I wonder what their excuse is going to be this time. "We were only following orders..."

I am truly ashamed that these people are my countrymen. I'm going to write this to some newspapers in Germany. Not that they'll publish it, of course...

Their hate and rancor of freedom has driven them utterly mad. May they rot in hell.

Hmm...technically not treason, since it's American troops whose deaths they're supporting, but it's definitely support of unlawful combatants.

Think Germany would extradite them over here? Wishful thinking, probably...

This is a good thing. They're out in the open where we can see them. hanszeebeeman should be here soon.

Happiness is a warm gun. Absolute joy is a concealed carry license.

I should say one more thing in the interest of honesty. I've always supported the right to own assault weapons, but I wanted controls put on the ownership. I thought one idea might be that the weapon stayed at a gun club that allowed you to play to your heart's content, but no way could you take it out of that confine.

I'm thinking - only thinking - about changing my mind on that issue.

Is ammo tax deductable?

OT

Anyone watching Hardball on MSNBC?

Matthews was interviewing Al Haig, who just said (at about 7:15pm E.S.T.) that the reason he quit the Reagan White House because of the Saudi influence making its way in through Jim Baker and the Vice President (Bush 41).

That is news (not about the KSA influence, but that Haig announced it).

The context was the discussion about Jim Baker and his new role as Iraq envoy.

Amazing.

#2 hans

You beat me to it. Don't be ashamed. They aren't your responsibility any more than the KKK is mine. Write. On your blog. You are better than you know.

Stop apologizing. Start fighting.

best,

grayp

At last the truth about the "Peace movements" starts to come out. 'Kill for peace and the the dead will fight no more'. Nihlism on parade, as an outpatient mental health field exercise armed to the teeth with ignorance and spoiling for a fight to the death. Bertrand Russel, this is your legacy.

Debka:

Telephoned bomb threat and two suspicious packages shut down extensive sections of Washington’s Metro rail system Friday disrupting thousands of commuters’ morning travel. FBI technicians opened packages from distance. No word of contents.

Any word on this?

Oh good it looks like a reunion of the baader-meinhof gang.

Is ammo tax deductable?

I f**ing HATE HATE HATE being Canadian...!...

#4, grayp. Yes if it is a charitable donation. Should I E-mail you where to send it?

To these anti-war militants previously uncoverted, welcome to islam.

Fact: Any terror supporter is a muslim even if they define themselves of another creed.

You could say "there is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his messenger" three times, or you can really get allah's attention going straight to step 2: jihad against the kaffir.

#6: grayp

Thank you. I'll do.

You know, the mangy Baathist dogs financed by this fund drive, and their ilk, are not targetting just American soldiers and innocent Iraqi civilians. In the past few weeks, they've killed and wounded Spaniards, Italians, Poles, Japanese and Koreans. They've shot down a transport plane, owned by a German company, DHL -- fortunately with no casualties, but no thanks to them. They murdered Sergio de Mello, a Brazilian diplomat attached to the United Nations. They bombed the International Red Cross headquartered in Geneva. Are all these people also fair targets in their war against the war? As Glenn Reynolds says, and both Charles' link and Raymond's post make clear, these Germans aren't anti-war or pro-peace; they're just on the other side.

PS: These Germans, and the Italians, are really no worse than those Americans secretly, and sometimes vocally, wishing for American casualties.

Fact: Any terror supporter is a muslim even if they define themselves of another creed.

No offense, youhatehippies, but this sounds just a wee bit paranoid. You're seeing muslims where they aren't really there.

Hans

I agree with Grayp

#11, Sorry grayp that was supposed to be me on the header. Will accept any and all of your unfired rounds of standard calibre, prefer .223 but most others will do. Will recipt you by return mail after recieving.

hey hey, ho ho
the CPA have got to blow (up)

hey hey, ho ho
the Iraqi innocents have got to blow (up)

/"peace" activist

The LLL, white-supremist and Islamofascist sure are making nice bedfellows these days.

