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Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 10:14:34 pm PDT

Here’s a good piece on the blazingly obvious anti-Israel bias of the Reuters wire service, by Ricki Hollander of CAMERA: Questionable Integrity.

The wording of Reuters reports whitewashes the terrorists' illegitimate mission, casting it in universally acceptable tones of "statehood" and "independence." The Hamas charter mandates, and its leaders repeatedly vow, to "purify" Palestine "from the Jews" (Ismail Abu Shanab, New York Times, October 28, 2000); to "kill Jews everywhere" (Abdel Aziz Rantisi, Chicago Tribune, July 23, 2002); and to continue "martyrdom operations until the full liberation of Palestine" (Sheikh Ahmed Yassin, Boston Globe, Dec. 28, 2002).

Put into Reuterspeak, their mission reads, "Hamas has spearheaded a 28-month-old Palestinian militant uprising against Israel for a state in Gaza and the West Bank" ("Israeli Tank in Flames After Hitting Bomb in Gaza," Shahdi al-Kashif, February 15, 2003). Suicide bombings are presented as part and parcel of that supposedly limited and reasonable goal: "Israel says the barrier . . . is needed to keep out suicide bombers who have killed hundreds of Israelis as part of a three-year-old uprising for statehood" ("Hamas Says Israeli Barrier Will Not Stop Attacks," Nidal al-Mughrabi, Oct. 3, 2003).

The sanitized "uprising for independence" language is used even when the rest of the same article clearly contradicts its use. For example, a story about the closure by Israeli authorities of an Israeli-Arab summer camp promoting armed struggle against the state of Israel ("Israel Shuts Pro-Palestinian Summer Camp," July 31, 2003) referred to the camp's violent message as "supporting a Palestinian uprising for independence." Yet the article described TV-film footage that showed campers marching to chants such as "don't want flour, don't want sardines — we want bombs." It also quoted from an interview with a camp instructor, who proclaimed: "This is all Palestine from the (Jordan) river to the (Mediterranean) sea. We will continue the struggle to victory in liberating Palestine." A teenager was quoted insisting that Jews leave and "go back where they came from, Poland, Russia." Unmistakably, the rhetoric of the camp called for the destruction of the Jewish state — it did not advocate Palestinian independence alongside Israel.
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1 jimmytheclaw  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 8:20:32pm

correction isn't that al-rueters

2 evariste  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 8:21:17pm

Arabic for "bombs" is "qanabeel". I guess that rhymes with "saradeen" ("sardines").

3 K.  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 8:30:50pm

OT: soon to come: Maariv in English. Stay tuned.

4 evariste  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 8:33:35pm

Is Maariv superior, K.?

5 K.  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 8:38:50pm

more mainstream than haaretz or jpost.

6 evariste  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 8:40:59pm

So in a US newspaper analogy; Ha'aretz is the NYT, JPost the WSJ, and Ma'ariv-WaPo? Yes? No? Kind of?

7 NTropy  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 8:41:39pm

OT

I've been sentenced to jury duty tomorrow. For the inevitable, miserable, horrid waiting I picked up a copy of The Middle East by Bernard Lewis.

Not quite what I was looking for (that was Claim of Dispossession: Jewish Land Settlement and the Arabs, 1878-1948

Anybody care to toss a review of either one my way?

8 K.  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 8:42:15pm

haaretz has been creeping ever further to the left. they now have 'peace now' ads on every page.jpost is great, but its not a hebrew newspaper. arutz7 is on the right. I think it would be cool for us outsiders to see the mainstream israeli perspective.

9 evariste  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 8:44:39pm

Oh really? JPost is English only? Weird.
Is arutz7 a newspaper too, and did you see the petition Zaide linked to on the other thread?

10 evariste  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 8:45:12pm

I agree, it will be cool.
I just hope it's not disappointing.

