On to Damascus.......

I pray that Syria does something really dumb within the next couple weeks so we can liberate them, too.

(first?)

Even Daschle and Hiliary could connect THESE dots. Not that they would.

No way, the idiotarians have been telling us all along that there was no link between Iraq/Syria/PA and al-Qaeda.

This idiot Assad, Jr. is starting to make his murderous father seem like a wise man. Pretty scarey!

I guess Rumsfeld and Rice are making their case as apparently they have been debating Powell on moving quickly on Syria. Bush right now is giving Powell the benefit of the doubt ( I guess he didn't learn his lesson the first time with Powell making him goto the UN ) and is giving diplomacy and possible economic sanctions a chance. All this does is lay the ground work when diplomacy fails.

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OT- Todays quote:

Ultimately, academic history is driven by a hatred of America and its ideals. It is common these days for students to be told that the colonization of North America represents an act of genocide; that the Founding Fathers were racist, sexist, "classist," "homophobic," Euro-centric bigots; that the winning of the American West was an act of capitalist pillage; that the so-called "Robber Barons" forced widows and orphans into the streets; that hidden in the closets of most white Americans is a robe and hood.

Ayn Rand Institute

#7 Easy, Bull. Let's not stoop to their level.

Yay! The Syrians are next! :)

Bull: Why do I get the feeling that you're here to try to give this place a bad name?

As far as I have heard, our president does not have any plans to attack Syria. BUT...After 9-11 America made it very clear that ANY country that harbor terrorists will be looked at as potential enemies. If the murderous Islamic Extremist types are allowed to preach their hatred of the U.S., recruit and train to murder Americans, make battle plans to kill the American people,..as Dan Blather said, "We will Rock you"! So they are on notice. Clean up your own house, or we might have to do it for you. WE DID NOT DECLARE THIS WAR!!! This war was declared by religious extremists fueled by hatred of "infidels". Declaring a war on "infidels" might not be a good idea. The "infidels" seem to have God's blessings going for them. Freedom, propserity, victory..Im not even a religious person but I can clearly see that America is being blessed on a daily basis. Geeze, I am an "infidel" and I am blessed beyond belief in my life... So if Syria's government thinks it is just fine to let terrorists run loose in their country, support and train them to develop the means to attack us and threaten OUR blessings, they better think again.

Bull is full of it.

Why is it so wrong for me to express my dislike for the Moslems?

Speaking of Hillary....why hasn't Hillary been speakin? I haven't heard a peep from her this entire war.

#6

Bush right now is giving Powell the benefit of the doubt

Nahh, he's just taking a breather after finishing the Iraqi Campaign in the War on Terror. The Battle for Baghdad having just ended, it is time to regroup and refit the troops. Syria will fall- it is like the old campaign of north africa in the 2nd world war- we will move on.

Syria will be a minor campaign in this Great Struggle- Iran will be somewhat tougher, Nth Korea and ultimately China will be tougher still. ANd we must be wary of course, the Serpents lying in wait here at home will strike out to end this great struggle before ultimate victory can be achieved if they are givin the opportunity.

which is why I beseech all of you to get invloved at a grass roots level to insure GW gets a second term. Sure, I would prefer a "MacArthur" or even a Teddy Roosevelt in their instead, but GW is doing a fine job at the moment, even if he leaves our borders wide open to the onslaught. Eventually he will come to see that it isn't just the Muslims asaulting the West, that it is in fact a global movement inspired by the Social Communists. That it is in fact a War on the West by those who would end all individual freedoms in the name of Global Collectivism.

i.e.- The communists didn't die with the soviet union, they instead went to China, with the belief that the US killed Soviet Communism before it had a chance to "flower" and show the world what a true 'utopia" could mean.

"Bull": When you leave messages here about "kicking pregnant Muslim women in the belly," it's not only disgusting, it gives fuel to those who try to paint LGF as a hate site -- because that's a hateful sentiment.

I suspect you know that.

And I also know that you've posted similarly extreme and hateful comments here before.

If you continue posting things like that, you'll be banned.

#8
Makes me glad that 1) I don't have kids that I must send to public school, and 2) that I was smart enough to teach myself and overcome the Socialist garbage that was forced on me in public school.

