Fuck these mother fuckers. They can shove their seething right up their asses and the fucking UN resolutions.

I just knew they were going to bring up The Satanic Verses.

Uh oh, watch out, the muslims are feeling humiliated again...

...and the 72 virgins are wearing bib overalls!

The publisher should accomodate them by replacing the image with one of those showing Mohammed in Hell.

...and not a single boob in heaven!

OT - HELP!

I need to find the website that watches the press for ... err.. um.. how shall we say it.. err... one sided reporting.

SOMEONE HELP!

Email enquiries@amberbooks.co.uk or call 0207 520 7600 to express your support for their author's freedom of speech, and condemn this blatant attempt at censorship by people who aren't even their customers.

Pick up a copy and forward your Amazon.com receipt email to them, to demonstrate that you are a customer and these whiners are not. (UK Amazon customers)

Bender - honestreporting.com is a good place to start.

I wonder if those are Mohammed's Jewish wives.

Bender #7: I assume you're looking for Honest Reporting (the link is also available on the right hand side of this page).

#6 RDNZL

Except for those of the 72 virgins. (One thing that confuses me. Does every martyr get their own set of virgins. Must be, because once they've been used, they're no longer fresh. In that case, how did Paradise get to be so stinking with virgins? Are these woman who have passed on after an earthly existence, or do they exist solely in Heaven. So many questions...)

You're humiliated? Awww. Poor little Arab. Hey, BTW I saw your sister naked.

Can you imagine what these people would do if Hollywood released a movie called "Last Temptation of Allah", and flooded the ME market with free copies of it?

Of course Hollywood would never have the audacity to release a movie that would be so blasphemous to someone's God. They're more sensitive than that, right?

Maybe they should make Mohammed a cutesy cartoon character that says something witty at the opening of each chapter. Or he could hold up his finger with a piece of string on it for key points to remember. Better yet, make him a "clippy" like figure in a CDROM version of the book.

The Cult doesn't like Kool Aide.

Thanks guys - I JUST COULDNT FIND IT ;) Im writing a bunch of file outputs for a new client, and I just cant parce english right now ;)

In a classic wahabbist obscurantist move they're proving they don't even know the history of their own art. Tehre are LOTS of pictures of Muhammad in Persian, Indian, and Turkish art. LOTS. Sometimes (far from always) the face is obscured (either with a literal veil or with a veil of flame or light). Nevertheless, the idea that the image of the prophet is especially prohibited is really just not true.

Here's a nice one of Muhammad flying to heaven on the back of a mythological animal.

Sad -- ignorance about even their own culture.

Dar ul Harbarian-actually Clippy, that wizard looking guy, the dog when you do a search in Windows XP-all are built on the same set of APIs from Microsoft. So someone sufficiently motivated to create the artwork could easily do that.

If one were to just throw elephant dung or soak that likeness of Mo (piss be upon him) in urine, our taxes would support it's nationwide museum tour.

I have a fish called Muhammad.

Sorry didn't work. Enter "miraj" into the search bar and it'll turn up.

Not that I dignify the seething in any way, but what IS Muhamad supposed to be standing in front of? The figures seem to be of some weirdly anachronistic roccoco-type female drawings. I'm sure the Prophet isn't at an art gallery in Medina. What the heck is supposed to be going on?

#21, James

I have a fish called Muhammad.

I have one called Yasir. It's a goldfish with bulging eyes. He'll die soon probably.

scaramouche 11/10/2003 05:56PM PST

#6 RDNZL

Except for those of the 72 virgins. (One thing that confuses me. Does every martyr get their own set of virgins. Must be, because once they've been used, they're no longer fresh. In that case, how did Paradise get to be so stinking with virgins? Are these woman who have passed on after an earthly existence, or do they exist solely in Heaven. So many questions...)

Apparently, these virgins are to be specifically created for the purpose. I remember reading that they perpetually remain virgins, don't eat. digest, or defecate, and have diaphanous skin to prove it. I'm not sure what they plan to do about internal organs, blood, bones, etc. These things might become an issue due to transparency of the skin. I suppose brave shahids are not to be deterred from their purpose by a mere sight of blood or body parts.

Piss be upon em.

So we should all swipe that pic and post it on our blogs/websites with a link to the book? That'd make the freaks happy, wouldn't it?

Update:Dar ul Harbarian, the technology is called Microsoft Agent. What a horrible thing too.

Well, we did have a similar situation with AG Ashcroft, without the ranting and raving, of course - but...

Justice Department covers partially nude statues

#20, you took the words right of of my keyboard.

RoPMA

ofergodsake, do they ever stop whining? Everything is such a big deal!

James (#21)

LOL! Do you really?

This is very odd.

I have an old book, published in the UK, entitled "the Popes of Rome". It was printed in the late 1800's, and is falling apart.

Inexplicably, one of the first few pages has this same image, as a full colour engraving, entitled "Mahomet".

I could scan it in full colour, once I dig it up, if anyone's interested, since it seems to be sending the humilation/seethe meter off the chart.

What does it all mean?

Beats me. The Elders are thinking circles around me most of the time . . .

What's that strange feeling...like an itch in the unreachable areas of the bum, except-in my head...inspiration?
Maybe someone should do a whole series of these characters (Arafish, Osama, Saddam, Mohammed, Allah, Ask-an-Imam, etc), with appropriate moronic things to say?
Actually there's a text-to-speech engine available too, so they could literally say things.
Where's Iron Fist? I need a good demonic cackle here :-)

This picture is possibly the most disgusting insult against our prophet since 'The Satanic Verses' was published.

I beg to differ. This picture is.

And the Hindus are pissed, too!

#33 zb

I sure do. We couldn't think of a name and then *flash* I had an inspiration.

#25 Julio Jurenito

You've just described a shahid's ideal woman: virgin; not real; doesn't eat; doesn't defecate; doesn't say no.

Don't know about the transparent skin, though. If I got to Paradise and discovered I had 72 see-through virgins, I might be more than a little pissed off.

Jeez. Big mo couldn't get enough poon and they're mad.

#28

I went to the web page and tried out the program.

Try Out Microsoft Agent

It made Internet Explorer lock up.

LOL

God, I hate microsoft.

James (#38)

I love it.

They're "regenerating" virgins. I'm serious, according to the tale, their virginity regenerates each time. Men are given supernatural virility to deal with them all each night.

Some hadiths include "28 fresh boys" to this equation.

Hah, the wankers think this is bad?? If they want some genuine blasphemy about Profit Mohammed, they should check out these Dutch guys:

[Link: www.faithfreedom.org...]

#36 Give me Mo', hammad!, funny, but you should change the file extension to jpg from txt and relink, everyone else isn't going to bother doing that or know how to like I did.

No need to worry:

The Media Committee of the MCB has been contacted by Amber Books following objections to the portrait of the Prophet Muhammad, peace be on him, in 'The History of Punishment' by Lewis Lyons. The company's representatives have said that the portrait was unwittingly reproduced, without the realisation that it would cause offence. Negotiations are currently underway to resolve the matter - Amber will be placing a statement on its website. Further information will be made available shortly.

This is from the satisfied customers website.

...and now I have this little green bird frozen in mid-flap over all my applications. He wont go away no matter what I do.

Time for a Mac? Linux? A good book?

HELP

the following anti israel screed appeared in my student newspaper and i think it is very important to respond to this kind of garbage and not leave it unchallenged... i tried to write a response but dont know where to begin and how to write a letter like that...

can anybody help out in crafting a response that the newspaper would actualy print...one that i could actualy submit

here is the article

Once again history repeats. This time it is in the form of a concrete apartheid wall spanning across Israel.

Israel is building a wall along the Palestinian-Israeli 1967 border, along the cities of Qalqiliya, Tulkarem, Jenin, Jerusalem and Bethlehem.

The wall is currently in construction and is estimated to be at least three times as long and twice as high as the Berlin Wall. It is a sad retreat on behalf of Israel.

Israel is claiming to be building the wall for security purposes. It is an attempt for Israel to stop terrorist activity from occurring in Jewish settlements and predominantly Jewish populated cities.

Thus far, the wall has proven to be an inconvenience for the Palestinian people-to say the least.

When completed, the wall will isolate close to 95,000 Palestinians in the West Bank in addition to 200,000 in East Jerusalem. The wall will create a supposed safe haven for Israeli citizens, but will take away the basic human rights of many Palestinians.

