If I were a Washingtonian, I would be mortified by the caliber of my congressional representation. This lamebrain and Patty ("Osama built day care centers") Murray are two of the most fitting examples of when your well-meaning but half-a$$ed, emotion-driven ideology trumps whatever minescule amount of common sense you may have, at one time, possessed.

* * * Holds head in hands and groans! * * *

I think we have found Dean's SecState.

I bet Dean is happy that this ape didn't sign up for Dem Prez, because he sure beats Dean by a mile when it comes to being leftist.

Lay off the booze, Jim.

I'm hoping Dean picks him as a runningmate... the crater they would leave after THAT particular bit of self-destruction would be something to behold.

And yes... I stole that from Laura Ingraham this morning. The guy she was talking to said descending that low might be more than the Dems could ever recover from... meaning no Hitlary, ever.

Hope, Hope, Hope...

Brave men, those insurgents

In the ambush Monday afternoon in the town of Samarra, 60 miles north of Baghdad, guerrilla scouts released a flock of pigeons as the U.S. patrol approached, apparently as a signal, a military statement said.

Two gunmen on motorcycles opened fire on American vehicles, and then took cover among children leaving school. The attackers used a roadside bomb, automatic weapons and rocket-propelled grenades in the attack but inflicted no casualties on the patrol, the military said in a statement.

U.S. snipers suppressed enemy fire and hit no civilians, the statement said. A company commander on the scene said 11 insurgents were killed in the ensuing firefight.

[Link: story.news.yahoo.com...]

This man is cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs.

The citizens of Washington state's 7th district must be so proud.

Ummm OK, so this idiot thinks President Bush asked Saddam nicely if it was OK to capture him at the weekend then?

GWB: Hey Saddam, I'm getting a bit of political flak here, do you mind if we come and dig you out of your rat hole a week next Saturday? I could do with shutting up some of those anti-war pals you used to hang around with.

Saddam: Sure, George old buddy, old pal! That anti-war lot are so dumb aren't they? I know, you can dig me out of my dirt hole, embarress me in front of the world and win a nice political victory for yourself. Get your boys to come along and I'll surrender quicker than a french man facing the Waffen SS! Hey, I wouldn't want to damage their nice uniforms!

Some how I don't think that was quite how it played out!

And they wonder why I support term limits.

(#8) Geepers

A lot of them are, sadly.

Here's another leader with similar issues, although they disagree on this one point:

Iran's Leader Relieved at Saddam's Arrest

TEHRAN, Iran - Denouncing Saddam Hussein as a "bloodthirsty wolf," Iran's supreme leader expressed relief at his capture

Ok, so far, so good. Something we can all (with the exception of Mr. McDermott) get behind, but (you knew there had to be one)...

but said the world would also be better off without President Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

Ingrate.

OT: But Almost Too Good To Be True:

Ramsey Clark to Defend Saddam Hussein

#2 - no, he's better equipped to be the UN ambassador.

It's simply amazing to hear the conspiracies come out about the who, what, when, where, and how of Saddam's capture.

Each is trying to outdo the next for outlandishness.

Saddam's daughter says her dad had to have been drugged to be captured without a fight (sad to say, this is not as crazy as those to come since her dad did kill hundreds of thousands without blinking an eye, but when push came to shove, he was the one at the bottom of a hole and his survival instincts kicked in)

McDermott saying that we knew basically where Saddam was. Yeah Jim. We knew he was somewhere in Iraq. Maybe even somewhere around the Sunni Triangle. Maybe even somewhere basically near Tikrit. Doesn't mean that we could pick him up any time we wanted because we didn't know exactly where he was until he was captured.

Etc.

Ding dong, the filthy, raggedy man’s in hole.

A pile of dirt, in a little, tiny hole

Ding dong, the filthy, raggedy man’s in a hoooooole!

Hi ho the derry oh

Sing it high, sing it low.

Ding dong, the filthy raggedy man’s in a hoooole.

He’s gone where the goblin’s go, belooow, below, below

Below, Yo ho, yo ho.

Ding dong, the filthy, raggedy man’s in a Hoooooole!

