Allah cannot fucking believe that this half-woman is who he must support for president. Seriously, what is the problem with nominating Mahathir? Is it a residency thing? C'mon, kufr, let's do this!

So that's what a "metrosexual" is? Makes me want to stop working in the City.

Charles: "Howard Dean. Presidential candidate. Democrat. Metrosexual."

You left off "self destructive loser". It looks to me like he just committed suicide.

I'm repeated what I wrote in a previous thread.

Metrosexual: Isn't that something they stone you to death for in the West Bank?

If Dean is a metrosexual, then Lieberman is a bisexual paraplegic mulatto Muslim. When it comes to pandering to special interest groups, L3BRRRM@N 0wnZ j00!

Metrosexual?

Don't you mean: Emasculated Stuffed (Designer) Suit.

Yeah, in times like these what we really need is a Nancy-boy in office.

Next thing you know, Dean will be prancing around the stage with his twig and berries tucked in, Silence of the Lambs style.

"It puts the lotion in the bucket"

So Dean is in touch with his feminine side(s)? How about his rational side? Will he be making an appearance soon on "Sex and the City?" Psychobabble and buzz 'R us.
Hary, Tom, Ike, Adlai--come back. All is forgiven.

I'm confused. Does this mean he can or can't be the straight guy on "Queer Eye for the Straight Guy"?

If Dean is a "square" then he is probably a Quatrosexual who hasn't been in touch with his innerchild lately.
The whole concept (of polititians declairng their sexual orientation) makes me nostalgic for Clinton's "don't ask / don't tell" policy.

Don't listen to him!! He's one of those "Crab People."

(Yeah, I had to get this in from last week's "South Park".)

HE's ONE OF THE CRAB PEOPLE!

but I don't know what it means."

heck, I'll be anything you want, and if you're offended, I won't know what it really meant.

Next week, I'll be your camel felch&r...unless it's wrong or something....

RightIsRight,

It puts the lotion on its skin, or it will get the hose again.

Never thought of Buffalo Bill as a "metrosexual", but ya learn sumpin' new ever'day.

(I thought metrosexual was what was left at the end of Queer Eye for the Straight Guy...)

Reminds me of an old punk/new-wave tune by the one-shot band Sterling called "Robosexual"

"The first robosexual is steppin' out!"
change to
"Howard Dean, metrosexual, is stepping out,
Tripped over the Purple line and landed on his Foggy Bottom."

The only position that I would vote for a Dimmocrap is for human land-mine detector; they are a waste of oxygen for anything else (Zell Miller excluded and maybe one or two others). If this bunch of mindless dweebs is the best that the Dimmocraps have to offer, time to nail the coffin shut and bury that sucker six foot deep, that party is dead and stinkin'.

I believe his exact quote was, "I tried metrosexuality once in college, but I didn't inhale."

Charles, you forgot to hat tip Bourgeois Reactionary.

Has anyone seem this: Suspect Arrested

The name Dikran is armenian, and his last name sounds as such also. Could he be a Jihadi??? Finally an arrest of a Jihadi in the California fires?

Metrosexual-(n) 1. Losing Presidential candidate
2. Symonyms-George McGovern, Edmund Muskie
3. Governor whose fifteen minutes are just about over.

I used to beat up metrosexuals in middle school

#19

You forgot to mention Michael Dukakis.

At first I thought, this must be from the Onion.

But no, truth is stranger than fiction.

The saddest part is the knowledge that this guy could walk around with a Carmen Miranda fruit basket on his head, and still have a serious shot at the presidency. Half the country voted for Al Gore despite the fact that he was a deranged maniac; they'll have no problem voting for this twit either.

Right is Right, you made my night with post#7- "Preciousss!!"

#18 Apparently it's an Armenian name. Not muslim. Just a local loser.

#5 Deathberg:

When it comes to pandering to special interest groups, L3BRRRM@N 0wnZ j00!

LOL!

Actually, even though guys don't float my boat, Dean seemed the only one of them with any conceivable "manly appeal," but I guess he's required to piss that away too.

Ah, but here's some serious fun!

SENATOR ZELL MILLER OF GEORGIA, the nation's most prominent conservative Democrat, said today he will endorse President Bush for re-election in 2004 and campaign for him if Bush wishes him to. Miller said Bush is "the right man at the right time" to govern the country.

A sitting senator passing on all nine of his party's candidates to back the opposition party's incumbent has got to hurt. It also opens the door for lots of southerners who only vote Dem out of habit to rethink their position.

Zell is supposed to be on H&C shortly. Please excuse me while I lapse briefly into full gloat. Apologies in advance.

Villanova (#22):

Al Gore ... was a deranged maniac

Come on.

You forgot to mention Michael Dukakis.

Oh please, please, please let his campaign advisors tell him the only way to make up for the "metrosexual" comment is to strap on a helmet and climb in a tank, scaramouche. If Allah can make this happen, surely it will add momentum to the "Draft Mahathir" movement. Although how Mahathir would differ from most of the current crop escapes me. After all, what's to worry about with a Jew contolling a dozen aircraft carriers sitting well out of reach of the Muhajadeen?

I think the whole concept is, you'll forgive the expression, a red herring. It's really just another opportunity for those of the leftish persuasion so engage in their favorite pasttime: self-aggrandisement. See, not only are they smarter, more insightful and more compassionate, they also have much better taste than the hoi-polloi chowing down at the local Pizza Hut who buy their duds at Wal-Mart. That innate sense of superiority stands them in good stead when they want to berate the President for having the bad taste to depost an autocratic tyrant, and for his embarrassing adherence to the Christian faith.

A lot of Europeans are Metrosexuals.

