and it was ignored by the Western press because they didn?t understand the reference.

Precisely why LGF is so valuable.

When when when will he realise that placing the blame on "Jews" and "the West" is the anti-thesis of him calling on Muslims to use their brains?

Maybe he thinks the reason why Jews are "winning" is because we whine a lot. Hey, Moonbat: find something to whine about that isn't your own fault.

The end, by me.

If there was any academic diversity this place would be assigned to j-school students, int'l relations students, and politics students by their professors.

ok lets see terrorists murder while crying allah ahkbar allah is the muslim god so lessee the masses support the savages so in conclusion i guess the UE might be right

and i dont think that is an exact quote from the EU

as for that treaty wasnt it a sham like the hudna

and you gotta love the way he proves that jews rule the world see i told you

/seething ranting mode off

He also said he wanted to make the Muslim world more "productive."

Productive of guns, rockets, tanks . . . maybe submarines, too?

Evariste: I'm studying international studies and Political Economy. My professors are all doped-up ex-hippies.

I put LGF under what the university terms "Independent Learning"

Regarding the esteemed Dr Mahathir, where is Lee Harvey Oswald when you need him?

Poly-nice!! I am always glad to read that academia isn't a total wasteland of brainwashed l-cubes.

I just wanted to say...
The end, by me.

evariste:

Sorry to tear the silver lining away from the cloud so prematurely, but I come here out of personal rather than academic interest. I say what I have to do to get the marks. I'm no salvation from left-wing academic drones. There are some aspects of the left i've come to embrace (somewhat), but i'm no idiotarian. I hope.

Does anyone have any decent references describing the false Treaty of Al-Hudaybiyya, I tried "googling" but every thing I reference, had pages of tedious flowery text from the Quran...Sura ...Sirat...et al.

My eyes are too tired to deal with it.

So, if any lgf'ers have any ready access to some useful links? I wouls really appreciate it.

Oh, I didn't think you were. I just thought it was cool that you were taking an idiotarian-heavy major (or 2) and still thinking for yourself.

Mathir really loves the Jews deep down because he can't stop talking about them. There is a thin love between love and hate.

OT
It seems that injured Ism member Tom Hurndall's mother has taken anti-Israel lessons from Rachel Corrie's parents. The article below is filled with such anti-Israeli propaganda that I wouldn't be surprised if the PLO wrote it for her. To write that Israel's "regime is cruel beyond human understanding" is pretty harsh considering what Israel has gone through with the horrendous "Palestinian" terrorism. There was no criticism of the "Palestinians" which makes me wonder who Joyce Hurndall is really working for.

I do feel sympathy for Tom's family but his actions and those of the "Palestinian" gunmen who shot at the IDF are to blame. I really don't believe that Tom was helping "Palestinian" children run for cover when he was shot. It sounds too much like a Ism cover story. I'm not surprised that Tom ended up being a member of Ism after reading his mother's rant. The apple didn't fall far from the tree.

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

How cool is it having Bush as President? He took Matathir by the ear and gave him a lecture! Can't picture Carter, Ford, Clinton, or Gore, doing that.[Reagan would have wanted to but lacked the physicality]{Bush 1 would have vomited on his host and had to leave before Matathir arrived}

Hi fiery celt! Here's a neat one.

papertiger lol. I agree totally.

Oy.

heh, idiotarian heavy major. that made me giggle.

yah, i guess i'm the anti-idiotarian idiotarian. Anyone who really thinks properly realises that left-wing ideology may have its merits (in certain situations) but really, it leaves a lot to be desired. Most idiotarians have taken a decent-ish pattern of thought and used it as an excuse for hatred of anything that seems remotely connected to "the ruling class". They're such idiotarians.

Course a lot of people here don't agree with me and think idiotarian is as idiotarian does. That's cool too, no sweat off my back.

[Link: www.hindustantimes.com...]

I've been on this for awhile but someone remind me... how did Malaysia get a moonbat prime minister? I thought most of the country (politically and economically) was controlled by Chinese and Indian segments (must be Joos in disguise).

I spent a few weeks there in '99 and thought the Muslims were but a third and not too powerful. I do remember having almost explosive food poisoning on a bus though, and almost getting sick on a woman in full burqa. Very scared of consequences.

www.hindustantimes.com/on/ads/ht_fullbody_middle_b anner.htm?

