God help us all.

Bring it on...

{Sigh}

#2 dc

I'd share those sentiments if they were going after our military. Sadly, they prefer women, kids, office workers...

Well, this doesn't look good at all. If something does happen tomorrow, who takes the blame?

It's beginning to look a lot like Ramadam...Everywhere you go.

Followers of Allan need to update their syntax. O Bush?

Should a major attack happen let us all take careful note of those places, people and states that take to the streets to cheer the attack and those who take to the streets to condem it.

Let that finally decide for us who are our enemies and our friends.. and let us act accordingly

If something DOES happen, it will be just another nail in the coffin of Islam.

www.faithfreedom.org Islam is the Matrix. We hand out red pills.

Is this legitimate, or is it a bunch of punks trying to rile people up?

Have they really become so bold as to advertise plans like that, and be secure in the knowledge that we're so stupid, bumbling, or lethargic that we won't catch them or don't care anymore?

What scares me most about this is that there will not so easily be a place to attack back--as there ws with Taliban ruled Afghanistan. Let's hope this is just some kids on a website playing games. (But don't go ner the water--tomorrow does look like much of a beach day anyway).

Seriously, has anyone in LA, DC or New York noticed muslim co-workers or neighbors behaving oddly, packing, or leaving?

Hippies, Islamofascists, nazis, communists, socialists, any collectivist faith, allah (I don't buy that crap that leftists, even those who claim they are atheist, don't worship this guy, YOU DO you sacks of shit) help you.

#4

I don't mean to sound trite but unfortunately to the islamoanimals every civilized man, woman and child IS a front line soldier.

I say, let them do their very worst. If tomorrow is d-day then Tuesday will be the beginning of the end of islam.

#11 Roger L. Simon

What scares me most about this is that there will not so easily be a place to attack back--as there ws with Taliban ruled Afghanistan.

Syria, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon (Hizb'Allah), Palestinian Authority, Pakistan... There are a lot of places to retaliate. The question is, can we invade another country? If the attack is carried out by Laskar-e-Taiba, a Pakistan-backed group, can/will we attack Pakistan?

Frankly, I think this is all bluster. Remember, the point of terrorists is to create terror, and that is what they are trying to do with this. Al Qaeda is most likely not in a position ot pull something big off at the moment, at least not in the US. They have supporters, but not enough infrastructure. Plus, we have captured some of their top guys. So I am thinking that they are just bluffing. I mean, all they have to do is pull off a small attack somewhere else, and then say they succeeded, as the warnings were just meant to confuse.

# Mr. E. Train

...let us all take careful note of those places and states that take to the streets to cheer the attack...

Didn't seem to make much of a difference last time. You know that whatever happens will be blamed on Israel and the Jews anyway. In fact, earlier this week, there was heated discussion on a thread after someone posted what he thought was a credible article stating that Israel was beind 9/11.

We dwell in a world of fantasy and delusion where "truth" has become irrelevant.

dc

We are too PC to end Islam should they hit us again.

Islam means Peace and the animals that will create havic in the name of Allah are not true Muslims.

/CAIR

Fuck these mother fuckers. I am so ready for a fight.

dc, Islam will die soon, one way or the other. Let's just hope not too many human beings have to die with it.

www.faithfreedom.org Islam is the Matrix. We hand out red pills.

scaramouche

If the Jooos are not behind 9/11, then they most certainly have set up a front with Al Qaeda and used mini-nukes in Bali.

There are also traces of Mossad workings in Baghdad following the Israeli revenge attack againt the UN and the Red Cross.

Get your shit straight.

#21 bigel

I think they were translated by Northeast Intelligence Network.

#6 Best Comment of the day! May I continue?

Take a look at the Muslim sites

And all these new Muslim rites

With car bombs and with vest bombs all aglow!

It's beginning to look a lot like Ramadan

Slodeydopes attack!

While the rest of the Muslims seethe

And we who just wanna breathe

Gotta watch our back!

Happy Ramadan everyone!

SF Conservative

Youa re either a Jooo or you have been paid off by the Zionists.

Confess!

Which is it?

i suppose the major aim of terrorism is to well...
cause terror... :) russian roulette. Lots of threats and you never know which is going to be the live one.
Someone expends zero finances/energy posting a message and bingo! Half the US and other coutries
divert their £/$'s into security. Very effective in that respect. (sorry if off topic.. just thinking aloud)

#17 scaramouche

On 9-11 we were all so confused, unsure. Small fringe of radicals? Islam means peace? really? let me look that up.

well now we are all pretty much read up on Islam, what it teaches, what its followers say and do, its history, what the stated goales of its followers are.. ect.

Now we are all looking for this sort of thing. This very web sight is a testiment to that.

The country is now divided between two camps, the pro-war on terror and the LLL. If the attacks should happen then the LLL will loose much political capitol and the War On Terror will get a stamp of approval for another 4 years.

I can only pray that the next nation we invade is Saudi.. set the slaves free!!!

#20 AG The Angry Texan

Sorry. What was I thinking? Must have been brainwashed by my recent close re-reading of The Protocols (as everyone knows, an utterly foolproof blueprint for domination of the Solar System).

Why the servers of these islamonazi pages are not burning, together with the square mile around it ?
We are not leading a war against them, we are joking.

scaramouche

DOn't let it happen again.

You must toe the line.

If this were serious, wouldn't the feds go into full CYA mode with warnings, terror alerts, etc? We haven't heard anything of the sort here in New York.

Neither Texan. But a conservtive in these parts does end up a little crazy.

But Lively's got me inspired. I'm thinkin a whole CD's worth of Ramadan carols...

Ra Ma Dan!
Ra Ma Dan!
Rama all the way
Gotta go make jihad
Cause dat's what Iman say...

OT...tonight on C-Span Booknotes at 8 pm Eastern: Rich Lowery and his book, Legacy.

