One down, Arafish to go...

Thank God! About time. Must be nice to be a cannibal dictator from hell only to find refuge without impunity in Saudi F*****G Arabia.

Enjoy Na'aar Mr. Amin!!!

By "decent burial" they do mean stuffed with pig innards, wrapped in pig skin, then shot into the cleansing furnace that is our Sun, right?

Idi, we hardly knew ye!

Yes!
*virtually ululates, passes out candy, dances in the street*
Can't wait for the Arafish. As satisfying as a targeted assassination would be, I'm holding out for colorectal cancer.

#5 Evariste:

*virtually ululates, passes out candy, dances in the street*

Wow, they were my thoughts exactly! And they can film me!

Good news he was a monster of the first order.

As a Brit i am disgusted at the way Africa was let to go on into chaos after we let Africa go.

I am not in favour of empires or dictatorships.

Amin was a product of the British empire.

What took so long?

#7 No daft:

He is? Goodness. I've heard that the Mufti of Jerusalem (the one who was best buddies with Hitler) was at one stage chosen by the British too.

Good Riddence to Bad Rubbish.

"Hypertension" oh please. I remember reading back in the day when Amin was news that he had syphilis. And he was seeing witch-doctors to cure the drip. I don't know if this is true, I just hope so.

#3 Model4

Yeah, and they need to throw in all those stupid medals he awarded himself.

One less piece of garbage stinking up the planet and using up oxygen better used for other purposes. I hope that the present administration of Uganda refuses to allow his remains to pollute Ugandan soil. It would be far more fitting for him to rot in a hole in Saudi Arabia, where his grave will probably become a shrine for the Wahhabist antisemites.

Now it's Arafat's turn. Faster, please.

More great news. First the degradation of the BBC, now the death of a monster whose living presence in Soddy had been a victory for the Islamo-fascists.

I hope the news coverage prominently mentions that he was a Saudi guest.

#15 rayra

eeewehh, yucky. ;)

Yet another mass-murdering follower of the "Religion of Peace" is shuffled off the mortal coil. It's about time.

May he burn in Hell.

Thanks to the Sods, he escaped justice in this world.

Idi Amin was a killer of cannibals?

Why do you suppose it is that these guys seem to stick around so long? Idi Amin... Y-arse-er Arafish... Fidel Castro... I mean, everyone else seems to know when to check out, but THESE guys..! I'm at a loss. Does evil do something to retard the aging process? Maybe they're holding Death's family hostage or something.

#20 Flakbait

I've been wondering that myself. Perhaps channeling demons burns a lot of calories and keeps the cholesterol levels down. Though your hostage theory may be the answer.

Time for some crocodile tears...

Was Idi Amin always a Muslim, or did he convert? Anyone know?

I, too, remember reading years ago he was a cannibal. I had assumed he was just behaving as was the custom of his land and society... Of course, even converts revert to their past traditions at times.

I've been reading the threads about Amin on LGF these past 2 days hoping someone would write about his life history... I know that he was sympathetic to Israel, at one time.

C.

#19: Charles is using "Cannibal" in its adjective form, ya twit!

;)

Surely it is racist for Westerners to criticize this oppressed man of color's culturally mandated food preferences.

Idi Amin's cannibalism was simply part of life's rich tapestry.

Claudia

Cannibalism was not a part of the cultures in Uganda. He was simply a "Jeffery Dahmer" leading a nation. As far as being a Muslim, that's a good question. I believe he converted while seeking refuge, though I am not positive on this. On the other thread on him, I mentioned Jean Bedal Bokassa of The Central African Republic who was also a homicidal cannibal maniac. However, he converted after a visit with Quadafi. He also "converted" his country while continuing to slaughter his people and eat his political opponents. I wonder if Amin also had one of those magical visits with Quadafi.

The man ( I use the term loosely ) lived too long; maybe eating people is GOOD for you?

THe proper send off..... Deep fried in oil, packaged and available at the local cannibal lovers section... Ugandian pork rinds islamic style. Extra tasty, extra evil.

"My name is Idi Amin Dada.That's three A's, three D's, and one gun.

"I love American people. I want to say...I had two for lunch."

-- Garrett Morris, as Amin in a Satyurday Night Live sketch (quoted from memory)

That's "Saturday" (I was hastily retyping when the infernal machine erased my post).

#15 rayra ,

Let's do dinner.

With some fava beans, and a nice Chianti :-)

Terrific, one less evil bastard in this world. Now, moving onto more important issues, what's the word on Arafat's ETD?