Excuse me, sorry about that.

I love this latest "you took it out of context" excuse. Our enemies are overusing it (just like the words "fascist", "apartheid" or "Nazi"), and slowly destroying its meaning.

Then, in the future, when there really IS fascism, apartheid, racism, or statements "taken out of context", noone will care. Eventually nothing has any meaning.

The LLL is particularly careless with word usage, and hates clearly defining words or opinions. I find this interesting.

I don't think Mahathir is a loony lefty though. Not sure what I would classify him as.

evariste: that came up as a horoscope banner for me!

excuse me I didn't mean to imply I wanted to kill the jews, what I meant is I want to KEEEEEEL DEE JOOOOOS

test

Evariste,

You could email the page to me...If you don't mind.

I really appreciate it. Thanx. ;-)

btw; those earlier links.....bloggage hiccups?
/runs and hides

#11 fiery celt

I came across the following link [Link: answering-islam.org.uk...]

on a UK site called Answering Islam. If your eyes are tired, cut to the end of the article, in which the writer explains why he wanted to present the context of Mohammed's behavior at some length.

The "Conclusion" paragraph is a good summary:

quote: "This event clearly portrays the real Muhammad; unable to make up his mind, and shucking his Companions to hide his humiliation. Later he makes up 'revelations' to turn the sting of failure around in his followers hearts, and even promises a weaker neighbor's property as 'victory booty', taken a few weeks later. Further, he claimed that God told him to break the very treaty he was earlier led to make. These are the actions of a man who was not following the instructions of a righteous God, but the actions of a man now set out on his own, willful, mission in life."
/end quote

I hope this helps!

Not all Malaysians agree with Mahathir. To get a better understanding of whats happening within Malaysia, please check out [Link: WWW.MALAYSIAKINI.COM...] and [Link: WWW.JEFFOOI.COM....]

#23 drool

People should just come up with new words for all of those things. I've taken a liking to the LGF vernacular, and I suggest that.

Lizardoids, moonbats, idiotarians, spoldeydopes etc....that can replace all the currently misappropriated words you mentioned. I'm sure people here will figure out more as things continue.

Poly here is a good history lesson pertaining to the Treaty of Al-Hudaybiyya, .

my major, physics, is idiotarian free.

:-D

Do non-Muslims have any rights in Malaysia? All I know about Malaysia is that Muslims are the majority. When that is the case it usually doesn't bode well for non-Muslims. I'm sure Jews aren't welcomed in the country but how about Christians?

fiery celt & Poly-I can't find it any more! This on the other hand is fascinating.

This is all so pathetic.

Yes, the "Jews control the world" line was offensive.

But the real problem is the overall notion of "we are all oppressed and humiliated by our enemies the Europeans and the Jews" that permeated the whole speech. Muslim self-improvement was not advocated for its own sake, but for the sake of "defense" against all of the imagined oppressors.

And of course, the main problem, the ultimate humiliation, is the way that the Europeans stole "Muslim land" in order to solve their Jewish problem. Why can't the Muslim nations unite even on that, the Mahathir asked over and over and over again? And why is it that only Israel gets to defy the whole world, while we Muslims are disrespected and called backwards?

The world outlook championed by Mahathir and lauded by the entire OIC is sick to the core. The rank antisemitism is not the whole of the problem, nor even the greatest part, but it reflects the problem. Truly an object lesson in the Bible's cardinal law of history.

#33 Haiku

I'm not sure that it's that bad. Not as bad as Jews entering Iran or Saudi Arabia, for instance.

I'm browsing this Malaysian site someone posted above. Interestingly, seems to be rather pro-Israel: [Link: www.malaysiakini.com...]

evariste: interesting indeed! thanks

Evariste,

Thanx...It's a keeper. ;-)

Connecticut Yankee,

I already saw that one but my eyes were to tired to read through the whole thing...I'll read it in more detail tomorrow.

Someone must be slipping him falsified reports about how the voting turns out at the UN. If only his accusations were true! If only the world was fighting islam to help Israel. Or maybe because the vote isn't 100% against Israel is his proof?

A very good book ( but can be difficult to find) on the early Jewish presence in Arabia as well as what happened to them, is " A History of the Jews Of Arabia. From Ancient Times to Their Eclipse Under Islam" by Gordon Darnell Newby. The book came out in 1988.

#30 Poly

I'm not convinced that's the solution.

