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DeGenova to Speak in NY

Tue, Apr 1, 2003 at 10:49:48 am PST

Columbia professor Nicholas DeGenova, who openly wished for the defeat of the US and the deaths of American soldiers (yet still has a job at Columbia), will be speaking this Thursday, April 3, at the Brecht Forum along with several Arab “anti-war” representatives. (Hat tip: Brenda Walker.) Here’s how the Brecht Forum describes this little hate-America gabfest:

In the hysteria that the Bush administration has continued to foment for over a year in its push for the continued militarization of the globe, a gutted constitution, and a ghoulish vision of endless war, immigrants in the U.S. have been ‘disappeared’ and deported at alarming rates.
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1 Bob  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 8:54:39am

Can a cruise missle go that far off course??hmmm

2 Lisa  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 8:55:02am

Gross, gross.

3 tom @ work  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 8:56:31am

#1 seriously...

that scum. if it were up to him, he would have 9/11's all over the country.

4 d  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 8:58:56am

This is the same moron who claimed last year (at a pro-Palestinian teach-in) that "The heritage of the victims of the Holocaust belongs to the Palestinian people. The state of Israel has no claim to the heritage of the Holocaust."

[Link: www.columbiaspectator.com...]

Between this guy and Joseph Massad, one really has to wonder about Columbia's hiring qualifications.

5 William  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:01:28am

Also De Genova's latest from yesterday:


I also affirmed that Iraqi liberation can only be effected by the Iraqi people themselves, both by resisting and defeating the U.S. invasion as well as overthrowing a regime whose brutality was long sustained by none other than the U.S. Such an anti-colonial struggle for self-determination might involve a million Mogadishus now but would ultimately have to become something more like another Vietnam. Vietnam was a stunning defeat for U.S. imperialism; as such, it was also a victory for the cause of human self-determination.

Is this a tirade against "anything and everything American"? Far from it. First, I hasten to remind you that "American" refers to all of the Americas, not merely to the United States, as U.S. imperial chauvinism would have it. More importantly, my rejection of U.S. nationalism is an appeal to liberate our own political imaginations such that we might usher in a radically different world in which we will not remain the prisoners of U.S. global domination.

[Link: www.columbiaspectator.com...]

6 Tim Shell  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:01:28am

I hope DeGenova enjoys addressing fringe organizations. This will likely be his fate from now on.

7 Studsup  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:05:25am

What are the odds that, if a conservative CU professor or student were to wish "a million Kent States" on the leftist protesters, the person uttering the remark would not be expelled or fired immediately? I suspect that such a professor or student would find that CU would not let "free speech" considerations get in the way of prompt retribution.

Bollinger's statement following this outrage were weak tea. Whether Bollinger cares to believe it or not, DeGenova does repesent CU and nothing Bollinger can say changes that fact. CU hires him and gives him specific opportunities to spread his message on campus and, in the University's name, beyond.

8 Annelid[deleted]  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:06:16am
9 james  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:07:43am

OT: Do you live in America? Are you angry with the country's decision to wage war in Iraq? Do you support the U.N. position along with France that America should use inspections instead of force? Do you hate our current administration...especially Bush? Do you try to voice your opinion in chat rooms and on message boards to no avail? Then try thenleave.com

10 JH  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:09:12am

Brecht Forum?Entirely too appropriate.
Bertolt Brecht wrote propaganda for the Stalinist East German government - all the while keeping an Austrian passport and a Swiss bank account,to enjoy the not inconsiderable royalties from his plays.When the East German regime sent troops to shoot at striking workers - in a "Workers' Republic",no less - Brecht dutifully took the party line and claimed the dead were CIA saboteurs.
Lies,propaganda and a ruthless attitude to making a profit whenever possible,despite claiming to be "a good communist",put Bertolt Brecht high-up in the world hypocrisy championships.

11 Alf  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:09:35am

Video tape his speech.

Short histroy lesson:

Back in 1940 or so, Washington DC went to Hollywood and asked them to make a propaganda movie that would reveal the truth of the German Nazis.

A very smart film producer made propaganda films that consisted solely of real footage of Nazi marches, rallies and speeches. It scared the hell out of Americans who hadn't yet been convinced that we should prepare to go to war.

