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Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 8:41:04 pm PST

Cute little toys for sale by Palestinian Arabs on the streets of Gaza and Ramallah. (Hat tip: StrategyPage.com.)

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1 bull  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 6:42:02pm

islam
is
peace

2 Targetpractice (Abu Boom Boom)  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 6:45:58pm

RoPMA

3 gymnast  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 6:46:48pm

Gee, a genuine exploding Osama Bobblehead. What will these clever people think of next? Osama cavejam?

4 zulubaby  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 6:51:16pm
Let's Give Them a State!

Let's not and say we did.

5 Stop Hillary  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 6:52:05pm

Res ipsa baby! The Moonbats come here. They whine and threaten. They tell us that we are ignorant racists because of our characterizations of Islam.

All we are doing for the most part is commenting on the statements, photos and activities of the Muslims. No one is making this stuff up. As I said before, they indict themselves.

The worst part of 9/11 for Islam is that it forced at least some Americans to actually begin to pay attention to what the Islamists have been and are actually saying and doing.

6 Mike Silverman  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 6:53:20pm

I bet you could pack enough plastic explosive in one of those dolls to blow someone up...hey, I have a great idea for Israeli intelligence...

7 Fay  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 6:54:04pm

Is that supposed to be a pool of blood at the rear of the twin towers? What does the writing(?) at the foot of the towers say?

How much are they charging for this crap and exactly what games are children expected to "play" with these "toys".

8 LightTower  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 6:54:21pm

Pass the hard candy and fire off a few rounds, and we'll have a sentimental journey.

Seriously, it is pitiful when you have to commemorate somebody *else's* war effort to look good to your kids. Until they go blow themselves up for the "home team." They sure can't do much in their "territory" - can't look too prosperous before the news cameras, right?

So they get sophisticated, mass-produced plastic toys with excellent paint jobs for the kiddies. From whom? From where? With what funding? (There are set-up costs, labor, materials, shipping, handling, baksheesh, ...)

All of those people have legitimate passports to real Arab countries. Maybe they could be airdropped to new "settlements" back in the old country.

They'd have something useful with which to occupy themselves, and the Israeli gov't could concentrate on saving the entire Free World from yet another nuclear threat in Iran.

9 Glen Wishard  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 6:55:11pm

That thing is definitely a sex doll and I'll bet green money that the Santa Barbara Sheriff's Department found one in Michael Jackson's house.

10 SoCalJustice  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 6:55:28pm

The guy with the Toy Stall across the street probably has Mossad action figures and an El Al plane flying into a WTC tower.

11 Alex  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 6:57:10pm

[shaking head in disbelief]

Is this real? I've never seen a palestinian [anything] look this pristine...

I don't put it beyond them. I guess I'm just in a bit of shock.

12 happycynic  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 6:57:11pm

You know, I almost feel sorry for the [bigoted word]s. If they ever read something besides the Koran, they might learn how democracies tend to fight wars. Basically, democracies fight wars poorly for quite some time, ignoring the threat out of lethargy until they get really pissed off, and then they up and kill everything they can find. Of course, this isn't written in the Koran. I have a feeling that the [bigoted word]s will blithy cheer on the terrorists right up to the point where the middle east looks like the final scene from Terminator 3. At which point the only enemy left will be the future Smithsonian curators accusing America of racism.

13 Stop Hillary  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 6:57:42pm

#6 -- "I bet you could pack enough plastic explosive in one of those dolls to blow someone up...hey, I have a great idea for Israeli intelligence... "


Ssshhh. That's not the plot at all. The toys are actually made by the Jews and if Arab males play with them their penis' will fall off. Don't breath a word of it to anyone.

14 Captain America  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 6:57:52pm

Next up from the Religion of Peace and the pride
(de-)based Arab "culture", little plastic infidels in various death poses, a celebration of murder for their children to grow up on.

Nothing, absolutely nothing is beneath these verminous scum.

15 LightTower  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 6:58:36pm

4 zulubaby 11/19/2003 08:51PM PST

"Let's Give Them a State!

Let's not and say we did."

Let's not and say we *didn't*! Why lie about it? ;^}

Feeling better today, ZB?

(I actually accomplished something worthwhile. Of course it was "round file"-canned, and we start all over in the a.m... :^} )

16 Max L  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 6:58:56pm

Righteous post Charles...Wilddd.. I LOVE LGF's

www.nicejewishboy.net

17 The Ramblin' Wreck  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 6:59:49pm

ROPMA

Why am I not suprised..


"But, but we have the evil Ann Coulter doll..!!"

/LLL apologist

18 Barbara Skolaut  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:02:25pm

Pigs is pigs, and they're all swine.

19 Deathberg  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:09:03pm

Someone put a lot of thought and effort into mass-producing this.

F**ing serious scary stuff.

RoPMA should be the international salutation of lizardoid minions everywhere. Whenever two Jewish rednecks pass on the street, they should greet each other by barking "Rope-Maaah!"

20 Donna V.  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:09:33pm

Lord, that Osama doll is ugly. And what's the thing with it's mouth? Maybe it's a talking Osama doll. I'd like to write the dialog: "We will emerge from the caves of Afganistan to fight the infi-Great Allah, the American Satans just dropped a big bomb near us! Where is my left leg?"

And,..., Hooray, Hooray, Hooray the harridan from Ireland is banned!!! She is now in deep Celtic seethe mode.

21 zulubaby  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:10:03pm

LightTower (#15)

"Let's not and say we did" is a joke that I have with a friend of mine. Sorry, I do that from time to time ;-)

I'm feeling a little better today, thank you for asking! That's so nice of you.

22 Spiny Norman  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:11:48pm

Where are these clever little curios made? Hmm, it wouldn't our buddies in the People's Republic, now would it?

23 Model4  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:13:26pm

"Gotta catch 'em all!"-TM. And we will.

And I suppose you people won't be mentioning that American children play with toys that glorify their military forces too. But then fair play has never quite been in vogue on this site.
/channeling the departed

24 Charles  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:16:29pm

I hate to say it -- but I don't think that's writing at the base of the towers. I think it's supposed to be the remains of jumpers.

25 HULUGU  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:17:24pm

hey dollface-that you usama baby-you are sooo cute---i bet you can trade 10 usama's for 1 barbie on the black market-i mean you can undress the barbie and get hot and see a naked anatomical representation--what can you do with this matched set--play twin towers with all 50 of your cousins--boooring after the first hour--buut--it beats dressing up in a suicide belt and going to a rally with uncle achmed for the 100th time--eid toys--so many choices before we slit the sheep's throat--allahu nakba

26 Ms. Andi  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:19:17pm

But it was the Mossad? Right?

But if not, then it was...

But there is no proof they were Arabs, right? I saw it on the internet.

But if it was Arabs, errr...umm...well then Amerikkka needs to stop funding the Zionest apartheid.

But 4000 Jews took the day off that day. So that means...that..it...was...umm


/confused LLL punk-ass

27 Melissa  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:22:05pm

Very cuddly...in a Jordyptian sort of way.

28 Mr. E. Train  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:22:58pm

Yep... like everything else Id bet these things are made in China to.

I always wondered watching GI Joe as a kid 2 things:

1) how can all these people fire off 10,000 rounds in a half hour and NO ONE gets hit ?!?!?

2) Why are the Joes fighting some made up group looking to take over the world, when there are so many real evil goverments?

Of course if they came out with a G I Joe cartoon now that had the Joes fighting Islam-o-facists the PC crowd would have a kaniption fit! ... hmmm... might be worth it just for that.

we should make little action figures of G I's liberating burka clad women, killing Jihadis trying to fire their jammed RPG's... ect. Id but them for my kids!

29 Juliette  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:23:50pm

My GWB-in-a-flightsuit doll can kick the Osama doll's punk-a**.

30 mary  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:25:12pm

Hmm…more proof that little Osama is part of the Underpants Gnome conspiracy.

31 FH  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:25:52pm

Charles, I think you are right, and that makes me sick. The depravity and inhumanity of the Palis has no boundries.

32 Mr. E. Train  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:26:23pm

and a bit OT but...

that whole Poke'mon thing.. think about it for a sec.

the point of the whole thing is to run around, capture exotic animals and train them so they will fight one another in an arena in front of a cheering crowd...

Isnt that just teaching kids to engage in the illegal activity known as COCK FIGHTING ??

people go to jail for that stuff ya know

33 AlienWorkShop Boy  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:27:52pm

So, this is Non-Partisan Supporter of the White House here... Still trying to come up with a new name!

I was trying to remember a quote from a book all day long. Now that I'm home, I can look for it. The quote is from a book called "Warrior Politics" by Robert D. Kaplan. Even though it's a little bit strange that a good Christian boy like me is reading a book with a title like that, I found it to be quite fascinating and full of valid points.

