First!! BWHAHAHA

Um, remember everybody, we can't criticize him. He is only using Freedom of Speech!

Criticism is Censorship!!

Somebody needs his medication and a lot of rest.

I have the same free speech rights as he does...and I'm going to use those to call him a raving, diseased, dried-up old fruit.

According to our local 6pm NBC news in NYC, the official position of Columbia is that they won't take any action since he is just exercising his right to free speech. If I ever have kids, I'm sending them to trade school.

Send 'em down here to the North Avenue Trade School.

We're supposed to be even more conservative than BYU!

I dunno. It's kind of fun to watch these ageing hippies in their apopletic death-throes. Latest poll shows only 23% of registered voters (i.e., folks who care) questioned said they approved of the antiwar protests - i.e., for all their noise, the message is not only not getting through, it's being summarily rejected. So - hmm, just like Saddam does (did?), the shriller the invective, the more we know THEY know their days are numbered. Must bug the crap out of 'em. Reminds me of Moscow just before the Wall went down.

One of my college professors told me during gulf war I to move to Canada. I said why, I'm 21 and can now legally buy beer here.

He said that they were going to start drafting us young men. I reminded him that we had a volunteer armed force. He did not like my smartass commentary, and gave me a B in the class.

My point is that professors have been idiotarians since time-immemorial and they still have the power to fuck their students over. Sounds like this DiGenova is a prime exapmple.

He fits right in with Edward Said and the rest of the jihadi faculty there.

"But tomorrow, I don't want to see you in a room. I want to see you in the streets,

Cool. More speed bumps.

Really, I want them protesting as loudly and often as possible. If they stayed quiet someone might assume that they're smart, so I'm all for them appearing in a public forum and disproving that notion. All the kids want a megaphone, but what they should really wish for is to have something intelligent to say.

#8

Actually, Wanda Sykes had a better idea. They should be encouraged to protest in areas where there are problems with potholes.

Does anyone know of a statistic on what percentage of these idiotarians actually vote? I have never missed a primary, general election or local election.

OT or not... I just watched the NBC nightly news and they showed the scenes from inside the hospital at Nasiryah. The hospital is a ghastly torture chamber with loads of chemical weapon protection gear. A US issued (womans) BDU was found, apparently bloodstained and torn. The Iraqis had car batteries for torture nearby.

Curses on DeGenova's moustache, may a thousand camels crap on his putrid monkey soul.

It's almost that bad at my college. Yesterday I attended a so called "open forum" on the War in Iraq, which was in reality an America-hating, America-bashing, blame America for every ill in the world. We were first assaulted by the outrageous rant of a Palestanian student and ended with an Africian Muslim student telling us that "YOU are the Terrorists. You Americans are the terrorists!" If this wasn't bad enough most of the professors and students, all Americans cheered! The Muslim American Student Alliance advisor/instructor, with bold and outrageous happiness urged the students on in their hatred.

This is not just sad and rediculous, it is downright dangerous. This type of lunacy is contagious, and we have enough America haters in other countries without having them here. We need to let our leaders know in no uncertain terms that we don't want our kids taught this kind of crap. Demand the immediate expulsion of these left wing hate mongers. Freedom of speech does not guarantee the right to teach hate at our schools. I find myself more and more drawn to less gentle approaches to these fools. By the way, there was no such thing as a Palestinian before the 60's, they are all Arabs from other countries whose sole purpose is to rid the middle east of jews. Ancient homeland my ass, the Jewish faith is a thousand years older than Islam and Christianity is 500 years older. Both have legitemate claims to the area. If muslims could live in peace, they would be welcome too.

What makes this little scene of Pandaemonium even creepier is the realization that if he had called for the deaths of Muslims, Columbia would have immediately canned him.

#6 hca:

When I came to America, one of my professors called me a "race traitor" because I dared to tell him that I knew more about atrocities in Lebanon than he did, and my view conflicted with his. Then he started making fun of my accent. Later, I found that "race traitor" is a term used by white supremists also. White Supremists and Leftist Academics, same people, different places.

One other thing; I didn't drop his class. I stuck with it, and dropped his reputation. Scars speak louder than words.

I don't understand! These are scholars, people of means! If they despise this country so much why are they here?

I think there's a very deep hypochrisy here. I believe that these professors are at odds with their consciences in that they know they could not live these lives in other places, but don't have the courage to stand with those they profess to admire.