This just in:

Idi Amin Dada is still dead.

[/SNL off]

OT: BBC revealed...

#33 zulubaby

Now, moving onto more important issues, what's the word on Arafat's ETD?

...

Idi Amin was not sympathetic towards Israel. Anyone in here remember the movie Raid on Entebbe? How he let Palestinian terrorist groups land hijacked airliners in his country and then the terrorists demanded Israel release all prisoners or they would shoot the hostages out at the Ugandan airport, and so Israel landed a plane in the cover of darkness and sent in a commando squad who killed all the terrorists and rescued the hostages and they got the hell out of there fast before Amin's goons could capture them. That is as best I remember it, I saw the movie a long time ago in high-school.

Idi Amin is basically the Pol Pot/Saddam Hussein of Africa. He's an evil evil man. He committed horrible genocide on lots and lots of people simply because they were of an ethnic tribe that he disliked. And he also ate people, and went crazy with syphilis. Eventually, with his country near collapse, he invaded neighboring Tanzania, got his ass kicked, then I believe he had to flee his country.

Anyone care to enlighten me if I'm wrong? Because I'm not 100% on all of those details.

Mr Pol (#36)

Help me out, it won't play. Tell me what it is, pleeeease? :-)

#38 zulubaby

One cricket chirping.

Mr Pol (#39)

LOL! But how do I get an exact time out of that?

#40 zulubaby

You don't. :-(

Mr Pol (#41)

Maybe Caton knows? Could you ask him? :-P

In the words of Jews everywhere, for time immemorial,
alright, let's eat.

#24 Claudia

Idi Amin was in League with Yassi Arafat. Check out the Movie Raid on Entebbe. Your the first person I ever heard say Idi Amin was sympathetic to Israel.

#7 andjam

you were talking about a Mufti -I've heard that the Mufti of Jerusalem (the one who was best buddies with Hitler) was at one stage chosen by the British too. - Could I get the name of this Mufti?
I want to do a search on his life and then use him to jank on the Palestinians in the chatroom.

#18 JamesW

Don't be so sure. The Saudi's use alot of foreign workers esspecially in the technical fields. Perhaps a Western medical professional "tripped";) on the power cord of Amin's ventilator; Or even better put one boot on the bastards chest and yanked the cord out.

#42 zulubaby

Better not. He'd do it himself.

#44 papertiger

Could I get the name of this Mufti?

Mohammed el-Hadj Amine el Husseini.

Mr Pol (#45)

He'd do it himself.

See, that's what I'm looking for, an ETD for Arafat ;-)

#47 zulubaby

Look at it this way: we need the "road map" to fail. Its goal is to create a terrorist state next to Israel, against which Israel cannot defend itself. The alternative is the Elon plan. Arafat will do everything he can, along with the Europeans, to ensure the "road map" fails.

Right now, we're better off with Arafat alive.

OT,

LA Times Cartoon Encourages Assassination of President Bush

Drudge has a link to it on his main page, here, and also an ongoing report about the Secret Service concern over it, here.

The left has truly lost its mind. Encouraging the assassination of the President is beyond deluded. It is fucking insane. I hope they arrest the cartoonist for conspiracy, and the paper fires him, and an outraged mob burns his fucking house down.

#49 Sydney Carton

I hope they arrest the cartoonist for conspiracy, and the paper fires him, and an outraged mob burns his fucking house down.

Forget the mob, but think again: who decided to have this cartoon in the paper? There's more than one person to arrest.

papertiger  ~ a professional tripped on the power cord.

oops. regains balance. leaves room.

LOLOLOL

Mr Pol (#48)

Right now, we're better off with Arafat alive.

I've been hearing that for years now, for any number of reasons, and I just don't know anymore :-(

#52 zulubaby

Well, he should have been killed in 1981, but the U.S.A. sent a carrier group and a M.A.U. to protect him...

Well, of course, I remember Entebbe. And, yes, Idi Amin was pro-Palestinian. But, I remember that prior to this, he had been sympathetic to Israel, I just don't remember the context.

I seem to remember that Israelis built the airport at Entebbe..?. there must have been some co-operation between the countries.

I also remember reading that he had erected a statue of Adolph Hitler as was immensely amused at Israelis' reactions.

C.

Mr Pol (#53)

Maybe I'm just wanting it so, but if he'd been dead since 1981 I believe there would have been a better chance of achieving peace (and at least some sanity) in Israel. Who knows though.

