Jimmy Carter would be proud.

"25,000 children were trained this past summer in Palestinian Authority summer camps in the use of firearms, the making of Molotov cocktails, methods and operational rehearsals for kidnapping targeted leaders, and conducting ambushes.  Tragically they were indoctrinated for a new generation of war -- not for peace."

[Link: www.operationsick.com...]
 

"The complete and abject moral emptiness of this man is stunning."

I would suggest that this is why he has the top position at the UN.

Mr. Annan could, if he had the slightest shred of integrity, do a great deal to alleviate Palestinian suffering. I trust the details will follow.

Bastard.

Annan: "They remain stateless and oppressed."

Sure, give them a state:

"Since we cannot defeat Israel in war, we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish a sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel."

Yasser Arafat, on Jordanian television the same day he signed the Declaration of Principles on the White House lawn in 1993
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It's pretty bad out there when you become numb to things like this.

"I wish to join with those from around the world who today express the deepest solidarity with the Palestinian people in their continued suffering. They remain stateless and oppressed."

G-d but I loathe him. What a piece of human garbage he is.

Annan and the organization which he supposedly heads is giving the Palestinian Arabs a license to kill Jews.

Regarding #4, here is what the Declarations of Principles state, that Arafat signed on the day he made the above statement:

"The Government of the State of Israel and the P.L.O. team (in the Jordanian-Palestinian delegation to the Middle East Peace Conference) (the "Palestinian Delegation"), representing the Palestinian people, agree that it is time to put an end to decades of confrontation and conflict, recognize their mutual legitimate and political rights, and strive to live in peaceful coexistence and mutual dignity and security and achieve a just, lasting and comprehensive peace settlement and historic reconciliation through the agreed political process."

[Link: www.mideastweb.org...]
 

Surely this dictator can be trusted, give him a state!
 

Come on coffy... what about the Kurds? what about the Tibetians?

They have undermined efforts to curb violence and fuelled hatred and anger towards Israel.

May he burn in eternal hell.

"I wish to join with those from around the world who today express the deepest solidarity with the Palestinian people in their continued suffering. They remain stateless and oppressed."

Yes, let *them* suffer. As long as their "stateless condition" is far enough away from him, he thinks he can still swing decent deals with their paymasters. (Who, BTW, are the ones keeping them "stateless and oppressed.")

Shouldn't all that "wink, wink - nod, nod" cause these "politicians" to develop nervous tics?

But it is not a surprise when he expresses solidarity with his cohorts in criminal mass endangerment of children. If the man truly sympathized with the *people*, he'd have to act on the behalf of the abused, exploited families. At least of the Palestinian families. So his deeds reveal his heart.

No surprises here. Move along....

I often wonder how Israelis who have lost loved ones in terrorist attacks react and feel about remarks like those Annan and Carter made recently.It is like their saying in so many words" the Palestinians just can't help what their doing because their so poor and oppressed".This is all your fault, if you would just treat the murderers of your loved ones nicer they would stop bombing you and your children and stop celebrating everytime it happens like they won a huge football game.God this world has become such a mixed up,sick place.

And he outright lies, the Palestinians have a state already, it's called Jordan. He is number one on my list for a fiskie.

US out of the UN

UN out of the US.

Mr.Annan and his antisemetic organization the UN can take their bigoted opinions and shove them as far as I am concerned.Since they seem to think the lives of Palestinian children are soo more important than the lives of Jewish children, why should Israel even care what they think in the first place?

Out of the last four U.N. secretary generals, two have been African islamists and one has been a Nazi. That should tell you all you need to know about this foul organization.

They remain stateless and oppressed

Through no fault of their own, of course. Right Kofi?

What a prick.

Y'know...the U.N. originally seemed like a good idea, but it was supposed to remian the neutral party in things like this. Kick them out. They aren't worth the effort worrying about

The UN is long overdue for an American Secretary General. I nominate our chief diplomat - Donald Rumsfeld.

This is going to put Annan way ahead in the Fiskie sweepstakes (since Carter will likely be ineligible).

Umm, where is the Israeli government funded operation where people can go online 24/7 and see video of Kofi's standing ovation after Madhatter's "The Jews run the world" speech? The Hamas (was it Hizballah?) flag that flew side by side with the UN flag near the Lebanon border? On and on and on. It's just freaking super that Israel has so many wonderful professionals, but why are they forbidden to hire half a dozen competent PR people?

I'm stunned by Kofi's statement, that it was said out loud anyhow. Really at a loss for words, especially any that aren't obvious. It's like being taken to court by a lady and hearing her address the judge as "Daddy." Guess the only good out of this ongoing hate-fest is that the constant bullying of Israel keeps the UN for doing even more damage to the rest of the world than it otherwise would.