Someone should video tape this guy and show it to the American people.

12 nikolakis  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:10:42am

immigrants disappearing? Sounds like X-files to me. Send Mulder and Scully to investigate...

13 Texan Jew  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:12:13am

I am just glad when applying to grad school i left columbia off the list. I mean, these guys must be stupid or something. Let me see if i understand their methodalogy

1) We are located in the most Jewish place in America (and probably the world outside israel) where Jews have for years donated 100s mm of dollars to charitable causes and universities through out NYC.

2) We are in a city that recently lost 3,000 citizens due to terror attack

3) Lets hire professors that vocally denounce Jews, says their right to the holocaust should be denied and call for the death of american soldiers.

Seems like a bright idea to me. . .that should raise their level of funding, i guess that is why they are so ivy league.

14 Morgan  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:12:18am

Nicky the Hater is upset by a policy of the Immigration service. I guess they must be doing something right.

15 Robert Crawford  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:13:03am
What are the odds that, if a conservative CU professor or student were to wish "a million Kent States" on the leftist protesters, the person uttering the remark would not be expelled or fired immediately? I suspect that such a professor or student would find that CU would not let "free speech" considerations get in the way of prompt retribution.

Of course free speech wouldn't apply -- it would be called "hate speech" and the speaker would be sent to re-education camp, er, sensitivity training.

16 Texan Jew  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:14:04am

By the way, why hasnt anybody bashed that jahadi's head in?

17 Deacon Frost  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:15:47am

You know he's going to talk about how his right to free speech has been abridged, when everyone from the right to the wacky-but-still-decent-human-beings left has denounced this assclown. The antiwar crowd at Columbia is fuming at him--apparently they think he tried to sabotage the event for some unknown reason.

18 Glen Armand  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:15:47am

Maybe this guy should have studied hisotry

Abraham Lincoln said: "Things may come to those who wait, but only the things left by those who hustle" How much will the terrorist leave for us?

And for those who choose to ignore the truth that Iraq is a real and present danger ...
Lincoln said: "How many legs does a dog have if you call the tail a leg? Four. Calling a tail a leg doesn't make it a leg."

19 John K  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:16:19am

I urge everyone to attend this "Forum"....with Baseball bats.

20 Deacon Frost  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:16:38am

Regarding this guy and the troops, wasn't Jung that said that those without nobility become offended when they see it in others?

21 Ellen  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:21:29am

What if he had asked for a million Matthew Shepards or a million James Byrds? He'd be out on his butt so fast the skid marks would still be smoking.

I think he may hang himself yet. He obviously loves the spotlight.

22 Steve in BDA  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:26:10am

Oh jeez, I really wish I was going to be in New York this Thursday. I would be all over this piece of crap.

23 John  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:26:52am

122 West street is about 3 blocks from ground zero. This is an absolute disgrace. Where's Rudy Guiliani!?!

24 MB  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:28:42am

"Disappeared"...ehh..."deported"...ehh..

Legal immigrants, I doubt.

25 Alf  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:30:46am

Seriously,

Bring your video camera. Tape the guy. The American people need to see who is teaching in our colleges.

26 DW  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:31:43am

From what I've read, Nicky's dissertation/expertise is on Mexican/Latino immigrants and their culture. With this background, he is sure to add some incisive commentary. Maybe there are millions of Jose Padilla's among the "thousands" of "illegal" disparus?

27 Angela  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:34:38am

Hey DeGenova--Is this what you want to see?? Happy now??

This Brecht Forum is at 122 West 27th Street. I happen to live right around the corner. I think I'll stop in if I can stomach it.

28 scooter  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:34:52am

#8 Annelid

I'm sure that you could attend the lecture at the Brecht Forum. It's open to the public It's a dingy space on an upper floor of a run down building on 27th bet 7th and 8th. Get there early, it's a small space.

While in attendence you can pick up "Free Mummia" pamphlets and information on NYC Marxist organizations. It's fun for the whole family.

29 Q  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:39:39am
wasn't Jung that said that those without nobility become offended when they see it in others?

Jung was a fraud and a Nazi asslicker (just like DeGenova, come to think of it), but he's definitely on to something here.