11 evariste  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 8:45:40pm

tough to draw an exxact analogy here. i've seen israeli papers, the two most popular being yediot ahronot and maarivkl and thyey'r basically tabloids but normal ppeople read them, not just the intellectual 'elite' in the case of haaretz or the anglo community in the case of jpost

12 K.  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 8:46:54pm

jesus christ! i'm drunk.

that wasn''t evariste. #11 is me. ok i'll resume posting once sober

13 K.  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 8:48:02pm

I wasn't trying to impersonate you , eva. I typed yoru name in the wrong field

14 NTropy  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 8:52:47pm

K.

If you think you're too drunk to post, you're too drunk to post" - Iron Fist

15 robofund  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 8:53:46pm

Further developments regarding media bias: Is it my imagination or has the Economist finally stopped linking to the Gaurdian?

16 evariste  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 8:56:23pm

It's ok, I've come close to doing that about twenty times.
Then I finally gave up & checked the "remember me" checkbox.

17 Brent  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 9:13:11pm

From my interview with David Horowitz:

[Link: ville.blogfodder.net...]

Brent:
The AP and Reuters continue to confound and anger us pro-Israel bloggers by their overt displays of solidarity with the various Palestinian terrorist factions. We view these news organizations as biased, anti-Semitic propagandists.

Mr. Horowitz:
The news media has been thoroughly infiltrated and thoroughly dominated by the Left. Until that changes- it’s not just their Israel reportage; look at the way they behave during this war. They try to find everything wrong. I mean this is the most brilliant military campaign ever conducted - ever! And they have coughed and sniped at the American leadership and the American military and the American president from Day One.

This is a problem - for Israelis it’s a major aspect, but it’s a minor aspect of the press. It’s biased all over the place and that’s partly a consequence of the Leftist domination of the universities.

Brent: Could you tell us why the AP and Reuters refer to terrorists as “militants”?

Mr. Horowitz:
It’s Marxism in the journalism schools. I just had lunch with- this guy is a pretty good guy even though he’s on the Left; he’s not a Marxist. He’s the head of the Journalism School at USC. I asked him if he could name a single conservative on his faculty, he said no. A radical, Orville Schell, runs the Journalism School at UC Berkeley and the head of the search committee is a Marxist, Troy Duster.

Why would you expect the press to be any different when the training institutions for the press are controlled by the hard-left? I should say the anti-American Left.

18 Connecticut Yankee  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 9:42:47pm

#17 Brent

Thanks for doing that interview!

Another good column: Den Beste does a fine job of taking apart one of Newsweek's finest, who thinks [quote] ... that there hasn't been enough emphasis on American casualties. Somehow, it seems as if it isn't getting through to the majority of Americans that we are stuck in a quagmire and should pull out, despite the best efforts of the press to get that message across. It's clear that more is needed, and Brant suggests that there should be coverage of coffins returning home.[end quote]

[Link: denbeste.nu...]

19 Poly  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 9:44:51pm

As a communications student, I gotta say #17 Brent is spot on. All facets of academia spew marxist thought, as I said in the comments to the previous post), but the study of communications and journalism is so concerned with the media being a product of "ruling class" hegemony that it's little wonder journalists operate from a primarily left-wing perspective.


(Possibly) silly question though, who is David Horowitz?

20 Poly  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 9:46:48pm

maybe bit rushed to say all facets of academia. Should probably say the MAJORITY of academia, particularly those related to political/social subjects.

21 evariste  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 9:55:56pm

Does marxist spew really count as "thought", Poly?
To me it seems like infinite application of the same tired template to the interpretation of events. Nothing thoughtful about it.
Do you ever encounter truly original and fascinating marxist viewpoints in academia? Or is it all the usual doctrinaire yada yada?

22 spidly  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 10:12:18pm

#21 evariste

good point - "we're on the side of justice, we're on the side of human rights - long live the intifada!"
now that's just too stupid to be Orwellian.