And check out who's on next week...time to stock up on barf bags. As for me, I think I'll clean the bathroom or throw the scary things out from the fridge instead. It will be much more pleasant, dude.

If something tragic happens, will the gloves come off - volumes of classified intel released to the public... including the infamous 28 pages?

Or do the appeasement monkeys hide in the fetal position under the table and tell us again that islam = peace?

Please, those that know more, have some cajones next time: bring the truth out and hell down on those responsible...

There have been quite a few previous terror warnings, but this is the first that really gives me the chills.

Maybe some islamonuts watched this programme from the BBC and are now trying to induce a mega-tsunami.

[Link: www.bbc.co.uk...]

... maybe not

It could be just Jihadi bluster --except most of this is appearing on Arabic sites --(first) and not the usual Jihadi blogs and sites. They are picking it up but since many of the traditional "Jihadi" terrorist websites are down at the moment --they have been forced to use Yahoo, MSN groups to reprint the messages in English.

Indeed part of the strategy is to just terrorize and threaten. My impression is this is more serious although they do often purposely give a false date and location --to mislead. They have done that before other attacks.

I think the concern this time is infrastructure --power supplies, damms, even computer networks etc.

#34 Alex F

There have been quite a few previous terror warnings, but this is the first that really gives me the chills.

Ditto.

Seeing as the defense of this country depends on G-d - and not the whim of an attacker like Al Qaeda - BRING IT ON!

These jihadis must masochistically enjoy the sight of islamic reigmes being overthrown by America, with how they're continuing on this terrorist line.

#26 Mr. E. Train

I fear I'm more cynical than you. I see LGF as a still small voice of reason in a largely insane and unhinged world.

God Bless America.

This one bothers me too.

Remember that al-queda killed that opposition leader in Afganistan just a few days before 9/11. Sort of a dress rehearsal. Perhaps that's what the SA bombing was all about.

I truly hope I'm wrong and just being overly paranoid.

#41 Donna V.

I'm annoyed.
You're annoyed.
Together we're a paranoid.

There have been quite a few previous terror warnings, but this is the first that really gives me the chills.

That might be because this is the firs time it hasn't been a totally vague threat. This time there are specific cities being threatened, and not just the ambiguous/ubiquitous "bridges". But hey, I could be wrong. It wouldn't be the 3rd time.

I'm inclined to believe that Qaida is full of shit. The slightly more conspiratorial side of me won't discount the possibility that our own spooks might be behind these threats, although I'm not sure why they would do that. But the main indicator for me is that the threat level hasn't been raised. Our gov, for what ever reason, has decided it is not worth the expenditure to raise the security profile of the nation, even though they are seeing these threats, and a lot more. What else do they know? On the other hand, it wouldn't be the first time our inept corrupt FBI fucked us with their criminal malpractice.

Damn!...I picked the wrong week to quit smoking... with the lunar eclipses, bombs in Fraudi Arabia, North East Terror Alerts...Fuck it...I'm gonna get a good nights sleep.

BRING IT ON...Let's Roll...America Forever!!!

OT: The Nicoderm CQ patches do seem to help, but beware the side effects.

To the tune of "Santa Claus is Coming to Town"

You better watch out
You better stay home
Better take arms I'm telling you why
Ramadan is coming, this month

They're making their plans
Their videos too
Gonna kill all the dhimmis and Jews
Ramadan is coming, this month

They'll kill you when your sleeping,
They'll kill you when you work,
They'll kill you shop or eat
So beware for goodness sake...

damn--"they'll kill you when you shop or eat."

Obviously I hope I'm right, but my inclination is to dismiss this as a bluff. 9/11 came as a real surprise to me; I don't remember all these proclamations of impending terror before then.

By the way, those Ramadan carols are the funniest thing I've ever read!

Heck we have the Peterson trial pre-lim and the Kobe and Shaq feud goin on. Plus super market strike and no buses or commuter trains due to mechanics strike
And Now this...L.A. has this huge port and a jillion containers plus LAX has cargo planes goin' in and out with less scrutiny than a passenger would get.
I wonder if the various agencies can speak to each other on the radio. E.g, So Cal had fires last week and the various agencies had different frequencies apparently so co-ordination was slowed. That story is just coming out so we don't know the scoop. But they couldn't talk to each other.

#47 piano gal

9/11 came as a real surprise to me; I don't remember all these proclamations of impending terror before then.

Maybe because no one was paying attention much less looking for them until after we were attacked. I know I wasn't really paying attention then.

Our gov, for what ever reason, has decided it is not worth the expenditure to raise the security profile of the nation, even though they are seeing these threats, and a lot more. What else do they know? On the other hand, it wouldn't be the first time our inept corrupt FBI fucked us with their criminal malpractice.

Yep. This has been building for weeks, even before the warnings for muslims to evacuate the coasts, and what has the response been? Around the campfire here at Internet Haganah we make the following analogy: In Israel, for every 10 attempted terrorist attacks, 9 are prevented. In the United States, for every attempted terrorist attack, none are prevented (they're just not attempted so often).

At this point the alert level should be red and every sea worthy vessel and able-bodied sailor should be scouring every last inch of our coastline, and I don't mean just the Coast Guard and the Navy. Hell, give me a zodiac, an AK and a thousand rounds and turn me loose in the East River! If it turns out to be a false alarm, it's good practice for the next time. If it's for real, maybe, just maybe, we can prevent it.

But G-d forbid the government should do or say anything that would raise public concern, let alone encourage public involvement in defending the homeland.

The most recent series of warnings have repeatedly mentioned water and other implications of some kind of martitime target.
Even a fairly small boat can carry enough explosives to sink a large ship, and Coast Guard and police harbor patrols are typically not heavily enough armed to stop these in the short time available. (Sea-going CG cutters are another story altogether.)
That DC is mentioned as a target does not mitigate against this, since the city has a Navy yard and quite a bit of boat traffic on the Potomac.
We are still vulnerable to this kind of attack. Since AQ sacrificed a top terrorist weapon, the aircraft hijacking, on 9-11; they have to resort to other means for their next mass attack.
The capacity and availability of boats might well provide the methodology. What the specific target might be is anyone's guess.