30 Bob  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:45:50am

a good article today by PIPES
Columbia VS. America
by Daniel Pipes and Jonathan Calt Harris
New York Post
April 1, 2003
[Link: www.danielpipes.org...]
[Link: www.nypost.com...]

"U.S. flags are the emblem of the invading war machine in Iraq today. They are the emblem of the occupying power. The only true heroes are those who find ways that help defeat the U.S. military."

Those words were spoken last week by Nicholas De Genova, a professor of anthropology and Latin American studies at Columbia University. De Genova went on, in words that will long shame his university, to call on U.S. soldiers to "frag" (i.e., murder) their officers and to wish "for a million Mogadishus," referring to the 1993 ambush in Somalia that left 18 U.S. soldiers dead and 84 wounded.

He wants 18 million dead Americans?

Columbia's administration distanced itself from De Genova (he "does not in any way represent" the university's views) and other professors criticized him - but his remarks are hardly the rude exception to the usual discourse of the faculty at that university. For one: Tom Paulin, a visiting professor at Columbia this academic year, has stated that Brooklyn-born Jews "should be shot dead" if they live on the West Bank.

More broadly, plenty of other Columbia professors share De Genova's venomous feelings for the United States, though they stop short of calling for the deaths of Americans.

* Eric Foner, Dewitt Clinton professor of American history, sees the U.S. government as a habitual aggressor: "Our notion of ourselves as a peace-loving republic is flawed. We've used military force against many, many nations, and in very few of those cases were we attacked or threatened with attack."

* Edward Said, university professor, calls the U.S. policy in Iraq a "grotesque show" perpetrated by a "small cabal" of unelected individuals who hijacked U.S. policy. He accuses "George Bush and his minions" of hiding their imperialist grab for "oil and hegemony" under a false intent to build democracy and human rights.

Said deems Operation Iraqi Freedom "an abuse of human tolerance and human values" waged by an "avenging Judeo-Christian god of war." This war, he says, fits into a larger pattern of America "reducing whole peoples, countries and even continents to ruin by nothing short of holocaust."

* Rashid Khalidi, who will hold the Edward Said chair of Middle East Studies starting in the fall, used the term "idiots' consensus" to describe the wide support for reversing Saddam Hussein's 1990 invasion of Kuwait and called on his colleagues to combat it. After 9/11, he admonished the media to drop its "hysteria about suicide bombers."

* Gary Sick, acting director of the Middle East Institute, alleges that Ronald Reagan beat Jimmy Carter in 1980 by conspiring with the Ayatollah Khomeini to keep the U.S. hostages in Iran. He apologizes for the Iranian government (it "has been meticulous in complying with the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty") and blames Washington for having "encouraged Iran to proceed" with building nuclear weapons.

Sick opposes letting U.S. victims of Iranian-sponsored terrorism collect large damages against Tehran. More generally, he sees the Bush administration as "belligerent" and his fellow Americans as "insufferable."

* George Saliba, professor of Arabic and Islamic Science, routinely interrupts his class with political rants, leading one student to observe that it is "continuously insulting" to attend his lectures and another to complain about his course (on the subject of an "Introduction to Islamic Civilization," of all things) degenerating into a forum for railing against "evil America."

* Joseph Massad, assistant professor of Modern Arab Politics and Intellectual History, seems to blame every ill in the Arab world on the United States. Poverty results from "the racist and barbaric policies" of the American-dominated International Monetary Fund and the World Bank. The absence of democracy is the fault of "ruling autocratic elites and their patron, the United States." Militant Islamic violence results from "U.S. imperialist aggression."

Such sentiments coming from leading lights of the Columbia professorate suggest that De Genova fits very well into his institution. He just made the mistake of blurting out the logical conclusion of the anti-Americanism forwarded by some of his colleagues.

This self-hatred points to an intellectual crisis at a school long considered one of the country's best. Alumni, parents of students and other friends of the university should first acknowledge this reality, then take steps to fix it.

31 Deacon Frost  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:48:20am

What Foner said is undeniably true. Pipes is blowing smoke by including him.

32 Desert Vet  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:50:39am

OT

I saw this via Instapundit: [Link: www.abc.net.au...]

