.
yes, Habub, we are all wondering that too,

#128 wait

Not really. Arabs have no idea how to be rude. Not their fault, really, what with farting in beards and cursing moustache... it's a whole retard culture, you know.

Caton#127
LOFuckingL

#129 actually lizzy, i think that he said that you are as stupid as you are american.

Caton,

You're having too much fun.

#133 addison

Huh... I thought nobody would notice...

#130 caton
sorry, now i'm being slow. what do you mean "farting in beards"? just wondering, i don't get it

Here is a link to the so-called ANSWER's website page which has the picture captioned, "US Citizen burns US Flag in demo in Gaza Strip - (REUTERS/RaduSigheti)".

[Link: www.internationalanswer.org...]

Many other pictures of other fools and idiots on that page as well.

From looking at the various pictures of Corrie/Corey, including the undated file photo, it looks to me that it is Corrie burning the improvised American flag on Feb. 15: skin coloring, hair coloring, nose shape, size of mouth, eyebrow shape/size and eye size.

Also, as others have pointed out on this thread:

Corrie was an activist in the so called, "Olympia Movement for Justice and Peace", which has a strong following at Corrie's school, Evergreen State College. OMJP's own website strongly hints that the picture is of one of their own.

#135 wait

Standard Arab insult.

Death by bulldozer. How unique. Guess she'll be in the heavy equipment category of leftist martyrs.

122,,,I' ll tell you again.. NO ONE is interested in purchasing your mother or sister for a night of "ecstasy",, wrong blog! jeeeeeeeeezh!
and no, you cannot purchase an night with a donkey skilled the act of love here either,,,
PLEASE STOP BUGGING US, YA AHBEL IBN KELB!!!!

got it, thanks

OLOLOLOLOL
eziiiii idiot! attah coshev she ani americayit, ya charrah?
tov, me ha idiot po?
rofl

soory,,, the arabaushka is too amusing. goodnight folks...

Are...

(#122) ت الأمريك& #1610;ّون الأغبيا& #1569; ينبغي أن يقتلوا أنفسكما and wait the same person?

I've translated a bit here. The translation site only allows one translation before demanding $$$. But here is an arabic dictionary link although apparently many spelling errors in the text. But you can catch the drift from the stuff i've translated.

#93

Again Caton, DON'T initiate a SPAM war. I don't care how proud you are of your macro key and how you wish to SPAM me after any message I post on LGF.

It is rude and inconsiderate, not only to me, but to other readers who probably appreciate your SPAM initiation efforts as much as they appreciate the boilerplate counter SPAM I am tempted to apply as universally as a consequence to your SPAM attack.

Readers and contributors wish to hear ideas...vigorous debate....not wade through tedious bandwidth wasting personal SPAM attacks

#143
sorry but i just took it for a few years in school instead of taking french or italian. besides the fact that i'm female.

This woman sided with the people who danced in the streets on 9/11.
The world is a better place with her death.
Good bye, dumb ****.
Enjoy oblivion.

I know what it says. All you have to do is hold it up in front of a mirror and see that he just wants to know if chewing gum loses its favor on the bedpost overnight.
I think he's lost.

the name of our arabic friend in #119 and #122 is

ت الأمريك& #1610;ّون الأغبيا& #1569; ينبغي أن يقتلوا أنفسكما = "you stupid americans should kill [your]selves"

nice name.

whoa!!! #148 i totally agree with you. but come on, must we resort to the c*** word?

Just a thought...
Am I the only one who finds deliriously funny the Rantbutton concerns about rudeness, not being considerate, and -- the irony -- wasting bandwidth? :-)

Any information on where our Arabic friend is posting from?

ugh didn't see #101.

#151 no, you're not. I find it pretty amusing that Ranbuchanan has an almost pathological fear of being ignored. That's why your posts hit the sweet spot.

#152 Dekalb, Illinois

#150
I thought bitch was to complimentary

Well, the Left will try to add this dopey chick to its' pantheon of heroes, but let's face it - getting run over by a bulldozer lacks glamor. It's like getting trampled to death by a lone dairy cow - or getting brained by a toliet thrown by an angry Palestinian, for that matter.

Sorry, but I so do not care about this particular numbskull's death. I'm much more concerned about our boys in Kuwait and the innocent folks in Israel.

#90 Zulubaby,

You missed me? Awww, I'm flattered. As to where I've been, well, I've been busy (I'm an engineering senior at the Univ. of Arizona). I've been lurking every day, but haven't felt the urge to comment. The other reason that I've laid low is that I've still been recovering from the rhetorical smackdown I received the last time I tried to say something brilliant on these boards, February 8, 2003:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Honestly now, what could France and Germany be trying to hide? Would they be going to extremes like this over a few weapons? Over some dual-use equipment? Heck, anti-war protesters have been pounding us over the head with claims that we supplied the chemical weapons that Saddam used against the Kurds and the Iranians, and we haven't let it faze us. It seems to me that there can be only one thing that they could be so afraid of being uncovered, that they'd do almost anything to prevent it. It goes beyond merely knowing that Saddam has WMDs, or even knowing exactly where they are. It seems to me (and maybe I'm crazy), that the only thing that explains this behavior is that France and Germany not only know that Saddam has these weapons in vast quantities and even supplied the means to make them, but also that he is planning on passing them on to Al Qaeda, et al (or has already done so), and that it was on their order. That is to say, France and/or Germany have commissioned Saddam and his terrorist proxies to attack the United States covertly with WMDs so that as we atttempt to heal our wounds, our international stature is diminished and their's (France's really) is elevated. They may not fear mere discovery of their breaking the sanctions and smuggling in illegal goods, but actual incontrovertable proof of their clandestine act of war against us using Saddam and terror groups. It sounds insane, but I keep worrying that it may turn out to be something this horrible. I hope I'm wrong.

