wow!
the prof didnt even ATTEMPT to hide his racist bias

Wow. Or, actually not so wow. Leftist Nazis. (sigh).

Israeli Amit Duvshani(???)

Indian Jew?

Jew-hatred at Oxford? I never would have guessed.

Who was it who said something to the effect of:

"Why is it that the actions of one Jew taints all Jews, but this only applies to Jews?"

This is a fucking disgrace. I think I've found a way to vent. };-)~

Looks like we are returning to the previous days when there were quotas on how many Jews could be admitted. I see he is a Professor of Pathology...how fitting.

This is part of the reason why, in spite of British assistance in Iraq, I still find them offensive and am amused by their overwhelming desire to throw away their own civil rights.

Now, Charles, it's anti-Zionism, not anti-Semitism.

The University of London was chartered, in part, because Jews weren't allowed to attend Oxford or Cambridge at the time. It's nice to know we've come full circle.

Is there a way to contact Wilkie's superiors and complain about his odious letter?

Now that's a bigot!

A lil' OT...
I gotta know:
Isn't Nazism a leftist ideology? I mean, it is socialist, right? Don't socialists = leftists?

I'm a tad confused...

There should have been a "sarcasm" tag after my entry in #8. But you already knew that.

I'm pretty sure it's illegal under UK law for a university to refuse someone simply on the basis of their ethnicity/religion/nationality. I'll look into it because this is disgusting and it has to be confronted.

Now, Charles, it's anti-Zionism, not anti-Semitism.

Actually, I think it's anti-Judaism.

My first question is--is this real? Because if it is, it is one of the most appalling examples of racism I have read in some time. I would suggest the accuracy of this be confirmed. Then...

Everyone should refrain from invective. It is not necessary here. What is necessary is sustained exposure, because a campaign of significance (not mere yelling) could be mounted.

But first it must be ascertained if this email is a fake.

Nazism is not a leftist ideology but a fascist one

Dr. Lawrence Britt, a political scientist, wrote an article about fascism, which appeared in Free Inquiry magazine -- a journal of humanist thought. Dr. Britt studied the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia), and Pinochet (Chile). He found the regimes all had 14 things in common, and he calls these the identifying characteristics of fascism. The article is "Fascism Anyone?," Lawrence Britt, Free Inquiry, Spring 2003, page 20.

The 14 characteristics are:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symb ols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses, and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

#10 Yossarian

See NC's point at #4. His superiour is busy funding the PLO.

This is so incredibly disgusting that I just cannot find words for it. I've wondered my whole life how Nazi-Germany could rise to power and how anti-Semitism could take millions of people hostage. Now I know why. What is happening in Europe right now is trully frightening.

I will send this racist a mail and I will ask others to do the same.

Hi, Bob (#3).
Duvshani is a Sabra name, derived from pastries. Duvshniot are honeyed pastries in Hebrew. Regards to Cosmo.

Seems the prof doesn't only teach pathology, but also pathological hatred and discrimination. Are you open to some academic debate, prof? Guess not. After all, you are a lefty, know all that is approproate to know, and burn the inappropriate books.

ah, but it is the US which is the racist, bigoted society?

This is pretty common attittude in the UK. I"ll never forget talking to a British chap who had gone to the same Univ as me in the US (U Penn). When I asked him how he had liked it, he replied, bluntly, that it was too overrun with Jews and Asians. Moreover, the Jews and Asians were all striver types eager to be doctors or bankers and were none interested in poetry or philosophy as he was.

Bah, three/four layers of whitewash, and nobody will notice any more. The Howling Banshee™ should be here any minute now...

Is there a way to contact Wilkie's superiors and complain about his odious letter?

Yossarian (#10)--See my link in #4. I don't think his superiors are going to have any big problem with what he said.

re # 7
i dont think, that that professor represent all of Great Britain. In my opinion he only represents the academia (covering all of western part of the world)

Is Nutfield an adjective or part of his title?

Completely disgusting!

(I think I just damaged my keyboard)

What an asshole!

But, sadly, it brings to mind the Irish fellow who referred to the Israelis as "Jew bastards" in casual conversation with me. I really never thought I'd live to see the day when such blatant bigotry is "cool" again among supposedly educated people.

disgusting, repulsive, etc. Didn't javier solano just say there was no anti-semitism in Europe now? This guy is a total jackass.

That professor is in a world of hurtin now,
(that he deserves). Putting his racism into writing has consequences and now he will face them.

#16, That description sounds a lot like the Soviet Union and the People's Republic of China, both of which were/are LEFTIST regimes.

#22 NC

I don't think his superiors are going to have any big problem with what he said.

I don't think the U.K. authorities, nor the majority of people in the U.K., will have any problem with it, either. Which is why he was so blunt.

#23 Aleksandr of New York

i dont think, that that professor represent all of Great Britain.

Probably not all, no. However, ten bucks say there will not be any public outcry nor any consequence.

In my opinion he only represents the academia (covering all of western part of the world)

That, too.

Jews who buy Iraq property must be killed -cleric
By Esmat Salaheddin
BAGHDAD, June 27 — A senior Iraqi Shi'ite Muslim cleric has issued a decree, or fatwa, ordering the killing of any Jew who buys real estate in Iraq, an aide has said.
The Iran-based cleric, Ayatollah Kazem al-Husseini al-Haieri, also said in his fatwa that selling real estate to Jews was forbidden for Muslims.
more...
[Link: famulus.msnbc.com...]

I have a huge problem with the way that the Israelis take the moral high ground from their appalling treatment in the Holocaust

He's going to have a hard time explaining that he was only being anti-Zionist when Israel did not exist at the time of the holocaust.

#27 paganinfidel

That professor is in a world of hurtin now, (that he deserves). Putting his racism into writing has consequences and now he will face them.

Wanna bet?

Must repress urge to break something . . .

I wonder if this guy would give a job to someone who served in the Sudanese slave-raiding militia?

A Russian veteran of Chechnya?

Probably.

The only thing we can do is highlight this stuff in the blogosphere and pray that some Europeans start waking up to what's happening in their societies.

The mainstream media won't bother with something like this. Of course, they'd be all over it if some university guy refused to hire a Palestinian because of suicide bombing.

#11

The Nazi's that rose to power, i.e. Hitler, Goering, etc, were only nominally socialist, although they certainly had no problem with government direction of industry.

Nazi "socialism" was a convenient method to appeal to the vulnerable in society. The marketing plan was resonably successful and attracted a fair number of leaders who endorsed socialism. Most of these were purged from the party in the late twenties, and those that survived retained less influence.

Many members in the trade unions felt betrayed by the Nazi's. But a common sentiment expressed was that Nazi's were better than "freedom to starve".

#16 Quincy

Wow, is there anything there that doesn't fit every Arab/Islamic country? Has anyone ever heard of a labor union in an Islamic country?

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause -

The Islamist's pathological obsession with Israel would be laughable if it weren't so deadly. What's truly sick is the the Euroweenies agree with them!

#37, Spiny,

I think that Quincy was trying to say that the US are the fascists based on the above discription.

This little pearl from UK academia was posted yesterday by

[Link: doctor-horsefeathers.com...]

I believe the following is the source and the place to verify the accuracy of this instance.

The International Academic Friends of Israel, Inc.
P.O. Box 0412
New York, New York 10025
e-mail: info@iafi-israel.org

No education will protect anyone from being an idiot. On the other hand there is no limit how stupid one can get.

The esteemed prof is an educated bigot and idiot.

Here's the insect's home page:

[Link: www.imm.ox.ac.uk...]

Here's the Instiute's home page:

[Link: www.imm.ox.ac.uk...]

I already send that racist, Nazi pig my letter. I hope everyone does the same.

#16, That description sounds a lot like the Soviet Union and the People's Republic of China, both of which were/are LEFTIST regimes.

Is there such a thing as leftist fascism perhaps?

The 3rd Reich wasn't really socialist (economically) rather they practiced a form of crony capitalism

But, the USSR & China certainly were/are collectivist, authoritarian, tyrannical, and meet every criterion in the 14 pt list except for 8 and 9 (religion & corporate power).

AT one time I subscribed to the standard left-right model (which is based on pre-revolutionary french parliamment seating) but the model which places nazis and stalinists at one end and libertarians and anarchists at the other, makes more sense to me now.

In this latter scheme the true test of whether or not a govt. is authoritarian is how much freedom (both economic AND social) they grant their citizens.

Fascism has always been notoriously difficult to define anyway since so much of it is based on the irrational (symbol, myth, the idea of "organic" socities which mystically express "the will of the people," etc).

The Bastard Andrew Wilkie writes:

As you may be aware, I am not the only UK scientist with these views but I'm sure you will find another suitable lab if you look around.

Unfortunately, this prick is right - because the British boycott of Israeli academics has been spearheaded by the evil, moral-relativist Egyptian Mona Baker. Here's a look at some of her handiwork.

If you want to give her a piece of your mind, or a little something else, you can find her at:

mona.baker@umist.ac.uk
phone: +44/0 161 200 3081
fax: +44/0 161 200 3099

I think I read about it here on LGF; last year several Israelis were kicked off an academic journal (in the sciences?)'s editorial board, simply because they were Israeli, and the reasons given were the same as in this letter. There does not seem to have been any outcry about that, certainly not in England.

There are a lot of things about England and the English to like and/or admire, but one has to admit that overall they have never been exactly semitiphilic (is that a word?).
/dry vocal tones and subtle sarcasm

I suppose one should at least be happy that they were up front about it; I'd hate to be the poor soul who goes through the whole process to arrive at a position in a new country to find out that most of the other people I'm working/studying with can't stand me.

Maybe the new Chancellor of Oxford will do something about this ... oh, never mind.

The Jewish boycott has widespread and popular support in the academic community, supported by Left wing papers such as the Guardian.

This guy's the norm..

Welcome to the idiotic European Left.. Universities.. they breed ignorance

My mind is boggled. I think I will go and lie down for a minute till I feel better.

If he tried this on a member of any other group, he'd be mincemeat. I doubt if I'll hear anything about this anywhere else.

I am abbsolutely enraged....when this pathetic excuse for a human being says...

I have a huge problem with the way that the Israelis take the moral high ground from their appalling treatment in the Holocaust,

what he really means, is he has a huge problem with Jews not allowing the world to forget its own repugnant behavior in enabling the Holocaust

Lets pray for this scumbag to ESAD

Oh my Lord, please tell me this is hoax. Because if it isn't, you can surely bet there will be an opening in Oxford within the next few weeks.

Substitue any other ethnic/religious name in there, and that's a lawsuit brewing.

#37, #38

These 14 characteristics could be found in many countries, to varying degrees.

An obsession with security? Powerful and continuing nationalism? Disdain for intellectual and the arts? Glorification of the military? Sounds like the US.

Religion intertwined with govt? Rampant sexism? Disdain for human rights? Rampant corruption? Controlled Mass media? Try Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc.

No society really escapes displaying at some of these characteristics if you look closely enough.

every single honorable and rational person at Oxford should demonstrate for his removal

#48 Brian

Oh my Lord, please tell me this is hoax. Because if it isn't, you can surely bet there will be an opening in Oxford within the next few weeks.

It's not a hoax, and there will not be an opening in Oxford within the next few weeks.

Substitue any other ethnic/religious name in there, and that's a lawsuit brewing.

Yes. What's your point?

#50 ploome

every single honorable and rational person at Oxford should demonstrate for his removal

Now you know why nobody will demonstrate.

To state the obvious, Israel has mandatory conscription. "No way would I take on somebody who had served in the Israeli army" is just another way of saying "no way would I take on an Israeli."

it appears that his funding is coming from the Wellcome Trust at

[Link: www.wellcome.ac.uk...]

This might be a place to start making his life miserable.

Here's the e-mail address of the Vice-Chancellor of Oxford - I suppose he's the top guy until Patton is installed:

colin.lucas@admin.ox.ac.uk

#50 Ploome, here's the problem. This was relayed via e-mail. Not a written letter, just e-mail. It "could" have been forged, or sent from someone who doesn't really like Professor Wilkie's and his computer.

A full investigation needs to be done. If Amit wants to do something about this, he needs to post the unedited headers from the original e-mail to help figure this out. And he needs to move fast. Only takes a few minutes to delete any existance from e-mail server logs.

Hi, that was a good idea to inform superiors and colleagues of the disgusting professor. I have just done it. I have e-mailed the prof´s letter to the director of his institute and some colleagues. I can share the addresses with you.

andrew.mcmichael@ndm.ox.ac.uk (director)
lynne@hammer.imm.ox.ac.uk
cnewbold@hammer.imm.ox.ac.uk
roy.bicknell@cancer.org.uk
stephan.feller@cancer.org.uk
john.clegg@molecular-medicine.ox.ac.uk
liz.rose@imm.ox.ac.uk

GOOD LUCK! Go and get them!!!

Oh come on guys, cut him some slack, he did say the Holocaust constituted "appalling treatment."

/wretch

What's frustrating me a bit is trying to come up with a concise reason aimed at those who don't usually follow these issues and don't understand that this guy is aligning himself directly with people who think the "Protocols" is important source material, why this is anti-semitism and NOT run of the mill (although strident), well, political activism.

Despite the heads-up our top officials keep giving the Eurotrash--from Rumbo and Condi to Rudy and McCain--they keep giving us the finger, even after starting to sustain economic damage for it.

