I remember this attack.

Even the Nazis didn't brag about how they killed children.

shame really that he got wacked, he would have made one hell of an addition to the 9 Dwarfs running for President

Nice tidbit at the end about how the suspected collaborators who might have helped the IDF find this terrorist slime were summarily executed.

My, what a lovely state Palestine will be.

I wonder if an ISM shitlets were there.

Didn't a Sirhan Sirhan kill Bobby Kennedy too?
Was there Islamic terror in 1960's America too?

By contrast, just one of the reasons why I'm proud to be a Jew.

I wonder if any ISM shitlets were there, that is.

Until the Israeli government starts taking these matters seriously, Israelis will continue to be murdered. How come his family are asking for the return of his body ? They should be in hiding terrified of being wiped out.

Israeli intelligence must have known that this rally was to take place, why didn't an accident occur ? and a Palestinian militant spontaneously combust/explode in the middle of all this. Until this type of accident starts happening regularly, Israelis will keep dying.

I guess he didn't murder enough innocent people to get a school or a soccer team named after him.

I agree: The Israeli government needs to start taking these vile, pro-terror memorializations seriously.

Wow, yet another sterling example of how progress is not possible with Arafat in charge.
This is the guy who's supposed to "rein in" terrorists? A leader who sends representatives to hate rallies and goes on TV telling kids to blow themselves up?

#8 /d/

They most likely will. I want to watch the reaction of members of the angry left old enough to remember or to have heard of RFK that Palestinians ghave a Sirhan Sirhan school or unamerican football team.

#4
Yes, another Sirhan Sirhan.

No relation, other than getting famous for murdering Zionists. Or politicians who thought Israel should exist. Or babies. It's all the same to these Sirhan types.

#4

No, amazingly enough, that was a completely different whack-job named Sirhan Sirhan.

OT:

Home Secretary David Blunkett has refused to grant diplomatic immunity to armed American special agents and snipers travelling to Britain as part of President Bush's entourage this week.
In the case of the accidental shooting of a protester, the Americans in Bush's protection squad will face justice in a British court as would any other visitor, the Home Office has confirmed.

The issue of immunity is one of a series of extraordinary US demands turned down by Ministers and Downing Street during preparations for the Bush visit.

These included the closure of the Tube network, the use of US air force planes and helicopters and the shipping in of battlefield weaponry to use against rioters.

In return, the British authorities agreed numerous concessions, including the creation of a 'sterile zone' around the President with a series of road closures in central London and a security cordon keeping the public away from his cavalcade.

What the hell?

Okay, so I've heard the justification for the "Free Speech Zones" is that protestors might get a little out of hand.

But battlefield weapons? I can see a few snipers, sure, there could very well be a wacko, but I don't see the need to have the Air Force providing security. What, are the protestors going to sneak in a tank? How can we safely use missiles and miniguns when we're dealing with crowds of people? Not to mention the fact that shutting down the London subway would result in a scene somewhat like the northeastern power outage a few months back.

It just boggles the mind that Israel allows these vipers to congregate, name streets after each other, and otherwise celebrate their genocidal intent.

With every passing day that this goes on, Israel loses legitimacy in the eyes of the wider world. While the dumbass israeli politicians think they are showing the world what menschen they are, by letting them spout their 'narrative', and by only targeting 'ticking bombs', the world thinks the jews must be guilty of theft, that the jews themselves feel israel has no legitimacy, cause they don't have the conviction to state their case or defend themsleves.

Where the fuck is the jewish narrative? Where is the Israeli narrative?

Someone from Israel, please let me know.

WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON?

Just a thought -- send the Palestinkers to France.

Serve the frogs right!

#13 -- Source, please.

Odd, isn't it, how the loons always forget to source their rants.

MSNBC did something about hamas tonight. It weirdly occured to me... so heavily armed, so heavily financed... how can they seriously claim to be an oppressed people? Looking at photos of oppressed peoples, they barely have a pot to piss in or a rusted machette for self defense.

Way OT:

I'm going to be in Austin TX (my old stomping grounds) over Thanksgiving and the week after, and would love to meet some LGFers. You can email me through Charles' "safe mail" system.