Model4, I will trade you my Olympia Snowe for your Zell Miller.

Ok, ok, ok... I will also throw a Lincoln Chaffe to sweeten the pot.

Apparently it's an Armenian name. Not muslim. Just a local loser.

Yeah, but wasn't Armenia put under the Muslim Thumb sometime over the last two centuries? Couldn't he be a muslim, and the media is ignoring that fact to stop any reprisals against the rest of the ROP members in the area?

Q (#25)

Al Gore isn't interesting enough to be a deranged maniac. Although his voice is enough to make me manic.

Metrosexual? Was that Dean I saw in the subway last week with that guy who looked kinda like Pee Wee Herman? Scott Ritter said he was a metrosexual too - only hung out at downtown Burger Kings...

"Metrosexual" is about as old as the hills--only we used to call it a "fop."

Q, where we going? And will I be home for dinner? :)

Check out Earth in the Balance, and maybe review some tape of the 2000 debates, and get back to me about Al. I concluded I long time ago he is a bona-fide nut case.

#28 RightIsRight: Aw sheesh man, way to rain on my parade! Well, at least you didn't slap me with the Jumpin' Jim card. Although I do love God's creatures, weasels aside, it wouldn't pain me to see the RINOs go the way of the dodo.

"Metrosexual" is about as old as the hills--only we used to call it a "fop."

In Paradise such people are known as "dandies" or "fauntleroys."

#31 Agent Scruffy

Do I know you from GoldEagle?

#29, Armenians are the proudest Christians on the planet. Armenia was the first state to declare Christianity as a state religion (301 AD) and it's something that every Armenian- even those who are dedicated atheists, such as myself- points out at every opportunity... such as this one.

I suggest you do some research into Ottoman-Armenian relations (that is, genocide) as well as current relations between Armenia and, say, the Azeris.

I noticed your eagerness to turn this into some big scandal at an extremely premature time. Has this board degenerated into hatred of everything Middle Eastern?

Dean was endorsed by the California Teachers Association, otherwise known as the kindergarten-through-12th-grade branch of the Dimocrats. It makes sense, since if elected he says he would take money from the WoT to fund more union teacher salaries. Meanwhile, they are already running radio ads (paid by compulsory union dues) warning the Governator not to mess with them.

By the way, isn't it aggravating when the Dimocrats say they want to take the $87 billion from Iraq and spend it on (universal health care)/ (education)/ (spandex jackets, one for everyone)? They would really be taking $67 billion from resupplying our military, not "from Iraq", but no one in the media mentions that.

Metrosexual: in new zealand we call them wankers or ministers for local government

Howard Dean, proud graduate of the Ed Harris School of Authentic Manhood.

zulubaby #17 - thanks but it was on Instapundit and Drudge (but Matt took it off). It is such an honor even to be considered, especially by a luminary such as yourself...

Model4 #26 - "the only way to make up for the "metrosexual" comment is to strap on a helmet and climb in a tank"
!!!Crude Joke Alert!!!
Did you hear about the surgery most popular with lesbians? It's a 'strap-a-dick-to-me'.

"Mr. Dean says he is a Metrosexual! What say you Gutherie?"asked Marquise of Argyle.

"I hear many Frenchmen have that same malady." said Gutherie.

/ adapted from the MGM Feature Rob Roy starring Liam Niesan.

Has this board degenerated into hatred of everything Middle Eastern?

I love Israeli men. Does that count?

(Other Dem candidates to Dean): You look really gay.
(Dean): Thanks!

(Yes, that WAS a great South Park episode.)

(By the way, Roger L. Simon has an excellent point.)

(Yes, my brain is so fried right now from three solid days of 8-9 hour teleconference negotiations that I can only think in scattered strings separated by parenthesis.)

Bourgeois Reactionary (#41)

Aah, I tried :-)

Has this board degenerated into hatred of everything Middle Eastern?

Not at all. The Middle east had a lot of good things going for it before Islam oozed to the surface. Since then, their cultures aren't worth a plug nickel.

zulubaby (#30):

Yes, the real problem with Gore was the same as with the entire Dem party -- and Dean's antics are yet another manifestation of it -- they have no real identity (just behold the horror of Hillary's empty eyes), no principles, and no real agenda other than keeping/attaining the power.

Which is a shame, in a way. Having no serious political opposition is not a good thing. And not just because some of the Republican policies happen to be stupid and wrong. The absence of challenge to a dominant political power -- however correct on major issues that power might seem to be at the moment -- is not a good thing, period.

Ok the guy they caught starting fires was a nut case . Drop it already. He wasn't a Muslim fifth collumn. We had fires before we invaded Baghdad, and we will have them after Iraq is a representative democracy. In California hill country it will be a fact of life until we get rid of the eco wonks who protest clearing dead brush from park lands.

Me? I'm a retrosexual. It's been a long time since I've done it and I'd kind of like to do it again someday for old times sake.

Ba dum-bump.

#32 and #35:

You forgot pantywaist. That's one of my favorite synonyms for sissy.

Reminds me of a joke from 1988:

Q. Why do gays vote Democratic?
A. Because they'd rather have Du-C**K-is than Bush....

#43 zulubaby

I love Israeli men. Does that count?

Nice one ;-D

I love Jaffa oranges, does that count?

Q (#47)

Absolutely. Very well put and I couldn't agree more (especially the part about Hillary's eyes. Is she creepy, or what!?) I grew up being a huge liberal. I never, ever imagined that I would vote anything but Democrat. I imagined wrong. It's sad really but the Democrats frighten me. There doesn't seem to be a decent one amongst them and I don't trust any of them.

papertiger (#48)

Exactly.