#49

You have a point there Alex.
But I just wonder, would they be so blatant about it if they were really planning something for tomorrow?

#52 Iron Fist

Yo, Islamonazi motherfuckers. Ya do what ya feel ya have to.
I trust we'll do the same.

I'm less optimistic than you are.

I still haven't figured out the motive for blowing up a bunch of Muslim Arabs, many of them children, in the Saudi entity yesterday. Supposedly four western homes out of 200 in the complex. They'd do better blowing up the Riyadh McDonalds.

Any theories?

[Groans and throws virtual tomato at scaramouche:-)]

Seriously, one reason why I think this might be real is because it would make sense for al-queda to wait until our economy is on the rebound from 9/11 (as it is now) and then strike again. Make the ecomony take a tailspin, and give the Dems, who have been bitching about our huge loss of liberties under Der Kommissar Ashcroft, the opportunity to scream about the lack of civil defense.

I think it's just to get us all worried. I refuse to play that game. I haven't noticed any of the local Muslims moving out. Of course, as I've said before, if the guy around the corner suddenly closes up his little convenience store, I'll let you know.

Where are these warnings or threats coming from? Do we know? Can't we fire 72 cruise missiles into their locations--one for each virgin awaiting these Muslim martyrs? Why are we sitting and fretting? What good is being a superpower if you don't use most of the power?
Curtis Lemay, come home--now IS the time for you.

Likely a disinfo. The window's closed for now. The probable next date: 11/23.
Probable location: SA, again.

well, I'm 55-60 mi from Port of Los Angeles, so I'll still be around after a shipping-container-nuke goes off.
I was going to go to the range this afternoon, but I think I'll just hang on to the ammo for a bit...

Was going to say 'ah, an attack on Veteran's Day, must be in the name of the American Mercenaries', but between commemorated date, observed date, & calendar conversions - screw it, who wants pie?

Tired of hearing / reading the LLLoony Imams preach their hatred in and out of this country. Have to find a way to shut them down / kick them out.

Ed 55- because al Qaeda still sees the Saudis as in our back pocket. Any cooperation they give us (and they've started to give some- admitteddly little) shows that they are heretics and must be destroyed. Make life miserable in Saudi, chase business out, undermine the governent so Osama or his heir can become the next caliph.
(Note: no defense intended of the Saudi royals. )
One more- if it is to hard to attack the West (I'm an optimist, I'd like to believe US has prevented attacks in past 2 years, just not announced such success) then you hit where you can.
Maybe I'm just whistling to the apocalypse.

buck up--its terrorism remember--if you're afraid before the fact,they win--any cybernut can publish warnings-- its the price of an hour at the internet cafe in peshawar--gov't warning level the same--i assume they monitor this stuff--besides the jets have just tied the game

#55 Ed Moran:Abu Dr. Flatulus Maximus Presbyterious

"I still haven't figured out the motive for blowing up a bunch of Muslim Arabs, many of them children"

In the eyes of AQ, they are as infidel as any other. Idol worshipers. If there was a righteous amongst them, Allah will sort'em out. Cute, eh? No need to bother with such concepts as conscience.

AQ needs another base of operation. Afghanistan is lost for all practical purposes. They want to get rid of Saud house through instability.

There is also an irrational aspect in their ideology that has nothing to do with reason. Hence some of their actions may seem insane (they are).

You've heard the Ramadan carols, now buy the cards.

Wouldn't you just love to know what kinds of messages are being sent with these cards?

Wonder if any of the animated ones show explosions?

jets win--allahu nakba!!

"Peace on Ramadan" Yeah right. Like last night in Riyadh
"WARM Ramadan wishes" (10,000 degrees in Teheran?)
Can someone translate Ramadan mubarak? (Die infidel?)
#63 you hit nail on the head. They're irrational.

#55, Ed Moran. On the first of todays posts I mentioned that some of the news reports said that the compound blasted was known as B2. B2 was the name of the old US army Corps of Engineers compound and was located on a road at the bottom of Wadi Hanifa. The remains shown on TV today look a lot like that compound to me and my wife. The Corps moved out of that compound in the late 80s. It was owned by a senior member of the royal family. I suppose that the explosion could have been at that location for any number of reasons including the perpetrators not knowing who the current occupants were.

The West is thoroughly polluted with [bigoted word] jihadis who will kill at al-Qaeda's orders. The unholy koran is taken as divine ordinance by these savages, and it orders them: "terror-war (jihad) is prescribed to you." Murder, rape and plunder are not crimes to Muslims; they are sacraments. The following link, which is apparently too deep for GWB's alcohol sotted mind to penetrate, is to a translation of the second most "holy" book to the muslim enemy:

[Link: www.usc.edu...]

How can a muslim be required to accept terror-war duty, yet live in moderation in the civilized world? They can't and they should be sent to the Arabian desert, to live with pigs like themselves.

The following link is to a profile of bin Laden's mentor and al-Azhar hate indoctrinate, Sheik Azzam:

[Link: www.islam.org.au...]

If the choice is to kill, or to be killed, I think that its time that we started killing muslims.

Updated prediction: 19 days remain in the period in which I predicted that there would be a My Lai type incident in Fallujah, Iraq. For those who think that it is morbid to even think that way, check out this book:

[Link: dogbert.abebooks.com...] (especially "Conditions for a Guilt Free Massacre", by Troy Duster. Duster's warnings should be treated as a textbook for modern counter-terror warriors. No soldier will obey for any lengthy period, an order that places same in mortal jeopardy. Trapped animal syndrome strikes, and they kill discriminately.)