Which means things will have to get much nastier before they get better. If they want pain, we'll give them pain.

Good lord. First of all, what a racist ass. Second of all, what an absolute idiot to attach his name to something like that! I would expect to see those sentiments scrawled on the wall of the mens' room in some dingy basement at Oxford, not coming on an email from a member of the faculty. I guess it should tell us something, though--which is that the anti-Semites in Europe are feeling far more comfortable in expressing their racism. I'm really hoping this is a hoax from some former student who couldn't stand this guy for a petty personal reason.

Good to have Wilkie's email! I recommend everyone send him a piece of his/her mind on this!

Scumbag. I hope he realizes how much hatred will end up hurting his bottom line.

I work in a US publishing house that was just acquired by a European company. We all recently had to sign waivers that we are aware that we aren't to do business with Cuba, Libya, Sudan, or North Korea. They were also very explicit that American trade rules say that we cannot work with those taking part in boycotts not sanctioned by the US--specifically any European boycott of Israel.

The waiver was not so much for us--we know the rules--as for the employees in Europe. Because they do business in America as well, they are apparently bound by our rules, and so cannot either take part in the boycott or deal with others who do.

Shweet.

I sent Wilkie an email free of invective and generally foul language, since I happen to know that academics have a 45% chance of responding poorly to it.

However,

This did prompt me to wonder if I, in his position, would take on a qualified Palestinian candidate. (We may joke about the sheer unlikeliness of said occurrence, but it's still an idea.)

I decided that, if the guy was a legitimate top-contender, I probably would. It would be enlightening at least, and if he managed to create a hostile environment, I could always have him canned later.

Stupid free society... you have to love it with all your heart just to tolerate it.

I wrote Herr Professor - if his letter is an example of "higher education" I would rather be illiterate.
He is a disgrace to The John Radcliffe and makes me ashamed to be born a Brit

I, too, want some better attribution before I sound off on this.

But I wonder whether, if a Palestinian applied for the job, this guy would ask whether any of his or her relatives had been a suicide bomber who had murdered Israelis or refuse to hire the person because he or she belongs to a group which supports and incites such crimes. Probably not - he'd be so thrilled to have the chance to put his political sympathies into action by hiring a member of an "oppressed" group that he probably would not even check credentials.

you guys are mean. I did say the holocaust was wreched. Shabby cloths, bad food. Just terrible. Luckily it was less than 5000 people who were affected by this terrible state of affairs. But lets be honest, it was no worse than what victims of earthquakes face!

#16:

Frighteningly, nearly every one of those issues can be easily twisted by the frothing left to accuse the Bush Administration of fascism -- regardless of the facts of the matter. In fact, for a little primer on becoming a frothing lib...(in itals)

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Why, dammit...those Americans and their FLAG! !

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Look at all those Poor people in Gitmo!

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - You're Blaming the Muslims!!! Actually, we are blaming the terrorists, but if you associate terrorism with Islam, that ain't Bush's doing.

4. Supremacy of the Military - War For Ooooooiiiillil!! Part I

5. Rampant Sexism - Bush is WHITE CHRISTIAN MALE!!! Of course he wants to control my body! I mean, look at Laura's haircut! She didn't choose that. Obviously, this is all some throwback to classic suburban values, unseen since the 50s, or at least Mary Tyler Moore! ED ASNER, SAVE US!

6. Controlled Mass Media - FOX!!!! Nobody is taking Tim Robbins seriously!

7. Obsession with National Security - This whole 9/11 thing is just an excuse to trample the rights of the left. Remember the good old days when jack-booted thugs only attacked Christian kooks!!! Bring back Janet Reno. Will Ferrell is a Fascist Plot!!!

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Uh, Duh! Bush is always talking about GOD!

9. Corporate Power is Protected - War For Ooooooiiiillil!! Part II

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - My Barista Union is in shambles!

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - NPR is being oppressed! I can't get a grant on my performance art piece! West Wing is in the ratings dumper!

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - John Ashcroft Wants My BOOOOONG!

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Bush Jr. Is Waging a War for DADDDEEEE!

14. Fraudulent Elections - He was selected not elected. Where is this electoral college anyway? I've never seen it!

More on Mona Baker and anti-Semitism at European academic editorial boards---

Witness the following text from a resolution under vote by the Linguistic Societyof America, brought about by the behavior of Mona Baker et al. . . .

I don't think that this would fly here, yet. . . .

>>>>>>>>>>>>&g t;>>>>>>>>>>>>
Resolution from the Linguistics Society of America
(currently under vote by the membership)
=========================
Background

Last spring, Steven Rose, a biologist at the Open University in London, and his wife, Hilary Rose, a sociologist at City University in London, called for a temporary suspension of EU funding to Israeli universities, an academic boycott of Israeli universities, and sanctions against people working at Israeli universities, in protest of the Israeli assaults on the West Bank and Gaza. In June, Mona Baker, the head of a translation and cultural studies institute at the University of Manchester Institute for Science and Technology, dismissed two Israeli researchers, Miriam Shlesinger of Bar-Ilan University and Gideon Toury of Tel Aviv University, from the editorial boards of two journals which she edits. This caused a massive storm of protest. In December, the six ex-presidents of the Linguistic Association of Great Britain, led by Dick Hudson, published a letter in The Guardian expressing support for Baker, claiming that her civil liberties were being threatened, while taking an agnostic stand on the legitimacy of her actions and the boycott. Citing their past presidencies, they claimed to "speak for a large body of opinion in our field." In response, several linguists in Britain requested that the LSA consider a resolution condemning academic boycotts.

Two other incidents play a role as well. In December, the administrative council of University of Paris 6 adopted a motion demanding an end to agreements of scientific cooperation between the EU and Israel; this resolution was however subsequently rejected by the president of the university. Finally, Joshua Fishman submitted a complaint to the LSA Committee on Social and Political Concerns that the journals he edits were being boycotted.

The resolution as stated is broad enough to reject academic discrimination against Muslims of all nationalities as well as Israelis. It is distinguished from calls for divestment, in that it addresses discrimination against individuals and institutions whose fates are of little interest to the governments against which the boycotts are ultimately directed.

Resolution 2:

WHEREAS there have been calls for and instances of boycotts of individual scholars (faculty, students, and administration) and their universities, in response to the actions and policies of the governments of the countries or regions where these scholars work, or to the scholars' religion or ethnicity,
LET IT BE RESOLVED that the Linguistic Society of America opposes all discrimination and political sanctions against scholars in any aspect of professional life (such as employment, publications, promotion, conference participation, educational exchanges, and research collaboration), where such discrimination is based not on the conduct of the scholars themselves, but solely on the scholars' religion or ethnicity, or on the actions or policies of the countries or regions in which these scholars live and work, or of which they are citizens. Such boycotts violate the principle of free scientific interaction and cooperation, and they constitute arbitrary and selective applications of collective punishment.

Re #67---it should be emphasized that this resolution is
under vote and has not yet passed. We'll see where the membership of the Linguistic Society of America stands on this issue very soon. . . .

What is it with Europe and bigotry, anyway?

I have a co-worker from Iran. No one around here has ever given him any crap. It's hard to imagine it happening, actually.

The founder of the company is Israeli, and no one ever said a bad word about that, either. It just never occurred to us.

Here's a selected portion of what's on the Oxford University website on Equal Opportunity Employment:

"The Sex Discrimination Act 1975 and the Race Relations Act 1976 proscribe discrimination in, among others, the spheres of employment and education, on grounds of sex (including gender reassignment) and marriage (in the case of the former Act) and on racial grounds 1 (in the case of the latter Act). According to the Acts, there is direct discrimination where an individual, on the grounds of his or her sex or racial group, is treated less favourably than a member of the other sex or someone of a different racial group would be treated...An example of such discrimination on racial grounds might be a rule that candidates must have a British or European degree."

Thus, the definition of "racial group" here is very broadly defined, and in fact is later defined in the document as

"'racial group' means a group of persons defined by reference to colour, race, nationality, or ethnic or national origins "

Given this definition, it sounds as though refusing to hire an Israeli counts as racial descrimination.

Anyone have a different take on it?

Why is everyone getting so bent out of shape? At least he's being honest! No double-speak here. No using euphemisms. Stepping right up at the plate of hatred and bigotry and taking a swing. And with Chris Patten the new chancellor...well...what the hell would you expect?

#56: Thanks!!! Here's my letter:
Here's a letter one of one of your professors:

From: "Andrew Wilkie" awilkie@worf.molbiol.ox.ac.uk
To: "Amit Duvshani"
Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: PhD application

Dear Amit Duvshani,

Thank you for contacting me, but I don't think this would work. I have a huge problem with the way that the Israelis take the moral high ground from their appalling treatment in the Holocaust, and then inflict gross human rights abuses on the Palestinians because they (the Palestinians) wish to live in their own country.

I am sure that you are perfectly nice at a personal level, but no way would I take on somebody who had served in the Israeli army. As you may be aware, I am not the only UK scientist with these views but I'm sure you will find another suitable lab if you look around.

Yours sincerely,
Andrew Wilkie

Nuffield Professor of Pathology,
Weatherall Institute of Molecular Medicine,
The John Radcliffe,
Headington,
Oxford OX3 9DS,
UK.

Tel (44)-1865-222619
Fax (44)-1865-222500

-------------------------------

Just in case you haven't forgotten, the stink of anti-Semitism still hangs over Germany today and that odor is rapidly spreading through France. Once aquired it is not easily removed. You can duck the issue of Wilke's (and others) Jew hatred by pretending it's just another view, limited to Israelis, political, someone's private view, etc. but they will be perceived in many quarters for what they are: dodges and excuses. It will not take much for Oxford to be seen as a home of Jew haters. I hope you take appropriate action. Frankly, I doubt you have either the stomach or backbone. But who knows, people are always surprising.

Regards,
blah blah

I think we've been scammed. This one is way over the top. I don't believe it's authentic.

Fascists, Nazis and communists are all socialist.

[Link: constitutionalistnc.tripod.com...]

I'm willing to bet it is a scam as well. I just can't believe that anyone would be so stupid as to write an email that is so blatantly racist. Sadly, I can believe that someone would be so racist, but it is the putting it into writing--and thus, into the public arena--that I have so much trouble believing. There are so many reaons why you could choose to not interview/hire somebody--why go to the trouble to tell him that it is all about ethnicity? Doesn't make sense. I'm betting on a colleague with a grudge, or a disgruntled former student.

#16

So this guy thinks fascism equals any and all things of which humanism disapproves? He's not defining fascism as an ideology and then seeing if certain regimes qualify as fascist, he's taking regimes he dislikes and claiming the sum total of their attributes equal fascism. For the record, Pinochet was not a fascist, nor was Franco. This is not to say they were nice people, but neither of them ran a totalitarian state in the style of, say, Hitler or Moussolini. There is a difference between military dictatorship, which monopolizes power in the political sphere but leaves a certain independence in the personal, economic, and religious spheres, and the totalitarian fascist state, which demands the consolidation of all life - the totality of existence - in a single party, and, ultimately, a single individual.

Off topic -

The spiritual leader of the Palestinian militant group Hamas says it has decided to suspend "fighting operations" against Israelis.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

The Ayatollah sent the following to the "learned sphincter" my subject line was "well done sir!":

Dear Prof. Wilkie,

Please feel free to look yourself in the mirror each morning and say to your self: “it is because of people like me that Israel has developed a nuclear arsenal.” You have singled out an individual and adjudged her based solely upon her nationality- definitional bigotry without reference to the person, her ideas or her political views.

In denying an Israeli an opportunity at the University you are openly aiding and abetting Palestinian efforts to destroy Israel. You might be surprised that the PLO covenant still declares the creation of the state of Israel to be a crime and that all Palestinian maps and children’s textbooks do not recognize Israel, much less her right to exist. This is despite Palestinian promises in the Oslo accords to make such explicit recognition. One need only add that Yasir Arafat spurned the generous offer made at Camp David choosing war instead. We could have a discussion of the subtle importance of having a variety of people and the diverse opinions at a University, but I fear that is not an argument of any interest to someone as high-minded as you.

Given Israel’s overwhelming military advantage, were she desirous of committing serious war crimes she could do so in spectacular fashion. Quite to the contrary, she has done her utmost to protect her people with the minimal amount of force necessary to protect them. Israeli soldiers found to have violated Israeli law are punished; tell me Professor, have you ever heard of a Palestinian ever being punished for harming an Israeli? Israel has taken serious casualties from suicide bus bombers which Human Rights Watch has declared to be a flagrant human rights violation. There have been over 17,000 terror attacks against Israelis in the last three years; that should tell you who the aggressors are. David Irving denied the last holocaust and you are denying the attempt to perpetrate another.

So congratulations on being a complete worthless bigot. Feel free to write, I would love to hear how you can justify your actions as anything other than what it is. If you want links to pictures of little Shalevet Pas, who was shot in the head by a sniper, or pictures of the aftermath of bus bombing, I am happy to show you.

Sincerely,

British academics have many anti-Israel programs and boycotts in the works - against Israeli businesses, products, artists, musicians, students, academics, scientists, sports teams, institutions etc. In fact, there have been attempts in British universities to punish Jewish students who support Israel on the grounds that Israel is a "racist" country. Anyone familiar with the history of England would find these attempts to demonize Jews quite familiar. The only thing new is the excuse for the hatred. And no, no one will be punished for these attacks - the antipathy towards all things Jewish is nearly universal among British intellectuals.

