No, no. The Zionazis are mistaken again. Islam is a Religion of Peace®. Those soldiers mistook the stalwart Palestinians in their Halloweid costumes...

Wow! A First!

pats self on back.

Isn't this the second attack on a school that has been stopped in the last two days?

These people are not human!

who allegedly were planning to attack a school. One was reportedly wearing an explosives belt.

One was wearing an explosives belt like those used by suicide bombers

Great job AP. It may have been an explosive belt for other purposes.

#4

Perhaps they are into the construction business? Like the way the mafia is in the protection business?

That mosque should get the Rachel Corrie treatment.

# 6 Chuck

I am in full agreement.

Children are a legitimate target in this war against repression. Their Jewiness makes them enemy combatants.

/Abe GreenhouseGas aka Abu Yasser Asser Sucka

like i posted on the other link, this has to be my absolute worse nightmare...
sad facts of israeli life,, the kids get drilled on what to do if a terrorist enters the building,,,
" mommy, the teachers all have to quickly close the doors to the classrooms , and we all have to get queitly underdesks,becuase if he gets in the class starts to shoot, the bullets can bounce on the walls'
eden told me this when she was in 5th grade. i forgot the rest of the detals but they were quite specific, and delivered in a very eveb manner by my than ten year old. schools do have security guards, and i pray with all my heart that they dont have to prove how effective they are at stopping someone getting in.
by the way, it wont be the first time terroists have targetted schools and kindergartens,, see maalot, etc..

I posted this link on the Israel Not Happy with Colin... thread but it bears reposting here.

Three days after Syrian President Bashar Assad called for renewed talks with Israel, the Palestinian Islamic Jihad, whose offices are in Damascus, sent two suicide bombers to attack Israeli schoolchildren in Yokne'am and more Israelis in the northern city of Beit She'an.

A senior security official told Channel 1 TV news Wednesday night that Islamic Jihad headquarters in Damascus issued the order to its Jenin cells to carry out the attacks. The order was given in the past few days, the source said.

Syria again.

A Shin Bet source said the two men left Jenin Tuesday morning and set out for Bardaleh, where they planned to cross into Israel. "They told investigators that they had chosen the location as there is no security fence in the area," he said.

For all those protesting the fence, go to hell!

Security officials noted that there are a number of different cells affiliated with the Islamic Jihad and the Fatah Tanzim in Samaria which continue to plan attacks. On Wednesday, the security establishment registered 42 warnings of planned attacks.

That's 42 planned attacks in one day! I am at the point where I feel like I can't read the news anymore.

Highly politically incorrect (and really ticked-off)interrogation threat: tiny implants/injections of porcine-derived materials into various parts of their anatomy if they do not talk really well. No more raisins then!

Excuse me while I go and puke. A school. A freaking school.

This outrage was planned from a Mosque, right?

My ex-wife thinks I'm a Nazi because of my views towards the ROP.

Jesus Christ.

But those children are IDF in the making, which makes them COMBATANTS you see!

Just don't you dare harm a hair on those poor Palestinian childrens' heads, you MURDERERS, especially when they're wearing their cute little Hamas outfits and their new plastic My First Martyr explosive belt.

/Djimmi Carter off

Double standards are fun, people. Embrace!

the maalot killing in 1974.. 22 kids, 5 teahcers,, throats cut

[Link: www.yesmalot.co.il...]

This story is breaking news on Fox right now.

Oh wait, my bad, it's Scott Petersnotinhispantson.

The Jeruslame Post has some additional information:

"A Shin Bet source said the two men left Jenin Tuesday morning and set out for Bardaleh, where they planned to cross into Israel. "They told investigators that they had chosen the location as there is no security fence in the area," he said."

The UN, major media and world leaders all consider the security fence to be a provocation and a major mistake. All the more reason to complete it, and soon.

At this point, I think Israel is to be reviled whatever it does -- or doesn't do.

I plead of you, Israel, do whatever you have to do to save your citizens, and damn everyone else. Including the US if need be.

