Charles, when you post a story like this, you really need to counterbalance it with stories about American Christians burning mosques when Muslims disrespect our religion.

Oh, wait, American Christians don't do that. Never mind.

The dispute began when a Christian student was accused of insulting the Prophet Mohammad and a group of Muslims were not satisfied with the response of school authorities.

But you don't understand. They were humiliated, they had to burn those churches down.

[/sarcasm]

Thank God at least there were no deaths...every day Islam shows its true roots...and with all the negative publicity that Islam gets, the followers of this cult are having there very foundations shaken...

Islam has had a free ride for 1400 years...now with the advent of an alternative to the liberal media and academia, we are seeing Muslims leave Islam like never before...

Especially African Muslims who are leaving this cult in droves along with Persians...

Sad events like today can only help show the true nature of Islam!

I cannot imagine what this young man in Nigeria said about Muhammed but it surely is not even close to what many of us say about Muhammed's murderous movement...and rightly so...

Islam is hanging itself...and not a moment too soon!!

Devonator

The dispute began when a Christian student was accused of insulting the Prophet Mohammad and a group of Muslims were not satisfied with the response of school authorities.

Since these animals are already throwing this kind of chaff here, how long until they decide it's time to start emulating their monkey-brothers overseas?

A Jew (or a Christian, for that matter) without a gun is fooling himself.

I just saw a "Breaking News" special report about this on ABC.

Oh wait, no I didn't.

At some point in time the most committed bedwetting liberals are going to get the idea that Islam is out to kill them or convert them. Then maybe there can be some action against the ROP.
At this time it might be educational to open a Burka store so that all the good feminists in the West can either get theirs or start protesting against the treatment of Women under Islam.

If blasphemy by a non-[bigoted word] leads to burning 13 churches to show the idiocy of the Cult's belief system, I can only imagine the handiwork that would transpire if these whackos ever got hold of the posters on this site!

As the late Dorothy Parker said: F*ck 'em if they can't take a joke!" And these [bigoted word]s definitely CANNOT take a joke.

All in the name of their Prophet or shall I say phedophile Mohammed!!

What is it about these muslims that they will protect a dead pedophile's reputation?? The truth hurts so much that they take revenge on innocent people and their property.

You don't see people burning mosques in the western world when Muslims blaspheme against Christianity or Judaism. If that were the case then there wouldn't be any mosques left.

We must do something about this awful VIRUS called Islam!

Here in the States, even if I tell a hard-core Southern Baptist that I don't believe in God, the worst he'll do is damn me to Hell. Compare this to a hard-core jihadi, who'll likely execute me for heresy. Or for being an infidel, but the jury's still out on that.

If this had happened in schools in our country, we'd...we'd...

...well, we'd probably apologize to the rioters and send the victims to sensitivity training.

I think I saw this here once before:

1500-

Islam: Convert or die, infidel!
Christianity: Convert or die, infidel!

2000-

Islam: Convert or die, infidel!
Christianity: Would you mind taking a glance at this lovely pamphlet?

Now the ROPMA is going after Dr. Laura

The comments, on Monday's program, came in response to a mother who asked whether her 16-year-old daughter should take part in a Catholic high school class's field trip to a local mosque. The visit was part of a "moral themes" class that aimed to help students learn how "Muslims are treated" in the United States.

Schlessinger replied to the mother:

"This is a class on morals. What is the point of going to a mosque? ... You're joking of course. How many Americans have tortured and murdered Muslims. I think you ought to stand up against this class and this teacher. This is despicable. You tell him you are willing to go to the mosque only if it is one that has done its best to rout out terrorists in its midst. Instead of complaining.

"I am horrified that you would let her go. I am so sick and tired of all the Arab-American groups whining and complaining about some kind of treatment. What culture and what religion were all the murderers of 9-11? They murdered us. That's the culture you want your daughter to learn about?"