Fay (#52)

Jaffa oranges definitely count. Does Ahava body lotion count? ;-)

Dean is, as I would say, a total nancy-boy. Also, what the hell is a metrosexual? Someone with a public trasnit fetish?

I hope Zell stays democrat. We need a sane dem.

Take the quiz.

@24 Model4

Oh thank you! You just made my day with that news.
Maybe just maybe there is some hope for the dems, if more like Zell start showing up.

#37 bugg 10/29/2003 06:27PM PST

I noticed your eagerness to turn this into some big scandal at an extremely premature time. Has this board degenerated into hatred of everything Middle Eastern?

bugg, are you ALWAYS hyper ventilating?

So Dean calls himself a metrosexual????

Didn't we used to simply call these people pussies before????

Devonator

This is the problem I have. I think the Republicans are a bunch of nuts, but the democrats are a bunch of pussies. I don't know which party to support.

I support progressive taxation, gasoline taxes, abortion rights, public education, gun control, and separation of church and state. I support most gay rights, but I oppose gay marriage. I support affirmative action, but at the same time I think people in the nation's ghettos need to get off their butts, put down the weed, get jobs, and teach their children to respect education and hard work instead of hustlers and hos. I support India, I support Israel, and I think that all Islamic terrorists everywhere are rabid animals who need to be put down, no negotiation, no Religion of Peace nonsense, just napalm and JDAMS.

So which party am I supposed to vote for?

#60 Anant

Go with the nuts.

zulubaby (#53):

I grew up being a huge liberal.

Ain't nothing wrong with that! I, for one, would like to reclaim the notion of "liberal" from both LLL abuse and RRR (rabid religious right) scorn. And, to tell the truth, I'm not entirely satisfied with "conservatives are true liberals" bromide, either ('cuz they're often not) -- and not inclined to worship "tradition" just for tradition's sake.

#61

LOL.

what we need in this country is a party for liberal hawks (which may, by definition, be a party for nuts). The republicans are conservative hawks, the democrats are liberal wimps. What's a liberal hawk to do?

@61 JD

Anant...what JD said....go with the nutz

According to the Economist, David Beckham is also a metrosexual, which they define as someone who "shaves their back, sack and crack"

yuck

Anant (#63):

What's a liberal hawk to do?

LGF poster george lincoln roach would tell you not to disrupt the consistency of "pro-life, pro-death penalty" (his exact words) of hawkish conservative program.

Liberal Hawk = Neocon

#65 midas mulligan

How can you say that about the genius?
/sarcasm off

#64, #61

Well, I honestly think there is a serious question here:

Has our system become so polarized that you have to be either entirely on the left or entirely on the right? To me it seems somewhat silly for us to think of politics as a spectrum. I see politics as a space of many orthogonal issues. Having just one specturm of "left" and "right" that lumps all issues together just doesn't cut it.

Sometimes I think that is why our voter turnout is so low. A lot of people I talked to in school didn't vote, not because they didn't care, but because they felt that having to vote either "republican" or "democrat" didn't really correspond to their views.

#66

I don't get it....

#63 Anant

The republicans are conservative hawks,

Not all of us are as conservative or hawkish as you may have been lead to believe. Really.

#70:

George Lincoln Rockwell is (was?) a founder and a leader of the American nazi party. LGF poster "roach" is a nasty buchananite and no-so-crypto-Jew-hater, who in one of his posts laid out a conservative agenda (as he saw it) using those exact words (in perhaps deliberately provocative juxtaposition). When I commented on that with a single word ("Nice"), he flew into rage, compared me to 9/11 hijackers etc.

He also stated that liberal hawks are poltically irrelevant and are best just to shut up and suck the supreme wisdom from the Republican cock (words to that effect).

#71

Well, I know that. What I think, however, is that in both parties, the people tend to be more moderate than the leaders. I certainly think this is true of the Democratic party. Given that I live in Massachusetts, I can't say I know what it's like in Republican-dominated states, but I would like to think that your average Republican is not as conservative as, say, Trent Lott.

The Dean folks aren't publicizing the metrosexual comment much. I found a lot of Bushatred out there in Dean land. I also learned that 'outfordean' is having trouble recruiting in Alabama - imagine that...

Does anyone else have the feeling that Dean's Internet campaign is mostly hype? Like it's the same twenty people over and over and over (just like all the Communist front organizations). I think he is really working it the old fashioned way - unions and big money.

[Link: www.deanforamerica.com...]

[Link: www.blogforamerica.com...]

[Link: gendeanblog.com...]

[Link: www.outyouthfordean.com...]

[Link: www.outfordean.com...]

I think it's illegal to be métro-sexual in France. Still, they find this so cool that they support him.

Anant #73 - "but I would like to think that your average Republican is not as conservative as, say, Trent Lott."

Shucks, your average DEMOCRAT down here is as conservative as, say, Trent Lott. Or Zell Miller.

Metrosexual means wuss doesn't it?

What important news! Just when we have to deal with North Korea, Iran, Al Qaeda, Militant Islam in general, France, Germany, Syria, nuclear proliferation and other nasties, we get an opportunity to elect a REAL leader, and a METROSEXUAL to boot! He's cute and hung like a 3 year old! I hope he picks Cynthia or Hillary as a running mate.
I'm SO excited about the upcoming presidential erection, aren't you?

IEB

#68

I had no idea. But if it's reported in the media, it must be true!

When I hear Howard Dean say this, I get the image of Dr. Evil in my head.

I'm hip. I'm with it. Yeah.

#73 Anant

I think that to some extent, what counts as "conservative" is affected by the part of the country where one is living, also by the big city/small town divide. John Derbyshire has some interesting reflections on this issue in "Confessions of a Metropolitan Conservative" in the NRO archives: [Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

Speaking of trolls, whatever happened to.................
Gordon?

metrosexual means never having to say you're sorry.

