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Converting to Islam is ridiculously easy. Just say (in Arabic, of course) “Allah is the one true god” three times, and you are officially a Muslim.

But leaving the Religion of Peace and Tolerance is not so simple, as four Malaysians who renounced Islam 5 years ago have discovered.

Because a Malaysian law allows would-be apostates to be imprisoned for up to 36 months for “religious instruction and repentance.” (Hat tip: Nancy.)

(Section 102(1) of the Enactment provides in essence that a Muslim may not declare that he is not a Muslim save where he has been certified as such by a Syariah court.

Section 102(3) allows a Muslim to be detained at an Islamic Guidance Centre for up to 36 months for religious instruction and repentance if he attempted to renounce his faith.) Kelantan legal adviser Che Mohd Ruzima Ghazali, for the Kelantan Government and MAIK, adopted Gani's submission.

In reply, Malik Imtiaz Sarwar, for the appellants, said no one could judge a person's desire to renounce Islam.

He said if a person renounced Islam to escape an obligation such as prosecution, action such as charges of obstruction of justice could be framed against them.

Malik said the appellants' renunciation was consistent with their conduct.

"They had already been convicted of so-called deviant teaching.

"What more proof do you need when they have already been convicted of practising something which is inconsistent with Islam?" he said.

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1 Orbit Rain  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 3:39:22pm

This goes in the HOLY SHIT! pile

2 therien  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 3:41:25pm

"But I changed my mind!"

"Ouch! Sorry!"

3 Evariste's Zaide  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 3:42:10pm

"I'm not a Muslim."
"Yes, You are."
No, I'm not!"
"Damn sure are!"
Don't wanna be!"
"Tough cookies!"
"Fuck you!"
Snik...Bang! "No, Kaffir! Fuck YOU!"

4 Stupid Handle  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 3:43:19pm

Look, they could have thrown off the sent by either slicing off their daughter's clit or beating up a Jew. You know, go with the flow... its only a few years of stark FEAR to deal with.

*seethe*

Paul

5 Devon Hill  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 3:43:26pm

It's actually far worse then that in proper Islamic teaching...Muhammed taught in the Sahih Hadiths that anyone that leaves Islam is to be executed...unless they repented and returned to Islam of course...

That is pure Islam folks...and that is a telltale sign of a cult...which Islam is of course...


Islam is like the old Eagles Classic, 'Hotel California'... You can check in, but you can never leave...

Devonator

6 Craig  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 3:43:57pm

A lot of people wonder what is the official way to quit Islam.

It's easy. You just blow yourself up on a crowded bus.

7 Frank IBC, Abu Serious  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 3:48:38pm

You mean, all one has to do is to say "Ashwadu la illah al-Lat...ashwadu la illah al-Lat...ashwadu la illah al-Lat"?

Oooops!!!

Thanks a lot, Charles.

What do I do now?

{looking again, double-checking entry}

Oooh, what a relief - I'm a "Satanic Verses" Muslim. Maybe that's not so bad.

8 Frank IBC, Abu Serious  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 3:52:29pm

This reminds me of an incident in Egypt (IIRC) several years ago. A husband and wife were acting in a movie together, playing the role of a husband and wife. The husband, in the acting role, said to the wife, "I divorce thee, I divorce thee, I divorce thee", the Muslim divorce declaration.

Just one problem. The local religious authorities ruled that by uttering those words, the husband had divorced his wife in real life.

And he couldn't re-marry her until he married another woman, stayed married for a while, and then divorced that second wife.

9 Evariste's Zaide  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 3:55:22pm

When I was a kid in parochial school, the official RCC position was that, no matter what, once Catholic/always Catholic. Similarly, once ordained a priest, there was no way out, even after being defrocked. It was like you were soul-branded.
HOWEVER, I don't recall anybody I know ever being punished or brought up on charges like these vile death-cultists seem to find normal. The judgement & punishment were left to the Occupant of the Great White Throne.
Arabia isn't a location; it's a temporal anomaly.

10 Stupid Handle  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 3:58:57pm

7

And the difference is... ?

Anyhow, if there is not a local bus stop, if you wanted to quit I am sure you could, but if you want to live your options are limited.