I may be missing something here, but hasn't the creep just accused the army officers searching for Saddam Hussein of taking part in a huge charade, and conniving with a political party?

Can a serving officer sue for libel in the USA?

Just a thought.....

#8 ±3 Geepers:

Yep, the sad thing is, they are!

OT
US, France agree on cutting Iraq's debt in sign of thawing relations

It's simply amazing to hear the conspiracies come out about the who, what, when, where, and how of Saddam's capture. Each is trying to outdo the next for outlandishness.

Um... you do know of course that Saddam has actually been tracked for months by the Giant Space Laser Frisbees built by Boeing with money from the tanker lease slush fund and manned by fembots built by Halliburton and Diebold. The fembots look like Monica Lewinsky, who was also a fembot, smuggled into the Clinton White House by agents of Richard Mellon Scaife and FoxNews, for the purposes of bringing down President Clinton. The real reason Bush hasn't caught Osama is because Osama would tell the truth about the Giant Space Laser Frisbees, 9-11, and globular clusters.

We're through the looking glass, people.

It's also a strange coincidence that we've never seen McDermott and Santa Claus in the same room together. Could they be the same person?

#12 VtK:

I was saying that yesterday - he couldn't come out fast enough from behind Milosevic and friends to say he'd represent the Butcher of Baghdad.

[moment of wishful thinking]
TV Announcer at Baghdad War Crimes Tribunal (Michael Buffer) -

Now entering the docket, the Butcher of Baghdad, the slaughterer of souls, the despot of despair; the malelovent mustache himself, Sadddddaaaammm Hussseeinnn.

Also, in his corner, the flippant flayer of facts, the layer of lies, the ungrateful citizen of the US, Ramsey Clarke

And for the prosecution:
In walks a mother without her children; a father without his family; a son without his parents - all victims of Saddam's genocide.

[/end moment of wishful thinking]

#6 - it's a good thing our troops are adopting Israeli tactics in dealing with these terrorists, as the terrorists are adopting Palestinian tactics, i.e., surrounding themselves with children.

Someone better buy McDermott a tinfoil hat and ask him that if Saddam's capture was really "staged," why didn't they stage it during Bush's surprise visit to Iraq? Wouldn't that have made a better photo opportunity - the conqueror meeting the vanquished (and wouldn't that have made the Arabs crazy)?

#7 BH

LMAO

I saw this mentioned on another blog (Hootinan, I think) and the very good point was made that these kind of statements are very helpful in getting undecided voters to understand the underlying nature of the Democrats. The chattering classes would always find a conspiracy theory, whether aided by public figures or not.

So we can expect McDermott to throw his support to Kucinich any day now.

Right, Jim. The timing on this was critical to Bush, what with the economy roaring into recovery, his approval ratings rising, and a recent poll showing that he'd thrash any Democratic candidate, Bush was just desperate for good news, hence the stage-managed Saddam arrest. Or is it really Saddam? Maybe it's a plastic Saddam, have you considered that, Jim, mmm?

SoCalJustice (#13),

Well of course they are, he stood up to the evil Bush. Plus he's got a hip web site: Jim McDermott.

From your link:

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei recalled that the United States ignored Tehran's early warnings about Saddam and supported Iraq (news - web sites)'s war against Iran in the 1980s that killed more than a million people on both sides.

"The same Americans who are against Saddam now, including the current secretary of defense (Donald Rumsfeld), shook hands with him in Baghdad and supported him to put Iran under pressure," Khamenei told several thousand Iranians gathered in Qazvin, about 100 miles west of Tehran. The speech aired live on state-run television.

LOL. Interestingly, the "Saddam will indict the West" meme is also the new battle cry of the LLL:

Hoping for amnesia

It is hard to believe that either Washington or London would relish the prospect of an open trial. They would not want Saddam to adumbrate their support for him - credit-by-credit, pathogen-by-pathogen, weapon-by-weapon - during the 12 years before he became an official enemy by invading Kuwait in August 1990.