Sorry :-)

Eeeeeeeeew.
The thought of Dean and sexuality (of any kind) . . . ick!

#75 Hans,

Illegal, hell I thought it was mandatory.

I like the Brit's term for metrosexuals, puffters.

#83 Fay

I thought being a metrosexual means thats its O.K. to cry?

Especially when you get your ass kicked for being a puss-boy.

Okay, now I know what metrosexual is. Can somebody please tell me what's Wyclef Jean?

CandyAss also comes to mind.

#87,

Aren't those bootleg Levis?

#69 Anant: The GOP has moderated their views and rhetoric on many topics to reflect the larger will of the people over the last couple of decades. The Dems have gotten more extreme and shrill. But none of the issues at hand matter so much to me if my throat is slashed, or I'm bombed, WMD or not.

The Dems could easily have said "Hell yeah, we're going to win this war together as Americans. In fact, we with Bush would step up the pace." The issue would be taken off the table. That they now for all intents and purposes side with and defend the real religious right, in Riyahd, in Ramallah, in Tehran, in Baghdad, in Damascus, etc tells me who has really sold their soul, and won't compromise on anything.

A Commander-in-Chief in touch with his feminine side... LOL Is this the best the Democratic party has to offer?

#87 littleoldlady

Dean - metrosexual - Wyclef Jean.

I hope Dean is not having his Dukakis in a tank moment. He needs to save this for after the Dhimmicrat Convention.

Queasy #92

Thanks. (OY VEH!)

Anant, maybe you should say to hell with it and stand for election?

Memo to Howard Dean: The buzz phrase for feminine side is Kerb Crawler. Trust me. Tell them you're a Kerb Crawler.

Metrosexual?

You mean like Tom Cruise and Rebecca de Mornay in Risky Business?

Dean declared himself an "idiot," the buzz phrase for otherwise sensible people in touch with their brain-dead sides, as he touted his accomplishments in the Roadmap to Murderville.
But then he waffled.

"I'm not really that stupid," Dean declared, after professing his idiocy to a Boulder breakfast audience with an anecdote about being called clueless by an anti-Idiotarian blogger. "I like Jimmy Carter and everybody thinks I'm incomprensibly moronic, but I am really somewhat sensible, as my kids will tell you. I don't even go on the Internet. I've heard the term (idiot), but I don't know what it means."

#86 Kragar -

I thought being a metrosexual means thats its O.K. to cry?

Edmund Muskie must be rolling in his grave green with envy. (Sorry about the metaphor overload. I didn't want anyone to think this was the New York Times.)

How ad-Din may be short, but does anyone know what his shoe size is?

Dean declared ...

... everybody thinks I'm very hip

No no, they don't.

I predict the upcoming national election will once again be a Republican landslide with even larger majorities in both the House and Senate and of course retention of the executive office with our favorite cowboy

With Bush in for his last term - no more mr. nice guy which will be refreshing to see finally

Syria and Iran - well , you know - kablooey!

What really gets to me is that Dean (or any candidate) does not make a statement like that without scripting or practice. Someone in his campaign thought it was a good idea. Then Dean thought it was a good idea, backpedaling a little on the delivery just in case. He's really trendy and on the Internet and gay-friendly. What a dumb-ass.

Can anyone imagine W saying that? This illustrates to me the difference between the two major parties: the GOP is serious, the Dems are clowns.

The quizzes:
[Link: sports.espn.go.com...]

[Link: www.areyoumetro.com...]

Thanks CT Yankee #81 - I hadn't really thought of National Review as liberal... but they raise a good point about being less conservative than the rest of the USA.

Fay (#68)

Who cares what his IQ is? Agreed? :-)

The American Republic gets stronger when the Liberals come out of the woodwork hoping to make it weaker

Vote Bush 2004

Then we can kick more arab ass with, Syria and Iran top on the list

We must be MUCH bolder

#101 Borgeous Reactionary -

Amen. Kinda like going to New York, and saying "my very favorite food in the whole world is a Coney Island Frank with all the fixin's", and then six hours later in Minnesota, saying "my very favorite food in the whole world is Lutefisk and escalloped potatoes".

From the UK: Ian Duncan Smith has resigned as Tory leader. It was long threatened but not overly humiliating in the end. He called Blair a liar over Iraq just as Blair was at his peak against the BBC, which I found low and opportunistic appeasement of the BBC. But he has kept that line up, calling Blair a liar again and again and again. It's a shame, he wanted a victory for the quiet man, which I had warmed to.

After Tony Blair no Labour party will pull off Blair's mix of private welfare and conservatism, much less want to, the red, red grassroots are livid as it is.

So here's The Telegraph, slick bastards, on who's going to run the country.

(No offense intended to anyone, I'm just illustrating how ridiculous Dean's statement is...)

Dean declared himself a "homosexual," the buzz phrase for...well...homosexuals, as he touted his accomplishments in "equal justice" for gay and lesbian couples.

But then he waffled.

I'm a breeder," Dean declared, after professing his homosexuality to a Boulder breakfast audience with an anecdote about being called "fabulous" by a gay man. "I like (transvestite) Divine and everybody thinks I'm very swishy, but I am really a breeder, as my kids will tell you. I don't even get to go to bars. I've heard the term (homosexual), but I don't know what it means."

#101 Bourgeois Reactionary

Well, I got a one on the first test, but I like reading and my idea of a classic is Starship Troopers or the Uplift Wars. The other test said I was a redneck.

No wonder I don't like the Dhimmicrats, I'm not metro enough for them.