23 RC neo-Jew  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 10:15:56pm

Put in your own scare quotes. BBC morning news in UK shows car swarm in Gaza, while telling told us how many Palestinians were killed and injured. The newsreader's voice was just one big set of scare quotes as she said: "Israel described the raid as part of its war against terrorism." ("Israel described" in BBC accounts translates as "the Zionist oppressors lied when they said".)

Distant memories of college days, and Marxist students going on to become either teachers or journalists, as this was regarded as the best way to influence the largest number of people and spread their doctrines. So don't be too surprised to find ageing Sixties and Seventies Marxists in the BBC, academia, etc.

#7 Ntropy

When I did jury sevice we cured the problem of bored waiting by bringing in some Ali McBeal tapes to watch - there was video equipment for the "how to be a juror" film.

24 DCCLXX  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 10:21:26pm

For a group that puts such a premium on honour, respect and not being humiliated, the Islamic world spews the most disrespectful, vile rhetoric and curses at their perceived enemies. "Unclean infidels", "accursed of God", "Sons of Pigs and Monkeys" etc. Some one should politely remind these dolts that if you dish it out, you should be prepared to take it as well. The only problem is, there is no one seriously dishing it out. Maybe its time for the rest of the world to hold Islamic spokespersons to the same standards as we hold everyone else to. Treating them like children who aren't responsible for their actions only perpetuates the problem.

The other irony that totally escapes these Islamic Jihadists is that they forget their own history. They often proclaim the amazing feat of the "Prophet" in overcoming tremendous odds and how his followers were outnumbered 100-1 in the early days but still won their struggle because of their faith, determination and the rightness of the struggle. Now their tune is that the Jews are a small minority and that Islam is 1.3 Billion strong. By this fact alone, they now say, victory is assured. Maybe they should consult their Koran on this one.

25 hans ze beeman  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 10:26:16pm

#17: Brent

A thorough and fantastic analysis of the deeper roots of all this distortion can be found here. I like this part:

And yet the blind trust in the sacred principle of national self-determination seemingly cannot be shaken in certain quarters. In September 2002, Richard Butler, the Chief Arms Inspector of the United Nations, berated the USA for its "double standard" in wishing to oppose the proliferation of nuclear weapons to any nation state that wanted them. What blessing does he believe that the United States is trying to deny to smaller nations? Is he thinking about the citizens of those nations who will have to foot the bill for such fantasy projects? Or those who will likely die if the U.S. decides to abandon its "double standard?" Or the state of the world that would result from such an abandonment?
Can anything make clearer that intelligent men of our time are stuck with grotesquely outmoded concepts and categories?
26 Ayatrollah  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 10:28:55pm

I've been thinking about this alot. In VN we averaged something like 180 GI's killed per week for 7 years. Iraq is not even close in terms of KIA. I'm curious, but lazy, to see how many people have met violent deaths in some cities like NYC, LA, Chicago, Detroit and NO over the same amount of time. I bet one or two are pretty close. Seems Iraq might be a damn safe place to be for a war zone.

27 Allah-Puncher  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 10:30:19pm

Check out the hilarious satire on Indymedia that is riling up the morlocks.

"Zionist conspiracy ranking based on system of Zio-badges"

[Link: www.indymedia.org...]

I expect to have at least 10 comments on that article before one of the mods wakes up and the thread gets terminated.

28 Goldenwebb  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 10:36:01pm
My Zionazi is Benjamin Cohen. Before each meeting, we have to bow, kiss his circumcised penis, and then say "May Yah-Weh swallow our souls and poop us on the [bigoted word]s!" I'm not sure why we say that, but hey, rules are rules, aren't they?

LOL!

29 Poly  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 10:36:54pm

Damn, i completely lost my post.

to answer your question, evariste, i don't think it's the ideology itself as much as it is people doing exactly what #22 spidly said.

But they don't represent the left. They represent people who spout left-wing ideology from their cushy western democratic lifestyle. They think that Western Capitalise Democracy is more evil than the Fascist theocracies of the third world/developing countries/middle east, so they're prepared to fight for those aims. That is idiotarian.