#10 Deathberg: Sweetie, we aren't that far away. C'mon down!

No, seriously, being American is not about where you are born (our immigration laws notwithstanding) - it's about an idea. If you don't like being Canadian and would prefer to be a Yankee (yes, that includes the baseball team) DO IT! This is one of the few times I will include my email so we can talk.

#11 #4grayp

Thanks, but I already know my home address.
smooch

When can we expect Ted Rall to start a similar collection effort.

Okay - time out for a laugh! From the editorial pages of the Atlanta Journal Constitution - - - a letter blaming President Bush and his rich cronies for killing THOUSANDS of Americans with the flu.
______________________________________________

Forget Iraq's WMD; we have influenza

While President Bush and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention were pushing for Americans to get immunized against smallpox and anthrax, they failed to ensure that our flu vaccine supply was adequate to handle a severe outbreak.

We need not fear Saddam Hussein and his "weapons of mass destruction" -- we have our government and the greedy pharmaceutical companies to take down thousands of Americans this winter.

HELEN TRENT
Marietta

More stupid letters from liberals

I had my flu shot in October...also bought my kid the Elmo doll around then, when supplies of both were more than adequate. But then again, I am a registered Republican...and plan for the future and take responsibility for my own actions.

Not entirely OT:

I came across a suspicious story about the founders of Ism, a pro-terrorist "peace" group. It seems that Adam Shapiro and his wife Huwaida Arraf have been awarded $75,000 to start the "Palestinian Strategic Nonviolence Initiative." The grant was made by "Echoing Green," a global social venture fund. The "Palestinian Initiative" will be based in Ramallah to educate and train young "Palestinians" on non-violent political strategy. Wasn't that the same false premise that Ism was founded on? It sounds like Adam and his wife have found another way to fund their anti-Israeli activities.

[Link: www.echoinggreen.org...]

There's another link to an interview with the weirdo couple. Adam states that nonviolence is the only solution. That's funny since a few months ago he gave several interviews with the Arab press where he praised the "Palestinian resistance." In the same interviews his wife urged all Arabs to unite and "beat" Israel. They also support the right-of-return for millions of phony "Palestinians' which would destroy Israel. It sounds like a major scam to me. Does anyone have information on "Echoing Green" and who is really behind the group. I've never heard of any of their leaders.

[Link: www.echoinggreen.org...]

Echoing Green
(212)689-1165
@echoinggreen.org

Adam Shapiro
(202)494-0471
adamsop@hotmail.com

OT, but a positive "note": The Iraqi National Symphony Orchestra performed in Washington on Tuesday night, with W in attendance.

What is really interesting, however, was the difficulty that an immigrant from Iraq, a journalist asked by OpinionJournal to write an advance article on the symphony, had in interviewing the musicians:

As an immigrant from Iraq with extensive knowledge of the issues, I would interview the musicians about their situation, and that of artists in general, under Saddam and in the new, post-Saddam era. I would look at what orchestra members have been through--the general manager had served 16 years in prison because he refused to work as a spy for the regime. And I would try to learn about the orchestra members' hopes for the future, their institution and for Iraqi arts and culture as a whole.

This was a good news story for the government. As Mr. Powell said in introducing the orchestra on Tuesday night, "What we're about to hear is the sound of hope, the sweet, sweet sound of freedom." So you'd have thought that people at the State Department and the Kennedy Center would have been falling over themselves in the weeks before the concert to arrange media access. Instead, they acted more as if they had defectors from the North Korea Symphony Orchestra on their hands and as if the slightest press exposure would trigger an international incident.

Read the whole story: [Link: www.opinionjournal.com...]

OT - I thought the French were supposed to be KEEPING THE PEACE in their neo-colonial possession of the Ivory Coast?

With repeated gunfights in the streets, the French contribution can be summed up as,

"About 4,000 French and 1,200 West African troops are in Ivory Coast to monitor the cease-fire line."