To see what I mean, read posts 132, 146, and 206. I was a bit demoralized after being named a member of the "tin foil hat" brigade, but...

I HAVE SINCE BEEN VINDICATED by no less than Michael Ledeen himself, one of the patron saints of LGF, and the author of our favorite phrase 'round these parts, "Faster, please."

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

Assume, for a moment, that the French and the Germans aren't thwarting us out of pique, but by design, long-term design. Then look at the world again, and see if there's evidence of such a design. Like everyone else, the French and the Germans saw that the defeat of the Soviet Empire projected the United States into the rare, almost unique position of a global hyperpower, a country so strong in every measurable element that no other nation could possibly resist its will. The "new Europe" had been designed to carve out a limited autonomy for the old continent, a balance-point between the Americans and the Soviets. But once the Soviets were gone, and the Red Army melted down, the European Union was reduced to a combination theme park and free-trade zone. Some foolish American professors and doltish politicians might say — and even believe — that henceforth "power" would be defined in economic terms, and that military power would no longer count. But cynical Europeans know better.

They dreaded the establishment of an American empire, and they sought for a way to bring it down.

If you were the French president or the German chancellor, you might well have done the same.

How could it be done? No military operation could possibly defeat the United States, and no direct economic challenge could hope to succeed. That left politics and culture. And here there was a chance to turn America's vaunted openness at home and toleration abroad against the United States. So the French and the Germans struck a deal with radical Islam and with radical Arabs: You go after the United States, and we'll do everything we can to protect you, and we will do everything we can to weaken the Americans.

The Franco-German strategy was based on using Arab and Islamic extremism and terrorism as the weapon of choice, and the United Nations as the straitjacket for blocking a decisive response from the United States.

Please read the rest of it. To back up Ledeen's supposition, here's a quote from an article by John Eibner and Charles Jacobs, "'Old Europe' and Sudan's Jihad:"

[Link: www.boston.com...]

Why work against American policy? By the mid-1990s, Paris and Berlin had already laid the foundations for the cultural and economic integration of the EU with the Islamic states of North Africa and the Middle East. The expansion of Franco-German hegemony over an area that approximates the bounds of the Roman Empire would fulfill the ambition to counter America, the only remaining superpower.

If I am crazy, at least I'm not crazy all by myself!

#154 nik

Although Charles has not said anything, a number of commentors asked me to tone it down. So I will post the standard Rantbutton message only if he rants again. Of course, others are free to post it whenever they want :-)

#157 Brandi in AZ

I don't know if you're crazy, but I sure hope you're wrong -- or we are headed for a third world war.

Does anyone disagree or has life become so cheap that you really don't give a damn about a girl's life

Number 63 above.

Bernie -- you twit. The girl was an adult, age 23. She was a woman older than many of the soldiers who will go to war next week.

She was in a WAR ZONE. she knowingly, consciously, and deliberately, stepped in front of a WEAPON of WAR operated by a SOLDIER, and she died just as surely as she would have, if she had stepped in front of a 155mm howitzer.

Sympathy, why should I waste it on this person. There are plenty of people who deserve sympathy, but adults who go into war zones and take on armor with only the racist assumption that their lily white asses will protect them from all harm, are only deserving of scorn.

She consorted with our enemies and provided them aid and comfort. I say leave her corpse outside the city walls for the dogs to eat.

Brandi in AZ: like zulu, I've missed your comments and am glad to see your posts again. You, a member of the tin-foil hat brigade - never! Good luck with classes:-)

This whole incident reminds me of one that occured back when I was a high school lefty in the late eighties. A protester tried to stop a weapons train at a US base by sitting on the tracks. Lost his legs. I went to the candelight vigil. At the time I was appropriately outraged, but had a nagging feeling that anyone who does that sort of thing bears at least some of the responsibility for the outcome.

It is a tragedy in any case. I feel sorry for her family, and I feel sad that she had to die before she got the chance to grow up and get a clue.

What a waste.

kid charlemagne wrote:

Any information on where our Arabic friend is posting from?

Yes. He posted his comments from Dekalb, Illinois:

[Link: www.geobytes.com...]

Charles, in regard to your link in #38 here

I think the title of the piece, "Cultivating Sustainable Movements" would make a great Metamucil or Ex-Lax slogan.

Lizzy (#141),
although you're probably not here by now, I have to say: language, language...

#157

Sorry, Brandi, it's still tinfoil hat city: there's a difference between French calculation and an out-and-out conspiracy with Iraq/Al Qaeda. It's simply unfathomable that French would risk war with the US (this would be casus belli) on hopes that no captured Al Qaeda or Iraqi would blab about the whole deal. Or for that matter that someone in the French gov't wouldn't squeal to destroy Chirac politically.

All military people on this blog can aprreciate this mind set. Most military aren't the most PC people. But when people do stupid things, it usually gets the same response, "dumbass"

i first wrote lfg about the identity of rachel corrie. when i first read of the incident - i googled rachel corrie who was identified as from olympia, wa. this led me to the site of olympian for peace and justice ([Link: www.opme.org...]
then this led me to their picture gallery ([Link: www.omjp.org...] the caption for the gaza picture said, "Gaza (1)
(This picture from the International Answer website was titled "US Citizen burns US Flag in demo in Gaza Strip." Do you recognize anyone here?)"

I saw a fair complexioned red-haired american woman burning the american flag two weeks ago in Gaza. I wondered how many fair complexioned, red-haired american women from olympa
could be in gaza, burning an american flag and stupid enough to challenge an IDF bulldozer. Then I saw the picture of the woman in Ha'aretz. She was fair complexioned, red-haired. If you look at other features of her face - distance between eyes, contour of the nose and lips.
I concluded that the olympia woman in the reuters' pcture
(found on international answer) was rachel corrie killed resisting the IDF...