#55 zulubaby

If Arafat had been killed in 1981, along with most of the PLO leadership... no Madrid, no Olso, no Wye River, no stupidfada... of course everybody would be better off.

Sidney Carton #49

WOW

A very large percentage of the population is unaware of the liberal or Left™ bias of much of the press. They just read the paper and absorb it. It is cartoons such as this that will really make clear the moral bankrupcy of the Left™ and the liberal, morally corrupt, press.

It is only good that they reveal themselves in this way. Then they can be identified and defeated. Most Americans will just not tolerate this evil.

#49 Sydney Carton

Check again on the left label. Mike Ramirez, the political cartoonist of the LA Times Op/Ed section is about the only good thing in that section. I don't believe Ramirez was advocating the assassination of Bush. I think he's saying that politics will take Bush out prematurely.

Really - take a look at so many of Ramirez's other panels.

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

Sydney Carton (#49)

That is terrible! I know I probably shouldn't be, but I'm shocked. The world seems to be sinking into greater moral decay just a little more each day.

Cartoon vs. Photograph

[Link: www.ugandamission.net...]

OK. I just googled an article from The Monitor about Idi Amin's life, that states that he became a Muslim when he was a soldier.

C.

Mr Pol (#56)

So what are we waiting for!?

#61 zulubaby

It's too late for that. Madrid, Oslo, Wye River, and the two stupidfadas occurred. Eliminating Arafat now would be ensuring the existence of a terrorist state. Do you want that?

Sydney, Photios, Zulubaby

Let me repeat:
Michael Ramirez, unless he has done a complete 180º turn about, is NOT a LLL. He's the one good thing about the LAT Op/Ed section. While in particularly bad taste, I think you're taking his intent very much the wrong way.

54 Claudia

He was pro-Israel for some time. He even took the IDF paratrooper's course IIRC. An Israeli I know personally saw him in Israel in the 60s.

Still, I wish his chute failed over the Negev.

Mr Pol (#61)

I know it's too late, unfortunately.

Eliminating Arafat now would be ensuring the existence of a terrorist state.

I think there's a terrorist state already. Not officially, not formally, not yet, but it's there...

NTropy (#63)

While in particularly bad taste, I think you're taking his intent very much the wrong way.

What do you think the intent was then? I don't know much about this cartoonist, I was just reacting to this particular cartoon.

#65 zulubaby

I think there's a terrorist state already. Not officially, not formally, not yet, but it's there...

Well, last time I counted, there were 21 in the region...

Mr Pol (#67)

Well, last time I counted, there were 21 in the region...

Don't remind me...

Zulubaby (#68):

I sometimes think "Heck, why should sponsoring terrorism be a barrier to gaining statehood? Lots of countries sponsor terrorism and get away with it."

Israel would be a lot safer if some dictatorships underwent regime change. Sadly, many dictatorships use anti-Israel sentiment to remain in power. It's a maddening circle...

#66 zulubaby

If you can, follow the link I provided for Sydney in my first response. It'll give you an idea of how Michael Ramirez sees the world. He is not idiotarian.

I believe Ramirez was trying to say that Bush is being hijacked by the the nastiness of politics (for the sake of politics only) surrounding Iraq.

Mr. Ramirez is a conservative cartoonist. When I read about the cartoon, I thought, "Did Conrad go nuts?" You see, Conrad was the former editorial cartoonist for the LAT, and he still contributes something about once a week or so on his old page. When some people attributed it to a liberal, then the only liberal cartoonist still associated with the Times would the logical candidate. Not my bad, this time.

I am impressed by how many people jumped on it as a liberal stupidity. Hey! Conservatives can be a**holes too. The line between provocative and tasteless can be really thin, and Ramirez has really gotten himself on the tasteless side this time.

You don't suppose he listens to Rush Limbaugh, does he?

NTropy (#70)

Thanks, I'll check it out.

71 Dark Avenger

Michael Ramirez is the perfect counterpunch to the despicable Robert Scheer the Times feels is so important to publish.

Gone to be with Allah.
They sort of deserve each other.

Not so fast.

The Idi Amin story appears to have been removed from Simba FM's website, and the most recent stories on Google News still say he's in a coma.

[Link: news.google.com...]

Hospital staff say he should be in hell some time later today. (Okay, that's not exactly how they worded it...)

I don't think he is actually dead yet.
Sky News are reporting he is near death, but not actually dead.

I'd hold off on the pronouncements and champagne for a little longer.