Oh, and "scarshapedstar" -- remember, this is the peace movement that took pipe bombs to peace marches, and in a city where one of the newspapers has been holding forums on whether someone should assassinate Bush.

And where there are a hell of a lot of wannabe terrorists, of all stripes.

And your whinge about "battlefield weapons" is pathetic, considering that's the SAME hardware that follows the president around here in the US.

Michael, for some unknown reason, Jews are way too trusting of others. THe msnbc bit, showed how in the early days of hamas they were mostly political whereas plo were the terrorists. They allowed hamas to flourish all over Israel, build mosques and such thinking hamas would take the lead.... what a mistake. And because of how absurdly Jews are to trust others, the leaders in Isreal didn't expect the world to gang up on her so quickly nor would she have to have PR to battle the lies, because stupid trusting Jews, trusted that the world was smart enough not to believe the lies.

#11 Josh

What if it's not "no relation"? After all, this Sirhan squared could well be named for the first so-call Palestinian Sirhan Sirhan who killed RFK apparently due to his support of Israel.

Let's face it, if the shoe were on the other hand, the angry left and the reflexively leftist media would be using the confusion to its own ends. If I surmise correctly that SS-2 was named to honor SS-1, let's yell it from the rooftops along with some primo RFK quotes regarding Israel defending itself...

"Thirty-five years ago, ... This year, a young mother and her two pre-school aged children were among five civilians slaughtered by a man named for Robert Kennedy's killer..." (ellipses to indicate where political genius is needed to fill in blanks)

a "violation of international conventions."
the gall knows no bounds.

#3 /d/

i recently learned from an Israeli lgbt activist that often the 'collaborators' who are executed just happen to be gay men who were found out or thought to be gay, the collaboration may be having a partner in Israel...basically a sort of public honor killing...though no doubt they summarily murder anyone affiliated w the Zionist Entity as well
thats the noble human rights banner under which the ISM asshats march..i know i have at least two at my school

#13 scaredshapestar

Just like Robert Crawford asked, source please.

I am willing to bet it is Reuters or BBC, you know, a nice LLL source that doesn't know which end the round comes out. "Battlefield weapons" can be anything if you are using the same logic as the LLL when they passed the assault weapons ban.

ooooohhhh. It's black and looks like a bad gun

But it's a single shot .22 bolt-action

Thats not the point dammit !! GUNS ARE EVIL !!!

Gay Palestinians quite often seek refuge in Israel--it's pretty much the only area in the region where they won't be summarily eliminated. There was an article about the plight of gays in Palestinian society a few months back in The New Republic. Good article. I've still yet to see anybody of the LLL and ISM contingents stand up in solidarity for that oppressed segment of Palestinian society.

/d/ -- You might want to press someone on the left about Castro's treatment of gays. It's another one of those bizarre blindspots they have.

The world is placing false hope on palestinians. arafat is just one of the problems. To single arafat out as The major block to peace is wrong.

Look. If you placed the palestinian problem in a court of law there would be enough shit to convict them a million times over, yet look how they are given another chance and yet another. It is like taking a lie and sanatizing it to the point the victims are the perpitrators! This is what has happened to Israel. This lie has gone on so long that people believe it. They fell for it, hook line and sinker. To undo this lie is near impossible, almost as impossible as expecting the arab world to be peaceful.

The major problem has to do with infestation. Like cockroach infestation, but much worse. The second problem has to do with those who think once arafat is gone the crisis is over, has another guess coming. The palestinain sickness will take decades to fix if ever. Yet to hear world leaders and the media , arafat gone and a state of their own will be the cure. Ha ha.
This is simply another attempt of whitewashing the truth. It is smoking guns and mirrors but not the truth by any stretch.

The sad thing is some of the world knows this yet to appease and pander to the arab/islamo'goons we will continue to perpetuate a lie and with that lie more innocent people will be forced to sacrifice their lives across the world. How stupid are we?

[Link: observer.guardian.co.uk...]

I think it's pretty hard to claim that a minigun is anything other than a huge fucking gun designed with one purpose, to throw half a ton of lead in a matter of seconds.

Which makes it a less than ideal weapon for crowd control, unless of course you don't mind killing hundreds of people.

As usual, I ask you to imagine if the French did such a thing in Washington.