Before anyone nitpicks, re: #106, IDS lost a confidence vote and will be resigning shortly.

The Uplift Wars

Does that have anything to do with Push-Up Bras?

Hey, where are all the Deaniot trolls that swarmed on previous Dean threads?

dammit--i'm a metrosexual--it means being an unreconstructed hetero with good taste in clothes and design--it means you don't have to be a macho neanderthal putz to score a lot of pussy--its anti man-show/laddie magazine prole t&a culture--it doesn't mean having hypersensitivity to woman's issues or being in touch with your feminine side--i can moisturize and boff more pussy than you guys wank off too--i'll match my unit , scorecard and sexual highlight reel against any of you beer guzzling pizza eating assholes any day--back off men with good taste, manners and savoir faire or its fucking war--btw dean is more like a political metronome--he sounds like a ticking time bomb and swings between hostility and imbecility

#110 Frank

No, nothing about push up bras.

The Uplift Wars

I read the term "Metrosexual" and the first thing that hit my mind was an image of a unshaven, hasn't showered in days, scraggly haired man in a dirty smelly trenchcoat and worn out shoes riding the mass transit at 3am....

#102 zulubaby:

Who cares what his IQ is? Agreed? :-)

Actually I'm not a fan (have you heard him speak? He sounds like a girly man).

Now, if we are talking sportsguys, here's my list:

Todd Bertuzzi

Oops... can't make a list tonight,. The forces are, um, not with us or me...

gee whiz
#63
I also consider myself a liberal hawk

I can't believe that some of the posts on this forum are bigoted and just ignorant of new trends that are neither wimpy or definitive of sexuality.

dean is an idiot, agreed, for pandering to desperate groups of people in the country but god!

Fay (#115)

He sounds like a girly man

I'm heartbroken.

#116 jack frost AMEN and pass the courvoisier

#117 zulubaby:

I'm heartbroken

I'm pretty sure Q has the cure.

I would have been impressed if he said he likes Eminem, instead of Wycleff Jean. But that would have take balls.

To all the Metrosexuals, I don't know what magazine you work for but Metrosexual is not a thing a man should call himself, and the thing is Dean called himself your silly made-up word and then said he didn't know what it meant, which itself implies possible meanings.

#112 HULUGU 10/29/2003 09:22PM PST

dammit--i'm a metrosexual--it means being an unreconstructed hetero with good taste in clothes...

I have good taste too, have had my share of ladies, eat healthy foods, have travelled extensively, have a nice pad and car, etc, etc.

Does that make me a "metrosexual"? No, it means I'm a guy with good taste. end of story.

Anybody who refers himself as a metrosexual is a fag, period.

# 85 - dhimmi dhimmi kokopop

LOL!

Best. Name. Ever. :-)

btw, I'm voting for the nutz also.

Dom #106

From the UK: Ian Duncan Smith has resigned as Tory leader. It was long threatened but not overly humiliating in the end. He called Blair a liar over Iraq just as Blair was at his peak against the BBC, which I found low and opportunistic appeasement of the BBC. But he has kept that line up, calling Blair a liar again and again and again. It's a shame, he wanted a victory for the quiet man, which I had warmed to.

Not entirely sure where you are coming from Dom. For starters, your spelling is wrong, it's Iain not Ian. And, the reason he resigned is that he lost a vote of confidence in the House of Commons.

Let's get to the really juicy stuff. The person most likely to succeed Iain Duncan Smith is Michael Howard. Howard is; (cover your ears Allah) a Jew. Not only is he Jewish, he is also an anti Europe campaigner and a staunch supporter of the USA.

Wahoo......here is why Britain needs Howard

Fay, I corrected myself about the resignation in #108 and saw the tiny spelling error but figured, how arsey can someone be, and then I linked to the same document. Strange. No worries anyway.

Fay, Fay, not #108! #109, whatever you do.

Dom #125 oops didn't that, sorry.

Dom, what I meant was "didn't see that"

Time for bed me thinks.

:) We agree on the gist, is the main thing.

#122 neo con----you sound like your having YOUR period--the term "metrosexual" was utiiized by the nytimes style section this summer as a tongue -in-cheek description of city guys who aren't homos but who are into style culture and good grooming--so back off wanker--get a sense of humor and take that dick out of your ear!!

Dom #129

Good Night :-D

Looks like Dean is presidential material after all. Apparently both are unable to grasp the full meaning of the words that come out of their mouth(s?).

least he admits it.

#132 pink cream cheese

I think Bush can grasp the meaning of the things that come out of his mouth. It's the rest of us who find it difficult.

Metrosexuality goes against everything I stand for. What's wrong with football, cheeseburgers, cigarettes, and old blue jeans? What happened to manliness in this country?

HULUGU, are you about to fall off the bar again?

#65

David Beckham is also a metrosexual

No, he's a gay icon. It's different. He's definitely not very "in touch with his feminine side" when it comes to giving bloody noses or knee injuries to Argentinians. Nasty fouls, that Beckham.

Do people still seriously talk "hip/square"? I thought that was only in the sixties. And Wyclef Jean? Dean is not very up to date is he. It's the pimp legions of doom dominating the world charts now! sheesh, you have to be living in the amazon forest to be unaware of that...

"What I find the most alarming is his unapologetic stand against the war on terrorism and his continuing refusal to support our troops with the financial aid required to keep them safe while in harm's way," Halaby wrote.

I used to envy the fact in the US at least you had a decent, respectable, moderate left wing to vote for.