Ten percent of the West Bank will be confiscated in order to build the wall. This includes land Palestinians rely on for cultivating crops.

The confiscated areas also include water sources. These water networks are important sources for agricultural purposes, and are the only water sources for some villages. The wall may make water sources difficult for people to reach or destroy them all together.

More than 16 villages will be trapped inside the wall making travel difficult. A simple commute to school will now take children hours because of a wall surrounding their village.

Since many Palestinians travel from smaller villages to bigger cities for work, the restriction of movement will force many to lose their jobs.

The most appalling aspect of the entire project is that the majority of the members in the United Nations are against the construction of the apartheid wall. But because of the United States and Israeli veto, the building of the wall is well on its way.

The building of the apartheid wall is a way for Israel to ignore the true roots of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, giving the Israeli people a false sense of security. Not only is the idea of a wall separating the two groups absurd, but it will undoubtedly lead to more violence.

If basic human rights are taken away from any group of people, in this case the Palestinians, it is only logical that the outcome will be an uprising against those who are suppressing them. Food, shelter and water are necessities that every human should be guaranteed; yet the building of this "security" wall is taking away these rights and many more.

The key to solving the Palestinian-Israeli conflict does not lie in a wall separating each side from one another. In fact, it is near impossible for the two sides to avoid contact with one another.

If this wall is a way for the Israelis to find security within their own borders, then what actions are being taken to secure the security of the Palestinian people?

The Israelis will have complete control over who will pass from city to city, and watch towers will be set up with Israeli military watching over the cities. The Israeli government will once again trample upon the freedom of the Palestinians.

The violence is coming from both sides, and will not cease unless there are constant, mediated negotiations between the two groups. Perhaps the first step prior to negotiations is new leadership for the Palestinians and Israelis. Both sides have proven to be incompetent in peace-making efforts over the years.

Instead of relying on a wall to solve over 50 years of dispute, Israel should realize that the problems on the other side will not disappear without stepping over the wall and settling matters like adults

You know, if Muslims would show even a modicum of respect to other religions they wouldn't have so many people positively rejoicing when Muhammad is insulted. The hypocricy is staggering.

#43 Andyzero

They have "regenerating" virgins on Earth, too, only it requires the services of a Plastic Surgeon. (Seriously, I saw a TV report on physicians who specialize in restoring hymens to Muslim and other brides can pass muster on their wedding nights.)

Mohammed was a filthy pervert who married 12 women after probably murdering his wife, Khadija, who was 15 years his senior. He committed at least one rape, of a Jewish woman, coerced a nephew to abandon his wife to satisfy his fake "prophet" lust, and gave Abu Bakr khalifa power in exchange for his 6 year old daughter. The wild animal who founded the muslim murder-plunder cult consummated the marriage with his child bride when she was 9.

Muslims are pigs, descended from a long line of pigs. These lawless scum have no business lecturing civilized peoples on morality.

MUSLIMS: MAY YAHWAH PISS DOWN YOUR THROATS, BEFORE SATAN HAS HIS TURN.

#41 Dar ul Harbarian-lol! Bastards. Works for me. Are you on an older machine?
James-'twould be an excellent dog name, hmm? :-)

5 Ways to humiliate Arab Muslims

1. Show them that the non-oil GPD of all Arab States approximates Finland (get to work you 5 million Finns, the 300+million Arabs are gaining!)

2. Explain to them how the zero came from India, not from Arabs.

3. Show them the list of wars against non-Arab States won by Arab states in the last 100 years (remember to bring blank sheet of paper).

4. Race highest speed Western manufactured automobile against fastest mode of transportation created in Arab States (may have to provide camel). Suggest one-mile race. Provide 1/2 mile headstart.

5. Topple another Muslim Arab regime with both hands tied behind our back.

actually it looks like gallery quality (historicly speaking and minus the subject manor) these idiots seething kinda reminds me of my grandma if she aint bitching she aint happy

To Muslims it is very important never to make any pictorial representations of the prophet Muhammad

So don't make them. I will if I want to. I'll drink beer and eat pork rinds if I want to. Don't like it? Get the fuck out of my chronosphere and back to yours. You know, the one that couldn't hope to reach Renaissance levels of advancement.

As for lecherous womanizer, there's more to your religion than conquering the Infidels MPAC. Might want to read up a little on your favorite warlord.

Should I not make it to take a stroll down the streets of gold, I'm gonna find me this sumbitch and kick him square in the nuts. Hope he's not running the place, but it'll be worth it.

#52 evariste

I'm getting a new puppy soon, but I'll be damned if I name it Osama (or Yasser, or Mohammed).

I was thinking of something like "Webster" in homage to the hours I spend on the Internet.

I am now finding I have an almost perverse delight in their seething from taking offense because they are so entertaining when they defend it, rationalize and justify.

Earlier I was checking out the YMUK forum (young Muslims UK) and there was a post about a bomb scare at a Mosque and the authorities brought in dogs apparently after some discussion by the Muslims whether they were "allowed" to do it.

Other than the expected --"there was no bomb, it was just an excuse for them to bring the dogs in an offend Muslims" --there was little discussion on the "bomb" and considerable discussion on whether or not it was right to have allowed the dogs into their sacred place.

Yes, most felt it was horribly offensive and disrepsectful to Muslims for them to have used dogs. I think there was only one person who pointed out that if there had actually been a bomb --it was a huge facility and it could not have been found in time without them. But that logic didn't dissuade them from thinking it was an insult that was offensive.

Norwegian kafir, great stuff!
I guess I'm buying Monolith Deathcult's Apotheosis, their first cd. Good thing it's only 12 bucks. They take paypal, too!

There's just so much wrong with this whole spectacle that all I can do is just sit here and shake my head.

"Get back to your own chronosphere" indeed. Do these people have NO sense of respect for other people's cultures?!

I for one am sick of being told that whitey is the insensitive one.

Is it me, but does the Prophet of Allah look like Basil Rathbone?

moshe (#48):

I actually 100% agree with this:

Israel should realize that the problems on the other side will not disappear without stepping over the wall and settling matters like adults.

Once and for all.

Nancy, I suppose they would have preferred that pigs be used? They have superior sniffers after all...

That's the Prophet ? By all that's good and holy, he's one ugly mf. Is the Arafish related?

evariste, glad you liked it. I just discovered these guys myself. Those of you who didn't check out my link: You really should. If you hate Islam, this is candy:

[Link: www.faithfreedom.org...]

I have a fish called Muhammad.

About 30 years ago, the producers of Hawai'i 5-0 got some flack because in one episode, there was a family with a DOG named "Muhammad". Luckily that was in the days before Muslim Seething and Whining® had reached its current frenzied level.

Hmmm, Muhammad the Chihuahua...alongside Fatima the Shi-Tzu in her darling little doggie-burka...

THONK! Oops, the little princess just ran into the coffee table leg again. :(

Hmmm...he looks kinda Jewish, doesn't he?

#62 evariste --LOL --that had crossed my mind. Britian probably doesn't have sniffer pigs yet!

The illogic goes beyond exasperating after a point and becomes --like "Kitsch" (correct spelling??) art --entertaining.

#65 Frank IBC

As well as a pitbull named Hanan, a poodle named Saddam, and a ferret named Bashir.

This illustration is particularly offensive because it shows the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) surrounded by naked women, thereby characterising him as a lecherous womanizer.

On a similar note, I took offense at my kindergarten teacher, because she said 2+2=4.

MPAC apologises {heavy breathing} for having to show this blasphemous picture. However we feel it is {heavy breathing} important that Muslims are aware {heavy breathing}, so insh'Allah {heavy breathing} we can {heavy breathing} put a stop to this...{groan, sigh}

#57 Nancy
Do Muslims ever keep dogs as pets?

Also, does anyone know if women are allowed to go inside mosques? I remember seeing that question asked a few months ago here, but I didn't see the answer.

They should just tell MPAC that those women are not Muslims, just muhammad's sex slaves.

Well, if I was a muslim, I'd be insulted too.

Those chicks in the background are waaay to old for old mo (piss shower upon him). mo, it seems, did not like girls old enough to have breasts.

I wonder how many of the muslim council of Britain actually have JOBS?

Seethe seethe seethe, whine whine whine. Threaten threaten threaten.

Islam really is a curse upon mankind.

Frank IBC (#70)

LOL! That'll get you a fatwa.