Regarding the issue of authenticity, that's quite simple. If this is a simple forgery or a matter of pay-back, then the good Professor has only to take a moment to send a note denying his authorship and repudiating the positions stated in the email. Simple.

Amazing, proof that Javier Solana was full of doo-doo within hours of his asinine statement that anti-semitism no longer exists in Europe.

Smells fake.

Charles, what's the context?

I did not see anything at Naomi's site... Ddi Naomi send it to you? How did Naomi get it? How does she know Amit?

i just spoke to the prof, he said he made a terrible mistake and was going to post a retraction. but even if he does so, so what, its an indication of what going on in his mind and how he treats jews and israelis; im not blaming this on britain, we have it here too, its part of that leftist academia thinking that so fouls our atmosphere.

Don't let the nice accents and the so-called superior intellects fool you. Oxford has had more than its share of Jew-haters, more often than not, ideologically based.

I have a book - A Gorbals Boy at Oxford, by Ralph Glasser - which rather depressingly recounts what he ran into in Oxford during the 1930s. Not pretty.

A fool is still a fool no matter how educated he or she happens to be.

#83 Paul: He only said it was a terrible mistake because his venom ended up all over the internet. Sucks to get caught.

#83 paul: Can you elaborate a bit on your conversation with Wilkie please? I'm sure we'd like to hear exactly what he had to say on this issue.

If I were the Israelis I would save myself further embarrassment and let pricks like that wallow in their own conceit and arrogance by not applying to outside universities - particularly European ones.

The Israelis should stick to US universities (although I'm not sure they're any better) or better still, do the work in Israel. There's lots of "diversity" in all respects, in Israel, and the results of the research are better off not falling into the hand of those who don't deserve to know.

Pearls before swine.

#55 Brian.

The email is still on the server. Even if it has been 'deleted' it's still there. All that needs to be done is to use special software to extract it. The only thing deleted was the reference to it.. Is there anyone here who can contact the guy who recieved the email?

Brian:

Oh my Lord, please tell me this is hoax. Because if it isn't, you can surely bet there will be an opening in Oxford within the next few weeks.

Well, there's no opening available for lecturer at Hertford College, Oxford. That job is still held by Tom "Nothing but Hatred" Paulin.

They threw frothing fits when Harvard "snubbed" Paulin (Harvard cringingly back-tracked, of course) but as for shooting Jews, well, lots of British poets and scientists agree with that.

#83 Paul: Is your post a joke? Do you know this person? If so, what was the mistake? Printing his name? Just tell me, what was his mistake? Getting caught?

#73 Studsup

There has been an academic boycott of Israeli scientists in the UK for over a year.

Live long enough I guess..and it all comes right back. My Father told me about such "stories" when he was in Medical School. Incidently he qualified for Harvard and Yale..but did he have a chance in HELL to get in either of those and other schools..or did he, like so many of his friends with stellar qualifications..have to take what they could get? Sometimes NOT the best known Medical Schools... But what did they do with some Lemons they got..They made FABULOUS- NOTEWORTHY Lemonade.

Which Congressman or Senator should be forward this.)(*(&*(_ ?

Do you think we are going to hear--"You cant stay at OUR Hotel" again? or "You cant live in our neighborhood.." Dont scoff..it seems it can happen... Good G-d. I dont have any more words...Carry on...

I have just received an "unreserved apology" from the distinguished Herr Professor. As well as a letter from the Oxford University spokesperson informing the professor was wrong and that investigation of his behavior has been initiated. Well done guys!

Who is the next target?

I didn't read the entire blog, but I see very fitting that our friend CHRIS PATTEN, has been elected the new Chancellor of Oxford University.
A hornets nest.

This is not at all surprising.

The professor holds all Israelis to be collectively guilty for what he perceives to be their crimes. He might as well have used the crucifixion as his rationalization to blow off Mr. Duvshani.

Anyway, Duvshani is probably better of not working for this nutter, who obviously has an inferior mind.

Something tells me that Professor Andrew Wilkie is just a jerk-off, away:

On his appointment, Professor Wilkie said: 'This is a great opportunity both to consolidate my existing work and to take it in new directions - for example, we have interesting new data on the occurrence of mutations in sperm ....'

Whatever exciting new directions Professor Wilkie's sperm may take, at least it will be pure Aryan sperm!

I am sure that you are perfectly nice at a personal level, but no way would I take on somebody who had served in the Israeli army.

So he would refuse to work with:

Dr. Ruth!

Also 90 percent of the Israeli population, including Druze and black jews from Ethiopia.

What a wanker.

Oxford just made Wilkie apologize. He replied to my e-mail with a copy of the Oxford press release:

27 June 2003

Comments by Professor Andrew Wilkie
A spokesperson for the University of Oxford said:

“Our staff may hold strongly felt personal opinions. Freedom of expression is a fundamental tenet of University life, but under no circumstances are we prepared to accept or condone conduct that appears to, or does, discriminate against anyone on grounds of ethnicity or nationality, whether directly or indirectly. This candidate is entitled to submit an application and to have it dealt with fairly according to our normal criteria.

“Professor Wilkie has issued a personal apology regarding remarks he made by e mail to an applicant for a research degree at Oxford. An immediate and thorough investigation of this matter is now being carried out in accordance with the University’s procedures and a report will be presented to the Vice-Chancellor next week.”

Note to editors:

The full text of Professor Wilkie’s apology is:

“I recognise and apologise for any distress caused by my e mail of 23 June and the wholly inappropriate expression of my personal opinions in that document. I was not speaking on behalf of Oxford University or any of its constituent parts. I entirely accept the University of Oxford’s Equal Opportunities and Race Equality policies.”

- End -

I just received a response from him issued thru Oxford (came as a doc but here is the cut and paste):

27 June 2003

Comments by Professor Andrew Wilkie
A spokesperson for the University of Oxford said:
“Our staff may hold strongly felt personal opinions. Freedom of expression is a fundamental tenet of University life, but under no circumstances are we prepared to accept or condone conduct that appears to, or does, discriminate against anyone on grounds of ethnicity or nationality, whether directly or indirectly. This candidate is entitled to submit an application and to have it dealt with fairly according to our normal criteria.
“Professor Wilkie has issued a personal apology regarding remarks he made by e mail to an applicant for a research degree at Oxford. An immediate and thorough investigation of this matter is now being carried out in accordance with the University’s procedures and a report will be presented to the Vice-Chancellor next week.”
Note to editors:
The full text of Professor Wilkie’s apology is:
“I recognise and apologise for any distress caused by my e mail of 23 June and the wholly inappropriate expression of my personal opinions in that document. I was not speaking on behalf of Oxford University or any of its constituent parts. I entirely accept the University of Oxford’s Equal Opportunities and Race Equality policies.”

- End -

I applaud the university for taking swift, decisive action.

Here's my response to the good professor:

Re: Your letter to Amit Duvshani

Dear Professor Wilkie:

I am sure you are a perfectly good professor of pathologies, but allow me to point out that you, yourself, suffer from several: anti-Semitism, general bigotry, and a lack of humanity sufficient to see beyond the country of a person's birth and domicile, even for purposes of your personal dealings with him.

Whatever your uninformed views of Israel and its conflict with the Palestinians may be, and whichever side you may have ignorantly concluded is historically "right" or "wrong," here is an irreducible fact: Israel is a country where five to six million people live, most of whom were born there, and who are therefore also "living in their country." A very, very large number of them are also "perfectly nice at a personal level." But despite their niceness, terrorists regularly seek to murder them and their children, something which they tend to take very personally. Unaccountably, these Israelis do not simply flee from their homes, in the country in which they were born. Instead, they have organized an army, and serve in it for purposes of defending their families from those who wish to kill them. And yes, in the process of defending themselves, other innocent people are sometimes killed or hurt, because that is an inevitable consequence of urban anti-terrorist warfare. So obviously you could never consider having anything to do with a person who has served in such an army because it appears to him necessary to defend his family from people who keep trying to murder them.

If I am wrong in my inference that you are an anti-Semite and a bigot, and instead you are simply a professor who has written a very stupid and offensive letter without thinking much about what he was saying, you should issue a public apology for your remarks, since they seem to have become public. If not, sir, then, consider me to have made a very crude American remark about what you should do with yourself, and have a pleasant day.

Sincerely,

Howard F. Jaeckel
New York, NY

d'oh - jamie you beat me by a nano second - CURSES!

#16:

I am moved to fisk.

Dr. Lawrence Britt (what is he a doctor of anyway? Is he a professor anywhere?) is full of it:

1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays. Really? Did Suharto and Pinochet make constant use of the Indonesian and Chilean flags? And Hitler made the Nazi flag the official German flag, replacing a national symbol with a political one. How can you address fascism without emphasizing the elevation of party (Ba'athist, Nazi, etc.) over nation?

2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
The modern definition of human rights arose after WWII, so how can you say Mussollini and Hitler "disdained the recognition" of something that few thought existed? Isn't it more accurate to say that fascist states butcher their populations to stay in power?

3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause - The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial, ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
Are the people "rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy" or do they just agree with the policies of the regime in power, eg Hitler's Willing Executioners? And what if the threat is real, like communism in the 1950's or terrorism today?

4. Supremacy of the Military - Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.There is too much nonsense here. How widespread do "social problems" have to be to be "widespread?" What qualifies as a "social problem?" What amount of funding of the military is "disproportionate?" At what point is the domestic agenda "neglected?" When are soldiers technically "glamorized?" These are fuzzy liberal preferences, not criteria.

5. Rampant Sexism - The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
More nonsense. What government was not male-dominated until the 1970's? When are gender roles "rigid?" When, until the 1970's, were abortion rights even a real issue? Was Franco more anti-gay than, say, the U.K. in the 1950's or Johnson-era America?

6. Controlled Mass Media - Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common. So if the media is pro-government for any reason, it is an indication of fascism. War-time controls on the media are fascist. Right.

7. Obsession with National Security - Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
Fear of what? Motivated how? What masses? This is so broad as to be useless.

8. Religion and Government are Intertwined - Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions. Yeah, like Hitler embraced Christianity. Oops! Or Suharto embraced Islam. Oops!

9. Corporate Power is Protected - The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite. So when the rich have influence on the electoral process, and business gets money from government contacts, this is fascist. Which makes, like, 100 percent of the countries in the world fascist, unless they are communist.

10. Labor Power is Suppressed - Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed.Where to start... Labor is the "only threat" to fascism? Really? What about the French Resistance? And in what fascist state are unions suppressed but other civil organizations that don't toe the government line are not?

11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts - Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts. Refusal to give public monies to the arts is fascist? Really? And Hitler's Wagner fetish means he wasn't a fascist, right? Britt doesn't get it: in a fascist stae, all opposing viewpoints are silenced, from professors to priests to political leaders.

12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment - Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses, and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations. "Almost limitless power?" What does that mean? "Often willing?" "Police abuses?" "Civil liberties?" The fuzziness is overwhelming. Was the U.S. fascist in the 1940's because it had the F.B.I.? Isn't the real point that the ideology of the fascist party precludes the concept of individual "civil rights" on which the government cannot infringe?

13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption - Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders. This is the same thing as #9, isn't it? And aren't communist countries therefore the most fascist, because everything belongs to the state, national treasures included?

14. Fraudulent Elections - Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections. Fascism exists where elections are shams, or people are smeared, or killed, or there is gerrymadering or the courts intervene. What election does not fit one of these "criteria?"

This whole list is leftist agitprop.

#102 -- h-man
Don't worry, I've posted "first" on more than a few threads only to find that I wasn't. ;-)

Wilke: "I'm sorry---oh so sorry---that I got caught."

Dear Andrew Wilkie,

I read about your response to Amit Duvshani’s application for a doctoral position in your college.

I must say that I am disgusted.

The “appalling human rights abuses” you point to (yet do not find the time to name) are almost irrelevant when compared to the atrocities committed by Palestinians trying to destroy Israel.

For example, in June 2002, a Palestinian gunman broke in to the Shabo household in Itamar. He shot a mother, five of her children and a neighbour that came to resuce them. The mother, three of the children and the neighbour were killed. Avishai was the youngest, just 5 years old.

I think it is fair to call that an appalling human rights abuse, though it would be more accurately termed as terrorism and murder.

Just which human rights abuses of the Palestinian Arabs are the Israelis abusing? The curfews and checkpoints are necessary and an inconvenience, but are nothing as barbaric as the intentional murder of civilians. If you took the time to look at the history of the Arab-Israeli conflict, you’d know that the “appalling human rights abuses” came about as a result of Palestinian terrorism.

If only this were about Israeli conduct.

I’m sure you’d say you are simply anti-Zionist, not anti-Semitic. Martin Luther King said of this argument:

". . . You declare, my friend, that you do not hate the Jews, you are merely 'anti-Zionist.' And I say, let the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of God's green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--this is God's own truth.

"Anti-Semitism, the hatred of the Jewish people, has been and remains a blot on the soul of mankind. In this we are in full agreement. So know also this: anti-Zionist is inherently anti-Semitic, and ever will be so.