You would need to move to Israel or the US, or another tolerant nation. Of course, you'll get you ass doubly killed when they kill our infidel asses and find that the defector infidel has a job, a house, indoor plumbing, kids, health care...

So the question is, at that point, do they kill our hypothetical quitter out of dogma, or jealousy?

Paul

11 NTropy  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 3:59:19pm

Beetlejuice

Beetlejuice

Beetlejuice

Am I in?

12 Laurence of the Rats  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 3:59:32pm

How do you say "Allah is the one true moon" in arabic?

13 K. moderate muslim  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 4:01:56pm

Allah is the one true God.

Allah is the one true God.

Allah is the one true God.

Now, as a Muslim, I condemn all Islamic terrorism. NOT IN MY NAME!!!

Oh, and by the way, the wall, like, totally sucks, dude.

14 evariste  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 4:03:36pm

NTropy-LOL!

15 Frank IBC, Abu Serious  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 4:07:00pm

K. -

Yes, I preferred Dark Side of the Moon myself.

Lawrence -

See my #7.

16 Frank IBC, Abu Serious  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 4:08:23pm

IIRC, the Black Stone in the Ka'bah in Makkah is held in a frame that resembles a vagina.

To this, they pray 5 times a day.

Joke's on them.

17 Paul  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 4:09:23pm

Islam is a lot like communism; any deviance from the official line, any "thought crime" can land you in a world of trouble---"re-education camp", prison, or death. No dissent, and no questions are permitted. A pathetic, constricted, religion of nihilism.

Not OT: Per CNN, a high school in Vermont is considering changing its team name from the "Crusaders" because it might give offense.

18 Engineer  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 4:14:46pm

#9 Evariste's Zaide

Arabia isn't a location; it's a temporal anomaly.

And nothing ever changes there.

19 PDM  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 4:19:12pm
Just say (in Arabic, of course) “Allah is the one true god” three times, and you are officially a Muslim.

What about clicking your heels together three times? You left out that part.

20 Les  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 4:22:11pm
IIRC, the Black Stone in the Ka'bah in Makkah is held in a frame that resembles a vagina.

Uh, Frank?

I got a post deleted for suggesting that the black stone used to be a lingam -- a penis symbol -- under the kabaa's previous management.

21 Rayra[deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 4:25:20pm
22 Clutch  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 4:36:14pm

Allah is the one troo god...NOT!
Allah is the one troo god...NOT!
Allah is the one troo god...NOT!

Allah is the one troo odd!
Allah is the one troo odd!
Allah is the one troo odd!

Allah is the one bloo todd!
Allah is the one bloo todd!
Allah is the one bloo todd!
(Cue "We Gotta Get You A Woman"...)

"I don't wanna work,
I just want to kill all the Jooos all day!
I don't wanna pray
I just wanna blow up the Jooos all day!"

(Ot just cross your fingers behind your back when saying it...)

23 Ali Al-Beheshti  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 4:45:08pm

BS"D

Frank IBC #8

The case you refer to was in Pakistan; however here is yet another, equally silly case, from Egypt. Herewith the article: Globe & Mail, June 15, 1995 Egyptian Court tells couple to divorce.
In a case brought forward by some Muslims, an Egyptian court ruled that a couple must divorce against their will because the husband's writings show he is not a Muslim. The couple are shocked & angry as they are happily married. The order is that the couple, married for over 20 years must now live apart. The case has become a cause celebre as those who took the case to court had nothing to do with the couple. The husband, a professor who is knowledgeable about Islamic theology has argued that lman al Shafie imposed a narrow interpretation of Islam. This has angered the more conservative people. Quite the farce.

People who do not have a clear understanding of eslam are surprised by such escapades. As a person who lived in a moo slime society for many years, I can bear witness that "you ain't seen nothin' yet". What occurs on a daily basis in the moo slime world would literally chill the blood of any civilised person. Unfortunately the willing idiots, and cultural traitours who make up the phony oganisations such as "race relations" boards, and editorial and redactive comittees, seem determinedly blind to the most basic truths. I only hope that the West will awaken before it is to late. Otherwise your grandchildren will either be serfs, moo slimes, or dead.