#154, #163: Well, it's nice to know our Arabic friend is in the heartland of America hoping for the death of all Americans. Makes you feel good about our immigration policy. I would say the F.B.I. should start scoping out DeKalb right about now, if isn't already doing so.

DeKalb, by the way, is the home of Northern Illinois University. This could be a student, or a "student".

Ha'aretz has a more complete account of the incident. It looks like what Rachel was doing was incredibly foolish, but those who posted that she was not seen are mistaken.

Where was that dhimini Adam Shapiro when you really wanted him around?

#167 reaganite

Usually it's a two-steps response.
1. "Dumbass"
2. "Oh well. Poor kid."

#167

Absolutely correct. About a month before I attended the School of Infantry at Camp Geiger NC, some student blew himself up on the grenade range. Apparently, he threw like a girl and the grenade didn't clear the wall. Instead, the grenade landed at his feet. In such circumstances, you are supposed to remain perfectly still; the instructor will yank you out of the pit. This guy dropped to the fetal position instead. The result? The instructor couldn't get him out of the pit, and he was badly injured. We were told this story as a cautionary tale. And, as Reaganite observed, he was, according to our instructors, a dumbass.
Also, people who shoot themselves on the rifle ranges are dumbasses (How many safety rule do you need to break to shoot yourself? All four.) As well as stupid girls who sit infront of armoured vehicles.

#170 Bernie Simon

Ha'aretz has an account of the incident only from one 'ISM activist'. Given Ha'aretz track record, I'll wait for the IDF statement.

#174 Caton
__________

Thanks for that info and ....... screw Ranbutan showing his ass tonite. This is slang for behaving like an idiot, showing his true nature.

Thanks, zulubaby. :-)

#175 dennisw

See this thread, the last few comments. Then this comment of his. Check the dates and times. Rantbutton must be a Pali, seeing how he keeps his word.

#173 Semper Fi
A RAF BD friend once told me a story from the Falklands war. His buddy (P1) put the rocket wrench on a Argentine bomb 3 times in the wrong direction. As the WW1 saying goes, third time's the charm. His third attempt killed him. Trying to type the accent he said "fooking twit"
On topic, when stupid people do stupid things, darwin rules.

#170 Bernie Simon is a pussy. Not only is he carless with his fact-checking, but he picks out the nastiest comments made on this thread and presents them on his weblog as statements made by the "sensitive souls at Little Green Footballs."

All this on a site that doesn't allow comments!

#170 from Haaretz: The ISM is an international pacifist movement that draws its inspiration from a quote by Albert Einstein

ROFL!!!!!!!! These geniuses take inspiration from Einstein. You just can't make this stuff up! Einstein must be rolling in his grave.

#178

My Platoon Sergeant told me story from a MOUT exercise he did once. They were clearing rooms with live grenades. Some idiot tosses a grenade into a room, then runs in after it. He didn't die, but he got pretty messed up. He got made fun of for years afterwards.

Here's where I get my inspiration:

"Only two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the former."

Albert Einstein

#179 Make that careless. I cannot confirm the rumors that he checks facts sans automobile.

I just checked out Indymedia.org. The cannonization has begun. Pretty soon stupid people all over the country will put up shrines to this girl. Stupid cab drivers will hang icons of her from their rearview mirrors. Stupid Mexicans will paint murals dedicated to her memory in the hoods of their El Caminos. Liberalism is a religion for these people. A religion without a moral or ethical component.

#181 Semper Fi

Huh... that's a joke. Nobody's that dumb!

But now that I think of it, I heard about something worse in the French army -- a conscript who tossed the pin. Dead.

#181 Semper Fi
I was involved in a MOUT exercise last fall, the lead guy tossed a grenade through a window, oops he missed, it landed at his feet. Lucky for him it was a practice round. He got burned on his ankle and had to buy rounds for the next 2 weeks. His radio call sign is now "smokey". EOD never lets mistakes go, I know guys who screwed up 15 years ago who still carry the radio call sign from the incident that branded them. By the way, in EOD your call sign is picked for you.

#186 reaganite

OK, so what's your call sign? :-)

#185

Huh... that's a joke. Nobody's that dumb

Excuse me! What about this girl

#188 Semper Fi

Point taken.

From the JPost (the bolds are mine):

In December 2001, 70 activists used their bodies to protect Palestinian Authority Chairman Yasser Arafat's Ramallah headquarters from IDF tanks. During last year's stand-off at the Church of the Nativity in Bethlehem, ISM members broke into the church to act as human shields for some 200 Palestinian terrorists hiding inside.

[NB: These people choose to protect the likes of the murderer Arafat and the merry band of terrorists who occupied, trashed and looted the Church of the Nativity and terrorized the people inside.]

Corrie, a senior at Evergreen State College, was the first member of the group to be killed in the conflict.

"Everyone involved in ISM is well aware of the risks," said Ghassan Andoni, 45, the group's Bethlehem co-founder. "People are asked to only join an action if they are comfortable with it."
Michael Shaike, media coordinator for ISM, said that Corrie was a wonderful girl and that everybody who knew her loved her. "She was trying to stop human rights violations in the Middle East," he said. "She came to the Middle East to help people and died trying to just that.

[Uh huh. Keeping Arafat and a bunch of terrorists from dying. Very noble. She wasn't very concerned about the Israelis' human right to live, though, was she?]

"Palestinians are murdered every day in the Gaza Strip; the only reason Rachel's death is covered by the media is that she was an American."

[NB: He uses the word "murdered" when referring to Palestinians while saying nothing about the men, women, children and babies murdered by terrorists. I guess they don't matter to him.]