I'm for the liberal hawks idea too, but same problem, no one is representing that in one single package... I hate the bipolar system.

lol crab people gotta luv south park. anyone see the one where they found out earth was a reality program for aliens? they did spoof of jews run the intergalactic media. and it was satire i love how they mess with all groups especially the one after 9/11 when the kids went to afghanistan and they bitch slapped osama bugs buny daffy duck style

#87 littleoldlady 10/29/2003 08:13PM PST

wyclyff jean imho is a musician that started out combining reggae and rap and not bad at that as for his politics dunno but he has a few decent videos if you like that kinda music

SDNL had a skit where Dana Carvey played "Lyle -the effeminate heterosexual" (a sitcom satire) his boss, neighbors, wife and kids all thought he was gay. So for me a metrosexual is a lyle.

Dean isn't even close to presidential material. At this point--(and this is a 35 year lifelong Democrat talking) no Democrat is worthy to lead this country against the sig-heiling Islamic Supremacists we face today.

With the possible exception of Liberman (and that's not a very broad possibility, either) the Democrats suffer from Schizophrenia and a lack of will. Their idea of a way to counter Bush's strong showing against the Islaminazis is to get behind Michael Moore in his movie linking the Bush family to the Saudis.. but they would never stand up to the arabs themselves. (Dean pretty much said that if elected, he would go to the UN and make a lot of apologies- he'll somehow find the deep courage to kiss ass at the UN to reclaim the good will of the "internationals").

Bottom line: Democratic candidates don't seem to understand that the most terrible blow that has ever been dealt to wahabism (that they claim to "oppose") has been the defeat of the Hussein regime. (and the other thing that has hurt wahabism is the War on terror. We're kicking their asses right now, 24-7, across the entire globe).

If they truy oppose wahabbism or the Saudis, Democrats (and Michael Moore) would have been dedicated to the war against Saddam. They would have thrown their support into rebuilding Iraq and staying there as long as it takes to establish a decent country. Once that happens, wahabbism doesn't have a chance.

They just don't get how serious this is. They just spew stuff, adopt various fake positions, and talk about how much they hate Bush, or "Dubya" or "Shrub".. and they haven't offered one fucking thing to us.

You know what? I don't care about the "secret jet that picked up the Bin ladens nephews." I simply don't care. I just want Osama's head stuffed and enshrined at the Smithsonian within my lifetime. Thats what I care about.

Understand that, Democratic candidates. That's all I want.

#43 zulubaby

Me too! Me too!

And oh yeah, I'm pretty sure there are some infiltrators here.

[Link: www.washtimes.com...]

Did anyone see this article on O'Connor saying the US Supreme Court will begin to rely more heavily on international law rather than just the US Constitution?

Good lord. Can justices be impeached?

Peter S

Enemy infiltrators in the Dhimmicrat party, you mean?

Dr. Dean thinks he's Dr. Crane?

I'll bet ONE MILLION DOLLARS that #142 is an infiltrator.

From snopes' link

On the whole, the U.S. judicial system leaves a favorable impression around the world, she said "but when it comes to the impression created by the treatment of foreign and international law and the United States court, the jury is still out."

What the hell does that even mean? She's 73, it's possible that senile dementia is setting in.

On the other hand, I know Zell Miller's been mentioned before, but this is heartening:

"I think President Bush is the right man in the right place at the right time. I see some Churchill in the man," Mr. Miller said. "Down South, we'd call it 'he's got a little grit in his craw.' I like that very much."

I like that very much too. ~singin~ ... 'what this world needs is a few more rednecks... '

PeterS... if you have ONE MILLION DOLLARS, you need to be spreading the wealth, my brother. That's not socialism, cuz you're only spreading it to me.

(I don't actually have a million dollars, that's just a saying I picked up in the Army).

In normal parlance it works a bit like this:

"The Jack Kirby Silver Surfer is waaay cooler than the Mobius version. Everyone knows that"

"Mobius is better!"

"Mobius was a hack."

"was not..."

"How much you want to bet?

"ONE MILLION DOLLARS!"

(PS: The Jack Kirby version really is the superior comic.)

Dean is misinformed about the true meaning of the term "meterosexual". It is not "a man in touch with his feminine side". It refers to a narcissistic dandy of any or indeterminate sexual orientation who is in love with himself, his gym, his clothes, his grooming products, his condo, his favourite cafe, and any other conveniences of modern urban life.

Yup, that's Howard Dean alright!

Check out Wordspy [Link: www.wordspy.com...]

#150 Peter S

Wow... it's like you're speaking a whole different language. I can understand the letters, and read the words, but they just don't make any sense to me.

All I really understood was that you lied about having ONE MILLION DOLLARS, which leads me to conclude that I don't like you anymore.

So, the democratic front-runner is a guy who 1.) supports massive tax increases to pay for DMV-style health care 2.) thinks the Germans and French should have veto authority over American security interests and now 3.) wants to identify with shallow, materialistic, effeminate narcissists who probably think premium hair care products should be subsidized so the poor can look fabulous.

Gee, who says the dems are out of touch with mainstream America?

Dear Lucia,

I am flawed and hard to love.

3.) wants to identify with shallow, materialistic, effeminate narcissists who probably think premium hair care products should be subsidized so the poor can look fabulous.

To me, that is one of the funniest things I've seen today. Viking the Kitten, you are brilliant.

#154 Peter S

Yes, your lack of ONE MILLION DOLLARS is a huge flaw in your character. You need to look into rectifying that.

Thanks LFMB aka S, since I'm not the best thinker on the board, I at least try to make people laugh once in a while.

I'm an octagon myself. Which side do you want to see today?

VTK -

I'd love to see a parody of QEFASG, just in time for Halloween...

Dead Eye for a Live Guy

Five guys like in one of those Elvira beer commercials...

With catty remarks about too much sunlight...not enough cobwebs...suggestions to install hot & cold running chills, a dead plant here, a guillotine there...etc etc...

