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Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 8:39:44 am PST

A group called Young Muslims UK is completely bent out of shape about ... wait for it ... South Park: Complain Against Mockery Of Prophets In South Park On Channel 4. (Hat tip: James.)

The episode of South Park broadcast on 10th October 2003 at 11.40 pm featured the Prophets Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them) portrayed as ridiculous super-heroes struggling to defeat David Blaine! It's not funny and it's not clever!

Is a tiny bit of respect really too much to ask? Will the kuffar soon be using the name of the Last Prophet (pbuh) as a swear word, in the same way that they already abuse the name of Jesus (pbuh)? It is part of our aqeedah to defend the Prophets! Or will we stand by silently?

Make your feelings clear to Channel 4. Please bombard them with calls and e-mails, making the following points:

* The episode of South Park entitled 'Super Best Friends' was deeply hurtful to Muslims.

* Yes, we are aware that 'South Park' is intended to be offensive and is certainly not pretending to be a factual representation. But this programme was deliberately offensive to all Muslims by subjecting no less than three of their most respected prophets to ridicule - Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them all).

* To Muslims it is very important never to make any pictorial representations of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). It is therefore very upsetting for Muslim viewers that in this programme Muhammad (pbuh) was drawn in cartoon form, with a face and speaking role. The cartoon portrayed Muhammad in a ridiculous and offensive manner. He carried a rifle and amongst other things was made to fly around shooting fire from his fingers at a statue brought to life.

Notice: even as they whine and seethe about how offended and degraded they are by an episode of South Park, they use bigoted hate speech to describe non-Muslims—kuffar.

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1 Karski  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:42:33am
The episode of South Park entitled 'Super Best Friends' was deeply hurtful to Muslims.

#1003456 on the list of things that are "deeply hurtful" to these thin-skinned douchebags.

2 H-Town  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:42:39am
Will the kuffar soon be using the name of the Last Prophet (pbuh) as a swear word, in the same way that they already abuse the name of Jesus (pbuh)

Kuffar? I'm offended!

3 Raj Against The Machine  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:42:47am

The episode of South Park entitled 'Super Best Friends' was deeply hurtful to Muslims.

The episode of Islamist aggression entitled '9/11/01' was deeply hurtful to Americans.

Now STFU!

4 James  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:44:15am
Will the kuffar soon be using the name of the Last Prophet (pbuh) as a swear word, in the same way that they already abuse the name of Jesus (pbuh)

To move my suggestion from another thread: What a great idea!

5 Dave  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:44:16am

South Park is an equal opportunity offender.

Besides, since when do these same Muslims care about the sensibilities of others - like the Jews, for instance? We find it deeply offensive to be called the "sons of monkeys and pigs", "infidels" and everything else they throw our way.

6 Raj Against The Machine  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:44:24am

Karski - I believe they're not thin skinned; they realize that whining & complaining actually works. I don't think I'm wrong here.

7 Neo: I'll get you, Agent Smith  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:44:45am

Jesus is greater than Mohammed, I might add. Mohammed was a false prophet. Jesus is Yahweh according to my religious beliefs.

8 dsesq67  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:45:21am

My G-d, now they are out of shape over South Park. Islam, the anti-humor religion.

Maybe, just maybe, if these people learned to laugh at themselves and the world in general, we could all return to some level of sanity.

Ok, I am probably wishing too much, but the Muslims find so much to hate and issue fatwas against that they truly have seized the throne of being the ultimate KILLJOYS.

9 Izzy  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:46:49am

In that episode the 3 prophets were best friends, I thought it was rather a nice message.

10 Occasionally Smug Dirk Diggler  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:46:56am
Make your feelings clear to Channel 4. Please bombard them with calls and e-mails, making the following points:

Bombard them? Poor choice of words.

11 P-L  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:47:32am

"Please bombard them..."

...they think they are funny, don't they ?

12 Capt. Queeg  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:48:14am

"Please bombard them" being the operative words of this press release.

13 James  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:48:35am
The cartoon portrayed Muhammad in a ridiculous and offensive manner. He carried a rifle and amongst other things was made to fly around shooting fire from his fingers at a statue brought to life.

Muhammad wouldn't carry a rifle, would he? You could hurt someone with a rifle.

14 kalmia  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:49:03am

Uh, so if you find a program offensive, don't watch it maybe? Last time I checked, that's how TV worked.

15 Milo  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:49:35am

I constantly see the complaint from the ROP members:

To Muslims it is very important never to make any pictorial representations of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

Well that may very well be so, but guess what, I'm not a Muslim and its not very important to me. If they don't like it they can close their eyes.

Personally, I find pictorial representations of Mohammed quite amusing...

16 dhimmi smits  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:51:25am

mohammed (pffft) got much better treatment than he deserves on that episode.

are the arabs upset over the South Park that featured Towelie as well?

17 ibrodsky  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:51:38am

Unfortunately, many Muslims find fault with virtually everything about the West, and won't be satisfied until Shari'a reigns everywhere.

They complain that the West is too liberal. They complain that the West is too oppressive. They complain that the West supports Arab dictators. They complain that the West deposes Arab dictators.

We need to alert people to the insincerety of many of these complaints. Banning a cartoon that depicts Mohammed as a superhero won't stop them from creating cartoons that depict Jews as devils and baby-killers...

18 Darwin Akbar  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:52:49am

To UK Muslims, in the immortal words of Eric Cartman, I can only reply as follows: "Screw you guys! Respect my authoritaaaay..."

And to Muslims worldwide, I have only this to say:

"Timmmmayyyyy.!!!"

19 Elias Israel  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:52:59am

Very OT (sorry) --

Does anyone know of a published account of the incidents at Sabra and Shatila that is written by a party that is generally considered disinterested?

I'd like to learn more about that event, but I would like to try to find some sources that are lighter in the "axe-grinding" department.

Thanks.

20 daily reader  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:54:04am

It's things like this that make me want to start a web site that completely pictorializes (if that's a word) Muhammad running around acting like a monkey in heat simply to piss off the Muslims. If they want to complain, let's give them something to complain about!

Surely someone has beat me to this idea. Anyone know?

21 Milo  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:54:05am
Is a tiny bit of respect really too much to ask? Will the kuffar soon be using the name of the Last Prophet (pbuh) as a swear word

Hey, wait! I thought Joseph Smith was the last Prophet?

The last prophet

22 ibrodsky  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:54:07am

#14 Kalmia

Uh, so if you find a program offensive, don't watch it maybe? Last time I checked, that's how TV worked.

That sure ain't how it worked in Afghanistan under the Taliban. Or in Iran. Or in Saudi Arabia.

We shouldn't fool ourselves into thinking they only demand control over how they are depicted. They want control over how everyone is depicted.

23 K.  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:54:10am

#14 kalmia

They don't want you to watch it.

24 Capt. Queeg  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:54:16am

Later in the same posting...

Muslims have no objection to people expressing disagreement with the teachings of the prophets.

Now that's funny...

25 snoopy  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:54:20am

The muslims have to get over it. They are only a small fraction of the viewing public. If they feel that some program might be offensive, DON'T WATCH. Other people have rights too, you know. I personally was offended by the white-washing of islam by PBS here in the States. I made me think that islam was like Willie Wonker's Chocolate Factory, all sweet and sugary--NOT!!

26 Karski  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:54:43am

#6 Raj Against The Machine

I know.

But I think there is also a thin-skinned hyperdefensiveness here, though. At some level, they realize their beliefs are ridiculous and over-react to the slightest hint that someone is catching on.

ISLAM - THE RELIGION OF WHINING AND HYPOCRISY

27 CPatterson  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:55:44am

Rather amusing that the young seethers did not see any importance in complaining about past episodes of South Park that involved Jesus and Moses.

Then again, maybe the YS actually believe that Jews make soap carving and pasta picture offerings to Moses.

28 ESTEBAN  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:55:50am

So learn how to turn the telly off, already...

29 AB  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:56:05am

Why would mohammed make it so that no one can picture him? Was he terribly ugly or did he think he was more than human?

30 ibrodsky  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:56:29am

#19 Elias Israel 11/13/2003

Try Conor Cruise O'Brien's book "The Siege."

O'Brien was Ireland's UN ambassador for many years. He became interested in the ME because he sat next to the reps from Iraq and Iran.

31 Radian  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:56:39am

I suppose it would be offensive to replace the phrase

lika a monkey fucking a football with

like mohammed fucking a nine year old...

32 Bob  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:57:30am

Yes, sir, Amir. Nail on the head, right there, pal. My infidel, Kafir ass is going to stop using the name of my God in vain, and instead I'm going to use the name of yours. F

rom this day forward, I'm going to say "Allahdammit" or "Muhammed!!!!!" when I stub my toe, spill my beer, or when the phone rings when I'm screwing your mother.

33 RIP Ford  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:57:36am
featured the Prophets Moses, Jesus and Muhammad (peace be upon them) portrayed as ridiculous super-heroes
was deliberately offensive to all Muslims by subjecting no less than three of their most respected prophets to ridicule - Moses, Jesus and Muhammad

I think Jesus would be pretty important to the Christians, don't y'all agree. I think we can handle our own seething, thank you very much.

Oh wait, your not seething about Moses and Jesus after all, what you do not care about the Jews and Christians?

The episode of South Park entitled 'Super Best Friends' was deeply hurtful to Muslims.
34 BC  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:58:14am

Muslims are upset by the portrayal of their prophet in a TV cartoon? Their faith in their religion must be pretty weak if it can be shaken this easily.

Tom the Dancing Bug made this point a few years ago. I think he was referring to the movie "Dogma".

35 Wall St. Steve  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:58:21am

Screw you guys.......I'm going home.

36 iagofest a.k.a. abu fly killa  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:58:46am

Hey Neo,

Are you LDS a.k.a. Mormon, 'cause we also believe that.

I think one of the creators of South Park was Mormon (Matt?) and that's definitely influenced South Park. There was this funny episode where everyone was in hell except the Mormons. It was poking fun at the exclusiveness of some Mormons that believe only Mormons will go to heaven.

Gee, I'm offended. ;-)

37 b  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:58:53am

religion is the problem

38 Muhammad depicted  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:00:15am
39 datarat  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:00:22am

Here's a thought for people who are offended that has been utilized by many who dislike South Park:

TURN. THE. FUCKING. CHANNEL!

40 Mongo  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:00:27am

Yeah, I'll bet they're offended. Especially those scenes with Saddam in his bed.

Oh wait...

41 Jack Murray  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:00:29am

People offended by South Park? Nooooo... Blacks, Jews, Christians, Gays, Handicaps, celebrities, et. al. are absolutely abused on that show EVERY EPISODE! Jesus is a citizen of South Park, who has his own cable access television show "Jesus and Pals," and where is the outrage? Mohammed(PBUH) gets a cameo in an episode based on all religions and David Blaine and the turbans are in a tizzy. That's hillarious and one more reason to shut my ears off when I hear the ROP whine.

42 Radian  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:01:27am

naw b

the problem is people pushing their religion on others violently.

whiny little pricks should spend a little more time trying to propel their culture forward 500 years than whining about a cartoon.

43 whiner  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:02:04am
It is part of our aqeedah to defend the Prophets!

I don't know any Arabic, but in Hebrew, the akaydah refers to Abraham's willingness to sacrifice his son to show his faith. (In the Torah, God sends a ram to take the place of Isaac. In the version of the story that appears in the Koran, I believe Isaac is actually killed by his father!) I wonder what the connotation of "aqeedah" is to Muslims.

44 AB  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:03:27am

Where's that article on how Saudi Arabia has no humour and has to import humour from other countries? Or is it Egypt that has no humour?

Jesus and Moses carried guns on Family Guy. Why are they not outraged at this? Because Mohammed wasn't there too?

And since when was Mohammed a prophet? What phopheses exactly did he make? "Messenger of Allah" would be more correct.

45 angela  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:03:45am

They're just upset that Mohammad was never asked to be a guest on South Park's cable show, "Jesus And Pals."

46 rick w.  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:04:27am

I worship David Blaine (Peace be upon Him and his sacred lucite box) and live my life by his teachings. I'm offended too.

47 James  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:05:30am

#43 whiner

Linguistically, the word aqeedah means, "to know, bind, fasten tightly, fortify, consolidate and cement." By convention, the word aqeedah means, "a firm, unwavering belief which is not open to any doubt with its beholder."

www.geocities.com/kkhaan/intro.html

By the way, the Hebrew "aqedha" means "binding" which is why its sometimes called "The binding of Isaac".

48 Lumiere  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:06:20am

#19 Elias Israel


Don't know what your opinion is of the Kahan Commission, but many consider it the most through of the investigations. I'm not talking about the "parodies" of the report as filtered through the anti-Israel media, but the actual report itself. You can find it here:
[Link: www.us-israel.org...]

49 Mongo  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:06:21am

We all realize, of course, complaints of this nature are guaranteed to inspire Parker and Stone to be even more offensive.

This ought to be good.

50 AB  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:06:26am

I was terribly offended when Kenny's face was shown. All South Park worshippers know Kenny cannot have a face nor a voice.

As it is said in the Script (I:I:I):
MMm mm mm mm mm mMMm mm m mm

51 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:06:41am

OT - Woo hoo. Exploding Qurans. What a religion. And this is from the ones who say others don't follow Islam close enough.

Copies of the Quran were booby trapped by Muslim terrorists seeking to kill and maim pilgrims to Islam's holiest city, Mecca, according to a Saudi newspaper
Saudi security sources say police found the unusual weapon amid arms caches discovered in recent raids of terrorist hideouts in Mecca and the Saudi capital of Riyadh, reported the London-based daily Asharq al-Awsat, according to Reuters.


Gotta love that wacky RoP.
Terrorists booby-trap Quran to kill pilgrims

52 iagofest a.k.a. abu fly killa  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:06:51am

#21 Milo,

Wrong. Joseph Smith is the first prophet of modern-day prophets according to Mormon theology. There have been 15 Mormon prophets since Joseph Smith. The most recent is Gordon B. Hinkley. He's usually referred to as the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. He has 2 counselors and a council of 12 apostles . Just FYI.

Since I'm not a Muslim, I'm not sure what the big deal is about portraying Mohammed. It's not like he wasn't a living human being. Portraying Allah I might understand better because Muslims don't think he has a body as we know it.

Anyway, this guy should get a life. And why is a devout Muslim watching those foul-mouthed cartoon kids anyway? LOL.

53 jimmytheclaw  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:07:33am

hmm... wonder if they liked the stereotypes and jewish stuff made fun of and dammiti missed that episode sounds very funny oh and if you dont like it change the channel

54 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:08:21am
The episode of South Park broadcast on 10th October 2003 at 11.40 pm

Muhammadammit! I missed that episode.

Who's David Blaine? Is he the guy who suspended himself in a plastic box for X hours?

55 Karski  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:08:34am

#32 Bob

Hold that thought! I gotta go take a mohammed.

brb

56 Sean O'Hara  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:08:40am

#7

Jesus is greater than Mohammed, I might add. Mohammed was a false prophet. Jesus is Yahweh according to my religious beliefs.

Ah, they were both dirty, smelly hippies -- may peace be upon their bad-ass motherfucking selves.

57 A muslim  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:08:47am

Personally, i think that muslim group is ridiculous. I saw that episode and being American I believe in free speech. Besides it was funny.

58 Gordon  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:09:42am

A little perspective here: When "The Last Temptation of Christ" came out and had Jesus dreaming about being married to and having sex with Mary Magdalene as an alternative to his actual fate, Catholics (Pat Buchanan in particular, I remember) screamed bloody murder and demanded the film be withdrawn. So religious attempts to censor are not limited to Islam.

That being said, Pat Buchanan did not prevail, and neither should these would-be censors. They don't live in Egypt or Pakistan any more; in the West we don't censor political speech which mocks or is against religious beliefs. They certainly have the right to seethe and complain and whine to Channel 4, but if Channel 4 caves, they're not better than al-Jazeera.

59 Karski  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:11:20am

Thanks, Gordon. That was extremely helpful, as always.

60 JWarrior  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:11:24am

and I always thought the Germans had no sense of humour!

Is no sense of humour a requirement of Shria?

61 andrew  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:11:31am

#58 Gordon
Thank you, Mr. Perspective. Where would we be without you?

62 SSK  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:11:36am

Doncha just hate it when the TV program is "deeply hurtful" and there's just no way to stop it from appearing on the screen and it is just so "deeply hurtful" and you think that maybe it's time somebody invented a way to make it stop.