24 Ali Al-Beheshti  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 4:54:13pm

BS"D

By the way, to officially convert (in all schools of eslam except isma'ili) to eslam a person must recite the shahada (declaration of faith) in 'Arabic, in front of witnesses, "Ash-hadu an la illaha illa Allah, Ash-hadu ana mohammedan rasulallah" trans." I bear witness that their is no deity other than Allah (what about Al-lat and Al-uzza??) I bear witness that mo ham head is the prophet (l'havdil Gadol) of G-d" It need only be said once, and there must be three adult (over 14 years of age) moo slime males present as witnesses, then the convert is supposed to bathe.

If you meet these conditions, you are forever regarded as a moo slime in any jurisdiction subject to Shari'a (eslamic law). So be careful what you say, it could really f*ck up your day!! :-)

25 Geepers  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 4:55:43pm

And once you're in:

SLAM!

"Is it just me, or does it stink in here."

Well you'd think a question like that would be met with "Ya know, you're right. Let's do something about it." But no, they kill you for pointing out the obvious and wallow in their own shit and will only be happy if everyone else is forced to live in shit right along with them.

A strange "religion" indeed.

26 rimshot ralph  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 4:56:23pm

Just say...? Mohammod sucks donkey dicks three times? Well, yeah I believe that>

27 Laurence of the Rats  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 5:02:56pm

#15 Frank IBC, Abu Serious

Oh, that's what that meant! Thanks! *g*

28 Frank IBC, Abu Serious  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 5:18:22pm

Lawrence -

Al-Lat is one of the three ancient Arabic goddesses mentioned in the "Satanic Verses"; the others being Manat and Al-Ulah. I don't recall exactly, but I think Al-Lat is a moon goddess, or at least strongly associated with the moon. Al-Lat is said to correspond to Leto/Latona, the mother of Apollo and Artemis/Diana.

The funny thing is that in Arabic, there is a letter that is written like "h" but pronounced like "t" when at the end of a word, it typically indicates feminine gender. It is written in the same form as the Arabic "h", but with two dots above it (sort of like an umlaut). "Allah" plus the "umlaut" would come out as "Al-Lat" (though one other letter is slighty different). So all you have to do is get a can of spray paint, and go indiscriminately wild painting umlauts any time you see that word.

Al-Latu Akbar... Al-Latu Akbar... Al-Latu Akbar... Al-Latu Akbar

Ashwadu La Illah Al-Lat... Ashwadu La Illah Al-Lat Ashwadu La Illah Al-Lat... Ashwadu La Illah Al-Lat

Aswadu Muhammadu Rasulu-'l-Lat... Aswadu Muhammadu Rasulu-'l-Lat... Aswadu Muhammadu Rasulu-'l-Lat... Aswadu Muhammadu Rasulu-'l-Lat

29 Frank IBC, Abu Serious  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 5:19:26pm

Or...

Ashwadu La Allah... Ashwadu La Allah... Ashwadu La Allah... Ashwadu La Alla

30 veng  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 5:21:57pm

#28 Frank IBC, Abu Serious

Ya gotta post a little picture of that so we'll get it right.

Seriously - great idea. But don't get caught, talk about seethe and whine!

31 Frank IBC, Abu Serious  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 5:22:08pm

then the convert is supposed to bathe

That one should be good for at least a dozen smart-ass remarks. :)

32 therien  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 5:24:56pm

# 20 Les

Where the heck did you have a post deleted for that?

33 Allah  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 5:26:26pm
Allah is the one true God.

Allah is the one true God.

Allah is the one true God.

Welcome to the team, Jew! Your first mission: Terminate the Satan and the oppressor known as "PDM" with extreme prejudice. Guns are good, bombs are better. Allahu Akbar!

34 Frank IBC, Abu Serious  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 5:33:35pm

Veng:

This is the regular "h"

ﻫ = initial form ﻬ = medial form ﻪ = final form ﻩ = independent form

This is the "h/t" (there is no initial or medial form for this, as it only occurs at ends of words)

ﺔ = final form ﺓ = independent form

Hope you can read it - the font for some reason is microscopic.

35 Ms. Andi  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 5:36:19pm

I am not a muslim
I am not a muslim
I am not a muslim

There, I have immunity just in case someone tricks me.

36 Targetpractice, King of the Britons  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 5:36:44pm

#33 Allah:

And what's the new convert's payment for such a task? And is this payment negotiable?