"At the beginning of the twenty-first century, the world media shows little sympathy for the challenges and awful ironies facing those who wield power; it upholds the safer virtue of sympathizing only with the powerless. Yet our greatest presidents knew that the wise employment of force was the surest guide to progress."

Anyway... the above is OT, but I thought some of you would enjoy that!

As for the toys... That's quite perverse. I admit to not being able to understand a mindset that is accepting of toys representing the actual deaths of human beings. But then again, I should be glad I don't understand!

#8 LightTower: An awful thought often crosses my mind: That a country like Iran or even Al-Qeada (sp?) would think nothing of detonating a nuclear weapon in Israel, knowing full well that it would harm the Palestinians as well. Of course, given their mindset that allows them to produce toys and collectibles like the ones shown above, they'll find some way to blame it all on the Jews. *sigh*

34 AB  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:27:57pm

The lefty kids at the universities will be decorating their dorms with this.

35 ploome  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:29:54pm

Security Council unanimously adopts road map resolution

well, no one blocked the resolution

36 Connecticut Yankee  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:30:27pm

The plastic WTC should have a WJC doll for the complete effect:
[Link: www.dutchguard.com...]

37 Mr. E. Train  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:31:05pm

Jihadi'mons... GOTTA CATCH'EM ALL !!!

38 Fay  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:35:13pm

Oh sh** Charles, I think you're right. Sorry I mentioned it.

39 K.  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:39:41pm

Ah, genuine hand-made Palestinian folk art from the Holy Land. How beautiful.

40 Mary  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:39:54pm

Would you all accept this proposal for a Palestinian
state?
[Link: www.satirewire.com...]

41 AlienWorkShop Boy  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:42:21pm

#24 Charles 11/19/2003 09:16PM PST

Jumpers? *gasp* =:O That's SICK! Now that just goes beyond anything... I don't know what to say. Geez... talk about stepping beyond the boundaries of civility.

42 Claire  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:44:46pm

Pentagon Cakes, getcher Pentagon cakes here!!!

Are those Osama's knees or his shoes, lol? Reminds me of Tim Conway playing Toulouse Lautrec.

Would be funny if not for the subject matter...ehem...

43 Ayatrollah  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:45:53pm

Unbeknownst to the photographer, these cute little dolls are made of oderless heroin and have been smuggled into the area by their Taliban friends. Either that or they are a made of pigs blood paste and sold by the Mossad.

44 Right Wing Conspirator  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:46:18pm

Oh well. This is clearly the palestinians showing their anger at the repressive situation that the Israelis have them under. I know when I am feeling depressed and angry, I make mold injected plastic figurines of mass murderers of innocent civilians and paint them down to the last detail. Gee, I wonder if this is going to make any news broadcasts like the Presidents speech. Oh, sorry, forgot the breaking story of Laci Peterson Kobe Bryant , uh, Micheal Jackson. Cause thats what's really important these days.

45 rosh  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:46:28pm

This is no Palestinian innovation. Those souvenirs are Chinese-made; they appeared in 2001. Somewhere around here I have a scan of a newspaper photo and caption about it.

46 FH  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:46:48pm

Good News, the US has deployed 20,000 troops near the Syrian border in Iraq.

US Deploys Troops

Hopefully we can exert some pressure on Syria, and kill some jihadis in the process.

47 Right Wing Conspirator  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:48:51pm

#41 AlienWorkShopBoy

talk about stepping beyond the boundaries of civility.


Don't you have to be civil in the first place in order to step beyond the bound of civility?

48 HULUGU  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:54:37pm

what next --matryoshka dolls of mufti al hussaini--arafat hula hoops for the pre-young boy hip thrust workout--abu mazen marbles for that dirt filled street--shaik yassin potato head [no arms/no legs]-- the fun dr. rantisi medical kit for hand severing and decapitation--all sold at terrortoys 'r us--toys for the oppressed and humiliated

49 Ali Al-Beheshti  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:55:05pm

BS"D

If you think that moo slimes are bad now, you should give yourself a real treat and read some of the history of their "culture" before mo ham head. In the period called the "Jahaliya", it was quite common for male tur-boons to bury their children alive, if there was the slightest sign of economic discomfort. Or just to punish there wife, or because they had a bad day. Another of the less attractive habits practiced by these air burglars was cutting off bits and parts of living animals and eating them .


They are only slightly better now, but the fruit does not fall far from the tree. Under the phony facade of "islamic tolerance" (BIG OXYMORON) is simply another dune dwelling savage waiting to kill children, women and any thing it perceives as weaker than it's most despicable self

50 ether  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:56:02pm

thx Charles i'll be sure to use this in my oral report on the religion of peace tommorow !!!

perfect timing.

51 rosh  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:57:18pm

OT: anybody seen HonestReporting's "Relentless" yet? We saw it tonight. Very powerful. Sad to say a couple ppl walked out (including an Israeli) and during the discussion one person asked why don't we just relocate all the poor Israelis to New Jersey. No one agreed with that tho.

52 Q  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:59:41pm

ploome (#35):

And that road began at Yamit.

Or even when Dayan surrendered Har Habayit to the Waqf.

53 zulubaby  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 7:59:53pm

ether (#50)

I trust you've seen these souvenirs too?

54 Teacake  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 8:00:30pm

Those nasty lips look like the fishie's.

55 ether  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 8:07:12pm

zulubaby (#53)


The worst part is I have so much to choose from its rather sickening... between the suicide summer camps, bomb belt babies, and the 5 million pictures of armed children... Add the askimam quotes...

Can't wait til the questions portion.

I'm going to love the rationalizations.

I'll be sure to share some after. It should be highly amusing.

56 Jewels (aka Julian)  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 8:16:25pm

OT:U.S. deploys 20,000 troops
near Syrian border

[Link: www.worldtribune.com...]

57 Azrael  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 8:18:36pm

Wait, VFI was banned? When was this? I've got to see what the little Irish terror-lover did to get the boot.

58 HULUGU  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 8:20:38pm

#49 ali--"air burglars"--lol--don't tell me you're a mideasterner with a sense of humor--oxymoran--n'est pas--prove me wrong dude--i liked "dune dwelling savages" also

59 AlienWorkShop Boy  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 8:23:52pm

#47 Right Wing Conspirator 11/19/2003 09:48PM PST

I'm a little confused... Yes, someone needs a basic standard of "acceptable behaviour" in order to measure what's right and wrong.

But I'm speaking from what I have been taught from birth, that it's completely wrong to belittle a tragedy or even laugh at someone else's pain.

So, I would never think of creating such a thing. But it's obvious other people haven't grown up with the same teachings I had... Hmm. *shiver*

I think I should go to bed now.

60 ploome  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 8:24:41pm

49 Ali Al-Beheshti

can you recommend some books about pre Islamic 'culture'?

61 axiom/Malik al-Malook  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 8:24:54pm

This quotation is for the Indymedia lurkers that think this site is a bunch of racially insensitive morlocks.

Barbara Newman, terrorism documentary investigator, commenting on her view of FBI Al Qaeda Psychic John O'neill.

I had covered terrorism stemming from the Middle East since 1980, when I was a producer for ABC's 20/20. John and I shared an interest in this area and a belief that the U.S. could suffer a tremendous blow from those who espoused a hatred of us and our society. Some found his zeal shrill and annoying. I found it reassuring.


Source

Barbara goes on to tell us a little more about O'neill that can describe LGF.

John had old-fashioned values. He was patriotic. He was religious, never missing a Sunday mass.
62 Ms. Andi  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 8:27:21pm

#57 Azreal

It was on this thread.. And it was, ahem, my first hat tip. Considering the topic of the thread, it was all to telling that VFI got the boot.

63 Camel Prophet  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 8:28:37pm

For anyone who needs further proof of the falsity of the Arab-Palestinian position, check out this website:

[Link: pnews.org...]

Reminder: the Leader of the Free World has done nothing and will do nothing on behalf of the Christians, Hindus, Jews, Buddhists, Spiritualists, Animists, etc who are being murdered, raped, looted, burned, mutilated, exiled, battered, tortured, humiliated, abused, stripped of their children, etc, by his muslim friends, everyday. If you want to be above international law, convert to the cult of terror:

[Link: www.hrcbm.org...]

ISLAM IS TERROR; MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS. WRITE 'EM OFF!

64 ploome  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 8:35:04pm

49 Ali Al-Beheshti

History according to...

[Link: www.wsu.edu...]

Semitic people erupt on the world stage three times: with the growth of Semitic civilizations in Mesopotamia four thousand years ago, the spread of Christianity and Judaism two thousand years ago, and finally, the explosion of Islam fifteen hundred years ago—this last eruption of Semitic culture would produce the major world religion and social system of the modern period.