Saddam's worst crimes, when presumably many of the mass graves now disingenuously "discovered" by the West were dug, had been committed when he was the West's favoured ally and trading partner. At the time, his crimes against humanity, for which charges should now be laid, elicited little if any concern in Western capitals. Quite the opposite.

There's a swell argument: We didn't prosecute him for the crimes he committed before, so when we do now we'll be guilty too? L³ogic.

I thought McDermott's name was Bob & nearly referred to him as Baghdad Bob. I guess Jihad Jim is more accurate or something.

Ed Moran- amazing. Not that the "insurgents" hid among children but that 11 were killed without any casualties to civilians or the patrol.

On the radio today (stern show) some LLL called in saying Saddam was captured 3 weeks ago but wasn't announced until now as a "Christmas present". Just wanted to give these LLL a clue- if Bush waited 3 weeks to show off Saddam, he could've waited until December 24th to drop that bombshell.

Not that it matters... these nuts will believe whatever they want. BDS strikes again.

Does anyone remember the manner in which 1980s "peace activist" Petra Kelly died?

When the $#%t starts to hit the fan from Saddam's files, who will be this decade's version of Petra Kelly?

Darwin (#21)

...why didn't they stage it during Bush's surprise visit to Iraq? Wouldn't that have made a better photo opportunity...

Yeah, none of the conspriacy theorists I've seen quoted bother to explain why capturing Saddam in December is particularly good for Bush, as opposed to November or January. Of course, it's not like they've ever explained why going to war would be better for US oil companies than simply cutting a deal with Saddam. I don't think logic is a prerequisite for conspiracy nuts.

#27, Frank IBC. Supposedly the murder side of a murder suicide. Did her lover go nuts from huggin too many trees, or was she just a too clever East German agent?

I want this guy to explain the importance of December 14th in the election cycle - because I can't figure out why this date is somehow full of propaganda potential.

If Bush were controlling the timing, a Sunday morning at 5:30 am would be the worst time ever. People always say to bury bad news on a Friday so that no one will see it - if that's the case then Sunday must be deep in the graveyard. No one is up early watching the news - they have other things to do (and I bet this guy thinks that Bush's core constitutiency is Church-going bible-thumpers, which makes the timing even worse). Believe me, there were people in the restaurant I went to that afternoon who saw the news and were shocked - so it didn't spread that quickly or well on a weekend.

It being Sunday also meant that the news magazine deadlines for the week had passed, and so they wouldn't even be able to report on the event for a week. It being 5:30 am meant the Sunday papers were already sitting on doorsteps.

Truthfully, the timing couldn't have been worse. But maybe thats because sometimes there is no secret timing! :P

A similar thing happened at work - our jurisdiction won a certain distinction for having the most entering autos and car thefts - I think anywhere - and we had a bit of bad press - made us look incompetent.

Then weeks before the Sgt's and Lt's exams, after months of "failure" - we make three arrests of car theives in 24 hours!

Coincidence!? Or did those up for promotion make secret backroom deals with the crooks!? Or does this conspiracy reach all the way up the Chief? The Governor? The White House!!!!????

What's it REALLY like to be McDermot and his minions of paranoid peace creeps? Must be like sniffing glue while mastrubating all day.

Baghdad Jim is now a certifiable member of the tinfoil hat brigade.
You would like to tell McDermott "Physician, heal thyself" but his schooling as a psychiatrist makes this unlikely.

Either:

1. He really believes this stuff, in which case he should be removed from office for mental incompetency; or

2. He's playing to his core constituents who actually believe this, in which case he's a slick politician with no integrity and his constituents are quite nuts and should not be allowed to vote due to mental incompetency.

or (most likely)

3. Both 1 & 2 are true in which case we need to have a mental competency test in order to hold office or vote, or start drawing representatives by lot with limited term sessions as a totally random choice can't be much worse than this current crop of raving moonbats.

#25 Geepers

Actually, I think that smh.au article is pretty accurate. Politically, it looks terrible, especially for Bush and the Republicans.

The ever changing mantra of the vanquished left

"George can't find Saddam, Osama Bin Laddin, Mullah Omar, The Leaker......blah, blah, blah.."