What's not idiotarian is Marxist thought put in a capitalist framework - so, like, neo-marxism. Coz I don't believe in a fundamentalist market perspective. Government intervention is totally necessary, and most people on the conservative right would agree with that. There is some inquiry that stems from Marxists that works. Govt vs Market is one of them for me. Social welfare works for me, etc. You could say that's not left wing, that people on the right have a social conscience too, but that's part of the whole thing.

What's funny is that as much as we may disagree with marxist thought, there are as many marxists who disagree with each other. Mainly they criticise western democratic institutions (such as media), but they don't have an answer for something that would fit their cause in a better way. As much as Chomsky is lauded for his views on media and political economy, i've read marxist theorists who say he's excessively deterministic.

sigh.

So I just take on the post-modern perspective and say I have no frigging clue about anything. Except chocolate. I like chocolate.

30 Tupsox  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 10:37:13pm

car swarm alert.
[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

gotta love the expression of the "driver"

31 Poly  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 10:39:17pm

I just realised I answered that question in a completely roundabout way. or didn't answer it. hah. my bad.

To answer the question, there's nothing new under the sun. or something.

32 Goldenwebb  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 10:40:48pm

Love the first response:

Your willingness to cower behind "the Jews", and draw such a gross characature [sic] of the situation, as Disinformation Agents are prone to doing, only betrays the fact that you know what you're doing is morally-bankrupt, and demonstrates your desperation, as pressure mounts against you.

Change the context and read the above as a criticism of Indymedia anti-Semitism and it actually makes sense.

33 Ayatrollah  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 10:41:54pm

He's like 'Yo dude I gots me a new ride!"

34 Poly  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 10:44:07pm

I totally didnt get what the first guy was saying. He kept clouding the issue "thusly". I think he was saying people who want a safe homeland for jews are threatening to jews.

I could be wrong, though.

35 Goldenwebb  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 10:50:33pm

Tupsox, Ayatrollah:

You guys have me laughing so hard I've got tears running down my cheeks.

36 Goldenwebb  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 11:07:24pm

But this ain't funny, just predictable and pathetic:

Chrétien has no comment on Mahathir: Won't personally condemn remarks by Malaysian PM

In his final days in power, on his last official trip to Asia, Prime Minister Jean Chrétien suffered an unexpected casualty yesterday. He lost his tongue. Fresh from hobnobbing with world leaders and chit-chatting with business executives at an Asia-Pacific trade summit here, Chrétien did something no other Western leader has done. He went before the cameras and declined to personally condemn the anti-Semitic comments made by Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad that have caused a storm of controversy around the world.
37 spidly  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 11:13:50pm

as you can see, having their douche-bag terrorist homeys blown to bits is a very traumatic experience

38 Rayra's had enough of these cLLLowns  Mon, Oct 20, 2003 11:23:12pm

OT -
Hey kids! Friday is United Nations Day! (in fact, UN Week started 48hrs ago).

How are you going to commemorate it? Me - I think I'll buy a UN Flag and burn it.

39 Smit  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 1:44:34am

#38 Rayra :)

With all this flag burning going on - it's no surprise China's economy is doing well. - I wonder who supplies the UN flags.

Indonesian protesters burn US flag

Philippeno protesters burn US flag

When even Old Glory is made in China

40 Terrance  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 2:03:24am

Can anyone confirm this.. but wasn't this news company bought by an Arab? I'm sure UP or one of the world's top news organisations was.

I remember seeing a plack in downtown London about Mr Reuters, a German Jewish immigrant to London.

Again, I'm not 100% sure about this, it was a few years ago...

41 oregonian  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 2:08:36am

Off Topic - BBC reports on a US soldiers experience in Iraq. They have a series if pictures of said soldier's "experience". But if you notice they reverse the images so that the stars and stripes are backwards. BBC = leftist fuckers. Check it out.. freaking bastards. Pictures 7 and 12. Just artistic discretion? Not hardly. It's planned.