Not in my part of the country it wouldn't. I live in the buckle of the Bible Belt and trust me - no one would be appolgizing to church burners, even if it were a Morman church!

Gee whiz, what did he say? What did he say? Do they not know (other than it "insulted" Mo) or are they just not saying because, no matter what it is, reporting the actual "insult" would highlight to reasonable readers what a barbaric over-reaction this is?

Why is murder, rape, and carnage not an affront to Islam?

Actually, this is all just a misunderstanding. You see, the local Nigerian team won the championship and they were just celebrating.

We will now return to your local programming.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves. This is no different than what happened to Muslims in America after 9-11

3000 Americans were murdered, and some Muslim people received some really nasty looks from some people, and I think there was even a Sikh guy killed because he was mistaken for a Muslim.

In Nigeria some intolerant woman makes a joke suggesting that the Final Prophet (PBUH) of Allah (SWT ) had an overactive sex drive, and a a few dozen Christians get killed. This was even milder, some Christian blasphemed the Prophet (PBUH), and nobody even died.

Can't you see that Christianity is the same way as Islam? Imagine how all those poor Muslims felt, what with the dirty looks and all, after 9-11!

#12 VK:

Wow! This gives me a whole new perspective on Dr. L. I may resume my suspended admiration of her.

#5 Indeed!! Why is it that these news 'items' are igored by mainstream media?

#12 Viking the Kitten 11/20/2003 07:38AM PST

ive never liked dr laura but little tidbits like this might change me

Rabidfox, not to be nitpicky but, it is Mormon, or more precisely Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. For more information you can refer to the LDS homepage.

If civilian leadership refuses to fight, there is the option of military leadership.

A little good news on an otherwise depressing day:

US Troops in Iraq Kill 10 Jihadis who ambushed convoy.

720 more virgins and 270 more smooth, hairless boys gonna be busy tonight servicing the martyrs.

In the old days in America , the Catholics posted big Irish motherf*ckers with long guns at the doors to disuade the bastards from burning down their churches. (after editorials in the New York Times practically called for it) It worked.

As a peace officer, I know the only reason scumbags don't burn, pillage and rape everything in sight in my jurisdiction is because I will unload 52 bullets from my Glock into them, as will fifty or more of my co-workers.

Maybe people with a vague understanding of Christianity will think it's wrong to post armed-to-the-f*cking teeth guards at these churches, but it's either that or the Christians can burn the churches down themselves and convert to Islam.

By the way, stop f*cking spamming me with your con games, you Nigerian morons. What a great country you have, where your largest exports are fraud, ID theft and murder. I look forward to putting several more of your esteemed countrymen in jail (where they belong) in the very near future, so stay the f*ck out of my way.

"Things" certainly f*cking do "fall apart," to quote your most (only) famous writer. Got a democracy on ya, losers?

Religion of Peace...and Arson!

...hundreds have died in religious clashes in the last three years.

Right, hundreds of Christians and maybe a dozen Muslims, killed by Christians defending themselves.

If they want to hear insults of their repulsive, pedophilic, moon-god-worshipping moo-ham-mud, then they can come visit the U.S.A.

#5 Geepers

My sentiments exactly. Why isn't THIS getting the press coverage over here like it deserves?

Duh-oh. Must keep repeating the mantra:

Islam is peace

Islam is peace

Islam is peace

(puke)

hoodlums then mobilised and went into town where they started looting and burning

More than 5,000 people have been killed in religious violence in northern Nigeria in the past four years since the introduction of Islamic sharia law in 12 states.

CAIR letter-writing campaign and embargo of Al-Reuters to follow.

Slightly OT --

News item: "Michael Jackson accused of child molestation."

I wasn't aware he had become a Mooslum...

(/returning you to your regular programming...)

Irate youths torched churches, houses and shops late on Tuesday in Kazaure, some 80 km (50 miles) north of Kano, a northern provincial capital where hundreds have died in religious clashes in the past three years.