I'm thinking something like a channel changer thingy or an off button. If it was remote, why, you wouldn't even have to get off the couch to remove the "deeply hurtful" program from the screen.

You'd think that if man could get to the moon, maybe, just maybe, someone could invent a channel changer thingy or an off button or something 'cause it's just so "deeply hurtful" when you are forced to watch programs that are "deeply hurtful".

63 abu BIG  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:12:20am

#19 Elias Israel

You will not find an unbias account of Sabra and Shatila. The best you can hope for is to read what exists from all sides and try to make your own conclusions.

I feel that the best way to approach the research into these events is to start with Damour. Here are a couple of links to get you started.

[Link: www.geocities.com...]

[Link: www.geocities.com...]

64 observer  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:14:00am

"Jesus is greater than Mohammed" etc.

PROPHET ENVY

Treatable, but treatment is fatal

65 ZBeeblebrox  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:14:38am

#38 Muhammad depicted

My religion worships Mickey Mouse (cheese be upon him) and His Divine Concubine Minnie (may her frilliness be unruffled). That image was deeply offensive to me. I must now kill you.

66 Kalb caD-di-nee (formerly kufr)  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:15:00am

Hey if I can swallow Mr Hanky hijacking Christmas anybody should be able to swallow anything.

But I can't swallow episode 9/11/01. Eat Hanky and Die! (PBUH)

67 William  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:15:40am

Some real perspective for Gordon: The South Park cartoon featured Moses, Jesus and Mohammed (who was not depicted as a pedophile in the role).

Why don't you go hunt down some Christians seething at this South Park cartoon, and provide a link.
 

68 whiner  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:15:53am

Thanks, James.

69 MnJoe  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:15:58am

Fellow Muslims:

Even though you probably didn't see this episode of South Park and even though if you had, maybe you weren't offended by it, you should contact channel 4 and let them know you were offended.

Right. Got it./

70 Benn  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:16:14am

Change the freakin' channel. I'm sure Al-Jazeera has some wonderfully uplifting photos of dead Jews.

71 sal  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:16:15am
72 JWarrior  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:16:39am

Its hard to be a Jew on Christmas!

I'm a Jew, a lonely Jew, on Christmas!

South Park at it's best, unclefucker!

73 Mongo  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:17:29am

Gordon,

They also protested Monty Python's Life of Brian as well. While I can think of plenty of good Catholics who are very funny people, the Catholic Church has no sense of humor whatsoever.

74 ISLAM SUCKS  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:18:09am
Will the kuffar soon be using the name of the Last Prophet (pbuh) as a swear word, in the same way that they already abuse the name of Jesus (pbuh)?


I don't want to offend our friends and allies in the war against terror, muslims, so I just want to be clear about what is acceptable and what is not. Please let me know regarding the following:

Allah fucking damn it!
Muhammud fucking christ!
Allah damn bastard!
Holy fucking shit! (allah is implied)

75 ISLAM SUCKS  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:19:18am

I almost forgot, what about Muhammud H Christ on a popsicle stick?

76 Capt. Queeg  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:19:41am

Correct me if I'm wrong someone, but didn't this episode originally air about 2 seasons ago?

Super Friends

77 bill in tx  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:19:43am

Has anyone noticed the language "tiny bit of respect" and "deeply hurtful" in other Muslim group's public statements?

Are these guys reading from the same playbook?

Ya think????

I wish I had the time to research that....

b

78 ted  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:19:46am

[Link: www.memri.org...]

warning!

79 BH  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:20:16am

Ordinarily, this kind of whining would probably get a show yanked, and an apology aired. I'm betting this show is successful enough that Parker & Stone have the pull to get away with it. These seethers ought to watch what they say, or they might find Mo (pigs be up in him) in bed with Satan, like they did with Saddam. Come to think of it, that might lend a sort of historical accuracy that the show is lacking.

Personally, I'm offended that they grouped Mo with Moses and Jesus. And I'm not even religious.

80 LightTower  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:20:28am

#2 H-Town 11/13/2003 08:42AM PST

"Kuffar? I'm offended! "

You gonna bombard the Yummucks with e-mails and phone calls? (*wry groan--er, grin*)

#7 Neo: I'll get you, Agent Smith
Jesus is greater than Mohammed, I might add. Mohammed was a false prophet. Jesus is Yahweh according to my religious beliefs.

I read he testified to that effect, himself--also, that he clearly briefed everyone on Mission 1: "He was handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when He had opened the book, He found the place where it was written: 'The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed; To proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord.'" Then He stopped: He did not read "And the day of vengeance of our God;"--*yet*! This is called a clue.

#13 James 11/13/2003 08:48AM PST

"Muhammad wouldn't carry a rifle, would he? You could hurt someone with a rifle. "

An obvious insult! Mo- would carry an automatic machine gun and tank-killer launcher at the very least, and shoot flamethrower-quality blasts from his whole fist. /sarcasm

#14 kalmia & #28 ESTEBAN

Uh, so if you find a program offensive, don't watch it maybe? Last time I checked, that's how TV worked.

Kufr! A fatwa on your Off buttons! /fanatimam

81 LightTower  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:20:48am

Short version: E-mail bombardment is e-jihad (a good way to draw in the squeamish).

82 jimmytheclaw  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:21:18am

#49 Mongo 11/13/2003 09:06AM PST

good idea everybody forward the thread or topic or url to southparks creators

Welcome to Southparkstudios.com. This site is brought to you by Comedy Central and the Cast & Crew of South Park. We will try to bring you all the most up to date information regarding the show South Park, it's Creators and Crew. If you've got a hot news bite, please email us at: news@southparkstudios.com.

[Link: www.southparkstudios.com...]

83 jess pasinthru  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:21:29am

Hi-De-Ho!!!

"What is this, some sort of "Towley Ban"...

84 Salman Rushdie  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:21:58am

Name of the prophet as a swear word...


They must be mo-ha-mm-fucking-mad!!! (pbue)

Who wouldnt envy someone that could shoot fire from thier fingers?

85 RIP Ford  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:22:23am

#65 ZBeeblebrox

LOL!

86 FreakyBoy  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:22:35am

Yet, Mr. Slave is okay to them on many levels.

87 Montaigne's Cat  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:23:28am

All those who have pointed out the humorlessness of the Islamoids are correct. I just came across this great paragraph in Mark Twain's Mysterious Stranger

Will a day come when the human race will detect the funniness of these juvenilities and laugh at them - and by laughing destroy them? For your race, in its poverty, has unquestionably one really effective weapon - laughter. Power, Money, Persuasion, Supplication, Persecution- these can lift a colossal humbug - push it a little - crowd it a little - weaken it a little, century by century: but only Laughter can blow it to rags and atoms at a blast. Against the assault of Laughter nothing can stand.

More Islam and Mohammed humor, please.

88 abu BIG  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:24:39am

65 ZBeeblebrox

I think your Mickey Mouse religion is just Goofy!

89 Lumiere  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:25:47am

# 63 abu BIG wrote,
"You will not find an unbias account of Sabra and Shatila."

In total agreement.

90 Great Cthulhu  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:26:35am

By the pork breath of Muhammed, this is getting fun!

91 Lollia  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:28:00am

This just proves that Muslims have no sense of humor.
Muhammad had barely any lines in that episode and did nothing.

Meanwhile...
Moses was portrayed for the second time as a giant spinning driedel/computer face (The first time he was on the show he demanding macaroni pictures as sacrifices at a camping trip).

And Jesus hosts a regular cable access show in the town, has fought Santa Claus to the death, has fought Satan in a boxing match, and was shot in the back by an Iraqi soldier while trying to save Santa from torture.

And no one compained this much.

But I guess thats cause Muhammad is special, right?

92 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:28:19am

Was there any seething about this. I am sure there was, even though it was hilarious.

Mr. Garrison: I heard there is no Christmas
In the silly Middle East
No trees, no snow, no Santa Claus
They have different religious beliefs

They believe in Muhammad
And not in our holiday
And so every December
I go to the Middle East and say...

"Hey there Mr. Muslim
Merry fucking Christmas
Put down that book the Koran
And hear some holiday wishes.

In case you haven't noticed
It's Jesus's birthday.
So get off your heathen Muslim ass
and fucking celebrate.

The full lyrics

Sorry for all the F bombs in there if there are any kids reading it, even though I am sure that they have heard it.

93 Karski  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:28:33am

Why hasn't Allah weighed in on this yet?

Damn him and his day job.

94 Stan LS  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:30:49am

They already got Amber Books Ltd to apologize:

Amber Books Ltd sincerely apologises for any offence that has been caused by the inclusion of a pictorial representation of the Prophet Muhammad on page 36 in the book entitled 'The History of Punishment'. Amber Books are currently discussing this issue with the Muslim Council of Britain who are advising Amber Books on the best course of action.

95 HalfLife  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:30:57am

#63 abu BIG

Thanks for the links - I hadn't heard about Damour. How unsurprising - Muslims massacre Christians and no one mentions it. Christians massacre Muslims, and it's an international scandal.

Of course, as my rabbi said at the time - "The Christians kill the Muslims, and everybody blames the Jews!" I suspect the Sabra & Shatila massacre wouldn't have gotten so much play if Israel hadn't been involved.

Still, it's amazing how no one ever gives the context - that the Muslims had been killing Christians with abandon... Also, I noted on the Jewish Virtual Library page that of the hundreds dead, only 35 were women and children. This is of course still horrible, but it suggests the point wasn't just to wipe everyone out.

96 jimmytheclaw  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:31:04am

#33 RIP Ford 11/13/2003 08:57AM PST
make fun of jesus is nuthin ever see the episode where god showed his true face i hope the repeat this episode here in the us

97 kayawanee  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:31:53am
The episode of South Park entitled 'Super Best Friends' was deeply hurtful to Muslims.

Coming late to this thread, so if this has been said, please forgive me:

Muslim: This is humiliating me. Your culture is humiliating me. Must destroy...must attach explosive belt to body and destroy infidels...humiliation making me kill many dhimmis...can't stop...

98 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:34:10am

Here is the song:
Merry Fu**ing Christmas

99 BC  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:34:25am

OT (though this is a great topic):

Article in Debkafile on the new Ahmed Korei government. Debka describes what it says Korei has cited as his "nightmare scenario":

Supposing, one fine day, the Americans say ‘Mister Ahmed Qureia, this morning the British, Israelis and Egyptians gave us the names of the murderers of the three CIA men killed by a remote-controlled bomb blast on October 15 in the Gaza Strip. We asked you for those names but you did not oblige. Here they are now and we want you to head down to the Gaza Strip today, order your security forces to pick them up and hand them over to us.
This is what Qureia is most afraid of. He knows he can’t bring them in himself. He will have to ask Rashid Abu Shbak, Dahlan’s successor as head of preventive security, to hand the men over to him as prime minister. But he knows Abu Shbak will laugh in his face.

Sounds like a great scenario to me. It's pretty sad when a prime minister has a "nightmare" in which he's actually asked to prosecute murderers in territory he supposedly controls.

100 sharona  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:36:49am

Don't tell me they're going to put a fatwa on Trey Parker and Matt Stone?

Then there'd really be hell to pay!

101 jimmytheclaw  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:38:19am

#72 JWarrior 11/13/2003 09:16AM PST

Its hard to be a Jew on Christmas!

I'm a Jew, a lonely Jew, on Christmas!

South Park at it's best, unclefucker!

thought that was from adam sandlers cartoon movie

102 Allah  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:39:17am

Karski--Er, Allah has no day job at the moment. The entries just take a really long time to write.

103 Karski  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:41:49am

#102 Allah

My apologies, O Resplendent One.

104 scaramouche  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:44:09am

Dear Channel 4,

I would like to voice my concern about your recent broadcast of the "South Park" movie because it included that nasty song "Blame Canada."

As a practising Canadian, I was outraged and deeply hurt by the way the movie subjected my country--which everyone agrees is a bastion of niceness in a cold, cruel world--to ridicule on an international level.

Moreover, it is unacceptable to characterize Canadians as malevolent toque-wearing, beer-swillers. Such depictions provoke Canada-haters to act out in anti-social ways.

I was also deeply hurt by your depiction of my recently departed leader (departed in the political sense), Jean Cretien. I know he is difficult to understand at times, but did you have to resort to English subtitles? After all, he was speaking English (I think; I'm pretty sure). As for having him break out in hives at the mention of supporting the American war effort in Iraq--well, again, I think you've crossed the line there.

I trust that you will not subject my country to any further abuse, and I hope you will agree that when it comes to Canada, one must put all kidding aside.

Yours truly,
scaramouche

105 Dick Cravat  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:44:50am

> Hey, wait! I thought Joseph Smith was the last Prophet?

Hmmm, I'll see your prophet and raise by a couple.

Wouldn't the leader of heaven's gate be considered to have been the most recent "successful" prophet? Before him would be Rael of the Raelians.

And a half a century before that would be L. Ron Hubbard (and Charles Manson) of the Scientologists and the whole pantheon of "new age" religions that have been foisted on the gullible.

Of course, if one wanted to stay within just the muslim "abrahamic" mythology, then Baha'ullah was the most recent prophet who started a subcult of islamists.

106 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:44:57am

#101 jimmytheclaw

Nope. It's Kyle.

107 snopes  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:45:15am

#54 Occassional Reader,

LOL. Mohammadammit! Too bad it is too long. It might have caught on.

****

Now I get it. It is all about identity politics.

The episode of South Park entitled 'Super Best Friends' was deeply hurtful to Muslims.

The really go with the phrase to Muslims.

So next time you write a letter, make sure to use whatever religous/ethnic/socio-economic group you happen to be in and you'll get more sympathy from the powers-that-be.

9/11 was deeply hurtful to Christians.

The Arab press's bias is offensive to all Jews.

To Hindus it is very important to refrain from bombing trains full of people.

108 Seymour Paine  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:45:34am

Is a tiny bit of originality too much to ask? In an article entitled "Publishers Insult Prophet (pbuh") on MPAC's web site (Muslim Public Affairs Commission) the same words appear

Complain about blasphemous picture of the Prophet (pbuh) with naked women.

MPAC apologises for having to show this blasphemous picture. However we feel it is important that Muslims are aware, so insh'Allah we can put a stop to this.

It has been brought to our attention that a British company has published the above 'portrait' of Allah's last prophet, Muhammad (peace be upon him) to illustrate the topic of Shariah in their book, 'The History of Punishment'. Why would anyone paint the prophet Muhammad (pbuh) surrounded by naked women?! Why have they chosen to cause so much hurt to Muslims? Is a tiny bit of respect really too much to ask?

109 snopes  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:46:26am

#104 scaramouche,

LOL. You've got it.

110 Smitty  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:48:31am

#104 LOL!

Don't remember the exact lyrics but there was a line about "...that bitch Ann Murray..." Hilarious.

111 Karski  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:49:39am
Is a tiny bit of respect really too much to ask?

I've been noodling over this plaintive query and I have concluded:

Yes, yes it is. Until you've earned it.

112 Headbutt Muhammad  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:54:53am

Insulting Muslims is one of my favourite pastimes. I'm going to do it more.

113 scaramouche  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:55:21am

#110 Smitty

Here's the offensive song in question, including the line about national treasure Anne Murray (recently surpassed by the much sexier Shania Twain):
[Link: www.stlyrics.com...]

114 bohman  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:55:56am

i remember that episode, it was one of their best ever. right up there with the pilot that featured Jesus fighting Santa Claus.

it is a well known fact that if south park pisses you off, the joke is on you.

bravo Trey and Matt!!!

i cant wait for BASEketball 2.....

115 Shipman  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:57:21am

Allah you built up a lot of comp time during the last milienium I suppose?

116 Rick Z  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:57:29am

Well, I must say, this thread gave a jump start to my day. Muslims complaining about South park? That, in and of itself, is a laugh riot!

Mohammed (taking the advice from the link of using the name as a swear word!), these Muslims can be sooooo depressing that someone ought to pen their musical anthem (if they believed in music, actually), "Jihadi Blues."

117 J. Lichty  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:57:52am

I would think they would applaud the episode where Muhammed is destroying the Jew David Blaine. In fact, I am surprised we have not seen such a cartoon in Abu Dabby or some other moderate Muslim center of culture and follow-up.

Boy even scripts acting out their fantasies to kill Jews cannot soothe their humiliation. This must really be important to them maybe we shoud listen (peace be upon us for a change).

118 maximus  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 7:59:33am

Jumping to the bottom of the threads...

Allah Damn!
Damn Mohammed!
Mohammed be Damned!

are the ones that come to mind.