Apparently, French vandals have desecrated a memorial dedicated to British soldiers who died defending France in WWI

33 Ben Noah  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:51:14am

I'm saddened to say I am close friends with two people who help run the Brecht forum. I love them dearly, but their organization's policies and advocacy leaves me speechless with each passing year.

34 Wild Justice  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:51:24am

OT:
A miracle. Terry Gross is actually interviewing someone from the right today! But of course she's directly following up with an opposite view:

FRESH AIR with Terry Gross
Long before September 11th a group of influential officials and experts were calling for regime change in Iraq. We hear from one of them, William Kristol, editor of the "Weekly Standard." And we hear from an opponent of their worldview Joseph Cirincione, director of the Non-Proliferation Project at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

Keep pounding NPR with emails, guys.

As Jed Babbin said the other day talking about our HPM weapon (high-powered microwave):

"Any left after the war can always be used on NPR."

35 Q  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:53:06am
"avenging Judeo-Christian god of war."

As opposed to forgiving and tolerant Muslim god of peace, I suppose.

36 Hooteewho  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:55:35am

Crap like this just illustrates and affirms the double standard that is ever present and alive that spews from the mouth of liberals. I wonder what the professor would think if any of his family were in the WTC on 9/11? Besides this forum, what can we do, as level headed conservatives?

37 arkroyal  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:57:11am

If the anti-war crowd is angry at him for sabotage, I suggest we help them with that thought. I would love to see these folks turn cannibal.

38 Deacon Frost  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 9:59:25am

#36

This guy ain't a liberal. He's an authoritarian left-winger.

39 Celissa  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 10:00:06am

OT:

Fox just had a guy from Naseriyah on: two of the people--including the man driving the van filled with women and children--were forced to run the roadblock under threat of their family's execution.

Why am I not surprised.

40 Clutch  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 10:00:34am

I can only hope that a steel-toed size 13 makes repeated and violent contact with this assclowns' nads, should said assclown posess any such manly protruberances. If he does not posess nads, this contact can be engaged with his chin.

41 Pliny  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 10:06:30am

#27 Angela

Think I might go too, at least to take notes. Do you know if they are charging for the event?

42 Wild Justice  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 10:07:26am

#39   Celissa 

Do you think Al-Spazeera will mention that?

My bet is their camera crew will be tipped off for the next roadblock running.

Marines shooting the crap out of a kiddie-filled bus. (Warning shots edited out, of course.)

What a propaganda coup that'd be.

43 Hooteewho  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 10:08:13am

#38 I stand corrected. Thank you.

44 Emmett  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 10:13:46am

What a charming fellow, this Professor Nicholas DeGenova. It's a pity the USSR fell so long ago or he could stand at the podium waving a little hammer and sickle flag.

Funny how this war is bringing all the cranks and haters out of the woodwork.

45 Angela  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 10:13:59am

#41   Pliny

Unclear if there's a fee. Looking on their web site, some lectures have a 'suggested donation' of between $6-10, but others have no price. I would not be pleased to give those people money.

46 Maui Girl  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 10:16:38am

Should we e-mail Bill OReilly and let him know about the forum so that he can announce it on his show?

47 K.  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 10:17:49am

OT: Fox is reporting that the van than ran the checkpoint and got shot up was forced to do it. The story is that the women and children were put in the van and the driver was told to run the checkpoint. Source is an interview with a cleric, I assume a Shi-ite. Supposedly another man was told to run a different checkpoint in the same way; he refused & was shot.

48 Robert Brandtjen  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 10:27:39am

OT-
can anyone point me to links detailing the Catholic (Rome's) Church's denial of the holocasut (while in progress) and their desire to placate Hitler?

I don't mean to be inflamatory, I just factual info for responding to st.Paul/Minneapolis Arch-Bishop Flynn's anti-war, anti Bush Policy of Liberating Iraq.

He had mailed in a giant editorial piece to the Pioneer Press. Sorry, I can't find a link to his editorial.