At heart, they have no will to sacrifice for their beliefs, and justify their staying in America by saying they are bringing truth to a younger generation.

But the longer they stay, the more students they see turn away from the indoctrination over time, and it reveals how empty and futile their justification is. The longer they stay, the more guilt they feel.

Just a theory. Dime store psychology, really.

I wonder how much of Columbia's budget is paid for by the "illegitimate" federal government?

I think these professors who think the administration is illegitimate should put their money where their mouth is and force Columbia to refuse all forms of federal funding. No federal research grants, no federal student loans for Columbia students, no tax-exempt status for donations to Columbia's endowment. That'll show Bush they mean business!

Have faith, everyone. These "academics" have little influence on the students that go into the real world after graduation. We can see that today. Don't worry. Just keep working for the cause, a peaceful Israel with Arab neighbors that are prosperous because they know that life is better when you love your neighbors as yourself. Some people need to die. It's sad, but middle eastern dictators and mad mullahs have a grip on their people. All we can do is keep focus. This is the battle of our lifetime, at test by the Great Architect of the Universe to see who is worthy to stand in his presence when our lives are done.

Islam is the ultimate biological weapon.

#17

I don't understand! These are scholars, people of means! If they despise this country so much why are they here?

for the same reason "deacon" comes here, they/he think by working the edges they can gain converts to their causes. it's part of the Communist manifesto - you gather by small numbers, eventually creating a critical mass.

All of the loonies from the 60's that had children indoctrinated those children, and they in turn will indoctrinate theirs. along the way you pick up the sragglers of society and co-opt them as well. THere is a system to it. And unlike you, they have something that's much more then an agenda, they have a MISSION

that Mission is to change the world, tear it down and remake it in their image, which they believe to be a perfect one.

Kudos for Albert Khouri!!!

You sir, are a hero in the defense of sanity.

If he wants 1 million mogadishu's - he wants 300 million dead Somalis. They had 300 deaths to our eighteen.
What's that 17 dead to our 1?

#14:

Actually, he DID call for the death of Muslims when he said he wished for "...a million Mogadishus."

The Muslim/US death toll there was something like 500:1, although if you called him on it, I'm sure he'd just start attacking you personally.

while at columbia about 10 years ago i took classes from a few of the professors discussed in the article and could only think... HAVE THEY LOST THEIR F-ING MINDS???!?!?!?!?!? i have fond memories of those classes, but now i wonder what the hell was going on...

Oops... looks like someone beat me to the punch... Rats.

Jinx Atoz LOL

#24

but now i wonder what the hell was going on...

Like I said, they work the edges.....................

Reminds me of the "teach-ins" of the 60s when I was a college student. The ones I attended quickly degenerated into Viet Cong pep rallies. Nothing has changed, the Left still hates the US (probably more than ever); the students cheer the most outrageous lies and distortions; the very word "teach-in" is a joke and a corruption of the language. Academia as agitprop.

Prof. De Genova preaches violence and mayhem then goes back to his office and sits on his tenured ass.

Prof. De Genova preaches violence and mayhem then goes back to his office and sits on his tenured ass.

Don't flatter him. He is not tenured. That makes it even worse if the Charm School doesn't shame him.

#21 Spiny:

I am flattered!

Marc Van de Mieroop of MEALAC said that war scares him because it is an excuse for the erosion of rights.

"I know that my phone is tapped, that e-mails are read, that mail is opened. I have the sense of unease, the loss of privacy, and also the fear to speak out, to write--will what I say tonight be held against me when I have to appear in court?"

What a bunch of morons. This student in an Ivy League school frets to a newspaper about his fear to speak out while at an anti-liberation kook fest.
Maybe they should be IV League schools because its hard to find much in the way of IQ there.

And just why are college students so brain dead when it comes to critical thinking abuot political topics?

Certainly one reason is that the indoctrination starts very early. Here's an article about how the little kiddies learn the benefits of pacifism in middle school, including one teacher who remarks, "There's never a good reason to fight." Oh, and don't forget to write to your Iraqi pen pal.

[Link: www.sfgate.com...]

#30 Phil

it's worse than you think - Marc Van de Mieroop is a PROFESSOR

#32 legs,
The first thing that popped into my mind when I read your post:

What a turd.

Instead of teaching for Columbia's anthropology department De Genova should be studied by their psychology department.