I remember being a little irate as a teenager but I managed to control myself somehow. Fucking animals. I'm so sick of this Religion of Peace.

#17

You should all be ashamed of yourselves. This is no different than what happened to Muslims in America after 9-11

Please tell me this is you being sarcastic! This is COMPLETELY different! Americans didn't go around burning mosques after we were attacked!

And you know most of the liberal media will chalk this up to "Christian-Muslim riots" as they did during the beauty pageant mess.

Is this Nigeria's experiment with democracy? Sharia in 12 states does not constitute democracy. Christians are trying to defend themselves as they are attacked time after time, and the best the Beeb and Co. can muster is "Christian-Muslim tensions."

Utterly pathetic.

#32

What do you think?

Religion of Peace my Ass.

Anybody protesting this in London today? Was there an international outcry that I missed? CAIR issue a statement? Does anyone actually care about what happens to these people!? The whole world is so busy obsessing about Israel and the Jews that this won't even register.

More than 5,000 people have been killed in religious violence in northern Nigeria in the past four years since the introduction of Islamic sharia law in 12 states

What a coincidence!

No, Zulubaby, you're missing the point of these demonstrations. THey couldn't care less about the plight of the Palis, or muslims, or any other 'downtrodden' group. What they want is the destruction of western civilization. The primary organizers are all part of the "Ho, ho, ho, Western Civilization has got to go" crowd. So naturally they're not interested in anything like justice.

OT For those of you who nitpick spelling - tough. 1) Between my four eye corrections I have trouble seeing the computer screen, 2) I read words not letters, and 3) I was never a typist. Please read the content.

Reuters tells us that these are "militants" again. By the end of the article their status was reduced to "rioters".

Is there an Islamic terrorist that Reuters does not admire?

#20 jimmytheclaw 11/20/2003 08:21AM PST
ive never liked dr laura but little tidbits like this might change me

Save it for someone more worthy. Anyone who moralizes about 'family values', but whose own mother's dead body isn't found until it's rotten stink betrays it, or whose nude photos (taken while engaged in an adulterous affair) grace the internet, isn't worth it.

#23 Ed Moran: Abu Voice of Iceland's Love Child 11/20/2003 08:33AM PST
A little good news on an otherwise depressing day:
US Troops in Iraq Kill 10 Jihadis who ambushed convoy.

Yes yes, but how many "US servicemen killed since President Bush declared an end to combat"
/LLL-CNN-MSNBC-ABC-CBS-AP-Reuters-DemocraticParty

Larry Elder in Townhall on line has a good blurb on the scum-bag nature of the Koran.

Rabidfox sorry if I offended I just did not want the Mormons to get humiliated and go on the rampage.

#24 TM Hillibilly,

Well said. For Muslims to establish Sharia in America they will, in accordance with the precepts of their religion, ultimately resort to violence. They would need to act as they have been in Nigeria and elsewhere, by killing and burning homes and churches and using the threat of it. In America, they will have to do that street by street and house by house.

If they get around to trying that here, they will lose. Apart from the likes of our own well-trained and professional police forces (who can't be everywhere all the time), we have the 2nd Amendment. That important right uniquely gives individual Americans the ability to lawfully acquire and possess the means to defend themselves against such depredations and attacks. I suspect that the Muslims have success in these rampages against infidels, their homes and churches because most infidels outside of the USA do not have or are denied that capability.

I encourage all Americans to knowledgeably, safely and responsibly exercise their 2nd Amendment rights.

#42 - Stop Hillary

I couldn't agree with you more

#42 Stop Hillary -

CAIR is sponsoring a fundraising dinner on 29 Nov, featuring Dennis Kucinich and Nick J. Rahall II (D-WV). Hooper, in the past, has said in no uncertain terms in the past that their objective is Sharia law in the U.S.
Apparently, they are counting on these two as their stepping stones.

Dr. Laura: "Kol HaKovod!!!" ("To You Goes the Glory/Honor!!!" or "You Go, Girl!!!")