The Land All Semitic people have their beginnings in the Arabian peninsula; but the great Semitic cultures and civilizations of the early period belong to emigrants, all those who left the Arabian peninsula for Mesopotamia, Palestine, and Africa. It is a great irony of history, then, that the most influential of Semitic cultures would not come from an emigrant people, but from Semites living in the very heart of their origin place.

The Arabian peninsula is probably the last place one would nominate as a cradle of the most influential of human cultures, for it is a harsh and demanding place to live.

65 Cornholio Abu Ban Mind Rays - Kucinich in '04!  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 8:44:43pm

Children's toys.

This makes me really angry.

I shouldn't be surprised, it's well known the Palestinians indoctrinate children into their culture of murder. W's speech today was good in that he said that the Palis don't deserve our support until they have a democratic government (don't hold your breath.) But why did W. recently support the Palis by signing the executive order giving the PLO $20 M of U.S. tax dollars?!?!?!

For all we know, our tax dollars funded the production of that sick "toy" of Osama and the WTC.

66 HULUGU  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 8:45:36pm

#60 ploome--try aristotle's "nicomachean ethics" along with plato's "symposium"--you wouldn't believe how people could use reason in pre-islamic times in places other than the goddamn arab peninsula--its like the hillbillys from appalachia came out of the mountains to rule the world based on the visions of deranged uncle jethro--really really fucked up and sad

67 ploome  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 8:51:29pm

thanks Hulugu,

there doesnt seem to be much when I google.

68 Outsider  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 8:59:29pm
Let's Give Them a State!

Better yet, send in the Germans to protect their oppressed asses.

69 PDM  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 9:00:16pm

OT

Nazimedia is at it again.
And, this time our dear "Dylan Avery" is posting in the comments.

70 zulubaby  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 9:08:06pm

Hey Azrael! Nice to see you :-)

PDM, the funniest thing is Dylan Avery's comment:

If your points of view are so righteuos, "kate fabers underwear", then how come you post using a fake name to hide who you really are. You know you do wrong so you cover your tracks...

LOL. He would know since that's exactly what he tries to do. Thing is, we know about all the names the slime uses. What a pathetic loser.

71 Ms. Andi  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 9:08:47pm

Yeah, but whenever I click a LGF link it redirects to the IDF website. Must be some sort of glich :)

72 PDM  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 9:20:23pm

#70 zulubaby,

What a pathetic loser.

He's probably the one leading the Nazimedia anti-LGF campaign and crying for Amazon and Paypal to cut LGF off.

73 Jono  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 9:25:36pm

Sick.
Next thing, it will be toy models of Auschwitz. or figurines of Hitler.

74 Leigh (a guy)  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 9:31:47pm

OT - Big Fat AP Lie

I've been floating around this evening, parsing passing blogs and gloating over the pathetic turnout to the British anti-Bush demonstrations today when I ran across this AP new story (see sidebar on LGF) headlined "Bush Meets Massive Anti-War Protests".

Based on what I've read on blogs; the AP headline is a bald-faced lie.

Even though I felt that I was pretty immunized against media bias, I was shocked to see such a massive falsehood by AP.

I guess I just have to accept: Virginia, there is no Santa Claus.

75 zulubaby  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 9:32:37pm

PDM (#72)

He's probably the one leading the Nazimedia anti-LGF campaign and crying for Amazon and Paypal to cut LGF off.

There's no doubt in my mind that it's him.

76 hans ze beeman  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 9:35:12pm

#68: Outsider

Even though Robbe, the man mentioned in your link, is a complete moron for suggesting such nonsense, he says something true:

"There is a phalanx of people in the EU who still think (Palestinian leader Yasser) Arafat is a great man. These people must think again."

And long. And right now.

77 Elizabeth  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 9:44:32pm

Nice! :(

78 LightTower  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 9:58:54pm

#21 zulubaby 11/19/2003 09:10PM PST

"LightTower (#15)

"Let's not and say we did" is a joke that I have with a friend of mine. Sorry, I do that from time to time ;-) "

But, but -- that's "The Response!"
What, your family never got the Memo? lol


I'm feeling a little better today, thank you for asking! That's so nice of you. "

Glad to hear you're doing better.

Hang in there, its gonna be a rough ride until Messiah straightens this whole mess out. (I have it on *cough* un- *cough* reliable authority that He's gonna break all the crosses, tear down all the synagogues and churches, then report immediately to the nearset mosque to pray with His Islogical brothers. Wait until they try to brief Him on *that* agenda... )

RoP, my avoir-dupois (pardon my "freedom")

;^}

79 Robert  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 10:03:40pm

Completely OT.

Anyone know why I am unable to log onto ItsHappening.com even if I have cookies enabled?

Driving me crazy.

New York Times website presents the same problem.

On both sites, after I log in, the log in windows pop back up. Can live without the Times but IH is another story.

I cleared all my cookies and know for a fact my browser is accepting cookies because LGF "remembers me."

80 Dave  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 10:05:16pm

a man known as a saviour to a lot of people around the world is a peadophile?

Michael Jackson or Muhammed? You decide.

81 Evan  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 10:21:23pm

OT News...

Michael Moore dedicates his latest oversized propaganda pamphlet, Dude Where's My Country, to the flapjack queen Rachel Corrie

Hat-tip Charles?

82 The Right Wing  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 10:30:22pm

Maybe the FRENCH should give them a state!!!

83 *NEWSFLASH*  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:13:33pm

According to Television reports, a bomb has gone off in an Istanbul shopping mall. No further information at this time.

/ Döbeln

84 zulubaby  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:15:13pm

CNN breaking news:

Huge explosion destroys part of HSBC headquarters in Istanbul; second explosion heard near UK consulate, CNN Turk reports. Details soon
85 Athos  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:15:34pm

Right Wing - not a bad idea. The French are good about talking about new states - after all, it only took them 30 days to go from the French nation to a puppet state of Germany in 1940.

They don't need a state. The Palis already have one. Its called Jordan. If they can't get in, they should toss out their leader who attempted to overthrow the Jordanian government in 1970, make nice to the new King, accept peace, and move in.

86 Josh  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:20:33pm

Want to oppose the kind of crazies who buy these things while cursing Israel and America?

Invest in a vest

Piss them off by donating to equip more Israelis with advanced bullet proof vests. Nothing makes terrorists more angry than a Jew they can't kill.

87 ördög  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:22:43pm

OT

Istambul again:
Three bomb blasts in Istanbul Thursday. First destroyed part of HSBC headquarters building in northern Istanbul. Second blast damages British consulate in town. No word on third or number of casualties. Istanbul stock exchange stops trading.

88 ördög  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:24:03pm

Third blast in residential area.

89 Connecticut Yankee  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:25:01pm

The AP describes the blast as "Explosion Rocks Affluent Part of Turkey" and says "It was not clear if there were any casualties." [4:10 am EST]

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

90 zulubaby  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:25:26pm

Four blasts, according to Ha'aretz.

91 zulubaby  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:27:15pm
11:19 Four big explosions in Istanbul, targeting British consulate and stock market

Thank G-d the networks are discussing Michael Jackson -- that's obviously far more important.

92 Outsider  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:28:45pm

#76 - hans ze beeman

"These people must think again."

I would agree with you if he were to omit the "again" word.

Also, he may be a moron but stupid ideas have a way of becoming reality once they have been repeated and circulated enough.

Who could have believed a few decades ago that Israel would pick Arafat up from the trash bin of History, and provide him with weapons and power?

93 Connecticut Yankee  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:29:31pm

AP just reported that one of the four blasts was near a bank and another near a mosque.

94 Outsider  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:31:07pm

The source for the "four blasts within 10 minutes" news is Al-Jazeera,
I pray they are wrong and it's only two.

95 zulubaby  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:31:21pm

I feel so sorry for the people in Turkey. They've just gone through the horror of the bombings on Shabbos, and now they're being bombed again and again. I keep repeating myself, I know, but this is insanity. What is happening to this world?

96 Outsider  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:34:59pm

Damn, they were right.
Turkish TV reports multiple injuries.

WTF are they trying to do?
My uneducated guess is cause the army to declare a sate of emergency, overthrow the government etc. etc. those freaks are in love with chaos.

97 ördög  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:35:17pm

#95 zulubaby

> I feel so sorry for the people in Turkey.

Same here, I have a few friends in Istanbul.

Latest: Up to five bomb blasts in Istanbul Thursday. At least three killed in first and second bombings that destroyed part of HSBC headquarters building in northern Istanbul. Third and fourh blast damage British consulate in town. Fifth blast in residential area.

98 /d/  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:36:18pm

Five Explosions Rock Downtown Istanbul

[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

STANBUL, Turkey - Five explosions shook Istanbul on Thursday, including blasts in front of the HSBC bank in an affluent district and another across the British consulate, television stations reported.