119 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:01:07am

#113 scaramouche

Mmmmmm...... Shania...

120 Seafarious  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:01:49am

OT: shout out and a secret minion handshake (that I'm still working on) to my new homies OR, EW1, and SoCalJustice (pbut)...

121 Smitty  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:02:07am

#113 Thanks scaramouche! BTW, someone that can locate South Park lyrics that fast may require the aid of a 12-step program...

122 torchy  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:04:05am

I think Amir2001 should lighten up on South Park.Which of the following main characters wouldn't any Muslim male seek to emulate?

Eric Cartman makes fun of Kyle by saying "I don't need to take that kind of s**t from a Jew",

Stan Marsh is the only character on South Park that is actually intelligent and girls like him ALOT.

Kyle Broslofki sings The song "I’m a Jew" because he doesn’t want to be Jewish. The refrain lyrics are: I’m a Jew A lonely Jew On Christmas

Kenny McCormick loves dying.

123 John Bono  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:04:39am
Is a tiny bit of respect really too much to ask? Will the kuffar soon be using the name of the Last Prophet (pbuh) as a swear word, in the same way that they already abuse the name of Jesus (pbuh)? It is part of our aqeedah to defend the Prophets! Or will we stand by silently?


Jesus Mohammeding Christ! These mohammeding islamokazes are just plain absomohammedlutely out of the mohammeding minds! I couldn't give two mohammeds what they think. I'd rather be mohammeded up the mohammed than have to listen to this class A bullmohammed.

124 John Bono  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:07:44am

And one other thing:

These islamokazes are major league mohammedholes.

125 Occasionally Smug Dirk Diggler  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:09:35am

These kids at the YMUK can all eat Shiite.

Not a Muhammedan swear word, but sums up my feelings nicely.

126 Neo_Con  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:11:07am

What the hell is "PBUH"??? Is he clearing his throat?

127 Karski  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:12:22am

#126 Neo_Con

I think it's short for "piss be upon him". Or something like that.

128 abu BIG  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:12:55am

#95 HalfLife

Thank you for your reply. Well, if you had never heard of Damour, then I am sure that you never heard of Hama Syria either.

Three years ago, you could do a web search on Hama Syria and it would have brought up articles about one of the worst civilan massacres of the 20th century. Today when you do a web search, all you will see is travel info and hotel stuff.

If you would like to read about the love one Muslim has for his brothers, I reccommend the following:

[Link: www.2la.org...]

[Link: www.shrc.org...]

129 jimmytheclaw  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:14:40am

wonder if they will dispatch a killer crew to go find south park colorado and go after the offenders lol

130 Neo_Con  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:15:47am

oh, I get it. As in "the Prophet Mohammad (STFU)".

131 fred from AL  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:15:59am
Will the kuffar soon be using the name of the Last Prophet (pbuh) as a swear word,

Naaahhh, it's just too long, doesn't have that ring too it.

Hope you don't feel left out.

132 Crill  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:19:59am

Can you imagine the outcry if a Jewish organization were to call everyone else 'gentiles'?

133 Ed Moran:Jewish Shriners? Whats Next?  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:25:28am

OT, but I was doing a little post lunch reading (if you know what I was talking about) and I learned something new. I was reading in the obituaries, and found a woman whose husband ( before he passed) had been mayor of Schulenberg, TX. This woman was a member of the Daughters of the Revolution, and the United Daughters of the Confederacy, along with being a founding member of Temple Israel in Schulenberg. I knew there were Jews in America back during the Revolution and the Civil War, but I didn't know there were Jewish Shriners (Her husband was Potentate of the Arabia Shrine Temple of Houston).

134 fred from AL  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:26:53am

#47 James

By the way, the Hebrew "aqedha" means "binding" which is why its sometimes called "The binding of Isaac".

If you ever wonder of anyone appreciates your little details - I do. Thanks, you add to this blog IMO.

135 kayawanee  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:31:12am

#132 Crill

Can you imagine the outcry if a Jewish organization were to call everyone else 'gentiles'?

Oooh! A moral relativist! The difference my friend is that no Jew is going to forcibly convert entire nations to Judaism. They don't even proselytise.

136 LightTower  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:32:37am

#43 whiner 11/13/2003 09:02AM PST

(In the Torah, God sends a ram to take the place of Isaac. In the version of the story that appears in the Koran, I believe Isaac is actually killed by his father!)

What Isaac? Don't you know the Bible is "tainted"? Qu'ran says the guy on the slab was Ishmael--and he was redeemed with a lot more than one little ram (As-Saffat 37:100-111.) As-Saffat 37:112 alleges to fortell the birth of Isaac. (As-Saffat 37-113 already condemns "some" of the descendents, BTW.)

I guess this Isaac stuff all happened after Abe and Ishy allegedly built the Ka'bah at Mecca (Al-Baqarah - 2:127).

(Please pass the moonbat juice. Reading surras makes me dizzy.)

137 Salman Rushdie  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:33:31am

Slightly O/T

[Link: www.faithfreedom.org...]

The truth is however that Muhammad was not a supper sexual. At his old age, he probably was impotent. But this does not mean that he did not have sexual thoughts and sexual reveries. He loved to fondle his young wives and play with them when they were naked.

Bukhari Vol.1 Book.6, Number.299
'Aisha said: "Whenever Allah's Apostle wanted to fondle anyone of us during her periods (menses), he used to order her to put on an Izar (dress worn below the waist) and start fondling her." 'Aisha added, "None of you could control his sexual desires as the Prophet could."

138 fred from AL  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:35:13am

#66 Kalb

Hey if I can swallow Mr Hanky

Whoa, dude, pick your words a little more carefully! ;-)

139 niall  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:35:36am
* To Muslims it is very important never to make any pictorial representations of the Prophet Muhammad

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(____)
() 0/()
*( > )*
*******
**o/**
*****
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*

Does really bad ASCII art count?

140 Charlie  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:38:35am

Why in the world would there not be Jewish Shriners? The Shrine, like the Freemasons, are open to any religion, or even people of no religion as long as they are willing to profess belief in one Supreme Being. There are Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, Zoroastrians, Wiccans ....

141 LightTower  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:39:40am

#74 & #75

Thanks for asking! Would you make an adjustment, please?

"Christ" is an old street-greek translation for "Messiah." (This means "anointed one," which is a godly honor in the Bible--priests, prophets and kings were anointed for G-d's service.)

So if you use christ with Mo-, you are digging at both Christians and Jews.

142 Gary of Carlsbad  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:39:48am

I have a suggestion for YMUK:

TURN OFF THE TV!!!!! GET A LIFE!!!

143 Doug Stewart  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:40:13am

#131
Fred:
It's not too long to be used creatively.

To paraphrase the Professor from Futurama:

"Sweet creeping Zombie Mohammed on a gas-powered pogostick!"

144 Smitty  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:40:18am

#139 niall

It might be just me, but that kind of looks like Santa Clause...

145 veebee  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:44:33am

Something inside of me tells me that South Park will issue an appology.

146 Crill  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:45:18am

#135 Kaywanee
I'm not a moral reletavist at all! You don't know me, and I'm sorry that you misinterpreted my remark.

147 Jonny  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:46:27am

I wonder if Cox and Forkum will parody this one.

148 Microsoft delenda est  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:46:38am

Using the name of Mohammed (PTUI!)
as a swear word??

Well, Mohammed H. Quraish! That's one damned fine idea!

From my days in the computer business, I could swear that the Last Prophet was Steve Jobs. (You had to be there.)

149 scaramouche  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:46:58am

Speaking of some other people who can't take a joke...
[Link: ajc.printthis.clickability.com...]

150 Rednek  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:47:02am

Didn't they read the disclaimer at the beginning of the episode.

151 Ed Moran:Jewish Shriners? Whats Next?  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:48:38am

I have actually turned off a few South Park episodes. I'm not particularly fond of Jesus portrayed as a burnout, but the episode I found most offensive was when Butter's mom was trying to kill him, which I intepreted as a rather sick way to make jokes about the Andrea Yates tragedy.


Of course, I just switch to something else on the TV, maybe Animal Planet ( no, no Muslims there despite the name), or Discovery or TLC, as long as they don't have one of those retarded home makeover shows on. I used to love to watch "Wings" ( not the lame sitcom ), but now it is on channel 400 and my wife doesn't want to spend the extra money for a digital cable box.


Gordon, I remember the controversy about The Last Temptation of Christ". Remember how the Pope urged all Catholics to kill Martin Scorcese? Remember how Willem DaFoe had to go into hiding for fear of his life?
Remember how followers of the Rev. Falwell bombed Harvey Keitel's house? I'm sure you remember Pat Buchanan urging his followers to plant bombs in the theatres during weekend matinees.


You do remember all that, Gordo, don't you?

152 LightTower  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:49:41am

"... Is a tiny bit of respect really too much to ask? Will the kuffar...."

Ah, respect! Like this example in the very next 3 words....

;^p (Oops--where's my lovingkindness? Why should I stay down at *their* level?)

153 kregger  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:50:50am

if they think that episode was offensive, wait until they see "Osama Bin Laden Has Farty Pants" episode where the boys make fun of muslims and not just Mohammed! anyone else remember Cartman praying toward Mecca alongside Osama? HILARIOUS!

154 fred from AL  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:51:14am

#143 Doug

I stand corrected, the "zombie Muhammed" gets the alliteration going... makes it work in a longish way.

155 niall  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:51:42am

#144 Smitty

Then I am even more successful than I hoped! I have rendered Mohammed in the likeness of a Christian icon with strong capitalist associations! BWAHHAHAHAHA!!!


If this offends muslims, then I'll be glad to stop as soon as they quit killing non-muslims, which is offensive to my religion.

156 Zionist Catholic  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:55:36am

I make a motion that we all start using Mohammed as a curse word instead of Jesus Christ.

Logically it makes sense to do so as Jesus never cursed while Mohammed was a curse on humanity.

157 Me  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:55:49am

Looks like the Jihadis need to learn to stop having a Mohammed over every little thing.

158 RIP Ford  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:57:30am

#145 veebee

Something inside of me tells me that South Park will issue an appology.

I seriously doubt it. I'd be looking for a full episode with Muhammed next. That seems to be the way the show works.

159 abu BIG  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:58:36am

Wouldn't it be easier if the Islamics just issued a list of what doesn't offend them than what does?

Things that don't offend Islam
Honor Killings
Slavery
Female genital mutilation
Polygamy
Sex with Minors
Sex with Animals
Murder
Extortion
Rape

Things that offend Islam
(Anything not on the above list)

160 J.D. aka Polly Prissypants  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 8:59:57am

I'm offended by the YMUK. To whom do I write?

161 zulubaby  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:02:06am

I have yet to hear of a Muslim with a sense of humour. I don't think it's possible to seethe and laugh at the same time so that may go toward explaining it.

162 Clutch  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:07:56am
Mohammadammit!

It does have kind of a nice lyrical flow to it. I like it.

163 AG abu He Hate Me  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:08:09am

Anyone else notice that ever since the IDF cracked the Syrians, it has been quieter in the land of roaming Jooo?

164 veebee  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:09:24am

RIP Ford

I hope you are right. I don't watch South Park often, but from what I have seen the show, despite its reputation is fairly PC. The idea for this particular episode was to underline "our common Abrahamic (sp?) heritage".

165 sefton  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:10:32am

As Kyle (the Jew) would say:
"You bastards"!

166 Ficus carica  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:15:57am

Logically it makes sense to do so as Jesus never cursed

On behalf of fig trees everywhere, I must object to this transparent attempt at historical revision...

167 sefton  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:17:47am

They should all just go to Casa Bonita and do a little cliff diving and chill.

168 abu BIG  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:18:15am

#163 AG abu He Hate Me

Me thinks that 90 miles of Security Barrier also is playing a role in the relative quiet.

169 Ed Moran:Jewish Shriners? Whats Next?  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:19:18am

OT, Mount Washington, NH ( where it is only 3 months to the First in the Nation Presidential Primary ) has 1/16th mile visibility in snow and freezing fog, temperature 17F ( -8C), but the 63 mph (~105 kph) sustained winds gives a brisk chill factor of -23C


Meanwhile, Winter Storm Warnings for much of New York State!


Back in Houston, temperatures are struggling to make 22 degrees with a brisk northeast wind and overcast skies after yesterdays October like temperatures near 30.

170 Seymour Paine  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:19:54am

OT. Two suggestions.

1. In Canada and Europe, people critical of Islam have been sued because they have made "slanderous" comments or comments which defame or are hurtful (of course, usually factual comments which they don't like). But...what little reading I've done about the Koran and the Hadith tells me that there are plenty of rather vile things written in these books which are hurtful of Jews and Christians. So, I wonder why those books haven't been removed from the bookshelves in Canada and Europe? Perhaps someone can bring a lawsuit about it.

2. Just for shits and giggles, why not form an Islamic-sounding group, like, "The Supreme American Muslim Judicial Council"? And incorporate it and take the name? And a few other similar names and then issue statements. Just for the fun of it?

171 Cartman  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:21:07am

Casa Bonita?!
Thats my favorite place in the whole wide world!

172 abu BIG  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:21:20am

Ed, thanks for the weather update. It is 80 and sunny here in the sunshine state. But I do detect a hanging chad in the forecast.

173 newname  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:22:04am

"Go back to San Francisco with all the other Jews."- Cartman

174 fred from AL  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:22:09am

#150 Redneck

Didn't they read the disclaimer at the beginning of the episode.

I'm ADD (really) and I've never been able to react quickly enough to read it.

What does it say?

TIA

175 Jonny  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:23:03am

#158 RIP Ford

I'm keen to South Parks response to this one actually.

#161 Zulubaby,

What do you call an arab with a sense of humour?

Azif.

176 Wes  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:23:39am

That was a great episode of South Park! Another good one was the 100th episode: "I'm a little bit country"

177 kayawanee  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:23:45am

#169 Ed Moran:Jewish Shriners? Whats Next?

Meanwhile, Winter Storm Warnings for much of New York State!

Ed, are you an upstate New Yorker?

178 Californican Crusadette  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:24:34am

OT
John William Racine / Hacker Hero
Sentenced to "slap on the wrist" for hacking into the Al Jazeera site creating mayhem and lots of Arabic seething...

Let Freedom Ring!

179 bill in tx  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:25:28am

#139 niall

Does this count?

(*)

180 newname  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:25:30am

#174 fred

Here is the usual SP disclaimer:

ALL CHARACTERS AND EVENTS IN
THIS SHOW--EVEN THOSE BASED
ON REAL PEOPLE--ARE ENTIRELY
FICTIONAL. ALL CELEBRITY VOICES
ARE IMPERSONATED.....POORLY.
THE FOLLOWING PROGRAM
CONTAINS COARSE LANGUAGE
AND DUE TO ITS CONTENT IT
SHOULD NOT BE VIEWED BY
ANYONE.

181 LightTower  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:25:40am

#33 RIP Ford

"Oh wait, your not seething about Moses and Jesus after all, what you do not care about the Jews and Christians?"

That too, but their noninterest has another cause: "those guys" just aren't up there with Big Mo-:

Aali Imran - 3:84
Say (O Muhammad SAW): "We believe in Allâh and in what has been sent down to us, and what was sent down to Ibrâhim (Abraham), Ismâ'il (ishmael), Ishâque (Isaac), Ya'qûb (Jacob) and Al-Asbât [the twelve sons of Ya'qûb (Jacob)] and what was given to Mûsa (Moses), 'Iesa (Jesus) and the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between one another among them and to Him (Allâh) we have submitted (in Islâm)."

Notice how many beings have been hijacked--er, adopted into Islam.....

182 mark holland  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:25:41am

#19 Elias Israel

One of our regulars was there. He was kind enough to give us his account of what happened from his perspective recently.

Caton, hope you are okay and that you come back 'round these parts soon.

183 Rick Z  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:25:56am

# 172 abu BIG:

But I do detect a hanging chad in the forecast.

Better a hanger than a pregger!

184 Cartman  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:26:29am

RESPECT MY AUTHORITY!

185 Abu Ropma  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:26:46am

This cartoon is like swine shit. It is undoubtedly the work of zionist sons of pigs and monkeys. It even contains a jew character but no muslim. Another proof that americans are being brainwashed by the secret jewish world-wide conspiracy.

American men, stop watching this rubbish and raise up to the glory of Allah! American men, you have nothing to lose and all to gain for converting: your wifes will be your servants, you will be able to buy and sell human slaves at will, you will wear the same dirty robe every day and never shave but no one will dare mock you. And you will request five extra breaks every day to your boss to pray.