I always like to see how the AP end their reports. Invariably it's with a "blame Israel" tone, and this one doesn't disappoint.

But the new neighborhood, and a series of Israeli military raids on militants in the West Bank this week, have threatened to torpedo the talks in Cairo.

The article starts off on an "Israeli aggression" note too:

Israeli police raided a West Bank mosque on Wednesday, capturing two Palestinians who allegedly were planning to attack a school. One was reportedly wearing an explosives belt.

I hate AP/AFP/Reuters ... take your pick. As far as I'm concerned they are responsible for much of the rising anti-Semitism. Bastards.

Jsut because there has not been a successful splodeydope operation since October 4 does not mean that there has not been any attempts. Last month the IDF and Shin Bet nabbed at least 15 splodeydopes. Finish that fucking fence already. Kill any one who was involved in this thwarted operation. The on the ground intelligence that the Israelis have is awesome.

Just reading that makes me sick to my stomach.

They were deliberately targetting a school filled with small children.
That just makes rage overwhelm me.

Where's that damned rope.

Assad Calls Israel Source of Violence

Syrian President Bashar Assad on Wednesday accused the Israeli government of following "the policies of escalation and extremism," making the Middle East a more dangerous place.

In a speech at a banquet honoring Brazilian President Luiz Inacio Lula da Silva, Assad turned to Syria's recurring theme that Israel and its occupation of war-conquered Arab lands were at the core of Palestinian-Israeli violence and turmoil throughout the region.

Assad accused Israel of rejecting an Arab willingness to make peace. He claimed that tension throughout the region was due to "the policies of escalation and extremism the Israeli government follows and its actions of aggression on the Arab people in Palestine, Lebanon and Syria."

Aargh!

@11 zulubaby

You and me. I had to stay away today, I am so filled with stressful anger. I do not know where the citizens of Israel get the fortitude to live daily lives without going over the edge!

#18 ChgoAtty2001

At this point, I think Israel is to be reviled whatever it does -- or doesn't do. I plead of you, Israel, do whatever you have to do to save your citizens, and damn everyone else. Including the US if need be.

I'll second that emotion. Israel needs to get some big brass ones. The US Department of Submission (think Colin Powell) might object ? but most of us would cheer.

@22 zulubaby

The usual path, of taking truth and twisting it into a lie to fit their needs. They steal everything, history, religion, culture and truth. I cannot say anything good about any of them anymore.

Thanks to the likes of Hillary Clinton who spent the last week in over in Afghanistan undermining the war effort and the likes of Jimmy Carter, encouraging the "Final Solution" , Jews and US citizens around the world can look forward to being murdered precisely because Hillary and Jimmy are convincing the terrorists that we will cut and run and that the path will be opened for the extermination of all Jews in Israel and everywhere that the Muslim sword can reach.

Hillary and Jimmy, the blood of innocents will be on your hands.

#20 Joel:

Last month the IDF and Shin Bet nabbed at least 15 splodeydopes.

Don't worry, I'm sure the Isreali government is already making plans to release them from prison to try again.

Hamas lives to kill another day because Sharon allows it.

Islamic Jihad lives to kill another day because Sharon allows it.

Hizbullah lives to kill another day because Sharon allows it.

Arafat lives to kill another day because Sharon allows it.

Syria continues to support murdering Jews because Sharon allows it.

Hopefully the day never comes, but wait and see what Americans do if these maggots attack one of our schools. Israelis just have different priorities.

However, this fence does seem to be working well as an interim measure. Kudos to the Sharon government for implementing it. Hope they stick to their guns fence.

quark2, I'm in the same place. I can't stand it.

This is so frightening to comprehend. As Margaret Thatcher once said, the good guys have to be perfect or lucky 100% of the time, the murderers just have to be lucky once.

How far is the fence from being completed? When's it likely to be done?