"Why is this? You know that Zionism is nothing less than the dream and ideal of the Jewish people returning to live in their own land. The Jewish people, the Scriptures tell us, once enjoyed a flourishing Commonwealth in the Holy Land. From this they were expelled by the Roman tyrant, the same Romans who cruelly murdered Our Lord. Driven from their homeland, their nation in ashes, forced to wander the globe, the Jewish people time and again suffered the lash of whichever tyrant happened to rule over them.

"The Negro people, my friend, know what it is to suffer the torment of tyranny under rulers not of our choosing. Our brothers in Africa have begged, pleaded, requested--DEMANDED the recognition and realization of our inborn right to live in peace under our own sovereignty in our own country.

"How easy it should be, for anyone who holds dear this inalienable right of all mankind, to understand and support the right of the Jewish People to live in their ancient Land of Israel. All men of good will exult in the fulfilment of God's promise that his People should return in joy to rebuild their plundered land.
This is Zionism, nothing more, nothing less.

"And what is anti-Zionist? It is the denial to the Jewish people of a fundamental right that we justly claim for the people of Africa and freely accord all other nations of the Globe. It is discrimination against Jews, my friend, because they are Jews. In short, it is anti-Semitism.

"The anti-Semite rejoices at any opportunity to vent his malice. The times have made it unpopular, in the West, to proclaim openly a hatred of the Jews. This being the case, the anti-Semite must constantly seek new forms and forums for his poison. How he must revel in the new masquerade! He does not hate the Jews, he is just 'anti-Zionist'!

"My friend, I do not accuse you of deliberate anti-Semitism. I know you feel, as I do, a deep love of truth and justice and a revulsion for racism, prejudice, and discrimination. But I know you have been misled--as others have been--into thinking you can be 'anti-Zionist' and yet remain true to these heartfelt principles that you and I share.

Let my words echo in the depths of your soul: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--make no mistake about it."

As I’m sure you’d agree, Dr Martin Luther King was something of an expert on racism.

It is not the least bit surprising that an Oxford professor would take such a stance when the new chancellor of the same university will not investigate how Yasser Arafat spends EU money, despite ample evidence that it is being used to sponsor terrorism.

Are you really incapable of removing your personal feelings from the matter and acting professionally? Does all of your staff agree with your political on beliefs? Or is it just Jews Israelis who get this special treatment?

I am sickened by your view that the Israelis “take the moral high ground from their appalling treatment in the Holocaust.” The survivors of the Holocaust did not “take the moral high ground”, they retained it, and still do today. Given your ivory-tower comments, I assume you never served in the British Army. If you had, however, would you feel it would be okay for me to not employ you because of the actions of the British Army in Palestine, refusing refuge for Jews fleeing the Nazis? The British sent thousands of Jewish civilians back to Nazi Europe and to death. I don’t hold this against any British soldiers, serving or retired.

Once I return from my combat tour in the Israeli army, perhaps I will apply to Oxford University. I sincerely hope that your personal opinions do not interfere with other applications.

You and your kind are a disgrace. It is because of people like you that the Jews need their own state and military.

Sincerely,

“I recognise and apologise for any distress caused by my e mail of 23 June and the wholly inappropriate expression of my personal opinions in that document. I was not speaking on behalf of Oxford University or any of its constituent parts. I entirely accept the University of Oxford’s Equal Opportunities and Race Equality policies.”

This does not cut it. He apologized for making Oxford look like jerks. He does not in any way make apologies for his view that Israelis are ipso facto pariahs, nor does he suggest he feels any remorse for his bigotry.

I wonder though, if it wouldn't make sense to keep the heat on his superiors. Someone like Wilkie doesn't belong at such an esteemed institution.

#100 Ann Northcutt Gray

Don't be fooled for a second. If this wasn't public, nothing would happen.

We wish to inform you that the party responsible for seeing that the applicant had been sacked, has been sacked.

"An obsession with security? Powerful and continuing nationalism? Disdain for intellectual and the arts? Glorification of the military? Sounds like the US."

Yep, looks like obsession with security to me? Airplanes entering buildings at high velocity are NO reason to have national security. Why get all hot 'n bothered about the possibility of nukes going off? Complete paranoia!

"Powerful and continuing nationalism?" You mean patriotism. The two are NOT synonymous. You see, the Nazis were nationalists. Americans love their country and want to defend it. We wave the flag because it's one of our few icons aside from the eagle or Statue of Liberty. If 9/11 happened in India, say, thousands of Muslims would have perished overnight. In America only a few tragic murders of Muslims occurred after 9/11. If nationalism were a hallmark of America we would truly see such "othering" going on. But we don't. The Prez himself, after 9/11, entered a mosque on national television to tell Americans not to blame Muslisms. As if THAT were even necessary!

"Disdain for intellectual [sic] and the arts." Now I'm one of those simpleton Americans who think "haute cuisine" is something you eat in high places so don't take this too hard but the phrase "disdain for intellectual" makes no sense. Perhaps it means "disdain for intellectual [arts]? Or does it mean "disdain for [the] intellectual. I see, so Americans don't really like art that includes body parts and feces. Meanwhile the U.S. has excelled in the arts throughout the 20th century as ANYBODY who knows knows. In fact, it DOMINATED "les arts" in the latter half of that century. As for the intellect, check out those EVIL Straussians whose Jewish "cabal" supposedly rules D.C. Oh well, if you think intellectual affairs in America are a travesty that's because left-wing academia, the humanities, has long ago been hi-jacked by Marxist, post-Marxist, post-modern, post-structuralist Europhile, nihilistic, and unregenerate frauds who are part of the true cabal that is ruining the minds of many susceptible young people! (Said, Chomsky, Zinn, et al.)

"Glorification of the military?" Sure, uniforms are not everyone's cup of tea (or should I say swig of beer?). But anyone who lives here should kiss the boot of any soldier who has served to defend our freedoms and secure those who haven't had it (Iraqis anyone?).

#78 Ayatollah and #101 Howard

Excellent letters!

My comment to the insect:

Your forced apology means nothing. Luckily the web will remember what a piece of garbage you are. You are no better than a Nazi.

New York, NY

Since several people are questioning whether the email from Wilkie is genuine, I've emailed Amit Duvshani to ask him to confirm it.

Note that this has been circulated on noted author Naomi Ragen's mailing list, and I sincerely doubt that she would risk her reputation without being certain the email was authentic.

#103 Faster Please

Thanks for the excellent fisking. I couldn't read that "list" much past #2 without feeling disgust.

But I read further down that the poster put fascists together with communists and socialists (adiposed to libertarian/anarchists) so I figured it was just so much poor googling and lack of reading comprehension to post.

But you have done a worthy service.

Cheers

From: "Andrew Wilkie" awilkie@worf.molbiol.ox.ac.uk
To: "George Washington Carver"
Sent: Monday, June 23, 1903 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: PhD application

Dear George Washington Carver,

Thank you for contacting me, but I don't think this would work. I have a huge problem with the way that the Negroids take the moral high ground from their appalling slavery in antebellum Alabama, and then inflict gross human rights abuses on innocent Night Riders because they (the Klan) wish nothing more to burn their crosses in peace.

I am sure that you are perfectly nice at a personal level, but no way would I take on somebody who had that much melanin and enormous penis, as it would frighten the womenfolk and give them the vapors. As you may be aware, I am not the only scientist with these views but I'm sure you will find a suitable plantation or shoe shine stand if you look around.

Yours sincerely,
Andrew Wilkie

Nuffield Professor of Pathology,
Weatherall Institute of Molecular Medicine,
The John Radcliffe,
Headington,
Oxford OX3 9DS,
UK.

PS - this "peanut butter" idea of yours is frankly ridiculous.

As Wilkie has "apologized" for his letter, I'm assuming it's authentic.

In making hiring decisions, Wilkie was acting on behalf of the university, not himself (unless he was planning to pay the person's salary out of his own funds.) It is an act of stunning arrogance to believe that he has a right to inject his personal political opinions into such a hiring decision. In effect, he is attempting to use university resources as his own personal property. To me, this seems similar morally, if not legally, to the actions of a company executive who takes company property for his own use.

#115 hobgoblin

Thanks for the kind words.

to those who addressed questions to me, it was a short conversation, which ive quoted in my first post. no, i dont know him, ive been surprised by how often you can just pick up a phone and get someone, and how often the antisemetic ones will attempt to backtrack (i did that once with that scummy bookstore, i think near cambridge, that boycotted israeli books, i got a couple of staff members to finally say that they thought the policy couldnt be justified); i think its worth making the calls, sending email, you wont change their antisemetic little minds if theyre true antisemites, but you might get the ones who are just "fashion" anti semites to rethink their position, at the very least youll let the scums know that out there in the real world there are people who find their views disgusting

#114 Charles

It's genuine. Apparently Wilkie has already been forced by Oxford to issue an "apology". Read a few posts up.

Just received this:

Please find attached my unreserved apology for what I have done. I was wrong.

Yours sincerely

Andrew Wilkie

27 June 2003

Comments by Professor Andrew Wilkie
A spokesperson for the University of Oxford said:
“Our staff may hold strongly felt personal opinions. Freedom of expression is a fundamental tenet of University life, but under no circumstances are we prepared to accept or condone conduct that appears to, or does, discriminate against anyone on grounds of ethnicity or nationality, whether directly or indirectly. This candidate is entitled to submit an application and to have it dealt with fairly according to our normal criteria.
“Professor Wilkie has issued a personal apology regarding remarks he made by e mail to an applicant for a research degree at Oxford. An immediate and thorough investigation of this matter is now being carried out in accordance with the University’s procedures and a report will be presented to the Vice-Chancellor next week.”
Note to editors:
The full text of Professor Wilkie’s apology is:
“I recognise and apologise for any distress caused by my e mail of 23 June and the wholly inappropriate expression of my personal opinions in that document. I was not speaking on behalf of Oxford University or any of its constituent parts. I entirely accept the University of Oxford’s Equal Opportunities and Race Equality policies.”

- End -

#116 iowahawk

PLEASE send that to him!

#123

It is priceless. To late though, I already sent it to him. With a link to here so he can back in his newfound infamy.

boy, just wait until the Four Horsemen find out about this.

#41 Quincy - stalin himself told his politbureau that he regarded communism as no different than naziism. He then went on to describe the similarities between his blend and facism.

He wasnt a fool either.

er, the other three. Sorry

I sent the following to the Wellcome Trust:

contact@wellcome.ac.uk

I understand the Wellcome Trust fund's the work of Dr. Wilkie (Oxford). Here's an email he sent a student:

“I recognise and apologise for any distress caused by my e mail of 23 June and the wholly inappropriate expression of my personal opinions in that document. I was not speaking on behalf of Oxford University or any of its constituent parts. I entirely accept the University of Oxford’s Equal Opportunities and Race Equality policies.”

It is with deep gratitude accept your gracious apology, and wish you well in your future endeavors after your immediate resignation from Oxford University.

To that may I add a sincere fuck you, you fucking fuck.

Please find attached my unreserved apology for what I have done. I was wrong.

Please feel free to circulate this letter.

Yours sincerely

Andrew Wilkie

27 June 2003

Comments by Professor Andrew Wilkie
A spokesperson for the University of Oxford said:
“Our staff may hold strongly felt personal opinions. Freedom of expression is a fundamental tenet of University life, but under no circumstances are we prepared to accept or condone conduct that appears to, or does, discriminate against anyone on grounds of ethnicity or nationality, whether directly or indirectly. This candidate is entitled to submit an application and to have it dealt with fairly according to our normal criteria.
“Professor Wilkie has issued a personal apology regarding remarks he made by e mail to an applicant for a research degree at Oxford. An immediate and thorough investigation of this matter is now being carried out in accordance with the University’s procedures and a report will be presented to the Vice-Chancellor next week.”
Note to editors:
The full text of Professor Wilkie’s apology is:
“I recognise and apologise for any distress caused by my e mail of 23 June and the wholly inappropriate expression of my personal opinions in that document. I was not speaking on behalf of Oxford University or any of its constituent parts. I entirely accept the University of Oxford’s Equal Opportunities and Race Equality policies.”

- End -

Please find attached my unreserved apology for what I have done. I was wrong.

Please feel free to circulate this letter.

Yours sincerely

Andrew Wilkie

27 June 2003

Comments by Professor Andrew Wilkie
A spokesperson for the University of Oxford said:
“Our staff may hold strongly felt personal opinions. Freedom of expression is a fundamental tenet of University life, but under no circumstances are we prepared to accept or condone conduct that appears to, or does, discriminate against anyone on grounds of ethnicity or nationality, whether directly or indirectly. This candidate is entitled to submit an application and to have it dealt with fairly according to our normal criteria.
“Professor Wilkie has issued a personal apology regarding remarks he made by e mail to an applicant for a research degree at Oxford. An immediate and thorough investigation of this matter is now being carried out in accordance with the University’s procedures and a report will be presented to the Vice-Chancellor next week.”
Note to editors:
The full text of Professor Wilkie’s apology is:
“I recognise and apologise for any distress caused by my e mail of 23 June and the wholly inappropriate expression of my personal opinions in that document. I was not speaking on behalf of Oxford University or any of its constituent parts. I entirely accept the University of Oxford’s Equal Opportunities and Race Equality policies.”