#187 Caton
Asshole! You were supposed to give me a pass on this one! ;-)
Mine is "pillow" Mine's only 12 years old. During DS-1 I was playing around one day in Jahrah Kuwait. You know the propellant in arty shells? Long sticks of single base, well I lit a cigarette off one and tossed it onto what I thought was a pillow. Dumbass was an understatement. It was a bag of doublebase that flared in my face. BTW, my eyebrows grew back.

#191 reaganite

Well, any mistake you survive to tell about wasn't that bad, right?

IwuvLGF,

Sorry, Brandi, it's still tinfoil hat city: there's a difference between French calculation and an out-and-out conspiracy with Iraq/Al Qaeda. It's simply unfathomable that French would risk war with the US (this would be casus belli) on hopes that no captured Al Qaeda or Iraqi would blab about the whole deal. Or for that matter that someone in the French gov't wouldn't squeal to destroy Chirac politically.

I agree that the case is tenuous at best, and ridiculous at worse, but, after we get into Iraq and get a look at the records, if we see something like my theory fleshed out, I will be saddened, but not shocked.

#192 Caton
I think I may lead a charmed life, I've made more than my share yet I'm still here. I have a few extra parts but I'm alive. Can't ask for more than that.

#177 CATON
____________
Ranbutan crud with a slightly new twist.

#194 reaganite

I know what you mean. Left a lung in Lebanon, part of a leg in Iraq, and I think I've been pretty lucky on the whole.

I've taken the liberty of copying these comments as fine exemplars of compassionate Judaism to ship on off to this young woman's local paper back home.

What? What's that you say? These are not statements of your fervent belief in fairness and justice? Oh, I see...fairness and justice are only related to the tragedies of Jews?

That's not the Judaism I know. That's an extremist brand of Zionista nonsense that is dragging America and the world to a manufactured war. All for Israel. Let's all shed our blood for Israel. Let's spend our hard-earned taxpayer dollar on Israel. Let's not have universal health insurance - because we need to fund Israel's Bantustan Apartheid system of warmongering.

What? What's that you say? Israel has one of the best health systems in the world and it's a universal system? Well, fuck that...Israeli's deserve it. They suffer like NOBODY. Cough up the dough, America...pay up. Israel deserves your blood and money.

They deserve it while they kill girls like Corey and Pali kids who walk to school. They deserve it while they mow down refugee camps. Refugee camps...

The Israelis have world opinion turned against them right now. Have you noticed?

It's a shame because the machine running the Israeli campaign to violence and war are the Zionists.

But..America is getting smart and thanks to some life in a normally sleeping media, they are hearing news they're not liking about Zionists.

Don't be surprised if Israel's funding gets cut. Don't be surprised if Americans...not whored politicians...but Americans turn their back on the good people of Israel.

It would be a shame, really...because the lunatics and racists and Zionist whining trash don't represent the whole of Israel.

They're just leading them to Armageddon.

#195 dennisw

He seems to spend less time ranting lately.

But I'd sure like to know if he's really Michael Kennedy. More personal retaliation would be sooo easy...

#197

GAZE

The first report I heard this morning on FOX news, just shortly after it happened stated that she ran toward the bull dozer from the side shouting, and approaching it, fell and was crushed. She was not sitting in front, not standing in front, she came out of the crowd. The driver had no way to see her, and the noise of these machines makes it pretty hard to hear anyone saying, stop stop stop. I knew after hearing the report that it would change in nanoseconds to exactly what it has become.

Why would any parent allow their childern to go to the westbank anyhow. THe westbank makes the projects here in New Orleans and the ones in Oakland Cal look like boyscout camp. jeez. Next thing you just know the mother is going to sue the Israeli government. Hey? I'm starting to realize why the rest of the world hates Americans. Do-gooders stay home!

#196 Caton
And you still insist I have the dangerous job? I have all my fingers and toes. I have some metal parts I wasn't born with, and you still insist I'm nuts? Dude, your sort are more then I'll ever be.

Lisa - are you from the Department for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice?

Very interesting editorial in the NY Daily News about who's organizing and financing the "Not in My Name" group and other "anti-war protesters" -

[Link: www.nypost.com...]

Our friend Sami al Arian's name pops up.
Why doesn't this surprise me?

Enough about Ranbutan. If he starts his shit again, fine. He seems to have taken it down a notch. Let's talk about something else. Like #197, a real troll.

#201 reaganite

Hey, both were my mistakes. I knew I was taking a risk, and that's it. But poking unexploded ordnance that's just waiting to explode... No way!

#197 lisa
Got anymore of what you're on? I need a buzz. Sounds like you're taking some pretty good shit!

"Ha Ha"

-Nelson Muntz

#204 zulubaby

From the tone of the post, I think #197 is a "hit & run" troll.

Maybe I should hire a bull dozer for the next pro-Saddam rally.

Re #197 - She obviously didn't bother to read #190, which exposes these "peaceful protesters" for what they really are - apologists for and protectors of terrorists.

I'm an "extreme Zionista" and proud of it. Never again by any means necessary.

Ze'ev Jabotinsky was right.

#205 Caton

But poking unexploded ordnance that's just waiting to explode... No way!

I DO NOT poke! a prod or two, but never a poke!

#210 Amy

Huh... Jabozinsky was communist. Let's say 'half-right'.

#197

You are a stupid ****. For one, there are lots of reasons not to have a universal health care system; for one, socialism doesn't work, and we would merely kill the goose (corporate R&D) that lays the golden egg.

I am not Jewish, but I respect and admire Israel because it is an island of democracy and REASON in a sea of barbarism. Yes the Israeli's kill palis, the ones shooting at them and conspiring to kill them. Secondly, the very existance of human sheilds is a testament to the intrinsic decency of the Israeli's: these people know that the Israeli's will go out of their way to avoid civilian casualties. Do the Israeli's use human shield to defend them from Palis? NO, because the Palestinian strategy is to target CIVILIANS. But, honey, doll, when you insist on sitting in fron of a bulldozer, reap the fucking whirlwind.