Znaught... IOU one. LOL

#30 phil

i should also have added that Van de Mieroop is not American by birth - i believe that he is Dutch. same with Hamid Dabashi, another professor mentioned in the article - he is from Iran originally. it makes their ranting all the more offensive to me, although less surprising, i guess...

#36 legs,
Maybe we should call them and their ilk pigs (short for piggybackers). They like the ride but are loathe to do any of the work that makes the U.S. such a great ride.

From the excellent NR piece by Matthew Continetti:

And political scientist Jack Snyder found room in his speech to compare the Bush administration with, in chronological order, Napoleon, Kaiser Wilhelm, Hitler, and Tojo.

Home of the Great Historian

This really sounds like a job for Alumni. If university presidents stopped getting checks from alumni and it was made obvious that it was thanks to idiots like De Genova then their might be some impact.

Not surprisingly, the typical college definition of an "open forum" on the war is equivilent to that of a school-sanctioned anti-war rally. There was recently one of these "open forums" at the school I go to (Bellevue Community College) which was nothing more than letting Bagdhad Jim McDermott speak for an hour. The speech even ended up getting some (inwanted) attention on Hannity and Colmes.

In response to #10.

I know how they vote. I lived with a environmentalist lesbian (nothing against them, but it is to show how left she was) who voted for Nader in the 2000 election. Then she whined because Bush won!!!

and #30.

"I know that my phone is tapped, that e-mails are read, that mail is opened. I have the sense of unease, the loss of privacy, and also the fear to speak out, to write--will what I say tonight be held against me when I have to appear in court?"

does this sound like a schizophrenic to anyone else?

After having read Matthew Continetti's article, I took a long breath and thought, " Not all the students are being brainwashed. There is still hope!"

Excellent article.

This is not simply a innocent "exchange of ideas". This is not just the dialogue of free speech. This is nothing but subversive and guess who is paying for it? Your tax dollars are hard at work against you when we let creeps like this go uncorrected.
Our sons and daughters are spilling their blood on foreign soil so we will not have to spill massive amounts of our blood here and we let these s.o.b.'s get away with this?????
Here is the link for the school where the Imam's friends are.

[Link: www.columbia.edu...]

Professor De Genova's email address is: npd18@columbia.edu

My message to him follows:

Professor De Genova,

If you indeed believe that the "only true heroes are
those who find ways to help defeat the U.S. military",
I highly encourage you to become one by taking up arms with Saddam Hussein's Fedayeen. Sadly, you will
undoubtedly remain safely in the United States,
protected by your First Amendment right of free
speech. Ironically, you would be tortured and
executed in Iraq for comments that called for the
defeat of Saddam's military.

Be very thankful that you have the right to say what
you will in this nation. Try, however, to remember
that your right of free speech was paid for in blood
by the American military that you so obviously loathe.

Hi Kids. I love reading your comments. It's good to know there are a few young people out there who haven't been indoctrinated by these cynical deluded and dangerous professors.

I was a student at Columbia University in the 60s (during which time the students closed the school down to protest the building of a gym). I remember wandering into an auditorium one day when they were showing film clips of the war. I was appalled to hear the students cheer when a US plane was shot down by the Viet Cong. I quickly left.

One big difference between then and today. The students hated America but the professors didn't. There was the generation gap in those days. So the anti-Americanism was confined to young, generally powerless people in transition--who within ten years or so were part of the "establishment."
Now you have the faculty teaching this insanity to the students, virtually promoting Communism, antisemitism, anti-Capitalism, revisionist history.. I'm not sure the students are going to "outgrow" it.

TO: npd18@columbia.edu (Nicolas De Genova)

CC: jls6@columbia.edu (Jack Snyder)
bollinger@columbia.edu (Lee Bollinger)
nbd7@columbia.edu
emm2103@columbia.edu
jjk2109@columbia.edu (Joseph Kennedy)
cavuto@foxnews.com (Neil Cavuto, FOX News)
ef17@columbia.edu
jsm9@columbia.edu (Alumni Federation)

SUBJECT: Columbia University is a disgrace - Thanks for your help

Dr. De Genova:

Your remarks at Columbia University, in which you called for the death of American service men and women, are so far beneath contempt that I will not repeat any part of them. The intellectual and moral depravity manifested by such utterances is quite beyond belief. As German academics surrendered their minds and their consciences to Nazi animals in the 1930s, so you have surrendered yourself to the contemporary forces of hatred, mindlessness, and intolerance. You have no excuse; you have no defense.