But still, why does Israel play by their rules? Attempting to deal in good faith over and over again has proven to be a bad move, at best. The bloodshed's coming, and the longer it's held off the worse it's going to be, measured in dead and maimed Israelis. Not solving her borders and citizenship issues only prolongs the violence and generates more enemies around much of the world. Time to come up with a policy, announce it, along with intentions to wage total war on any nation that wishes to oppose these measures. And give the UN the finger while walking out.

It's not going to get any worse than it is now, except maybe in the short term. The world will realize it's a new ball game when UN resolutions mean nothing. Other nations can rage in their media, but everyone will realize it's an empty gesture. Arab leaders lose massive face when their UN power over Israel vanishes in one day, and they prove unwilling to act in any other fashion. Leftists will get no satisfaction from a victim they are no longer able to torment. The Jordyptians will rot, since once Israel has nothing more to give to them or do with them, all charity and support from their "friends" evaporates next to immediately. And Israel will regain long-lost respect when the world sees by actions that she's not going to put up with any shit, and won't be bothering anyone that doesn't bother her.

There'll be peace in Israel when Jews love their children more than they love being liked by their murderers.

Jeezus H Christ! The UN is getting as annoying as a herd of Amway salesmen on Crank.

Send them all to Belgium... that state seems to be good at hosting useless international bodies.

#13 Kragar(Proud to be Kafir): LOL, you think he knew the Fiskie nominations were coming and decided to give us a reminder that he's a solid contender?

Reminder to Israelis (beating head against brick wall): Less than one year 'til our elections. Every promise or commitment you fail to secure from candidates before then will be evaluated by a president who's a moderate-to-rabid liberal jihadi-enabler, or one who cannot be re-elected again. Nah, forget I mentioned it. It'll all just sort itself out somehow. It's only life, death, freedom, sovereignty and the Holy Land at stake.

Let's review multi-culturalist non-judgmental Kofi UNnan policy on the Religion of Peace.

When an Islamic man rapes you... YOU SHALL BE STONED HARLOT!

When an Islamic man murders you... ITS 'MILITANCY'!

When an Islamic murders an Muslim... TALLY IT UP v THE JEW TALLY!

When an Islamic murders a woman... IT's AN HONOR KILLING!

If you search for weapons... IT's A HUMILIATION!

If you defend yourself... YOU PERPETUATE THE CYCLE OF VIOLENCE!

If you build a fence for protection... YOU ARE A TERRORIST!

If you are a Jew... you fill in the blank.

Let's review the Multiculturalist pledge shall we:

Don't ever judge... that would require 'judgment'... something the UN representatives of tyrannies, that ignore the UN charter, won't tolerate.

Think I'm 'over-the-top'? Then come back after the next major slaughter of innocents for a big "I told you so" because belligerent ignorance will guarantee more terrorism...

The problem is that these statements are REPRESENTATIVE of world opinion, as the Geneva escapade shows.

DANEgerous you rock!yeah,these MFs would have nothing to do if there weren't any losers to buttress up.Carter,Hillary,TeddyK.etc are such self loathing losers that they must make a world where everyone is a scumbucket.But we homey's don't play dat no mo.Damn ,this Ukiah brandy is gooood.

Just when I feel like the world couldn't be more insane and people like Annan couldn't be more willing to see Israel destroyed, I discover the following.

He is married to Nane Lagergren, the niece of Raoul Wallenberg, a man who rescued thousands of Jews from the Nazis.

WHAT THE F**K?

I realize there is no direct correlation, but the juxtaposition of his statements and his wife's family history makes my mind swim.

Turn the UN into co-ops!

To quote Kragar

"UN out of the US, US out of the UN"

This bastard must have heard that it's the start of the nomination process for the 2003 Fiskie - and decided to try to clinch a sure nomination.

Wanker.

Well, if there was any doubt, we now know what side this first class idiot is on.

The only problem is, if the US pulls out of the UN, who / where will any balance come from? Wouldn't it be better to stay in the UN, pay only 1/178th of the annual budget as opposed to 40%, and show our displeasure directly and firmly until people realize the UN is as big a farce as the League of Nations was.

What I would like to see is the US take the diplomatic gloves off. What is the down side? That there are some nations that will not like us? We're there already. Their biggest fear is the US will throw it's weight around.

It's like in the Tick:

"I'm slowly going sane in a mad world!"

Yeah we could solve the world's energy problems real quick that is if we could harness all the energy of hate thrown at Israel from the UN.