One more thing, baby, the Israelis are wealthy not because of our aid, but because they are a free and democratic western society. Egypt get as much aid as Israel, but is a poor, backwards shit hole.

#211 reaganite

Prodding's just as bad. *shudder*

#197 please use the word 'Zionist' properly.

zionism

n : a policy for establishing and developing a national homeland for Jews in Palestine

People who think that Israel has a right to exist generally consider themselves 'Zionists.' All Israeli Jewish parties are Zionist parties.

Ignorant ****.

# 203
Great post Amy!!!
Got any more??

We can offer our sympathy to the family, and I do. However. Standing in front of a Bulldozer in what amounts to a combat zone trying to do a Tienanmen square stare down is just plain silly.

Findlay a peace activist that I can respect, in other news Asshole peace Nick 0 Bulldozer 2, Film at 11.

#1 site for the Darwin awardIF this girl wasn't white, she would be perfect as their poster girl. They might make an exception? Actually, this is one of the scariest sites around. I check it once a year to see if it went away yet.

more from the "electronic intifada" page and the international solidarity movement. so quick to canonize...

the propagandists were able to get pictures and webstory up very quickly, see
[Link: electronicIntifada.net...]

from the pictures - some questions are raised.

whether the pictures are from the day of the accident or misidentified.

whether this was a staged event for camera?

the minimal injuries photographed lead to the question why were they fatal?

the picture of corrie (allegedly) under an x-ray machine - without an IV, without oxygen, without heart monitor leads. if she had died from "chest injuries" the lack of monitoring/oxygen/IV is shocking evidence of medical negligence and malfeasance on the part of the Gaza Medical services.

Remember, people:
DO NOT FEED THE TROLLS

Remember to GAZE.

Caton #212 -

Well, Ze'ev's heart was in the right place. I have the two-volume Schechtman biography (1956) which is now pretty much unobtainable.

lassie #216 -

Not at the moment, but I'm always on the prowl. ;-)

#214 Caton
Let's put it this way. You know what to do in a fire fight. You know the risks and you know if you do the right thing it's all cool. But you have the random measure of the guy you didn't see. Me on the other hand, I know what my problem is. We have some great remote tools. If I decide as the team daddy that I don't like the SITREP, I can always back off and BIP. You sir, don't always have that choice. A Fireman is by far crazier then I am.

Oh, Lisa, if you didn't get enough quotes, here's one more: I'd have run that stupid bitch over myself if I could have. She deserved to die for the evil she was bringing into the world. Have a nice day!

Correction on #203 - It's from the NY Post, not the Daily News.

I am in the construction business. I own a deck building company and a home building co. As such, I have operated a lot of heavy machinery. I have never operated a D-9, though. The largest dozer I have used is equiv. to a D-6 size. I have seen D9s in action and they are HUGE.

It is EXTREMELY difficult to see in front of the blade. Experienced dozer operators (not me) get "a feel" for what is going on in front of the blade. This "feel" pertains to how the earth, rubble etc. is pushing against the blade. For the most part, they can't see what is going on with their eyes. I have no doubt that this operator did not see this "human shield".

As far as screaming for him to stop goes... you probably couldn't hear a train's horn while operating a D9

#218

Holy shit, that is frightening! Those people are nuts. "Mexican American Assaulted by Flag Waving Bigots"!? This site should be the poster child for major immigration reform.

Aside to Ranbutan:

If you ever call me or anyone else on this board a "zionnazi" again, so help me I will stick my stiletto heel in your eye. And that's after I kick you in the balls. Understood, mon cherie?

#76, how about this one?

On 14th February, Rafah activists received word that two men were trapped or possibly killed in tunnels beneath the Block O area on the night of 13th February. After witnessing the continued presence of a large machine drilling holes into the ground on the border strip, witnesses also observed ground-shaking underground explosions. Activists concluded that the tunnels had collapsed due to Israeli occupation force anti-tunnel activity.

so the terrorists are digging tunnels now, and when they get themselves buried, it's the "Israeli Occupation Force Anti-Tunnel Activity(TM)"

If I hear the word "refugee camp" one more time, I'm reaching for my (imaginary) gun.

Lisa, you probably would have thanked Hitler for graciously providing chamber music at Auschwitz.

#221 Amy

You're lucky. The Schechtman biography is impossible to find in France.

You probably know the story of Abraham Polonski, the founder of the French Jewish resistance army Yad Hasaka, and how he refused a French medal because he wasn't fighting for France? He was one of the biggest Jabotinski fans -- but not a commie.

This woman is naive, and is also flat-out wrong.
 

Bob

Where did you find that article?

at a jobsite in brooklyn a couple of years ago, some guys were hosing down a concrete cruncher (for lack of the correct term) - anyways one of the guys got his jacket caught in the machine and was chewed up and killed. for whatever reason the OE didn't hear the screams and the kill switch could not be reached. my point is this piece of garbage had no intention of "committing suicide by IDF", she and her ilk while that stupid are not that selfless; she was assuming that the dozer operator wd see her and stop. bad assumption - dozers are noisy and have huge blind spots.

i have zero sympathy for her or for her cohorts. as far as i'm concerned these schmucks should be told not to come to Israel and if you do you will be arrested and spend time in jail.

let me reiterate - the death of a thousand of these scumbags does not equal the death of one person murdered on 9/11 or by homicide bombers - fuck them all.

Does this mean that her family gets $20,000 (or whatever the going rate is for a 'martyr' this month)? And does she get 72 virgins on entry to paradise?