#4 Gryphon (Just Another Jew With A Gun)

JFPO

w00t!

In 1830, in the north-eastern Persian city of Meshad, a local muslim claimed to have heard a Jew refer to a dog as "mohammed."

After a hundred Jews were slaughtered by the forces of the rop&t(TM) during a day of peaceful demonstrateions, the local Jewish community was "persuaded" to "embrace" islam.

Secretly, they did not. Over the next 20 years, they slowly, slowly moved away, many eventually settling in Jerusalem, where their descendents remain to this day.

It should be noted that the greatest rabbi of all time, Maimodidese himself, endured a similar humiliation, and fled his native Spain. He did not refer to islam as the rop&t

[/historical lecture off]
[/intentional lower case off]

This sounds like a light hearted suggestion but it might work, why not link every Christian church in vulnerable areas to a sister church in the US. And to be simple let it be across denominational lines. Then have the African churchs change their names to such and such with the words African American in their title. Folks notice when African American churchs get burned. I wouldn't want this to be a sponsorship arrangment or adopt a church but rather a partnership.

#23 Ed Moran: Abu Voice of Iceland's Love Child 11/20/2003 08:33AM PST --

It's really 720 virgins and * 280 *
smooth and hairless boys for the ten
martyrs. A shaheed gets 28, not 27,
of the latter, each.

Yumm.

Millions of muslims -- and dhimmis and khfrs who were in the way -- have died over similar, really important, misunderstandings.

Rayra:

Do you have any more than the link you provided to bash Dr. Laura? I question you not to immediately take disagreement with you, but because nothing in that link DIRECTLY makes the case that Dr. Laura was lacking in grounds for being estranged from her Mother. One of the CORE beliefs that Dr. Laura has espoused over the years is the PARENTS (not grandparents, not school system, not church, etc) exclusive and total control over how to raise kids as well as the belief that a spouses primary devotion is to the other spouse and kids (not to parents and extended family). In other words, I have heard her go off 100 times about the duty of a husband to wife and wife to husband and both to the children and this duty trumps any and all claims made by more "extended" members of the family.

If the estrangement was due to her Mother not abiding by a decision made jointly by Dr. and Hubby, then I wouldn't necessarily find fault with that decision.

Also, do you happen to have any support for the "adulterous" part of your statement with regard to the photos? I had heard about the nude pics, but not the "adulterous" part of the scandel.

Thanks in advance if you have the time to address this!

Just saw this at Strategypage.com:
November 20, 2003: The health crises continues in northern Nigeria, where Moslem leaders have been urging their followers not to let their children take polio vaccine. Years of anti-Christian, and especially anti-American Moslem propaganda has resulted in a widely believed fear that the vaccine actually makes the female children sterile and is part of a plot to kill off all Africans. Some of the Moslem religious leaders have admitted that this is absurd, but it is what many northern Nigerians believe and few leaders are willing to preach against it. Islamic religious leaders also have problems (as do their Christian compatriots) with the persistence of belief in magic. This is common throughout Africa, and is often used by local leaders to control populations. For example, an accusation of witchcraft can get you killed (often in a gruesome fashion) or driven from your village. This belief in magic plays an important role in African warfare and military affairs, usually to the detriment of the practitioners (as there have been no verified instances of magic making anyone bulletproof, while Western protective vests will.)

Since a lot of the hostility is directed against the US (which supplies most of the vaccine, and many of the field workers who help to deliver it), it has been suggested that if Americans were withdrawn from the program, it might be possible to convince Moslem parents to allow their children to be vaccinated. Polio outbreaks still occur in northern Nigeria, killing and crippling thousands of children each year. While this is tragic enough, the resistance to vaccination in northern Nigeria is preventing an attempt by the World Health

#46 Josh 11/20/2003 11:57AM PST

#4 Gryphon (Just Another Jew With A Gun)

JFPO

w00t!

a friend of mine used to donate to that org

#51 Mr Kufr 11/20/2003 01:51PM PST

well then all i gotta say is screw you i'm taking my medicine and going home

/cartman

2 Devon hill

As you, I'm beginning to see the cracks in the Islamic edifice, despite the mayhem going on at the moment. In the dark days of 1942, as people surveyed the world, they could see only German and Japanese victories, the withdrawal of American forces from Philipines, the rolling back of the British in SE Asia, the ME and elsewhere. Yet despite all this, Churchill and Rooseveldt knew that they had won. It was just a matter of time.