#71 Doss

Also, does anyone know if women are allowed to go inside mosques? I remember seeing that question asked a few months ago here, but I didn't see the answer.

Yes, I asked that and I didn't get an answer

Could they maybe change the picture to show him in a hot tub necking with a couple of farm animals dressed up in lingerie and in the background there could be some drunk red necks with baseball bats chasing a militant Egyptian mullah around while Howard Dean tries to get their vote?

Would that be less offensive?

#71 & #75

IIRC mosques are like public toilets. Different rooms for men and women.

Anyone remember the movie The Message (a.k.a. Mohammed: The Messenger of God)? It starred Anothony Quinn and Michael Ansara ( Barbara Eden's -"I Dream of Jeannie" husband). They made the whole movie and not once filmed either Mohammed or rather, the actor who played him, or any of the other central figures of Islam such as Ali.

#76 Emery Calame

Maybe Mohammed is a metrosexual.

I suppose I could google this, but what does "(pbuh)" mean, puhleeze?

#59 Brian Tiemann 11/10/2003 06:31PM PST

Do these people have NO sense of respect for other people's cultures?!

So it appears. True (ig)noble savages.

I'm curious, where in the Koran does it says "And thou shall seethe and whine and threaten from the cradle to the grave."

#80

peace be upon him

Queasy, pbuh means Pigshit Be Upon Him. Seriously, it means Peace Be Upon Him, and is supposed to be uttered every time somebody mentions the Profit.

Hooters Ad...PhotoShop opportunity, folks!

Or you could take one of those nude protests, with the protestors at his feet, spelling PBUH...

#71 & #75:

Further to my last post :

According to Ask-an-Imam there's usually a curtain between the male and female areas. Menstruating women are not allowed to enter the mosque.

Mr. Muslim, can you tell me just how long you have been having this Self-Esteem problem?

Norwegian kafir: remember, one of the glories of Islam is that it does not permit idolatry.
/sarcasm

To speak of blaspheming Mohammed makes as much sense as to speak of blaspheming Arnold Ziffle.

About women in mosques: what I was able to find is that the exclusion of women is a matter of local custom. In some places women and men use the mosque at different times. The following summary is from an online encyclopedia, I can't vouch for its accuracy:

"Women are not prevented by neither [sic] the Koran nor the Sunna to enter mosques, but there are regulations on how a woman in a mosque shall behave. Mosques can be segregated, either in time, or in space. But through most of Muslim history, women entering mosques have not been welcomed by men. Mosques have in many cases been closed to women, either regulated by local rules or by habit. Women have therefore resorted to pray in their homes."

@5 Robert Crawford

Accordingly: Dante's Inferno. Which portrays Muhamet in the center of hell. I can't think of a better representation. We all know that's where he's been residing since he died.

OT, but still dealing with the Jewhaters in the UK:

Britain AGAIN is trying to stop shechitah -- kosher slaughter...

Maybe they will stop bar mitzvahs next? Ban Yarmulkes? Bris?

I guess Melanie Philips is not neurotic after all...

[Link: www.jta.org...]

Or have him hoisting a mug on "The Man Show"

Ashwadu la illah bumchugaluga oy oy

Okay...now I know what PBUH means. How about Ffgggmmm? Anybody?

To Muslim Whiners,

The propensity for members of your religion to become psychotic, frothing madmen is very offensive. Your constant attacks against innocent men women and children the world over is especially to hurtful to anyone resembling a conscience. Your total disregard and animosity to anyone who would raise a voice against you is also offensive anywhere in a free society, soemthing which you also abhor. Based on these grounds, we kindly ask you to FOAD. If you do not remove yourselves from the world at once, YOU WILL BE REMOVED.

Never Forget, Never Forgive

Hey, have you guys seen Waffa bin Laden, OBL's sexy miniskirted niece who likes to drink a lot at the London pubs:

[Link: www.faithfreedom.org...]

(#82) K.

Page 2.

About dogs in Islam: here's a link from the Beeb (sorry about that) about an Iranian cleric who sees dog ownership as another indication of creeping Westernization/corruption:

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

#78 Lumiere:

I certainly do remember that movie - because of it, a band of Hanafi Muslims went apesh** in Washington DC and held three buildings for a couple of days, killing one and holding dozens or even hundreds hostage.

This is confusing. Islam recognizes only one god, allah. Do not make a picture of allah. Got it.

But if the same respect is reserved for Muhammed, can't they see they are creating another God?

#77 David

Correct--Men and women worship separately, and women are forbidden to lead men in the prayers (duh--the leader stands in front, back to group, and bends over/kneels--no burka could prevent the potential for evil thoughts here--and the woman's fault, of course.)

#99 Lively

It's hard, isn't it, trying to remember to disregard logic?

Thanks to Arab inventiveness and originality, there are about half a billion similarly bearded, robed men named "Muhammed" running around. How do they know this is THE Muhammed?

Well, looks like the author is caving. I say copy this picture and post it anywhere you can get it posted. I'm gonna try my hands at arts and crafts and make a mural of it using pork rinds (kind of like macaroni pictures). Hmmm, think I could get some LLL to give me a grant for my art?

Here is part one of a series that the Indianapolis Local News is carrying about our local terrorists, err I mean muslims.

Images in Conflict

Radio ads seem to make one think that this investigation is not going to paint a pretty picture of this mosque. Also note that when the Imam is asked to denounce Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah he states:

"We will condemn anywhere there is hate, whether they are Muslim, Christian, Jew or whatever."

He never actually denounces these groups. A follow up question should have been do you believe these groups promote hate?

#102

I believe another half billion are named Abu.

#99 Lively

Well, I think technically there is a prohibition on making images of any people at all in Islam, which is why Islamic art has always been more about design and calligraphy. But that prohibition isn't necesserily practiced so strictly anymore, but as they revere Muhammad I suppose they're stricter about him. So I don't think its quite about deifying him, although certainly they do not consider him a normal man.

#96 SoCalJustice

It seems to be a universally accepted tenet of Islam.

#25 Julio Jurenito 11/10/2003 06:07PM PST

scaramouche 11/10/2003 05:56PM PST

72 VIRGINS

As for the 72 virgins, they are *not* women--they are "houris" (yes, I know what that sounds like, but the English word comes from Old Norse for "adulterer"). Anyway, these are spirit creatures (aka, demons) that are perpetually virginal (self-repairing?) . Since they are not human, they don't even have to have regular organs and such.

Western folklore has the succubus/incubus that *takes advantage* of sleeping men/women--stealing their strength. The Muslims just didn't get the "rest of the story" from the folklore, or they'd be scared spitless of their promised "boy toys." ("All of your virility are belong to us.")

I don't know whether the 28 boys are also "spirit beings" -- but 72 + 28 = 100, and the moon-god is alleged to provide a man with the strength of 100.

hmmm... screensaver walpaper themes what to do with picts that mak em whine n seethe

BTW, there are varying takes on the fate of wifey (up to x 4 or more, depending on whether he married a tree as #4--loophole, y'know). Some versions have her squatting inside the front gate, grateful she got into the garden at all. Some pacifying--er, assurances say she (and her co-wives) will be even more beautiful than the houris, so her husband will have the hots for her instead of his convenients.

OTOH, Mo- said he saw hell, and most of the inhabitants were disobedient wives--so for most muslim women, it is probably a moot point.

#99

Some moslems extend the picture-ban to all animate things. That's enough deities to make just about any religion you can think of blush!

# 98 Frank IBC

Thanks for reminding me about that. Here's an article I just googled-up.

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Following is from the March 9, 2002 edition of the Washington Post
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25th Anniversary of Terror; March 9, 2002
It came with the suddenness of September 11: a well-coordinated terrorist attack in the heart of the nation's capital, 25 years ago today. Twelve gunmen, Hanafi Muslims heavily armed with shotguns and machetes, storming into the then District Building on Pennsylvania Avenue NW, the offices of B'nai B'rith on Rhode Island Avenue NW and the Islamic Center on Massachusetts Avenue NW. Before the terrorist assault was brought to an end two days later, Maurice Williams, a 24-year-old reporter for WHUR-FM radio, had been shot dead, and dozens more had been injured, including three wounded by gunshots. Marion Barry, then a D.C. Council member, was among the injured. All told, in a 39-hour terrorist siege in Washington, 149 innocent people had been taken hostage. We forget the lesson of March 9, 1977, at our peril. Like the victims of 9-11, the victims of the violent March 9 takeover had no relation to the motives behind the assault. The Hanafi Muslims, an orthodox Islamic group, killed and took hostages in 1977 to force the government to turn over five Black Muslims convicted of murdering seven members of a Hanafi member's family four years earlier. The Hanafi Muslims also killed and maimed to stop the showing in America of the movie "Mohammad, Messenger of God" on the grounds that it was sacrilegious. Fifteen hostages at the District Building, more than 120 hostages at the B'nai B'rith building and a dozen hostages at the Islamic Center had absolutely nothing to do with the jailed Black Muslims or the showing of "Mohammad, Messenger of God." They were innocent targets of opportunity -- a condition not exclusive, but certainly common, to people living and working in the nation's capital.