Idi Amin was probably one of the only wealthy Saudi residents never to receive an invitation to a barbecue at Bush's "Camel-Land Ranch" in Texas.

Dada's outspoken buffoonery was unique in it's time, today his ilk are represented in a more acceptable fashion by Prince Bandy and Al Alaweed--but the soft-spoken Saudis still retain Amin's bloodlust--they (figuratively) merely eat with a knife and fork for the sake of their Western benefactors.

Dear God, we've slipped into a Saturday Night Live news update.

Jane you ignorant slut!!!

How dare you sully the name of the man who declared himself the Last King of Scotland.

No burial will be necessary,or possible.As a hero to the rabid, extremist Muslims found in Saudi Arabia his rotten carcass will most likely be torn to shreds by,well,fellow cannibals I guess.

OT......... (Sorry)

I am going to post the following link on several upcoming topics here on LGF, not only because it says it all, but mostly because it underlines my feelings (and probably most of you here) of "J'accuse" towards Europe's media and nitwit with definite, specific and unvincible samples of the truth. I wish I would know of a way to get this more publicized in the general press, so that they would have to defend their false integrity.

If we would, say, go on and on about it, maybe it couldn't be ignored anymore?

New Prejudices for Old
By: Tim Gross

Take your time to read all 3 pages - you'll find it worthwhile in the end.

So nice to hear that the bum Idi Amin has been deleted. He would have made an excellent member of the leadership of the French Revolution--not that they needed him.

one thing that wasn't noted about the scumbag Idi Amin was that when he allowed the Arab terrorists to take the (i believe) French (gasp!) plane to Entebbee, one of the passengers (an old woman) had to go to an Ugandan hospital, where after the rescue, and despite pleas from the US, Israel and the frogs Idi had her dragged out of her bed and murdered.

that Idi was allowed by his Saudi hosts to live the rest of his life in such splendor is just another nail in the coffin of the lie that the Saudis are anything but enemies, disgusting and deserving of America's full and forceful attention.

How fitting that this syphilitic brain damaged bastard dies in Saudi Arabia.

#19 Pedantic Twit:

No, but thankfully Buffy the cannibal slayer is alive and well.

#9 Andjam
____________

Yes the Mufti of Jerusalem was picked by the Brits back in 1920. As the ruling power they had a say. When he was picked he had already fomented anti Jewish riots.

LINK

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One says to the other: "Does this taste funny to you?"

I'm sure he'll get one of those tiered couches in Islam's SugarCandyLand[TM]. Perhaps the one next to the Mufti of Jerusalem.

OT but that Dragon magazine writer has published the second in that series about the destruction of America.

http://www.crisispapers.org/Editorials/freedom.htm

Apparently the "right wing monopoly on the media" is broken by liberal talk radio and a new liberal cable news network, everybody starts reading the Guardian, and all the moderate Republicans become independents. That's about as far as I got before my suspension of disbelief collapsed.

Oh, and the same article says that Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton "rejoin the public conversation" (when did they ever leave?) and that Phil Donahue's low ratings are because of his mean conservative management and not because he's a talentless hack.

"a decent burial"

Why give the bastard anything decent in death? He was the antithesis of decency in life. Stuff him with pig innards, wrap him in pigskins, and let him rot. (Oh, yes - and apologize to the pigs.)

Regarding the cartoon - look at the label on the character with the gun. The cartoonist is saying that "politics" (meaning the left and the Dems, I suspect) is trying to assassinate the President. The implication to me is assassination by political means. And he's right.

A great read...

Islamic Apostate's Tales

To those familiar with the Religion of Peace's apologists, this verse probably sounds very familiar:

“For instance, after September 11, 2001, many Muslims and apologists of Islam glibly came out with the following Koranic quote to show that Islam and the Koran disapproved of violence and killing: ‘Whoever killed a human being shall be looked upon as though he had killed all mankind’ (V.32).

Ibn Warraq (a psuedonym since anyone who publicly criticizes Islam is likely to be gang fatwah-ed) states that the actual verse in its entirety condones the mutilation, massacre, and exile of Jews:

‘That was why We laid it down for the Israelites that whoever killed a human being, except as a punishment for murder or other villainy in the land, shall be looked upon as though he had killed all mankind; and that whoever saved a life shall be regarded as though he saved all mankind. Our apostles brought them veritable proofs; yet it was not long before many of them committed great evils in the land. Those that make war against God and His apostle and spread disorder shall be put to death or crucified or have their hands and feet cut off on alternate sides, or be banished from the country.’