Some have suggested that your remarks were coldly received. Reports from Columbia students who witnessed your display indicate otherwise. I'm sure that you console yourself with the knowledge that many of your students and colleagues at Columbia hate the United States, and those who serve it, with as much irrational fanaticism as you do.

You must be very excited at the prospects that now face you. Thanks to the intellectual poison supplied by scholars like yourself, another American university harbors a new generation of warriors dedicated to hatred, social violence, anti-Americanism, anti-Semitism, and naked fascism. I'm sure you'll use them eagerly, if not wisely.

Glen Wishard

----> (Thanks to everybody who scouted for e-mail addresses)

I need to correct Michael Connetti's statement that it was an anti-war protest that took over Low Library et al in 1968 (and closed the school down).

Though the Vietnam War (which I also was against -but I was never pro-Viet Cong) was the underlying emotional climate for all student protests, it was not the immediate trigger for the big school takeover at Columbia in 1968.

Columbia had decided to use some land that it owned adjacent to the University to build a new gym. The students felt that the land should be donated to the community to be used as a park. (Columbia is-or was, I haven't lived in NY in many years-at the edge of Harlem). Thus the protest.
One day I was chatting with students in Chinese Calligraphy class and the next day they were yelling at me from the Administr. office windows, inviting me to come up and join them. I had never heard a peep of politics from them before.
The school shut down for the remainder of the semester and everyone was given automatic passing grades.

000PS. Mathew Continetti. Sorry I mangled your name in previous post. Thanks for your article.

Can anyone post the e-mail addresses of some top Columbia administrators?

I sure would like to let them know how I feel (after sending untold thousands of $$$ for my kid's degree)....

Maybe some other alums and relative will express their views, too.

to The Ramblin' Wreck: way to go! :-)

North Ave Trade School Class of '87 (MS ICS).

Well done Glenn Wishard! Very well-written indictment of this noxious traitor.

Ivy league educations are hideously over-rated and over priced. The professors at the "Teach In" seem to be teaching a bizarre sort of shop class, where it's young minds being machine tooled, milled, rolled, and stamped.

#47 - Completely OT tangent: The former Dean of the law school was talking about an alum cocktail party he went to in 1998. He was talking to a married couple trying to hit them up for some money. They started talking about the gym protest and how much fun they had during it. The man then proudly pronounced that the first time that they "made love" was during one of the rallies in the arms of the Alma Mater in front of Low Library.

Slightly OT: don't think that Columbia is entirely full of stupid nuts like the people who spoke at the "teach-in". Note the difference in number of signatories at Columbia Divest (107 faculty, 487 students) and Columbia Don't Divest (391 faculty, 1602 students).

What a disgrace. Freedom of speech or no freedom of speech, men like De Genova should have their balls cut off, a la "Fight Club."

Keep in mind that not all Ivy League professors are so stupid and so hateful. Here at Yale we had a "Teach-in" on Wednesday that was actually a real debate, with two liberals and two conservatives. (I'm surprised they called it a "Teach-in," because those are usually nothing more than socialist or communist rallies.)

Professors Charles Hill and Donald Kagan spoke eloquently about the need for military action in Iraq. Professor Hill said bluntly, "The UN has disgraced itself." Preach on, Father Hill.

Of course, Ivy League schools still have their problems. A recent poll suggested that THREE PERCENT of Ivy League professors were Republicans. The Ivys like to talk about diversity, but when it comes to diversity of political opinion among instructors--a sort of diversity that is important when it comes to teaching--the Ancient Eight are sorely lacking.

The students tend to come out all right, though. Keep in mind, President Bush is a Yalie.

A stunning post from Columbia Spectator Online:

[Link: www.columbiaspectator.com...]

"This is a civil war. The second American civil war. You only need to decide which side you are on. The Constitution and the People or the Butcher of the Beltway."

Edwin A. Pell III
edpell@bestweb.net
consultant
NY State

This is simply beyond belief.

Another opinion of this asshole ....from:

CULPA

CULPA CENSOR NOTE: The following review is obviously the opinion of the reviewer. S/he paraphases a statement made by the professsor in a larger context, which s/he feels sheds light on the teaching ability of the professor.]