The depravity of Islam seems to know no bounds. Atleast the Germans did not deliberately target children and again German attacks had some strategic purpose. With Islam there is no such, except to intimidate the non-muslim world to convert to Islam. Their increasingly violent attacks seem to indicate a desperation that the end may be near for Islam.
I've heard from Zorastrians that Iranian muslims are leaving Islam and trying to convert to Z. But apparantly Z is a finiticky religion, somewhat like Judaism, very exclusive and not keen to except converts. It is disheartening that some of the above dont see the big picture. If large numbers of muslims leave Islam, this edifice of islam will coillapse like a house of cards. The only reason that many are in it is that they are deadly afraid to leave.

Asa point of interest, there seems to be no support mechanism in the West for ex-muslims. But there should be, just as there are for battered women etc. Ex-muslims are in far greatewrv fear of their lives then estranged women. But we are unable to provide such shelters, as we have designated islam as the RoP. And so it is, that what seemed to be a harmless political expedient actually affects policy and the safety of possibly thousands of muslims in the West, who would like nothing better then to get the hell out.

48 JonathanD
Sounds a great idea. I dont though that pastors would mind if the church was in a safe and peaceful Christian country but I have a feeling that they would run a mile to avoid your idea.

#44 Steve H. -- "Apparently, they are counting on these two as their stepping stones. "

I am sure they do. I am sure these are not the only politicians, academicians and media gatekeepers in their hip-pocket. At times, our own State Department is more aligned with the interests of Islam than can possibly be consistent with the interests of this nation.

The Arabs and other adherents to Islam can, and do, buy a lot of loyalty and will most certainly make inroads. At the end of the day though, Islam has revealed itself to be so thoroughly opposed to our rights (even though often we slumber on them), culture, beliefs, understanding of what is just, way of living and practical common sense that even the corruption of our government will not bring to them the rule of Islamic Law in the USA. Eventually the mainstream media will no longer be able to conceal this simple truth.

Once that happens, no amount of CAIR dollars, Terry McCauliffe talking points, Michael Moore rants or Zogby influence will cover it up again.

C'mon guys, try to be reasonable here! Don't you realize that Nigeria is the third-holiest African nation in the Koran? Should such a treasure be defiled by tolerance? How much humiliation must you jooos and infidels inflict on the poor, defenseless moosleems?

when muslims attack

#51 Mr. Kufr

I dunno, that sounds like a pretty good rumor to propagate.

Wow. Moral dilemma. I find myself applauding animal rights activists.

We gave pig meat to halal sheep, say activists

#59

Isn't that kinda like that old joke about the "mixed emotions" of watching your brand new sports car driven over a cliff by your mother-in-law???

Christians and atheists are EAGER for new converts...

= = =

One idea that I've mulled around in my head: we need to tour the country with every news story we have on Islam - LIVE. Also, we should find women and kids who have "words" regarding Islam--again, live.

THe other major creeds, faiths, or lack thereof that see the evil of Islam must put aside their differences and fight this common foe together. Think faith-freedom with more "never was a muslims". :)

The group tours colleges, holds forums in auditoriums. Just ordinary citizens and people airing their observations about the Religion of PEACE...

#42 - Stop Hilary:

Damn right we can't be everywhere - as soon as someone's car is stolen or shop has been broken into it's "where were the police!?"