Body parts were scattered in front of the HSBC bank in Levent district, NTV television reported based on witness accounts.

Another bomb explosion ripped of the wall surrounding the garden of the British consulate in downtown Beyoglu district. Ten people were reported killed in that explosion, private CNN-Turk television said.

Two more explosions followed, including one on the Asian side of this city, televisions said.

The blasts followed Saturday's suicide attacks on two synagogues by two Turkish Islamic militants that killed 23 people.

Al-Qaida claimed responsibility for the synagogue attacks but authorities were trying to authenticate that claim.

99 lizzy  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:38:15pm

horrible horrible news from turkey... I pray that not to many innocent people were killed...

100 zulubaby  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:39:17pm

ördög (#97)

There have been five blasts now? G-d help those people. Why I read the news just before going to bed I'll never know. This is just awful :-(

It's on Fox News now. Ten people killed, apparently.

101 zulubaby  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:41:09pm

Oh my G-d, they just showed a dead body lying in the street.

102 vinmachine  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:42:33pm

Just keep it up you bloodthirsty cowards, your day of reckoning is coming, and you're not going to like it. It is time for all freedom loving, peace loving peoples to rise up and become resolved to the concept of self defensive selective genocide. Hate to say it, but we've got to kill every last one of these extremists, and in the style of the Roman Legions, their families, their animals, raze their cities, plow up their fields and sow salt so nothing grows. Let's get it on!

103 lizzy  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:43:02pm

ill never forget the turkish guy in a shop in Kusadasi who wore a Jerusalem- Betar football shirt.. he was so thrilled when he heard we were from israel, he gave the kids each a free bracelet.. He was one of many people in the area who spoke soem hebrew, and had welcome signs up in hebrew in his shop...
poor poor people.

104 zulubaby  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:46:16pm
11:34 One of explosions in Istanbul goes off in street where Israeli embassy located; embassy staff unhurt
105 lizzy  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:48:45pm

poor zulu, its gonna be a sleepless one for you for a while...
horrific

106 ördög  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:50:34pm

zulubaby

It is chaotic, there may have been only 3 blasts, but as it was reported by different people, the information is sort of mixed up.

I'll try to get some insider view and comments from one of my friends, later on, hopefully.

107 zulubaby  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:52:45pm

lizzy, I'm so agitated and upset now.

5 explosions rock Istanbul; 13 reported dead

According to initial reports, the apparent targets of the bombs were the British consulate, the HSBC Bank – a building that houses the Israeli consulate, a shopping center and the Turkish Stock Exchange. Istanbul stock exchange has halted all trading.

It looks totally chaotic there, the Turkish guy reporting on Fox News sounds like he's about to start hyperventilating. Poor thing.

108 zulubaby  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:53:40pm

ördög, your friend lives there?

109 ördög  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:57:18pm

Zulubaby, yes. She 's an ethnic Turk.

110 Connecticut Yankee  Wed, Nov 19, 2003 11:59:48pm

zulubaby

Here's a link to a report from Arutz Sheva: [Link: www.israelnn.com...]

(IsraelNN.com) Israel Radio is reporting that a number of terrorist bombs were detonated in Istanbul targeting the stock exchange, British Embassy, and a shopping center. There are conflicting reports stating the number of bomb explosions were three, four, or five.

Israel diplomatic official Amir Arnon reports the bomb blasts near the shopping center were not far from the Israeli Embassy, but all members of the Israeli diplomatic staff and their families are safe. Members of Arnon’s staff stated the building did shake from the magnitude of the blasts.

I will be thinking of you-- hope you can get some rest later on today.

111 zulubaby  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:00:39am

ördög, this guy did an amazing job of updating the events from the bombings on Shabbos, I'm sure he'll have something going soon. I hope your friend is safe.

112 Rayra's wishing he wasn't too worn out to re-up  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:00:55am

MSNBC & CNN carrying live feeds, but droning on, Foxnews appears asleep at the wheel...

113 zulubaby  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:02:15am

Rayra, Fox News is all over it.

114 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:03:23am

It's on Fox News now as breaking news-- five explosions.

115 Rayra's wishing he wasn't too worn out to re-up  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:03:47am

weird. guess it was an O'reilly commercial when I clicked through, watching it on Foxnews now. what chaos.

116 Döbeln  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:05:51am

"MSNBC & CNN carrying live feeds, but droning on, Foxnews appears asleep at the wheel..."

Gotta give their website crew credit though - they had the "Red banner" up before anyone else...

117 ördög  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:06:48am

zulubaby, I hope so too. This is so sick... I just do not have words at the moment ...

Were just redying myself to crash, now this...

118 Rayra's wishing he wasn't too worn out to re-up  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:10:53am

I've got a handful of very distant relatives there IN Istanbul, on my mother's side...

119 zulubaby  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:15:10am

Connecticut Yankee, thanks. I'm just feeling shaken from this, I'll go to bed soon.

ördög, I hope everything is okay. Have tea, that's always comforting.

120 Elizabeth  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:15:22am

5 explosions; 10 dead...so far...evil BASTARDS!

121 Rayra's wishing he wasn't too worn out to re-up  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:18:31am

Brit Foreign Secretary Jack Straw on CNN just handed a LLL reporter his ass for trying to assert the explosions where somehow Bush's fault, touting Iraq as the trigger. Straw's reply was 'terrorism such as 9/11 was planned and trained for in the Presidency preceding Bush', commentators expanding that ROPMA attacks occurred before during and likely after action in Iraq.

Some statement that all the targets were tied to Britain.

122 JH  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:21:30am

I've been watching the BBC footage.The worst I've seen since 9/11.Whole buildings have collapsed.I feel physically ill.

Random thoughts:Martial law will surely be declared in Turkey;the Jihad sympathizers will march in London as if nothing of this mattered;I don't think the timing is a coincidence at all,if the Jihadis can blow shit up in London today,they certainly will.

I don't think this is a safe day to be in London.Al-Qaeda and their friends are very fond of synchronized attacks.I'll be relieved if this,as awful as it is,marks the end of the current wave for the time being.

123 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:21:37am

Israel is sending emergency rescue crews to Istanbul:

Israel Offers Assistance Following Attacks in Turkey
12:08 Nov 20, '03 / 25 Cheshvan 5764

(IsraelNN.com) The Foreign Ministry has established a hotline telephone number for persons wishing to inquire as to the well-being of friends/family in Turkey. That number is 02-530-3155.

ZAKA reports having already contacted Turkish diplomatic officials in Israel, offering all assistance and expertise of its volunteers.

Magen David Adom has contacted the Red Crescent Society in Turkey, offering to send teams of various levels of MDA emergency medical personnel and equipment to assist following the multiple bomb attacks in Istanbul.

124 Rayra's wishing he wasn't too worn out to re-up  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:21:51am

car bomb outside PUK HQ in Kirkuk, Iraq as well. and the assassination of a coalition-related IRaqi official far west of Bagdad.

125 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:23:37am

#124 Rayra

My thoughts and prayers are with your family too.

Not far OT: how long until Ramadan is over?

126 Rayra's wishing he wasn't too worn out to re-up  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:25:47am

Targets in Istanbul - Neighborhood of Brit Consulate. HSBC(?) (Bank), neighborhood of Levent (?)...

127 PDM  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:26:33am

I was going to post this earlier for a bit of humor (but then decided to scrap it).

However, in light of the latest bombing by suicidal Islamic* scum, I offer the following:
---
In the spirit of the last Osama bin Laden love toy,

Martyrs Ltd. presents something you really should not click on unless you are of legal age and not easily offended.
---
Shove it and test it Islamic* bastards!


* a safe assumption

128 ördög  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:28:36am

#125 Connecticut Yankee

Tuesday Nov 25.

129 Rayra's wishing he wasn't too worn out to re-up  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:29:40am

Thank you, but save your efforts for others. I'm ashamed to say I barely know their names. My Navy father met and wed and spirited away my Greek-Turk mother in Istanbul 40+yrs ago. I've only visited that side of the family in Athens and Istanbul 3x in as many decades.

130 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:29:41am

#128 Ordog

Thank you-- a lot of us will be counting the days ...

131 lizzy  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:30:18am

Connecticut
We were invaluable to them during the earthquakes as well,, medical teams , search and rescue, etc. even sending a team of Israel -scout counsellors to keep the kids in the temporary tent camps occupied. We consider turkey a good ally.. and they can put up with us Israelis invading en masses their tourist places with great patience.., as some of my countrymen aren't exactly ideal tourists sometimes..( ill save that bit of national dirty laundry in from you all )
poor poor turkey,, this news is just awful.

132 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:34:48am

#131 lizzy

That's good to know, particularly when there's so much hatred loose in the world.