- End -

MY EMAIL TO HIM

I am no fan of Israel. And I am not Jewish. Unfortunately, you typify a strain of academia which is infecting our Western universities. It is an infection of ignorance and a racism further exacerbated by blinding "Ivory Tower" arrogance.

You're an amateur. If you were truly an exceptional scientist, you would measure a man by his merit, not by his race or religion.

Welcome to the world of the Internet. Prepare to defend yourself.

#116 iowahawk

I am actually laughing out loud.

Oh.... siht..

"the vapors"

"enormous penis"

pitch-perfect.

and oh so sweet that you sent it james 124.

whoops, sorry for the double post!

#120 Paul

What is a ""fashion" anti semite(s)"?

Since he caved I wrote him back:

Dr Professor Wilkie,

While I cannot apologize for the anger in my message, I acknowledge that you are big enough to admit you were wrong; most people would not do even that.

I sincerely think you need to educate yourself more as to what is really going on in the Israel Palestinian struggle.

Ask yourself four questions:

What obligations did the Palestinians undertake at Oslo?
How have they done in meeting those obligations?
What is the exact legal status of the PLO charter?
What is being broadcast on Palestinian media?

I do not believe that Israel is perfect; but, if you look at the facts, you will find that Israel and her people truly seek a two-state peaceful solution and nothing more. I believe she is entitled to nothing less.

I again commend you for stepping forward and admitting your error.

I don't doubt that this letter is genuine. I also don't doubt that the professor of psychopathology would be shocked to know that so many people are offended by his idiocy.

In the warped minds of so many leftist academics (sorry for redundancy), Israel is practicing apartheid a la South Africa pre - de Clerk; therefore, their "boycott" is virtuous. They turn a blind eye to Palestinian barbarism just like they did when Winnie and her goons were "necklacing" their enemies. To morally bereft assholes like Wilkie, the end justifies the means.

Liberalism was once a noble, if misguided doctrine. The Wilikies of the world have turned it into a joke.

... inflict gross human rights abuses on the Palestinians because they (the Palestinians) wish to live in their own country.

Wrong, you idiot. It's because -- now listen closely, because we're only going to go over this one more time -- they (the Palestinians) target and kill civilians and do so in as greusome a fashion as possible to create the most horror and shock.

What part of this is not clear?

How is Oxford funded?

The lesson we are learning with our ex-friends from France, is that first you have to get their attention before you send your message. And the best way to do that seems to be through the pocketbook.

I don't think an American boycott of Oxford is feasible, but nevertheless ... how *is* Oxford funded?

Caton was right

Stick to science Mr. Wilkie. Get it straight, the goal of Israeli's is not to target the innocent and civilians to provoke violence and disturb peace. That is the Palestinian way, by and large, and endoctrinated in their system of belief. You're a scientist right?... use your powers of reason to see through the biases you've created and/or encountered.

p.s. You owe him an apology...

A letter I sent to list of email addresses posted by #56 Helena:

andrew.mcmichael@ndm.ox.ac.uk (director)
lynne@hammer.imm.ox.ac.uk
cnewbold@hammer.imm.ox.ac.uk
roy.bicknell@cancer.org.uk
stephan.feller@cancer.org.uk
john.clegg@molecular-medicine.ox.ac.uk
liz.rose@imm.ox.ac.uk

Despite that racist Wilkie's forced apology, I sent the following to the Wellcome Trust:


--LETTER TO WELLCOME TRUST DELETED FOR BREVITY---

Regards,

New York City

--------------------

I hope they look at their funding of Oxford. I'm sure there are better places to place their dollar than a racist, Jew-hating school like yours. Perhaps they can fund Hebrew University.

--END OF LETTER

The Oxford Website Contact Page
is here to post comments to.

#136 He didn't admit he was wrong. Just sorry anyone took it badly. Like most racists, he's a craven coward.

a "fashion" anti semite is someone who isnt truely antisemetic, probably has never really thought through issues like the holocust, mideast: but their friends (particularly if theyre in academia, or the traditional media)include many who display an antipathy towards jews/israelis, so they just kind of go along. the fashion anti semite can be helped, the true anti semite, usually cant.

I have just posted my personal reaction to this descration on my site, if you're intereste.

www.rogerlsimon.com

that is an absolute disgrace again the left shows its racist face. Andrew Wilkie striped away this mans individuality almost going as far as dehumanizing him he only can identify his as part of a group (isreal) and then rejects him out of hand because Andrew Wilkie thinks that israelis are all collectivly guilty because in his twisted left wing world it is israel that inflicts gross human rights abuses not the terrorists whos goal it is to finish the holocaust that Andrew Wilkie thinks is just some convenient excuse that jews use to futher their agenda.

#44 Glen

Very British humor, is not it? This Paten?

Does anyone have a link to Willkie's apology or Oxford's statement? I was not able to find it on the internet--thanks

Despite the apology we need to continue to contact the names which appear in many of the posts.

His dismissal or resignation is required. An apology is insufficient.

#96 RE: mutant sperm

"What were you thinking, man?", the Chancellor ejaculated. "Get a grip on yourself!"

I'd be interested to know more about this professor, particularly his age. The very fact that he would have responded to this applicant, in such a racist way, via email indicates a certain ingnorance about the way information gets around these days. I imagine he is sitting back in his office muttering about these "damnable blogs," dismayed that so many people seem to care about his email. I'm sure in the old days that such a matter wouldn't have gotten around, but by now his email is probably up on dozens of blogs, and will probably make its way to "Best of the Web," and will probably make Instapundit and Andrew Sullivan, and then who knows. A couple years ago, only a select few would have heard about his bizarre racist rantings. Today, the whole world knows.

I believe I was the first to post the letter from Wilkie. It was then sent to Naomi Ragen. There was never any doubt of its authenticity since it was sent by Duvshani to the International Academic Friends of Israel. (See [Link: www.doctor-horsefeathers.com)...] and circulated by them. Anyway, great work by LGF'ers!! The whole English anti-semitci academic scene needs to be exposed. Keep it up

#42 SoCalJuatice:

Mona Baker is a little twit who epitomizes the Decline and Fall of Western Civilization.

From the link:

The Bakers are distraught at receiving thousands of vitriolic missives by e-mail. Holding one up Mr Baker said: "It's unbelievable what they are saying about her." The offending correspondence reads: "Arab dog, Palestinian whore."

Distraught? Distraught? WTF is up with that? I find it unbelievable that the twit has the crafty naivete to express even a dram of outrage. The whole link only conjures up a mantra cited many times on LGF: Free speech for thee, but not for me. As for the "Palestinian whore" comment, she should consider herself lucky if she is not one. Under shari'a, well, they leave no stone unthrown.

You guys rock(LGF and LGF Readers)!!!!! In a matter of hours you have these academic f@#$ wads on the run. Keep shining the light the truth and forcing the fargin iceholes out in the open.

James #124,

Argh! I was going to send iowahawk's excellent satire to the prof. Good work, still.

iowahawk #116,

That was simply excellent. Beyond excellent.

***

This professor disgusts me. It's a good thing that Javier Solana informed us that there isn't a wave of antisemitism engulfing Europe earlier today. I guess this isn't a symptom of a wave, really. If somebody feels that comfortable saying something like this out in the open, it means that his social circle is accepting of Judenhass.

I'm also going to write the Wellcome Trust, and copy the filth that calls himself a professor.

Caton...still wanna bet?

Tapping Mr. Solana on the shoulder, umm care to explain this?

Oh wait, that happened in the UK and not on the Continent. No problems then. Nothing to see. Move along now. We've got to make the playgrounds of Europe safe for tykes who might swing too high or far and we can't let anyone eat that genetically modified corn from the ewwwwnited states because, well, we don't need a scientific basis for what we do.

[/sarcasm]

#145 Paul

I think you're right. I guessing he envisioned gaining stature among his collegues with his bigoted rant, passing it around at happy hour or faculty meetings.

What an idiot. I emailed the following:

Dr. Wilkie,

When I was a bachelors and masters candidate at the University of Texas at Austin, several of the graduate students there were from Saudi Arabia. I trust you are aware that the Saudi Arabian government funded the madrasas and the imams that spread the hate that led to the September 11, 2001 terror attacks in the US. I assume you wouldn't mind then if college professors in this country refused to accept PhD students from Saudi Arabia.

As to your assertions that Israel is committing terrible human rights abuses against the Palestinians, are you aware that at Camp David Israel offered Yasser Arafat 98% of the land in dispute? While Israel has accidentally killed Palestinian civilians while firing on military/terrorist targets, the Palestinians purposely target Israeli civilians. Most of the unpleasantness in the "occupied" territories is due to Israel's legitimate security concerns. Roadblocks and checkpoints wouldn't be required if more than one Palestinian a day wasn't trying to enter Israel for terrorist activity.

Please be aware I am a US citizen, and I am not even Jewish. I do find, for an educated man, teaching at one of the most highly regarded institutions of higher education in the world, that your ignorance is appalling.

Regards

Edward M. Moran

I'd say this calls for a law suit.

I received this from Dr Wilkie an hour ago in response to an e-mail that I had sent him

"Please find attached my unreserved apology for what I have done. I was wrong.

Please feel free to circulate this letter.

Yours sincerely

Andrew Wilkie"

The text of the apology(on Oxford University letterhead) follows:

27 June 2003

Comments by Professor Andrew Wilkie
A spokesperson for the University of Oxford said:
“Our staff may hold strongly felt personal opinions. Freedom of expression is a fundamental tenet of University life, but under no circumstances are we prepared to accept or condone conduct that appears to, or does, discriminate against anyone on grounds of ethnicity or nationality, whether directly or indirectly. This candidate is entitled to submit an application and to have it dealt with fairly according to our normal criteria.
“Professor Wilkie has issued a personal apology regarding remarks he made by e mail to an applicant for a research degree at Oxford. An immediate and thorough investigation of this matter is now being carried out in accordance with the University’s procedures and a report will be presented to the Vice-Chancellor next week.”
Note to editors:
The full text of Professor Wilkie’s apology is:
“I recognise and apologise for any distress caused by my e mail of 23 June and the wholly inappropriate expression of my personal opinions in that document. I was not speaking on behalf of Oxford University or any of its constituent parts. I entirely accept the University of Oxford’s Equal Opportunities and Race Equality policies.”

#157

In the end nothing of substance will happen. These pricks hide behind academic freedom/freedom of speech and are insulated by the tenure system. I hope you're right, but I'll end by citing VDH. In an interview, he said, and I'm paraphrasing,...."the academy is a rotten insitution". His words are good enough for me.

iowahawk, just one question: How on Earth do you do it!? It's a gift.

iowahawk -

I'm crying over #116, and I'm getting a lot of really funny looks...

Just received the pathological prof apologies(unconditional)!
It is all about equal opportunity employement...Nothing about his political/historical /moral moronism.
I replied immediatly that it is Inacceptable and Unworthy.

# 144 Seymour Paine:

He didn't admit he was wrong. Just sorry anyone took it badly. Like most racists, he's a craven coward.

My thoughts exactly. He apologized for having been caught, but not for his belief that he is correct in the matter. The Prof is another fine example of the Decline and Fall of Western Civilization and Critical Reasoning.

If you're European and Jewish, it's time to get the hell out. Even Britian isn't safe anymore.

Pay attention. The canary in the mine shaft is dying.

......this scumbag is aologising for...

“I recognise and apologise for any distress caused by my e mail of 23 June and the wholly inappropriate expression of my personal opinions in that document.

he is NOT apologising for, NOR RETRACTING his personal opinions....

let him E S & D

#164 Ursuletul Mare, #165 Amy:

Since age 14, I have basically spent my time drinking beer and mocking other people. Now I only mock people who truly need mocking, that way it frees up more time for beer drinking.

#168 Susan

You are entirely correct. WTF are they doing staying in those horrible countries? I predict the French Jews will leave France entirely within a few years. Probably ditto for England and Belgium. Their lives are in danger.

Drinking beer and mocking a**holes - Man, you sound like a guy with his priorities straight! You ever think of writing short stories a la jonathon swift? you have a talent for parody.

172 was meant for Iowahawk

Great job by Charles, LGF, its readers and other netizens.

I don't post here much because most of my views are decidely to the left of the LGF mainstream, and I don't really wish to cause constant disruption.

But that really doesn't matter (at least not to me). What does matter is what this thread clearly shows - that the world is a better place due to LGF and its particpants.

And would be a worse place without it.

If you would like to get an idea of what your correspondent looks like, go to:

Nuffield Council on Bioethics

Never have so many bad teeth been assembled in one place. That's the craniofacial abnormality he should be studying.

From later in the apology:

"What was I thinking? How could I have been such a fool?

I am very sorry that I got caught. Why oh why did I leave documentary evidence? I promise in the future to keep my prejudices out of written documents, and instead to continue to express my prejudices quietly and insidiously behind the scenes. Spike the Kike with a simple "terribly sorry, old fellow, you didn't get the job" -- far smarter. Remember, Andy, no evidence, no evidence, no evidence...

Best wishes and Death To Israel, Andy"

#168 Susan

If you're European and Jewish, it's time to get the hell out. Even Britian isn't safe anymore.

191 hours and 45 minutes left.

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#175 Melissa

That is one ugly mother @#$%^&

BTW #154 Rick Z

Mona Baker is actually an Egyptian woman married to a Limey.