1) Those words are comedic. That's an understandable reaction to nihilist extremism, but moderation, not extremism, is the correct answer to extremism (stolen from Dennis Prager).
2) "Nazi", "apartheid", etc. have already been clearly defined. "lizardoid", "moonbat", etc do not have clear definitions, and are really just general insults. As much as I enjoy saying them, they don't mean much.
3) You are ignoring the more fundamental issue, which is the changing of word's definitions. By simply creating new words, you're just papering over a bigger issue.

What I find interesting is that radical Islamists AND radical leftists both misuse words like "apartheid" or "Nazi".

#38 fiery celt

Hope your eyes feel better after a good night's sleep-- I've had "tired eyes" too.

Malaysia:

As I understand it, Malaysia is a parliamentary "democracy" grafted on to a federation of sultanates. Sufferage is universal, but Mahatir's party has rigged the electoral system so the UMNO always comes out on top. Additionally, he has used colonial-era British laws oppressively to stifle dissent.

The main problem is that the major opposition groups are mostly more Islamist than Mo, who at least recognises the need for Islam to come into the 21st century, even if he's still blamin' the Jooos for everything. Notice that the Islamic Party is a major opposition party. The stats:

Religions: Muslim, Buddhist, Daoist, Hindu, Christian, Sikh; note - in addition, Shamanism is practiced in East Malaysia.

Legal System: based on English common law; judicial review of legislative acts in the Supreme Court at request of supreme head of the federation; has not accepted compulsory ICJ jurisdiction

Sufferage: 21 years of age; universal

Legislature: bicameral Parliament or Parlimen consists of the Senate or Dewan Negara (69 seats; 43 appointed by the paramount ruler, 26 appointed by the state legislatures) and the House of Representatives or Dewan Rakyat (193 seats; members elected by popular vote weighted toward the rural Malay population to serve five-year terms)
election results: House of Representatives - percent of vote by party - BN 56%, other 44%; seats by party - BN 148, PAS 27, DAP 10, Keadilan 5, PBS 3
elections: House of Representatives - last held 29 November 1999 (next must be held by November 2004)

ruling coalition parties: Gerakan Rakyat Malaysia Party or PGRM [LIM Kheng Yaik]; Liberal Democratic Party (Parti Liberal Demokratik - Sabah) or LDP [CHONG Kah Kiat]; Malaysian Chinese Association (Persatuan China Malaysia) or MCA [LING Ong Ka Ting]; Malaysian Indian Congress (Kongresi India Malaysia) or MIC [S. Samy VELLU]; Parti Bangsa Dayak Sarawak or PBDS [Leo MOGGIE]; Parti Bersatu Sabah or PBS [Joseph PAIRIN Kitingan]; Parti Pesaka Bumiputra Bersatu or PBB [Patinggi Haji Abdul TAIB Mahmud]; Sabah Progressive Party (Parti Progresif Sabah) or SAPP [YONG Teck Lee]; Sarawak United People's Party (Parti Bersatu Rakyat Sarawak) or SUPP [WONG Soon Kah]; United Malays National Organization or UMNO [MAHATHIR bin Mohamad]; United Pasokmomogun Kadazandusun Murut Organization (Pertubuhan Pasko Momogun Kadazan Dusun Bersatu) or UPKO [leader NA]; opposition parties: Democratic Action Party (Parti Tindakan Demokratik) or DAP [KERK Kim Hock]; Islamic Party of Malaysia (Parti Islam se Malaysia) or PAS [Abdul HADI Awang]; National Justice Party (Parti Keadilan Nasional) or Keadilan [WAN AZIZAH Wan Ismael]; National Front (Barisan Nasional) or BN (the ruling coalition dominated by the UMNO and includes MCA, MIC, PGRM, PBDS, SUPP, PBB, PBS, LDP, SAPP, UPKO) [Dr. MAHATHIR bin Mohamad]

#41 drool

4) You're obviously oblivious to the fact that I was joking. I should have made that more clear, i'm sorry.

I myself laugh when someone accuses someone of being a Fascist, mainly because it's derived from the word Fasces, which means a bunch of sticks. So yeah, GWB is apparently a bunch of sticks.

The misappropriation of the words (which I alluded to in the original post) is the biggest joke, that's why the concept of misappropriating LGF words is funny on so many levels.