133 Rayra's wishing he wasn't too worn out to re-up  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:35:08am

Fox showing some scene between two high buildings, a dozen+ cars caved in. And I'm depressed to note that I am now completely familiar with the appearance of cars in a blast zone, able to note which panels are stove in thus indicating the direction of the blast... thanks for THAT skill, RoP. Bastards.

134 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:40:42am

Fox reports at least 11 dead, 114 injured.

135 Rayra's wishing he wasn't too worn out to re-up  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:41:08am

What is it, GMT +2, 1:45pm there?

136 zulubaby  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:43:01am

CNN makes me sick. "We don't know who did this and we don't know why", "... linked to President Bush's trip to London". Idiots.

137 ördög  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:44:18am

Rayra, it's 12:44 there.

138 zulubaby  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:45:10am
139 lizzy  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:45:31am

Conneticut
[Link: www.idf.il...]
thisis the rescue work the IDFdid in india during the earthquaeks, there is the turkish ones on this link too as well, but im in the middle of working so ill look
later

140 lizzy  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:48:26am

sorry all i knowmy last post is off topic,, just these blasts are too familair for me to deal with .. it was almost exactly a year ago the 20 bust blew up in our neghbourhood, andi have that same awfful numb feeling form this stuff in turky thta i have evrytime i hear about ( or HEAR) a bombing

141 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:52:33am

#139 lizzy

Thank you for posting the link-- especially when this news brings back so many painful memories for you.

142 Rayra's wishing he wasn't too worn out to re-up  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:54:00am

Thank you both. It's coming up on 3am here, I must go to sleep.

Bear witness everyone to the monstrous actions of jihadi death-cultists, all in the name of Allah.

143 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:55:05am

More bad news-- two mortar shell strikes in Israel (thankfully no injuries).

[Link: www.israelnn.com...]

144 zulubaby  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:56:53am

Night Rayra.

145 ördög  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:59:01am

#140 lizzy

We are all off topic on this thread, and your comment is absolutely on topic in the context.

It is the same in Israel, New York, Instanbul... the scope may differ in each location, but the evil has the same face and source.

Hopw many have to die, yet, until people wake up?

146 ördög  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 1:00:41am

Night all, gotta get some sleep, am trashed.

147 PDM  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 1:01:25am

#140 lizzy,

No need to apologize. People who have been terrorized do not need to apologize. And the people doing the terrorizing just need to die.

148 zulubaby  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 1:03:00am

Goodnight all, I must sleep. Be safe.

149 Outsider  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 1:03:25am

#143 - Connecticut Yankee

Some good news in the local Israeli arena:
Head of Al-Aqsa brigades - Nabil Abu-Qbeita,
arrested at the town of Yata, hiding in a water well.


And some horrible news from Turkey:
some report as many as 500 people injured.
(official numbers at 169)
The local Istanbul phone network collapsed.

150 robofund  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 1:03:52am

Let's Give Them a State!


How about California? or at least Hollywood!

151 JH  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 1:11:46am

It appears now there were two major explosions,not three.The confusing accounts were due to people calling in from all around Istanbul.

152 Jewels (aka Julian)  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 1:12:41am

Damnnation...

153 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 1:15:20am

#149 Outsider

Hope the local public health docs test the water in the well!

500 injured in Istanbul? Terrible! They'll need all the help they can get.

154 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 1:17:27am

Jack Straw reported as saying that 3 or 4 employees at the British consulate did not answer roll call.

155 ördög  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 1:28:53am
156 Jewels (aka Julian)  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 1:37:50am

From the DEBKA files:

Coordinated suicide car bombings in Istanbul Thursday leave at least 15 dead 320 injured at London-based HSBC bank branch, adjacent Metro City shopping mall in Levent district and British consulate. Rescue teams in action at mountains of debris.

Four members of British consulate killed, 30 injured in and around building. Bush London schedule is changed after Istanbul multi-casualty terror strike. Istanbul stock exchange stops trading. European bourses drop.

Al Qaeda times coordinated terrorist offensive against US ally Turkey for Bush visit to London five days after synagogue blasts killed 25, injured 300. Six Turk extremists charged with Saturday attacks. Jewish Agency emergency telephone no. 972-2-620-2202.

157 Outsider  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 1:40:49am

an anonymous call to 'Anatolya' news agency:
IBDA-C & Al-Qaida claim responsibility for attacks.

158 Ed Moran:Abu Voice of Iceland's Love Child  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 1:54:05am

The Turks obviously had it coming. Imagine the gall, a nation of Muslims living in a secular democracy, with diplomatic relations with Israel.


Apostates.


Seriously, I hope this destroys whatever slim support the Islamonazis have in Turkey.

159 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 1:59:14am

#158 Ed Moran

Where's the Pink Tank Brigade when we need them?

160 JWarrior  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:03:58am

RE: Istanbul bombs

I bet once again more Muslims have died than any other 'targetted' group.

When is the Muslim world going to wake up and realise that their AQ nut job 'friends' don't care about planting bombs in their own Islamic areas?

Maybe the 1.5 billion Muslim vs 15 million Jews is actually more balanced than I thought!

They sure as hell don't care about blowing up 100 muslims to get to a few Jews.

I hope there are not too many innocent dead and injured of any faith and hope the British Consulate staff are OK too.

161 Jetstorm  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:05:10am

Congratulations Al-Qaida. You have just made another hard core enemy.

Turkey was a nation that had just elected an Islamic party into power in it's Parliament. It was a nation that, despite everything to gain by doing so, refused to send ground troops or allow the U.S. to base forces on it's soil during the Iraq war. It was a nation that was never particularly cozy with Israel and the new party in command was taking steps to distance themselves from Israel and sympathize with the Palestinians. And it was becoming anti-American as well.

Had you just been patient, and left well enough alone, the Turkish people might have eventually embraced your sick, twisted ideology and willingly submitted to shariah in about, oh, I don't know, 30 years time. You may have then had an ideal place from which to launch directly into Europe and bring the jihad right to the heart of West.

But no, you couldn't do it. You just couldn't wait to act out your vile, bloody fantasies of martyrdom whilst killing Jews and infidels. Too late. You have just done what a five year, five billion dollar media blitzkrieg of American propaganda could never do; swing the hearts and minds of the Turkish people, over to our side. You animals have badly overplayed your hand and you don't even know it.

Oh but you will find out soon. I'm going to enjoy watching Turkish security forces, who are not nearly as squeamish as we are about "the rights of the accused," dismantle your network one cell at a time. I wish I could be there to see one or two of your thugs get worked over deep in the bowels of one of those world-famous Turkish prisons, screaming bloody murder as the Turkish cops "extract information" from him. I hope they impale the bodies on stakes and place them in front of whatever your favorite radical Turkish mosque is, as a warning to those who are thinking of martyrdom as a career path.

For the good people of Turkey, we grieve with you. We've been there. Welcome to the club. Hopefully, most of you on the fence about this have just come over to our side, now that you've seen how psycho Al-Qaida really is. If you don't want what happened today to ever happen again, I strongly advise you to do the following; do not concede one inch to their demands. Dig your heels in, forge ever closer ties with the U.S., and together we can beat them. We can make them pay for what they did today. These punks understand only one language, the language of brute force. Stomp on them like roaches. Show no mercy!

If you need our help, all you have to do is ask. And I hope next time we ask for your help, you will readily give it.

Now, to the war!

162 JWarrior  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:08:26am

#161 Jetstorm

To the Turkish AQ Terrorists,

The Midnight Express is coming for you!

163 Jetstorm  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:08:33am

One more thing: shouldn't someone who is able roust Charles up out of bed for this? Since this is obviously a serious deal.

Boy, I don't think he'll be happy when he opens up his paper this morning.

164 Cybrludite  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:15:17am

That Bin Laden figure looks like a squeeky-toy. I'm sure my dog would love having one to gnaw on. (Haven't read the thread yet, so sorry if someone's beaten me to the remark...)

165 danmi  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:16:47am

#161 My sentiments exactly. As awful as I feel whenever I see innocents suffer and die at the hands of these scum, people all over the world must wake up and understand...this is not an "American Problem!" These bastards want everyone to die. That means you. Get angry now, if you aren't already.

166 danmi  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:20:25am

#163 Let Charles sleep. He sees this all day long, all the time. Again, how many of these is it going to take before the rest of the world gets pissed off!?

167 /d/  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:22:53am

#161:

Regarding Turkey's response to these terrorist attacks, I'd had similar thoughts after the synagogue bombings a few days. When Turkey starts bashing Al-Q heads in and breaking up cells (not to mention using the Turkish war on terror to stomp on any other troublesome groups operating in Turkey), well, don't look for any Turkish versions of Camp Gitmo, to say the least. An Al-Q stooge under Turkish interrogation will be begging to be sent to Camp Gitmo instead.