The poetry of pre-WW2 Western values:

[Link: www.google.com...]

I've often told all my friends the reason we have this cumbersome electoral process is so someone like me doesn't get elected president. If I were my foreign policy would be one of generous magnaminity until the first American died as a result of a terrorist act, then the culture responsible would pay dearly and only once. My first response would be the only one required.

So, AlQ attacks their Fraudi sugardaddies on Ramadan, using what appears to be obsolete information, and managed to kill a mere 10-20 people (at recent count), all Arabs.

al-Qaeda has jumped the shark. This "Tora, Tora, Tora" bs sounds like kids trying to be funny.

The Northeast Intel Net site is scary. Are they like an Erie, PA Debka?

Iron Fist #52 - nice picture. FYI, if anyone read the article accompanying Mr. Fist's picture, FAS is about a dozen years out of date (typical). Peacekeeper Rail Garrison was canceled early 90's; Peacekeepers were deployed to silos and are currently scheduled to be deactivated by 2003 or so in accordance with the W. Bush / Putin "Moscow Treaty" (sorry, Iron Fist; consolation - we probably kept the warheads).
[Link: www.af.mil...]

Keep thinking W88 (475 kt) happy sunshine thoughts!

#72 Bourgeois Reactionary

Don't worry, we still have the subs - 192 warheads each. You can bet that there are at least two within range of the ME at all times.

This nonsense sounds like Louis Farakhan without his medications. And like Farakhan pretends to have a religion, these muslim slime pretend to have an army. Welcome to modern Islam, a pretend religion, set in a pretend civilization. Unfortunately for the rest of the world, which wishes to go about its business, even morons can be successful muderers.

Sura 55: 50 is some shit about water in the High Heaven flowing freely Two springs are in them, flowing

Maybe they are going to put something in the drinking water - or the idiots think they can blow up a dam.

Bali was one year and one day after 9/11

Thursday is one year and one day after Bali

@68 gymnast

I was wondering about where the attack ocurred myself.
It could be, they did have bad info and bombed the wrong location, or thought Americans still were using it.
As BH so aptly posted, I too think they jumped the shark, screwed the pooch and just generally f**ked up.
I hope 'daddy' takes the covette away and closed their bank account.
What would be really nice is to see a little civil war. Maybe this will force the Saud's to really clean up their back yard.

Uh-oh--

*They rely on Allah* or similar is, I believe, some kind of code phrase with them. Something like the cry of the Japanese Kamikazi, as I recall. In other words, it's like the alert phrase of the Moslem Kamikazi, I think, but I could be wrong.

Isn't tomorrow, Monday, Veteran's Day?

It would be /particularly/ galling for those fuckers to attack on Veteran's Day. Talk about adding insult to injury.

#67 Iron Fist

I've seen first-hand how a mere 10 years of constant propaganda can change a people. The Israel of Operation Peace in Galilea was not the Israel of the Yom Kippur war. The Israel of Oslo was not the Israel of Peace in Galilea. And let's not talk about Wye River.

I do not think that Americans are immune to brain-washing. The constant pro-Islamic hammering of the U.S. media is scaring me.

#77 quark 2 ect. I used to get out to B2 quite a bit. Do you know the geography of Ryadh?

2000 Quatloos says there are no terrorist attacks on US soil this Ramadan

Engineer #73 - right, but we won't use them. BTW, the W88 nuclear warhead is for sub-launched missiles.

Al Qaeda knew who lived in the compound. They are targeting the Saudi economy (and thereby the USA economy). The Saudi's oil industry depends on expatriate workers. Crippling the oil topples the kingdom.

"The wounded are from 19 nationalities: 53 from Lebanon, 17 from Egypt, four Americans with dual citizenship from other Arab nations; and six Canadians, five of whom are originally citizens of Arab countries... Other casualties were from Saudi Arabia, Sudan, Eritrea, Jordan, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Ethiopia, the Philippines, Syria, the Palestinian territories, Pakistan, Turkey, Sri Lanka and Romania."
[Link: www.cnn.com...]

This "all Muslims get out of the cities" thing is getting a little boring. First of all, why warn them to get out? So they could miss an opportunity at martyrdom?

Looks to me like the Northeast Intelligence Network is looking for a little web traffic, that's all. All these associated warnings smack of adolescence to me.

Kyle

#82 Dar ul Harbarian:

Just 2000? Let's make it worthwhile. 10,000 Quatloos that something will happen.

The purpose of terrorism is not to kill, but to "terrorize." So that the terrorists can spout threats and so forth, and then disrupt our ordinary lives.

I work in midtown Manhattan, in a likely target building, for a likely target corporation.

Tomorrow, I am going to work and going about my normal business. That's the most effective response to terrorists and their provocations.

These threats may be a tactic to sound out our defense procedures. IOW there may be Al Quaeda sleepers out watching what we do under the circumstances.

Just an ugly thought.

#79 chuckg

Tuesday, Nov. 11 is Veterans Day.

Whats a "quatloo"?

I just went over to that website and took a look at this. It looks pretty serious to me.

What are these coded numbers like 50, etc? Could these be area codes or zip codes-- somebody, take a look at these possibilities. If they do have cells here, they would be somehow laid out in some kind of grid that is connected to geography. Thus, zip or area codes would be the first possibilities to look into.

Are they supposedly trying to bring something in on a container to a port? I believe the port authorities would have dogs and radiation detecters, etc. I'm sure the guys are ready for them.

Someone asked what significance the date would have. Well, it's Krystal Night and it may also be The Hunter's Moon.

#89 Ed Moran

One quarter of a dolloo.

Debka reports Binjamin Netanyahu will visit Washington, DC tomorrow.

I suspect the FBI/Homeland Security aren't too concerned, if they had any info, from a CYA standpoint, it would be far better for the next terrorist attack in the US to happen during a more elevated state than yellow.