You're right though, it's no joking matter. Not in the slightest. Laughing at people stupid enough to compare the Palestinian's self-imposed division from Israelis to Apartheid and GWB's leadership (which we don't get shot for questioning) to Fascism IS NOT FUNNY. DO YOU HEAR ME? STUPID PEOPLE ARE NOT FUNNY.

Again, the end. By me.

:)

So, basically, Mahatir heads up a mega-coalition with representatives of every group who is afraid of / is not allied with the hard-line Islamists, except the those interested in democratic reforms. He has used basically democratic structures to create an authoritarian state, but it is not a full-on burkha-wearing Islamic State. As far as these things go, it's pretty liberal (I know, I know, that's not saying much when you're comparing a country to Saudi Arablia and Iran).

Islamism is on the rise in Malaysia, and Mo is a pretty cynical political operator. I suspect part of his purpose in spewing forth against the Jooos is to stop his own support base leaking to the extra nutty hardcore Islamists.

Wonder how long it'll be before some Ivy League school offers him a visitng professorship?

The NYTimes' own resident moonbat Paul Krugman says that the blame for Mahathir's anti-Semitic comments can be layed squarely at the feet of Bush and Sharon. Moonbat, you see, was just "covering his flank":

. . . And that's what [Mahathir] was doing last week. Not long ago Washington was talking about Malaysia as an important partner in the war on terror. Now Mr. Mahathir thinks that to cover his domestic flank, he must insert hateful words into a speech mainly about Muslim reform. That tells you, more accurately than any poll, just how strong the rising tide of anti-Americanism and anti-Semitism among Muslims in Southeast Asia has become. Thanks to its war in Iraq and its unconditional support for Ariel Sharon, Washington has squandered post-9/11 sympathy and brought relations with the Muslim world to a new low.

And bear in mind that Mr. Mahathir's remarks were written before the world learned about the views of Lt. Gen. William "My God Is Bigger Than Yours" Boykin. By making it clear that he sees nothing wrong with giving an important post in the war on terror to someone who believes, and says openly, that Allah is a false idol — General Boykin denies that's what he meant, but his denial was implausible even by current standards — Donald Rumsfeld has gone a long way toward confirming the Muslim world's worst fears.

Somewhere in Pakistan Osama bin Laden must be enjoying this. The war on terror didn't have to be perceived as a war on Islam, but we seem to be doing our best to make it look that way.

Krugman might be right about Dr [yes, another Mohomedan Dr] Mahatir "covering his flank", but the rest is disgraceful.

Why must he blame Islamism on everyone but the raving, ranting Imaams who are preaching hatred at every opportunity. Surely they bear some responsibility, no? Krugman's argument is intrinsically racist: "the 'little brown/yellow people' aren't really proper adults who can take responsibility for their own actions; they are merely straws blown about by the US/Zionist wind".

If Krugman had any respect for Arabs or Asians, he would hold them to account for the delinquencies of their own societies.

Re. the Treaty between Muslim rapist-plunderers of Medina and the Quraysh of Mecca, I posted an account from an 8th century biography of Mohammed, the phony "prophet."

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Muslimaniacs are required to break treaties, to be in accord with the sunna (exemplary life) of the pedophile prophet:

[Link: web.fares.net...]

After these pigs break treaties, suck aid money dry, and infiltrate the Free World, they plan a takeover. Read this bloodthirsty account from a wild [bigoted word]:

[Link: web.fares.net...]

For the morally blind - like Ben F(athead) - this is what this savage wants to do to Ben F, and other dhimmi-kafirs:

"O allah, make the ground shake in an earthquake from under them."

"...O allah, destroy them all, not leaving anyone to escape."

"O allah, make their wives widows, their children orphans."

"O allah, grant victory to our brothers and sisters in Chechneya and everywhere in the world. Yaa allah!"

"...O allah, forgive us, forgive us, forgive us, for doing nothing but watch."

So this motherless fuck is in Gitmo, waiting for trial? No, he is in DC, training muslimaniacs in "Khulabaa" ("conquest")

[Link: www.almaghrib.org...]
[Link: www.alhuda.org...]

Anyone who lives in the DC area should do more than just watch Muhammed's genocide-sunnah at work:

[Link: tips.fbi.gov...]

Yes, if you access the FBI tip line they record same, as they should. I've been there before, so should you have been.