The March 9 terror changed the way we live in this city well before that horror-filled September day came along. Because of the Hanafi takeover, armed guards and metal detectors were positioned where they had never stood before. Closed-circuit television cameras, identification badges and concrete barriers are now permanent features of our local scenery. Terrorism also permanently changed the lives of its victims. Bob Pierce went to work at the District Building 25 years ago as a legal intern for a council member. The day ended with him paralyzed for life, victim of a shotgun blast to the back as he lay with his face buried in the carpet.

The deep rage, the mindless, violent assault on the innocents -- all that this city saw then and last September, and in numerous bloody international incidents in between -- are solemn reminders of the scourge that can strike a power center such as Washington at any time. "I say throughout this country it can get worse and there's nothing nobody can do about it," said Hamaas Abdul Khaalis, the Hanafi group's leader in one of his apocalyptic warnings and demands in 1977. Evil forces of that day were defeated. But the lesson taught 25 years ago, which bears repeating today, is that leaders in Washington, as they build for the future, must -- in a world where terrorism seeks its day -- do no less than always prepare for the worst.

#48 Moshe, They have emphasised a lot of irrelevancy such as the height compared with the Berlin wall, as if Israel were doing something hostile. This wall is a local security measure which runs concurrent to any peace efforts. I recommend writing about some recent victims of Palestinian bombings and the numbers of innocents targetted, the fact that the bombers exploit Israel's border vulnerabilities, and act on instruction and assistance from Palestinian authorities and 'welfare organisations', the need for Israel to tackle this head on and the difficulties involved in so many operations in civilian areas, and the ultimate benefit to all parties of having a proper, secure demarcation. It means that when Israel conducts border operations there is less need to be among civilians. Also reiterate that the Israelis will move the wall when the terrorist threat is diminished.

THINK about this for a second:

The guys are so frantic to gain entry they'll blow themselves up.

Their moms were noncombatants (up until recently) because they weren't as well, "good" as men. So the only way to get "brownie points" was to have a martyr speak for them in paradise. (They think each martyr get to put in a good word for 70 family members.)

The more sons (and now daughters) that "explode" for the family cause, the more credit she gets. The more credit she gets, the better her chanches of getting into paradise.

No wonder they are so excited to send their sons and grandsons off to murder and self-slaughter. This gets them a fighting chance at a spot in their "garden." Or so they wish...

That's a motivation for many horrors.

Check out the al-Reuters headline on the RSS "World News" feed:

Saudi King Vows 'Iron Fist' Against Riyadh Bombers

Hey, sounds like a good opportunity for a certain LGF operative to infiltrate the Kingdom.

Go for it, Iron Fist!

Anyway, these are spirit creatures (aka, demons) that are perpetually virginal (self-repairing?) . Since they are not human, they don't even have to have regular organs and such.

Reminds me of the joke about Hell:

"See all those bottles of wine? They have holes."

"See all those beautiful women? They don't."

Thanks, David and Connecticut Yankee.
I wish I had Photoshop so that I could make a pic of Muhammed on all fours getting taken by a dog and some other stuff that would make the Seething Ones' heads spin as if they were in The Exorcist. The possiblities for offense are so limitless...hmmm.

102 lmg 11/10/2003 07:16PM PST

Thanks to Arab inventiveness and originality, there are about half a billion similarly bearded, robed men named "Muhammed" running around. How do they know this is THE Muhammed?

It's the only one without the bomb...

Some quotes about the 72 virgins.
Don't know about the sixty cubits (90 feet tall) bit.
I wonder if you would need a hoist?

(QURAN 37:40-4 : “In the Gardens of Paradise, Facing one another on thrones, Round them will be passed a cup of pure wine; White, delicious to the drinkers, Neither they will have any kind of hurt, abdominal pain, headache, or sin, nor will they suffer intoxication from it. And with them will be chaste females, restraining their glances, with wide and beautiful eyes.”

(QURAN 44:51-55): “Verily! The righteous will be in Paradise. Among Gardens and Springs; Dressed in fine silk and also in thick silk, facing each other, and We shall marry them to Houris with wide, lovely eyes.”

(QURAN 52: 17-20): “Verily, for those who fear Allah there will be Gardens in Paradise, filled with Delight. Enjoying in that which their Lord has bestowed on them, and the fact that their Lord saved them from the torment of the blazing Fire. The Lord will say: ‘Eat and drink with happiness because of what you used to do’. They will recline with ease on thrones arranged in ranks. And We shall marry them to Houris with wide lovely eyes.”

(QURAN 52:24): “And there will go round boy-servants of theirs, to serve them as if they were preserved pearls.”

(QURAN 55:54-59): “Reclining upon the couches lined with silk brocade, and the fruits of the Gardens will be near at hand. Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you deny? Wherein will be those houris, restraining their glances upon their husbands, whom no man or jinn has opened their hymens with sexual intercourse before. Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you deny? In beauty they are like rubies and coral. Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you deny?”

(QURAN 55:70-77): “Therein gardens will be fair wives good and beautiful; Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you deny? Houris restrained in pavilions; Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you deny? Whom no man has opened their hymens with sexual intercourse before. Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you deny? Reclining on green cushions and rich beautiful mattresses. Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you deny?”

(QURAN 56:17): “They will be served by immortal boys.”

(QURAN 56:37-40): “...We created the houris and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand….”

(QURAN 76:19): “And round about them will (serve) boys of everlasting youth. If you see them, you would think them scattered pearls.”

(QURAN 78:31-34): “As for the righteous, they shall surely triumph. Theirs shall be gardens and vineyards, and high-bosomed virgins for companions: a truly overflowing cup.”

SHAHIH BUKHARI: Volume 4, Book 52, Number 53: “…Narrated Anas: …And if a houri from Paradise appeared to the people of the earth, she would fill the space between Heaven and the Earth with light and pleasant scent and her head cover is better than the world and whatever is in it.”

SHAHIH BUKHARI: Volume 4, Book 54, Number 476: Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "… everyone will have two wives from the houris, (who will be so beautiful, pure and transparent that) the marrow of the bones of their legs will be seen through the bones and the flesh."

SHAHIH BUKHARI: Volume 4, Book 55, Number 544: Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "… Their wives will be houris. All of them will look alike and will resemble their father Adam (in statute), sixty cubits (90 feet) tall."

SHAHIH MUSLIM: Book 040, Number 6795: “…Abu Huraira…said: … and their wives will be large-eyed maidens and their form would be alike as one single person after the form of their father (Adam) (in statute), sixty cubits (90 feet) tall.”

SUNAN ABU DAWUD: Book 41, Number 4759: Narrated Mu'adh ibn Jabal: “…Allah, the Exalted, will… ask him to choose any of the bright and large eyed maidens he wishes.”

#116 Frank IBC

LOL

Oh, that reminds me of the one about the shaheed suddenly standing in Satan's presence. "Here's your 72 virgins, "martyr"--by the way, they all have perpetual PMS!"

(That, alas, is the hell of it...)

I looked at that picture and have only one question. Where are the other 70?

So WHAT? I mean, BS! I'm certainly not as Christian as I used to be, but Christians have to put up with stuff like "Piss Christ" and ultra-Goth album covers and yet, oh nooo, it's so baaad to do something like this, something is friggin' wrong!

Moreover, there's a famous Islamic picture of Muhammad on his acid trip to Jerusalem--hmph! Not supposed to have depictions of him? Some medieval Muslim obviously forgot his religion and some shahid forgot to burn it!

One last thing: I've studied a lot about Islam; indeed, Medieval Islamic science was going to be one of my foci in graduate school--and in all that reading, I'm rather convinced that Muhammad was a "lecherous womanizer".