I lost all respect for this man as an academic when he said this spring that Jews no longer have any claim to the heritage of the Holocaust because of Israeli policy towards Palestinians. While at first this seems like a personal attack on my part, it is an academic criticism, and here`s why. Professors are responsible for taking ideas and analyzing them, cutting them down to their roots and components, no matter how simple those ideas are at the surface. De Genova does the reverse: he takes the Mideast Conflict, a sophisticated topic by any standards (even those outspoken Palestinian advocates like Professor Massad) and simplifies it by comparing Israeli policy to Nazi policy. Furthermore, he does so despite the fact that he is not an expert in this area, but rather in Latin American studies. In my view, that makes de Genova an irresponsible and unsophisticated academic. I won`t take his classes now, but not because I don`t like him or even because I disagree with him, but because I don`t trust him to give me a complete, fully-analyzed picture of the issues.

Enter text descriptionCULPA

Targus -

Mr. Pell wants another Civil War? I wish the little dickweed would make up his mind. Look what he posted to Indymedia only a few days ago:

Saturday, May 4, RHINEBECK: There will be a weekly gathering for peace starting at 10 a.m. at the intersection of Rt. 9 and Rt. 308 at town center. Information, Ed Pell, (845) 266-3266, edpell@bestweb.net.

Did they hand out guns at this "peace" rally?

Maybe I'll have a Gettysburg party at my house. Mr. Pell can bring his whole Klan Klavern along, and a couple of Imperial Wizards too. My dog could take the whole bunch of them, I bet.

On to Richmond!

If general visible public opinion is purposely driven to antiagiession, then the chances of another homeland attack might be greatly reduced.
Also, the rats are making themselves known.

PS. I just saw on bbc. A Syran diplomat was shiting his pants. Im serious. His voice was shaking... and no it wasnt the lag.

Plans within plans.

Here's another post from this worthless Pell puke. My God, what a cretin! As an IT consultant, I can only hope I run into this toad in the marketplace. We're talking room temperature IQ here.

"Bush is in rebellion against the Constitution of the United States of America. Those army unit that follow his orders are in rebellion against the Constitution, The People, and the Legitimate Government of the United States."

Edwin A. Pell III
Fu Eng. 1978
GSAS 1981
1-914-475-7452

216 Long Pond Road
Rhinebeck, New York
12572
USA

Edwin A. Pell III
edpell@bestweb.net
Applications Engineering Consultant
New York State

Targus

Who IS that doofus?

Hmm, methinks an education does not always beget intelligence.

Don't know if it was posted on this thread, but the president of Columbia Uni denounced this guy's comments:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

I found this in the comments at Right Wing News. Fox has got to get in touch with this guy and put him on the air:

I was a member of Task Force Ranger, just saw what this air thief had to say. Sent following email to him, CCing the veteran grape vine:

Nicholas:

My name is John Belman, and I was a member of the unit that was involved in the battle of Mogadishu in October of 1993. I also have a relationship with Columbia, in 1990 having left a full fellowship in the Graduate Department of History in order to serve my country in a time of war. Had I stayed, I would be an academic just like you, maybe even at the History Department at Columbia itself.

Your recent comments are truly unbelievable. Indeed, I will never forget them, or you, for the rest of my life. The right to think and speak openly is of course essential to both political and academic freedom in our country. You have every right to say the things you said.

But I intend to speak as well - writing and appearing in the media against your continued employment at Columbia, and employment at any other University in the United States, for as long as we both live. I will also be encouraging other fellow Task Force Ranger veterans to speak out as well. We're very fortunate in having easy access to the major media outlets, given the current war and the impact of the Black Hawk Down movie.

So who knows, Nick. Maybe you'll end up having to leave academia and find another job. I hear the Army is hiring....

John Belman

Posted by John Belman at March 29, 2003 12:58 AM

Re: #61 - Lee C. Bollinger, the president of Columbia, said "I am shocked that someone would make such statements." This from the man who employs Tom Paulin ("kill the Jews"), Ed Said ("the Jews control American) and innumerable Arab nationalists and Marxists who teach nothing but propaganda. More likely he is shocked that a light has been shined into his rats-nest of a university.

There is an old addage, "Those who can't do, teach." Unfortunately, this appears to be one of those situations. The losers preach hate from Ivory towers, while those with talent engage the real world from positions of authority using informed and carefully considered ideas to try to improve it.