REMEMBER THE NAME: MOHAMMED ALSHAREEF. SOON TO BE MAKING JIHAD IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, UNLESS HIS JIHAD-SHAHEED CULTIVATION IS HALTED.

#48 David

as Bush (I think) calls it, it's the bigotry of low expectations. I read about a bake sale, where conservative students had different prices for cookies, based on the buyer's race, to demonstrate this idiocy.

Another item about anti-Semitism in Froggistan: Merde in France has a story about a rabbi being mugged in Ris-Orangis by two men who yelled pro-Palestinian slogans while they were beating him up:

[Link: merdeinfrance.blogspot.com...]

#46

Hey, speaking of which, take a look at this: Rhodes Professor Process to be Reviewed. Apparently the idiotarian double-header appointment of Pilger and McKinney as visiting professors was sent out to them without the approval of the provost, president and trustees. But the real money quote has to do with alumni reaction: the VP of Alumni Affairs "is contacted by three to four [concerned alumni] per day".

Three or four per *day*? Sounds like Cornell's finding out the hard way that letting the humanities moonbats run loose can have serious consequences.

The European Union had done nothing when Italian Prime Minister Silvio Burlesconi made a statement calling Muslims terrorists.

Barf! The EU has pending legislation that will ban Christian websites as being "offensive to the Muslim population". God only knows what they'll have to say about LGF. Internet Haganah, IsraPundit, etc.

Surely conversion is the only safe and reasonable answer. Mike Tyson did it, and look how happy he's been since he discovered Allah!

Mahatir is following an Islamic tradition. Big Mo' (the one who made up Allah) said about the Jooos:

Verily these (the Jews) are a dirty nation. We do not need them.

Ominous, isn't it? Most of the time Allah sounds a lot like Julius Streicher.

Check out the hilarious satire on Indymedia that is riling up the morlocks.

"Zionist conspiracy ranking based on system of Zio-badges"

[Link: www.indymedia......]

I expect to have at least 10 comments on that article before one of the mods wakes up and the thread gets terminated.

Charles, pretty pretty please post this indymedia article to the main page. It's hilarious!

# 49 Camel Prophet --

That stuff is absolutely sickening.

You know, for the longest time I would rationalize and say, "Uh, it's only a tiny minority of radical Muslims who are that way."

What helped me was seeing how the ex-Moslems on [Link: www.faithfreedom.org...] talk about the reality of Islam... they are savage in their condemnation, holding nothing back.

Paper Tiger #31:

You are referring to the Treaty of Medina (Yethrib), which the muslims also broke. Ibn-Ishaq (8th c AD) records the Treaty, "The Jews must bear their expenses and the muslims their own expenses. Each must help the other against anyone who attacks the people of this document. They must seek mutual advice and consultation, and loyalty is a protection against treachery." Very impressive, until Mohammed had enough numbers to void the Treaty, and conduct islamic-genocide against Jews, phony-muslims (munifiqun) and polytheists (mushriken).

This is Mohammed's genocide-sunnah at work:

[Link: www.ourenemies.org...]

"60 Minutes" did a story on "nation building" in Bosnia. That folly is nothing but: genocide facilitation.

Is Allah not Akhbar, kufr!

tic toc #56:

Mohammed Alshareef is equally unenlightened concerning Jews:

[Link: www.khutbah.com...] (See "Current Affairs")

In "Newest Khutbah" Alshareef claims that Arabic must be the language of all muslims. Who on earth allowed him to enter the US, let alone alone licences that jihadi to foster militance among impressionable youth only miles from the White House? And at least 3 of his khutbah are on the pro al-Qaeda website:

[Link: www.as-sahwah.com...]

If you want M Alshareef in jail:

[Link: tips.fbi.gov...]

what should concern us is the silence of all the democratic presidential candidates. unless i'm missing something, none of them express any outrage concerning the malaysian pm speech.
have they sold out for the moslem vote so quickly?

"...When the enemy offers to make peace you must accept."

But that doesn't mean you can't keep killing them. Heck, by Muslim standards, the Palestinians are completely peaceful. They have no standing army, and only a skeleton police force. All those suicide bombers shouldn't be construed as any kind of attackers, because they're not part of any official military.

This is how Islam thinks.