186 Al-Hambri Al-Equifax Martyrs  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:27:17am

Infidels

We have issued a fatwa on the creators of this travesty, and for good measure, issued fatwas also on the authors of posts # 86 thru 165 consecutively.

187 sefton  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:27:22am

Weather report for [bigoted word]s in Iraq:
100 percent chance of a heavy shitstorm today and tommorow.

188 Jonny  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:28:55am

#170 Seymour Paine

I'm not exactly sure, but I think in Canada that regligion can override hate laws.

189 Rick Z  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:29:43am

# 178 Californican Crusadette:

From your link:

Web traffic from Al-Jazeera's site was redirected by Racine for about three days ending March 27, prosecutors said. In addition, about 300 e-mails were hijacked.

I wonder if any of the emails were flown into an Al-Jizzeera office building?

190 scaramouche  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:31:06am

I think we need to make a lot more fun of certain anti-Semitic concepts so as to reclaim them and ultimately defuse them. For example, I'd like to see an animated cartoon a la Ren and Stimpy called "Ape and Pig". It would follow the adventures of a cunning but lovable Jewish Ape and a slovenly but adorable Jewish pig. They could have adventures all over the world, cavorting with Jew-haters in Muslim lands, as well as Europe. (Their visit to Paris should be an all-time classic!)

As part of the campaign to "Take Back the Hate", I have also written a musical version of The Protocols of the Elders of Zion."

Any backers?

191 abu BIG  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:31:45am

186 Al-Hambri Al-Equifax Martyrs

Another fatwa? WTF? I've got more of those than I have had speeding tickets. I think I'll take all my fatwas and wallpaper a room.

192 Yassar Datsmibebe  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:32:02am

They are far too easily offended to be able to live in civilized modern society. This is what happens when you strip a culture of its sense of humor. Where is the Arab Jackie Mason? That's the problem, no Mel Brooks. They would have hung the man if he wee a Muslim for his general irreverence to all religions equally.

DUDES, It's a Effin' cartoon !!!! But I guess now they will have to go out and blow up a synagogue or something becasue of this horrific humiliation be some kuffar college kid cartoonists.

BTW: If Jesus and Moses are so sacred to Muslims, THEN WHY THE EFF DON'T THEY PAY ANY ATTENTION TO THEIR TEACHINGS !!!!!

193 abu BIG  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:37:27am

190 scaramouche

Any backers?

I've already put all my money into "Springtime for Hitler".

194 hans ze beeman  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:38:59am

Self-victimization in perfection. Double standards in perfection. Who does actually take this seriously? They are humor-amputated, it appears... laugh at yerselves sometimes, it helps.

I'll simply call myself the Ayatollah of Rock'n Roll in the future - just to show I'm an uppish kufr! ;)

195 Baron Bizarre  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:39:59am

As a comics fan, I'd like to point out that the real offense of this episode was the heartless mockery of Aquaman by the inclusion of the characters of Seaman and Swallow!

196 Jonny  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:40:53am

#190 scaramouche

I'd like to see a parody of MAD Mahatir and his assertion that "jews rule the world".

President MAD George Bush would be Alfred E. Newman in disguise. Wait and see the laughs MAD Paul Krugman and MAD Mahatir have when they find out the world is really controlled by a bunch of shoddy jewish comedians in New York City. In next weeks episode we reveal which MAD character is undersecretary of Defense, MAD Paul Wolfowitz.

197 speedster1  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:40:58am

#54 OR and #55 Karski:

You guys owe me a new monitor and keyboard (I spewed my coffee reading your posts)... ROTFLMAO!

#58 Gordon:

I think some of the other posters are being a little rough on you. My first reaction was echoed (somewhere) above: Pat, et al, didn't call for the actors, director, theatres and movie-goers to be killed, which is pretty SOP for the Islamonazies.

OTOH, I don't think your post called for some of the body-slamming done above, either. It is a reasonable perspective that, whenever something controversial is produced (e.g. the Reagan miniseries, or Temptation, etc), it's bound to piss off somebody. IMO, the big diff is that (in general) non-Moooslims (and excepting Kim Il-Nutrcase) don't tend to call for actual death to the participants. That doesn't seem to me to be moral relativism.

198 sefton  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:41:06am

Y'all make me laugh.
YMUK,YMUK,YMUK.

199 Renna  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:41:46am

Apu RopMa - #185

And you will request five extra breaks every day to your boss to pray.


Does it matter what time these five prayers are? It seems to me that if they were evenly spaced, say 6, 10, 2, 6, and 10 or 7, 11, 3, 7, and 11, only 2 of the prayer times would need be during working or school hours.

200 Karski  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:42:38am

There was some corn in my morning mohammed the other day.

Eeeeewww!

201 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:44:39am

There was a Palestinian comic, Ray Hanania, who opened for Jackie Mason a coupe of years ago. Unfortunately his act bombed. The irony, huh?

202 Kelly  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:45:09am

With more parents like this we may not need arabs killing us to be on our last breth.

Girl dies in fire chained to her bed

203 sefton  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:45:29am

back later, Gotta go take a mohammed.
(hey that is kinda catchy).

204 BigBad  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:45:47am

Is this any worse than someone saying "What will the GOYIM say next about xyz"?

205 abu bin masturbatin  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:46:18am

Ah yes, I was wondering when someone was going to mention Seeman!

I'm hoping that the South Park guys will really ramp things up and have Mohammed (piss be onto him) in bed with Satan (or a pig or dog or anything really offensive to the ROP'ers)

206 scaramouche  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:47:30am

# 191 abu Big

Yes, but wait until you see my big production number, "Three Cheers for the Zionist Entity!"


# 196 Jonny

Great idea.

207 Deathberg  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:48:36am

Way OT: Serious enquiry - does anyone have bass tablatures or a MIDI file for Steely Dan's "West of Hollywood"?

208 ralph  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:48:45am

#188 jonny

319. (1) Every one who, by communicating statements in any public place, incites hatred against any identifiable group where such incitement is likely to lead to a breach of the peace is guilty of...
(2) Every one who, by communicating statements, other than in private conversation, wilfully promotes hatred against any identifiable group is guilty of...


[Link: laws.justice.gc.ca...]
Sounds like the typical sermon at Friday prayers at the mosque and the koran would qualify as a Hate Crime.

209 Barry  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:48:50am

#95 Halflife

You should read what Arafat and the PLO did in Lebanon from1972 till they were kicked out 10 years later. Funny but all those Europeans who find the Jews so terrible never said a word when the Lebanese Christians were being killed by Arafat.

210 James  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:49:37am

Why do some Muslims cheer every single act of violence?
Assalamu alaykum,

Through my discussions with other Muslims there appears to be a few amongst us who cheer every single act of violence in the Middle East or elsewhere claiming it to be "Jihad in the Way of Allah" regardless of target , method used or innocents killed.

Shouldn't every single act be judged on its merit?

When it is pointed out that so and so number of innocents may have died and that we should remember them in our Du'as as well, it is assumed by such people that they are somehow collaborators because otherwise they would not have been killed!

Perhaps, for example, those behind the Riyadh bombing were not Mujahideen but Shayateen!


Any comments?

[Link: forum.ymuk.net...]

211 Ed Moran:Yo naci en Flushing, Cd. Nueva York  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:50:12am

I was born within sight of Shea Stadium. My parents had lived in Jackson Heights, but joined the great migration of the pigmentally challenged to Massapequa when I was a child. I'm pretty sure I led the Massapequa Coast league one year in being hit by the pitch. I do remember the time I hit a genuine double, which was pretty rare, as I usually either struck out, walked, or got hit by the pitch. Massapequa was home to the Sunrise Mall, that had two pinball/video game arcades, and the worlds tiniest multiplex.

Anyway, after a brief sojourn through Massachusetts and Texas, I wound up in the US Navy, where I consumed mass quantities of adult beverages in Illinois, Orlando and Saratoga Springs, NY. I was lived in Saratoga Springs while stationed at the Naval Nuclear Power Training Unit, Ballston Spa. I consumed many Genesee Cream Ales, and learned of the Matt's Beer Ball. ( "You can count on Genny Taste, 'Cause its Brewed in Just One Place, Gene-seeing is Believing").

After that, I was sent to Reactor Controls Division, USS Chuck Boat (CVN-70) where I qualified as the #2 Plant Reactor Plant Operator. I really enjoyed shimming rods, and of course I loved the deep fast insertions. I was eventually promoted through sheer Naval negligence to the rank of Electronics Technician Second Class (E-5) before I finished my enlistment and got the hell back to ComNavSixPac. While serving aboard the Chuck, I consumed mass quantities in Africa, Australia, Hawaii, South Korea, Singapore, Diego Garcia, Hong Kong, Thailand and the Philippines. Only in Oman did I fail to consume mass quantities, as they weren't big on fun there. The Chuck Boat came within six hours of launching an "Alpha Strike" on Iran when we were in the Straits of Hormuz, but we didn't get to do it. I hated the Iranians. because they had nerve gas, we used to have to do "MOPP" drills, which involves wearing uncomfortable clothes, and sweating like a pig.

After a brief stint at Sky Chefs at the DFW airport, where I learned first hand that disgruntled Palestinians could easily smuggle weapons aboard American Airlines and Lufthansa flights, I attended the University of Texas, where the football team was making the transition from a truly sucky team ( losing games to TCU, for example) to a halfway decent team ( beating OU four years straight). Since I have graduated, they have gotten even better, except Oklahoma has really gotten even better, although if they keep Chance Mock on the sidelines next year at the Cotton Bowl, I think I like the 'Horns chances to break the horrid losing streak.

Anyway, graduated college with an engineering degree, logged offshore oil wells, got laid off, got a job with Halliburton that sent me to New Iberia, LA, met a fine Latina babe, couldn't get x-ferred back to Texas, quit, got a job here, and started making Irish-English-Apache-Jewish-Mexican babies.

My boss is at his house waiting for Sears to deliver a new washing machine, so I am taking a bit longer than usual internet break, to tell you about my relationship to beautiful Saratoga Springs, NY. Ah, Thursday nights, which was $1 Long Island Ice Tea Nights at Barclays, a bar that was in an old bank. Skiddie Kiddies at the Golden Grille. Fresh air, snow, mountains. if I ever get rich, I will have a house out in the woods near Saratoga Springs. I remember the Genesse Cream Ale ( see jingle, above), less than six dollars a case in 1984 dollars, nickle a bottle deposit, a quarter for the case itself. We always had enough empties around when funds were tight as the 15th and 30th approached to cash in for one final case of Gennies before payday. I remember my 1976 Chrysler Cordoba. I never got beyond second base with a woman there, but I still have fond memories of my seven months upstate.

212 Shaikh Yerbouti  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:50:21am

Fareed abd'Wilmaa's Offensive Blues

Oh I'm a poor Muslim
And I'm deeply offended
Yeah I'm a poor Muslim
And I'm deeply offended
I'd feel so much better
If freedom of speech was suspended.

213 ploome  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:50:45am

Kelly........

we can destroy ourselves.

all it needs is for good people to do nothing

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Several Latin American countries plan to follow Mexico's example by issuing consular identification cards to illegal immigrants in the United States, despite FBI warnings that the cards pose a security threat, officials said on Thursday.

why the hell not?

pretty soon Libya and Bangladesh will issue their own cards

214 AJ  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:52:54am

Muslims are always offended:

[Link: search.yahoo.com...]

We should not be PC, we should bomb during ramadan instead of risking troops.

215 Colt  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:53:45am

#78 ted

Thanks, that's interesting. And worrying.

216 Karski  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:55:05am

#203 sefton

Hell yeah!! Spread the word about the real mohammed!

217 Bill Jefferson  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:55:16am

By Muhammad's naked women, another thread on that board started by Amri2001 contains a death threat against GWB from another poster!

In other threads, Amir2001 decries the new UK Conservative Party leader, Howard, as a zionist, and objects to the Tate museum doing what art museum usually do: showing any art representing living things, least of all Muhammad's lolita (turns out it wasn't really her, though).

218 Ed Moran:Yo naci en Flushing, Cd. Nueva York  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:56:43am

Latest New York City area wind damage reports!

219 veebee  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:56:48am

#202

It's an atypical incident; the kind that produces wide condemnation in our society. I'm more worried about the territorial advance of the cultures where "honor" murder is not only accepted but required.

re: Arab humor.

They certainly don't have sense of humor the way we understand it: an ability to laugh at yourself. Self-mockery is a foundation of Jewish humor, and Jewish comedians are the industry standard. However, Arabs/Muslims do laugh. From what little I have seen, they usually have a taste for situational humor, and their laughter is usually directed at others. My guess is that it has something to do with the shame culture... May be somebody who actually read Patai's Arab Mind can tell us something about it.

220 HULUGU  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:57:26am

er...maybe they'd feel better if muhammid was depicted truthfully --with a sword in his hand and his dick in a nine year old girl

221 AJ  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 9:59:33am

#220

the truth is offensive also, it must be reworded in a more pleasant way.

222 Al-Hambra  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:00:07am

OK infidels I'm really pissed now.

Attn # 191, 192, 192, 194, 195, 196, 197 and 198: fatwa, fatwa, fatwa, fatwa, fatwa, fatwa, beheading, fatwa.

223 RightIsRight  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:00:14am

#128 Ed

I am about 35 miles outside NYC in lovely NJ. Intermitent power problems (computer restarted thrice today), small to medium branches down, much light airborne debris. House shingles are holding strong and not a single spotting of flying cement lawn ornaments.

224 James  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:02:26am

As far as I can see, the Arab/ Islamic problem is that they, like your average two year old, completely lack empathy.

225 b  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:02:37am

Saying 'pbuh' after each prophet is like a pavlovian reflex. It's really kind of creepy, to me.

How, as human beings, are we going to survive if our minds can so easily be washed and programmed?

The only remote chance we have is the law. We have to outlaw mind programming, religious or otherwise. And we must do away with the programmers.

226 b  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:03:48am

The entire muslim community needs a re-boot.

227 bill in tx  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:04:15am

#219 veebee

Or perhaps they follow what Vonnegut said, that the only real belly laugh is at someone else's expense.

b

228 AJ  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:04:38am

Three little pigs offensive to muslims
[Link: www.ananova.com...]

229 hans ze beeman  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:07:37am

Reminds me a bit (a bit) about the Simpson episode in Brasil; the (true) mayor of Rio actually complained to Groening that he depicted the city so badly and demanded an excuse. I think Groening offered a fist fight between Homer and Brasil's president or something...

You know what? I love the Simpson episode with ze Germans, it was spot on! Unfortunately I didn't yet see it in English, but in German only, which certainly diminishes the humor content ;)

The capability to laugh at youself shows you can distinguish between real life and satire. Those who can't are scary.

230 veebee  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:10:00am

#228 from the link:

But leading Muslims say there's nothing in their religious rules to stop children reading about pigs.

The word "pig" is in the Koran, in reference to Jews.

231 ploome  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:14:14am

oink

232 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:15:40am
233 K.  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:15:47am

#228 AJ

What a crock of M******d!

234 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:17:41am

Sorry, the link is screwed up.

235 LightTower  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:22:14am

#192 Yassar Datsmibebe (CUTE!)

"BTW: If Jesus and Moses are so sacred to Muslims, THEN WHY THE EFF DON'T THEY PAY ANY ATTENTION TO THEIR TEACHINGS !!!!! "

KUFR! Don't you know that all those teachings have been *corrupted*?!?

()()8^P

/fanatimam

Here--why should I be the only one to get seasick on the ups and downs of Islogic [sic]? ;^}

Disclaimer: I am not making any of these quotes up!

Warning: Readers of this comment may require multiple moonbat-sickness bags.

Fussilat - 41:41
Verily, those who disbelieved in the Reminder (i.e. the Qur'ân) when it came to them (shall receive the punishment). And verily, it is an honourable respected Book (because it is Allâh's Speech, and He has protected it from corruption, etc.).

Funny he couldn't protect the book *before* CE 600ish, eh?

This alleged corruption exists *despite* the following assurances of authenticity that is "suddenly" within allah's power:

Verily We: It is We Who have sent down the Dhikr (i.e. the Qur'ân) and surely, We will guard it (from corruption). (Al-Hijr - 15:9)

Falsehood cannot come to it from before it or behind it (it is) sent down by the All-Wise, Worthy of all praise (Allâh). (Fussilat 41:42)

The next sentence adds injury to insult:

Nothing is said to you (O Muhammad SAW) except what was said to the Messengers before you. Verily, your Lord is the Possessor of forgiveness, and (also) the Possessor of painful punishment. (Fussilat 41:43)

Now, who's at fault for this "corruption"? allah!, who stopped the fight before the "corrupted" could be destroyed. (What kind of assurance can *this* moon-g provide, again?)