If you're not a felon or an enemy of the state, get a defensive weapon and get TRAINING, so you don't shoot your kid while cleaning it, or the worst sin of all - miss your target (when that target is a sociopath murder junkie). Then get a gun safe, so criminals don't run off with your S&W and give Clinton and co. another reason for guns to only be in the hands of federal agents guarding them.

The right to bear arms is what seperates us from the lemmings in "countries" like Nigeria.

...of course every other person in Iraq seemed to own a machine gun, at least the way the media shows it...

Anyway, reduce your chances of being a victim, and help keep America free and civilized. Buy More Guns!

So I would be in trouble if I named one sow, koran, and the boar, mohammed?

YO! LOOKEE HERE, everyone!

"The dispute [sic] began when a Christian student was accused of insulting the Prophet Mo_"

Oh-ho. See the truth - the student was *accused* - not convicted.

Do we *seriously* think that a group of children would just happen to have the organization, the flammables, the combustion/delivery tools (and likely the transportation), and the *staying power* to torch
T-H-I-R-T-E-E-N
LARGE
(probably separated by neighborhoods)
buildings, as well as "several" homes (parsonages?)?

That is a minimum of 15 structures - probably closer to 20!

HELLO!

This was *obviously* just a juvenile prank, right? Just a bunch of boys gone wild?

Just like Krystalnacht.

The *real* Enemy repeats the same old stuff.

(BTW, guns are fun, but prayer is still the highest form of warfare!)

#62 T M Hillbilly -- "The right to bear arms is what seperates us from the lemmings in "countries" like Nigeria.

...of course every other person in Iraq seemed to own a machine gun, at least the way the media shows it...

Anyway, reduce your chances of being a victim, and help keep America free and civilized. Buy More Guns!"

Couldn't be more correct. But right now Sen. Lautenberg (D-NJ) and others are proposing legislation that would, if adopted, prevent right now anyone from purchasing a firearm. The reason? Of course, to control the "terrorist threat". It's a gun grab scheme playing off the fears that people have of terrorism. Ones ability to defend oneself is what saves civilization, not endangers it. Any government that tells you otherwise, quite frankly, wants you defenseless because you can be controlled if you are defenseless. Few realize the slender thread upon which civilized behavior often rests. In any circumstance where there is a breakdown in civil authority for an extended period of time, criminals will take advantage. Police and even the National Guard can't protect everyone. Don't you owe it to yourself and your family to be prepared for self-defense. It's not threatening, it's not dangerous, it's your God given right and it's perfectly natural -- no matter what the Dems and their lobbyists want to tell you.

The media is so dishonest about Iraq that it isn't funny. I suspect that the general availabilty of small arms is what contributed to the ultimate end of looting more so than any policing our troops did or could ever do on a routine basis. Meanwhile, here the politicians lie about what constitutes an "assault weapon" while over there, true assault weapons (automatic weapons) abound.

I don't believe that owning a firearm is any guarantee of safety or survival. But, in the right circumstances it can give you a fighting chance.

Mr. Hillbilly's advice is on the money. Training and a gunsafe for proper storage are key. Let me add that practice is important to. Everyone in the family should know how to safely handle the firearm and use it. Ignorance and fear of firearms and their use make you and your family less safe. If they are in the house, everyone should know how to use them and respect them.

Target shooting is a lot of fun too. Especially for the wife and daughters because for some reason they prove to be the best shots. At least that's been my experience.

Sermon over.

#34
I think you are one really sick puppy if you aren't being sarcastic. You can't tell me you honestly believe that.

66 misty 11/20/2003 10:40PM PST

#34
I think you are one really sick puppy if you aren't being sarcastic. You can't tell me you honestly believe that. "

You might read around - our friend has quite a dry sense of humor.

(Hint: Wanna borrow my sarcasm shovel?)

(Abu VoILC, did I spoil your fun?)

#67

Thanks, I am new. stumled on to this from hubby. He loves this place

The best shot in my department is a 50 year old black woman.

That's all I have to add.