Frank IBC

Full disclosure. I've never actually seen QEFTSG. I've also never seen "Boy Meets Boy" or "Queer Ass Folk" or even "Will & Grace."

"Metrosexual"; a guy who gets his goodies from a transvestite named Galaxia in the backseat of a Geo Metro.

wasnt David Beckham the original "metrosexual"?

[Metrosexual] refers to a narcissistic dandy of any or indeterminate sexual orientation who is in love with himself, his gym, his clothes, his grooming products, his condo, his favourite cafe, and any other conveniences of modern urban life.

I agree with the part of the definition that I've bolded, above. But ''metrosexual'' was coined to refer specifically to straight men who embrace a type of ''go ahead and pamper yourself!'' consumerism that certain gay men have (bafflingly) worn as a badge of proud self-identity for years and years. And, likewise, the metrosexual meme encourages straight guys to be unembarrassed about their willingness to spend $15 on a bottle of salon shampoo with Vitamin E & Sheep Placenta when a $1.50 bottle of Suave will do the job just as well (since as we all should have learned from 3-2-1 Contact, hair is just dead cells). So the ''narcissistic dandy'' part of the definition isn't apt, either -- ''metrosexual'' purports to be a positive label.

I don't get it, myself -- it seems to me that feminists went to a great deal of trouble to combat the notion that accomplishment, for a woman, meant being good at Home Ec and having up-to-date footwear. So why do so many 'mos accept it as flattering when "Queer Eye" basically sends the message: Society should accept gay men because they have such marvelous taste in clothes?

famous Metrosexuals in history:

Kim Jong Ill
Gen. Custer
Gen. Pickett
King Edward II (son of longshanks)
That guy from the rock group Queen
David Bowie
Elton John
Liberace
Siegfried & Roy
Narsissus ( from the Greek )
Nero ( from the Roman)
Barbra Streisand ( from the Diva)
Eppie Calvin La Rouche (From the Duram Bulls)
Louis the XIV (from the Frog)

... can't think of any more but im sure their out there.
Feel free to add to the list.

VTK, Throbert:

Actually, I've never watched any of those either, with the exception of QAF.

And there isn't a "product" in sight in my bathroom. I used to use Neutrogena shampoo, until I found that the Suave knockoff of that brand works just as well, for about 1/3 the price.

So revoke my credentials, already. :)

Hugulu you are a macho neanderthal putz and all the grooming products in the world won't cover it up.

"Sexual highlight reel"? Good grief. Spare us.

Thank you for your comments, Throbert, but I will stick with the definition I reported from Wordspy. Perhaps the term was originally intended as a positive description, but depending on one's point of view, it can be derogatory or just plain laughable. And any man who spends $15 on shampoo is by definition a dandy and a narcissist. I have no idea what H. Dean thinks it means, but it strikes me as rather silly of him to even mention it.

Consider the term "liberal", which conservatives apply as a derogatory description of pols they doen't like. In many other countries the term "liberal" is considered neutral or, among supporters, positive. In my country, Canada, the governing Liberal Party certainly doesn't shy from the term. So it all depends on your point of view.

Its a god-damn JOKE.

J-O-K-E.

Lucia Flavia Mensia Bovinata (aka Stormi) (#149)

That's not socialism, cuz you're only spreading it to me.

LOL!

P.S. If he comes through with the million dollars, marry him! You'll learn to love him.

Or....

Put the "Fundament" in "Fundamentalist"

Better than putting the "mental" into "Fundamentalist"

#25 Q: Surely you've taken the Gore/Unabomber quiz?

#32 Roger L. Simon:

--only we used to call it a "fop."

Back in the '70s, before the word "gay" was co-opted by agenda driven groups, the local fop shop in what is now the national hippy preserve was known as the "Gay Blade," a phrase that was synonymous with "fop."

#60 Anant: Like J.D. says in #61, go with the nuts. The R side of the aisle has more flavors...

#153 Spunky MG:

3.) wants to identify with shallow, materialistic, effeminate narcissists who probably think premium hair care products should be subsidized so the poor can look fabulous.

Wasn't that already tried after the Rodney King riots in South Central? $50 stipend for grooming...and self esteem. Truth is strange.

#168

You are right, it is a joke. The Dimmocrappic party, that is...

#144 Snopes

Did anyone see this article on O'Connor saying the US Supreme Court will begin to rely more heavily on international law rather than just the US Constitution?

So they're having difficulties with the meaning of the word "Supreme," I suppose. Guess we'll just throw out the Bill of Rights to be more in line with other states.

Wasn't that one of the reasons President Bush didn't support our involvement in the ICC? No due process and such?

#144 snopes:

Good lord. Can justices be impeached?

Yes, but IIRC, its only happened once.

Frank IBC #170 - ROTFLMAO

BREAKING NEWS:

ALL 9 DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES FOR THE PRESIDENCY HAVE DROPPED OUT OF THE RACE UPON HEARING OF THE NEW GDP NUMBERS.

Edwards says - "Hey, there's some REAL money to be made now in the private sector! I'm outta here!"

Lieberman says: "Cheney had the right idea. I hope Haliburton is hiring!"

Kucinich says: "Why does God hate me? I mean - The Power of the Universe. Sorry about that God thing to all my fans."

Carol M. Brown says: "I'm glad the race is over. I was just wasting my time here, but at least I got on TV for a few months!"

John F. Kerry asks: "You think Congress will pass a bill so that we can get our expenses repaid? My wife won't give me my allowance if I'm not running."

Al Sharpton says: "Yo Mamma! Who's going to pay attention to me now? I hope that. . . "

(His words could not be made out after this, due to his chomping on a cheeseburger.)