168 Connecticut Yankee  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:23:36am

Meanwhile, back at the IAEA ranch, this from ABC News:

VIENNA, Austria Nov. 20 — The International Atomic Energy Agency has identified Russia, China and Pakistan as probable suppliers of some of the technology Iran used to enrich uranium as part of its suspect nuclear programs, diplomats said Thursday.

No surprises there.

169 Jafub  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:23:39am

Deathtoll now 25.

Another stupid move on the part of Al-Q.

170 WESTWARD HO  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:34:01am

Attn Jihadis,
This is Allah speaking: NO MORE SUICIDE BOMBINGS
IAM FUCKING RUNNING OUT OF HOURIS & BOYS
TO SUPPLY YOU - SIX MONTH MORATORIUM PLEASE

171 english bloke  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:38:29am

Anyone watching Blair & Bush live from London?

172 JWarrior  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:39:49am

#171 english bloke

Yep, on Sky News

173 #170  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:41:12am

Allah can't spell? : )

174 Jafub  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:43:34am

#171 Yep

And gettin mightily pissed off at the stupid questions being posed.

175 scaramouche  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:43:49am

#165 danmi

They may start to see it as not just an "American Problem", but too much of the world is already convinced that the whole thing is Israel's (and the Jews') fault. If Israel wasn't such a brutal occupier; if Israel wasn't building a fence; if Israel would only succumb to a "one State solution; if Israel would just evaporate, etc., etc.--all the problems with angry Islamists would evaporate.

For anything to change, the world must realize that, like the Nazis, the Islamists use hatred of Jews and Israel as a way to unify and rally the faithful. They must see that they have designs on the entire world, and that Israel and the Jews are the excuse they are using in order to implement their plans for conquest.

176 JWarrior  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:56:14am

The British consul general is missing.

That's gonna piss Tony B off no end.

I'm sure this won't cause those idiots in London to even break a stride of their protest march!

177 Anne Elk (not an elk)  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:57:07am

Absolutely OT but amusing:

Australia delays sheep export after activists add ham to feed

A group of activists fed ham pizza to sheep that were being sent to the Middle East, in hopes that the end users would not be able to eat them.

What's the expression, "You can't make this stuff up"?

Hmm, I think I'll send it to Taranto.

178 JWarrior  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:58:06am

Why does Adam Bolton of Sky News always look like he is stoned?

OPEN YOUR EYES, MATE!

179 scaramouche  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 3:12:41am

OT: Forgive me, but I need to rant about the utter hypocrisy of the Canadian government. For the past three weeks the media here have regaled us with the story of Maher Arar, the Syrian-Canadian who, while passing through the U.S., was summarily shipped off to Syria. Arar was held for 18 months are repeatedly tortured.

You wouldn't believe the howls of outrage we've been hearing in the media and in Parliament: for no good reason, an "innocent" Canadian was sent to Syria by those nasty Americans, who like to subcontract their torture to keep their own hands clean. (Apparently, the fact that Arrar's wallet was stuffed with the names of as Quaeda contacts wasn't worth mentioning.)

At the same time, there were hints that someone in Canada, uh, gave information to American officials, because they seemed awfully well versed in the details of Arar's personal life.

Now it turns out that the Canadian Government willingly and willfully provided this information to the U.S.; that Canada was in cahoots with the iniquitous Yanks THE WHOLE TIME; that Arar was sent back to Syria "for reasons of national security."

I just love it when our Simon Pure image slips a bit, and we are revealed for the sactimonious hypocrites we really are. And no, I am not a self-hating Canadian. I am a Canadian patriot who hopes that my country finally takes of its EU rose coloured glasses and sees the world with insight and clarity for a change.

180 Frank IBC  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 3:15:52am

#24 Charles:

The "jumpers" would appear to be about 30 feet tall.

But "perspective" isn't these people's strong suit in any case.

181 Bender  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 3:16:56am

Hmm - Relentless -

I was planning on buying a copy of the DVD for my parents - in an underhanded plan to sacrifice the last vestige of their loonyness to reality.

The problem is, ive been working 16 hour days since the initial announcement, and have lost the link to the donation page, and lost the name of the organaization who sponsors it.

Can someone kindly email me some info - be sure to put LGF in the subject line of the email, or Ill delete it ;)

182 Yasser Ican Abu Gee (mark holland)  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 3:17:37am

#176 JWarrior

I'm sure this won't cause those idiots in London to even break a stride of their protest march!

Today's explosions prove what we have been saying all along. Blair and Bush's warmongering has fired up the Islamic World and united it against us.

The fact the September 11 happened before we carpet bombed the innocent people of Afghanistan and Iraq and their loved rulers is irrelevent.

/'peace' protestor whine.

183 David  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 3:19:59am

Where is Snow White???

184 Yasser Ican Abu Gee (mark holland)  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 3:21:08am

#179 scaramouche

Ever seen the 49th Parallel? That was made to try and get America to join WWII, there needs to be a reverse action movie made for Canada's L3s in 2004.

185 ördög  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 3:30:34am

OT:
JI Racket

From KARACHI NEWS: Terming the Jihad Fund collection campaign of the Jamaat-e-Islami extortion, the members of the National Assembly belonging to the Muttahida Qaumi Movement have appealed to the President, Gen Pervez Musharraf, and Prime Minister Zafarullah Jamali, to stop this extortion.

The Muttahida legislators demanded of the JI to stop its campaign, as it was extortion and its activists established camps in the city and other parts of the country and were collecting money forcibly from traders and citizens.

The MNAs stated that the JI workers were also forcibly stopping vehicles and threatening the occupants to contribute to the Jihad Fund otherwise, "Jihad would also be launched against them".

The legislators further said the JI chief specially came from the NFWP for the collection of money while the cities, towns, and UC Nazims were also threatening the citizens that they would be arrested if they did not contribute to the Fund.

These Nazims, the MNAs alleged, were also threatening contractors with cancellation of contracts in case they did not comply.

They said the Muttahida received complaints from citizens, traders and contractors about the extortion by the JI and the party was left with no other option but to appeal to the president and premeir to intervene and stop the JI
campaign.

186 Ed Moran: Abu Wichita County Regular  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 3:34:57am

Posted this in a slow thread yesterday:

Cycle of Violence Watch in al Reuters


An Ecuadorean tourist became the latest victim of the cycle of violence, shot as she made her way through the passport check on the border with Jordan near the Red Sea resort of Eilat.


The gunman, a truck driver from an Islamist area of Jordan, passed through the Jordanian border terminal and crouched among cattle trucks lined up at the Israeli terminal before opening fire from 20 yards.

I suppose it was a cycle of violence because Ecuadorean women in Israel frequently shoot into Jordan?


And for reasons I can't quite understand, Bush is making noises about the jihad filter security fence again.

187 WESTWARD HO  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 3:46:00am

a religion of for & by butchers

188 scarshapedstar  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 3:57:04am

Aww, how cute...

189 ak  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 3:59:47am

186 Ed

"And for reasons I can't quite understand, Bush is making noises about the jihad filter security fence again."

...it's just "W" appeasing his arab brothers once again. The reason why I have mixed feelings for this president; sometimes he just pisses me off.

190 Joseph  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:08:08am

It is comforting to know that probably the only difference btwn. OBL (may he burn in Hell) today and the doll is that the doll has its eyes open.

191 Al  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:10:21am

Look at this quote from a dumbass anti war loony bin:

Lindsey German of Stop The War Coalition said she did not expect the Istanbul attacks to dampen the protests. "I think people will still turn out in force," she said. "We said before the war that these sorts of attacks would increase as Britain and America were potential targets. The only way to stop this is not by bombing people but by finding a political solution." The rally is to culminate in Trafalgar Square with the toppling of a giant effigy of Bush in an echo of Saddam Hussein's statue being pulled down in Baghdad.

These people are SO naive and SO dumb. ARGHH!

192 AG abu Houston  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:12:41am

Apparently

The British Consul General was killed in the blasts.

193 Engineer  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:14:46am

ATTENTION all of you scum from Indymedia and elsewhere that calls this site and its posters racists and worse.

Read this thread from post #83 concerning the bombs in Istanbul. Bombs that that killed Muslim Turks and a couple of British. A typical post is from Zulubaby in post #95:

“I feel so sorry for the people in Turkey. They've just gone through the horror of the bombings on Shabbos, and now they're being bombed again and again. I keep repeating myself, I know, but this is insanity. What is happening to this world?”

Or from lizzy in post #99:

“horrible horrible news from turkey... I pray that not to many innocent people were killed...”

A quick look shows similar posts from Rayra, Connecticut Yankee, PDM, Danmi, jetstorm, Jwarrior, and Ed Morgan.