Model4

What gets me is the Israelis making the so called "confidence gestures" such as lifting roadblocks in order to "ease the life" of the Pali population. As if the Freaks will appreciate it. None are so blind as those that refuse to see. Every humanitarian gesture that the Israelis make is rewarded with new attempts at terror. Kill them and finish that freaking fence already. It is scandalous that that fence is not finished by now. How much money can it cost to put up a simple 10 foot wall, later you can put sophisticated things on it such as sensors? I fear that one day we will not be as lucky as we were today. Sharon tries to accomodate Bush too much and gets the execrable Powell stabbing him in the back.

At this point, it should be clear to all that these guys could have been caught roasting and eating Israeli babies, by order of yasser and the PA, and it would not make one whit of difference as far as european and american sentiment towards Israel and the need for a pal state are concerned.

Israel has castrated itself over the last 3 years.

#22 zulubaby

Don't get upset reading what the moronic looking, inbred, Syrian dictator Baby Assad has to say about anything. He is the perfect end result product of a British University education.

Joel, I'm so sick of Israel being portrayed as the greatest threat to world peace, I'm just sick of the lies!

I'm stressing :-(

zulubaby

Those who are predisposed to think evil of Israel cannot be convinced otherwise. No matter how many innocent Jews are slaughtered it will always be Israel's or Sharon's fault. What I am sick of is organizations such as al Reuters and the A.P. who editorialze in their reports rather then report honestly. Everything gets spun in an anti Israel slant and there are too many people who believe everything they read. If The New York Times says so, then it must be Gospel.

#35 zulubabe,

[hug]

Hang in there!

Let's just be ever so grateful and send out a prayer tonight before we go to bed for the continued safety, and good work done by the brave men and women (some of whom are Arab and Druze) of the IDF, Shin Bet, G.S.S., Border Police, security guards, etc. who protect the people of Israel. May their aim always be true and for those who perish defending innocent Israelis, may God reveive them into His glory.

I will foretell, not if but when the splodeydopes start targetting civilians over here...there will be a rise of vigilantism like we've not seen in over a hundred years.

If they thought the cattlemen were terror producing in driving rustlers into the ground, the muslims haven't experienced the kind of fear that these 'cowboys' will instill in them.
And I'm looking forward to it.

And if it's like what the American revolution influenced in causing the french to rise up, then we'll see a wave of the same thing happen in europe. There aren't enough military or police to stop the majority of the population from going on a western jihad of their own.

#35 zulubaby

Bah. We'll survive this, too, and turn it into a Jewish holiday. In a few generations it'll just be another excuse to eat too much.

zulubaby

Some good news...the camera I am recieving is a Nikon CoolPix 2100. I'm looking forward to going crazy picture taking. :)

A big hug from me too.

Joel, I'm so sick of Israel being portrayed as the greatest threat to world peace, I'm just sick of the lies!

As anyone who has spent a bit of time here realises, Israel is about cafes, surfboards, and barbecues. We are perhaps the most "non-threatening" place on earth.

Since everyone is hugging everyone else, I will ad my cyberhug and go and watch Law & Order. That new Asst. D.A. played by Elisabeth Rohm is one good looker!

Hang in there LGFers, hopefully by tomorrow the IDF will have (take your pick) killed, captured, plenty of terrorists and the fence will be further along to completion.

(#43) Tamar

Please stay threatening enough to beat back the frothing, Islamist/Arabist hordes.

And enjoy the beaches and bbq, if you can avoid the smashball games.

How long before we hear the howls of protest about how this raid was yet another example of Israel's "humiliation" of these poor terrorists, who weren't doin' nothin,' just going out for that elusive pack of cigarettes they never seem to have on hand.

Blow up that damn mosque and teach them a lesson.

Tamar (#43)

As anyone who has spent a bit of time here realises, Israel is about cafes, surfboards, and barbecues.

... add beautiful people, great food, and some of the best and happiest times of my life. And of course there's Jerusalem, the most magical place on earth.

Mr Pol (#41)

Another

They tried to kill us. We won. Let's eat.

:-)

Thanks for the hugs, you guys are the best! Thank G-d for LGF, the only thing that keeps me sane some days.