37 Jersey Girl  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 5:38:21pm

#22

Allah is the one bloo todd!

Yes, but did Todd enjoy it? ;-)

38 Claire  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 5:38:22pm

Why does anybody have to convert to Islam? Aren't we all "born Muslim" as they say?

39 Frank IBC, Abu Serious  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 5:39:15pm

Veng -

Try copying and pasting into Microsoft Word. You might be able to enlarge the font there.

#20 Les -

IIRC, the Black Stone in the Ka'bah in Makkah is held in a frame that resembles a vagina.

I got a post deleted for suggesting that the black stone used to be a lingam -- a penis symbol -- under the kabaa's previous management.

Well, if the shape is not supposed to be a vagina, then maybe it's just a recycled bedpan.

40 Mr. E. Train  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 5:42:03pm

during the middle ages Jews in europe were often declared insane. The reason? They didnt believe in christ. The thinking was that the teachings of Christ was self evident truth. Sort of like the sky is blue, water is wet, the tax man is a jerk and Jesus is the son of god.

So by this reasoning if you didnt believe in Jesus you were insane. And of course insane people can not own property. So often when a local jew had become rich enuf the local puh-ba would have the jew declared insane... and claim his property.

This is of course evil. Its also the reason some give for Jews going into buisnesses that do not rely on land ownership... banking, gem cutting... ect. Dont know the truth of that. But I do know that such practices were against the spirit of jesus's measage.

The west has grown and can now look back on the evil and foolish actions of its past and shake its head that we had ever done such a thing... abused life affirming lessons for personal gain at the expense of innocent people.

Islam however has as part of its core doctrine that it is THEY TRUE faith. It has as part of its core doctrine what dark age christians invented to steal from their neighbor... the belief that those who think and pray different than them are at best low grade morons, at worse scemeing infidels working to undermine gods perfect word. Insane or evil. Theological gridlock is an ugly thing.

41 Ali Al-Beheshti  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 5:42:56pm

BS"D

# 28 Frank IBC

in Arabic, there is a letter that is written like "h" but pronounced like "t" when at the end of a word, it typically indicates feminine gender. It is written in the same form as the Arabic "h", but with two dots above it (sort of like an umlaut)

The letter you are referring to is called "hay", the phonetic equivalent of english "h" when free of the two diacritical points atop, and called "tar-mabuta" with the two diacritical points, which is indeed the feminine ending... pronunced in classical 'Arabic as "atu", or "atun". An example : kalb=dog (male) kalbatun=dog (female) [bitch, non-perjorative].

Ashwadu La Illah Al-Lat..


I am not sure what you mean by the word Ashwadu... I think you mean Ash-Hadu.. which is 'Arabic 1st person singular declarative (g-d, don't you just hate the grammar (l'havdil Gadol) gestapo?) :-) for "I declare (or assert).

Aswadu Muhammadu Rasulu-'l-Lat... Aswadu Muhammadu Rasulu-'l-Lat.


Now here you have made a great joke (intentionaly or not).. Aswad in 'Arabic means black, and colloquially what you have written means "slave (more literally n*gger) Mo ham head is prophet of the (triple) G-ddesses" truly a phrase to guarantee your death by fanatic hordes in the moo slime world...
I have to say, you certainly have a way with a "turn of phrase"...

42 Geepers  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 5:56:12pm

Ali Al-Beheshti (#41),

Now here you have made a great joke (intentionaly or not).. Aswad in 'Arabic means black, and colloquially what you have written means "slave (more literally n*gger) Mo ham head is prophet of the (triple) G-ddesses" truly a phrase to guarantee your death by fanatic hordes in the moo slime world...

That's FAR too complicated.

Can't I just say "mohamed's a fucking asshole" to get a fatwa?

43 Allah  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 5:59:31pm
And what's the new convert's payment for such a task? And is this payment negotiable?

JEW! Your "payment" is the gratitude of the one true god and the spiritual well-being that comes with having killed a few troublemakers!

Why? What are you getting at? Do you want to negotiate about your virgins or something? Talk to Allah, baby. Help Allah help you.

44 PDM  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 6:00:19pm

#33 Allah,

Welcome to the team, Jew! Your first mission: Terminate the Satan and the oppressor known as "PDM" with extreme prejudice. Guns are good, bombs are better. Allahu Akbar!