The article also contains striking testimonials, like this one were a Pakistani soldier recounts the Islamic clergy's encouragement of rape and massacre in Banglabesh:

“I saw a well-equipped invading army indiscriminately killing millions of civilians and raping 200,000 women. Eight million uprooted people walked barefoot to take refuge in a neighboring country. The institution of Islamic leadership supported the invading army actively, in capturing and killing freedom fighters and non-Muslims, and raping women on a massive scale. Each of 4,000 mosques became the ideological powerhouses of the mass killers and mass rapists, and these killers and rapists – these Islamists – were the same people of the same land as the freedom fighters and raped women. That was the civilians of Bangladesh and the killer army of Pakistan in 1971. All the Muslim countries and communities of the world either stood idle, or actively sided with the killers and rapists in the name of Islam…The message was clear: something was very wrong – either with all the Islamic leaders, or with Islam itself.

Like I said a great read.

The Washington Post uses the Q word on today's front page:

"Live, Noon ET: Occupation Quagmire?"
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

What a bunch of gutless buffoons.  I shudder to think of how World War II would have turned out with today's Democrats and today's media (is there a difference?) running things back then.
 

#20 Flakbait

Does evil do something to retard the aging process? Maybe they're holding Death's family hostage or something.

Job wondered that same thing.

But this guy is not stinking up the cosmos anymore. Idi Ameanie is gone. *ululates, fires BB gun, and passes out candy*

NT,

I posted last night at around 3am my time, and didn't have time to check out his other cartoons. At first, I thought he was advocating that Bush's political enemies pull the trigger.

I don't think that any of Bush's political opponents will be shocked or shamed by this, if that's the reaction he's trying to get from them. They'll probably think, "I will pull the trigger."

If it's a comment on liberal hype over meaningless issues, not the greater good, then I'm afraid it won't have the intended effect.

There's a poll over at CNN.com that people may be interested in voting on:

"Is President Bush doing a good job?"

52% say no.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]
 

"Is President Bush doing a good job?"

52% say no.

Unfortunately I would have to agree with the poll. Lately President Bush's performance has been less than impressive. First, President Bush never should have declared active combat over, not as long as Saddam was on the loose. Second, the Bush administration has been far too passive regarding this media concocted Niger "scandal". The President should have moved aggressively to counter the baseless claims that the war was fought under "false pretenses", the "16 words" the media are so fond of. Lastly, there is considerable speculation that the United States will seek international (ie. UN) help in rebuilding Iraq. This is a terrible idea since it is tantamount to an admission of failure on the part of the Bush administration. If the Coalition partners are making "great progress" in Iraq, why upset the equation by inviting in a troublesome international bureaucracy with a notoriously lousy nation-building track record?

#26 and #87....great lines! #92 read the whole thing! A bit off topic, but next Sunday in Calgary, Alberta the extremists ( believe it or not) are holding a demonstration protesting the "genocide" of Muslims through the ages at the hands of Hindus, Christians, Jews and any other non-muslim aggressors. Always the victim, never the victimizer. Found the details at a Brit Muslim website called MCAP or something like that ( no link unfortunately)

Dirk, I think a better poll question would have been: "Is the media doing a good job demonizing Bush?"

1) Bush never declared "active combat over." He declared an end to "major combat operations", which is true.

2) Bush handled a fabricated "scandal" poorly? Perhaps. I think the media handled it much worse.

3) Regarding "UN help" in Iraq, why not see what actually occurs on this subject, rather than what the media spins?

So, your concerns listed hardly justify supporting the poll numbers.

Of course, had Bush not been in the White House, we would not even be discussing bumps in the road post Iraq's liberation -- Saddam would still be in power.
 

[tripping]
De da da da (humming the Volkswagon commercial), and slipping in to the Imperial March from Star Wars.
[/tripping]

It's my belief that Idi will find a home somewhere below the 9th Plain of Hell, in a special room reserved for only those most heinous of individuals.

He'll get a special lesson in depravity from the likes of Dahmer, who will feed on Idi's never ending entrails while hot pokers are applied in all manner and size. Pitchforks in sideways? Check
Chianti and fava beans? Check
'Pinning' medals to chest? Check

The devils are going to have a busy time this year. Some of their favorites are coming home and even ol' Beezelbub and Azmodeus will be having a reunion to deal with the likes of Idi, Saddam, and OBL.

Meanwhile, on the other end of the spectrum, the souls of the victims of those folks will cry with a sigh of relief as their nemesis will finally receive the just desserts.