FWIW Debka claims the two captured Palis aiming for a school were "officers of Palestinian General Security Service which is under Arafat’s sole control".
If they were from Syria instead, maybe we'll see another Israeli air force fly by over Damascus tomorrow. Or an attack on occupied terrorist camps in Syria.
Zulu baby- cyber hugs. Let's hope tomorrow is better.

Zulubaby-

I take it your stress is the reason you are still awake at 2 am California time posting?

BTW, the natural blonde thing is really ruining my image of you looking and sounding like the black Englishwoman in the Eddie Murphy movie "Metro".

Speaking of attractive black woman with charming accents, the European Community super computer model brings a 1000 to 1002 mb ( ~50 mph/80 kph) tropical storm into Jamaica very early Saturday morning and brings a healthy snow/wind/rain storm to the East Coast of the US Friday through Monday, but no Canadian style "Perfect Storm"

Even using the more conservative US models, the United States Marine Prediction Center is predicting 50 to 55 mph sustained winds along the coastal mid-Atlantic.

Seas expected to build to 24 feet/7m offshore by Saturday with 15 feet/4m waves along the immediate coast.

Be aware the US model, while suggesting temperatures will be cold enough for snow away from the immediate coast ( and even along the coast from NYC north/eastward) also suggests a fairly sharp boundary to the snow/dry line, which it forecasts to be from central North Carolina up to just north of DCA to near Philadelphia to near/just south of NYC and along the southern New England coast. The good news, for those in NYC and BOS hoping for a snow day Monday, was that last year from 3 days out the GFS averaged almost 100 miles too far south on the big winter storms.

BTW, the still unnamed strong tropical disturbance north of Panama/Colombia has redeveloped deep convection near the probable center, with coldest cloud tops colder than -80C, which is a big time thunderstorm.

#49 Ed Moran etc.

There is no perfect storm; only perfect harbors...

Perfect illustration for why the wall is necessary, and the hell with Powell, Carter, Annan and the rest of the terrorist apologists.

Assad is making peace noises to distract everyone's attention from his real agenda, and the moronic EUnuchs and the UN will swallow that snake oil to the last drop. Israel can never give back any part of the Golan to that murderous regime.

Now just wait for the howls about the sons of apes and pigs entering a holy mosque and insulting the RoP...

Lizzy - I don't know how you send your kids off to school every day. Each new day is a new act of faith. Be strong!

zulubaby - I know how you feel, 'cause I'm feeling that way, too, most all of the time. Israel is such a beautiful country, and its people are beautiful, too. I wish I were there right now. It's cool, no humidity...

@49 Ed Moran

And who will be the recipient of your vote for mayor?
That white skinned fraudi front man, or our naturalized citizen Sanchez?
I wouldn't trust White as far as I could throw my dually over my shoulder!

White was head of the Clinton/Gore Texas campaign, and has ties to Hezbollah fundraising.

All I need to know.

However, I live in unincorporated Harris County (at least until HOU decides our tax base is high enough so they can annex us to pay for more urban police/fire/welfare/graft, ala Kingwood, TX, miles away and not even in Harris County, but part of HOU none the less.

Bed time.

It would be suicidal to give up the Golan Heights. It would be suicidal to return to the green line of 1967, which is militarily impossible to defend. And the arabs know that. They are assuming either that way or demographically they are going to win.
But they aren't ...they are losers anyway they go, unless miracles of miracles they lay down their arms and declare peace.

***crickets***

Ed Moran (#49)

I take it your stress is the reason you are still awake at 2 am California time posting?

I don't sleep much generally but the stress doesn't help any. I need a vacation.

BTW, the natural blonde thing is really ruining my image of you looking and sounding like the black Englishwoman in the Eddie Murphy movie "Metro".

Sorry, not even close :-)

Amy (#51)

I wish I were there right now.

Me too, especially since my family just went for three weeks (I'm seething and whining about that ;-) Where have you been? I miss your posts.

#40, yep.

#32 Maine's Michael

Absolutely right, the Arab/Muslim/Nazis can do no real evil in the eyes of the world. It is beyond comprehension that these animals are quite literally getting away with murder; all they have to do is cry "we're the oppressed victims!" and the mad merry-go-round of appeasement and murder starts all over again. Not that we here need at LGF any more proof, but if the last 3 years doesn't prove to people of reason that a 2nd Holocaust is underway, then the world has lost its reason.