Fussilat 41:45:
And indeed We gave Mûsa (Moses) the Scripture, but dispute arose therein. And had it not been for a Word that went forth before from your Lord, (the torment would have overtaken them) and the matter would have been settled between them. But truly, they are in grave doubt thereto (i.e. about the Qur'ân). [Tafsir Al-Qurtubi, Vol. 15, Page 370] (Fussilat 41:45)

He spiked his own revelation?!?!? Then he pumps up the paranoia:
Aali Imran - 3:118
O you who believe! Take not as (your) Bitânah (advisors, consultants, protectors, helpers, friends, etc.) those outside your religion (pagans, Jews, Christians, and hypocrites) since they will not fail to do their best to corrupt you. They desire to harm you severely. Hatred has already appeared from their mouths, but what their breasts conceal is far worse. Indeed We have made plain to you the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses) if you understand.

Here is a prime example of qu'ranic double-think (patent pending):

236 Jonny  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:22:37am

#206 scaramouche

Holy Muhamed! Funnier than Allah!

237 Let me be your Salman Rushdie  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:22:39am

Amir2001 writes:

* To ridicule the Prophet Muhammad is infinitely more hurtful to a Muslim than any insult that could be directed against them personally. The Qur'an says, "The prophet is closer to the believers than their own selves" (33:6).

Remember that next time you go into PBUH mode, guys. When you piss upon The Last Prophet, all Muslims get pissed as well in more ways than one. Now, that's what I'd call personal... BTW, do I get a free fatwah, or do I have to write a book as well?

238 Curious  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:27:41am

Scaramouche (190)

Love that idea of an Ape and Pig show!

There is a muslim comedienne - yes, a woman - who got a good few laughs at the Edinburgh festival, but I think it didn't go down too well with some muslim chauvinist men.

There was also a thing on TV about an American muslim comedian doing a double act with a rabbi in a mosque and a synagogue - must be very rare. Interestingly his humour was of the self-deprecating kind you normally associate with Jewish humour.

Of course both these comics were in the West - it's unlikely you'd get that kind of thing in Ryadh:

Swing low, sweet Sharia
Coming for to chop off your hand

Come Mr Taleban, tally me banana

etc

239 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:27:53am

Call me kooky. But I would really not want to end up as big Mo'.

240 Neo: I'll get you, Agent Smith  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:29:19am

Eternal torment be upon Mohammed, the false prophet.

Is that insulting enough?

241 Ed Moran:Yo naci en Flushing, Cd. Nueva York  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:32:55am

I don't believe in the Hindhu or Buddhist deities/gods, but I would never insult one. The average Hindu or Buddhist has no problem with me, I have no problem with them.


If the majority of Hindus thought their gods commanded them to kill non-believers, and blow up buses, and fly airliners into office buildings, then I'd probably start insulting their faith.

If the majority of Muslims start condemning suicide bombings, war against Israel, and the concepts of dhimmitude and jihad, then I'll show a little more respect to their god and prophets.

242 abu BIG  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:33:23am

Since you guys are insisting upon expanding this Muslim comedian thing, Danny Thomas and Jamie Farr are Lebanese. I'm not sure about their religion, but I did hear that Thomas spoke Yiddish better than most Jews.

243 abu BIG  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:36:23am

#241 Ed Moran:Yo naci en Flushing, Cd. Nueva York

I don't know Ed. We have a couple of Hindus here at work and they seem to find this sect of their religion somewhat humorous.

[Link: www.gunn.co.nz...]

244 Devon Hill  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:36:30am

To be fair to Gord he has a point..........the Last Temptation and Life of Brian were deeply offensive to Christians.........but as a Christian, I have to admit Life of Brian did have some real funny parts........'bigith dicketh' comes to mind......

However what Gord does not tell us, throughout all the worlds , the Christians protesting never advocated killing anyone and no one was hurt in all the protests........

The Muslims will threaten and kill over any ridicule of Islam which is an Islamic teaching in the Hadiths....


Yes some of SouthPark's stuff is deeply offensive to Christians.......they do it often........but note that not one Christian has threatened Trey Stone with death or maiming..........

Also this episode is like so old.........I can't imagine what Muslims thought of the Bin Ladin episode......there was some real mockery in there ..............


And yes, South Park does also have some searing humour and I do enjoy there knocks at the left.....


Devonator

245 fred from AL  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:36:30am

#225 b

The only remote chance we have is the law. We have to outlaw mind programming, religious or otherwise. And we must do away with the programmers.

I know folks are going to get tires of me banging the drum, but the brainwashing has to be done in childhood.

The Childhood Origins of Terrorism

Somehow people have to be convinced of the damage they are doing. For so many Muslims the first step is for them to admit to themselves what miserable people they are. We are a looong way from that.

246 LightTower  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:37:16am

#210 James 11/13/2003 11:49AM PST

Why do some Muslims cheer every single act of violence?

Same as any other mixed bag of people: different reasons. Here are some

Hatered (especially of the "other" or "outsider")
Fear (*Anyone* else, just to keep anyone from noticing *my* sins)
Insanity
Brainwashing
Cultural conditioning
Conditioned response
Unthinking, conditioned rage
Social expectations of the ingroup ("thought police")
Stupidity
Ignorance (yes, this is different from stupidity--ignorance can be cured)

247 justdanny  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:37:37am

Danny Thomas's real name was Amos Jacobs

248 kayawanee  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:37:37am

#241 Ed Moran:Yo naci en Flushing, Cd. Nueva York

If the majority of Muslims start condemning suicide bombings, war against Israel, and the concepts of dhimmitude and jihad, then I'll show a little more respect to their god and prophets.

Zactly!!!

Born in Flushing? Still there?

249 aaron's rantblog  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:40:40am

That's not mockery. THIS is mockery!

250 Ed Moran:Yo naci en Flushing, Cd. Nueva York  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:43:37am

Danny Thomas was a Christian (probably either Catholic or Maronite).


He is the one who established the St. Jude's Children Hospital.

Catholics believe that St. Jude is the patron saint of difficult causes.

St. Jude was also Jesus' cousin.

251 Paul  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:43:51am

One step at a time; today the Muslims issue a letter of protest and then maybe they'll picket or boycott. When they feel stronger and safer, they'll issue a fatwa calling for the death of the kuffars.

P.S. to Ed #218. Were you really born in Flushing, Queens?

252 James  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:44:03am

#246 LightTower

Just to clarify, those words weren't mine. It was a post on an Islamic web site, by a Muslim. Basically he was asking why fellow Muslims on that web site cheer every act of violence in the Middle East even when it kills Muslims, referring specifically to the recent bombing in Saudi Arabia.

If you click the link I provided in #210 you'll see that the answer ranges from "uhmmm" to "well we don't know who did that bombing". In other words, the question posed in that post has 'em stumped. Why do they celebrate even when Arabs and Muslims are bombed by other Arabs and Muslims? It seems as if they fetishize violence as long as its Muslims doing the violence, no matter who gets hurt.

253 fred from AL  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:44:14am

#235

ISLOGIC - Great word! Is it original or have I just missed it before?

One of those words that needs no definition, like LLL or idiotarian.

254 Ed Moran:Yo naci en Flushing, Cd. Nueva York  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:45:44am

Haven't been to Flushing in years, although I did fly into LaGaurdia airport about ten years ago to visit the aunties out on the island.

255 Curious  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:45:53am

Devon Hill

Personally I think the Life of Brian is one of the funniest films ever made. Many really devout Christians are not offended by it.

Humour would be a wonderful way of diffusing the Islamonazi tendency. But would a shame/honour culture like the Arab's be able to laugh at itself? And in such a macho culture, will they learn to let women pull their leg?

One major reason the Islamic world is so screwed up is their attitude to women. This gives the men a false sense of their own importance and worth, because the women have to respect them even if they are not worthy of respect.

Another is the inability to laugh at themselves. A sense of humour is a sense of proportion, and, by implication, an understanding of what really matters. That is why Islamonazis and humorless PC lefties both can't see that a cartoon character is not worth getting worked up about, but a suicide bomber is.

256 LightTower  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:46:18am

#242 abu BIG

Most Lebanese in America are Christians. That's why they (or their ancestors) had to flee to America in the first place, nu?

(Getting Syrians about religion....)

257 Avi  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:46:29am

James,

Check your email :)

258 Colt  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:47:37am

OT - EU and terrorism

Now, I knew that the EU was on the PLO's side. I knew that EU funds had been used for terrorism, and that the EU didn't really care enough to investigate. We all remember Patten talking about needing a hole in the head...

But German MEP Ilka Schröder, and Wiesenthal Center International Liaison Director, Shimon Samuels, recently testified at the British Parliament's International Development Committee Hearing on "Development Assistance and the Occupied Palestinian Territories".

Ms. Schröder, who had led a campaign for transparency, presented evidence of the paper trail of EU funding to the Palestine Authority being misappropriated for incitement to Jew-hatred and terrorism.
One of these documents was an order by the PLO Fatah-related Al Aqsa Martyr Brigades for 30,000 M-16 and 3,000 Kalashnikov bullets at 40 cents each. The Al Aqsa Brigades have claimed responsibility for some of the most devastating suicide bombings and this document is only a tiny indication of EU, ostensibly humanitarian, funds used for the indiscriminate killing of Israeli civilians.

Schröder and Samuels were lambasted about the abuses of Palestinian rights, of course. But not one of the Committee members asked about antisemitism or PA wrongs.

MEP Schröder concluded that the character of the inquiry puts the Mother of Parliaments in complicity with the EU's cover-up. "This was an exercise that did nothing for transparency, nor to correct the irregularities that result in contribution by the British taxpayer to Arafat's bank accounts."
"The Committee's lack of response was a measure of its concern," declared Samuels.

WIESENTHAL CENTER TESTIFIES IN BRITISH PARLIAMENT ON EU FUNDING OF TERROR

259 Flaming Sword  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:47:49am

#225 b

"We have to outlaw mind programming, religious or otherwise. And we must do away with the programmers."

I don't think I'm prepared to let that *slide* through without pointing out a few things. ALL children are "programmed" to some degree. And there have been PLENTY of "programmed" kids who were raised Jewish, Christian, Hindu, etc. who lived out wonderful lives and greatly improved the human condition.

So, no, I don't think I agree with that statement at all. If you wish to make the case that radical Islamic "programming" is barbaric and inhuman, then we can combat that side-by-side, but I can't support your idea to throw out the baby with the bath water.

260 Ed Moran:Si, Verdad, Yo naci en Flushing,  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:47:54am

Yes, I was really born in Flushing, NY NY

261 justdanny  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:49:34am

Danny Thomas was not Lebanese. He was an American.

262 HULUGU  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:51:54am

whatayamean--they have no sense of humor--the kkkoran is the funniest book i ever read--its the source material for our poster in arms--allah--who always makes me feel wet in my pants with his islogical wit--just because it says its ok to kill or enslave anybody who doesn't submit to the one true faith doesn't mean its not jolly, jokey and full of yocks--its the dr. strangelove of religious scripture--obviosly written by some desert phillip roth--lighten up kufrs --you are harshing my mellow :-]

263 Colt  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:52:27am

Here's the House of Commons page on the committee meeting mentioned in #258.

Link.

264 m12edit  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:54:35am

"freedom of choice, is what you got...freedom from choice, is what you want..."

-Devo

Uhm, last time I checked...we have freedom OF speech and freedom OF religion in this country...

memo to channel 4, don't listen to the Muslim callers anyway, any good Muslim is not part of your current demographic anyway as they wouldn't be watching South Park even before the Super Best Friends episode...which was really funny. So there.

265 LightTower  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:55:27am

#252 James

No offense intended--I was just answering the question with real answers (alas).

#253 fred from AL

Thank you.

AFAIK, Islogic is original, for the very reason you cited. I've read too much consecutive qu'ran text to believe any other way....

8^{

*^P

>^O " " '

:^}

I also mutated "werewoof" from the post-defeat Natzi "werewolf" guerrilla fighters--kinda implies baying at the moon-god, if you get my drift....

266 alex dee  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:57:08am

i thought only infidels watch this kind of stuff
bet you those same guys are watching gay porn to check for offending passages too

267 Jonny  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:59:52am

#224 Devon Hill,

'bigith dicketh' comes to mind......

No pun intended?

268 Ed Moran:Si, Verdad, Yo naci en Flushing,  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:04:01am

Danny Thomas-

Danny Thomas

Producer, Actor
Born: January 6, 1912 in Deerfield, MI
Died: February 6, 1991 in Beverly Hills, CA


Born Muzyad Yakhoob, he began his show biz career in 1932 as a singer at a Detroit radio station; he began performing as an MC-comedian in nightclubs in 1938 and gradually gained popularity and national recognition over the next decade.

269 justdanny (abu i know dannys)  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:04:42am

His birth name was Muzyad Yahkoob.

270 abu BIG  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:07:41am

I'm not doing a web search. Just please tell me if Danny Thomas is of Lebanese descent?

271 Ed Moran: Abu Muzyad Yakhoob  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:08:47am

One to three inches of snow possible on the road course at Watkins Glen, NY, where just a little over 3 months ago the RCR Cingular #31 Chevrolet Monte Carlo was really heating up the track.

272 justdanny  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:09:57am

There are around six thousand Danny Thomases in the U.S.

;p jinx

273 James  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:12:19am

#270

He is of Lebanese descent.

274 abu BIG  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:12:23am

Enough with the Danny. Let's talk about Marlo!

275 justdanny (abu shush)  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:12:50am

#270 abu BIG

Neither am I. And yes he was.

276 ND MN TX  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:15:39am

Wasn't Marlo Palestinian?


:-)

277 b  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:15:40am

#245

I know folks are going to get tires of me banging the drum, but the brainwashing has to be done in childhood.


What about the two snipers? They seem to have been converts after reaching adulthood?

And the Buffalo cell were all somewhat normal children who got swept up after they were out of highschool.

I think we are more fragile than we realize to programmers.

How about Islamagic? That sort of sums up their world view for me.

Religions cause dark ages. And religious people seem to have no idea that they are programmed. Once you let anything into your mind on faith, without any evidence or proof, it seems to corrupt the entire mechanism. And you can get people to do dastardly things to themselves and others.

Looks like it has come down to 'embrace reason and logic' or die time. And to think that it was the muslims who copied Aristotle and the greeks' books and preserved them. History is forever ironic.

278 Capt. Queeg  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:17:44am
279 andrew  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:18:23am

b
Aristotle was a believer.

280 kayawanee  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:18:24am

#271 Ed Moran: Abu Muzyad Yakhoob

One to three inches of snow possible on the road course at Watkins Glen, NY, where just a little over 3 months ago the RCR Cingular #31 Chevrolet Monte Carlo was really heating up the track.

So do you live in upstate NY or western NY, or do you just love tracking NYState weather? ;)

281 HULUGU  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:20:44am

good evening gentlemen and gentlemen....there was these two jihadis and one bombelt...a sunni, a shite and an ismali walk into a coffeehouse--take my wives, please--what are you an audience or a calligraphy--a mullah walks into a teahouse with a small goat on his shoulder--the fellaheen says sure you can stay but you have to sleep wth one of my sheep--i really like medina,but the people here drive so crazy --thank yeeew,mecca,g'nite

282 ND MN TX  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:21:39am

Yeah Ed.... 'sup with all the fanaticism on weather all over the place for a guy in Houston?

283 veebee  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:23:58am

b

Most Muslims are not converts, and the most extreme of them tend to be Arabs. In the US most converts were converted in prisons, so perhaps there was some questionable conditioning going on with them already. You are right to say that perhaps there is something aobut Islam that brings up the worst in people. However, I would stop there I not involve other religions. Because, you know, Christianity did not cause the dark ages, the fall of Rome did. Err... you can say that Christianity was a contributing cause to the fall of Rome, since it promoted meekness in Roman would-be warriors, but that's a whole different story.

284 Rick Z  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:24:23am

# 282 ND MN TX :

Must be Ed's nostalgia for snow. Houston only has two kinds of weather: Summer and simmer.

285 abu bin masturbatin  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:27:40am

Yes, Life of Brian does have some offensive parts to Christians. Several times I turned it off - turned the channel when I was younger and more brainwashed.