And they've got to be spending about 90% of their time anteing up the pot with hate against so they can destroy small little country of Israel. A-holes have got nothing better to do than practice HATE.

I am not sure I have the vocabulary to express the disgust I feel.

The Palestinians are "stateless and oppressed" are they? Well, gosh-darn it, it is their own doggone fault!

They were:

Offered a state of their own in 1936 (peel plan) they refused and launced the great arab revolt.

Offered a state in 1948. (UN plan) they refused and joined with 5 arab states in a war of genocide. When they lost they got their own UN agency to give them welfare. In no arab state did their arab brothers attempt to settle them (except partially Jordan, where the king was assasinated for his trouble). Arab states, not Israel put the palestinians in refugee camps and Arab states, not Israel, keep them there today.

When they were under Jordanian (west bank) and Egyptian (gaza strip) rule from 1949-67, they did not engage in any terrorism directed against their brother arabs for a state in the west bank and gaza. Instead they engaged in constant terrorism to destroy Israel. (Arafat launched his PLO and wrote its charter in 1964)

After trying once again to launch a war of genocide in 1967 and losing again, they palestinians refused to negotiate, recognize or make peace with Israel. Instead they just kept up the terrorism, and began to internationalize it, attacking Jews in places other than Israel. When the palestinians staged an intefada to take over Jordan in 1970, the Jordanians killed thousands and expelled thousands more.

Their brother arabs tried one more time to destroy Israel for them in 1973. They failed but terror attacks continued.

The PLO settled in Lebanon, carved out a state within a state, and started cross border artillery and rocket bombardments of Israel and continued terrorist attacks. Israel finally chased them out of Lebanon in 1982.

PLO terror continued, and in 1991 the palestinians were the enthusiastic supportors of Saddam Hussein. So much so that both Kuwait and Saudi Arabia expelled many thousands of palestnians from their respective territories as a precaution.

Then, after all this, the palestinians were given yet another chance for a peaceful state in the Oslo accords. Instead we have a terror state at war with Israel determined as ever to destroy her.

During all this, the UN did nothing to help Israel. Why exactly, should Israel give the palestinians any more chances and why should Israel care in the least what the UN thinks?

Talk about Pali suffering?

Has anybody compiled a list of rights or prohibitions that the Pali's have in the Arab bretheren countries they inhabit? That would be interesting to see.

Srebrenica Kofi strikes again.

My prediction for what Kofi Annan will say in his acceptance speech at this year's Fiskie Awards:

"Thank you for this well-deserved award. I would like to take this opportunity to also express my solidarity with the poor oppressed people of Al Qaeda. The satanic United States is forcing the noble members of Al Qaeda to live like animals - they stay in filthy caves and huts and they are always on the run. This is humiliating for such righteous people. This situation is all the fault of the United States and the sooner Al Qaeda is given a homeland that they can rule as they please, the sooner we will have world peace."

The UN could serve 1 great purpose:

MOAB test site.

Just Saying.

Why is the U.S. still part of this useless organization? When will America realize enough is enough?

35 Jamuka
Never! America will never come to the point where enough is enough.

Annan speaks for most of the world even people in the US government. Face it.
The only difference is he says it while some dance around it. No one is on the side of Israel and furthermore, they all condem in their own twisted fashion.

Truthfully, I would rather have those that hate me come right out in front and say it. This way I know who my enemies are. It is the ones who appear to be on our side and are not, that I worry about.

And, we don't have to look far, either.

31 tomcat

Has anybody compiled a list of rights or prohibitions that the Pali's have in the Arab bretheren countries they inhabit? That would be interesting to see.

Oh my! If we did that then everyone would be forced to tell the truth.
Anyway, pandering and lying is much more expectable.
Of course we all know that pandering and lying has far reaching and dangerous consequences, don't we? Yet with all we know, rather than face the inevitable consequences from pandering and lying we much rather use denial.

If I have taken you around in a circle, well this is how it is. We are like dogs chasing our tails. How sad. How pathetic.

As a disaffected former Democrat, I am continually amazed at how ersatz candidates like Dennis Kucinich and Howard Dean can bow down to the holy altar of the UN when their moral bankruptcy is put on daily display.

Disgusting, all around.

#27   Athos

I agree. The US should stay in the UN and bollix it up Big Time by vetoing resolutions, just like the Soviets did during the Cold War.

As far as the dues go...is our continued reluctance to pay them the reason why the UN wants to enact global taxes...so they can fill their own coffers?

They suck.