#11 - of course it is.
Some people think that because Trotsky thought the Nazis were too right wing they were not leftist. Some also think that because they had to move slightly right of their original Green Party-ish platform and as instituted it resembled something more like the Absolute government control of private captial stance of liberal Democrats, they were right wing. Just does not follow. So you see great explanations about how it was about intolerance and oppression - rather than the leftist system that gave all control to the government that it could behave thusly.

This is an prime example of Anti-Semitism, but it's not confined to Britain alone. Just look at the stuff coming out of US campuses, especially before and during the war. These supposed places of higher learning are on the forefront of Anti-Semitism. Also, look at some photographs from just about any anti-war demonstration before the war, intermixed with the anti-US signs you'll find Anti-Semitism signs also. And if you heard the invective you'd have heard sounds similar to the ones this british jack@ss made.Anti-semitism is alive and well in europe, but it also has a foothhold here in the US.

#171, Yeah, I agree. Shows how truly idiotic Europe is these days: chasing all their highly educated, productive, non-violent, ASSIMILATING Jews away while welcoming non-assimilating, non-productive, decidedly violent Muslims with open arms.

#174 Jim
I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Democrat (albeit a Blue Dog), but I like posting here even if my party affiliation doesn't quite jibe with everyone else. Don't let a difference of opinion(s) keep you from speaking up. Better you than the idiot trolls.

OT - Today marks Day one of the Great MidEast Farce - AKA Truce Between the Palestinians and Israelis AKA - Waiting for Terrorist Reinforcements, Part III, AKA

Truce Announced and Taking Effect

If I were a betting man, my over/under would be 10 days before some terrorist group decides to blow something up.

From Nuffeld Council link above #175: He trained as a Clinical Geneticist and undertakes research into the causes of malformation of the skull and limbs. He was previously a member of two Working Parties of the Nuffield Council: Mental Disorders and Genetics: the ethical context and Genetics and human behaviour: the ethical context.

Is it just me, or does this remind anyone else of that old Negro/racist theory that you could measure a person's IQ and aptitude by the size of their skull and the bumps on their head?

And wasn't there a similar theory among the Nazi's? Research to prove the Aryans had superior skull formation and limb length ... or something?

What the hell does "ethics" have to do with "genetics"? unless he's interested in cloning sheep. But cloning sheep wouldn't have anything to do with "mental disorders".

This guy is researching some *very* weird ideas.

Dear Professor Andrew Ignorantasshole Wilkie,

I hope your neighbors never decide they want to "live in their own contry" and start killing your children for it.

There are only two ways you get to choose the country you live in.

You can emigrate to one you choose, or, you can start a revolution in the one you live in.

The Palestinian can emigrate from his country just as easily as you can from yours.

But try starting a revolution in the UK and then tell me how much your human rights are respected.

Start a war with another country and loose and then tell me how much your human rights are respected.

Don't be a hyocritical asshole.

Re the University's press release, there is nothing posted as of yet on Oxford's press release page.

#188 Jonathan

Probably because it hasn't reached the media - yet. ;-)

Here's what I wrote regarding Mr. Duvshani:

Dear Sir:

I have today learned of your bigoted, antisemitic and factually inaccurate letter rejecting Mr. Duvshani's application, and I was utterly disgusted by same.

Perhaps you have forgotten that Israel is the Israelis' home, by virtue of the United Nations' partition vote of 1948. Perhaps you have forgotten that Britain voted in favor of that resolution. Perhaps you have forgotten that the Arabs rejected the U.N.'s vote and immediately invaded in an attempt to annihilate the Jews and destroy Israel. Perhaps you have forgotten that the Arabs renewed their attempt in 1956, 1967 and 1973. Perhaps you have forgotten that the PLO's charter still has not been changed to recognize Israel, contrary to the PLO's (now the PA) undertaking as part of the Oslo agreement to change the charter's language. Perhaps you have forgotten that Hamas's charter calls for the complete destruction of Israel - nothing less will do. Perhaps you have forgotten that the PA's so-called educational system, funded by the UNRWA, does not have a single map showing the existence of Israel and, along with officially-sanctioned mosques, systematically teaches children to hate Jews and to aspire to kill themselves. Perhaps you have forgotten that the brave "militants" (the euphemism favored by Europeans and other left-leaning dolts for cold-blooded, murderous terrorists) target civilians for death, including infants, toddlers, children, young mothers and elderly Holocaust survivors, whether they be at a Passover seder, at a cafe, on a bus or in their beds. Perhaps you have forgotten that these terrorists take shelter among civilians, in direct violation of the Geneva Conventions. Perhaps you have forgotten that there were no settlements prior to 1967, but there were terrorist attacks. Perhaps you have forgotten that there was no "occupation" prior to 1967, but there were terrorist attacks. Perhaps you have forgotten that, pursuant to Oslo, Israel withdrew from the populated areas of the West Bank and Gaza and that over 95% of Palestinians were under the direct administration of the P.A. until the terrorists took advantage of Israel's withdrawal and the open borders to perpetrate more attacks, thereby necessitating Israel's re-entry into P.A.-administered areas. Perhaps you have forgotten that in 1948, Jordan seized the West Bank and East Jerusalem, to which it had no right, ethnically cleansed the Jewish Quarter of Jews who had lived there for generations, blew up synagogues, systematically desecrated Jewish sites and refused to allow the Jews access to the Western Wall or any other holy sites under Jordanian control. The world did nothing about that. Perhaps you have forgotten that 850,000 Jews were expelled or otherwise forced to flee from Arab countries after 1948, leaving all of their property behind. Perhaps you have forgotten that Jews had lived in these countries for milennia; there were Jews living in Syria from the time of the Romans, if not before, which was long before any Arabs ever got there, and they had lived in Egypt for even longer. But I don't hear you calling for reparations or a "right of return" for those Jews.

I could cite you chapter and verse of Arab iniquities and lies and not run out of things to write for a very, very long time.

I have some questions for you, sir - If you received an application from a Palestinian, would you ask if he or she was related to a suicide bomber? Would you ask if his or her family received blood money from Saddam Hussein or the Saudi royal family or from Moammar Khaddafi? Would you reject such an applicant because over 60% of Palestinians approve of suicide bombings? Or would you be so excited to get an applicant from an "oppressed" people that you'd ask no questions at all? I think we both know the answers: only Jews must be collectively punished for having the temerity to defend themselves.

As for your revolting statement about being tired of Jews' invoking the Holocaust, let me tell you that the world, and Europe in particular, can never sufficiently atone for its role in the extermination of the Jews. There can never be absolution. The Jews have bought their moral superiority with their blood, rivers of it. I know that you and your ilk are frustrated by the Jews' refusal to simply lie down and die at long last, but consider: if the Israelis really wanted to stoop to the level of European critics such as yourself, they would have expelled every last Arab from Israel and the West Bank and Gaza, as the Arabs expelled their Jews, and been done with it long ago. Jordan would have become the Palestinians' country - after all, the Hashemite monarchy was imposed on that artificial creation by your countrymen as a sop when the Saudi tribe drove Abdullah grandpere out of Arabia. But you've never questioned the legitimacy of Jordan or any of the other "nations" invented out of whole cloth by the French and British after World War I, have you? Of course not.

Two of my three brothers are academics in American universities, and I am very proud of them and their achievements. You, on the other hand, are a disgrace to academia and to humanity. You should resign to spare Oxford any further embarassment.

Very truly yours,

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#168 Susan

I'm not going anywhere, Britain isn't France. Not everyone here mindlessly parrots the left pc garbage spouted by Reichsfuhrer Wilkie. The canary is still singing.

Hi guys,

thanks to all and everyone of you. I think screwing up this Wilkie was quite an accomplishment. I have mailed his letter together with my comments and his apologies (by the way he has just mailed me another personal one) to the media office and to the policy office of the Wellcome foundation as well as to the Press Office of Oxford and to the editors of some Oxford student edition.

Good night (here in antisemitic Europe it´s almost 11 pm)

Following ploome's link in #178, guess who the Chief Investment Officer is for the Wellcome Trust? Gary Steinberg. I don't know if he's Jewish, but he certainly should be made aware of what some of the folks he's funding think if he is Jewish and has a soul.

#190 Amy

Beautiful.

Wow! Man did I get this one wrong. I thought for sure it was a windup -- someone trying to scam Charles and LGF and then later accuse the extremist meanspirited conservatives of acting off bad facts (something that the mainstream never gets too offended about).

The hatred of Jews in some quarters is no myth. That's beyond doubt. I don't doubt that hateful biases are enshrined at reputable academic institutions (witness Columbia University which hired both Paulin and De Genova). What I doubted was that an educated University professor would actually document his hateful bias in a real world situation -- i.e. rejecting a job application. That part seemed incredible to me.

As for the apologies. All pretty much standard stuff from the file of canned obligatory responses. Columbia did the same with De Genova. Nothing will happen to this guy. In fact, he is likely already a hero to a large part of the academic left and Oxford will be afraid to touch him for violating their hiring policies, assuming they cared to do so in the first instance.

Thanks, Colt!

Never mind what I wrote in #194. Steinberg is in charge of investments, not scientific funding.

Amy, great letter in #190. Don't forget to copy the Wellcome Trust and the Nuffield Foundation.

#139:
"first you have to get their attention before you send your message. And the best way to do that seems to be through the pocketbook."
Good point. I've also heard that sometimes you have to hit a mule over the head with a 2x4 just to get their attention.

#190 Amy.

Awesome!

"#156 Ariel

Argh! I was going to send iowahawk's excellent satire to the prof. Good work, still. "

Unfortunately I got the form "I was wrong and apologized" email in response. I guess he is not going to read hundreds of individual "you suck" emails.

I'm surprised that no one has brought this up.
Amit Duvshani should definately sue The Weatherall Institute of Molecular Medicine, sue Oxford university and sue Andrew Wilkie.

If there are appropriate laws in England, then he should also consider bringing charges.

Joshua Scholar

As you may be aware, I am not the only UK scientist with these views ...

For the record, here are the signatories of the British boycott of Israeli goods. It includes 8 MPs, 2 QCs, and Emma Thompson.

All signatories to the Fascist European Boycott of Israeli Academics, as of September 2002 (not unpdated since then).

All signatories to the boycott of Israeli Institutions, as of September 2002.

Signatories to petition to stop Jewish contamination of British art.

#202 Joshua Scholar

You can choose not to hire someone for anything except nationality, religion or disability. Membership of an army is none of those.

One could argue that Israelis must do national service, it is not their fault, hence it is discrimination against Israelis.

Re: Sub topic on Fascism/Nazism:

Fascism was an economic system/theory

The Nazi's were Socialists (the words National and Socialist were part of the original german name of the party).

In the spectrum of economic systems Facism believed in the private ownership of businesses (means of production) under the control of the government. This puts them on the right side of the spectrum.

On the left we have Communism where the means of production are both owned and controlled by the government.

In the middle we have Capitalism - privately owned and privately controlled.

****************************************

The other side is the Political side. The spectrum runs from Totalitarianism/Dictatorships to pure Democracies. Socialism falls slightly to the right of Totalitarianism. The U.S.' democratic republicanism falls to the left of a pure democracy.

Those 14 characteristics can be found in almost any country to some varying degrees.

This concludes your economic history lesson for the day.

Oh, and I hope M. Wilke gets his butt fired!

#190 Amy

Hear Hear! Well said.

# 201 James:

He's a bigot, but that doesn't make him a masochist. But how I would love to read his "fan" mail!

#192, Nah: I wouldn't be so sure about that.

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#205: I guess most countries don't have comprehensive job discrimination laws like the US does. Sigh.

#205 - nationalization of all large corperations, regulation of the size and scope of private industry is RIGHT? Fascism is rightist in bizarroworld and on indymedia only.

Here's my first letter to the Vice Chancellor, copying the professor:

Dear Vice Chancellor Lucas,

Professor Wilkie at Oxford University has defamed the name of your institution by his blatant Judenhass. In his letter to Amit Duvshani, Professor Wilkie refuses Amit's application on the basis of Amit being an Israeli who had served in the Israeli army. Whether or not Professor Wilkie realizes it, Israel has mandatory conscription; Professor Wilkie's rejection of Amit rules out the possibility of any Israeli ever working for him. Therefore, his personal policy is in contravention of the UK's law with regards to not discriminating against persons based on their national origin.

On a moral level, Professor Wilkie's letter is even more repugnant. Professor Wilkie would reject anyone who had served in the Israeli army; essentially, Professor Wilkie believes that Israel should not have the right to defend itself. Or, since Israel is the only Jewish state, Professor Wilkie likes Jews (perhaps they are "perfectly nice on a personal level"), just as long as they jump into the ovens rather then fighting back.

Meanwhile, the undoubtedly illustrious professor was previously on two working parties for the Nuffield Council: "Mental Disorders: the ethical context" and "Genetics and human behaviour: the ethical context". I shudder to think what his "ethical" views are given his unethical treatment of a historically persecuted minority. I do not hesitate to believe that Professor Wilkie would not have dared write a similar letter about any other persecuted minority; for any other minority, persecuted or not, his resignation letter would have been on your desk by now. It is high time that Oxford show itself to have morals and stand up for what is true and right in this world, to stand against all forms of bigotry - even if Jews are the victims of that bigotry.