I'm sorry for her family, but what an idiot. Not to mention traitor.

#219 What I see immediately is that there are 2 totally different bulldozers, unless they can change color and design each time a picture is taken.

#157 Brandi,

You missed this by Steven Den Beste. If you are crazy, you are in good company.

Like you, I have no idea how far French perfidy goes, but the only thing that would surprise me is if they initiated a global nuclear exchange (I'm not even sure if the French could hit us. They'd be nuts to actually do so).

The best thing to do when someone calls you crazy is to whip out your switchblade, clean your nails for 30 seconds or so, and then look them in the eye and ask "And your point is?"

They usually shut up. Funny, isn't it?

#235. YOU ARE CORRECT.

Specifically, look at the lights on the bulldozer. One set is ATOP the cab and one is below.

Nice try you freaks at ei.

#219 endnprbiasnow

Staged event -- went wrong. Poor dumb kid.

#222 reaganite

Let's put it this way. Your job scares me. My job scares you. I think this could explain how we ended up in our respective jobs.

OTOH, you're right, I was a crazy young fool (I'm a crazy old fool now). Which doesn't mean you aren't crazy :-)

He didn't die, but he got pretty messed up. He got made fun of for years afterwards.

That is SO insensitive, making fun of someone's suffering like that.

{sarcasm off}
{hysterical laughter on}

Hey Reaganite,

I sent you an email... I need some assualt rifle advice :)

#236 Iron Fist

clean your nails for 30 seconds or so, and then look them in the eye and ask "And your point is?"

Is that why Caton thinks I'm crazy? BTW, my switchblade is issue!

#237 RightIsRight

There were 2 bulls and a tank, according to Ha'aretz.

Staged event -- went wrong. Poor dumb kid.

Yes dear #197 Israel leads the pack in technology. And naturally someone like you would use the comments of admitted non-Jews and present them as Jewish sentiments. At least you admit you lie and use low life tatics. And it will catch up to you later. What you reap is what you sow.

#241 reaganite

Is that why Caton thinks I'm crazy? BTW, my switchblade is issue!

Now, cleaning nails with a K-Bar is normal. A switchblade? Crazy!

#241 reganite,

Nope. As I read it, Caton thinks you're crazy because you poke things that go boom with yuor switchblade.

Me, I'm just crazy. I tend to poke things that go "Ow!" with mine :-)

#238 Caton
So far, IF you are older then me, it's not by much. BTW, when I jumped out of perfectly good airplanes, it was for fun, not war. And I'm only crazy to abnormal people! ;-)~

#235 Teacake

Changing paint I can understand - Ford has that paint, it's called Mystique, I'm just confused as to how those crazy Zionists changed the whole landscape in the background - they must have been bulldozing the whole city and rebuilding it in a different way the whole time - that's amazing!

RightisRight, good point on the lights too.

[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

Now dammit, you two aren't allowed to gang up on me! Since when are sharp end of the spear people allowed to call support crazy?

Since there are no photos of the actual accident in progress, are you guys suggesting that she died some other way and since they had already posed for the pictures earlier to be used for some other propagnada, used this scenario because it is handy? Could someone have murdered her and now blame the bulldozers?

#246 reaganite

1960. You?

#249 reaganite

Now dammit, you two aren't allowed to gang up on me! Since when are sharp end of the spear people allowed to call support crazy?

Since support started poking thing that go Boom! with an issue switchblade.

ABC news showed video of the stupid dead woman claiming that the houses had no connection to terrorism.
They did not show video of the victums of the terrorist
who lived in the house, one wonders if they even asked
who he was and what he did etc.

Oh and I had a German medical student penpal I meet
in Key West many yearrs ago. She was studying
medicine in South Africa, said the training was better than in Germany. She did an internship in Israel, some of the
patients were in a prision ward were they were chained to the bed. I don't have the letter handy, I assume as I did then that some of the prisoners were arab. That is the Jewish Israel I know, giving medical care to its enemies.
Tell me how many Jews in Arab hospitals? 50+ years in the West Bank and millions of EU and Saudi dollars and
yet they seem o want to go to Jewish run hospitals
inside israel to deliver their babies etc.

Lisa  3/16/2003 05:40PM PST
I've taken the liberty of copying these comments as fine exemplars of compassionate Judaism to ship on off to this young woman's local paper back home.

Oh and Israel has the best doctors and experts on artificial limbs and rehabilitatiion from being shot and
blown up. Quess why.

Aren't you worried the Jews who run the media won't run your story?

Maybe you are new here. I'm piglet and I have been to the West Bank and visited a Palestinian university and settlers homes. Have you?

To quote Golda Meir, "People like to say nice things about Jews after they are dead, we will not die just so people can say nice things about us.

#250 Teacake

I don't think anybody's saying that, what it does bring into question are the circumstances around the event - was she standing there with a bullhorn and far enough away so that the driver could see her - I seriously doubt it.

david (#248)

I'm re-posting that 'photo because those slideshows move and that picture will change. I learnt my lesson the hard way :-)

#250 Teacake

Since there are no photos of the actual accident in progress, are you guys suggesting that she died some other way and since they had already posed for the pictures earlier to be used for some other propagnada, used this scenario because it is handy? Could someone have murdered her and now blame the bulldozers?

Not exactly. What I'm saying is that the presence of cameras indicate a staged event, one in which the Palis wanted something to go wrong in front of the press.

There's also something else... she doesn't seem so badly wounded. A good doctor in a decent hospital would probably have saved her. The decision to go to a Pali hospital is what killed that dumb kid, I think.

#254 zulubaby

In all my previous posts, read 'dumb bitch' instead of 'dumb kid'. Thank you.

#251 Caton
Jan 62. So you got me by a little.