But still, does the president normally travel with fighters and helicopters overhead?

The Sirhan Sirhan who murdered RFK was Sirhan BISHARA Sirhan - interestingly, the "Accutane Aviator", Chares "Bishop", who crashed a stolen plane into an office building in Tampa, was born Charles BISHARA.

#27- scarstar

Did you read what you posted?

The Americans had also wanted to travel with a piece of military hardware called a 'mini-gun', which usually forms part of the mobile armoury in the presidential cavalcade.It is fired from a tank and can kill dozens of people. One manufacturer's description reads: 'Due to the small calibre of the round, the mini-gun can be used practically anywhere. This is especially helpful during peacekeeping deployments.'

#13 scarshapedstar

Wait until you see our maxigun...

Bush travels with what is needed to protect him.

Moreover, whether the President ususally travels with fighter escorts or not, I'm reasonably certain the airspace above his destination is likely to be tightly monitored or closed. If a stray aircraft was to come anywhere near him, I would expect there to be fighter planes or helicopters there in extremely short order.

The Brits seem willing to work out the details amicably.

A Home Office spokeswoman said: 'Negotiations between here and the US have been perfectly amicable. If there have been requests, they have not posed any problems.'

So what's your problem?

#27 starshapedscar

First off, thanks for providing the think.

Second, kind of a family website so watch the f bomb. Some kids can read.

Third, not disputing the unbiased Guardian but I know and have known people in the USSS and the DSS and I have never ever heard that they are equipped with miniguns in the Presidential motorcade.

providing the LINK. Ahhhh. Preview is my friend, preview is my friend.

starshapedscar -

Also, if the minigun is fired from a tank, I am sure there has to be a picture of a tank with a minigun on the turret. Huh, whats that. There isn't. Oh, well, I guess they are keeping it secret, just like the tanks in the Presidential motorcade.

Off topic - great source - includes many foreign language sources culled from fbis translations.

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Charles, have not been online much the last two months due to work, hence alphabet city's hiatus.

Rock on dude.

I've just looked over what I've done, and I feel terrible. Here's a thread about Palestinian celebration of cold-blooded child murder and this scar/star person wants to change the subject so he or she can whine about Bush's security arrangements. For a moment I failed to notice the shift in several orders of moral magnitude and played into his/her persecution fantasy by responding to it. I apologize.

#36 G.Karp

Garsh Darn It. Does this mean I have to apologize also ? Hey, sometimes you just gotta do what feels right. :-)

the israelis still got sirhans body--wrap it in pigskin-bury it in pigshit--THEN-- after 40 days give it to them with a certificate of authenticity

the israelis still got sirhans body--wrap it in pigskin-bury it in pigshit--THEN-- after 40 days give it to them with a certificate of authenticity

For what reason? Authenticity of what?

joke dude--authenticity of this mujahedine sirhan corpse as being the real mujahedin sirhan corpse and not some pigskin, pigshit infested substitute--no way to get into paradise that way and bring his 70 relatives with him--allahu nakba

@40 hulugu

Ok. I had never heard of corpse authenticity certification in Islam before, nor the pigskin/paradise connection.

I think its time Israel started to play this game by THEIR rules.

To be fair to the ISM and other Darwin Award wannabes, Israel should post the following notice (in Hebrew, let the ISM read the language of the country they visit) which says something like this:

"Welcome to Israel. Please be advised we are at war with a ruthless Islamic entity which is waging total war against our men, women and children. Be further advised that this entity is enthusiastically supported by the majority of the Palestinian people as repeadedly revealed in opinion polls.
THEREFORE, be advised that a state of war exists and anyone giving aid and comfort to the Palestinians does so at their own risk. Our goal is the total destruction of all Palestinian terrorist organizations regardless of the cost to the Palestinian people."

Similar leaflets (in Arabic) should be duly distributed to the Palistinians. Then for every terror incident one Palestinian refugee camp/town gets the Hama treatment.

I hate to say it, but the Kublai Kahan approach is the only way for Israel to win. And if Israel is to survive Israel MUST win.

Abu Ala, in his recent Inaugural Address, addressed issues of this sort very clearly.