No Jews, Americans or Israelis were involved, just Muslims and British. Yet the people on this site are concerned, outraged and sad at the lost of innocent lives.

We oppose terrorists and those that enable them and we are outraged at the lost of lives, regardless of who they are.

194 AG abu Houston  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:15:11am

AK!!!

Dude!

Funny story for you.

My computer at home is down so call me instead...

Contact Ed Moran by email... he knows where I work and how to get in touch with me...

195 AK47PUNDIT  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:15:38am

#12 happycynic.

Loved your apt observation of democracies at war.

The Islamists better watch out as if they keep pissing off a western democracy, the repercussions will likely be huge and even bigger than what we've seen in Afghanistan and Iraq.

I don't think they've every truly experienced a Western-style total war, if they keep pushing it, they might.

196 Joseph  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:18:41am
Someone put a lot of thought and effort into mass-producing this.

Look, nobody is saying the SandNazis aren't clever and entrepreneurial, they are -- just in an evil way.

197 Smit  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:21:43am

Update from London.

I just had a wander out to where the protesters are meeting. Mallet St is about 5 mins from my workplace. I saw about 500 people. Most were just your general rent-a-mob bunch carrying "Stop Bush" placards. There was a contingent from the MAB (Muslim Association of Britain) - so I guess they didn't get the memo about staying away from the protests.

What struck me was the vast number of photographers. I must have seen about 50 lining the projected early route. Also there were a couple of Americans carrying a sign that said "The tea is in the harbour" what did that mean? I know it's a reference to the Boston Tea Party, but in this context? Maybe a reference to rebelling against "King" George? Too much to hope that this crowd would protest high taxes!

Many business people were standing on the street, smoking outside their offices, sneering at anyone not in a suit saying stuff like "we're paying for this, go get a job".

It's really grey & overcast, I think it's going to pour any time now…

198 Shipman  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:22:23am

OT While waiting for Charles to finish the morning hunt.

Now that VFI has commited sideways can we try a two week trial and see if Yair has been rehabed?

199 Ed Moran: Abu Wichita County Regular  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:29:43am

AG in HOU


He should post something here if he does, as I don't normally check my home email at work.

200 JWarrior  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:29:56am

***NEWS FLASH***

The Whitehouse has been evacuated.

201 Norwegian kafir  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:36:15am

OBL's beard is too long...


[Link: www.faithfreedom.org...] Support a global movement of ex-muslims, bringing Islam down from within.

202 dhimmi smits  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:37:03am

despite warnings that he'll go blind, friedman is jerking off again today

203 jimmytheclaw  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:45:40am

OT

seems anti capitalism moonbats are at work in miami they car swarmed the mayors car

204 Dirk Diggler  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:46:35am

Mr. E Train,

Why are the Joes fighting some made up group looking to take over the world, when there are so many real evil goverments?

You're probably thinkling of the lame cartoons. The old GI Joe and GI Joe: Special Missions comic books were excellent, if somewhat dark. Much of the content dealt with the GI Joe team members experiences in Vietnam and the alienation that resulted from their return to a society that didn't care about them. As for the Special Missions, they often had the teams fighting in very real hot spots like Afghanistan, SE Asia , and the Western Sahara. Seizing hijacked airliners bent on suicide missions, battling Red Army Faction terrorists, tricking Russian Special forces into rescuing hostages held at Iranian military installations. In terms of unflinching realism and accuracy, the GI Joe: Special Missions comics were better than most of the crap that Hollywood churns out (notably Executive Action or any Tom Clancy novel adaptation), and certainly better than the atrocious 24.

205 ak  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:49:54am

194

AG...

H Y D ?

(how ya do'in)


page me, I'll return your call


713-891-9597

Beautiful day in Houston amigo!

206 AlienWorkShop Boy  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:52:57am

#179 scaramouche 11/20/2003 05:12AM PST

Hi. I'm another Canadian who just started posting to this site. I was alwasy curious as to what was really happening with that Arar guy... But I was just too busy to bother following up and reading what really happened.

Thanks for the update. :)

207 Frank IBC, Abu Dead Celtic Witch  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:55:56am

JWarrior:

I went over on Fox, ten minutes ago, the story was there (with no details); I just went back and now it's gone. Haven't seen anything on the Washington Post's site.

Maybe it was just Colin Powell's BS setting off a smoke alarm or something.

Is that "Pentagon" made of white chocolate?

208 Ed Moran: Abu Wichita County Regular  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:56:49am

White House evacuation over. Small plane entered air defense perimeter around WH, has no left.

209 jimmytheclaw  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:59:19am

hmmm... to be correct they dont want a state they want their own country i live in one of 5 states which is a small part of my country ok back to coffee

210 Ed Moran: Abu Wichita County Regular  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:59:53am

Zulubaby-

Debka reports Mossad warning of possible attacks against Jewish/Israeli interests in South Africa.

211 jimmytheclaw  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 5:03:42am

woops my 0 key sticks that shoulda been 1 of 50 states

212 Maximum Leader  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 5:04:36am

LAST!...

Brought to you by Palestinian funmaker Milton-BOMBley.

213 jimmytheclaw  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 5:11:47am

OT
how about a little levity someone sent me a joke

CINDERELLA wants to go to the ball, but her wicked stepmother won't let her.
As Cinderella sits crying in the garden, her fairy godmother appears, and
promises to provide Cinderella with everything she needs to go to the ball, but
only on two conditions.
"First, you must wear a diaphragm." Cinderella agrees.
"What's the second condition?" "You must be home by 2:00 A.M. Any later and
your diaphragm will turn into a pumpkin."

Cinderella agrees to be home by 2:00 A.M. The appointed hour comes and goes,
but Cinderella doesn't show up. Finally, at 5:00 A.M she shows up, looking
love struck and very satisfied.

"Where have you been?" demands the Fairy Godmother. "Your diaphragm was
supposed to turn into a pumpkin three hours ago!!!"
"I met a prince, Fairy Godmother. He took care of everything."
The Fairy Godmother stated, "I know of no prince with that kind of power!
Tell me his name!"

Cinderella replied, I can't remember, exactly, ... Peter, Peter, something or
other..."

214 Nexus  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 5:17:35am

Someone please tell me this is a joke.

215 Ed Moran: Abu Cash Strawn 3820  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 5:25:18am

AG


How funny is your story?

216 Ed Moran: Abu Cash Strawn 3820  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 5:26:48am

213

Yes, and the punch line was "Peter Peter Pumpkin Eater".


I got it.

217 John Gibbon  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 5:27:20am

#161 Jetstorm

I was going to say something along similar lines, but you hit every mark.

It will be very interesting to see Turkey's reaction in the next few days. Turkey is the last place they should have attacked. Now it's Muslims against Muslims.

...I wonder where all this demolition equipment is coming from? Syria? where remnants of saddam's regime exsist.

218 Clutch  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 5:31:46am

Isn't that the prototype for the OBL Memorial Urinal? Y'know, pi$$ be down his throat 'n all?

(I'm also thinking of an updated line from Blazing Saddles: "Cake-gram for Arafat!")

219 Occasional Reader  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 5:57:27am
White House evacuation over. Small plane entered air defense perimeter around WH, has no left.

I guess this explains the loud fighter-jet-engine noise I was hearing outside about 90 minutes ago?

Fox news is now saying it was a false radar blip.

220 dsesq67  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 5:58:36am

Please tell me this isn't true. Sick bastards.

221 Big L  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 6:24:05am

Plane over W.H.---It disappears but F-16 scrambled.
Reminds me of the man that parchuted onto the Statue of Liberty about 10 days before the WTC was attacked. And how it was treated like a big joke byt the TV news with the police struggling to get at the guy and how it was so funny that it might only be mis-demeanor trespass...but uh-oh it could have been viewed as a test of the preparations.
I think there needs to be rocket-launchers quietly put on the roof of the W.H. Maybe as work men on the roof.

222 zulubaby  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 7:06:00am

Ed Moran (#210)

I know, I read about it and I'm sick at the thought. It's chaotic enough there as it is.

223 Jakester  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 7:20:51am

Don't those mindless fools blame Israel for 9/11? It couldn't be a Muslim, cause Islam is the RoP!

224 gijoe  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 8:08:22am

yeah and what do you think they think when they see dildo ads and vaginal creams all over the place in the US? Dog on man and Dog on woman sex, photos of nuns having sex with donkeys... etc?

I would think to them a wtc statuette is tame compared to some of the things westerners do.

225 zulubaby  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 8:20:02am

gijoe (#224)

Dog on man and Dog on woman sex, photos of nuns having sex with donkeys... etc?

How weird, I've never seen ads for those things "all over the place" in the US. Where do you live and do the attendants know that you have access to the Internet?