Would anyone put it past the Saudis to blow up a compound of foreigners to promote the notion that they, too are on AQ's hit list? If AQ really wanted to strike a blow at the royal family, aren't there more direct targets than this symbolic strike at foreign workers? Now they can proclaim that, like America, they are targets of terrorism, not sponsors. My guess is that this was misdirection for the purpose of shaking US scrutiny of their terrorist sponsorship.

@81 gymnast

I've not been to that part of the ME, but had many an associate who worked over there...and hated it.
I was just suspicious of the attack, if it was the right location.
If they are attempting to affect Saudi's economy, they better remember which side of their toast is buttered on. Taking down that economy means their funds will be affected too. But since they are so insane, it probably doesn't matter to them ...right now.

This is fun:

Take the strange number 988888 in the report's encoded message

988 was the year Muslims led by al-Mansur destroyed Leon (Spain)

888 (-912) was the year 'Abd Allah ruled Muslim Spain

[Link: www.san.beck.org...]

Is infidel Spain the target?

Regarding containers, to get D.C. the nuke would have to be on a pleasure craft, not an unrealistic conjecture.

There are plenty around that could make an Atlantic crossing and blend into the US traffic.

#96 Iron Fist

I hope you're right, and that there is still one country on Earth that is not totally insane yet. I really hope so.

OT

Will Charles, Prince of Wales be the next Queen of England?

#72 Bourgeois Reactionary 11/9/2003 05:09PM PST
... FAS is about a dozen years out of date (typical). Peacekeeper Rail Garrison was canceled early 90's; Peacekeepers were deployed to silos and are currently scheduled to be deactivated by 2003 or so in accordance with the W. Bush / Putin "Moscow Treaty" ...

A MIRV is a MIRV is a MIRV, and we have plenty of them still.

#89 Ed Moran:Abu Dr. Flatulus Maximus Presbyterious 11/9/2003 05:55PM PST
Whats a "quatloo"?

Ask a Star Trek geek. (and laughing at John Clark's answer)

Foobar (#90)

If they do have cells here, they would be somehow laid out in some kind of grid that is connected to geography.

If they have cells here? Do you believe that al Qaeda doesn't have terrorist cells here?

Good thing Al Qaeda isn't targetting Central Texas power plants.

#89 Ed Moran

Did you ever see the episode of Star Trek where the knock-out slave babe in the silver bikini fell in love with Kirk? The three brains that ran the planet bet on gladiator fights among the slaves. Their currency was the Quatloo.

#85

I see your 10,000 and raise you 5,000 Quatloos.

#102 That's priceless. As others have said, you can't make this shit up. But this quote: The fishing had reportedly continued for a year without action.

A year? I'd have moved to a better spot, if it was getting no action. Or switched bait.

#75
Two Springs, huh? Like the Tigris and Euphrates?

Sounds like something big planned for Iraq.

I wouldn't mind at all of the SA Economy got destroyed. The US could finally use electric cars. I don't drive all that fast anyways.

#104 Dar ul Harbarian:

Only 5,000? Ha! I'll see that and raise you another 10,000!

OT

Do NOT miss Allah's latest post. Hilarious.

allahpundit.com

Rayra #100 - "A MIRV is a MIRV is a MIRV, and we have plenty of them still."

No, there are several types of MIRVs / warheads; yes, we do have plenty. We won't use them.
However, my post was focused not on re-entry vehicles but on the specific delivery system (Peacekeeper) and basing system (Rail Garrison) described at FAS. I worked on that stuff and it gripes me to see bad info.

Spread the love, Iron Fist!
W will win the Heart of Dixie easily.

INRE #101, zulubaby:

We have no easy way of ascertaining that the folks who transmitted this message are legit or poseurs.

The purpose of terrorism is to terrorize. We don't know if they are really from the Qaeda gang or if Bin Ladin is alive and really directing them. Charles, for example, believes obl is defunct. And we really don't have hard or persuasive evidence that obl is in fact alive right now.

In dealing with intelligence there is a conditional aspect to it. And, in time, we expect it to be modified.

I expect there are some kinds of sleeper cells here, but I don't know if this group sending the message is triggering these sleepers like with a secret dog whistle or whether is just a big show to terrorize people.

So far, from what I've seen of it, it looks pretty serious, but even if they are ambitious, they still may not be able to pull it off, whatever they're planning. They'd like to destroy this country, but they cannot and will not accomplish that.

The Nazis called their Twelve-Year Empire the Thousand-Year Reich. And then they were swept into the Dustbin of History. These folks will end up in there, too.

The message gives me the creeps too, but since when have AlQ given warnings to fellow Muslims?

Re: #76 Barry Crocker 11/9/2003 05:22PM PST

>Bali was one year and one day after 9/11
>Thursday is one year and one day after Bali

Math seems a bit off...

foobar #111 - "obl is defunct"

'E's not pinin'! 'E's passed on! This parrot is no more! He has ceased to be! 'E's expired and gone to meet 'is maker! 'E's a stiff! Bereft of life, 'e rests in peace! If you hadn't nailed 'im to the perch 'e'd be pushing up the daisies! 'Is metabolic processes are now 'istory! 'E's off the twig! 'E's kicked the bucket, 'e's shuffled off 'is mortal coil, run down the curtain and joined the bleedin' choir invisibile!! THIS IS AN EX-PARROT!!

Say-- water ,water, water etc goal posts...sounds like the Golden Gate Bridge to me. I hope the Davis administration is guarding it still...Probably could never be rebuilt; major disruption to Calif.

#114, You got it!! LOL!

Warnings like this are the taunts of children. Actions like those threatened, however, are signs that we have not yet killed enough of these fools.

It is distressing that we obviously will need to take another hit before we can start the job for real, but that seems to be what it will take.

Hi all, forgive me, I haven't read through all the comments.