Idiots.

(Turns back into the quiet, composed scholar everyone here thinks he is. There is more than one angry Texan around here.)

#119 tipper

(QURAN 52:24): “And there will go round boy-servants of theirs, to serve them as if they were preserved pearls.”

Heh--know what happens if you "preserve" a pearl in vinegar (or wine)? It dissolves. Looks like the joke's on the pedo--er, pearls.

You all do realize what the pretty little boys are for, right? (A few generations ago, they dressed slave boys like girls and had them belly dance and "entertain" at mens' functions...)

OTOH, in the early 1800s, the age of consent for "women" in Great Britain was TEN. Madams routinely bought 'em young from fathers who didn't have room for the new baby mom was about to have, etc.

It ain't all wine and roses in the West, either.

Notice his sword.

ROPMA

ChicagoTex, don't forget he was a pedophile too!

Well, quite a few things we're criticising here about Islam have their origin in Judaism (surpise, suprise):

Separation of men and women at prayer.

No pork rind snacks.

No graven images.

I think we need to stay focused. The problem with Islam is not so much the stuff they borrowed from other religions, but rather the stuff they didn't borrow, or made up on their own, and persist with TODAY:

Hudaibiya morality.

Slavery.

Belief in the inferiority of non-muslims, and the god given right of Muslims to kill or rule over non-muslims.

Terrorism as policy and weapon of choice.

Sharia law - stoning, amputations, beheadings as entertainment.

#86:

Menstruating women are not allowed to enter the mosque.

Do they check?

# 91 Bigel

As per usual you are well off target.

It is the EU and animal rights people that are trying to abolish Kosher and Halal slaughter in the UK.

Both methods use the type of throat cutting.

Christopher Hitchens is a friend of Salman Rushdie; his experiences with Islamists while Rushdie was under Khomeini's fatwa led him to support the war in Iraq (AFAIK). When Rushdie visited Hitchens' apartment in WDC the uniformed Secret Service provided security as tight as for a Cabinet member.

"Holy Writ"
[Link: www.theatlantic.com...]

Hitchens' latest column, "Why Iraq's last-minute peace overture was a sham.":
[Link: slate.msn.com...]

#93 Emery Calame, see this Guardian story, linked by this post by Charles.

#113, #48

It's a very silly article. When shorn of the innaccurate and emotive / abusive language, it's not clear what exactly the author is arguing for (other than the dismantling of the fence). I suspect it's the destruction of Israel.

First, some questions:

What exactly does the author see as the true roots of the conflict?

What "basic human rights" are being infringed? The right to work in Israel? If one accepts that there is something called the "Palestinian People", that "right" is as meaningful as "the Mexican right to work in the US" or "the Israeli right to work in Syria". Or is it the right to blow up buses?

What is meant by "confiscation" (an entirely meanginless term in the context of international law)?

Israeli veto?!?! Good L-rd!

How is it seriously suggested that the fence is only being constructed because the US vetoes Security Council Resolutions (this proposition is utter lunacy to anyone who has even a modicum of knowledge of the UN or the history of Israel)?

The author asks "what actions are being taken to 'secure the security' [sic] of the Palestinian people?", to which I reply "ask Arafat, it's his responsibility".

If the Palestinians laid down their arms, there would be peace. If Israel did likewise, the Jews would be driven into the sea. Yep. Violence on both sides.

If there is to be a two-state solution to the conflict, separation is inevitable. That's what happens when you create borders. There are only two positions compatible with the argument that there be no fences or checkpoints:

a) Israel from the Mediterranean to the Jordan or

b) Palestine from the Mediterranean to the Jordan (and the Jews in the sea...)

- guess which one this guy wants.

IIRC Gaza is just about completely fenced off. How many Gazan bombers have blown up inside the Green line in this latest intifada? IIRC it's 0.

22 ChicagoTex! 11/10/2003 07:37PM PST

So WHAT? I mean, BS! I'm certainly not as Christian as I used to be, but Christians have to put up with stuff ...
Moreover, there's a famous Islamic picture of Muhammad on his acid trip to Jerusalem--hmph! Not supposed to have depictions of him? Some medieval Muslim obviously forgot his religion and some shahid forgot to burn it!

One last thing: I've studied a lot about Islam; indeed, Medieval Islamic science was going to be one of my foci in graduate school--and in all that reading, I'm rather convinced that Muhammad was a "lecherous womanizer"...

Yep.

Isn't that funny about how the more you study the "cult-ure," the more you want to retch? But the West is still in no shape to cast stones--take child pornography, far away from here. (We aren't perfect, right--or Jesus would have been dumb to do the cross thing...)

As for you, you don't get "less christian"--you just need a tune-up as you go through life! We just turn back to the Living G-d and away from what alienates us from Him--He is big enough to handle the situation, but He won't act before He should, and He won't take back Free Will, no matter how folks abuse that gift. So be angry, but don't sin. Pray for those wretched people to receive their Saviour by the millions. (That's the best revenge I can think of against Mo-'s gang!)

The "picture thing" goes back and forth through history. I had books full of paintings with black lines drawn across the necks of all the people. That ceremonially "killed" the drawing, so it didn't have to get burned during a "fundie rising." Those paintings often have gold leaf, and even ground gems in the paint. During book burnings, veins of gold and silver ran down the streets as the metals melted off the burning pages. (Ah, they knew how to be critics back then. Bonfires instead of whining e-mails!)

Mohammed, meet Paul:

Galatians 1:8

But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!

(Newer Covenant, New American Standard translation, my bold)

Now, I think Moses may have a few words to say to you about idols...

*cough*cough*Pbuh!*cough*

Sorry, had to clear my throat there.

wonderduck:

Okay, okay!

Mo- (please butter ur hand), meet Paul...

#126;

It's not so long ago that Christians went in for slavery (in some places) and public hangings (especially these; we only got rid of them quite recently). The difference is, I suppose, that Christianity reformed itself.

In the meantime, another British publisher, Probert Ltd., continues to insert anti-American screeds and Zinn style histori-lies into its so-called encyclopedia, and nobody bats an eyelash.
scroll down to Battle of the Bulge

"The battle is notorious for the atrocious war crimes committed by both sides"

See entire article, Invasion of Iraq (sorry, more scrolling).

"In 2003 a 'coalition' of American led forces invaded Iraq without United Nations approval on the pretext that Iraq posessed, and refused to relinquish, weapons of mass destruction which were a threat to the security of other countries, including the USA.
Within weeks the ruling Ba'ath regime was overthrown, no weapons of mass destruction found and the justification changed to 'the liberation of the Iraqi people'.
The reality was the invasion was part of the corporate plan for world globalisation - the corporate takeover of water, oil and electric production and distribution for profit, and Iraq, led by Sadaam Hussein, was not cooperative to the idea of the theft of the country's resources by Anglo-American corporations.
President Bush of the USA and Primeminister Tony Blair of the UK both with major financial ties to the relevant globalisation corporations used their countries armies to further their own financial gain.
The illegality of the war proved the United Nations to be ineffective in policing aggressive nations."

When Islamos see this kind of shit, it only feeds their power-lust and validates their tactics of violence and prevarication.
There is a reason that the neurotic power-seeker classes favor the Islamo-fascists: they recognize a kindred spirit.
The Arab-loving fascist sound-bite media and the whorehouse academic community are the enemies of civilization.
Since I remain a nominal member of both these groups, I swear before God that I will do everything legal and moral that lies within my power to undermine, sabotage, and subvert their corrupt agenda and expel the power-mad liars and usurpers for all time.

I have never seen a group of people so apt to be insulted in my life. Just about anything sets 'em off. Moreover, it's interesting that they are teed off over the chick backdrop but are happy as clams at the appearance of Mo as a feature in a book on S & M.

no daft (#128)

# 91 Bigel
As per usual you are well off target.

Really? Not that far off at all. Hopefully this latest attempt will go as far as it did the last time they pulled this stunt.

Frank IBC #98 & Lumiere 112:
"In 1950, Khalifa Hamaas Abdul Khaalis (Ernest T. McGee) joined the Nation of Islam in an attempt to bring the sect into line with orthodox Sunni Islam... Based in Washington DC, the Hanafis still adhere to the basic tenets of Sunni Islam.
[Link: answering-islam.org...]