His apology is wholly inadequate. He apologizes, essentially, for having been caught. After a blatant violation of Oxford's Equal Opportunities and Race Equality policies he alleges that he entirely accepts said policies; in other words, besides being a bigot, Professor Wilkie is a hypocrite - he is willing to say that he accepts Oxford's policies even as he has acted in complete contravention of said policies. If Oxford maintains a Professor who is a bigot and a hypocrite on its faculty, it will reflect badly on the university, not just on Professor Wilkie.

Best Regards,

[real name]

#205 (again) - thats like saying Cuba is pro family ind individuality because even though the state assumes ownership of all children, you still actually get to keep your kid physically in your home sometimes and raise them according to government standards.

Ariel #211

Very nice.

This oughta be useful somehow:

The man who founded Wilkie's institution (the Weatherall Institute of Molecular Medicine) is Sir David Weatherall. He was one of the big macher professors in Oxford's medical establishment.

He has recently been named Fogarty Scholar in Residence at the National Institutes of Health in Bethesda - note the "in residence" part.

Shouldn't be too hard to suss out HIS contact info - maybe he'd be a bit bothered by the beating his namesake is taking.

Here's contact info for the Fogarty Center at NIH:

Office of Communications • Fogarty International Center • National Institutes of Health
Building 31, Room B2C29 • 31 CENTER DR MSC 2220
Bethesda, MD 20892-2220

The Director of the Center is named Gerald T. Keusch, M.D.

And he ain't the only MOT working there, ya, you betcha!

Maximus
This concludes your economic history lesson for the day. Wow, with so much brilliance, one can see why it's hard for you to be humble. thanks for taking the time to condescend to us.

by the way, the Nazis were the NSDAP. Any idea what the DA stood for?

The apology means nothing. If Duvshani resubmits his application ,more than likely, Wilkie will reject Duvshani again --this time saying that he's not qualified.

What's more likely is that Duvshani will not want to work at that lab because an academic supervisor who is anti-Semitic can do irreparable damage to his career.

The bottom line is that Wilkie will have achieved the result he wanted, having suffered temporary embarrassment that will soon be forgotten. If any other Israelis would be foolish enough to submit applications to work under this anti-Semite they will probably be rejected for being "unqualified" What's more likely is that no other Israelis will ever apply again for fear of what Wilkie could do to their career. As long as Wilkie is head of the Institute it will effectively be JUDENREIN.

The only way to ensure equal opportunity for Israeli applicants is to get rid of Wilkie. If we forget about this matter then Wilkie will have won and no Israeli will ever work again in his lab.

If we want to do something, a follow up committee and a campaign to get rid of Wilkie are the only effective remedies.

I'd like some input from British academics and lawyers about what pressures can be brought to bear and especially what legal actions can be taken to ensure that Wilkie is bounced. What are the chances that the people funding the institute will restrict funds to bring this about. My impression is that there's not a chance in hell of kicking him out.

# 190 Amy - What an awesome rant!

#210 Hi Spidly.

I have a Masters Degree in Economics with a heavy concentration on economic history. Fascism is on the 'right' of a spectrum of economic systems/theories.

Diametrically opposed to communism on the extreme left.

Please don't confuse political systems with economic systems. The NAZI party was a socialist (left) political party with a fascist economic theory basis.

Most people never pick up on the differences between the political side and the economic side. They are not taught the differences in the gov't schools as it is all too difficult to expound and get the vincibly ignorant students to understand the difference.

The differences aren't really taught unless you take advanced history of econ classes in college.

In re-reading my above post. I should have dropped Socialism into the economic spectrum. My mistake.

Examples:
Germany/France to varying degrees are Democratic Socialist - they elect their leaders (democratic) but the means of production have been nationalized (gov't owned - but not gov't directed )

USSR: Totalitarian/Communist: No real election of leaders (duh) means of production are owned and directed by the state (5 yr plans)

US: Democratic/Capitalist: Elect leaders; means of production privately owned, privately directed.

The email needs to circulate the globe many many times. He needs to always be reminded of his bigotry. I hope more of the big weblogs pick this up. I just sent it to Eugene Volokh so that he can share it with his many links.
He isn't sorry about his antisemitism, he's sorry he got exposed! He should be embarrassed as hell, as should the university. I wouldn't want him teaching my children.
Shame on you Wilke!

#146 Roger,

I think you hit the nail on the head with your diagnosis.

Maximus;

so again... some (small) private ownership of capital subject to the whim of government, govenment control of large industy, etc.. is Rightist How? It would fall to the left...

You describe capitalism - private ownership and control - as center in the spectrum. What is to the right of that?

Maybe you have too much government sponsored education.

#216, Motti,

This guy may be another Jonas Salk. Let him come to the US.

The US will prosper by taking the leftovers that Europe doesn't want, just like we always have.

Wanna know why Hollywood rules the entertainment world? There were all these brilliant Jewish directors in Europe in the 20s and 30s. They were doing tremendous stuff, then Europe decided to go on a Jew-killing spree and either killed them or pushed them out. The ones who survived all came to Hollywood and built it into #1. Billy Wilder, who lost his entire family at Auschwitz, was one of them.

Europe could have been #1 in film entertainment, but they chose to kill or ethnically cleanse all their best people when their film industry was in its infancy.

Now, they whine that the American cultural imperialists are taking over the world and destroying their culture with our horrible Hollywood entertainment monopoly.

Just like in the future, they'll whine that the horrible American scientific estblishment has taken over the world, with help from brilliant Israeli and Jewish scientists that they rejected.

#208 Susan

Only if a crazed muslim manages to climb onto the roof and hoist it there for a few minutes, before the men in white coats come to collect him.

Can't Mossad just kill this Limey Nazi SOB and make an example of him?

"kneecaping" a fine european tradition would make a better more viable example of him.

Oh course that would be wrong and I am not advocating it in any way.

Here's a link to Weatherall's current place of residence:

[Link: www.nih.gov...]

Here's the email address of the director of the John E. Fogrrty Center:

ficinfo@nih.gov

Here's the directory's page:

[Link: www.fic.nih.gov...]

maybe Dr. Weatherall should know what's happening to his creation at (Jew-Hating) Oxford.

Believe me, they pay attention to email.

Ariel #198 - Done! Thanks for the reminder.

Ariel #211 - Excellent letter!

Thanks to everybody else for the kudos.

I just got one of those canned responses from Wilkie - I wrote back (even though I don't think he's reading any of these letters) telling him that his "apology" is inadequate, since it was merely for "inappropriately" expressing his views and was not an acknowledgement that his views are themselves inappropriate. I also said that his carefully crafted statement sounded as if it had been drafted by an attorney. I told him that if he is worried about losing his job and/or being sued, then well he should be on both counts.

What a piece of dreck!

#223 Susan

Let's hope that a new European brain drain doesn't wash his ilk (Wilkie) in with it. He is "educated" you know.

Spidly, I'm sure that someone as "educated" as Wilkie wouldn't want to live in the horrible, "fascist", backward and non-po-mo USA.

From: (me)
To:
Cc: bioethics@nuffieldfoundation.org, andrew.mcmichael@ndm.ox.ac.uk
Subject: Professor Andrew Wilkie

Sirs -

it has come to my attention that your foundation is funding research conducted by Professor Andrew Wilkie at the Weatherall Institute of Molecular Medicine at Oxford. Professor Wilkie has recently written a letter to a prospective applicant in which he states that he is unwilling to work with a potential graduate student because of that graduate student's national origin. While Oxford's administration has persuaded him to publically recant his views, apologies are cheap. I submit that
Professor Wilkie's views have not actually changed, and that his attitude threatens academic freedom and compromises his scientific integrity.

I urge the Wellcome Trust to remove its funding from Professor Wilkie to demonstrate its committment to academic freedom and scientific integrity.

(my name), P.E.

Wolfson FOundation is partially funding the Wellcome thingy..

is that the same WOlfson in Jerusalem..?

been trying to google it for 1/2 hour, cant find much on the WOlfson Foundation, except I wish I was on their list of recipients..:P

oops - I had the "to" field in angle-brackets, and it didn't print. I sent that email to contact@wellcome.ac.uk, with the CCs as shown.

From: "Prospective Grad Student" Amit_Duvshani@actcom.co.il
To: "Andrew Wilkie" awilkie@worf.molbiol.ox.ac.uk
Subject: My Application

Dear Dr. Wilkie,

Thank you for your prompt response and kind words.

I am in full agreement with your sentiments and will therefore continue to do everything in my power to destroy the Zionist political entity into which I had the misfortune of being born. Other than killing myself as soon as possible, do you have suggestions for ways I can help you and the other UK scientists who share your views to destroy the Jewish state while pursuing my career in Molecular Medicine?

Thank you.

#224, Nah,

"The short mustachoied Austrian will only plant his flag over the Reichstag for a few minutes unti the little men in white coats come to take him away."

Charles,

I apologize for not reading the thread yet as I am not at home just now. I hope that you will keep that same spotlight on this kind of obvious bigotry that you keep on the Rachel Corrie series of lies.

This is the great danger facing our Jewish brothers and sisters. Even in places where it would have been inconceivable only recently, open Judenhass is not only tolerated, but celebrated.

They must be opposed and defeated.

Damn them! Damn them! Damn them!

Eureka....!!!!

I found it.....the Wolfson Foundation

[Link: www.charitiesdirect.com...]

Berwin Leighton Paisner (these may be their lawyers?)

Internet: [Link: www.blplaw.com...]
Address: Bouverie House
154 Fleet Street
London
EC4A 2JD

Tel: 020 7760 1000
Fax: 020 7760 1111

Client list:

Age Concern Westminster
Architectural Heritage Fund [The]
Arts & Business Ltd
Ashten Trust [The]
Association of Medical Research Charities
Aviezer Wolfson Charitable Trust
BAFTA Endowment [The]
Barnett & Sylvia Shine No 2 Charitable Trust [The]
Barnett and Sylvia Shine No 1 Charitable Trust
Ben Gurion University Foundation
B'nai B'rith Foundation Limited
B'nai B'rith Hillel Foundation
British Academy of Film and Television Arts [The]
British Cardiac Society
British ORT
Business Community Connections
Central Council for Jewish Community Services
Chai Lifeline Cancer Care
Chemical Dependency Centre Limited
Children & Youth Aliyah Committee for Great Britain & Eire
Cohen [Denise] Charitable Trust
Diamond [Alan & Sheila] Charitable Trust [The]
Edexcel Foundation
Forte Charitable Trust [The]
Foundation for Christian Communication Limited
Foundation for Education
Friends of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem
Glencore Foundation for Education and Welfare
Groundwork Southwark
Hadassah Medical Relief Association UK
Help the Hospices
Heuberger [Bernhard] Charitable Trust [The]
Holocaust Educational Trust [The]
Jamia Islamia Ghousia Trust
Jenner [Edward] Institute for Vaccine Research [The]
Jerusalem Foundation [The]
Jewish Care
Jewish Secondary Schools Movement
KIDS
Kreitman Foundation [The]
Langdon Foundation [The]
Lauffer Family Charitable Trust [The]
Lord Forte Foundation [The]
Macfarlane Trust [The]
Margulies [Stella & Alexander] Charitable Trust [The]
Mentor Foundation (UK) for the Prevention of Substance Abuse [The]
Morris Leigh Foundation
Museum for Children [The]
National Family and Parenting Institute
New Israel Fund
Nightingale House
Norwood
Oxford Centre for Hebrew and Jewish Studies
Parentline Plus
Phillips [Ruth & Michael] Charitable Trust [The]
Porjes [Edith and Ferdinand] Charitable Trust [The]
Porter [John Robert] Charitable Trust
Project Hope, United Kingdom
Randall [Joseph and Lena] Charitable Trust
Research into Ageing
Royal Society [The]
Rubens [J B] Foundation [The]
Sebba [Samuel] Charitable Trust
Sherman [Archie] 1976 Charitable Foundation
Sherman [Archie] Charitable Trust [The]
Slough Islamic Trust [The]
Sternberg [Sigmund] Charitable Foundation [The]
Tel Aviv Foundation [The]
Tesco Charity Trust [The]
Trinity Hospice, Clapham
UKI Charitable Foundation [The]
United Jewish Israel Appeal
United Synagogue
Warbeck Fund Ltd
Weizmann Institute Foundation [The]
Wellcome Trust [The]
Wohl [Maurice] Charitable Foundation
Wohl [Maurice] Charitable Trust [The]
Wolfson [Edith & Isaac] Trust [The] (Scotland)
Wolfson Family Charitable Trust [The]
Wolfson Foundation [The]
World ORT Trust
Youth Aliyah - Child Rescue Limited

...........one more email....I know we can do it!

Here's a cut and paste of some of the email addresses which have been posted on this thread. Because of the length of the thread, I thought it might be easier to have them all in one place. I'm sorry I didn't ackknowledge who posted which address. Thought about after I cut and pasted.

-------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------

"Andrew Wilkie" awilkie@worf.molbiol.ox.ac.uk
-------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------

Welcome Trust. Funds Dr. Wilkie

contact@wellcome.ac.uk

Wellcome Trust Governors

[Link: www.wellcome.......]

executive board

[Link: www.wellcome.......]

directorate

[Link: www.wellcome.......]