For all of the time and energy I put into this gig... and this is what I get? ... one stinkin' fatwa?

45 daniel  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 6:02:41pm

Where are the protesters against this type of slavery, and why don't foreign companies already in Malaysia put up some stink about this?

46 therien  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 6:03:53pm

I wanna fatwa!

I have also heard that the Kabaa, possibly of meteoritic origin, might look like a gigantic dried rasin, or maybe sun-baked camel dung.

How do you say "Mohammed had camel-dung in his prepuce" in Arabic?

47 Allah  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 6:07:49pm
For all of the time and energy I put into this gig... and this is what I get? ... one stinkin' fatwa?

Oho! You have lived this long only because Allah thinks there are still a few more Photoshops left in you for his glorious blog. Produce or perish, demon!

48 zulubaby  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 6:11:03pm
Do you want to negotiate about your virgins or something?

What do the girls get?

49 Frank IBC, Abu Serious  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 6:12:06pm

#41 AAB -

I'm certainly no expert in Arabic. I should keep my mouth shut before I get in any more trouble.

But I have no trouble with The Grammar Police.

:)

50 Camel Prophet  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 6:14:55pm

OT:

Paki attack on oppressive islamic laws against women:

www.hipakistan.com/en/detail.php?newsId=en45936&am p;F_catID=16&f_type=source&day=1

51 Targetpractice, King of the Britons  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 6:15:45pm

#43 Allah:

JEW! Your "payment" is the gratitude of the one true god and the spiritual well-being that comes with having killed a few troublemakers!

Sorry, but that don't pay the bills. Unless that gratitude has a money value attached to it, that is.

Why? What are you getting at? Do you want to negotiate about your virgins or something? Talk to Allah, baby. Help Allah help you.

I'm not one of your run of the mill hopelessly horny followers, my main man. After all, if I'm gonna kill infidels while alive, I gotta get something in return. As to the bomb belts, you gotta have money to buy the materials, no? Think you could get me in touch with Chirac?

52 Allah  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 6:24:50pm
What do the girls get?

Allah does not know what the rest of the girls get, zululizardoid infidel, but you get a night with A-double-lizzle OH YES.

I'm not one of your run of the mill hopelessly horny followers, my main man. After all, if I'm gonna kill infidels while alive, I gotta get something in return. As to the bomb belts, you gotta have money to buy the materials, no? Think you could get me in touch with Chirac?

Chirac is busy right now crafting the Franco-German alliance that shall dominate Europe for days to come. As for you, is it not enough that you would be known as the man who bagged the Satan? The glorious Jew-haters at Indymedia would honor you with statues, tributes, and parades featuring giant cardboard puppets. Think it over, kufr.

53 Cybrludite  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 6:26:29pm

#41,

Nifty. I may have to use that as a tagline the next time I annoy random Jihadi groups on Yahoo.

54 Ms. Andi  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 6:41:12pm

#49 Frank IBC

tsk, tsk

55 Forest Fred  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 6:47:03pm

Hmmm lets see here...

Allah is the one true god
Allah is the one true god
Allah is the one true god

I'm not feeling any change yet...not yet...not yet...
...no...n...nn...nd...dd...deat...death...DEATH TO AMERICA, DEATH TO ISRAEL, DEATH TO JEWS, DEATH TO...

Dog eurt eno eth si hallA
Dog eurt eno eth si hallA
Dog eurt eno eth si hallA !!!

56 Big L  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 6:49:58pm

"You can check in anytime you like..say--like a roach motel...they check in--but they can't check out.

57 SoCalJustice  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 6:52:12pm

(#48) zulubaby:

What do the girls get?

Nada. This is Islam.

58 PDM  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 7:00:17pm

#47 Allah,

Produce or perish, demon!

You call that pay? Oy gevalt!
I've got other projects (thank you Ms. Andi) to work on to upset some of your dummies dhimmies.

Besides, we Jews dissed you when Avraham kicked Ishmael's little tuchus out of the tent... and we gave you the finger when we left Egypt.
(Not that you don't currently get enough fingers, hands, feet, and heads from your existing worshipers.)

Hey Allah :)
What do you think of this?
Go to Goggle and search for dhimmies islam.
Google asks:

Did you mean: dummies islam

cute heh?