Dick Gephardt asks: "Can I get my old job as Democrat Leader in Congress back, at least?"

Howard Dean says: "We can't afford a strong economy. That means we'll stay in Iraq and . . "

(All reporters left the room, so no one is sure what Dean had to say after his initial words.)

General Wesley Clark screams out: "ATTENTION!"

(No one paid attention to him again.)

Bill Clinton in disguise was photographed reading a Playboy magazine while waiting for the 2008 race for President. Hillary forgave him this indiscretion as she mulled her upcoming 2008 candidacy.

This reporter is mulling over a change in careers. Jason Blair has been offered my job by the NY SLIMES.

It would be funny if the two Clintons ran against each other.

Watch "debate" turn into "argument".

#169 zulubaby

(And PeterS, wherever he may be)

I don't know why I'd want to put myself through that again.

Unless, Petie, you do pony up with the million smackers. Then I could at least learn to love spending your money... what do you say? :o)

Stormi, you've been married?

Yes ma'am I have been. Not an overly traumatic experience, but the divorce took longer then the marriage actually lasted.

Some things are just bad ideas from the get-go that look like good ideas at the time. That'd be one of those things.

Stormi, that's too bad. Next time it will be with the man you are meant to be with :-)

We certainly don't need a "metrosexual" as POTUS if he's going to be holding up air traffic while getting a $200 dollar haricut or spending hours at a spa instead of taking care of our country's business. I'll take GWB's brash cowboyishness any day.

My guess is Dean wanted to sounds hip, but then realized that the label also made him sound like he wasn't serious enough to run the country, thus the "square" remark.

I think Clinton and Kerry are both good examples of metrosexuality. Ugh!

We certainly don't need a "metrosexual" as POTUS if he's going to be holding up air traffic while getting a $200 dollar haircut

Howard Dean doesn't have enough hair that they could charge him that much.

HAYSEUS CHRISTO--c'mon y'all the whole thing is a marketing cliche and a joke--y'know like gen x'ers or dinks [double income no kids] can't we all get along in this rabid dog coalition--ZULUBABY--i can't get to the bar anymore --too many spa and plastic surgery appointments--only drinking juice now while i bathe in my avacado hot tub--to which--incidentally--you are invited if i may be so foward without requesting permission from the dean of students to ask you out--no improper touching allowed--only proper touching

#134packsoldier

I dont think anyone thinks there's something wrong with "football, cheeseburgers, cigarettes, and old blue jeans?" and "manliness in this country"

the so-called metrosexuals don't. look, because I buy expensive shampoo,I all of sudden have a label? I agree its all just a marketing ploy. 100% bullshit. but its enough to scare the crap out of middle america..

Oh, let me count the epithets...."half-woman," "Nancy-boy," "pantywaist," "pussies," "wuss," "puffters," "puss-boy," "candy-ass," etc., etc.

I don't know what's stupider, Dean's pandering to the newest trendy "demographic," or the compulsive need to mock men who don't live up to some high-school football locker room standard of masculinity, as demonstrated by all the chest-thumping and grunting of "Me big strong man!" on this thread.

Allah, RightIsRight, Queasy, etc., are you sure you all don't want to step out into the alley, whip it out, and compare 'em? It would at least give you the chance to make sure you still had 'em, a fact of which you all sound rather insecure.

K., #20: I used to beat up metrosexuals in middle school

Nice, K. I had a good friend in high school who didn't come out of the closet until after graduation because people like you think that shit is funny.

midas mulligan, #65: According to the Economist, David Beckham is also a metrosexual, which they define as someone who "shaves their back, sack and crack"...yuck

Here's a hint, Midas: Women don't appreciate funky odors and hair caught in teeth any more than men do. Give at least the second one a try sometime; you might be surprised at how much more oral attention you get.

HULUGU, you're bathing in avocado? Sounds, um, delicious. LOL. I'm disappointed that you can't get to the bar anymore because, you know, I thought we could dance on the bar. But I wouldn't want to interfere with the plastic surgery.

Ha, and Ted Kennedy is a Masshole.

He doesn't know what 'metrosexual' means?

What if it's someone who can only become aroused riding the subway? Wuldn't it behoove a presidential candidate to inform himself on such matters?

#188 Reginleif the Valkyrie
perfectly said. but i'm afraid it falls on deaf ears.

I never understood why people that support a 'realist' foreign policy have narrow ideas on liberty at home..

I guess the Libertarians really confuse the hell out of these people

When the "Metrosexual" meme hits Afghanistan, now THAT will be something!

Maybe I'll invest in a mini-mall with a yoga clinic and tanning salon in Qandahar...

#194

You'd be humming one posh tune!

Yep,

#118 RtV is a Puff. Hitting a little close to home, eh Nancy?

Why am I getting a visual of Chester the Molester riding the subway?

#188

Bite me!

Hope you don't mind the hair between your teeth...

Midas, #198: #188

Bite me!

Hope you don't mind the hair between your teeth...

Thanks, Midas. You've proven the point I was indirectly making about the overall level of maturity in this comment thread.

I forgot to mention in my last post that, in my experience, a man who calls another man a "half-woman" or feminine names like "Nancy" typically doesn't have much regard for women, or at least not when they "step out of their place."

Lady Thatcher, to put it in terms that some of you trogs can understand, was "more of a man" than most of you. If only because she never felt she needed to prove it to the world.

Give me a quiet, sports-hating, affectionate and witty computer geek over a chest-pounding, letter-wearing jocktard any day. Enjoy the locker room, fellas. I don't think I'll stick around to hear the inevitable "witty" remarks like "She must be a feminist lesbian man-hater or something!"