Since support started poking thing that go Boom! with an issue switchblade

It's made of titanium, low mu and all that, but it is sharp! But I do have to raise the BS flag. Give me a break, 99% of the time I'm there after the battle.

Anybody want to bet that Lisa # 197 in addition to being a raging anti-semite, is in fact an overweight male palestinian who sits at his computer naked and when not tapping out his anti-zionist screeds is using a webcam to expose his hairy body to underage boys in Playstation chatrooms?

His twisted rant is indicative of the moral perversion and hypocrisy of a child molester who is angry at having been recently profiled on "America's Most Wanted".

Look Habib, aka "Lisa", take your pudgy, evil, Satan worshipping ass and take it over to jihad.net where it is wanted.

Yes, we understand that you would like nothing better than to see America's strong allies destroyed, but hear me know and listen to the thud of the bombs falling shortly: it is your evil Arab compatriots who hide behind Islam and proclaim murder in the name of your shared demons against the free peoples of the world that are about to feel the wrath of a focused and determined America.

#257 reaganite

Well, my job was to be there before the battle, and 99% of the time leave before it started. MBTs are ugly, smelly, noisy, and unfriendly.

But, OK, I'll give you a break. :-)

# 225
You are ever correct about the dozer. I have operated most of them including the new "high track" models and it is very difficult to see in front of you. And yes, we do go by feel but we are talking about tons of material here and a human body would NOT be felt AT ALL. To compound it all, the dozers of the IDF are armor plated and heavily shielded. Their sight is greatly diminished. It looks as if tunnel vision would become a reality.
BTW.....A D-9 weighs about 250,000 pounds but with the armor it must weigh much more.

#233 h-man
The word is crusher. I have seen crushers that will take 1 inch rebar along with the concrete and twist it into balls

Anything is possible. There are about 7 different versions of the story and in all of the pictures, I don't see any freshly bulldozed buildings, don't see any dust from bulldozer activity, we see various bulldozers in various locations, we don't see the actual accident take place, don't see anyone in the driver seat of the bulldozers, and the only visable people at the site are the handful of people posing for the pictures. And you are right, her injury doesn't look that serious either. I think I smell a rat and a big fat phony story.

#254 Zulubaby -

Is that an INTENSE facial expression, or what? Wonder what she was doing on Ashura-Muharram.

Ah, those peaceful peaceniks.

Wonder if she's related to that Beirut Starbucks idiot?

#252 - ABC news showed video of the stupid dead woman claiming that the houses had no connection to terrorism.

I'm assuming those remarks were made while she was still alive? :)

#259 Caton
My experience with MBT's is the venerable M-60. We had them during the cold war as a MARV-SMUD platform. Personally, I'd rather have a 114 or 113, better get away vehicles. Funny how a MBT is out of it's element when the range of fire is in the urban environment.

#248

The caption indicates that she died "while trying to stop a bulldozer from tearing down a Palestinian physician's home."

Interesting. Of course the house came down because he is a suspected militant, not because he is a doctor.

So many terrorists are from well-off backgrounds, which in the U.S. is often associated with apathy regarding the poor and disadvantaged. (Incorrectly, I'd argue.) The concept of "ummah" seems to go beyond healthy concern for one's community and into psychotic shame and psychopathic acts.

Waving at an IDF bulldozer does not generally result in the bulldozer stopping. Some months ago a deaf man died when his house collapsed atop him after his sisters told the bulldozer to stop. I still don't know why they didn't run in and try to pull him out (I would have; I hate to find myself questioning cultural moral equivalence vis-a-vis would you risk your life to save someone else's, but here I am). Nor do I know why anyone in the territories expects to be able to stop the bulldozers just by yelling at them to stop. I imagine they hear this everywhere, so situations where it actually matters - i.e. "someone's in the way" as opposed to "don't knock over my house, dammit" - yelling at a bulldozer operator to stop won't help much.

Interesting caption to this 'photo.

U.S. woman Rachel Corey, 23, is helped in vain at the Rafah hospital in the Southern Gaza Strip, March 16, 2003. An Israeli military bulldozer killed an American woman protesting the demolition of a house in the southern Gaza Strip on Sunday, Palestinian medical officials and witnesses said. The woman, identified as 23-year-old Corey, was lying on the ground in front of an army bulldozer when she was covered with large quantities of sand, Ali al-Shaar, a witness to the incident, told Reuters.

So she was lying on the ground in front of a bulldozer and expected them to see her?

#263 reaganite

True. A city at night, and raining -- that's the optimal environment for me. But I'll settle for fog if I can't have rain.

MBTs are handicapped in the mountains, too. Still, when tanks start playing, it's better to move out.

Looks like Photoshopped stuff to me.

But you know, I suspect that some people will want to be deceived by all this.

#265 zulubaby

So far, that's three different 'versions' from al-Reuters.

Israel has doen all these things in self-defense, but htye've been in self-defense mode, and making aggressive defensive moves, so long, that the world stage looks at the terrorism as a reaction, rather than the other way around.

I know I'm stating the obvious to all and sundry, but would one of you be kind enough to tell me at what point their self-defense started to get reported as attacks-- seems to me it was in the mid-80's.

#227 - Zulubaby...

Aside to Ranbutan:

If you ever call me or anyone else on this board a "zionnazi" again, so help me I will stick my stiletto heel in your eye. And that's after I kick you in the balls. Understood, mon cherie?

Rrrrrrrrrr!!!! Excuse me while I defend myself and tell you if you ever cared to rumble, you would be dragged off by your big hair to my cave to bear young, vie with the first wife for cast off game animal bones, and play on the cave computer.