Another fine example of the moral bankruptcy of this group of cretins. Don't forget that Madeline Albright was quoted as saying that Kofi was the best sec-general the UN has ever had during her recent ass-kissing Bush-bashing trip to Europe. They deserve each other.

Kofi is just perpetuating the Leftie myth of Palestine. Most people still, mainly out of ignorance, think that Isreal is in control of the whole area, and Kofi's statement buys into this superficial and essentially ignorant view of the Palestinians as poor wittle victims. Too bad Isreal isn't more like her Arab neighbors; if she were, she would have solved the Palestinian question long ago using the time honored Arab method: genocide.

Kofi Annan has been bought and paid for with the Arab 'golden handshake'. He will be able to retire in comfort.

In the meantime he is able to make plenty of mischief. Damn him and all his enabler support staff. This whole thing had died down until this Geneva charade came along and now tempers are hot again. They're trying to put the pressure back on Israel; there've been no successful suicide bombings; the fence keeps getting built and Hamas is in hiding. The Palis had to do something so all the usual suspects (absent the "Sarandons") are at this Geneva conference stirring up trouble.

Israel should just keep on keeping on; get that fence finished and defend your borders!

velvetelvis, kragar:

Agreed, US out of the US, UN out of the US. Absolutely, unequivocally, immediately.

Too busy to read other comments for the mo.

I am so pissed off with this tosser and his rotten organisation. I fell sorry for the 'palestinians' situation too. But the blame lies right at the door at their own door and their leaders, Arafat, and all the other bastards across the ME who are willing to use them as an Israel bashing tool.

They are clever though. A 55 year propaganda war has that makes them look angelic and the Israelis as the bad guys. Bastards

"Let us resolve not to rest until the Palestinian people finally obtain what is rightfully theirs," Annan said, "the exercise of their inalienable rights in a sovereign and independent state of Palestine."

Where does it say that the people living in the west bank have a "right" to a country? Tell me Kofi. Tell me where and when the palestinians were given the "right" to their own nation. And if that is the case, then why the fuck doesn't the UN do anything about it? Maybe because you're talking out of your ass? Attempting to sound important, when you have no authority at all?

Thank you Kofi, you have made your stance crystal clear. I would like to point out that, "those from around the world who today express the deepest solidarity with the Palestinian people" would include every radical Muslim terrorist group including Al-Qaeda and most of the rouge states that exist today. I would also like to point out that he didn't say he agreed, he didn't say he shared beliefs, he expressed "the deepest solidarity" with the Palestinians and their supporters. Solidarity is defined by Webster as, "unity (as of a group or class) that produces or is based on community of interests, objectives, and standards." Annan has just officially expressed unity with the interests, objectives, and standards of groups such as Al-Qaeda and Hamas.

Think about the significance of that for a moment.

Actually, nationhood is a relativley new concept on planet earth. For eons before there were nations were kingdoms and regions and such. Other than what the LEague of Nations created, there is not one "nation" which was created out of what was rightfully anyones, but always though conquest and war. Even if Israel (and much of the surrounding area) rightfully once belonged to the JEwish people, that isn't why the LoN established Israel.

He's really trying hard to get that Fiskie award.

ericinwaco (#46),

Yes, people are being forced to stand up and take sides. Kofi has stated his beliefs in no uncertain terms, how can he now still carry the mantle of impartially in UN commitments?

And where does Sen. Clinton stand? Firmly behind Kofi.

Home again, Hillary bashes Bush

"We need to get the U.N. back in as quickly as possible to internationalize this," Mrs. Clinton told "Today." "We need the legitimacy of the United Nations in order to move forward."

See, Mrs. Clinton believes we need "legitimacy" in Iraq.
Does that mean she doesn't oppose what we did/are doing, but it just needs the proper UN seal of approval for it to be 'cool' with everyone else? Who knew all those third world dictatorships were such sticklers for paperwork.

And what an interesting Catch22 situation that would create. The UN runs from Iraq and won't return until their security is assured, but will do nothing to assure that security.

The 'legitimacy' of the UN indeed.

The UN acts effectively as a pressure valve; it serves the useful purpose of allowing about 100 marginal nations, who otherwise have no power to effect any real change in the world, to stand on a soap box before their fellow despots and rail against the evils of Western imperialism and Jewish colonialism. Although the rhetoric is often nauseating, as a political body, the GA is toothless.

I would however, like to see them pack up and move the operation to another country -- say Algeria -- as they are stinking up my hometown.

I agree #50 So they know what living in fear is all about , not knowing when a bomb will blow in their faces.