Hold the ululating. I don't think he's dead -- yet.

Here's today's article from the NYT -- which doesn't say anything about Amin being dead. Then again, this "pre-obituary" doesn't mention the Entebbe hijacking, either.

I'm so glad. It gives me a few more moments to dream up suggestions for a "decent burial." Hmm. Maybe some of Uday's old toys are available? How about that standing casket with the spikes poking through he used to close in on his lesser Olympic athletes? Or what about all those starving animals at the Baghdad zoo?

So, your concerns listed hardly justify supporting the poll numbers.

A quick refutation of one your points (I don't have time for the others right now):

1) Bush never declared "active combat over." He declared an end to "major combat operations", which is true.

Really? Than what exactly would you characterize Operation Soda Mountain, Ivy Serpent, and Desert Scorpion as if not "active combat operations"? Several months ago, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld declared Afghanistan was entering a period of "stability" that no longer required "active combat operations". The United States military has recently stated that attacks on Coalition forces have markedly increased. Irresponsibly claiming that combat has ended when it clearly has not damages morale on the homefront and threatens to undermine confidence in these efforts which are crucial to the long term security of the United States.

#102 Dirk Diggler

"active combat operations" does not equal "major combat operations"

#103 Juliette
You made a great point.

Dirk, was VE day wrong when there was still fighting going on?

Irresponsibly claiming that combat has ended when it clearly has not

The President did not say combat had ended.

A SAINT OF ISLAM HAS FALLEN

In the service of the demon moon god ALLAH, few have lived lives more praiseworthy than Idi Amin. His life and spirity emulated the true spirit of Mohammed, the great deciever, pedophile and butcher of infidels.

The muslim hordes have cried out one question for centuries "where can we find a leader to deliver the corpses we crave".

The muslim hordes have tolerated corruption and inept rulers like Arafat in the hope that their leaders will deliver the corpses their demon moon god demands.

But only Idi Amin has delivered as of late, which is why he is a worshiped by the muslim masses. There is hope in Osama to deliver the corpses the muslim hordes crave, which is why the Arab world has ralled around him.

Night of the Living Dead. MSNBC reports that Ed Amin is still alive. Talking heads, trying to reconcile these conflicting reports, report that Eddy was dead, then he was alive again. Possibly, he will be dead again by tonite. They noted, however, that there are reports that after he was dead for awhile and then was alive again, he seemed very shaken.

A SAINT OF ISLAM HAS FALLEN

In the service of the demon moon god ALLAH, few have lived lives more praiseworthy than Idi Amin. His life and spirity emulated the true spirit of Mohammed, the great deciever, pedophile and butcher of infidels.

The muslim hordes have cried out one question for centuries "where can we find a leader to deliver the corpses we crave?"

Muslims know that only psychopaths or convicts will convert to their evil cult, so violence by jihad or breeding huge numbers can only bring new mujahadeen.

The muslim hordes have tolerated corruption and inept rulers like Arafat in the hope that their leaders will deliver the corpses their demon moon god demands.

But only Idi Amin has delivered as of late, which is why he is a worshiped by the muslim masses. There is hope in Osama to deliver the corpses the muslim hordes crave, which is why the Arab world has ralled around him.

Idi Amin is in that class of folks Hunter Thompson was talking about when he said words to the effect of

"When they bury Nixon, they better screw him into the ground just to make sure he never comes back."

Someone give Idi another twist for me...

D. Edgren

This is why I believe in an afterlife. We all know that justice is not always served to a man during his lifetime. I saw no indication that Amin ever repented. So here's to you Idi Amin, may you enjoy bitter fruit from the seeds you sowed on earth.

his body should be flown to those central african cannibals--they could feast for a month

They want to eat him, or what?

It's almost 8 in the evening here on the coast of Israel, and this thread has made me decide that it will be a veggie meal tonight!

Well, that was a short tenure...

Idi Amin to Head U.N. Rights Commission In Absentia

Amin isn't dead yet!

Radio station has backed away from earlier report.

Idi Amin used to feed his enemies to the crocodiles in Lake Victoria, after he was done torturing them. I bet those crocs could use a good meal right now. Why wait till the old bastard is officially dead?

Juliette...

"active combat operations" does not equal "major combat operations"

and

Reaganite...

The President did not say combat had ended.