As for current times...there are posters on LGF who argue that - like Germans, sacred tribal lands of the Volk (hebrew tribes) lie to the East and it is for Lebensraum (Greater Zion) that the unworthies must be expelled. That as one poster described ...nuking major Muslim cities or bombing dams to drown millions is a good "Final Solution" to assure Deutschland (Israel) ultimate safety and security. That the Arabs (Jews) are untermenshen (sons of pigs and monkeys).

So the parallels exist...and to argue that events 60 years ago far from Arab lands or the USA make bringing up the parallels unspeakable.....sorry, but the quirks of fate have led to not in any remote way exact..but still legitimate parallels. Two occupations, one orders of magnitude worse....but still comparable in the sense that both occupations have inflicted misery...and while the Israel occupation and Settlement is far less malignant...it is still somewhat malignant and has lasted for 35 years vs. the Nazi's 3 years. And, Arab outrage is not influenced by comebacks that Arabs have a moral duty to support an Israeli homeland as guilt for what happened in Europe.

So when I read a Zionist calling for massacring Arab villages as reprisals for suicide bombers, or sterilizing Arab women unwillingly to reverse demographics, Zionist fanatics calling for nuking every Arab city..especially Mecca while Israel still has the sole ME arsenal, or calling for bombing Arab dams to drown millions......how can that be characterized as "un-Nazi like"????

The Yahoo story here, which adds the fabrication about pouring dirt on her that zulubaby cited in a caption, also gives this in its second-to-last paragraph:

"A group of foreign volunteers have been operating in southern Gaza for months, trying to prevent the army from demolishing buildings, often by blocking bulldozers with their bodies."

Shit! I was sorry about this, thought that this girl was misguided but that her accidental death was unfortunate. But they've been asking for this, planning for this, knowing this would happen. That it didn't happen sooner is a credit to the IDF.

The organizers of her protest group are guilty of murder.

The fact that Corrie is called a "peace" activist is ludicrous and offensive. She was a terrorism activist. And it's a real surprise that more fatuous, pretentious, ignorant creeps like her haven't gotten themselves killed by now. They're like moths to a flame. Oh well, give them time---all the lights are going on this coming week.

#266 Caton
Every time I've been shot at it was an unhappy accident. Everytime I've shot at people it's because I was an easy target. I have never been in a pitched battle. I have been involved in small team stuff, but always as a sideline.The last time, a burst from the ma duce and a healthy foot on the gas pedal got me out of it. I'll take my job over yours any day.

Too bad Arafish's boyfriend Adam Shapiro cannot be killed in a "human Shield" incident.

#270 Rasputin

Or Rastafarian or whatever your name is, you really oughta cut back on the caffiene and herion.

#273 reaganite

The first time I was shot, I was too slow shooting a LAW. My fault. Still got the fuckers, though. The second time I was shot, it was 'friendly' fire from a British chopper. Couldn't even shoot back. As to how many times I did shoot at people -- no idea. Often.

Friendly fire isn't, by the way.

She assumed that the Israelis would be civilized enough not to run her over with the bulldozer as she dived under its treads. Such assumptions can not be made of the people she defended. Her death does not diminish me.

#269 James Taranto is my lovechild

If I had to pick a date, I would have to chose September 5, 1972, when the media found a new lovechild to support and nourish, the international community found a terrorist leader they just couldn't adore more, and liberal organizations found an eternal victim that acutally loved being the victim.

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Rule #1: Don't put yourself in the way of a rational human, and the hiding place of his people's murderers.

Also, I know of about a dozen bulldozer/earthmoving equipment fatalities at Washington state worksites in the past 5 years (in fact, I saw one at the Seattle Port Authority, Terminal 5). And that's under normal circumstances! That's without having to worry about people shooting at you from darkened windows, and without having fools who are actually *trying* to run in front of you...

The true villains in this piece are some "educators" in Olympia, WA like Steve Niva who "inspire" these folks to cast their pearls before swine. Taking risks for a worthless cause:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
[Link: palestinechronicle.com...]

Of course, at 23 years old, one is responsible for their own actions. But this death is no doubt tragic for her family. A sad but classic case of a useful idiot:

[Link: www.omjp.org...]

You may wish to write to WA legislators who actually pay Niva to encourage the state's students to put themselves in harms way, and let them know how you feel:

chase_ma@leg.wa.gov
cox_do@leg.wa.gov
dunn_ji@leg.wa.gov
eide_tr@leg.wa.gov
elainej@hecb.wa.gov
finkbein_bi@leg.wa.gov
fromhold_bi@leg.wa.gov
gombosky_je@leg.wa.gov
jarrett_fr@leg.wa.gov
kenney_ph@leg.wa.gov
kohl_je@leg.wa.gov
lantz_pa@leg.wa.gov
mcauliff_ro@leg.wa.gov
skinner_ma@leg.wa.gov

You can also contact the so-called "Deans" of Evergreen, the state school at which Niva "teaches":

bantzd@evergreen.edu
foxr@evergreen.edu
lyttlel@evergreen.edu
pougiale@evergreen.edu
pricebc@evergreen.edu
womeldor@evergreen.edu

Please, do not answer Rantbutton rant above (#270). As long as he gets attention, he'll keep this shit up and pollute thread after thread after thread. Remember, freedom of speech doesn't mean we have to listen.

If you want to know why you should not answer him, check this thread.

Keep also in mind that as long as nobody answers the Rantbutton rants, they can be deleted without changing the thread.

Thank you.

By the way, someone wants the name and home address of the Rantbutton?

#276 Caton
Pot, meet kettle. Dude, you have a lot of gall calling me crazy. But I do salute you.

#281 reaganite

Chutzpah. The word you're looking for is Chutzpah :-)

#279 Evergreen

The true villains in this piece are some "educators" in Olympia, WA like Steve Niva who "inspire" these folks to cast their pearls before swine.

Is there any way to bring those people in front of a court?