42 scaramouche  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 2:13:31am

#36 Goldenwebb

Chretien is about to shuffle off the International stage--not that he made much of a ruckus while he was on it--and is reluctant to do anything "controversial" before his goes. He has an overinflated view of his own legacy, which, as far as I can tell, consists of pussy-footing and cowardice. As a Canadian, I am ashamed at the Prime Minister's lack of backbone and integrity. As a Jew, I am horrified that he would warmly shake the hand of the hateful moonbat without commenting on his recent anti-Semitic screed. I was reminded of the Jew-hating Liberal minister in charge of immigration during the 1940s. When asked how many of Europe's Jewish refugees should be allowed into Canada he replied, "none is too many." A book by that title records his imfamy. I'm sure history will confirm and record Chretien's, too.

43 scaramouche  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 2:40:03am

Here's a strong editorial this morning from Canada's national newspaper, The Globe and Mail.
[Link: www.globeandmail.com...]

44 Tamar  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 3:40:06am
A teenager was quoted insisting that Jews leave and "go back where they came from, Poland, Russia."

My family has been here since 1903---where am I supposed to "go to"??

Most so called "Pals" are Egyptian or Jordanian--they know where they can go!

45 Smit  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 3:47:04am

OT - This is not a joke.

Sesame Street embarks on Middle East peace mission

On the Israeli show, Israeli and Arab characters are friends and band together to stage a peaceful protest when one of the muppets bangs his drums too loudly.
In an episode created for the Palestinian Ma'an Network, children are shown struggling to reach a high shelf or trying to ride a bike to a chorus of "keep trying, you will get there".

paging iowahawk...

46 Tamar  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 3:54:33am

We have had that programme "Rehov Sum-Sum" for about 15 years.

This ain't news!

47 view from Ireland  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 3:57:15am

#41 oregonian

they reverse the images so that the stars and stripes are backwards. BBC = leftist fuckers. Check it out.. freaking bastards. Pictures 7 and 12.

Yeah, they 'reverse' the images, but somehow manage to keep the letters 'US ARMY' right reading in pic 12!
Not only 'leftist fuckers', but witches as well!

Paranoid, You?

Get a life.

48 lawhawk  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 4:04:31am

#26:

The FBI keeps statistics like that on their website:

The year 2001 will always be remembered as the year terrorists turned commercial airliners into murder weapons and used them to kill 3,047 innocent people. Counted within that number are 72 local, state, and federal law enforcement offi cers, the most offi cers ever lost in a single day. Seventy offi cers were feloniously killed during 2001 in incidents not related to the events of September 11, and 78 offi cers died in duty-related accidents. Data submitted to the Uniform Crime Reporting Program indicate that 56,666 law officers were assaulted during the year and, of those, 16,202 received injuries.

[Link: www.fbi.gov...]

[Link: www.fbi.gov...] - has the 2002 violent crimes index, including ratios and other statistics.

49 Buster Bunny  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 4:09:39am

#47

VFI,

I thought it was strange when i joined the YM RASU

my 0.02s worth

50 reaganite  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 4:13:41am

As much as I hate to admit it, the Howling Banshee™ is correct. The flag is not reversed. On military uniforms and aircraft the star field is always to the front. It implies always going forward.

51 Joshua  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 4:18:30am

EVERYBODY:
I am an aol user, and I cant send a message to charles, but I think this would be an important thread

In the joint statement, the three European foreign ministers recognized Iran's right "to enjoy peaceful use of nuclear energy in accordance with the Nonproliferation Treaty."

France, Britain and Germany agreed that "the full implementation of Iran's decisions, confirmed by the IAEA director general, should enable the immediate situation to be resolved by the IAEA board," the statement said.

The statement added: "Once international concerns, including those of the three governments, are fully resolved Iran could expect easier access to modern technology and supplies in a range of areas."