I just got off the phone with a girlfriend and we got into a shouting match over this whole business. Mostly that she told me that Al-Qaeda had "us" (American military) on "the run" (we are all over the world and not able to protect our country) and a terrorist attack on American soil was only just a matter of time. When I argued that it has been TWO WHOLE YEARS since a terrorist attack on American soil, she said that was "their plan". They are taking their time. So I told her that we have cut off their funding, their lines of communication and they can only attack in "local" areas, ie., anywhere in the ME. I told her that WE have THEM on the run, not the other way around. The arguement degenerated into a "Yeah? Says who??" type of thing. I would appreciate links and comments from anyone that can help me make her see the g-ddammed light!

Or am I wrong?

This was mentioned this in another thread, but over in everyone's favorite Yahoo jihadi message board, Daleel_Al-Mojahid_, the picture was changed from OBL and a scubadiver to OBL and a full moon. A "go" message?

Check it out.

And there are a ton of files there that are freakily named: "build" and "making bombs" and "deffrent kinds of bombs"

#59 ördög:ipse dixit

The window's closed for now. The probable next date: 11/23.

I don't understand, why is the window now closed and why is that the next probably date?

Barry Crocker 11/9/2003 05:22PM PST

Bali was one year and one day after 9/11

Thursday is one year and one day after Bali

Barry's making my point.
WTC 9/11
Bali 10/12
??? 11/13

That's what I'm thinking. They've milked all the media coverage on the Riyadh bombing by Thursday.

I don't know whether these are serious. I tend to doubt it. But I know for sure that warnings like those on the Yahoo group would not go out in English.

#114 Bourgeois Reactionary

'E's joined the jihad invisible ;-)

#110 Bourgeois Reactionary 11/9/2003 06:56PM PST

Rayra #100 - "A MIRV is a MIRV is a MIRV, and we have plenty of them still."

No, there are several types of MIRVs / warheads; yes, we do have plenty. We won't use them.

My only comment was that Peacekeeper MX or no, we still have plenty of other MIRV-capable systems, land and submarine -based.
And yup, until there is literally a global Islamic jihad, waged by Islamic nation-states instead of their terror-cell proxies, MIRVs won't fly.

#120, your math is STILL off - the progression you are stating is 'one year, one month, and one day'.
(ooh, and we're right back to sura 9:111)

to all non muslims i welcome you to learn about the scince in islam.
any logical human being will discover that the book of (Quran) cant be
written by any one other than god him self. when you discover this
truth you will be shocked!.

god is great...in everything...(why dont you see how the sky was
bult up with-out something to hold it up !)

It's called atmosphere. I didn't need two semesters of climatology to figure out how the sky isn't held up.

bic, #118:

You don't need any information or links to decide who's winning this war ... just take a step back and think about what's happening now.

I went on a boat ride today, had some beers, and am surfing the net and watching some sports on TV before going to my very fun and secure job tomorrow morning. My life has only changed for the better since 9/11 -- basically it's kept the same positive trajectory throughout this whole crisis, and most of my sacrifices are of my own choosing.

Now, how many people in terrorist organizations can say the same thing? You think Saddam could do what I did today? You think OBL's going to the movies tonight? How're things working out for Arafish in his compound-jail? Let Al-Qaida launch another big attack on the US, and it's goodbye Syria, so you know these terror monkeys are getting pressure from all sides now. Talk to anyone who lived through WWII, and you'll know that THOSE Americans were at war, from the front lines to the heartland, and it wasn't so clear we'd win; today, we haven't even started fighting, and if we decide to get really brutal and crush this annoyance, this war could be over tomorrow.

We've done the ignore-appease strategy already ... how do you think we got to 9/11 in the first place?

There's another warning to Muslims to leave the USA on the Yahoo! Group that was found last week...

bic, re #118:

Dump 'er.

Too much noise, not enough signal.

And now for a little something from Al Gore.
Gore: Bush Has Failed to Make U.S. Safer

Sounds like something more out of Nostradamus than the Koran. The more evil they get, the more hokey they get.

This disturbing article was in the Baltimore Sun.
Officials at a Jewish girls middle school in Mount Washington told parents last week that the FBI is investigating a Middle Eastern couple who were spotted videotaping the Smith Avenue campus and pupils.Shlomo Spetner, president of Bais Yaakov School for Girls, wrote to parents on Oct. 31 that a parent had spotted a car with a man and woman who appeared to be Middle Eastern.

The parent reported to the school's principal and police that the pair videotaped the entrance to the school and the girls as they were leaving the building.

When the parent approached them, according to the letter and a police report, they fled.

The parent reported the license plate number of the car, and Baltimore County Police, and members of the FBI's terrorism task force have questioned the driver and are in contact with him, Spetner said.

The man is a Saudi national who is a student at a local college, Spetner said. According to a police report, he lives in the Fallstaff neighborhood of Northwest Baltimore...

#118--bic--get a new girlfriend

bic (#118)

Tell her to prove her point to you.

As I said in a previous thread, the USA doesn't need "moderate Muslims". It needs "LIBERAL Muslims". "Liberal" meaning in the traditional sense.

A "moderate Muslim" is simply a radical Muslim who knows how to shut up when it is politically expedient to do so.

I include the Anthrax mailings, the hit on the LAX El Al counter, and the Beltway Sniper* under the category of "Islamic Terror" in America. So in my opinion, it hasn't been "absolutely nothing" since 9/11, but still no MAJOR attacks.

*(The Washington Post has been giving excellent coverage of the trial of John Allen Muhammad. In particular, they point out that witnesses saw the white man in a white man clapped-out blue Caprice at virtually every site where a shooting occurred. The incompetence of Chief Moose and the FBI makes me wanna hurl.)

#126 djspicerack -

Er, what's the problem there? I think they should leave, too. :)

#118 Bic -

When she says "they have us on the run", tell her "you appear to be gloating. Why do you think this is a good thing?"