#61

40 thousand is not a skeleton force

Talking about Jew- hatred, remember the AEL in Belgium and Holland? Dyab Abu Jahjah, grounder of the AEL has written a book in Dutch called: 'Between two worlds, the Roots of a Fight for Freedom'

I have only read a few pages yet, but these are some exerpts: ( I will try to translate as good as I can)

...The thirtees were the time of the rise of Fascism and Nazism in all Europe. The Nazi's wanted a pure arian Europe and wanted to end the staying of the Jews on the old continent. The Zionists wanted the same thing. The Nazi's wanted the Jews to go, the Zionist wanted them to come to Palestine. The two movements worked close together in the thirtees, to realise their common aim... (P.22)

The Arab-Israeli conflict isn't about borders, it's a struggle for existence, like Jamal Abu Nasser once said. It's a struggle for existence because the existence of the state of Israel is a total deniel of the Arab national existence. Israel can only survive by the continuing of the Arab defeat[...]. Because of the Arab fragmentation and weakness the Zionists could invade Palistine and kolonise it, and by the continuation of that fragmentation and weakness, Israel can continue to exist. Israel feeds on Arab weakness en supports [this weakness] it...(P.27)

..But if the Americans thought that people like Sadat were the future of the Arab nation, they were wrong. Sadat was executed by the Arab people...(P.36)

Some people in Belgium and Holland think the AEL is 'an emancipation movement' for the Muslim immigrants.

#63

Abu Dahdja was recently written up in the IHT/NYT as the "Belgian Malcolm X".

##49, 59 Camel Prophet suggests sending anti-terror tips to the FBI's general tip site. Well, we all know how on-the-ball the FBI is in general on this subject.

Here is a tip site that is more focused on the terrorism problem; if you peruse the site you will see that there is no "politically correct" shying away from the fact that most terror is Islamist. Yes, it is an FBI-State Department joint venture, but at least the people monitoring the tips coming via this channel may have their heads on straight about the nature of the threat that we face.

However, there is one section of this website that that graphically shows the depravity of our State Department. It's like the curious omission in State's map of Saudi Arabia, only worse. There is a page that lists murders here, murders there, murders murders everywhere, with links for more information, and nowhere on the list of murders of American citizens are the killers' motives mentioned except in one context, and in that context those motives are described in a most disingenuous manner. Bastards.

Let 'em know what you think.

The Washington Post quotes former President George H. W. Bush as saying: "Hey, I didn't ride in here on a watermelon cart...I know how it works."
Ahm umm, isn't that, well...racist?
What if he had said: "Hey, I didn't get in here hauling a pushcart..."

Just checking.

I think we should have Mahathir say it's all the Arabs fault, what do we think?

I saw this... Let's step it up some.

Krugman is under a lot of pressure lately. Between outing his self proclaimed stalker in Don Luskin and having to defend his NY Times best selling book of mythology advertised as a literary criticism of the Bush economic policy, Krugman is now haunted by more than just his ghosts of his past.

So what's with the anti-Semitism? Almost surely it's part of Mr. Mahathir's domestic balancing act, something I learned about the last time he talked like this, during the Asian financial crisis of 1997-98.

At that time, rather than accept the austerity programs recommended by the U.S. government and the I.M.F., he loudly blamed machinations by Western speculators, and imposed temporary controls on the outflow of capital — a step denounced by all but a handful of Western economists. As it turned out, his economic strategy was right: Malaysia suffered a shallower slump and achieved a quicker recovery than its neighbors.

Umm, Paulie, he didn't just blame Western speculators. He blamed the Jewish ones. Oh but wait Paulie, those speculators were jewish so it adds up right?
+1 lunacy

Overall this piece by Krugman is harp for Islamists. He plucked it well and the Islamists heard it.

Hey, what's up with Condoleezza Rice?

In a meeting with reporters she said of Mathir's comments, ""I don't think they are emblematic of the Muslim world."

Come on Condi, you know better. I used to respect you for your straight talk. Now, it's a bunch of projectionist garbage.

Anyone know how one can contact the NSC and express an opinion?

Count me in Dom!

Here's the latest idiocy from Paul Krugman in the NY Times:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

First, he says that the rest of Mahathir's speech was great.
Then he says that it's just politics.
Then he says that it's all the U.S.'s fault anyway.

I guess Krugman should make me feel better - according to him, Arab antisemitism either doesn't exist, or is just a political ploy or is caused by the U.S.'s policies.

Disgusting.