De Villepin told reporters the Europeans' trip had achieved important progress on the three pending issues: signing and the early implementation of the additional protocol, full cooperation with the IAEA, and suspension of all enrichment and reprocessing activities.

Straw had spoken with U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell about Tuesday's meeting. Unlike the U.S. administration, which has characterized Iran as being part of an "axis of evil," London has sought to engage Tehran's hard-line regime. Tuesday's visit was Straw's fifth to Iran since becoming foreign secretary.

During the talks, about 150 Iranian students opposed to Iran giving ground on the nuclear issue demonstrated outside.
[Link: foxnews.com...]

52 Buster Bunny  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 4:18:48am

New Sesame Street Characters in Palestine

a revised list of muppets for the palestinian street.

Oscar the Homeless Grouch (who lives in a tin can)

Mr Snuffalupagus (corse with a nose like that he's JEWISH)

Bert and Ernie (two seriously misunderstood Jihadis lost in waning for palestine)

Blow me up Elmo

Natan the FRIENDLY Isreali tank

Arafat the homosexual love doll

and of course Big Bird who is organising everything then quits because Arafat really runs the street

53 Smit  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 4:50:08am

Buster Bunny :)


Pakistan, Saudi Arabia conclude secret nuclear deal

Pakistan-Saudi secret agreement on nuclear cooperation

Saudis to build their own bomb. Weren't we talking about this not too long ago? MiddleEast nuclear arms race now on.

54 Allah-Puncher  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 4:52:25am

VFI, there might be some confusion because the US army puts the flag backwards on its uniform for some reason, and not too many people are aware of this.

The BBC are most certainly biased towards the left, especially on the American right/left scale, but a backwards flag isn't really what I'm looking for hehe.

55 Joel  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 4:54:36am

I have read that the BBC and al-Reuters recruit staff by advertising in only left wing newspapers such as al-Guardian, The Independent, and The Daily Mirror.

56 view from Ireland  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 4:57:57am

#55 Joel

That's true (in the case of the Guardian, but not the Indo or Mirror), but then all the other UK media (of whatever political persuasion) do too. The Guardian have the media job listings market sewn up.

57 Ariel  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 4:59:07am

Allah-Puncher #27,

That thread was too funny. What a bunch of whackos.

scaramouche #43,

I was pretty surprised to see that in the G&M; I had thought that there wasn't Jew-hatred that they could oppose. Thanks for posting that and showing that there are some lows they won't sink to.

58 Lucia Flavia Mensia Bovinata (aka Stormi)  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 5:49:41am

WAY OT--

AFN just showed The Movie That Shall Not Be Named. And I am ashamed to admit, I watched it. In its entirety (well, as entire as AFN gets, anyway).

I had never before watched all of it. But for some reason, I was inexplicably drawn and couldn't tear my eyes away.

Good grief, Charlie Brown. I need help.

59 AG the angry Texan  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 5:53:39am

#58

What movie is that?

60 andrew  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 5:58:42am

#59
AG
Hi! I think maybe it's a certain movie with a certain Mr. Dreyfus.

61 AG the angry Texan  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 6:03:05am

Does it star Opus the Peguin?

62 andrew  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 6:03:38am

I think so

63 Tasty Manatees  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 6:10:04am

Off topic, but The Nation just put up an editorial urging the U.S. to leave Syria alone. Here's the link:
Is Syria Next?

No big surpise that this is coming from The Nation, but it's an important article nonetheless, because it is the propaganda line the Syrians have now chosen and their apologists will be spouting for the next six months (minus the obligatory "Kill the Jews!", but they did manage to get in "coddling Israel").

My favorite line:

No one doubts that citizens of Syria and Lebanon would benefit from the demise of the Ba’athist dictatorship. But making an enemy of Syria will neither lead to the flowering of Syrian democracy nor bring an end to terror in Israeli cities.