But I've watched it through a couple of times over the years and I really like the name

Incontentia Buttocks

286 Paul  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:28:27am

#260 Ed Moran

I was born in College Point (right across Flushing Bay from LaGuardia Airport) and moved to Levittown as part of the great suburban migration. My only claim to fame is that I went to parochial school with Bill O'Reilly back in the 50s.

287 Flaming Sword  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:29:09am

#277 b

"Religions cause dark ages. And religious people seem to have no idea that they are programmed. Once you let anything into your mind on faith, without any evidence or proof, it seems to corrupt the entire mechanism. And you can get people to do dastardly things to themselves and others.

Looks like it has come down to 'embrace reason and logic' or die time."

NO.

You have the same *fervor* and *zeal* in your anti-religious beliefs as those "dangerous" religious folks do. You are so blinded by your "My way or the highway" belief system that you cannot even see that you have replaced traditional religion with a substitute (blind pursuit of "logic", "secularism", "atheism"--I'm not sure what "tag" to attach to your zeal yet) that (in your case) can be just as intollerant.


Looks like your own "programming" needs to be addressed.

288 donna  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:29:46am

Why do they care if Jesus is slandered? That's really funny, seeing that followers of Islam deny Jesus every day. They claim Jesus was a prophet, like Mohammed, and that prophets don't lie. Jesus said that he is the way, the truth, and the life, so denying it gives them one "King"-sized headache if you ask me.

289 justdanny (abu #8 is great)  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:29:51am

Oh.
I forgot.

RoPMA !!!

290 kayawanee  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:30:40am

#285 abu bin masturbatin

Yes, Life of Brian does have some offensive parts to Christians. Several times I turned it off - turned the channel when I was younger and more brainwashed. But I've watched it through a couple of times over the years and I really like the name Incontentia Buttocks

Can't forget Biggus Dickus. Did I say something funny. How come whenever I mention my friend's name, Biggus Dickus, you all start laughing?

291 robert e lee  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:31:49am

i've been dozing. what is all this about. the wind? the wind blowing away something?

292 Flaming Sword  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:32:43am

#291

Don't forget "Woodolf the wed-nosed weindeer!"

293 JOEY  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:33:12am

If there are no "official" pictorial renderings of Mo, then it must be assumed that there are no Muslims who know what Mo looked like.

How is it then that these cry babys are claiming (with authority mind you) that the cartoons in question are in fact representations of Mo?

Forgive me if I'm full of it but wasn't Jesus a Jew? What stock can any person with a mind put in their claims of adoration for this Jew? Where in Jesus' list of things to aspire to does he mention hatred, lust for death and murder of the wives and daughters who have offended you as something to be embraced by well meaning humans? What is it exactly that they so adore about their beloved prophet Jesus?

I think this sudden respect and love for Jesus is merely a slyly concocted artifice by means of which they plan to garner ill deserved respect from those whom they have professed to hate on principle.

294 Flaming Sword  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:34:11am

Oops! Previous post should have been:

#290

Don't forget "Woodolf the wed-nosed weindeer!"

295 ND MN TX  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:34:22am

Rick Z .....the hell with the snow, the last winter I spent in North Dakota it never got above zero from the middle of January past the middle of February. Contrary to popular belief, here in Houston , we do have 4 seasons, it should be down to about 45 F tonight.

296 Colt  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:38:57am

#293 JOEY

If there are no "official" pictorial renderings of Mo, then it must be assumed that there are no Muslims who know what Mo looked like.

Which gives me an idea for a movie. Anyone else here seen "Dogma"? A Kevin Smith movie. Anyway, in the movie, we are told by the 13th apostle (Chris Rock) that Jesus was actually black.

Perhaps we need a similar movie about Islam? :-)

297 Rick Z  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:40:12am

# 295 ND MN TX:

Well, I now live in Ed's very younger days stomping grounds, Jackson Heights. Only 4 stops from Shea, and '86 is still a great year around the 'hood. We used to get snow, which is why I moved up from the boring south. Now it's either 18 inches of the white stuff, or nothin'. Sorta depressing.

298 Jonny  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:42:31am

We had our first snow in Toronto today. I looked out the window and took the day off.

299 John C  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:43:22am

b, you may find this interesting
how-to

300 placebo  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:44:24am

OT but.. [Link: www.worldtribune.com...]

301 wunder-kuffar  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:45:27am

This is kinda OT but does anyone here know of an online store that might sell some sort of smart-ass shirt that says something along the lines of "Proud Kuffar Infidel!" or something? ;)

302 scaramouche  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:49:21am

#293 Joey

They don't venerate Jesus as a Jew or as God or as anything other than another Muslim. Yep, that's right, Abraham, Moses, Jesus--all Muslims, even if they weren't unaware of it at the time. In this way, they blow a raspberry to--and demean--the two monotheistic faiths that preceeded them. It's as if Judaism and Christianity didn't even exist. Then they throw these "people of the book" the bone of dhimmitude--"we won't kill you outright; you can live as second class citizens within our society." That's the only recognition they have ever accorded us, and it comes at the cost of appropriating our most reverred personages.

304 zulubaby  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:51:30am

Since we're discussing the weather, I got caught in this storm yesterday. It was wild! (Loved it :-)

305 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:54:30am

#301 wunder-kuffar

one
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Search around that site for more. I am sure they have some.

306 Jonny  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:57:06am

#303 J. D.

A friend of mine had a South Park DVD he got from Malaysia. I think it was the uncensored version, because Cartman was spewing more than his usual hatred towards Kyle (the jew). It was like a normal episode of South Park, but Carman was kelly Kyle a stupid fucking jew ever two minutes. The Malaysians really got a laugh out of it.

307 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:57:14am

#301 wunder-kuffar

This one is pretty sweet.

308 Chana  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 11:57:45am

This may be offensive (what differerence does that make - nobody is going to read down this far) but we sometimes refer to large dangerous kitchen knives as "Allahu Akbars". As in, "wow, be careful with that knife - that's a real allahu akbar".

And in Hebrew, if you change the pronunciation just a tiny bit you say "Allah is a mouse" instead of "Allah is great".

309 JOEY  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:04:30pm

#302 Scaramouche


I saw a TV special on Islam in which various zealots claimed that everyone (in the world) is born a Muslim and only through non-adherence to the strict tenets of Musliminsanityhood does one lose the benefit of this inate insulation from Allah's fiery finger and become a non-Mus.

310 Jonny  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:07:26pm

#308 Chana,

Allah is a mouse

Allah is in the house.

311 wunder-kuffar  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:08:05pm

Right Wing Conspirator. Thanks! :) those are awesome. I should have thought to check that site.

312 Jonny  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:08:57pm

#303 J. D.

They look like the South Park characters from the "evil parallel universe".

313 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:09:29pm

The screech-weasels are protesting south park? *sigh* I'm going back to bed

314 scaramouche  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:09:46pm

#309

So humanity's default button is set on "Muslim".

315 justdanny (abu absalom)  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:10:20pm

#304 zulubaby

Good for you !! Ever lived in a snowy environment ?

316 Ed Moran: Abu Muzyad Yakhoob  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:12:17pm

Do not doubt that we have brutal winters here in Houston. It was less than fourteen years ago that our last snowfall, 1.7" devastated the city.


Even though Houston is the same latitude as Eilat, Israel or Kuwait City, we can have brutal outbreaks of winter weather, as there is nothing to stop the howling arctic winds rushing down from the North Pole but barb wire fences.

The day after Houstons last blizzard in December 1989, the mercury dropped to an incredibly bitter 7F (-14C).


Houston has all four seasons. You're thinking of Los Angeles, which has only two seasons, Fire Season and Flood Season.

317 HULUGU  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:14:04pm

#308--chana--'round these parts we say--allahu nakba--allah is a catastrophy

318 b  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:14:38pm
He further stated that the attack will be carried out in a way that will "amaze the world and turn Al Qaida into [an organization that] horrifies the world until the law of Allah is implemented, actually implemented, and not just in words, on His land... You wait and see that the balance of power between Al Qaida and its rivals will change, all of a sudden, Allah willing."

more seething religious people


This is the end result of religion, take a good look folks.

319 Chana  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:16:10pm

#310 Jonny

Um..is that English? Whew.

I must be getting old (I *know* I am getting old).

320 Clutch  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:16:34pm

"Masturbatin' Mohammed onna moped!! Didja see the rack on that one?!?"

"By the Prophet's pickled pecker, that was a good shag!!!"

"By Allah's ball-less butt, you kids get outta my yard!!"

-couple of other examples to use the Prophet (BLTbuh)'d namer more appropriately...

321 andrew  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:16:59pm
This is the end result of religion, take a good look folks

This is the end result of islamofascism.

322 danholo  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:17:31pm

Umm.. Us Jews also use "bigoted hate speech" to describe non-Jews - goyim.

323 Biggus Dickus  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:18:22pm

What's the highest number of comments on a topic here?


I know the "When is Yassar going to die" threads got pretty big.

Seems like we enjoy this topic.

324 scaramouche  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:19:33pm

# 318

It's not the end result of all religion. Only the one that marries blind obedience to fascist doctrine.

325 zulubaby  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:19:41pm

justdanny (#315)

Ever lived in a snowy environment ?

Yes, London and New York. Snowy enough for me ;-) In summer in South Africa, there are thunderstorms everyday. I miss that a lot, living in Los Angeles. Yesterday was magical for me! I love the drama of the thunder and lightening.

326 Rich  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:20:46pm

Well I sent a message to Channel 4 like they asked.

"Really enjoyed Southpark the other night, keep up the good work"

327 Rick Z  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:22:19pm

# 322 danholo:

I guess I'm lucky. My seatmates in my Ranger$ season ticket group call me "the hockey shabat boy." I get the all the Friday night and Saturday afternoon tickets!

328 Curious  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:22:50pm

Arab/muslim comedians are in short supply. Come to think about it, are there any FRENCH comedians?

Mais non.

Coincidence?

Germans? Well there's that joke about a German couple in a car. Girl says to her boyfriend 'Vot esss dat snake ssing on ze vindow. Boyfriend replies, 'Do not vorry. Zat eess only ze vindscreen viper'.

329 Adam  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:22:58pm

What makes anyone think that Americans are particularly sensitive to Muslim issues in the first place? Most good jokes offend someone, or make fun of them. I can laugh at jokes directed at me. Get a life you Muslim loosers; all the phone calls and e-mails in the world to channel 4 won't boot South Park off the air, because it's funny.

I'm of the opinion that we should eject most of the Muslim's from America. How's that for offensive.

330 Flaming Sword  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:24:47pm

#318 b

"This is the end result of religion, take a good look folks."

NO.

This is the end result of FANATICISM. You're mighty fanatic yourself as I pointed out earlier in post #287, but evidently you lack the courage to address the problems in your own "programming".

331 Let's Roll  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:26:10pm

OT -- WTF?

Briton charged with breach of secrecy law

LONDON, Nov. 13 — A former translator at Britain's top secret global eavesdropping centre was charged on Thursday with breaking the Official Secrets Act, police said.

Katharine Teresa Gun, 29, was arrested in March at a time when reports were circulating that a top secret memo from the U.S. National Security Agency had been leaked to a British newspaper.

She was formally charged on Thursday with breaking the secrets law on security and intelligence leaks and released on bail to appear at London's Bow Street Magistrates' Court on November 27.

Gun later issued a statement through civil rights lawyers Liberty saying any disclosures she made were justified because "they exposed serious illegality and wrongdoing on the part of the U.S. government who attempted to subvert our own security services and to prevent widescale death and casualties among ordinary Iraqi people and UK forces in the course of an illegal war," she said.

"I have only ever followed my conscience."

A spokesman for Government Communications Headquarters (GCHQ) in Cheltenham in western England confirmed that Gun had been a GCHQ employee at the time of her arrest, but said she had been sacked shortly afterwards.

"She was dismissed in June after an internal investigation," he told Reuters by telephone. He declined further comment.

332 Chana  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:27:17pm

#316 Ed abu Thomas

You can tell when it is summer in Houston - that's when the air-conditioning plus ceiling fans almost manage to cool off the house.

Tell us all about cold Houston winters - I once arrived in Houston in the middle of winter (everyone had warned me it was cold) - I showed up in wool and the locals were walking around in shorts.

Then I tried to buy a winter coat to go to Canada - someone found a zip-up sweatshirt and told me it was a winter coat.

333 Ratbert  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:27:24pm

>To Muslims it is very important never to make any
>pictorial representations of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh)

Well, I might care were I a Mooooslim. Do us all a favor and keep the rest of us out of your kooky religion death cult.

334 Nancy  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:27:27pm

I moniter this forum regularily and they take offense at just about everything.

335 James  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:28:37pm

#322 danholo

Umm.. Us Jews also use "bigoted hate speech" to describe non-Jews - goyim.

Umm, "goyim" (lit. nations) mean "non-Jews" in Hebrew. If it's "bigoted hate speech" to speak Hebrew than I guess we're guilty as charged.

336 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:30:15pm

#303 J.D. aka Polly Prissypants

Thanks. One less gift I have to buy.

337 ploome  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:30:20pm

334 Nancy

I take offense at that!

338 bill in tx  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:34:51pm

I'll leave you with this example of Jewish self-reflecting humor:

"All cultures have an age at which they believe a fetus is viable. In the Jewish culture, it's when it graduates from medical school."

Badda-boom

Thank you, thank you, I'll be here all week. Don't forget your waitress, she works for tips.

b

339 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:35:34pm

#337 ploome

I take offense at that!


I am offended that your offended.
#331 Let's Roll

WTF indeed? When did the British intelligence services start hiring ISM'ers and people from ANSWER.

340 Ed Moran: Abu Muzyad Yakhoob  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:37:20pm

What sucked about growing up on Long Island and going to St. Martin of Tours Catholic school in Amityville, NY was 1) most snowstorms on the island turn to rain before enough snow accumulates to cancel school and 2) in marginal situations ( say 3-5" of snow) the public schools would get snow days and we wouldn't.


Now 1978 brings back great memories for me. ( BTW, my wife got me Paul Kocin's masterpiece, "Snowstorms of the Northeastern U.S. 1955-1985" as a Christmas present last year which has both of my 1978 storms described).

In January 1978 I went to bed, it was snowing hard, but Dr. Frank Fields and "Tex" Antoine ( soon to be fired for telling rape jokes during the weathercast) assured us that soon the east-northeast fetch over the 4C Atlantic waters would do its dirty work. However, as I slept, the storm stayed just a shade more offshore than predicted, the winds never backed from northeast, and when I woke up, no school, 13" of wet snow.


Even more memorable was the 5 straight days of school I missed during the Blizzard of February 1978. Over two feet of snow fell, and major tidal flooding drove sea water up into the storm drains in front of our house, making the snow a green color there.
Homes from Fire Island, NY to Revere, MA were destroyed by the storm surge.
( I recommend doing the entire slide show)

341 Paul (now living in the frozen tundra)  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:37:43pm

#316 Ed Moran (ex-Flushingite)

Didn't Houston have a major flood of its own a cople of years ago. I seem to remember a tropical storm named
Allison.

342 Curious  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:38:25pm

How do you know Jesus was Jewish?

He went into the family business, he didn't leave home until he was in his thirties, he thought his mother was a virgin and his father was God.

How do you know Muhammad was a muslim?

No... doesn't really work.

343 jimmytheclaw  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:39:03pm

#185 Abu Ropma 11/13/2003 11:26AM PST

shouldnt that be the intergalactic joosiniki cabal from the episode where earth was a reality show

344 Potise  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:39:13pm

What's Muhammad PBUA?

Piss be upon him?

345 K.  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:39:41pm

#322 danholo

Umm.. Us Jews also use "bigoted hate speech" to describe non-Jews - goyim.

Umm... you don't know what you're talking about, do you? There are no negative connotations in the word "goy." The word doesn't describe non-Jews, it denotes non-Jews.

I don't think the word "kuffar" is "bigoted hate speech" either.

346 Chana  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:41:12pm

This was fun but I am Time Zone Challenged, and it is past my bedtime.

Btw, "kaffir" in Arabic has the same meaning as in Hebrew - heretic, non-believer. It is a strong word - not like "agnostic".

The word "goyim" means "nations". And "goy" (singular) is also used to refer to Jews, as in "goy kadosh" - "holy people".

347 veebee  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:41:40pm

Is "foreigner" a hateword, too?

348 Nancy  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:42:22pm

By the way when I said I moniter "this forum" above I meant YMUK --

Before anyone concludes I am implying LGF takes offense ---NO --YMUK does.