Sent to Bollinger, Snyder, Foner, and of De Genova:

Dear President Bollinger,

Like many people, I was greatly saddened by reports of the recent anti-war rally at Columbia. The problem, however, is much deeper than what Professor De Genova said, as reprehensible as those remarks were.

Professor Eric Foner is perpetrating a complete falsehood in saying that De Genova's remarks did "not represent the general tone of the event, which was highly educational." Professor Snyder's presentation drew parallels between Bush on the one hand, and Hitler and Tojo, among others. Professor Fields--like other speakers--drew parallels between the nation and/or Bush administration and Nazi Germany. Other examples such as these are possible. Of the many speakers, only a few attempted what could be considered intellectually rigorous presentations.

Be honest: this was a one-sided, emotional outpouring which had embarrassingly little intellectual content. If this is Eric Foner's view of the university, he can keep it. And I doubt most Americans will be buying his line either.

Freedom of speech? Yes. Freedom not to support Columbia, and to send students to an intellectually rigorous place where serious discussion (i.e., entertains multiple perspectives on an issue) takes place? Most assuredly.

My prediction is that Foner, DeGenova, Snyder, Fields, and others like them (i.e., one-sided and prone to rant) will “cry foul” loudly now that some of their fellow citizens have had the audacity to disagree with them.

Professor, name withheld for fear of retribution from the "enlightened" likes of Foner and Snyder

#62: John Belman

Read this post if you haven't already. Stirring. All the best to John.

"Peace is not patriotic," DeGenova began. "Peace is subversive, because peace anticipates a very different world than the one in which we live--a world where the U.S. would have no place."

This I don't understand. The US desires peace. We don't want our buildings flown into, our people killed, etc. In order to assure this we have to kill a lot of people who want to fly into our buildings and otherwise destroy our way of life, including listening to rock and roll and dressing whoever we may choose.

On the other hand, peace has no place in a community seeking an on-going permanent revolution - can't think of any country where that's desired...

maybe this is why, why foreign governments have been overthrown, the intellectuals are the first to be executed

There are exceptions to the anti-US hatred that exists in some of academe.

Recently Sheikh Abdul Palazzi, of Italy, Muslim chair of Islam-Israel Fellowship at the Root and Branch Association, was in the US guest lecturing at Yale University on the possibility of bringing democracy to the Arab world.

He gave an interview to Naomi Klass Mauer of The Jewish Press, a NYC weekly newspaper, which appears at jewishpress.com
[Link: www.jewishpress.com...]

"The United States has a real opportunity now to accomplish just that. The best proof is Afghanistan. Things are really turning around there and they can do the same thing in Iraq.

"After the first Gulf war ended the Emir was left in place in Kuwair. Slavery is rampant in Kuwair, but no one tried to replace the Emir with a real democracy, or to abolish slavery. Everything was left in place.

"But this time if the U.S. proves that it wants the globalization of democracy, it has a real chance to accomplish it in Arab countries.

"When you show the Arab world that you side with Arab leaders who kill them or enslave them, they lose all hope of change. An example is Arafat. When you build him up and the people know who he is, they have no hope of a change.

"I am terribly concerned that President Bush speaks of a Palestinian state. I am afraid that once this war with Iraq is won, the pressure on Israel to create a Palestinian state will be enormous.

"You cannot get rid of one terrorist state and then create a new one. And the Palestinian Authority will be worse, because they are the true allies of Saddam Hussein."

From his writings on the US, Abdul Palazzi appears to be pro-American. Also, his vigorous support of Israel leads me also to believe that he is pro-American. Also, his views of the French behavior also suggest that he is pro-American:

Q: Regarding the situation in Iraq, are you suprised by the way the French have acted?

Palazzi: "Unfortunately, no. France has reached a new low level. They want the regime of Saddam to survive because they have a financial interest in him."

It seems to me that Abdul Palazzi of Italy is part of the pro-American group of Moslems that include, for example, Fox News analyst Mansour Iyaz of the US, and "muslimpundit" Adil Farooq of the UK.

I think it is well to remember that in the Muslim world there are various groups. There is the jihaditerrorist murderous group and their criminal supporters including fundraisers for jihaditerrorism (like al-Arian); there are those who support the goals of the radical utiopian Islamists but do not provably do anything actually criminal (like CAIR);
there are those who are extremely hateful of America, but do not actually support all of the goals of the radical utopian Islamists; and there are also pro-America Muslims --- like Abdul Palazzi.