Silly me, I thought their financial support, housing, and training for Hezbollah, Hamas, Al Qaeda, Islamic Jihad, et al. and their sending terrorists across their borders to kill American servicemen already qualified them for "enemy" status. What's more, I thought that by vanquishing the Ba'athists and liberating the Syrians, we would be eliminating that deadly enemy.

Tasty Manatees

64 belize042  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 6:12:08am

#38 I plan to celebrate UN Day the same way I do every year; speak only French for a day and tell everyone, no matter what they say, that they're being "simplistic."

65 jimmytheclaw  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 6:52:12am

#27 Allah-Puncher 10/21/2003 12:30AM PST

spitting my coffeee on the monitor from this one


Zionist conspiracy ranking based on system of Zio-badges (english)
The Man With The Plan 11:38pm Mon Oct 20 '03 (Modified on 8:43am Tue Oct 21 '03)
article#355545

It has finally been settled how you are ranked within the Zionist conspiracy. It is a system of Zio-badges, and not a Zio-point based system, as previously thought. Angry_Manc, take note of this.

It has finally been settled how you are ranked within the Zionist conspiracy. It is a system of Zio-badges, and not a Zio-point based system, as previously thought.

Zio-badges were chosen for two reasons:

1) They look really pretty when sewn onto your uniform or onto the back of your Yarmulka.

2) They show the exact accomplishments that you have made in furthering the cause of Zionism and oppressing Muslims, instead of just a general sense.

The Jews that are part of the Zionist conspiracy (pretty much all of them) sew the Zio-badges on the inside of their Yarmulkas, then when they hang out together at the temple or the local secret meeting they all wear their hats inside out and there's a big badge in the Middle that shows your rank. It's very similar to the Boy Scouts.

You see, I happen to have recently joined the Zionist conspiracy, and that is how I know all this stuff. Not because I believe in Zionism, but because they give you an excellent retirement package and worker benefits, plus its tax exempt. Booyah!

Anyways, I already have the internet propaganda Zio-Badge, which is two transmission towers with a little Star of David sparking between them. Right now my rank is only "Goy-Toy" but I hope to move up to Zionist Master Sorceror eventually, which is the highest rank you can acheive as a gentile. The Zionist Master Sorceror ranking badge is a big badge of this wizard wearing a Merlin cap, and between his hands is this red arcing Star of David in energy. To get the Zionist Master Sorceror rank though, I have to kill at least one Muslim or bulldoze a large apartment complex full of Muslims. This gets you one of those badges with the Star of David imposed over a swastika or one of the badges that shows a big Bulldozer on it.

When you reach the rank of Zionist Master Sorceror, they actually start to teach you some Kaballah and Talmudic magic. The main ritual that you have to learn is the Zionist Circle Jerk. This Circle Jerk must be completed at each Cabal meeting at least twice a month. The purpose of it is for the negative energies generated by it will go over to the Middle East and cause all the Arab and Muslim countries to be politically, economically, socially, and scientifically backwards. This is the real reason that all the Muslim countries are so poor and run by dictatorships, because the Zionist chapter houses have been Circle Jerking them into poverty and squalor.

The highest rank you can be without entering politics is Zionazi, and each Jewish community center is headed by one Zionazi. My Zionazi is Benjamin Cohen. Before each meeting, we have to bow, kiss his circumcised penis, and then say "May Yah-Weh swallow our souls and poop us on the [bigoted word]s!" I'm not sure why we say that, but hey, rules are rules, aren't they

66 selpaw  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 7:12:03am
And since people always discount DEBKAfile stories (even though they are often proven right),

Charles. Debka or mainstream media? Mainstream media never covers the real stories-
Look at it this way, if most people read Debka, at least
they would be somewhat educated as to what is going on.
Debka or whorewire wire services?
Even if what Debka reports is half correct, they are still more accurate than the others.
Anyway, Debka's ability to call a spade a spade is quite refreshing.

#37 quark2hasratpoisontoshare

I'm thinking either Israel or us will be the first target in the coming nuke war. We ain't seen nasty yet.