49 Glen Wishard  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 10:30:52am

I got a little form response from Prof. Dirks at Columbia, in answer to my irate mail of last Friday, and I sent this in reply:

Dear Professor Dirks:
Thank you for your reply. I have also taken encouragement from Dr. Bollinger’s statement.
I take less encouragement from the fact that another Columbia professor, in remarks reported in the Columbia Spectator, has suggested that Professor Nicholas De Genova is an agent provocateur, and a tool of conspiracy. This kind of flippancy makes me think that some do not take the concerns of people like myself very seriously, picturing us as a simple folk who will be easily confused. Even less encouraging is Professor De Genova’s letter to the Spectator. He complains of being “decontextualized”. As nearly as I can diagnose it, this peculiar injury resulted from the fact that only a few of his psychotic remarks were publicized, and not all of them. And not content with a million Mogadishus, he wants to add another Vietnam to his grisly little shopping-cart. So his appetite for carnage remains unsatisfied.
I believe in the principles of free speech and academic freedom. I have friends and countrymen who risk their lives to uphold those principles, and to protect the nation that has so generously nurtured the democratic and constitutional ideals that we simple folk are wont to delight in. (Among these magnificent men and women are a high number of Latinos --- Professor De Genova might recall the word from his studies.) Thanks to those excellent people, not one ivy leaf of Columbia University need be disturbed. Is it too much to ask that Columbia University put on a more-or-less peaceful face in return, regardless of what rancor might reside there?
So I do not call for the removal of Professor De Genova from your university. In fact, I might almost wish that you could make arrangements to confine that individual there in perpetuity. Failing that, I suggest with all good intent that Professor De Genova be given a sabbatical. He could travel through my beloved country and meet some of the people who inhabit it, love it, and defend it. It might make him less eager to see us all drowned in our own blood, to make way for all the new and exciting things that the professor envisions. And it might make him less likely to encourage the students of Columbia University in such sentiments.
50 Robert Brandtjen  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 10:34:57am
What Foner said is undeniably true. Pipes is blowing smoke by including him.

Keep working those edges Deacon. Must make your liberal heart beat furiously, contemplating sneaking in a covert little dig against america.

51 Tyson  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 10:37:45am

Okay, so we "backed" saddam against the chador mafia in Iran. Could somebody tell me what weapons the Iraqis have used up to this point that were made in America? hmm, lets see...

FROG missiles, GPS scramblers, T-72s, T-55s, SCUD missiles, AK-47s, Katyusha rockets, and MiG fighters/bombers are all Soviet/ Russian.

"Abbeville" SAMs, Gazelle attack choppers, and Mirage Jets are (correct me if I'm wrong) all french equipment.

Technicals, well, those are Chevrolet pickups (a French word no less) so we do indeed back Saddams death Machine! But Saddam may not realize that the Chevy is vastly inferior to the Ford truck.

So far, Somalia's (and Mogadishu's) contribution to this war has been the use of ineffective, soft-bodied, pill boxes and disproportionate casualty rates among the Iraqis.

On to Damascus.

52 Ranbutan  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 10:52:28am

I sent out a few emails and got a nice one back from his Department Chair. I originally posted it on the "Geraldo" thread (#83) along with my original email, but think that reposting it here would be good for LGF visitors that might have missed it on the last thread.

The Chair, Professor Nicholas Dirk (U of Chicago PhD) has a intro site that makes clear, total sense on his academic pursuits at columbia.edu, and his published papers appear to be impressive. Contrasted of course with the post-mod gibberish you see of De Genova's pursuits and publishings.

Professor Dirks letter to me (and likely other complaints) was classy, upbraided both De Genova and those that used "violence of language" against Columbia. If you "read between the lines"...you might conclude De Genova "sullied" his chances of tenure (if he ever had any) or even continuing employment once his existing contract is up. It could be that De Genova knew the gig was up long before Wednesday...and rather than take the next career step down...to a State branch college or being a bigshot teaching in Cuba but on shit for money & waiting on his rice 'n beans ration cards.....has elected a career path as the "famous radical college activist" who will write books, preach to thousands of Lefties, and be in the next Michael Moore movie.

Prof Dirks writes:

Thank you for your letter.