226 SoCalJustice  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 8:24:53am

(#225) zulubaby:

Despite what you may have heard to the contrary, DC is nothing like what gijoe just described. ;-)

Seriously - what the hell is he talking about?

227 Judith Gordon  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 9:12:33am
I bet once again more Muslims have died than any other 'targetted' group.

As I understand it, most Turks are neither Sunni nor Shiite. In fact they are a third sect that is quite moderate and peaceful has not been supportive of Wahhabism in any form. Most radical Sunnis and Shiites do not consider them to even be Muslims. Therefore by the lunacy of the terrorists, they are not killing their own. They are killing traitorous false Muslims.

I am pleased to Israel is offering help. Unfortunately, Israel is the world expert on post bomb trauma work.

Does anyone think the Turks are going to make sure no little children get hurt when they start their targetted killings of the bomber's leaders and collaborators? Does anyone think the media will care if they don't, seeing as they aren't Jews and therefore aren't subject to the world's double standard?

Does anyone think I am asking rhetorical questions?

228 BH  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 9:19:19am

Let's see... waist high, thick pouty lips... but isn't it supposed to be made of soft latex?

229 Piso Mojado  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 9:24:23am

I'm curious as to who makes these things. I'm guessing they're imported, but from where?

230 dsesq67  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 9:59:08am

#224

Words from that alternative universe of that overly decadent alternative US--sounds like fun!!!

What hallucinogens do I ingest to get there? Hash? Khat?

By the way, gijoe, does you Imam know you read such decadent infidel material? Allah would not be pleased. No 70 virgins for you!

231 zulubaby  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 10:19:00am

SoCalJustice (#226)

Seriously - what the hell is he talking about?

Apparently the attendants caught him using the computer and have hauled him back to his room, so we may never know.

232 Leah  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 10:49:07am

I'm sorry to say this BUT...We need to RETHINK the establishing of a Palestinian State. It WILL BE Terrorism and Destabilization CENTRAL if it is given acknowledgment and perks of a real COUNTRY and whats going on now will be accelerated, be more sophisticated once these people get the protection of a World Wide recognized Country.

Lets think this over..SERIOUSLY people.

233 Flaming Sword  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 11:34:00am

Leah #232

I very much agree. Besides, they have a state--22 of them to be exact (or is it 23?). Send them back to Jordan/Syria/Egypt and be done with it.

234 Throbert McGee  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 11:49:21am

Dog on man and Dog on woman sex, photos of nuns having sex with donkeys... etc?

OMG, I think it's Rick Santorum (R-Penn.)!!!

Senator, I find you kind of hot, and if you ever want to "explore" a little with a buddy -- kick back on the couch with a few beers, maybe check out the Spice channel, see what "develops" -- just drop me an email. I would never tell!!!

235 plankton  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:09:47pm

Atlas Shrugged

Look what it did for Japan all those years after the US dropped the 2 bombs.

We should try it for a change.

236 Leah  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 12:15:26pm

Flaming: Someone said..its 26 Islamic Countries. Enough anyway. This needs to be RE...THUNK (I dont think thats a word..but...)

237 Henry S.  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:13:56pm

Let's Give Them a State!

Not to bait Charles but I'm curious as to how you and other Bush supporters can reconcile the folly of this notion with unwavering faith in the man who is leading the effort.

238 BH  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:30:45pm

#237 Henry S.

Easy. Since Bush is the guy who suggested it, and the idea is folly, as you said, than by definition we don't have unwavering faith in him. See?

But wavering faith is still more than I have in anybody on the Democrat side right now.

239 JWarrior  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:32:18pm

#224 gijoe

"I would think to them a wtc statuette is tame compared to some of the things westerners do."

WTC statuettes, yes
Flying plains into buildings and celebrating it, NO!

Just because there are some right idiots in the western world doesn't mean everyone does the things you mention. I'm sure there are many more good people in the W

To be honest I didn't even know half the stuff you mentioned goes on, but then I guess you would have to look in the right places to find it, eh? (They certainly don't advertise that crap in my neck of the woods!)

#225 Zulubaby

"Where do you live and do the attendants know that you have access to the Internet?"

LOL! ouch! hehehehe. With cuts like that the L3 doesn't stand a chance against you ZB! I kinda feel sorry for them.

240 JWarrior  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:35:56pm

W = West than bad.

Preview is a damn fine invention and I must make full use of it, especially when drinking beer!

241 JWarrior  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:37:56pm

plains = planes

Damn beer!

242 Honorary Jewish Atomic Redneck  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 2:58:04pm

Is Glazer still posting as gijoe? Glazer's off his meds again!

243 Ali Al-Beheshti  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 3:54:00pm

BS"D

Hulugu # 58

Below is a (longish) post from another thread, which amongst other things, contains a brief description of my ethnic origin, as well as a bit more of my somewhat dry wit (or was that nit wit...hmmm)

Du'a Qunoot is a special supplicatory prayer said by moo slimes when they feel especially oppressed, as well as during certain canonical observations, such as Rommy-dommy-ding-dong. The basic flavour is along the lines of "Gee mr. Allah Subhanna-wa-Ta'ala, we poor exploding violent blood-shedding, islamo-facscist, whinging gits are being made fun of by those evil Zionisti people... please grant us victory, (and an increase in our payments from the dole), allow us the glory of being able to create better bombs, (without prematurely meeting our 72 houriat) so that we may convice the evile, zionist, crusader, sexy, lucky, er, uh, I mean nasty kuffar of your all encompassing mercy. Surely You are the Most Merciful, Beneficent, & Highly Volatile...

Below is from a previous post that details a bit of my backround, in case someone wants to go whinging to the race relations board ..

Perhaps being of mixed parentage (Yemeni Temani Yehudi [maternal}), and 'Arab (minority from Khuzestan) Iranian, I see things a bit less rose-coloured than many Americans . Because of my upbringing, I speak 'Arabic, am Hafez el-Quran(meaning I know the entire book, all 114 surahs, from fatiha to nahs), and am intimately familiar with all of the major school of Hadith (traditionally accepted "sound-chain" transmitters of the life & habits of mo ham head), those of the sunni, the shia, the isma'ili, as well as the more obscure ja'afari.

Please understand, if ever a group of moo slimes gain access to any manner of WMD, it will be used without hesitation, and with absolutely no regard to population demographic. Quite the contrary, many fully sanctioned 'Ulema in highly respected (by the willing idiots of the West [france, belgium, to a lesser degree, UK, and of course home-grown treason -on-the-hoof, hyper-democats]) madraassahs teach and openly contend that violence accompanied by horrifying casualties, if intended to cause more rapid subjugation and collapse of the "kuffar" "mushriq" (idol-worshiper is the basic flavour) population, it is not only sanctioned, but incumbent upon those "mo'minin al-jihad" (sactified believers on the path of holy struggle), in that it can be construed as saving moo slime lives.

Some sad defect in modern moo slime states & identity has caused a violent cowardice to come to the fore in many of the populations from which groups such as el-qa'ida (rest haven, in some vernacular, rest area [think toidy]) draw their recruits. This particularly invidious form of cowardice is much like the behaviour of hyenas...brave in overwhelming numbers, but false and fawning when the odds are anything close to even. This cultural illness gives rise to fanatically cherished fantasies of vengance against a West perceived as the destroyer of some mythic "golden era caliphate of the ummah".

Being able to "pass" amongst the moo slimes of my home, I can tell you that the occasional (to western ears) wildly histrionic pronouncements of hatred and promised death are nothing, repeat nothing compared to what is openly advocated, taught, and prayed for in masjids, madraasahs, and souks the moo slime world over.

Undoubtedly I will be painted with the "racist" tarbrush for my words, I could care less, as an Orthodox Jew, it is my obligation to do everything I can to preserve the life of the innocent from a "pursuer" (one who in murder-rage chases another with the clear intent to kill) Halacha (Jewish Canon Law) leaves no wiggle room on this issue. Having lived among moo slimes for many, many years, I can honestly assert that the West has never faced a more implacable enemy. Death, Dhimmi-tude, or conversion are the only alternatives to complete victory over the madly fanatic.

244 zulubaby  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:11:31pm

JWarrior (#239)

To be honest I didn't even know half the stuff you mentioned goes on ...

Me neither. Do you think we're missing out!?

245 Leah  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 4:30:47pm

Ali: TELL MORE..Be specific. Tell what you have seen and heard. Its invaluable information. I want these people to hear it.

246 andthenblammo!  Thu, Nov 20, 2003 7:00:43pm

Now "Bob's Big Boy" goes Baathist! Try our five-sided baklava!

247 inkgrrl  Fri, Nov 28, 2003 9:26:50am

Holy f***ing shit. Glass 'em.


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