Oh please, spare me the Clintonian word parsing. We're facing a tough and determined enemy in both Iraq and Afghanistan who hasn't quite gotten the message that "active combat operations" have ceased. I'm not in any way advocating abandoning Iraq or Afghanistan, but let's admit the truth about both situations and the challenges they present so that we may deal with them effectively. There's more at stake here than the White House in 2004. General Abizaid had the courage to do the other day when he admitted that the US is engaged in a guerilla campaign.

Dirk, was VE day wrong when there was still fighting going on?

VE Day commemorates the unconditional surrender of Germany and effectively marked the end of WWII in Europe. There are no credible comparisons between Germany in 1945 and Iraq in 2003.

Thinking he was dead, you can imagine my amusement when I saw this headline:
Idi Amin in Deteriorating Condition

#116 Dirk:

Oh please, spare me the Clintonian word parsing. We're facing a tough and determined enemy in both Iraq and Afghanistan who hasn't quite gotten the message that "active combat operations" have ceased.

Please explain to me how this is "Clintonian word parsing." The words "active" and "major" do not mean the same thing. (Be advised that I personally know the difference between the two.) It doesn't rise to the level of "the meaning of 'is.'" If you want to make your point using facts, I'd be willing to 'listen.' I might even change my opinion in the face of unadulterated inductive reasoning that's more evolved than my own. So far, you haven't done that. You've started from a false premise.

Whether the rebel Iraqis and Afghans have gotten the message is irrelevant to the point you're trying to make.
/pedantry

Oh please, spare me the Clintonian word parsing.

No offense, but I think the only one parsing words, is you.

There's more at stake here than the White House in 2004.

Tell that to the Dems and the media (essentially the same thing) who have invented a "scandal" out of thin air to demonize Bush.
 

Well, the Saudis have shown their love for the Religion of Human Pieces by providing sanctuary for a man who ate his professed enemies hearts, livers, ad naueum. Did the False Prophet also give a free pass to cannibals just as he did for murderers, miscogynists, pedophiles, and, least of all, liars??

Such a lovely, peaceful religion, with such lovely, peaceful adherents.

#120 Rick Z:

Did the False Prophet also give a free pass to cannibals...?

Only if the victims are halal. Or served with fava beans and a nice Chianti.

Here's an example of 'active' combat operations (by the CIA in Afghanistan) that are not 'major.' A major combat operation is exemplified by what came afterward.

newsflash: severly ill idi amin visited at bedside by spanish gen. francisco franco

Be advised that I personally know the difference between the two.

Fire away then. Perhaps you can explain to me the difference between "major" and "active" combat operations. Please explain why Operation Soda Mountain, Ivy Serpent, and Desert Scorpion all constitute "major" combat operations but fall below the level of "active" combat operations. I myself consider the British forces in Basra, patrolling without helmets and flak jackets for weeks now, to have ended "active" combat operations.

Whether the rebel Iraqis and Afghans have gotten the message is irrelevant to the point you're trying to make.

It's not pedantry. The Taliban and Baathist insurgents remain determined to inflict casualties and test American resolve because they still believe they are at war! In order for the War on Terror to remain credible, this administration must recognize this as well and stop making irresponsible but politically convenient statements about "stability operations" or "active" combat operations. It's not a distinction the American public will buy. Especially not if casualties continue to mount.

#122 Dirk: See #122 (in case you haven't yet).

# 121 BH:

Only if the victims are halal.

Well, that certainly leaves out the Christians Big Daddy Idi gobbled up.

Dirk:

Also, Ralph Peters, in making his point that the aftermath of the Iraq war is proceeding apace and even better than that of WW2 and the American Civil War, demonstrates the difference, though he doesn't spell out my point in so many words.

(Though I don't like his using the recent Mississippi shooting or US highway deaths to make his point, his other analogies make sense.)

No offense, but I think the only one parsing words, is you.

Care to back that up?

This post says Amin already died. Here they say he is still alive. What gives?

Care to back that up?

I really don't have anything to add to what was already stated in #99.
 

Also, Ralph Peters, in making his point that the aftermath of the Iraq war is proceeding apace and even better than that of WW2 and the American Civil War, demonstrates the difference, though he doesn't spell out my point in so many words.

Iraq today in no way resembles the utter devastation of the Confederacy in 1865 (454,000 killed and wounded out of a total population of 9 million) or Nazi Germany in 1945 (3 million dead). That's the problem. These societies were incapable of resisting because there was simply no one left to fight.

BH said...

Only if the victims are halal

Well, it depends on how we kill him.