Way to monitor those cease-fire lines there Froggies!

Sheesh, just like Rwanda....

OT
Mohamed ElBaradei - the Egyptian diplomat who is director-general of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA)

Ha'aretz interview 12/12/03

on Israel's nukes:

"I cannot certify that [Israel has nuclear arms], but again, I read the papers and you can take it as a given. I haven't seen that Israel ever denied it. We work on the assumption that Israel has nuclear capability."

on Iran nukes:

"You are saying it is 'assumed,' but we do not work on the basis of assumptions. We work on the basis of facts, witnesses, and records. We do not take a leap of faith and jump to conclusions. Their activities could have been used for nuclear weapons, but could easily have been used for civilian purposes, as well. Unless we see direct evidence that there is work and activities on nuclear weapons - and we haven't seen any of that - we do not jump to conclusions."

[Link: www.haaretz.com...]assumption

OT (smack)

Countries that opposed the U.S. decision to invade Iraq have no right to protest U.S. initiatives restricting reconstruction contracts to allies, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, the ambassador of Saudi Arabia to the United States, said Friday.

Bandar said he thought it was "amazing" that war opponents now "feel they have a right to share in the pie" of reconstruction contracts.

He said even more dangerous than terrorists themselves are those who say they condemn terrorism but don't actively fight it. Bandar repeatedly praised Bush's decisions to fight terrorism, invade Iraq and send troops to Afghanistan to oust the Taliban.

"We should be grateful for what the United States has done to get rid of those two evils, the Taliban and Saddam," Bandar said, generating applause from hundreds in attendance of a luncheon co-sponsored by the Bilateral/U.S.-Arab Chamber of Commerce.

Bandar kept his comments about terrorism to a minimum despite recent terror attacks in Saudi Arabia and warnings of more to come.

"That fight has been imposed on us," Bandar said. "None of us asked for it."

Nail A. Al-Jubeir, spokesman for the Royal Embassy of Saudi Arabia, said recent attacks on foreigners' housing compounds demonstrates the "evilness" of the al-Qaida terror network.

"We've uncovered a number of cells, a number of weapons," he said. "We expect more attacks."

Fifteen of the 19 hijackers on Sept. 11, 2001, were Saudis, and al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden was born in Saudi Arabia. The kingdom revoked his citizenship in 1994.

And 8 of the victims were fellow alumni of Bandar.
[Link: www.jhu.edu...]

Saudi Arabia has spent more than $17 million on public relations, advertising and lobbying in the United States since the Sept. 11 attacks, according to Justice Department records. Television ads have depicted Saudi Arabia as aligned with American interests, and the country has hired Washington lobbying and law firms to advance its case.

Bandar has toured the United States in conjunction with the ad campaign to promote Saudi Arabia's relationship with America and its commitment against terrorism.

"We are your friends because you have never taken an action that would hurt our people," Bandar said, adding that Saudi Arabia will continue doing its part to "be shoulder to shoulder with you against evil."

His p.r. firm ought to give him a clue about exactly how a statement like that sounds - to us.

Saudi ambassador praises U.S. efforts to combat terrorism, invade Afghanistan, Iraq

#8 Colt

i live south of the beltway and didnt hear anything about it...... got a link?

nothing on the "news" of course. geeeeeeesh.

OT (smack) On a lighter note [TGIF]
Now You Can Call Him Sir Mick Jagger

#27 jared
Police Question Man About Bomb Threats
Two Suspicious Packages Found

POSTED: 3:23 PM EST December 12, 2003
UPDATED: 6:15 PM EST December 12, 2003

WASHINGTON -- D.C. police say they have found a pickup truck that they had been looking for in connection with bomb threats and two suspicious packages found in Northeast Washington Friday morning
[Link: www.nbc4.com...]