"PLAYBOY: Soon after you met Hamaas Abdul-Khaalis, you bought a house in Washington, D.C., that he used as an Islamic center. In 1973, a group of Black Muslims--intent on murdering your mentor--invaded that house and killed seven people, including three of Hamaas' children and his grandchild. Why were the Black Muslims after Hamaas--and were they after you, as well?
ABDUL-JABBAR: I don't think I was in any real danger, but they wanted to kill Hamaas because he'd written letters to them and to other Moslems saying that Elijah Muhammad, the Black Muslims' leader, was a sham and a fake. I'm assuming that was an affront that couldn't be tolerated by the Black Muslims. They sent some people to kill him, but he was out of the house when they came, so they killed his family. From that point on, Hamaas just kept building a bigger and thicker wall around himself. Four years later, in 1977, Hamaas and some other people from my house in D.C. took over some buildings, held hostages, and one person died.
PLAYBOY: Why did he do it?
ABDUL-JABBAR: That was Hamaas' way of protesting the opening of a film called Mohammad, Messenger of God--it's forbidden to create any likeness of the Prophet or alter the teachings or facts of his life. I went to visit Hamaas in jail before the trial, which was the last time I saw him. It's hard to know what's going on in somebody else's mind, but it seemed he was maintaining his usual demeanor and attitude."
[Link: ww3.sportsline.com...]

Note Kareem Abdul-Jabbar saying "one person died".

LightTower - thanks

zulubaby (#140):

Not that it's relevant in any way, but your link made me look with fascination upon my younger self ;-)

@134 Light Tower

Mohammed pretty much accursed himself and his people for over 1600 years with his atrocity he calls islam. The muslim has little or no peace or happiness in life. There is no familial love [protective for the wives, daughters and sisters], no honour, and no loyalty to any but the pedophile and his moon god. Even in small families it's every 'man' for himself. You can't trust anyone, you can't confide in anyone. All of the G-d given talents we are all born with are tossed down the toilet, as all creative energies are denied. No music, no art, no litierature and no sciences. So they spend their lives with headaches and cold asses from blowing in the wind. They spend the rest of the time asking if they can wipe their asses, how many times can they sneeze and when can they change their dirty underwear, if they wear any. I wonder what they do if they get an undeniable itch in their private parts, do they have to wait for the imam to tell them if and when?
It's no wonder they stay angry all the time, they have no relief from the restricted lifestyle they are imprisoned in!

a better rendition of the "seal" of the prophets would be to show him on footstool balancing a ball on his nose whie clapping his flippers--allahu nakba

Speaking of media dhimmis and the monstrous pro-Islamo "sensitivity" double-standard:
Drudge claims that the New York Daily News will report tomorrow that Hustler magazine (founded by James "snake-boy" Carville's good buddy, Larry Flynt) has gotten its syphilitic paws on some topless photos of Jessica Lynch and intends to publish them.
Best guess is that an old boyfriend of Lynch took the pics on a strictly private basis and peddled them to the porn rag.

Freedom of speech, holy, sacred, inviolable, etc. but here my own take (also First Amendment protected):
It's really unfortunate that Flynt was shot by an anonymous criminal, and not after due process of law.

Anyone want to bet how Islamo-sensitive LLL dhimmis will react to complaints about this?

#143 quark2 (awaiting take-off)

Well, that's the way the Book is--always accurate, *if* you pay attention to the context of it all. (That's why I call it the Owner's Manual. People can get so darned religious, we miss the point!)

A number of people have "heard from an angel"--conveniently forgetting that there is a war on, and 1/3 have chosen the Wrong Side.

If you listen to the Wrong Side, you get Wrong Info. GIGO--and your whole life turns pretty much to garbage, as quark2 expressed so grippingly.

That is why genuine prayer is such a powerful tool: it hits the problem at its ugly roots. (Beats griping and moaning, any day!)

This is even more practical than "#138 Shiplord Kirel"'s vow--may you be directed along the good and narrow path!

#141 Bourgeois Reactionary : You're welcome.

#145 Shiplord Kirel

"Topless photos" are usually more like "Photoshop photos"--I'd give odds it isn't her body, and that you can tell just by looking at the angles of light and shadow.

Let's quit fooling around, turn the image of Muhammed over to SomethingAwful.com and let the war begin.

The Prophet Mohammed - (Pieces Be Upon Him)

149

LOL!

#149 PDM:

"So suddenly I'm knee-deep in bimbage, and I'm all like, "hey, now, can't let the faithful see me like this; hell, can't let the faithful see me AT ALL!"

It was one hell of a night.

#99 lively--islam prohibits idolization--so any graphic representation of the profit could become an object of worship instead of the idea of the profit or the teachings of allah--the wahabbis in the 18th century desecrated muhammid's grave site in medina as an object of veneration and pilgimmage--that's why picures in a mosque is a no no--great title for a megadeath album "pictures in a mosque"---#102 lmg will the real muhammid please stand-please stand up -please stand up--cf.eminem

Many views on MPAC's website are far more offensive than that picture could ever be. It would be a fair deal for the publisher to print a Muslim bunny rabbit on that page if MPAC shuts down it's website. Also, you can't help noticing someone was flicking through a chapter on Sharia in a book on punishment and they objected to a harmless picture. Maybe the deal should be that the chapter, with rabbit, must be made available on the MPAC website.

#153 Dom

I like the rabbit. Turban or nonturban?

152 HULUGU

True, Islam claims to prohibit idolisations. Islam also builds a great big building over a black rock, which everyone must try to visit (for no clear reason) and continue the traditions of the Arabian elders, with a new name to conceal the pantheon.

Also, Islam makes something superhuman out of the alleged prophet, Mo-. (This is where morals start to notice a problem, and ethics become more situational. Sad but true.)

LightTower,

I like the rabbit. Turban or nonturban?

A big black sack, standard protection.

How can you defend the actions of a man [Muhammad] who pulls down the pants of the young boys to see whether they have grown hair over their genitals to determine whether they have reached manhood in order to decapitate them?

Muhammad just gets more interesting the more I read about him.

Actually, the real reason Muslims are offended by picture is Muhammad is carrying a moon-god symbol, the pole with the U on top. Type in Allah "moon god" in Google, and you'll see that they do not like people to refer to Allah as a moon god:
[Link: www.google.com...]

Well, when I was a Christian, I believed that Jesus died for my sins.

Now I read the Qur'an, and find that not only did Jesus NOT die, he wasn't the "son" of G-d, and certainly couldn't have forgiven us our sins.

So- If I was still a Christian, would I have basis for being pissed at Islam in general, because it disrespects the basis for the Christian faith?

P.S. I'm not a Qur'animal.

#158 therien 11/10/2003 10:14PM PST

Well, when I was a Christian, I believed that Jesus died for my sins...

That's a good start, but His real goal was far greater. Regardless of our belief, He died for *everyone*--including the IslamiNazies and worse. This is hard for us to understand--try "impossible"! (*wry grin*)

He didn't pick out the "nice" people--we are all failures, but He loves us all, anyway. (He even gives us the right to choose *not* to be with Him--but the only other place is the one prepared for the devil and his (fallen) angels--not a good neighborhood...)

"Christian" is a greek term for a follower of "the way" ("I am the Way, the Truth and the Life..."). That "way" is stained by the blood of self-sacrifice. So--do I throw that love back in His face? (Maybe not, eh?)

Humans can do horrible things, but they are no fit measurement for G-d. At our worst, we only reflect the enemy.

There is a War on, bigger than we can see.

Those Believers who understand military service should look to their Commander in Chief for their orders. The discipline of "military love" and "militant compassion" rolls over paltry emotions like "PO'd" like a Abrams tank runs over an empty soda can.

Believers are responsible to the Living G-d. We are to pray for our enemies, which is something I think we cannot do in our own strength. Only the Spirit of G-d within us can guide us to do the right thing (just like the 70 elders of the Exodus).

If we don't get serious about serving on the prayer front, the enemy will sweep down. He can't win in the end, but the Adversary (ha Satan) can make us more miserable than we have to be. (I don't like "miserable." How doyou feel?)

it shows the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) surrounded by naked women, thereby characterising him as a lecherous womanizer.

. . . airdrop copies of Playboy on Saudi and the war on terror will be over.