Sadly, I think you are right :' - ((

Unfortunately, the world's self imposed naivete concerning the proliferation epidemic is in many respects more frightening than the weapons themselves.
It simply blows my mind how the human race can ignore the multitudinous barrage of 'in your face' signs and signals by countries who are so bonkers, so dangerously on the brink...!

I must admit, I blame some of this on the media and government as well. I truly feel until the whole truth is told, not shielded, humankind will continue to mimic those famous three monkeys. Until then our survival hangs in the balance.

63 Tasty Manatees
...the coddling of syria bullshit falls right into what I just wrote about.

67 K.  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 7:12:41am

sorry for the PUI folks (#11-#13). my roomate turned 21 yesterday

68 Former Belgian  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 12:39:59pm

#40: Reuters was formed in the 19th century by an apostate Jew named Paul Julius Reuter.


Jean Chrétien (related by marriage to Jacques ChIraq, and illiterate in two languages) confirms all my prejudices, and ought to be called Jean Cretin. If a country truly has the leaders it deserves (a saying first coined, ironically, by the French royalist Joseph de Maistre during Napoleon's reign), then the Canadians must really have teed off the Guy Upstairs.

69 Rayra's had enough of these cLLLowns  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 1:24:30pm
#40 Terrance 10/21/2003 04:03AM PST
Can anyone confirm this.. but wasn't this news company bought by an Arab? I'm sure UP or one of the world's top news organisations was. ...
...Again, I'm not 100% sure about this, it was a few years ago...


Terrance. Saudi Prince Alwaleed. Evariste has a bunch of info on it, and he and I swapped some links within the last couple weeks.


#41 oregonian 10/21/2003
04:08AM PST
Off Topic - BBC reports on a US soldiers experience in Iraq. They have a series if pictures of said soldier's "experience". ... Check it out.. freaking bastards. Pictures 7 and 12. Just artistic discretion? Not hardly. It's planned.


Oregonian you are WAY off base (about the flags, NOT the BBC ;)) - that is exactly how the US Flag is supposed to be, on the right side of a vehicle or uniform - the Field always leads, as if the flag is streaming in the wind.
IF fact, it is currently being worn INcorrectly on some of the warmup jackets seen on the field at the World Series.
Here's some other US Flag Etiquette tidbits.


#64 belize042 10/21/2003 08:12AM PST
#38 I plan to celebrate UN Day the same way I do every year; speak only French for a day and tell everyone, no matter what they say, that they're being "simplistic."

lol - so I wonder how the French themselves will celebrate, as they do what you describe nearly every other day...

70 robofund  Tue, Oct 21, 2003 8:03:32pm

#41

#47

#50

#69

Re: Flag

To all. The proper way of displaying the U.S. flag is to always have the stars in the upper left hand corner; it is much more complicated then that but you get the point.

However, if U.S. troops are conducting operations in another country, or any other place outside U.S. sovereignty, out of courtesy, they are to display a reverse flag on their uniforms. The flag is shown this way to imply U.S presence but not U.S sovereignty.

This does not apply to U.S bases overseas as they are considered U.S territory.

It is also proper etiquette to display the U.S. flag with the stars on the upper right when on a coffin. As the flag would appear correct from the point of view of the deceased.

I am a Marine Corps veteran of the first gulf war and Somalia and learned this the hard way when I got in trouble during the the U.N phase of Restore Hope by not observing this aspect of military courtesy.

Personal rant: Being that I had the misfortune of working with the U.N, I feel that I have an inside opinion of that organization. Without question, the surest way to increase the severity of a humanitarian crisis is to involve the U.N.

Semper - Fi.

71 A. van Hilten  Wed, Oct 22, 2003 4:50:08am
"Martyrdom in Islam refers to when a person gets
killed by accident or for the sake of a noble cause
such as defending his land or religion."


Wafa Amr, Reuters (Arafat: Willing to Die a 'Martyr', September 17, 2003)

Enough said.


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