O/T: The French occupation hits a familiar bump...

disgusting waste's of flesh. may they rot in hell.

on the bright side the internet is giving average people like us knowledge.

of people like this,

of the true nature of our enemies,

and the ability to show these "snapshots" to family and friends. to spread the word.

#22 Haiku

I would sell my left foot to smack that smug look of Shapiro's face. I hate him with every fiber of my being. Here's a lovely quote from him in a NY Post, April 9, 2002 interview

"The Palestinian resistance must take on a variety of characteristics - both violent and non-violent. But more importantly it must develop a strategy involving both aspects. No successful non-violent was able to achieve what it did without A CONCURRENT VIOLENT MOVEMENT." Shapiro also declared ... " we are certain that if these men were killed in such an action would be considered shaheed Allah." (legitimate martyrs)

There are plenty of monsters in this world to hate. However, his appeasement to monsters and his deceptive ways puts him in a special category.

I would love to start my own movement: "Goys for kicking Adam Shapiro in the groin"

If this is allowed to continue, then the Germans (the country, not individuals) have declared war on the US by proxy.

Evil (capital E) is running rampant in the world and we will see more things like this.

We must stand or we will fall.

#32 Ms. Andi

I totally agree with you about Adam. His such a concieted jerk. The first time I saw him on television I got a bad vibe. Adam is a liar and media manipulator so I wasn't surprised when I found out the ugly truth about him. By the way what does "goy" mean? Sorry about being ignorant.

#34 Haiku

Goy means gentile (non-Jew).

ooppss I type #34 instead of my nick. I'm really on a roll tonight.

Sorry about being ignorant.

Oh, don't worry about that.

We Americans are beat over the head on a near constant basis for all of our past transgressions (slavery, killing Indians, this, that and the other...) but Nazi Germany, which occured only 60-70 years ago - has not seemed to hurt the Germans.

Seems like they should be beat over the head in regards to their ethnic cleansing past. Maybe we should start saying things like "once a Nazi - always a Nazi")to those pathetic Germans. Funny how the LLL and euro-elites like to call Bush Hilter. A HUGE CASE OF PROJECTION.

The Germans (some, anyway) are easily swayed by maniacs and they like to side with the human torturers. nice.

Any country that can do what Germany did in WWII and produce a guy who thinks he can advertise in the popular press for a victim to murder and cannabilize and gets away with it, it should surprise noone that they could also call for the murder of Americans trying to do a humanitarian service. A curse on them all! SCHROEDER DOES DIE HIS HAIR!!!

BTW Ms. Andi #36: I know you talk to Zeyad at Healing Iraq and I went back and my browser cuts off his address. Do you have it? I'd appreciate it. If you can't post it on here let me know and I'll give mine on my next post.

This isn't just a problem in Germany, however.
I know first hand of individuals in Montreal, Canada, who take the side of the anti-American resistance. These French-Canadians cheer these anti-american groups on and wish that they defeat "the occupier".
And there are plenty of lefties in THIS country who also side with the anti-american resistance.
(obviously)
Never underestimate the power of the dark side.

actually goy means nation.

[Link: www.bible.gen.nz...]

ywg goy "nation" unlike later usage which understand the goyim (pl. of goy) as gentile nations, goy can refer to Israel as to other states.

In Amos at:
6:1 of Israel as "first nation"
6:14 of an oppressor nation
9:9 of Israel "among all the nations" and
9:12 of the nations called by Adonai's name.

#38 Elizabeth

Here is Zeyad's blog.

Here are some other excellent blogs.

Omar

Ays

Alaa

Zeyad, Ays and Omar are all dentist and know each other. Alaa is an engineer and so poetic and brilliant. There is someone who regularly posts on all the blogs as "Elizabeth." So if you want to post there, you might want to use a different nick.

#40 Ploome

Oh, have I been using that wrong?

Shoot.