Please call the Embassy of Malaysia in Washington
D.C. and voice your disgust with the Malaysian
Jew Hater-in-Chief

202-572-9700

I guess they've received more calls than they expected;
they set up a voicemail box to receive comments about
their PM's anti-Jew rant.

The European Union had done nothing when Italian Prime Minister Silvio Burlesconi made a statement calling Muslims terrorists.

Late to the thread, but I'm starting to really like this guy.

I know Bush condemned Mahathir Mohamed's remarks, but it would have been nice if he refused to take a smiley group photo with him too.

Just read and posted about another version of this story. If this guy wasn't serious he'd be comical.

- - - - - - - - - - -

Mr. Mahathir went on to use the oldest bigot's ploy in the book when he stated, "I have friends who are Jews." Oh, that's great... then there's now way you can be anti-Semitic, right?

He finished up by singing the chorus of every left wing loony apologist's favorite song: "Why Do They Hate Us?"

Mr Mahathir also criticised the way the US was wielding its power in the world as it pursued its war against terrorism. "There are some people who believe massive retaliation is the answer. You kill one of my people, I will kill 100 of your people. This is not going to work."

The US, he said, needed to get at the root cause of the problem: "You have to find out why they want to crash a plane into a huge building. It is a horrible way to die. There must be a reason."

# 63 Theo de Groot --

Thanks for the translation.

It's a struggle for existence because the existence of the state of Israel is a total deniel of the Arab national existence.

That's it in a nutshell, isn't it? In the Arab mind, Israel is uprooting the helpless olive trees of every one of the 300 million Arabs, or, not to put too fine a point on it, emasculating their manhood.
Politics has nothing to do with it, it's an idée fixe. I wish I knew the cure for this condition...

#66 escobar

"Hey, I didn't ride in here on a watermelon cart...I know how it works."
Ahm umm, isn't that, well...racist?

Maybe it is just me being dense this morning, but how is that racist?

Paul Krugman is amazingly stupid today; actually even more stupid than usual:

Madhatter's Jew Hatred = Bush's Fault

(c/o Instapundit)

#20 Fat Elvis -

How did Malaysia get a moonbat prime minister? I thought most of the country (politically and economically) was controlled by Chinese and Indian segments.

The Malays are the majority in terms of population. However the economic sector is controlled primarily by the Chinese (as in Indonesia). There is much resentment (there's that word again) of the success of the Chinese - this has resulted in an utterly draconian "affirmative action" system for the Malays (who are called "Bumiputras", "sons of the soil"). I remember seeing an ad in the Straits Times (Singapore) for an apartment complex in Johor Bahru, the Malaysian border town:

"Units almost sold out!!!"
(in fine print): "Units for Bumiputra still available."

# 73 RIP Ford --

I am not aware of any occasion on which Italy's Prime Minister Berlusconi "called Muslim terrorists". I doubt he would say that. More likely, it's the typical Muslim debating tactic of accusing your opponent of the thing that you are guilty of.

Shortly after 9/11 Berlusconi did say, however, that "Western civilization is superior to the culture of the Islamic world". [Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Personally I find nothing objectionable to the statement. Mahathir made an assertion of fact ("Jews rule the world"), Berlusconi expressed his opinion on which culture is superior. It may not have been smart for the Italian PM to say this, but neither was he all but announcing genocidal intent as Mahathir did.

In the above linked NY Times article, notice how the head of Italy's Jewish community immediately defended Islam against Berlusconi's remarks?

How about an equally prominent Muslim denouncing Mahathir?

Sorry, stupid question.

According to an editorial in Albawaba (Jordan) it's not the Jews who run the world but the Illuminati. Are Jews Rulers or Ruled? Henry Makow Ph.D..

No. this isn't satire.

#66 Escobar -

Watermelon cart

Er, are you suggesting that the grocery store down the street is racist, because they have a whole shelf full of watermelons? I was so embarrassed the time an African-American friend went grocery shopping with me...

But it's a good thing he didn't say "fell off the back of a turnip truck", which is extremely offensive to persons of Scandinavian or Eastern-European descent.

Though I wouldn't be surprised to see the media turn this into another tempest in a teapot.

#73, RIP Ford

Image and implication of this old caricature: ignorant black folks ridin' on that watermelon cart--not how I got here, knowing the ropes etc etc

#72 Blue Star:

I guess they've received more calls than they expected; they set up a voicemail box to receive comments about their PM's anti-Jew rant.