I understand why everyone thinks the wall is a good thing, but to me it is another Maginot Line. This is war goddammit! Defensive measures cannot win it, but the incredibly weak Israeli Establishment sees no other way but to hide behind it and hope for the best, while the monster on the other side continues to grow and become stronger. One day the wall will come down; either from the ArabNazis dancing on the rubble because the insane Jews tore it down as a "conciliatory gesture" or God forbid tank columns overrunning it; or because Israel finally found the fortitude and moral strength to tear it down and kill or deport every paleo in the heartland of Eretz Yisrael (sparing the clearly innocent). One of these scenarios will come to pass. If we lose faith it shall be the former; with God's help, the latter. If Israel falls, the world will be enveloped in a dark age. America, once the free world's only hope, will follow Israel, because we were too PC to protect ourselves. The insanity of Israel has already moved here in so many ways; it's just our immense size that will make the final blow take longer, but the same thing will happen here.

Pessimistic mode this evening...my apologies for spreading doom and gloom, but I, like many of you, are very fearful for the future.

To those of you in Israel, may i ask, what the hell is going on there? Where are the mass demonstrations against the feckless Sharon? Does it ever happen? Is it more a mood of fear or anger or just apathy at this point? Then again, America has pretty much forgotten 9-11, i.e., the emotional impact of it. This apathy is what the enemy is counting on.

Any speculation on what will give in 5, 10, 20 years? Where are we going?

Colin Powell, don't do it.

Why doesn't US Secretary of State Colin Powell appreciate that by receiving Yossi Beilin and the Geneva Accord gang in Washington, possibly on Friday, he is undermining both Israel's democracy and the road map the Bush administration has pushed so hard?

Would Neville Chamberlain have tried to negotiate with Hitler – after his appeasement policy had already caused the outbreak of the Second World War? In super-democratic Israel this can happen. The Oslo Agreement initiated by Beilin, Shimon Peres, and Yitzhak Rabin, has led to the most terrible and longest war Israel has ever known.

I don't know what to say anymore. I am thoroughly disgusted.

If the Bush Doctrine were followed here, those terrorists would have been spared the "humilation" of being caught.

Re: no. 57.

Well, for what it is worth here is my speculation about where we are going:

We (the US) will remain at war. The question is, will it be a war to impose a reformation/enlightenment on Islamic fundamentalism by creating democratic states (essentially what the US is doing now) or will it be a grim war of genocide fought with WMD for our very survival?

I am hopeful but not optimistic that President Bush's grand idea of bringing democracy to the Middle East starting with Iraq can work. Even if it does it may not mean much for Israel. This is a point that I don't think gets stressed enough. The Palestinian/Arab war against Israel is "democratic" in that the governments waging the war do so with the enthusiastic consent of the governed. Yes, this consent may be the result of one-sided education, media etc. but it is real all the same.

Now, what does all this mean for Israel?

The basic problem as far as Israel is concerned remains what it has always been: the existence of a Jewish state on land conquered by Muslums is fundamentally unacceptable to the Islamic world no matter what the details of its borders are. Israel's only choice is to make the cost of terror so high it will not seem worthwhile. To do that Israel is going to have to become much more bloody minded than she has ever been.

They set up a roadblock? isn't that collective punishment?

How long before we get the arabs or their fellow travellers like the ISM whining about Israel violating the sanctity of the "peaceful" mosque?

Too bad they didn't destroy the bomb belts in situ.

Scum.

Palestinian woman beaten for refusing to explode
By JPOST.COM STAFF

A Palestinian woman arrived at the Tarkomiya checkpoint and complained to soldiers that she had been beaten by 4 Hamas terrorists for refusing to serve as a suicide bomber.

The terrorists then escaped in the direction of Kiryat Gat. Southern command police are presently searching for the perpetrators.

[Link: www.jpost.com...]