349 zulubaby  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:42:52pm

K. (#345)

I don't think the word "kuffar" is "bigoted hate speech" either.

In South Africa it most certainly is a terribly racist term (although it's not spelled the same way).

350 Rayra of the Muchos Nombres  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:43:18pm

Southpark needs an episode about the day CAIR comes to town - have them seeth every 90seconds about some imagined insult, be rude to the female mayor, overtake the school system and turn it into a madrassa, have a crowd of mumbling clerics decend on random hotties and beat them with sticks, kill Kyle for being of the Joo, and turn the beautiful snow-covered mountains of Southpark CO into a tractless desert.
That's a lot to stuff into 23mins of animation, Mohammedammit.

351 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:45:23pm

LGF got a hat tip (sorta) in today's "Best of the Web" (Taranto, Opinion Journal):

[Link: www.opinionjournal.com...]

Search for the words... "Rachel Corrie"!

352 scaramouche  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:49:15pm

#345 K.

[Link: www.usc.edu...]

353 Chana  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:49:24pm

My _American Heritage Dictionary_ says that kaffir is pejorative while "goy" is "sometimes used disparagingly".

And the African "kaffir" is referring to a local Bantu tribe.

Go argue with the dictionary.

354 Potsie  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:50:06pm

Goy is not a bigoted name,Its proper translation is Gentile I think,The word Kuffar,is like the Word Koffer in Hebrew. and is not quite the same.

355 sefton  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:50:09pm

350 comments about South Park?
Holy effin' mohammed!!!

356 Salman Rushdie  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:50:53pm

[Link: forum.ymuk.net...]

Mussa
Active Member

Registered: Oct 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 1951
Dhimmi
Assuming a (partial) Khalifa were ever to be established and the subsequent rejection of Western ideals of Freedom - what do you think it would take to intergrate Dhimmi peacefully into the new order?

Mujadidah
Moderator

Registered: Nov 2000
Location: back in land of the Scots!
Posts: 1772
well i think that obviously u dont want to suddenly land people into situations...we should be educating the masses now in preparation for the time when muslims will be in charge...and wen that time comes, inshaAllah the dhimmi system will seem natural and acceptable...

357 lizzy  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:50:53pm

hi all
first of all, i absolutely love south park, and watch it here on "bip". the hub and i usually laugh so hard the kids come in to see, andwe have to turn it off and sheepishly explain that yes its a cartoon one, but not suitable for kids..
however, and again, i dont want to play devils advocate, and i do think that the guy that wrote this letter is a prissy pain in the ass.. BUT
do you know, here in Jerusalem, ultra orthodox have been known to come into my mainly secular neighbourhood of kirat yovel, and paint sleeves on women's arms in bus stop shelter adverts? on the " little mermaid" Disney adverts a few years back, they climbed onto the advertising sighs( in lit boxes on poles in the middle of traffic islands in Jerusalem) and painted out the mermaids arms and tail - tush.. i wont air our national dirty laundry in front of you all, , as i consider it more a " family affair' for us in Israel to fume over, but therefore this southpark thing didn't phase me. channel four will undoubtedly ignore it anyway, the same as bbc ignored my letters protesting their broadcasting.
however, and here i may get a bit preachy so dont lose it with me, .. my girls go to the givat gonen school in Jerusalem, which is a public magnet school which is meant to promote tolerance among Jerusalem kids,,
[Link: www.jerusalemfoundation.org...]
its in a very poor rough area of Jerusalem , ( Pat-) and runs form first grade all the way to the last greade before the army,12th
it integrates the neighbourhood kids, and kids form other neighbourhoods. this year, a new family of two little girls entered the school, one in edens class( 7th grade) her name is amira, and she's a Muslim Arab from the Abu tor neighbourhood of Jerusalem.. i think they are among the only Arab- Muslim kids , if not the only , kids in the school.. they are incredible little girls( and very brave !!!!!) Eden is amiras buddy, and is impressed that amira is fasting for Ramadan( although Amira is embarrassed to tell the other kids) amira is a beautiful little girl, dressing exactly like any other Israeli 7th grader,but i must say alot more respctful and polite, lololo!!!! very gently, sweet, smart, and sophisticated. she loves the same music Eden loves,same tv, movies etc, and after Ramadan, will meet Eden and Inbal, another friend form school for a girly jaunt in the mall" . today i met them coming out of home Economics class, each girl with a jar of salsa they had made in class,, Eden was dipping hers with bisli( a savoury) munching ludly and saying mmmmmmm and offering it to everyone,, amira walked with her , chatting , and was not put out at all by the food being munched in her face.. her grace, and composure was so cool for a 12 year old.
im proud my Eden has her for a friend.im proud that amira has volunteered to come ot an israeli school.
now before any of you attack me for being" loony left " etc, know that i have lost neighbours and former students in terrorist bus bombing(one was in front of the school itself,), i was a female soldier in my long gone youth , in the israeli army( 1985-87) and live in one fo the " hottest" areas on earth, jerusalem. however, i cannot bring myself to blindly hate Muslims. i hate religious fanatics . of all religions.. i abhor them.. but i i would like to think that the tolerance and good natured inteterest in children such as my girl, Amira, and the rest of the 7th graders , and many many others here in Israel, maybe we can have some kind of future together,, neither one of our peoples are going anywhere.

358 Ed Moran: Abu Muzyad Yakhoob  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:52:49pm

Chana

Let me tell you a true Bitter cold Houston winter story.

This past March, the temperature was forecast to drop to about 28F (-2C), the coldest of the winter.

I went out in the yard to wrap my Washingtonia Robustas, better known as the Mexican Fantail Palm tree. Although they are one of the more cold tolerant species of palm, I thought it prudent to wrap them. (BTW, a properly cared for W. Robusta can grow over a foot a year and reach heights of 60 feet).

I discovered what I first thought was part of a giant snake burrowed into the mulch by the palm in the back. I touched it with a shovel handle and discovered it was the shell of a turtle about the size of a dinner plate. I called my wife out to look, we agreed it was probably just trying to get warm, so we made sure our tree wrap covered it.

A few days later, when I was sure the cold weather was passed, I unwrapped my palm. The turtle was still there. I was starting to think he/she was dead, but one day I discovered it on the other side of my yard. My Acadian friends from back in Louisiana were telling me to eat it, but I prefer my meat already dead and packaged in shrink wrap.

The turtle kept burrowing into the mulch by that palm tree, so I picked him up and pushed him through the hole under my fence ( the da*n rabbits keep digging it) into the field, but he kept coming back.

Finally, one day I carried him to the other side of the field, and he hasn't come back.

I wouldn't mind the rabbits, except they leave little rabbit poops everywhere, and I'm pretty sure the thick, black poisonous ( pretty sure it was venomous, had retractable fangs) snake we had to kill in the yard once was rabbit hunting.

Chana, where you from? Maybe by Minnesota standards our winters are mild, but I'm sure anyone who has lived in the ME ( like AG from Houston, aka Abu Angry Texan) will tell you our winters are bitter cold by Israeli standards, and our summers delightful.

359 Rayra's REALLY had enough of the RoP  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:52:59pm
#316 Ed Moran: Abu Muzyad Yakhoob 11/13/2003 02:12PM PST
You're thinking of Los Angeles, which has only two seasons, Fire Season and Flood Season.

Hey! You forgot the all-encompassing Third Season - Earthquake Season (though there havenlt been many measureable ones lately jinxjinxjinx). And as zulubaby pointed out, we've just gone through our Fire-Flood transition. Speaking of which, there was stunning footage just last week as just 48hrs after 100F local temps and raging fires, an adjacent snow-boarding area opened up for the season.


#339 Right Wing Conspirator 11/13/2003 02:35PM PST

#337 ploome
I take offense at that!

I am offended that your offended.

I'm offended that you're offended that he's offended about her offense.

360 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:53:49pm

Boy, the RoPMA looks more fun than a barrel of monkeys.

The JIM CARREY comedy BRUCE ALMIGHTY is at the centre of a storm of controversy in Malaysia - where it is deemed offensive to Muslims.
Nike Inc. Tuesday let the other shoe drop in a public affairs snafu festering for three months, agreeing to recall a line of shoes with a logo that a Muslim group found offensive.
TORONTO, Aug 3 (IslamOnline.net) - The Muslim community here are irked by an extremely offensive cartoon that constitutes a flagrant mockery of the Islamic belief in Paradise and presents a stereotyped and distorted image of how Muslims conceive life after death
Staff were told not to set up nativity scenes, Christmas trees or decorations with Christian symbols in case they offended Muslims and other non-Christians.
He also criticised the Lagos-based ThisDay newspaper, which published the article which offended Muslims and sparked the violence
CHRISTOPHER KOCH: Yes, I've been made aware of it over the years. I don't know whether listeners will remember this but when the film was being made they filmed most of it in fact in the Philippines and Peter Weir and his crew had to come back and finish the film in Sydney because they had death threats from Muslims in the Philippines, and apparently Muslims in Indonesia were objecting to the film - no-one could ever really understand why, although I have theories of my own.
Rapper Lil Kim Outrages American Muslims on the cover of Russell's OneWorld
In another case, San Diego State's satirical newspaper The Koala was targeted for a piece that offended Muslims. In that case, similar measures were taken, in which administrators pretended that the satirical writers had broken another rule, and therefore they could take away funding for the paper
Project Islamic H.O.P.E., a prominent Muslim civil rights group, along with a coalition of Islamic organizations, demands an apology from X-Men director, Bryan Singer. They are also demanding that the anti-Islamic propaganda from his latest film be removed before "X2: X-Men United" is released on DVD.

Ummm. Can you all please grow the f**k up.

361 Tasty Manatees  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:55:07pm

The drive didn't really concern me that much. I don't care whether the limeys watch South Park or not.

What does concern me, however, was the assasination threat against President Bush contained on another thread in the same forum. This website is hosting discussions about murdering the President of the United States immediately prior to the President's visit.

Here is the thread. The thread is by "Amir2001", and he originally posted:

"Please sign petition to stop Bush from coming to the UK.

Go to PetitionOnline, then goto the Stop Bush petition."

Innocent enough.

The only response he got was from "Mota", who is described as an "Active member" of the forum since January of 2001. Here it is, in it's entirety:

"yeah hes really gona not come with all those autographs . . .

why don't we get an assassin to shoot him?


__________________
The Prophet said, "The person who participates in (Holy battles) in Allah's cause and nothing compels him to do so except belief in Allah and His Apostles, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward, or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise (if he is killed in the battle as a martyr). Had I not found it difficult for my followers, then I would not remain behind any sariya going for Jihad and I would have loved to be martyred in Allah's cause and then made alive, and then martyred and then made alive, and then again martyred in His cause."

(Vol 1, Book 2, Number 35. Narrated by Abu Huraira )"

Tasty Manatees

362 zulubaby  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:55:29pm

Chana (#353)

And the African "kaffir" is referring to a local Bantu tribe.

That may have to do with the origin of the word, but it is an extremely offensive and racist slur in South Africa.

363 RIP Ford  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:55:55pm

341 Paul (now living in the frozen tundra)

Didn't Houston have a major flood of its own a cople of years ago. I seem to remember a tropical storm named


36 inches of rain will do that over a couple of days...

364 Robert Crawford  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 12:57:41pm

I'm sure someone's already said this, but I feel a need to vent this:

To Muslims it is very important never to make any pictorial representations of the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh).

SOUTH PARK IS NOT DRAWN BY MUSLIMS!!!

WHY THE HELL SHOULD NON-MUSLIMS BE RESTRICTED BY YOUR PETTY, STONE-AGE, IGNORANT RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT CAN AND CANNOT BE DRAWN, YOU FASCIST PIGS? NON MUSLIMS DO NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW MUSLIM RELIGIOUS RESTRICTIONS!!!

WE ARE NOT DHIMMIS! WE ARE FREE MEN!

IF YOU'RE OFFENDED BY A TELEVISION SHOW CHANGE THE GODDAMNED CHANNEL YOU FASCIST PIGS!!!

Thanks. I needed to get that out of my system.

365 Colt  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:00:05pm

OT - is the Democratic strategy to politicise the Senate Intel Committee still news in the States?

366 Paul  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:00:14pm

K., #345 & Chana #353

I'm a Catholic and my first boss was Jewish; whenever I made a minor error he'd say I had a "goyische (sp?) kopf". Everyone understood that he was joking; he didn't have a mean bone in his body. You have to take words like "kuffar" and "goy" in the context of their usage.

367 Salman Rushdie  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:03:34pm

Shoulda listened to Enoch Powell.

[Link: www.sterlingtimes.co.uk...]

368 Ed Moran: Abu Muzyad Yakhoob  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:03:56pm

My wife and I had just moved into our house two months prior to Tropical Storm Allison , and I hadn't moved my college textbooks from the carboard boxes I had in the garage. We kept the water out of the house by packing towels under the door, but my old school books were lost.

My wife's grandparents and her cousins had severe flood damage.

It is no fun ripping up muddy carpets.


But the Gulf of Mexico on the Texas coast is now well below the magic 26.5C required for tropical cyclogenesis, and won't warm up to that level again until late May of next year, and we never have earthquakes.

Plus, my impression is our Mexican-Americans are a lot friendlier than California's Mexican-Americans, and ours make better food.


/hmmmmm, menudo!

369 Jonny  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:04:53pm

#328 Curious

Oonkal Hyndrich Vilst un Vacation
zer contracted Konstipation
Each Day Betveen hiz morning und hiz evening svim
He spent his time un der Shyze House Inn
Ohhh, he turned
and ohhh, he tvisted
but still his Prussian gutz rezisted.
Until vun day, Ven Vis collosal pressure from inside
Ze Bowelz, zay opened vide.
Und oonkal Hyndrich took avay
vis great jet prepulsion.
Und flying High through der sky
Vas un miztook for un flying messerschmitt
Und Boom Boom Boom,
Zay shot him Down.
Und Ven zay came to bury him for dead
Frauh Hyndrich said
Oonkal Hyndrich, Hyndrich Dear,
you are un victim of zuper diahhorea.

370 CroMagnon  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:06:11pm

Talking about things that muslims consider 'hurtful' to them, have a look at Al Jihaad, issue no.5, from the Supporters of Sharia:

Islam: questions and answers;
Is Killing of civilians allowed in Islam?

Generally, the killing of civilians is not allowed in Islam. But in certain conditions it is allowable such as ....
...
(6) Women can also be killed if they expose their body and use nudism to fight Islam and hurt the Muslims such as the woman who was killed with a arrow for showing her private parts to the Prophet (s.a.a.s) and Shahaba at the battle of Tai’f. (Narrated by Al-Mughni vol 10)..

from:
Al Jihaad Issue #5 (Supporters of Sharia)

371 K.  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:06:36pm

#349 zulubaby

#352 scaramouche

Interesting, thanks. I should have noted that I'm not really qualified to speak about "kafir" (kuffar) since I've never heard the word used in speech..

According to dictionary.com Goy is "Used as a disparaging term for one who is not a Jew."

This is certainly not how I understand it. I have heard the word used many times by religious and secular Jews, always without a hint of disparagement, just like the word "gentile."

372 ND MN TX  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:06:52pm

Yeah but Tropical Storm Allison's 36" of rain sure made for some lovely conoeing in the streets.

The winter temps (and north wind) here in Houston are certainly nothing compared to the vicious, biting winter gales from Canada (aye) the Fargo is subject to, but the higher humidity levels here make it seem cold. But I still enjoy boating year round here, not like the article in the Mnpls - St. Paul Tribune the other day describing the 2 guys fishing near the twin cities whose outboard motor malfunctioned and their boat became frozen stuck out in the lake before they were rescued.

373 Frank IBC  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:07:02pm

The really sad thing here is that there are many Christians who are less willing to defend Jesus from the PC hordes, than Muslims who are willing to do just that.

On the other hand...I used to be appalled by the suggestion that Jesus was black. I don't believe it now any more than I did then, but in reality it is no more ridiculous to suggest he was black than to suggest he was blond, as many Christians believe.

374 BC  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:07:14pm

#357 lizzy -

Very heartfelt and well-said. I haven't known very many Muslims personally, but those I have known have been almost without exception polite, friendly and soft-spoken. It's just that somehow when they get into groups they get transformed into raving lunatics. But you're right that we can't give up hope.

375 Curious  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:07:45pm

What did Muhammad (piss be upon him) say when he ran out of 9 year olds?

'Mustafa Kamel.'