Uggh. "white man in a white man" should have been "white man in a white VAN".

Ok since Osuma and Saddam and all the bad guys are about to wack us again lets have a laugh..this is quite funny...hope you haven't seen it.

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Re my #134 -

The first two paragraphs were a cross-post. :(

#120 jabba the nutt

WTC 9/11

Bali 10/12

??? 11/13

A quick Google search also shows that on 8/10/2000 the terrorist group Hezb-ul Mujahedeen killed at least 12 people and wounded more than 2 dozen others with a car bomb following the cancellation of a cease fire.

CNN.com's coverage of this attack

The aim of Hezb-ul Mujahedeen is the "liberation" of Kashmir from India and its unification with Pakistan. Hezb-ul Mujahedeen is part of the United Jihad Council and is allied with al-Qaida.

Jane's on the UJC

Here is a new message dated Mon, 10 Nov 2003 07:41:04 -0000 from the Yahoo message board I mention above. Right now, it's 12:38am in Los Angeles, I wonder where it is that he is at least 8 hours ahead...

alaah akbaar

the mojahideen had struck the heart of a compound housing arab non-muslims working for the CIA! the hit was a another slap on bush's face and more slaps are coming to you face bush.

this hit is not the hit that we issued a warning about this is a hit to start cleaning up the dirty black stain of the CIA in the kinkdom.

ofcourse you will here the saudi TV issue all kinds of false statments of who was killed in the attack...i wonder why armitage is in saudi arabia meeting up with the crown prince!! tell your american people who was there armitage!!

alaah akbaar alaah akbaar and what is coming is greater.

alaah akbaaar
daleel_almojahid

Sorry to go OT

But "Winds of change" has some very good insights on the ryadh bombings.

Exerpt:

"In the aftermath of the Riyadh bombings, US intelligence came to the sobering conclusion that the Saudi police, army, navy, and National Guard have all been infiltrated by Bin Laden's minions. This point was driven home even further by the fact that the explosives used in the Riyadh bombings came from the Saudi National Guard stockpiles."

Bic, I'm with the others--Get a new girlfriend whose intelligence is at a higher level than this belligerent bimbo!

141 Alex F

So, that what they call it nowdays:

"... in the kinkdom."

Interesting freudian slip.

hrm to be technical, THE full moon was Saturday night. It's now waning.

Wait wait, i know... the big thing was the eclipse. Allah took the moon down to show us his power. Yeah. ok that makes sense.

no no.. even BETTER! Check this out.. you all know about the concordance.. well, the moon was at the center of that, and six planets, including Chiron, lined up in a Star of David with the moon in the center. Take that, Allah! Our god writes his name in the sky! (well, i'm not Christian, but for the sake of argument, i'll say "our")

#145 squib

Missed that, ye'r rights. That is, it is an interesting configuration. Without that harmonic ascension fluff, of course.

The irony, though... it looks like AQ shot themseves into foot and the heavens did make clear who is the boss. :-)

Um...has anyone thought of playing a Cat Stevens album backwards?

er.. two corrections... the earth was in the center (causing the eclipse... duh, squib) and i'm not judeo-christian.

But the whole "Ascension of the Mother Earth" thingay was a bit too much for even my heathen sensibilities. No one alive now will ever see it again, i don't think. The last one was in 1852, if i remember right.

why America is losing the intelligence war

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149 motti

this article reads like wishful thinking..

#131 - good posting...

#134 - just pointing out the "warning" as being yet another reminder, coinciding with this stuff Charles posted.

What sets these messages apart from the usual "Jihadi" wanna be's rant and rave is that they are appearing first on Arabic forums.

Forums connected and linked to --known "Al Qaeda" websites which are not easily found because they relocate and redirect constantly. Yet one of these forums, formed in June, 2003 has over 7000 members with only a handful who post.

They are only being reprinted in English on they Yahoo board.

It may well be just part of the "terrorism" strategy to continue threatening. However, it is also true that this is how the "terrorists" are informed of upcoming plans. Haganah internet continues to keep taking the sites down for violations of TOS despite the fact that they will resurface. Because even a few days or weeks down is good.

The authorities can intercept and trace phone calls.

# 117 vanderleun:

Warnings like this are the taunts of children.

I was thinking something similar regarding the UN and Muslims. Muslims and the UN pretend play grown-up. They believe they can convince anyone of their truths with tantrums and seething. The reason they hate the US and Israel is that these are true grown-up countries, which makes them feel small and humiliated. Not to mention that the US and Israel are more accepting of truths, good or bad, than any childlike member of the UN or the Arab League. The fact that the US, as an adult country, does not take shit from child-like countries, and will actually punish them, makes them feeler even smaller and even more humiliated, if that's possible. Plus, there is the sad truth that the US will actually tell off these little chldren countries, taking an adult moral position. Any child hates to have an adult tell them "NO!" or what to do when they want to play at something else, like being grown-up.

#141

...the mojahideen had struck the heart of a compound housing arab non-muslims working for the CIA!

Pretty sneaky of us to arrange for all those non-Muslims to be in their houses celebrating Ramadan, then!

Well, New York State has been advised to be on alert to a maritime threat Nov. 9-11, a threat for which the Homeland Security department considered raising the threat level, see here.

And the administration has warned before of "9/11 style" attacks without raising the threat level. It seems apparent that they're afraid of crying wolf and will not give a serious warning unless they're virtually certain something will happen.