Although, I almost fell into the trap...

#8 Robert: Yeah, I think that guy teaches my daughter's AP American History Class. No joke, her teacher is liberal extremist on good days and bi-polar Anti-American on bad days.

No, this is a mistake. This cannot be true. Please, please, were tired, stop sending all of our arab brothers up to us. We really need a break.

What's wrong with hate? Hate is as natural a human emotion as love. I don't see why anyone should censore his/her own feelings just to be PC. Mark my words, when the temporary cheering for the Americans stop, Moslem hatred for America will return.

# 14 -

Lying low. Waiting for 2008 election. Hoping her competitors destroy themselves in 2004.

#14 Lively

"Speaking of Hillary....why hasn't Hillary been speakin? I haven't heard a peep from her this entire war."

It's been great, hasn't it? I think they're letting Bill do her talking these days. You know, two for one and all that.

re: 20 Bull Halsey
Bulll, you aren't saying anything that many others on this blog haven't said, they're just a touch less graphic about it. Keep it to "kill 'em all", "shoot them like dogs", "put a pest control tent over all of them", or something like that, and you'll be fine. (BTW: seems you have an appropriate moniker; while I doubt Halsey would have harmed a woman intentionally, he was known for his excesses.)

re: 15 Robert Brandtjen
Might not even be a breather. Could be we're just waiting for the 4ID to reach the start line.

I guess Rumsfeld and Rice are making their case as apparently they have been debating Powell on moving quickly on Syria. Bush right now is giving Powell the benefit of the doubt ( I guess he didn't learn his lesson the first time with Powell making him goto the UN ) and is giving diplomacy and possible economic sanctions a chance. All this does is lay the ground work when diplomacy fails.

For what it's worth - mind you, this is all opinion - I think that sending Powell to the UN was a good move in the long run. First of all, it put the matter on the line - this is what we're going to to do, this is whom we're going to do it to, and this is why - in an international forum, and Powell seems to have good credibility internationally. Second, it smoked out the opposers; provided them an opportunity to hang themselves when all the dire predictions turned out wrong. Third, since moving people and equipment into Kuwait, Turkey, the Gulf and Qatar was going to take several months anyway, why not try to get support from the UN? Fourth, it put the UNSC in a position where it either had to make stew or put away the dishes, and essentially determined what the UN's role in post-Hussein Iraq was to be.

I won't deny that going to the UNSC cost the US "face" with certain people, and it did provide additional attention to groups like the WWP/ANSWER that they'd not otherwise have gotten. But I think the overall, net effect was actually positive.

Interestingly - but not surprisingly, Senator Clinton (pardon me while I gag - I live in New York State) has had nothing to say about the whole Iraq deal. Makes a fellow wonder...

#15

Eventually he will come to see that it isn't just the Muslims asaulting the West, that it is in fact a global movement inspired by the Social Communists. That it is in fact a War on the West by those who would end all individual freedoms in the name of Global Collectivism.

DINGDINGDING!!

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Candy, tell our contestant what he's won!"

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#23 Grognard,

It's too bad that even conservatives have been thoroughly trained to have kneejerk PC reactions. I do not feel a bit of shame for hating people who hate me and wanting to kill people who intend to kill me. Yeah, I am painting with a rather broad brush, sue me.

they're just a touch less graphic about it. Keep it to "kill 'em all", "shoot them like dogs", "put a pest control tent over all of them"

Isn't it nice to have one's genius, that certain ability with a turn of phrase, appreciated? Even out of the context of the posts that I was replying to, and without the effort to quote me correctly, it's still heart-warming to know that I am appreciated.

It would bring tears to my eyes if I weren't laughing at the obvious attempt at sour sarcasm evident in the context of the post.

Oh well...

#27

Bull, kneejerk reactions are just that. What separates "us from "them" and what defines our moral and cultural superiority is our ability to not stoop to their level of savagery in how we respond. Having said that, if a bunch of those [bigoted word]s were coming at me and my family, I would wipe them out--and I have the necessary firepower to do exactly that.

Bull H....the problem is that you take a hate for the tought/learned culture of militant Islam, and apply it to the people of that culture, including women and unborn children in your case.