Ali Sina rocks:

"There is a difference between things that we do not know and things that we know are absurd. The stories of Muhammad about Jinns fall within the second category. At one time Muhammad claimed that he fought with Satan while he was prying and said if he could grab him he would tie him to a column in a mosque so every one could see him. What a ridiculous story! As he himself claims somewhere else, Satan is made of spirit. How in the world can you tie a spirit to a column and make him visible? If spirits can go through the walls, can ropes hold them in place? In another place he asks his companion not to bring bones for him to clean his anus because the Jinns find food on them. Now if Jinns are made of spirits why they need food made of matter? There is no consistency in the stories of Muhammad. He just wanted to fool his audience. That is all. In another occasion he claimed to have visited the town of the Jinns and they all converted to Islam. Well this may explain why those Jinns are so evil and why they constantly terrorize people. After eradicating Islam in this world I will try to visit the town of the Jinns and make them leave Islam too. I bet this will stop them from haunting houses and terrorizing people."

Why is the drawing so "offensive" anyway?
He's got the fly robe! He's surrounded by a bevy of fine ladies! Mohammed is pimpin!

All Mohammed needs is a '76 Coupe de Ville. And a gold tooth.

It's not "Mohammed (PBUH)"

It's really "Mohammed (PTUI!)

#14 DB

"I saw your sister naked."

That's not something to joke about in this context.

If he's a typical ROP'er, he's likely to murder his sister...

160 Cornholio - Abu Pimpin ain't easy.

">>>it shows the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) surrounded by naked women, thereby characterising him as a lecherous womanizer.

. . . airdrop copies of Playboy on Saudi and the war on terror will be over. "

lol

Afraid not, friend! Now you have a whole country full of "sinners" who need a paradise fix--There'd be bombers standing on each other's shoulders at every major Western landmark as soon as the guilt sets in.

(Remember the porn the 9/11 hijackers left behind...)

#161 ördög:ita erat quando hic adveni

Good for you! (But I don't think you have to worry about the jinns--why would a bunch of spirits want such a body-pleasing paradise? What do spirits want with food, or drink, or houris?

You know, your idea makes more sense with every thought! Good for you.

#70 frm Frank IBC

MPAC apologises {heavy breathing} for having to show this blasphemous picture. However we feel it is {heavy breathing} important that Muslims are aware {heavy breathing}, so insh'Allah {heavy breathing} we can {heavy breathing} put a stop to this...{groan, sigh}

HA HA HA HA HA, you made my day dude. I laughed till the tears came to my eyes!

Quick question, does the MPAC which is assuming the morally high ground, denounce Mahathir's controversial speech? Do they denounce suicide bombers in Israel? Should the MPAC take the publisher to court, the Judge should take these factors into consideration. BTW, what ever happened to Salman Rushdie?

And what's up with 'peace be upon him' Why must anything remotely related said about their religion is always followed with that stupid 'peace be upon him',making it sound like scripture.

NEVER insult the prophet.

NEVER, EVER!

If some hard to see semi-naked etching makes the mad mullahs froth at the mouth, then Inna Allah – The Erotic Story of a Muslim Girl, will solve the whole problem of the jihadis by giving them instant heart attacks!!!

I followed this link from instapundit to fleshbot - This babe is not bad!!
Hey Achmed, See what hides under that chador and learn how Kufrs do it better!!!

Sent e mail to enquiries@amberbooks.co.uk supporting the book and this is the reply I get??? anybody know what's going on? Looks like one of those auto generated replies.

Amber Books Ltd sincerely apologises for any offence that has been
caused by
the inclusion of a pictorial representation of the Prophet Muhammad on
page
36 in the book entitled 'The History of Punishment'. Amber Books are
currently discussing this issue with the Muslim Council of Britain who
are
advising Amber Books on the best course of action.

#149

PDM, but wasn't Big Mo into pedophilia? Those ladies were old enough to have pubic hair!

#168

Inna gadda da vida.

I found Mohammed's 72 Virgins, right here. NSFW

Allah's last prophet, Muhammad (may the balls of a thousand goats strike him on the chin for all eternity)

#169 Jamuka,

I sent the following and got the same automated response apologising for the offense caused.

Please go ahead and publish the picture of Mohammed on page 36 of "The History of Punishment". A book on punishment would not be complete without it. I understand that the presence in the background of some women is being called a blasphemy, however Mohammed is not Allah and it is normal to represent him, and besides this is an obscurity complaints against which have been organised by some idiot at the MPAC website. The picture is most appropriate to the subject because Mohammed carries a scimitar. The complaints certainly don't reflect a broad body of opinion that what few tolerances could possibly go in Islam's favour in this country should be scrapped. Nor are the complainants educated about this rare picture. Publish the damn picture.

I'm rather convinced that Muhammad was a "lecherous womanizer".

Strangely enough, so was Don Knotts.

a very interesting article about muhammad the pedophile in german.

Mohammeds Rache (revenge)

#172 -

I appreciate the humor, but next time, could you give a warning? I'm not always accessing this from home, you know.

VTK -

Yes, I've watched Three's Company. What do you know that I don't? :)

Is "Amber Books" any relation to "Amber Waves" from Boogie Nights?

#162 Cornholio -

Actually I think a hot pink 70s Eldorado might be more appropriate.

PDM:

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

#154 LightTower -

Islam claims to prohibit idolisations. Islam also builds a great big building over a black rock, which everyone must try to visit (for no clear reason)

Not to mention bow towards it and pray five times a day, every single day.

And it is kind of ironic that the first city to reject Muhammad becomes his greatest shrine.

But but but, I don't understand. Why isn't MPAC seething and whining about the fact that the Allah's Last & Best Lemon-Scented Prophet is shown wearing a sword, when in fact we all know that Islam means peace?

#168 Josh

Now that's what we need to spread in Muslim countries. Or heck, just bring her from the Muslim countries to the U.S.! Wow.

If only that were to somehow appear on the website for Al-Jazera.

Not that I'm suggesting anything ;)

Sent to MPAC:

Many of us outside of the Muslim "community" are constantly puzzled that Muslims have such sensitivity to supposed "insults" to Mohammad. It really supports those who say the Islamic world is really not capable of tolerating intellectual freedom. You seem so intellectually and spiritually weak that you cannot tolerate open discussion about your religion. Once again, you're frothing at the mouth about a book that supposedly "insults" the "Prophet," drawing attention to the fact that you seem to have the emotional stability of spoiled toddlers.

There is a constant stream of whining about this or that "insult" or "affront" to your faith. But Muslims, it's my understanding, regularly kneel down and, since the world is quite round, point both ends of their bodies towards Mecca and pray. These prayers, we must presume, offer requests, advice and information to "Allah" who, we must infer, lacks the benefit of these insights. "Oh Allah, hear my prayer, kill the Jews, blah, blah, blah." The entire Muslim world, or at least those who pray, seem to think that Allah needs to be encouraged to do that which he sees fit. If he wanted the Jews and other "infidels" dead, would we not be dead? This, of course, assumes that Allah has power to do what he wants. You're not suggesting otherwise, are you? So it seems, to the disinterested observer, that the Islamic world is full, not only of babbling imbeciles, but of blasphemous ones as well. You think Allah needs to hear your prayers to know what to do. What an insult! Off with their heads!

Sincerely,

Anonymous (since you might send one of your brainwashed murderers to visit)

Microsoft D.E. -

Reminds me of:

#1: "Do you have any pictures of your sister naked?"

#2: "NO!!!"

#3: "Would you like to buy some?"

Anyone know how much it costs to rent one of those projectors that can project a movie, etc. onto a large blank wall?

It could add that extra something to the Friday seething and whining at the local Mosque...

#181 Abdullah's BBQ

Let us know what (if any) response/fatwa you get!

#183 My friend has one of them, we watched the football (for about 10 minutes) on the tall building opposite his apartment. A fortune to hire. I don't suppose I should check UK prices for you. I know he's hired them out to event promoters. If I thought he even might say yes it would be great to borrow one for what you suggest. :(

Dom -

A bunch of skimpily-clad sweet young things jumping up and down on a Moon Bounce, would be quite a pleasant site to be seen on the wall behind a frothing Imam.

Lots of potential, no?

These people need to get the LSD out of the water supply. Insult the "prophet???" Muhammed did a lot worse than be pictured with naked women. If we really wanted an accurate picture of the bastard, it would show him raping his 9-year old wife while he sells jews and christians into slavery, and the background would be the slaughter of a city that he just sacked. Muhammed was an anti-christ. Nothing more, nothing less.