There is much talk about what we will/should do if we are hit again...nuke 'em, turn the ME to glass, many others...
Do you know what WILL happen if we are hit again?
Absolutely nothing...we wont bomb anyone, we wont nuke anyone, we wont retaliate by blowing anyone off the face of the earth...and we wont start throwing Muslims out of the country...we wont do a DAMN thing...nothing...
The enemy is in our country now, building Mosques, indoctrinating children, running for office and winning, lobbying for more "rights' as they are religiously oppressed. They are using their ROP as a weapon to disarm us...they know we value religion and will NOT take steps to limit it...so, they use that very thing against us...we wont limit their religion, so they bastardize our rules to fit their needs and wants...their desire to kill all of us and bring down out country.
They know what they are doing, and our leader know what they are doing...they just wont do anything about it so as not to appear "insensitive" to their needs...BULLSHIT...
The govt has backed us into a corner and if we are attacked we will NOT do anything...we respect life and liberty and the enemy does not...
The only way to win a fight is to fight it to win ,...and we will never do that...its not PC to protect yourselves at the expense of the attacker...we cant destroy them, they have rights...we cant nuke them, that is against our ideals...
When will our Govt wake up and realize that the Muslims only wish is to destroy us, we have given them the means to do this...our very laws...so, what will happen when the next attack happens...the same thing that happened last time...we'll wander off on some other supposed threat and let the gulty ones go free...Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Syria, the Palestinians, ...and so will it ever be...
Dont get excited about what we're going to do...we wont do anything...we will wait for the NEXT one to do anything...and then what...nothing...
OUr defense is up to us...they are in our neighborhoods, you know who they are and the businesses they own...do you support them? Yes...
We are sitting ducks, and they have their sights trained on us...we're not going to do anything...we are afraid of offending someone...

Well, looks like the "threat" message is bogus. I don't know who "translated" this or where it found, but it appears to be a hoax.

We're mid-way through Monday, no bombings, no alerts, nothing, here in the U.S. Bah... a lot of noise over nothing, simply more scare tactics.

our answer should be--oh [bigoted word]s we are at defcon 1,if anything goes

I still think 11/13 is the day.

#78 foobar - "I rely on Allah" is what that EgyptAir pilot repeated while crashing his airliner.

#159, I concur with you. patterns, patterns, all around.

Even if it is false, they're obviously doing their job - because people are talking about it and are concerned. They could never bomb one more thing and as long as there's a presence felt it'd work.

Haha, you conservative right-wing nut jobs.

The threat of terrorism is so open-ended that it offers Republicans a grand opportunity "to use fear as a political tool to consolidate its power and to escape any accountability for its use." — Al Gore quoted in The Washington Post

We're about halfway through Monday, and so far so good. Maybe the system and everyone was operating well and stopped whatever these jihadis were planning.

We are currently living in a weird kind of 24-hr. around-the-clock news cycle. I am trying to learn the GMT or universal time system, but I am finding it rather difficult. The time in Baghdad and Afghanistan is about 8 hrs ahead of us. Because of the time differences and the date differences that go with them, it makes orienting within a time context a bit difficult.

If nothing untoward happens, it may not be because these jihadis didn't try. They may have tried, but were prevented by everyone being alert and blocking them.

# 162 eric:

I guess in your rose-colored world terrorism is just a figment of conservatices minds? The WTC still stands, and I can have dinner tonight at Windows on the World? What a jackass you are, not being able to see the forest (terrorism) for the trees (far left liberal idiology).

foobar,

GMT is easy. The best way to learn it is to set your wrist watch to GMT. Every time you look at it you will be forced to translate.

Once you get that down you can work the rest of your clocks.

The big advantage comes during daylight savings changes. No need to change your clocks. You just change your mind.

The latest message from the above mentioned Yahoo message group references this article by Jay Reynolds :

AND THIS IS OUR MESSEGE FROM THE MOJAHIDEEN TO JAYRENOLDS AND ALL THE PIGS OF HIS SORT,

you think you have information thats not public !!

by the well of god and the hands of the mojahideen the coming hit wont be stopable at all.

you think years of well planing will be stoppable!!! you still dont know the mojahideen. and i will keep reminding you that you still dont know the mojahideen..but you will see thier light and hear there loud bang very very soon when everything becomes black smoke.!!

alaah akbaaar and the power to god him self and no one else...

daleel_almojahid

Seems to me they want us to believe its a nuke.

The thing that sticks out most to me is that he can't even spell his diety's name correctly.

#149,

Here is my answer:

America does not have to defeat radical Islam. It just has to outlast it. The intelligence failures do mean more attacks but so far they are of limited consequence.

Ask yourself this question: are people from Islamic countries trying to get to America or are they trying to leave it? That determines the outcome if America can last.

The asymmetry is extreme. The jihad's have to win. America only has to last.

I'm betting on America. Despite intelligence failures. - Think of Kim Philby, the Walkers etc. Despite superior Soviet intelligence where are the Soviets today? What did them in? American economic power and American culture.

Our advantages are still the same.

M. Simon

#162 Eric -- Another brainless quote from the wimp Al Gore. Anyone quoting Al Gore and expecting credibility is shooting themselves in both feet.

Al would have surrenedered us already to Islam if he had been elected.

#166, all - has anyone tried to join the group yet? It looks like it's open membership... I'd be curious to do so, just for S&G.

Aright, nothing blew up today!

Personally, I think the Islamist jihadi pig-dogs really dont have their act together. Together enough to blow up kids in Saudi Arabia maybe. It takes time and money to pull these stunts in America.

Maybe they'll pull something later this week...someone mentioned the 9-11, the 10-12 Bali bombing, and ergo 11-13...
That's giving these idiots a lot of credit though.

I have a feeling terrorist attacks have been stopped in the U.S. but we aren't being told about it, ala that "Threat Matrix" show.

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#172
I believe the same and to some degree it is a shame that Bush's honor and patriotism prevent him from announcing these successes.

#95 Joe that would be i keeping with the would be jihadi from Wood Green earlier this year that convinced to make jihad against Spain for the occupation of Spain by Spain..

holy crap, 11/13 is the 2nd anniversary of the fall of Kabul.

#113 Joshin

Math seems a bit off

Oops, I meant "one year, one month and one day" in both cases.

I need to get my head and my typing fingers wired together.

Stupid brain.