They aren't born anti-American, they are indoctrinated. It's this indoctrination that we hate.

#29 Paladin,

I still haven't gotten over the rejoycing of the Moslems (even those in the US) of the destruction of the WTC. Hate is a perfectly normal and even healthy human emotion. Being incapable of hating is not a sign of one's moral and cultural superiority, but rather a sign of being thoroughly brain washed and conditioned by political correctness.

Bull H...
Be specific in your hate. I don't hate the people, I hate what they do and what drives them to do it.

#31

I'm not thrilled with those images either and I'm probably the least politically correct person you will ever meet. But I'm not willing to lower myself to the Code of Hammurabi in response. Remember, these people have been taught to hate all their lives and have never had the opportunity to see the other side as their media is strictly controlled. Their hatred--like most hatred--is based upon lies and ignorance.

I don't find this too terribly surprising. We already know that Syria supports Islamic Jihad and a host of others. They encourage the lobbing of rockets over the southern border of Lebanon into Israel. A direct link to Ansar al-Islam is hardly shocking.

aphex jim, Paladin

Do you guys hate Saddam or what drove him to his actions? How about a murderer? Do you hate her or hate the poverty and social injustice she's suffered that is the root cause that drove her to murder? I don't know, sounds pretty PC to me. I hate those who hate me, and I don't care what kind of "indoctrination" they've gone through. Would you hate Saddam any less if he's been indoctrinated by Stalinism?

Bull: what you are saying is true IN ONE RESPECT: one should hate people who hate you, and not just their actions. BUT you simply cannot assume that every Muslim (including women and unborn children) hates you, or wants to kill you, and then say "I hate all Muslims." And you contribute nothing to the quality of this thread when you post disgusting, graphic thoughts of harming Muslims. You are painting with a broad brush, and while I can't sue you, I can bitch you out for it.

And look, I know it's as "trendy" to be knee-jerkingly "anti-PC" and it is to be "PC" (depends on your crowd) but this hasn't got a damn thing to do with political correctness. It's called intellectual honesty.

Julianne,
You object to painting Moslems with a broad brush. Would you have the same objection of painting the NAZIs with a broad brush? If not, why not? And maybe you can expalin the intellectual honesty part.

Godwin's Law once again being violated:

You simply cannot equate all Muslims with Nazis. If you can explain to me how one is the same as the other, I'd be happy to hear it. I find it hard to believe that there are or were any Jew-loving Nazis. I KNOW FOR A FACT that there are some Muslims who support America, and others who don't give a damn either way.

As for intellectual honesty--it's much easier to lump all Muslims together than to treat them as individuals. I figured this was pretty self-evident. Since you can't fucking poll every single Muslim and ensure that they are all whatever it is that you hate about them, you must conceed that you don't know whether or not that pregnant woman you want to kick in the stomach hates you or not, although I'm sure that once you do, she will.

Julianne,

The Moslems are no more Jew loving than the Nazis. Just as not all Moslems are monsters, not all Nazis were monsters either. But we condemn Nazism because for the most part it is evil, just as we should, and I believe the same should apply for Islam, which most people on this site seem to agree is a vile religion.

Intellectual honesty or integrity would mean treating similarly vile ideologies with contempt. So why the kid glove treatment for Islam?

To Bull:

If all Muslims hated all Jews and all Americans, we would be having jihads all over the US.

Bull H.

Intellectual honesty or integrity would mean treating similarly vile ideologies with contempt.

Exactly. But at what point during that ideological indoctrination do we switch on our contempt regarding an individual? And what about whether or not an indoctrinated individual is open to reason?

Seems better to let past vile actions, or an obvious intent to do future vile actions, determine one's hate and expressions there of.

As for expressions of hate, they don't usually contribute to civilized duscussions, which Charles attempts to foster on these threads. Hate should be confined to moments when one is driven to defend one's self violently.

#41 moonie,

Who said ALL anything?

#41 moonie

Exactly. Which implies that not all of the Islamic ideology is vile. Only those parts that foster hate.

Bull..

Your use of "The Moslims," and "Islam" implied them in entirety.