#170 final word on islam,

PDM, but wasn't Big Mo into pedophilia? Those ladies were old enough to have pubic hair!

So what are you insinuating? That I would project my own personal taste for sexy adult women onto the prophet Mohammed (the good stuff be upon him)?

#177 Frank IBC,

Thank you, thank you, thank you!

That's what Mohammed said until he met the one in the mask. :)

Why would "Amber Books" response include the phrase "peace be on him" after mentioning that pedophile Mohammed? Are they meaning to imply that they were educated enough about Islam to know that they should do so *BUT* also uneducated enough to know that this picture would drive them stark-raving-looney?

How long before US newspapers start following this stupid practice?

I'm wondering about capitalizing on all this interest in Mohammed and the Koran, these days. Perhaps something, oh, something fitting, something which would remind us, daily, of Mohammed and the Korean. Something like, say, a Mohammed-likeness-painted toilet bowl and matching Koranic Verses Toilet Paper. I need to examine production facilities.

#189 Flaming Sword

I think they were implying that they remember Salman Rushdie and the bounty on his head.

Frank IBC,

What I was going to say is too blasphemous. Islam shmislam but I just can't, I thought we'll go with your idea. And then I couldn't choose between letting the women alone or giving them a voice.

Hey, I think I figured out what PBUH means:

Pedophilic, barbaric, uncivilized heathen.

Duprofit Muhammid, PBUH

7 of the 72 Virgins

Why would "Amber Books" response include the phrase "peace be on him"

I found that to be particularly craven and disgusting too.

-US citizens are not expected to bow/curtsy to the Queen.

-Catholics do not expect a crowd of non-Catholics to join in an exlamation of "Jesus, Mary and Joseph", whenever their toddler has a near-accident.

-Jews are not insulted when non-Jews do not wish them "Shabbat Shalom/Gut Shabbes" on Friday nights and Saturdays, or kiss their mezzusas.

-Buddhists are not insulted if you do not "wai" towards their Buddha statues.

So why should non-Muslims have to grovel to Muhammad?

Frank #195

Yep--that was my thoughtline exactly.

Living in the midwestern United States, I'll probably be one of the last ones to have to deal with this, but the moment people here start trying to insert that *stupid* phrase into conversation will be the moment that I begin the ritualistic practice of interupting them and remarking, "No, to hell with Mohammed."

#193, 195, 196

I propose that we insert a new phrase when talking about Muhammed. How about, Muhammed, DHTH (D**m Him to H*ll)

Re my #195 -

Sorry, it appears I misinterpreted the update. It's not a direct quote from Amber Waves, er, Amber Publishing, it's an indirect quote via the Seethers & Whiners. It's the latter that added the PBURP.

My bad.

Flaming Sword -

Reply by saying

1) Geoffrey de Boullion (founder of the Knights Templars, First Crusade)...

2) Meyer Kahane...

3) Kemal Ataturk...

...Peace Be Upon Him

What happened when some a**hole "artist", Chris Ofili presented a collage at the Brooklyn Museum of Art in 1999 called "The Holy Virgin Mary", where she was surrounded by pictures of vaginas from porn magazines, and elephant dung stuck all over her?
Nothing.
Or what about Serrano's 'Piss Christ", a picture of a crucifix submerged in a Plexiglas container of the artist's urine in 1989, where Serrano received $15,000 from the tax payer funded National Endowment for the Arts?
Nothing.
In fact, Serrano's work was placed with the permanent collections of New York City's Metropolitan Museum of Art and London's Tate Gallery. Serrano also spewed more "art" like his "Red Pope I-III", where he shows a "series of photographs of an image of Pope John PAul II immersed in a container of blood", which "sold in a 1999 Christie's auction for $70,000." (thank you Tammy Bruce; "The Death of Right and Wrong")

188 PDM

you underestimate Mo, rules for everything

[Link: www.understanding-islam.com...]

6- Trimming Moustaches, Removing Hair from the Pubic Area and from Under the Armpits, Clipping Nails & Circumcision

not everyone in UK appreciates multiculturalism. This is quite a rant!

[Link: www.mcb.org.uk...]

04 Nov 2003

I am sorry but to all you apologists for the multicultural dream I have to say that you are BLIND!!
England used to be a wonderful country to live in. We used to look after our society. If we had enemies within our neighbourhoods we at least used to know precisely who those people were and we knew of their grievances...
Nowadays we are faced with Muslims flooding into this country to take advantage of our taxes and to claim our benefits! (we are looking after them now)!! 2nd and 3rd generation Muslim males are driving around the streets of West Yorkshre drugging and raping our femaile schoolgirls, masked islamic scum are gathering in and around mosques waving banners saying "Islam - the future for the UK".
I am speaking as a brit having the misfortune to live just off Leeds Road in Bradford, in other words I live in an area with a hell of a lot of Muslims in it... If you could feel the level of intimidation I get from just walking around in my own backyard you would perhaps understand my hatred for these people! Even the children abuse us "infidels" and spit at us (supposedly "safe" in the assumption that they are somehow untouchable (I will be putting a hammer through the head of the next little shit that tries that trick, I don't care about the consequences any more)).

We don't have this sort of shit with Sikhs, we don't have this sort of crap with Buddhists, we only have this cage rattling with the scum of the earth Muslims.
The BNP are far too soft. Voluntary repatriation is not going to work. All Muslims should be FORCED out of the UK immediately and those that refuse to go peacefully should be executed without recourse to appeal..
Muslims do not belong in civilised society, they are a cancer feeding on the western world. Islam is an evil cult of billions.
Let us do something about this infestation NOW before it is too late to save our society

Ploome -

What, they don't even allow a neatly trimmed "Hitler moustache"? (Not referring to facial hair, BTW.)

#200 ploome,

you underestimate Mo, rules for everything

understanding-islam

6- Trimming Moustaches, Removing Hair from the Pubic Area and from Under the Armpits, Clipping Nails & Circumcision

And that list is just for the women!!!

So how is Mo supposed to be able to tell the men from the boys?

#204 Frank IBC,

So how is Mo supposed to be able to tell the men from the boys?

By the way they moan?

PDM -

Houri, #8 of 72

#206 Frank IBC,

Oy gevalt!!!

That's got to be real! There isn't a sick mind and graphic editor that can make something like that up!

(But, I think I went out with her once.)

Houri #9 of 72

179 Occasional Reader 11/11/2003 06:35AM PST

"But but but, I don't understand. Why isn't MPAC seething and whining about the fact that the Allah's Last & Best Lemon-Scented Prophet is shown wearing a sword, when in fact we all know that Islam means peace? "

Doesn't the kufr recognize a peaceful, harmless *toothpick* when you see one? (You should have seen his letter opener, that Mo-!)

Let Mo and his 72 skanky hos eat cake.

re: the automated response from Amber books.

dom (#211)

From your link:

MPAC prepared to contact Muslim embassies right around the world to have the book banned.

Boy I bet all those cry babies in London that are so angry about their "rights" to protest Bush's visit are being trampled are going to blow a gasket when they find out MPAC's tactics are to "ban" books they don't agree with.

I bet the free-speech crowd will be picketing them 24/7.

i presumed the Amber is going to do the right thing.
that good, for me all religion should be respected and what
is Holy to them, as HUMAN BEING we should respect it. Isn't
peace what we dream for the whole world. If one apple is rotten
you dont cut the tree...hahahaha what a joke for someone who
do that.

The Islamists are becoming aggressive more and more in Europe. Today Ali Sina published an article on how the Islmists in UK have forced a publisher to apologize for printing a picture of Muhammad surrounded by a bunch of nude women.

This is something we all have to take action and protect our liberties. Please see this article. [Link: www.faithfreedom.org...]

So these loons say Muhammad cannot be represented (painted) because he is too "holy". Just more proof that Muslims are really Mohammedans. They object to being called Mohammedans because this implies worship of Muhammad.

But actually they do worship the pedophile prophet, mad Mo' because the Koran commands Islamics to emulate the "exemplary life" of Muhammad. To emulate him in the Jihad against the non Muslims of Dar al Harb.

Just to add the knowledge, not only Muhammad Pbuh but all the prophet is not to be reprensented.

***

There is only one God.

Quran Al-Ikhlaas

He is Allah, the One and Only;

Allah, the Eternal, Absolute;

He begetteth not, nor is He begotten;

And there is none like unto Him.

#216 Thank you. It would be great to read more of you.