I would like to make clear in the strongest possible terms that the recent (March 26th, 2003) remarks by Assistant Professor Nicholas DeGenova concerning the war in Iraq were made on his own behalf and should not be taken to reflect the views of the department of
Anthropology. As chair and as an individual member of Columbia's faculty I cherish the principles of freedom of speech and academic freedom. Now more than ever, we need to protect these freedoms.
However, I am deeply concerned when the academic obligations of debate and critique are sullied by sentiments that seem profoundly out of line with the values and commitments that are fundamental to academic life.
I am personally appalled by some of Professor DeGenova's remarks, and repudiate any statement wishing violence against soldiers or civilians
alike. I deeply regret the offence that has been occasioned by this incident, but must note as well that I am also saddened by the violence of the language that has been directed, in turn, not just at Professor
DeGenova alone, but at the department of Anthropology as a whole and our colleagues in the faculty and administration at Columbia University.

Professor Nicholas Dirks,
Chair, Department of Anthropology

I wrote him back thanking him for taking the time to respond and for the generally gracious and well-considered content of his note. Adding...that I disagreed, as do most people, that De Genova's remarks in any way reflected directly on Professor Dirks or the faculty & administration of Columbia. Except, that is, in the sense that De Genova contributed to a sullying of the University's reputation that other "radical" incidents have built towards. That perhaps Professor Dirks might discuss with his colleagues how Harvard, Yale, University of Chicago all have tremendously unpopular controversial ideas freely fielded & debated...but have managed the process in a way that the stink of such unpopular notions never sticks to them, as it does to Columbia. That it has much to do with how responsive the other stellar universites are to alumni, directors, and the general public's constructive feedback.

53 Mike  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 10:56:45am

My reply to the Anthro Chair was less forgiving:

A few comments:

1) DeGenova is reflective of the quality of staff YOU hire for your department and University, period.

2) DeGenova singlehandedly strengthens the stereotype that academia is full of left wing, ivory tower fantasists.

3) The fact that you will take no disciplanary action only serves to reinforce the claims that there is a "free speech" double standard. If DeGenova had wished a death on Muslims and blacks, instead of our own American GI's, he most surely would have been disciplined. This phenomenon is most clearly seen at Berkeley but Columbia doens't appear to be far behind.

4) Your reference to debate is laughable. There was no debate on your campus that day -- it was a Hate America Rally (I read the articles).

5) Finally, your sincerity is called into question with the usual deflective caveat..."but". Frankly, I don't blame anyone for their "violence of language" when responding to a 'professor' who wishes that our fellow Americans will die.

6) The reputation of Columbia as an institution of "higher learning" will forever be tarred by its Hate America Rally and your refusal to discipline your employee.

54 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 10:58:58am

IN THE NAME OF AMERICA THE MERICFUL-

After studying all of relevant teachings and statutes applicable to this call, the following ruling has been issued-

It is permissable for rightminded believers in the rule of law and teachings of the founding fathers, Peace Unto Them and it is commanded that a mighty counter demonstration shall arise against these sick micreants and that they be verbally shouted down until they weep in the toilet that is their lives.

Cousin SHORTY, Peace Unto Him, is admonished to attend and defend democracy as he sees fit. Cousin SHORTY is admonished to only act in self defense but may feel free to get into losers' faces and advise them to get out of his country. Cousin SHORTY's exact size and weight shall be kept secret so as to not cause wetting of pants by leftists.

In the name of America, this Fatwa is final.

55 Vexorg  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 11:07:31am

Recently, "Baghdad Jim" McDermott was giving some sort of presentation around here, spewing this same hate and anti-war rhetoric (as an elected member of congress, no less.) KVI, one of the local talk radio stations around here, got word of this, and on notice of less than an hour was able to get no less than 60 people to the site of this presentation to protest against this trator. I don't know what the talk radio situation in New York is like, but I wouldn't be surprised if such a counter-demonstration could be organized for this.

56 Jocelyn  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 12:01:38pm

I love this.

Excellent advice for anti war activists.

With all of this talk of impending war, many of us will encounter
"Peace
Activists" who will try and convince us that we must refrain from
retaliating against the ones who terrorized us all on September 11,
2001.

These activists may be alone or in a gathering.....most of us don't
know
how to react to them. When you come upon one of these people, or one of
their rallies, here are the proper rules of etiquette:

1. Listen politely while this person explains their views. Strike up a
conversation if necessary and look very interested in their ideas. They
will tell you how revenge is immoral, and that by attacking the people
who
did this to us, we will only bring on more violence. They will probably
use
many arguments, ranging from political to religious to humanitarian.