The problem is that the UN in most Americans' minds has become an august international body that is somehow greater than the sum of its parts. The US has institutionalized UN action in most of our wars and has given it the intertia that is given all long-standing traditions.

Most Americans do not realize that the UN is really France and Syria and Libya and "Palestine" deciding how bad Israel is. I thought that Bush's foolish games with the UN would expose its true nature and maybe it did to some, but Bush keeps trying to "save" the UN. There will never be a better opportunity for us to get out of the UN, and as the Democrats make our ostracization at the UN their big reclamation project, we will continued to be pulled down into that vortex.

I think we can trace this "rock solid" phenomenon back to the cold war where borders throughout the world were stable. England and France had carved up the third world into nation states and most people did not realize that much of this was based upon colonial bargaining and expediency. The Russians made sure that their colonies and slave states remained stable. Somehow this translated into our collective consciousness that national boundaries existed from time immemorial and were sacred. That is how Iraq, whose history as a country dates to the 1920's can be thought of as the "Iraqi people," when in essence it is at may "people" who do not share the same values nor nationalism. Sunnis, Shia, Kurds, Assyrians, Chaldeans, Marsh Arabs share no desire to remain "Iraqi."

We as Americans have come to accept that national boundaries mean shared national aspirations like our Constitutional Republic which is bound by shared values. Until we start to realize that the "nation-state" is not sacred and that the UN is not a bedrock institution we will be immoblized in our foreign policy. Seeing the "Palestinian People" as other than Arabs, indistinguishable from Arabs living in Syria, Arabia, Kuwait and Iraq is a direct result of our fealty to this "people living in the same area are a people" concept that has driven our quest for "stability." That is just how the State Department wants it and that is how it will stay.

# 50 Henry:

The UN acts effectively as a pressure valve;

I'm assumiong you mean a safety valve, where the little dip-sh*t countries get to rant and rave, or even whine and seethe, at the big bad US and those nasty Jews?? Even with all that, effectively??? Kindergarten is more effective, with better behaved children.

What right-thinking person listens and acts on anything Kofi, as the elected leader of a morally degenerate political body, says?

they are stinking up my hometown.

There I agree with you. Since the UN is so big on returning land to their 'rightful' owners, give Turtle Bay back to the turtles!

How much longer is Kofi's term, anyway? Is there a defined limit, or is it like a sports commissioner where he's there at the will of the membership for as long as they want him to be there?

#53 Rick Z

What right-thinking person listens and acts on anything Kofi, as the elected leader of a morally degenerate political body, says?

As much as I loathe this duplicitous Jew-hating toad of a man (can you tell I dislike him?), he is the emblem and embodiment of the riffraff that he represents in the UN. You can't really expect someone like Khadafi or Mbeki to accept as Secretary someone who is a product of Western thought and culture. Think of it as watching a horror movie starring Bela Lugosi -- his presence makes us cringe but you have to admit, he is perfect for the role.

#54 Kelly:

LOL! At first I thought it was some sort of trolling comment.

He wants to have it both ways:

Annan took pains to say that his remarks did not mean to "ignore the suffering of the people of Israel" and said there was "no justification" for Palestinian attacks on Israelis.

Cheesy Politician, isn't the terror attacks the reason why Israel built the wall?

#57 Andjam

A little bit of levity is important. The fact that the only example of official racism that can be found in Israel is against black cats it should be noted and spread.

I posted the link on
atlanta indymedia and they hid the comment. I guess they only want unsubstantiated posts of bigotry and bias.

Kelly: it's a funny story. But please don't post the same thing in several threads -- you're going to run into a new spam-catching routine I'm working on that detects multiple posts with the same content.

when did all palestinians become terrorists?
jeez.. this blog is going all to shit

Charles:

The complete and abject moral emptiness of this man is stunning.

Well said.

Is it any surprise that the UN as a whole can't detect terrorism even when it bites them on the ass?

#20 Model4

There'll be peace in Israel when Jews love their children more than they love being liked by their murderers.

Indeed.

A one-step plan to ending the suffering of the Palestinian "nation":

Stop paying attention to their "cause" and it will go away.

# 61 gijoe:

So tell me, when was the last Palestinian rally against splodeydopes? When was the last Palestinian rally FOR women's rights? Where are the palestinian people of conscience rallying against the use of children for immoral propaganda purposes?

Until then, all Palestinians are guilty through their inaction. If someone can't stand up for themselves, against the mass of public opinion, for what's right, then they, and you, should simply STFU and STFD.

#20 Model4

Excellent post, particularly that last gem. Is that your own or does some other righteous person get the credit? Not that it matters; it's all of ours now.