59 Ms. Andi  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 7:18:58pm

No, Thank you PDM. I'm looking forward to using it.

60 Iron Fist[deleted]  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 7:34:04pm
61 zulubaby  Sat, Nov 22, 2003 8:01:43pm

SoCalJustice (#57)

Nada. This is Islam.

What was I thinking!? Must be the wine ... :-)

62 zaza - incompatible with fatwas  Sun, Nov 23, 2003 12:46:42am

This is ridiculous. Where are the human rights organisations? Oh wait... still protesting Guantanamo... or the okkupation of Iraq...

Bleh.

63 Clutch  Sun, Nov 23, 2003 4:24:39am

#55

Dog eurt eno eht si hallA

Translated:

"Bitchy Eurotrash and Brian Eno on meth say "Yes!" to Hall And Oates!" Who woulda thunk that they dig American blue-eyed soul??? Hey Allah-dude, whatcha got playin' on the stereo right now?

"You're a jihad girl
Go blow up a car
'Cuz you know it don't matter
To the European press any way!
...
You can rely on Arafat's money
Can't rely on Saddam's money
Kill a kufar! Kill a kufar!
It's a jihad girl..."

64 dr_dog  Sun, Nov 23, 2003 8:09:35am

A friend of mine is Malaysian (ethnically Chinese), and the degree of racial/religious separation in the country is astonishing. As I understand it, ethnic Malays must be Muslim, and as we've seen above, converting from Islam is impossible. Malay students are given quotas on post-secondary education, among other things. Additionally, the "melting-pot" has been forcibly removed from the stove, since intermarriage between Malays & other religions requires the other to convert to Islam.

If you ask me, segregating your society is bad news. They've had race (/religious) riots before, and given the state of things lately, I'm sort of worried for his safety. With luck Malaysia will not go the way of Indonesia, and I hope they recognise that peaceful countries are generally not partitioned into enclaves.

Any comments or corrections would be welcome.. This is, after all, second hand information.

65 ushie  Sun, Nov 23, 2003 8:41:12am

"Al-Latu Akbar... Al-Latu Akbar... Al-Latu Akbar... Al-Latu Akbar

Ashwadu La Illah Al-Lat... Ashwadu La Illah Al-Lat Ashwadu La Illah Al-Lat... Ashwadu La Illah Al-Lat

Aswadu Muhammadu Rasulu-'l-Lat... Aswadu Muhammadu Rasulu-'l-Lat... Aswadu Muhammadu Rasulu-'l-Lat... Aswadu Muhammadu Rasulu-'l-Lat "


What about Klaatu Barada Nicto? Have I converted to...what?

66 Mordred  Sun, Nov 23, 2003 3:08:59pm

Doctor Dog, #64

A Singaporean friend told me that more than 100,000 people were killed in "communal violence" when Singapore seceded from Malaysia in 1965, most of them ethnic Chinese.

67 Clutch  Sun, Nov 23, 2003 4:10:11pm

Ahwa Ta-geus Siam!
Ahwa Ta-geus Siam!
Ahwa Ta-geus Siam!

Ahwa Ta-teul Iam!
Ahwa Ta-teul Iam!
Ahwa Ta-teul Iam!

Ahwa Ta-pig Moorebe!
Ahwa Ta-pig Moorebe!
Ahwa Ta-pig Moorebe!

68 dr_dog  Sun, Nov 23, 2003 8:36:45pm

#66 Mordred

Wow, worse than I thought, then. The fruitcakes in the Malaysian Islamic Party (or whatever; the the exact name escapes me) are making me nervous, though Malaysia still seems light years ahead of plenty of Middle Eastern countries.
It's somewhat discouraging that maybe this is really the best we can hope for.. but, baby steps, I guess.

It's interesting that after seceding, Singapore has become hugely successful. Right now it has half of Malaysia's fertility rate, and almost 3 times its GDP per capita..
Sorta makes you wonder.

69 Funky Cold Medina (formerly ramadanadingdong)  Mon, Nov 24, 2003 10:10:28am

#65 ushie

What about Klaatu Barada Nicto? Have I converted to...what?

Gort is the one true g-d
Gort is the one true g-d
Gort is the one true g-d


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