Maybe it's time to bring back the Pledge of Allegiance into our classrooms, and perhaps tie some standards to the continued flow of Federal funding for colleges.

What does it take to cross the line into sedition?

Bollinger's "official" statement on the affair, in its entirety:

President Bollinger's Statement on Recent Comments by Assistant Professor De Genova

I am shocked that someone would make such statements. Because of the University's tradition of academic freedom, I normally don't comment about statements made by faculty members. However, this one crosses the line and I really feel the need to say something. I am especially saddened for the families of those whose lives are at risk.

For somebody who really feels the need to say something, he sure doesn't say much. But then, to even suggest that a left-wing professor said something that might be somehow objectionable .... that must be as painful as a dog passing a peach pit.

This DeGenova guy has too much time on his hand.
He was up in arms awhile back with Dame Edna for her column in Vanity Fair. She/he was anti-Latino, he claimed.

[Link: www.safeschoolscoalition.org...]

Any Suggestions?

1. What schools?
2. Action Now

1. What schools?

We'll be sending kids off to college in a couple of years.
Anyone know if the 'lower-tiered' universities would contain fewer anti-American/Jewish/Christian/etc..
professers (Anti-Professors) than the 'top-tier' ones?

Any suggestions as to where I can research this is
welcome. I realize it may not be possible to find a college where there are *no* 'Anti-Professors', but I'd like a suggestion as to where they may be fewer in number and/or not as bad as the ones at Columbia.

I'm not afraid to expose my kids to these 'Anti- Professors', but I don't want my money used to pay their salaries. My kids have already been exposed to some anti-Americanism at their high school. I provide them with a different viewpoint via discussions and pointing out websites for further research. The Iraq war has been very fruitful for these discussions.

2. Actions taken now

I've written Columbia to inform them that none of my children would ever attend their university. I also mentioned that I know many parents who are starting to look at colleges and will make sure these parents are made aware of the types of professors Columbia has.

If you are a parent whose children are starting to look at colleges, write to Columbia and let them know you don't want your money to pay the salaries of professors like
DeGenova. Let others, who have college bound children,
know what is going on.

I haven't done this yet, but I'm affiliated with my local VFW. I intend to make sure people there are aware of what DeGenova has said.

Regards,
Chris J. from Boston

Chris J. (#73): I dunno about the general issue, but you might want to check out this school.

From the chair of Columbia's anthro dept.
freedom to kill americans???

Thank you for your letter.

I would like to make clear in the strongest possible terms that the
recent (March 26th, 2003) remarks by Assistant Professor Nicholas
DeGenova concerning the war in Iraq were made on his own behalf and
should not be taken to reflect the views of the department of
Anthropology. As chair and as an individual member of Columbia's
faculty I cherish the principles of freedom of speech and academic
freedom. Now more than ever, we need to protect these freedoms.
However, I am deeply concerned when the academic obligations of debate
and critique are sullied by sentiments that seem profoundly out of line
with the values and commitments that are fundamental to academic life.
I am personally appalled by some of Professor DeGenova's remarks, and
repudiate any statement wishing violence against soldiers or civilians
alike. I deeply regret the offence that has been occasioned by this
incident, but must note as well that I am also saddened by the violence
of the language that has been directed, in turn, not just at Professor
DeGenova alone, but at the department of Anthropology as a whole and our
colleagues in the faculty and administration at Columbia University.

Professor Nicholas Dirks,
Chair, Department of Anthropology

So I'm having a "degrees of separation" moment. I just (re-)discovered I went to college with De Genova. He and I were in the same undergraduate class at the University of Chicago. (No, I'm not the owner of the linked blog.)

For what it's worth, he was an unrepentant Communist even back in the day. On one hand, I remember him keeping pretty quiet during the few core classes we shared (even, as I recall, including the few weeks with the Marx-Engels Reader during one quarter of Soc). On the other, he made a habit of canvassing each room of every dorm in the school at least once a year in an attempt to sway people over to his political viewpoint. We used to joke about it, quoting the Monty Python skit: [heavy accent] "Would you like to buy a Communist revolution?" He was rail-thin, and in concurrance with the above link, always seemed more like a deluded sap than a real threat.