2. In the middle of their remarks, without any warning, punch them in
the
nose.

3. When the person gets up off of the ground, they will be very angry
and
they may try to hit you, so be careful.

4. Very quickly and calmly remind the person that violence only brings
about more violence and remind them of their stand on this matter. Tell
themif they are really committed to a nonviolent approach to undeserved
attacks, they will turn the other cheek and negotiate a solution. Tell
them they must lead by example if they really believe what they are
saying.

5. Most of them will think for a moment and then agree that you are
correct.

6. As soon as they do that, hit them again. Only this time hit them
much
harder. Square in the nose.

7. Repeat steps 2-5 until the desired results are obtained and the
idiot
realizes how stupid of an argument he/she is making.

8. There is no difference in an individual attacking an unsuspecting
victim or a group of terrorists attacking a nation of people. It is
unacceptable and must be dealt with. Perhaps at a high cost. We owe our
military a huge debt for what they are about to do for us and our
children. We must support them and our leaders at times like these. We
have no choice. We either strike back, VERY HARD, or we will keep
getting
hit in the nose.

57 Winged Vengeance  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 12:50:26pm

I very much wish to attend this meeting and politely--but firmly--ask the presenters for some clarifications.

I want to know why a person (my apologies for debasing that term by associating it with the like of DeGenova) who has made it clear that he wants to destroy this consititutional government should be concerned with the governments actions being unconstitutional?

Why a bloodthirsty supporter of terrorists, state-sponsored death, torture and rape squads should be called on to discuss civil liberties?

Why a hateful ideologue who has called for the death of 18 million United States citiens and 1 billion foreign muslims, most of them involuntary human shields, can be expected to engage in a constructive discussion about domestic policy in the United States or civil liberties anywhere.

Why as advocates of civil disobedience and terrorism these people don't think they are legitimizing these forms of behavior and increasing the likelihood that disruption, protest and even terrorism will be used against them, to silence their voices? (perhaps if enough of us are there we could follow such a question by shouting down all further comment from the speakers, perhaps drowining their hateful voices with a spirited rendition of God Bless America.

I hop I can make it. I hope that others here can.

Let's give 'em hell. Let's have that constructive, invigorating and, above all, lively discussion these bastards claim to want.

58 ploome  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 1:18:05pm

#57

wear kevlar......these peace activists are brutal

59 EE  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 4:52:26pm

DeGenova can make all the hate-America documents that he wants to, but when he lists his affiliation with Columbia University, he is dragging down Columbia University with him.
If the university objects to his anti-American curses (wishing many Americans to die now), and his anti-American incitement, then why do they permit DeGenova to continue to use Columbia University's name? And without any disclaimer? Does this imply that Columbia does not find his statements vile and offensive?

60 Vomitus Interruptus  Tue, Apr 1, 2003 7:36:31pm

Maybe those LGF'ers who can manage to attend should give the lefties a dose of their own medicine (so to speak) and try a tactic used in San Francisco. Eat a large meal before going, then take a spoonful of this as the session starts. If you time things right, just as our "beloved professor" begins to speak, you'll toss your cookies in his general direction.

I'm kidding, of course... but wouldn't it be fun to make lefties clean up a mess for a change?

61 Angela  Wed, Apr 2, 2003 2:01:49pm

Will he even show up for this hatefest? Appartently he hasn't been teaching this week at Columbia because he's received alot of death threats and is scared. Poor baby.

62 Amy  Wed, Apr 2, 2003 5:47:47pm

Here's the latest from Fox News:

[Link: www.foxnews.com...]

The jerk (who doesn't have tenure - thank God for small favors! - and is stupid enough to make these kinds of remarks before he's "safe") is "in hiding" after allegedly receiving "death threats" from thousands outraged by his remarks. He's lucky that the media haven't published his picture, because there are people out there who would try to tear him limb from limb.

At least he's not a member of the Middle Eastern Studies department, where Said and his gang would no doubt unanimously grant this turd tenure.

What a loser.


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