You are fully aware, sisters and brothers, of the international situation we are living in after the events of September 11 th and you are aware of the regional reality and the infamous attempts to qualify our national struggle as terrorism and to accuse us of being terrorists. You do know how notions have been reversed and norms have been changed where the glorious struggle is confused with the mischievous terrorism.

This is the political reality with its international and regional dimensions. It is a situation that we certainly do not accept, but we cannot ignore it either. We do not have the luxury to ignore this reality or choose not to deal with it. However, we will always be able to address this situation without accepting it or succumbing to its terms.

* * *

We call for peace and cohabitation; we call for freedom, independence and national dignity. We are not terrorists and we shall never be. Our struggle has never been directed against children, women and civilians; it is against occupation, settlement expansion and expropriation of land. It is against demolition of houses, uprooting of trees, killing and assassination. We do not want our women to deliver at military checkpoint; we do not want to be prohibited from praying in Alaqsa Mosque and the Church of Resurrection. We are against the confiscation of our land and we stand for our basic rights to mobility, work, education and healthcare. We have never rejected the choice of peace; to the contrary, we have taken risks to attain this dream that is shared by all human kind.

We sisters and brothers are victims of terrorism, state terror, organized and systematic terrorism, settlement expansion and land confiscation terrorism, apartheid wall terrorism, isolation of Jerusalem and surrounding it with settlements. Among the peoples of the Earth, we are the most harmed by terrorism; we are the nation whose reputation has been harmed by this detestable label. Therefore, we reject it, condemn it and refuse it. We call upon the world to diagnose it accurately and define it in order to understand that we are its victims and we fight against it with strength.

Qurie's position is of a piece with the seventh legal resolution adopted at the most recent OIC foreign ministers' conference this past May.

These people—by which I mean not only Palestinian spokespersons but the entire Islamic bloc—make no bones about the fact that they reject the terrorist label for the atrocities committed by the Palestinians. They have pressed this position repeatedly at the UN, and with considerable success.

The only thing that is remarkable about events like the one reported on this thread is that we continue to view them as remarkable.

He shot the mom as she huddled on top of her kids hiding in her bedroom from point blank range. She and the kids were supposedly screaming and the father was on the phone with the mom as they were hiding and then shot.

The PA had to apologize because this tragedy came out about the way they died and also because it turned out that "they made a mistake" in planning (of course they didn't plan it?) the kibbutz was actually a mile within the Green Line and not in the "West Bank".

I am surprised Charles (or anyone else) didn't give links to the articles at the time when it happened and quote these fing hypocite liars who "condemned" this act with half bullshit equivalence like you know that truthful Mr. Ereket. That way their lying would be completely exposed displaying the continual pattern of lying............

Mike

Matan and Noam

United Nations Ignores Murder of Women and her toddlers by Arafat's Terrorists

Murder at Kibbutz - Jeff Jacoby (Boston Globe)

#44, #45

Thanks Mike. I was gonna ask if Metzer was actually a "settlement" or if its just full of Jews, and therefore a "settlement" like Tel Aviv.

scarshapedstar (#27),

I think it's pretty hard to claim that a minigun is anything other than a huge fucking gun designed with one purpose, to throw half a ton of lead in a matter of seconds.

Which makes it a less than ideal weapon for crowd control, unless of course you don't mind killing hundreds of people.

As usual, I ask you to imagine if the French did such a thing in Washington.

Isn't really necessary. The USSS and DC Metro Police would provide the protection, even for the French.

But still, does the president normally travel with fighters and helicopters overhead?

No, only in back-asward countries that are falling all over themselves in hopes that the POTUS is assassinated.

Tupsox,

Read the links I enclosed in #45 especially the Jacoby article. That will give you all the information you need to know about this.

I am really surprised Charles didn't give links to the "PA condemnations" after the taking credit for it etc.... and then the "condemnation" half-assed after the brutal nature of it and pictures got into the Western Press.

The only way to deal with the pallies is to put the hammer down.

I totally agree with those posters saying "The Pali state is Jordan" (Hamedina Hafalestinait he Yarden).

Oh poor Israel, oasis of democracy and freedom, surrounded by a cesspool of backwards idiocy and hatred (Arabs).

Come to think of it, we'd be better off just nuking the f***ers.

Drishat shalom me Israel