Hello, you have reached the Embassy of the Republic of Malaysia.

For visa matters, please press "1" now.

To leave a comment regarding the Prime Minister's anti-Jew rant, please press "2" now.

SUBMENU:

If you are a member of the Jewish conspiracy, and you wish to cast calumny on the Prime Minister, please press "1" now.

If you wish to express support of the Prime Minister in his struggle against the Jewish conspiracy, please press "2" now.

Salaam!

#83 escobar
Man, that's a stretch

#83 escobar,

Sorry, I was unaware the "black folks" riding on watermelon carts was such a wide spread stereotype. I must of missed the memo.

ehhh.... I'm not going to get into this.

#83 escobar

give it a break, please. we're getting to the point where no one will be able to say anything without somebody crying about how offended they are.

when did we all become such a bunch of cry babies?

(no offense to the chronologically challenged)

#s 85, 86, 87

I happen to agree with you, particularly #87's disdain for the elevation of victimhood. And yet, what if you're standing in an auto dealership and you overhear a husband saying to his wife: "Well, we jewed him down a little on the extras, didn't we." Are you offended? Does his use of the expression sugest antisemitism, or would that be a "stretch?"
Bush 41 is old enough to be familiar with the watermelon cart image. Is he a racist? No. Is the guy in the dealership an antisemite?

# 11 fiery celt

You might also want to read an article that Daniel Pipes wrote on the "treaty." It can be found Here:
[Link: www.danielpipes.org...]

Here's a question that's been buggin me ever since the Easterbrook thing.

Am I racist (or religionist?) against Arabs and Muslims for seeing pictures like this and immediately thinking, "they're just not like us?"

Our relations with the Muslim world have always been shitty. How shitty? Who cares?

Someone flings shit on my pizza my first question isn't, "How much?"

Did anyone read the latest Krugman? Look, BUSH is the reason Muslims hate Jews, and that's fine... because its Bush.

Read the column and these commentaries.

[Link: www.musil.blogspot.com...]

[Link: www.dhogberg.com...]

Basically, there is always an excuse to hate Jews. There is always a way to blame Bush. There is always a reason to show Muslims as misunderstood.

Well, why don't we, for the sake of Israel, for the sake of the honest Muslims in the clutches of death gangs and compelled to use their homes as weapons caches, stop putting up with shit like this from Krugman?

Does anyone else here think this is a microcasm of the type of baseless power politics currently being employed by the minority party here?

Dazed and confused,
Paul

#76 tictoc--

See also Art. 28 of the Hamas Covenant and Art. 14 of the Palestinian National Charter (aka PLO Covenant) for more of the same. There is no mincing of words here. No ambiguity. No equivocation.

Incidentally, on those occasions when PLO politicos say that the offensive provisions of the PLO Covenant have been nullified, you will usually find Art. 14 included in the list of articles that were nullified in part. Not in toto, but in part. Whatever that means.

Of course, other PLO sources indicate that Art. 14 is still fully operative. But hey, what's an obsessive fixation among friends, eh?

#92 Paul Banks
I was outraged by Paul Krugman's article in the NYT. He really has his head up his nether region.
According to this loon, the reason for Muslim anti-semitism is because Bush allows Israel to defend itself. Number one, Krugman doesn't understand anything at all about the reason for Muslim anti-semitism. And number two, survival is a higher priority than putting your head on the chopping block to try to make anti-semites like you. This schmuck was Enron's advisor? No wonder Enron went astray. This Krugman idiot makes me puke. Can there be a bigger idiotarian than this POS?

But Taranto has a great commentary showing how contradictory and really stupid this jerk is.

[Link: www.opinionjournal.com...]

Lumeire,

Thanx.... ;-)

#73 RIP Ford: just a note - unless you take Mahathir as a reliable source, you should know that Berlusconi - for all the outrageous and sometimes outright crappy statements he's made - never said anything of the sort, and that's why the EU never said a word about it.

There you go. Mahathir is lying. Simple as that.

I think the closest he could be referring to was that "the western civilisation is superior", which is another thing from "Muslims=terrorists". But clearly, Mahathir had to find something to hang on to.

Just don't fall for it.

Al Bawaba blames the Illuminati

Check out this link:

[Link: www.albawaba.com...]