#42 Ms. Andi

some people think goy is derogatory

and its not

It just means nation, although often used to indicate

'(of) a nation other than Jew'

(if that makes sense)

Ms Andi. regarding

"Goys for kicking Adam Shapiro in the groin"

count me in. :-P

#43 Ploome
I was told long ago that goyim meant unclean and was the same word used for cattle. Now I'm not so sure.

Can anybody look that up or debunk it?

What's the Hebrew word for cattle if that is not the case?

45 Apache

Can anybody look that up or debunk it?

geesh..get your wife to do it

Get stuffed ploome.

Your answer now makes me think it IS a derogatory reference.

In a way, you did answer my question.

Your answer now makes me think it IS a derogatory reference.

a rocket scientist...

bwaaaahahahahahah

Apache (#45)

I have never heard the word "goy" used to describe cattle or unclean, and it is not a derogatory term. It's simply a Hebrew and Yiddish word and means non-Jewish.

Why are you being an asshole ploome?
I just asked a simple question, and you come off like a jack ass.

If you did not feel like giving an answer then why bother replying?

Thank you very much ZB.
I appreciate it.

you just assumed someone shoudl look it up for you

reminded me of when I was a child.......one would ask,

'what did your last slave die of'?

you can't spell google?

LOLOL

I believe cattle= bahama in Hebrew..but I may be wrong

goy = nation
goyim = nations

ploome, you should have just answered instead of sneering all smugly at the fact that you know something that someone else doesn't.

Seriously, don't be condescending, you won't make too many friends going through life if you just assume that everyone else should know the same facts that you do.

Maybe this is just my inner teacher speaking to you. I like informing people and I don't just blow them off if they ask me a question that they could easily look up, because they could just as easily ask that question in an online forum from a group of knowledgable people and expect a reasonable answer.

Apache (#51)

No problem.

Oh yeah, and Hans Ze Beeman, don't feel guilty about these choads in your country. You aren't one of them. You stand opposite them.

Also, personally, I don't think you should feel guilty about the Holocaust either. You had nothing to do with it and if it were to happen again you know that you would be one of the Germans that fought on the side of freedom and humanity.

I often think about the wrongs that my nation has committed and used to feel guilty about slavery, segregation, genocide of the Indians, etc. but I realized as I got older that I had nothing to do with any of that and I would have opposed such practices if I had been alive at the time. I can't go back in time and change the wrongs that my nation did, and crying over them will change nothing, so instead I stand up and oppose such practices as they exist today in other parts of the world.

oh for heaven's sake - my ex almost-mother-in-law called me shiksa [put name here] for years. "Goy" "goyim", etc., are not derogatory terms - they mean -"gentile".

Bertha, I still miss you. By the way, "Bertha" means "chattel". And believe me, she wasn't.

#54 Allah-Puncher

You must be new. Otherwise, you would know just what ploome has contributed. I personally think he/she is independently wealthly, 'cuz otherwise there would be a day job involved that would preclude all this.

Here's a hankie - wipe the snot off your face.

I personally think he/she is independently wealthly, 'cuz otherwise there would be a day job involved that would preclude all this.

well, wish I was independantly wealthy...

and there is a day job.....but I am the boss.

:-P

Here's an excellent poster for this new German "Peace" Movement. It's from another campaign for National Socialists.

[Link: www.calvin.edu...]

This needs only one comment: Von Ribbentrop-Molotov II. Evil knows their own, far-left and national socialism are and always will be kissing cousins. Notice how they always look at the US as enemy #1- Hitler declared war on the US, three and a half years later, he was dead and his filthy 1000 year regime with it.

Fifty years after that, Stalin's children threw his worthless legacy onto the asheap next to Hitler's.

Charles, there should be a link to David´s blog in the anti-idiotarian section. If there is one, I can´t find it.

"This has nothing to do with pacifism. Our stance results from our sceptical assessment of the present American activities in Iraq."

Joschka Fischer in interview, Dec 03, 2003
(available only in the German section of the Foreign Office website)