#131 Dirk:

Iraq today in no way resembles the utter devastation of the Confederacy in 1865 (454,000 killed and wounded out of a total population of 9 million) or Nazi Germany in 1945 (3 million dead). That's the problem. These societies were incapable of resisting because there was simply no one left to fight.

A valid point. Any response to my Janes link?

Any response to my Janes link?

I'm sorry I still fail to see the distinction.

I be back later to respond. Gotta go get my fangs sharpened. :-)

"I'm not dead!"
"What?"
"Nothing, here's your nine pence..."
"I'm not dead!"
"There, he says he not dead!"
"Well he will be soon, he's very ill."
"I'm getting better!"
"No you're not, you'll be stone-dead in a moment!"
etc...

(I really, really need to pick up a copy of Monty Python and the Holy Grail sometime soon.)

#132 JamesW

"Well, I'd rather eat Johnson, sir"

"I wish youd all stop bickering and Eat me"

#136   Patrick Chester

LOL! ;D

Paul Johnson's _Modern Times_ has some interesting stuff on Amin and his Islamofascist connections. He may have trained with the IDF in the sixties as an Ugandan soldier, that's SGT. Amin. But, from the time of taking power in 1971, he was always on the side of evil.

#123 HULUGU

LMAO - priceless!!

Dirk Diggler

If I might interject…
I think the distinction between major combat and active is that the sole focus during Operation Iraqi Freedom was military. There were no plans to rebuild infrastructure or create government. It was single-minded and focused on military victory. Today there are missions and operations as you have accurately stated. But they aren't the sole focus of the American presense in Iraq. That's how I understand it at least.

NTropy:Thanks.

Fangs well-sharpened (kind of on-topic in an Idi Amin thread).

Dirk:

From the Janes link:

The experience of Afghanistan was a key catalyst for the emergence of a new model of intelligence and Special Operations Forces (SOF). The CIA has managed to ensure that it received a good press over the way in which its people got on the ground first and paved the way for the entry of SOF soon after 11 September 2001. The CIA's small teams of operatives were able to do this partly because they had the local contacts the Pentagon lacked. By the fall of Kandahar there were only about one hundred CIA officers and three hundred-odd SOF on the ground in Afghanistan - a testament to the ability to use small teams combined with high-technology to multiply force and a model for the way in which the USA would like to be able to fight without committing extensive traditional forces.

Small, concentrated force without committing extensive traditional forces=not a major combat operation.

I hope that monster burns for all eternity. I'm sure he will

Idi Amin is still alive, so why are people still posting about his death

Damn it! he's still alive. Please die already!!!!!!!!! Please, Please, Please drop dead now. Please.

Oh well, let's all be of good cheer. This give Satan more time to put the final touches on Amin's "welcome home" party.

"I'm not dead yet! I feel fine! I think I'll go for a walk!"

Re: Juliette's #127 and follow-ups, Dirk's #131, and rayra's excellent #144.

Go have a look at the article "Werewolves" on my blog. Then read the article "The Werewolf Principle" on The Command Post for more details.

The parallels between Iraq 2003 and Germany 1945 are astounding. Remember that Nazi guerilla activity didn't end till mid 1947, and was at a far higher level after the formal surrender in May 1945 than it is in Iraq now.

Anyone think that "major combat operations" in Germany didn't cease with the German surrender? Those words were chosen carefully. Bush didn't say "The War is Over, there will be no more shooting." He said that "major combat operations" were over. The War is over in the same way it was over in Europe on VE day. That means there will be some combat for months, possibly years to come. The burden will eventually shift to Iraqi forces to root out the die-hard Ba'athists.

#148 Alan E Brain

Thanks for the links. An idiotarian ex-roommate needs answers and these will help. Not that any of them will convince him but at least give answers to the rest of the cast of characters on his mailing list.

#144 rayra:

Thanks for the terrific backup! I was about to expound on this subject a bit more, but you did a much better job than I could have possibly done. :-)

Why this delay for Idi Amins demise?

It is alreay some 78 years late.

#142 dougrhon 7/21/2003 07:21PM PST

I hope that monster burns for all eternity. I'm sure he will

I do not think he will be a long term energy source, he was never even a source of light.

Looks like my wishes have been granted. Idi's out of the coma. Of course he's still on the critical list, suffering (and I do mean suffering) from Renal failure. Bloated, nauseous, in constant discomfort and sometimes extreme pain, without a shred of dignity. Possibly brain-damaged. Possibly Blind.

Oh Dear, How Sad, Never Mind. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.