-------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------

Here's the e-mail address of the Vice-Chancellor of Oxford - I suppose he's the top guy until Patton is installed:

colin.lucas@admin.ox.ac.uk

-------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------
Nicola Perrin
Public Liaison Officer
The Nuffield Council on Bioethics
28 Bedford Square
LONDON WC1B 3JS

Tel: 020 7681 9619
Fax: 020 7637 1712

e-mail: bioethics@nuffieldfoundation.org

-------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------

Wilkie's colleagues.

andrew.mcmichael@ndm.ox.ac.uk (director)
lynne@hammer.imm.ox.ac.uk
cnewbold@hammer.imm.ox.ac.uk
roy.bicknell@cancer.org.uk
stephan.feller@cancer.org.uk
john.clegg@molecular-medicine.ox.ac.uk
liz.rose@imm.ox.ac.uk

-------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------

About #16's list..........

An idiotarian friend (a friend as long as we don't discuss politics) sent me that list several weeks ago. She'd gotten it in a mass emailing from Howard Dean's campaign. So considering the source, I believe we are supposed to read that list and think we are reading about the USA.

Don't bother responding. It's bait being dangled by a troll.

#234 Susan

Lots of ordinairy Germans voted for him though. Very few people here would vote for an Islamic party, even if one existed.

#236 ploome

Thank you for the list, Do you realize that the Wellcome Trust is also on the list ?

#240 Lizzel

I didnt see the Wellcome Trust on this list....AAAHHHH, now I see it...

I knew th Wolfson Family in England are Jewish, huge supporters of Israel..I didnt know about the Wellcome Trust..

this is the letter I sent these solicitors who seem to repreent a HUGE number of charities....

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

:-)...I love the email I sent....

Quincy 6/27/2003 10:16AM PST

> Nazism is not a leftist ideology but a fascist one

All of your point's sound leftist to me (as in real world leftist...)... except for the state ownership one..

Try this book.

[Link: www.amazon.com...]

Mussolini was influenced by Marx but felt he needed a nationalistic movement to unite and industrialize his country. He hated the middle class, hated capitalism, and hated individualism..

The people that started calling fascism a reactionary capitalist movement were Leninists... not the fascists… they called themselves socialists..

Got to know the enemy if you want to defeat them… the way the modern left is going anti-Semite, well, better figure it out fast…

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&-D Bless Charles.

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There is such a thing as "Medical/Scientific Politics" Let me put this simply. It has been a practice for antisememtic Physicians and antisememtic Scientists to TRASH the work of Jews. It would be interesting to see IF this man and his friends have engaged in this type of behavior.

Just a thought..Any guys here in Academia and in Medical Academia writing here who know if this is happening in the US as well?

Ive just heard on MSNBC that one Arab Sports Team..of Handicapped Players will NOT allow their team to play with an Israeli Team of Handicapped Players. The beat goes on......

Well, I'll be... He is reading his mail. I just got a message from him that says:

"All I can say to you is that my apology is genuine.

Andrew Wilkie"

I replied that as a Jew whose father was the victim of antisemitic prejudice and quotas in higher education during the 1930's and whose mother's family was wiped out by the Nazis in Poland and Vienna, I would take him at his word.

This odious creep does NOT represent mainstream British thinking. This is left-wing academia in all its glory. The same filth flows through academia throughout Europe and into the US. I'm, not defending it, obviously, I'm just pointing out the UK in general should not be exemplified by this scum. I should know, I've been through UK academia to PhD level. Bastards!

Bastards refering to the left-wing academics, of course. Not you, gentle readers.

#61 Palandine
"Shweet."

Hmm. That sounds very familiar. Sounds like Jay Severin.
Are you, by any chance, located in the area covered by WTKK, FM 96.9.
If you prefer not answering, I'll understand.

I took a different tack in my letter to him, I tried to bait him, with a subject line of "don't apologize, you were right":

Sir,

Congratulations on taking such a good stance! It's about time someone stood up to those uppity Jews. I am sure you will take much heat for your point of view, they will crucify you, to make a pun. Stay strong, their control of the media will surely direct fire at you, but there are many out here who think just like you do. The Jews are everywhere, controlling everything. And everytime one calls them scheming, hook-nosed shylocks, they call you an anti-semite.

Regards

But he only sent a basic form apology back, i gather he is not reading the emails.

Amy.......

he didnt apologise for the content of his email...

he said:

“I recognise and apologise for any distress caused by my e mail of 23 June

and the wholly inappropriate expression of my personal opinions in that document

so the comments he made are what he believes.....its the distress he may have caused, and the inappropriate expression.

feh.....so he can be sincere.....

Amy

ploome is right. Wilke needs to resign or be fired from his position. Anything short of that is unacceptable.

ploome #252:

I understand your point of view; this is exactly what I said to him (see #227), and I have written to Wellcome and the other links provided in this thread.

But - I've learned that sometimes it's better to give an adversary a graceful way to retreat than to keep hammering away, which will only stiffen his spine and undo whatever positive results you've gotten. I want him to know that there are Jews out there who really want him to understand the pain he caused and the wrong he did, independent of whatever other repercussions there may be.

The fact that he did take the time to read and digest my emails, as evidenced by his uncanned last response, also led me to respond as I did.

Amy....I understand your point. You are more kind than moi.

(I thought I disabled bold.:-})

I wonder how the creep will feel if the Jews who help fund his research take back their grant!

Odd he will take grants and money from Jews,

guess he doesnt have "a huge problem with the way that the (Israelis) Jews take the moral high ground from their appalling treatment in the Holocaust", when they give him money!

feh

Thank you, ploome. You're a gentilhomme. ;-)

Amy, you say...

it's better to give an adversary a graceful way to retreat

retreat to what.? reconsider the application? Try and place the Israeli student somewhere else.?

or just enable this fellow to get away with an inadequate no apology, apology?

we dont have the right to accept his apology, he didnt harm or wrong us...

he just exposed himself as an ugly antisemite in professorial robes...

anyway, this no apology apology, reminds me of something I saw on another blog site......

regarding forgiveness..

"The lives of King David and King Saul illustrate these two approaches. Both committed sins, and yet their stamp on history is totally different.

"Saul commited the almost understandable sins of impatience and misdirected compassion, and yet the kingship was torn away from him. In contrast, David seemingly commited adultery with Bathsheva and had her husband killed in battle, but is nevertheless regarded as the prototype for the Messiah.

"The difference lies in the reaction of each to the one who chastised him. Saul's sins seem mild in comparison to David's. When the prophet Samuel questioned his lack of patience and resolution, Saul explained: "Because I saw that the people were scattering from me, and that you came not within the days appointed ... (1 Samuel 13:11)." It was their fault, it was your fault - but it wasn't my fault, he seemed to say. Saul's second sin involved misplaced compassion for the king of Amalek and their possessions. Saul had been warned by Samuel to kill King Agag and obliterate all the livestock. Yet he saved the king's life - as well as the healthy cattle. When confronted by Samuel, he first duplicitously declared that he had carried out God's command and then lamely attempted to justify his looting of the livestock by describing it as "the compassion of the nation ... in order to make sacrifice to the Lord your God" (Ibid 15: 13-15).

"Compare these self-serving justifications to David's heart-wrenching repentance. Indeed, David's crime was the more heinous; driven by sexual passion, he misused his power in order to send a rival to almost certain death. When Nathan the prophet heard of David's actions, he related the tale of two farmers, one wealthy and one so poor that he possessed only a solitary ewe. One day an important guest visits the rich farmer, who has the poor farmer's ewe slaughtered for the occassion

""As the Almighty lives, the man who did that is worthy of execution!" thunders King David.

""You are that man," responds prophet Nathan.

""And David said to Nathan, 'I have sinned before the Lord.' " (II Samuel 12:5-13).

"In all Masoretic versions of the Bible, there follows an empty space; at that moment, interprets the Vilna Gaon, King David wordlessly sobbed in repentance. To err is human; to seek repentance is to be forgiven by the Divine."

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

257 Amy

I'm a femme..:-)

#252,

also, the apology appears to have been made to the administration of Oxford, basically for embarassing them. As written, its not an apology to Amit Duvshani, nor to Israelis, nor Jews, nor the public at large.

Pardon my possible ignorance, but isn't this against British law, isn't it racial/religious discrimination?

If I received a letter like the one Wilkie sent, my very next act would be to consult a lawyer and sue for discrimination.

Time to send the Mossad to Oxford ;)

I am reminded of this:

We had a Jewish (oh, no a Jew, WAR CRIMES, HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSES, RACISM, OCCUPATION) speaker come to York University. The girl who sits beside me in class asked me, "Why are there police outside the entrance." I said, "It's that there is a speaker, and violence might break out like it did with the speaker at Concordia in Montreal." (I made sure to say "speaker" and not say "Jewish speaker").
The Arab-Canadian student near me heard me and said, "No, no, that doesn't happen all the time. It happened in Montreal because the speaker in Montreal came unscheduled."

There's a lot of unscheduled speakers in all Universities. I'm sure students commit violent acts, beat up students and break down windows and doors everytime someone comes to speak at a University without notifying the student body weeks in advance.

Why must he excuse another Arab's actions? I did not blame my classmate. I would never think this particular classmate has in his mind to do such violent things. Imagine how bad it would be for him to have to appologise for another person's actions based on similar heritage. So why the need to excuse?

Now a little off the already off-topic.

I must point out... and I will not hide the name of my professor anymore, as to protect him, for he did nothing to deserve my silence. His name is David Skinner who teaches anti-Americanism, anti-Israeli/Zionism bullshit in his Communication Studies course at York University. Whenever there was an anti-war protest or Muslim sort of event, he'd keep the door open. When there was some sort of Israel day (or something I dunno what, you will see why not in a bit) he shut the door closed as soon as the class began. If he ever shut the door at all it would be in the middle of class during a presentation.

Did he really have to block his class from seeing the Jews at booths with Israeli flags? In what way were these completely silent booths outside his classroom with barely any people compared to the amount of Israeli flags, disturbing his teachings? Definitely not noise. However, when anti-war activities were held in the same area, the doors stay open and the lecture begins later.
I still can't believe he was telling us about a New York Times article in class where the deaths in Iran-Iraq war were not caused by Iraq. For it was all Iran's fault, and therefore, the US should not take out Saddam. The article's proof sounded like a total lie. One student (definitely not I) said, "The New York Times isn't a credible newspaper." We know now, how true such a statement was. I don't rememeber him bothering to defend the New York Times. Not because he thought the student was right, but because it's such a big paper, and the name "New York Times" defends itself, that it wasn't worth backing up.

And more thing. Get this. We got to view IndyMedia website in class. There were about two times a computer was ever hooked up to a projecter in class. One time it didn't work, and the other time was to view how great IndyMedia was. What the hell?

It's this David Skinner:
[Link: www.yorku.ca...]

Not the other David Skinners who show up higher on Google due to their greater success and achievments.

Notice his increasingly stronger connection to Concordia in many Google results.

Anyways, look for him to slip up. Too bad he will teach another few batches of students how to hate America and Israel and Jewish Owned media (or the alleged ZOG) before he does slip up.

Is this 100% verified? If so, it's shockingly repugnant. He probably knows little about Middle Eastern history judging from his scant generalization and clearly has no sympathy for the victims of the suicide bombing, sniping and shelling campaigns (justified immorality, I'm sure). No matter what he believes personally, there's no place in free precious academia for this kind of boycott. Does he know the political affiliations of all his applicants? How would he like it if someone denied him an academic position for his idiotic political views?

I wonder if he'd deny anyone who's served in any military...or just the Israelis, with their holocaust moral high ground. Of course he isn't a bigot because he's sure the applicant is a nice person. and he even has some Jewish friends.
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On his appointment, Professor Wilkie said: 'This is a great opportunity both to consolidate my existing work and to take it in new directions - for example, we have interesting new data on the occurrence of mutations in sperm

he's living proof!

Regarding The racist academics at Oxford ( there are more than one - remember their poet "laureate"?)

Has anyone bought shares in "Welcome"?
They are the first to try and hit us economically. Wouldn't a taste of their own medicine be nice?

I am a student at the University of Oxford and words fail me. I couldn't believe his e-mail was real, but it is.

He should be fired. Period. In an ideal world he wouldn't be able to get another job at a decent institution with a record like that, but getting him the hell out of Oxford would be good enough for me for the time being.

He broke about a dozen of the University's own rules and there should be no legal problem in removing him from his post. Whether The Powers That Be in the University fully realise just what it is this creep's gone and done and will throw the book at him is another matter. If he's allowed to get away with it (and anything short of being booted out is getting away with it in my opinion), no student or staff member will be safe from arbitrary mistreatment of any kind. Abuse of trust doesn't even begin to describe it.

#266 Toby
Thanks for posting...

could you let us know how this is being covered, if at all, in the English media.?

any links you can provide.?

Still no press release on Oxford University home page!
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Professor Andrew Wilkie
Nuffield Professor of Pathology at the University of Oxford and Honorary Consultant in Clinical Genetics, Oxford Radcliffe Hospitals NHS Trust He trained as a Clinical Geneticist and undertakes research into the causes of malformation of the skull and limbs. He was previously a member of two Working Parties of the Nuffield Council: Mental Disorders and Genetics: the ethical context and Genetics and human behaviour: the ethical context.

Mental Disorders
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