376 veebee  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:08:17pm

paul

Dictionary provides the context.

Back to Arab humor, I guess I have to turn around what I said... somewhat at least. There is/was a hadj Nassraddin (sp?) tradition in the Arab world/Central Asia with a sensibility somewhat akin to Western humor, I guess. But that's about the extent of my knowledge of it.

377 ND MN TX  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:09:47pm

#369 Jonny - that sounds just like what the old farmers in North Dakota talk like.

378 hcq  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:09:50pm

free-thinker that I am, I can't really find a problem with any religious group feeling protective about how its its founders (for lack of a better word) are portrayed. Or even with its adherents making a fuss about something that offends them.

I DO see a problem, however, when the group doing the complaining about bigotry has a history of institutional bigotry toward those who don't share its beliefs.

However, I seriously doubt that the Muslim world "gets" this hypocrisy, or if it does, finds it all offensive. AFAIK, shari'a not only allows a double standard toward non-Muslims - it requires it.

379 Right Wing Conspirator  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:10:13pm

#365 Colt

OT - is the Democratic strategy to politicise the Senate Intel Committee still news in the States?


I think that that would hurt the Democrats if that story really got out, so no, of course we are not hearing much about it. (Granted, haven't been following the news in the past couple of days so it might be.

#359 Rayra's REALLY had enough of the RoP

I'm offended that you're offended that he's offended about her offense.


Alright, alright, now I am REALLY offended. Don't make me pull out the fatwa on you !

380 veebee  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:10:39pm

K. #371

I guess Ask Jeeves is not that authoritative.

381 Jonny  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:12:14pm

#375 Curious

Have your read stop in the desert by 'Mustafa Crap'.

382 Jonny  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:15:39pm

#377 ND MN TX

It didn't come out to well. It sounds better when you say it with a German accent.

383 Assadullahi  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:16:06pm

Wait until the British Muslims see the comic book *this* ex-Muslim has drawn about Muhammad's homosexual boy-toy-for-hire/Superhero.

I call it:

"HoMohammad"

Assalamu alaykum!

Ex-Muslim
Assadullahi

384 Paul  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:18:20pm

Ed Moran, #340

I remeber both snowstorms well. I was living in Manhattan at the time and the February storm knocked out the Long Island Railroad for days. Many co-workers who lived on the island went home at noon on Monday (when the office was closed) and never made it back to work that week.

P.S. I also have the Kocin and Ucellini book---it brings back many fond memories, especially the winter of 1960/61.

385 Frank IBC  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:18:45pm

Ed -

Plus, my impression is our Mexican-Americans are a lot friendlier than California's Mexican-Americans, and ours make better food.

Yummmm...California-Mexican-American...Yummm
/Cannibal Homer

But seriously...

I remember going to Tijuana one time, and being terrified of the Americans that had come down there to party and raise hell in general...and feeling relief when I was in a crowd of locals.

386 K.  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:19:27pm

Webster gives a better definition. "Sometimes disparaging."

The definition at dictionary.com is completely off base, not only in my opinion.


#380 veebee

Ask Jeeves? Dictionary.com is the American Heritage Dictionary.

387 Ed Moran: Abu Muzyad Yakhoob  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:19:45pm

I always get a little uncomfortable when I see pictures of a Norwegian looking Jesus.

I would suppose, as a Jew from the Middle East, He'd look Jewish. Of course, I'll be the first to admit I sometimes have a hard time telling Jews from Gentiles.


I didn't have a clue this guy was Jewish until his father died and had services at a synagogue

Most people know Robert Finger as the spokesperson and owner of Fingers Furniture. But what you might not know is that he is quite the horseman.
He not only owns several cutting horses, he also rides them. In fact, he's a huge competitor and looks forward to participating in cutting horse competitions at the Houston Livestock Show and Rodeo every year.

And, this year is no exception. Find out what inspired this businessman to go on horseback and why he loves RodeoHouston.

388 Ed Moran: Abu Muzyad Yakhoob  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:22:17pm

I've been drunk in Tijuana.

389 Jonny  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:23:54pm

What do you call a drunk arab?

Hammered.

What do you call a sloshed arab?

MoreHammered.

390 Frank IBC  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:24:20pm

#370 CroMagnon -

I guess they would be none too amused by nude protestors spelling out the word "Salaam"?

Deeply hurtful

Too bad they weren't raised Catholic.

They would have been told to "offer it up for the souls in Purgatory".

391 Ed Moran: Abu Muzyad Yakhoob  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:28:20pm

And Ensenada, BC del Norte I have never hurled in Mexico.

I once drank about half a bottle of gin in Mombasa after 107 straight days at sea, and then vomited. I was young and stupid then.

Probably less than 1% of all American men can claim they have vomited in Africa*

*-Mombasa was actually an island, so did I really vomit on Africa?

I also hurled near Barrio Barreto, after a night full of "mojo" and San Miguel.

I had to cut way back on my drinking when I started college, although I usually had a few at the monthly SPE kegger in Eastwoods Park.

I really don't drink much anymore, since my wife is, at best, a one glass of wine at dinner person.

I've had no alcohol at all since I've been on Atkins Induction, although once I go to "OWL" I may permit myself a glass of wine with dinner occasionally.

392 Ed Moran: Abu Muzyad Yakhoob  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:31:02pm

Later,

Ed

393 Elias Israel  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:52:42pm

Thanks to everyone who helped me out with links and other material.

394 justdanny (abu absalom)  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 1:56:18pm

#325 zulubaby

I figured L.A. and S. Africa you might not have had much experience with the white stuff. I did'nt know about N.Y. and London.

Here in Central Ky we have four very distinct seasons. Often sweltering steambath days in summer. Often winters packed in snow and ice. Spring and fall like perfect heaven. Just had a nice thunderstorm a few days ago. I too love the thunder and lightning.

Just saw some news footage of the hail and snow there. Looked sort of brown and gray, yick.

Ooops, oh and RoPMA !!

395 Dom  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 2:03:01pm

When I reflect on what the Qu'ran does to the Bible stories they've got a bloody cheek. If they brought up their children on South Park the world would be a better place.

396 QueenEsther  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 2:19:38pm

The fact that Islamofascistas can't destroy an animated tv show with suicide bombs or by flying a plane into the tv set must be driving them nuts! Sh*t, its a good thing that Braniff's not still around. They'd have to hire extra Israeli security.
WAAAAaaaaahhhh!!!

397 Geepers  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 2:27:29pm

Get your slurs right:

The Racial Slur Data Base

398 justdanny (abu absalom)  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 2:27:30pm

#357 lizzy

You and I have never traded words here. You may have never noticed me here before. But let me tell you, I have read every post you have written here. I have nothing but boundless respect and admiration for you. Not in a million years would I call you a LLL. I am only glad I am subject to the absolute goodness of the words you have written.

399 ploome  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 2:33:27pm

391 Ed Moran: Abu Muzyad Yakhoob

I vomited in France.

does that count?

400 Engineer  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 2:47:34pm

#399 Ploome

I vomited in France.

Was it the food or the smell?

401 ploome  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 2:57:25pm

400 Engineer

both

it was a bad evening

402 steve miller  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 3:14:29pm

#399 - and who hasn't?

403 Buckeye Abroad  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 3:20:42pm

Geepers

I am in Columbus Wednesday (19 Nov) and was hoping we could meet up for a beer or three that night. Drop me a line at the email above and we will sort the details.

The bird home leaves in T-minus 8 hours and 4 minutes... back to the World!

404 Evariste's Zaide  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 3:55:40pm

I'm a gentile.
I'm male.
If I attended a Halloween party in the nude, standing on a skateboard, I'd be a Goy Boy Pull-toy.

Oy, oy oy! Sorry, sorry!

405 Geepers  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 4:05:16pm

Evariste's Zaide (#404),

Only if you wear a collar and leash. ;-)

Oh, and you're invited to my Halloween party next year.

406 JerryC  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 4:07:53pm

OH MY GOD! They want to kill Kenny!


You Bastards!

407 quark2  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 4:08:01pm

@316 Ed Moran weatherwizard et al,


Don't forget the 1997 ice storm we had in the Houston area. It took me nearly 4 hours to drive to work. From north of Cleveland off of Hwy59 to Deer Park, Hwy 225.
What a muhammeddamned fool that I was for doing it. That cost me having to be stuck at work for 3 days! The ice was horrendous, we had icecicles anywhere from 4 feet to 12 feet long on equipment. Many a person busted their butts on the iced over sidewalks and pipe runs. We haven't had a true winter since.
The winter storm of 1989 was a goody, especially working in an olefins plant. We had so much ice in the hollow pipe struts, rain had filled them up some of them cracked and started falling on operators heads. We had one dufus try to ride a bicycle on iced over concrete pads. And of course he weighed about 300 pounds at the time.

408 donna  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 4:38:39pm

hmmm...i've forgotten what the original post was about

allah shmallah

409 Timmy  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 4:56:13pm

Way to go South Park. Pees Be Upon Him (The Pedophile). By the way, I'm starting a campaign to dip all the coinage and paper money I handle in pig fat. Oh I'm a Baaaaad kuffar.

410 NTropy  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 4:56:29pm

Whyshould Allah or Mohammed be used as swear words? The former is impotent and the latter was a lying, cheating, pedophilic bastard. Hardly any shock value in those.

#29   AB

Why would mohammed make it so that no one can picture him? Was he terribly ugly or did he think he was more than human?


How many unindicted pedophiles do you know that want to pose for a mug shot?

#58   Gordon

Though I'm sure you realize it, Pat Bucchanan is no Catholic. That is the way your sentence reads.

#373   Frank IBC

The really sad thing here is that there are many Christians who are less willing to defend Jesus from the PC hordes, than Muslims who are willing to do just that.


Assuming for a minute that my faith that Jesus is God is accurate, I don't really think he needs my defense ;-). He is perfectly capable of defending himself.

411 Ed Moran:Abu George Zipp, Hero of Macho Grande  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 4:59:39pm

I remember the ice storm of early 1997. I was in Lafayette, LA then.


If we have any ice/snow, I want it to come early enough that I can stay home from school and play w/ my kids.


I meant to type "work" for "school", but it is an interesting slip, so I won't correct it.

412 ronnie schreiber  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 5:38:30pm

It should be pointed out that the Barak government in Israel prosecuted a young woman for "incitement", because she made some posters representing Mohammed as a swine. They ignored the imans' weekly references to Jews as apes and pigs.

413 NTropy  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 5:48:47pm

#412   ronnie schreiber

Crap!! Does that mean that this one wouldn't fly either?

414 ronnie schreiber  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 5:54:29pm

Mo-fucking-hammed

It has a nice ring, sort of evokes the word motherfucker.

415 Egyptian Kafir  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:12:53pm

Muslims are the most unwitted, Boorish moronic Dolts one can ever meet ...you guys in Europe are too pussified and pc towords these fuckwits..STOP RESPONDING TO EVERY WHINE AND COMPLAINT THESE PEOPLE DO..STOP HOLDING YOUR BREETH IN FEAR TO "OFFEND" MUSLIMS...These people find everything in this life offensive..you infidels' existence itself is offensive for them..just ignore them...the more you actually show concern towords their "demands" the more they will get used to it..geez.

just look here for example...what a pussy that guy is:

[Link: www.faithfreedom.org...]

416 Gary  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:26:24pm

They think South Park is bad? Wait'll they see this:

[Link: triggur.org...]

(scroll down for the illustration)

The 19th Century illustrator Gustave Dore depicting the damnation of Mohammed in Dante's Inferno. The Big Mo gets filed away in the section for "Sowers of Discord" - as one who sows discord, his punishment is to be repeatedly disemboweled by one of the the Inferno's resident demons (he heals quickly of course so he can be disemboweled again).

I'm sure a number of Mo's co-religionists are now with their Prophet.

- CMC

417 BH  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 6:48:54pm

Mohammedammitall! Would you guys watch yer language? My workplace's content filter crapped out around post 70, and I've missed out on all this sweet, sweet Allah-bashing!

Okay, here's my question. If it's forbidden to make a pictorial depiction of Mohhhamed (rats piss upon him), then how the f*ck do they know that the puby-faced bastard on South Park was supposed to be their Prince of Pedophiles?

Open up yo mouf, Mohammed baybee! I'm opening up the crap-sprinkler! Hahahahaaaa!

418 Jamuka  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:08:16pm

When will England start deporting these bastards!

419 Cornish Intifada  Thu, Nov 13, 2003 10:39:37pm

#418 - I'm afraid as soon as the BNP get in charge - that's the only way - and I reckon in 20 years there will be riots etc all the time

420 arminius  Fri, Nov 14, 2003 3:49:06am

The first thing I thought when I saw it mirrors what #49 said: protesting this is EXACTLY the strategy that will prompt the creators of the show to pound the issue and never let up. Never forget what South Park has done to Barbara Streisand. Remember Phil Collins' appearence after he took the "Best Original Song" Oscar from "Blame Canada." Look for an upcoming episode to be in "Spooky-Mohammed-vision."

This is exactly what you do not want to do--it's like sitting in a nightclub and politely asking Don Rickles or Triumph the Insult Comic Dog to leave you alone or to be nice. The ROP is going to be savaged.

As befits savages, but that is another issue.... :-)

421 Viking the Kitten  Fri, Nov 14, 2003 4:10:46am
Triumph the Insult Comic Dog to leave you alone or to be nice.


Islam is a very noble religion, a truly great religion... for me to poop on.

422 Viking the Kitten  Fri, Nov 14, 2003 4:24:43am

By the way, who is this "Triumph the Insult Comic Dog?"

423 Frank IBC, Religion of Jeff Stryker Toys  Fri, Nov 14, 2003 5:57:45am

Why would mohammed make it so that no one can picture him? Was he terribly ugly or did he think he was more than human?

No, he just had a Burka fetish.

Well, paintings of him sure look like he's wearing a burka.

(To the tune of "Winter Wonderland")

Lacy things -- the wives are missin',
Didn't ask -- their permission,
I'm wearin' their clothes,
Her camel's wool pantyhose,
Walkin' 'round in women's underwear.

In the suq -- there's a teddy,
Little straps -- like spaghetti,
It holds me so tight,
Like handcuffs at night,
Walkin' 'round in women's underwear.

In the masjid there's a guy named Munir
He pretends that I am Hanan Ashrawi.
He'll say, "Are you ready?" I'll say,"Whoa, Man!"
"Let's wait until our wives are out of town!"

Later on, if you wanna,
We can dress -- like Fatimah
Put on some eyeshade,
And join Ashura,
Walkin' 'round in women's underwear!

REFRAIN

424 baltic babe  Fri, Nov 14, 2003 6:10:57am

Oh my Allah, what has this world come to , imagine that , the big Mo being shown as a figure on TV. And not even a true depiction of the child molester that he was!

To get a better understanding of how intolerent this religion is you should check out the following web site, it's a real eye opener!

secular islam

425 Geepers  Fri, Nov 14, 2003 6:41:16am

Frank IBC,

LOL. Maybe that explains why he wanted a dozen wives. Hangin' with the ladies. Plus a bigger selection of silkies.

426 baltic babe  Fri, Nov 14, 2003 7:16:16am

Sorry about the link not working... you can geo to :
secularislam.com
to get more information about persons trying to leave islam and what can happen to them. Like I said a real eye opener!

427 [deleted]  Fri, Nov 14, 2003 10:34:35pm
428 go to hell morons  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:15:31pm

go to hell you morons and burn!

429 Charles  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 5:06:52am

^^^ Say HELLo to a visitor from Maldives... ^^^

430 go to hell morons  Fri, Nov 21, 2003 9:54:05pm

glad you could recognise me
u ppl think that you are above others eh? why dont you just stop critisizing and putting down other people. the fact that you dont get all steamed up when they potray jesus as a cartoon just proves how little you respect your own religion...

431 Dom  Fri, Nov 21, 2003 10:18:54pm
u ppl think that you are above others eh?


Great start, now I'm really all ears.

432 go to...  Fri, Nov 21, 2003 10:53:46pm

maybe one day u'll realise.. and it'll be a little bit too late to turn back

433 Dom  Fri, Nov 21, 2003 11:15:12pm

The fact that you think people here think they are better means you have ignorantly taken the high ground. The fact that you do not want to share with us anything better suggests you are not capable, however. The fact that you picture everyone going to hell says you're a lout who prefers his religion with a big side dish of tasty threats. Yum! Considering your tone please respect the restraint with which you have been met, it is a common quality among Many Different Peoples of The World.


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