Now it's

"well, errr, ummm, obviously he waited for the right moment... it's a propaganda stunt....yeah that's it..."

So it's either he can't find anyone or he can but tucks them away until it's the right time.

*the screaming, hissing sounds of the logic train wizzing on by, no stops*

Oh, I meant to put those quotes into italics instead. DOH!

TEHRAN, Iran - Denouncing Saddam Hussein as a "bloodthirsty wolf," Iran's supreme leader expressed relief at his capture but said the world would also be better off without President Bush and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

Well, no wonder; with the fall of one tyrant, neighboring tyrants must be seeing the handwriting on the wall.

MENE MENE TEKEL, U PERSIAN!

#20 lawhawk

And for the prosecution:
In walks a mother without her children; a father without his family; a son without his parents - all victims of Saddam's genocide.

[/end moment of wishful thinking]

Not necessarily. I'm betting that's exactly what the prosecution will do. It'll be an endless parade of victims and survivors.

#34 Colt

Actually, I think that smh.au article is pretty accurate. Politically, it looks terrible, especially for Bush and the Republicans.

Embarrassing, not terrible. It’ll provide support & comfort to all those lefties who believe ‘if we’ve ever been wrong, we can never be right’, but I doubt it’ll change anyone’s mind.

Saddam: “I shook hands with Donald Rumsfeld!”

Prosecutor: “Did Rummy ever tell you to do this? [cues video of Saddam’s Dobermans mauling a woman to death and feeding on her carcass]

For an "educated" man, Jimmy sure does seem to be one of the biggest moonbats to pop up since Sunday. I mean, seriously, how stupid does he think the average American is? Does he honestly believe Dubya would have suffered 8 months worth of almost daily casualties, plummeting approval ratings, and growing disinterest from the public if he knew where Saddam was all the time? I've heard of political seppuku, but that not only takes the cake, it takes the whole damn bakery.

Asked if he thought the weekend capture was timed to help Bush, McDermott chuckled and said: “Yeah. Oh, yeah.”

Not only that, but Bush is stupid and his timing is bad. A week before the election would work much more to his his advantage.

The "Iraqi" "insurgents" on the other hand, are real smart. They figured out that the US army doesn't shoot at children, so now those intellectuals are using kids as human shields.

Send the Congressman a candygram telling him how much you like and admire his stance.

([Link: www.house.gov...]

Well, he's absolutely sewn up the DU vote.

I wonder if he's at all vulnerable in his re-election bid. Seems like there would be plenty of national support for whichever sane person decided to run against him in a Democrtatic primary.

I wonder if Gordon is in his district?

Hey Ed:

how about adding beheading to your monkier - it would be befitting as a customary sentence of death in the Arab world.

#38 brianstein

Considering that survivors of the genocide in Rwanda are being murdered before they can testify on war crimes in tribunals there, it's not a stretch to think that this situation might repeat itself in Iraq if there aren't sufficient safeguards.

Also,

Saddam: “I shook hands with Donald Rumsfeld!”

Prosecutor: “Did Rummy ever tell you to do this? [cues video of Saddam’s Dobermans mauling a woman to death and feeding on her carcass]

The prosecutor wouldn't ask this question because Saddam could always lie and say, "Yes."

Must be like sniffing glue while mastrubating all day

Scary what could happen if one got one's hands mixed up.

OT, but speaking of Saddam...

Boortz mentioned this, I didn't see that anyone else noticed. As a reporter went through the hut Saddam was staying in, he noted the Mars bars, the mess, and pointed out several cans of out beloved SPAM. Which is only, oh, 99.99% PORK. I'm sure Allah is pleased.

Another vitriolic exgurgitation from Jim McDermmidiot. I live in Washington state and am considering moving INTO his district just so I could vote AGAINST him in the next election! His spewings do not represent the opinions of his constituency. Looks like another House seat for the Republicans coming soon to a theater-of-the-absurd near you!

#49 bigel,

Let's relocate McDermmidiot, not Boeing or Microsoft! To France or Germany or Russia.

Seattle is giving San Francisco and Beserkley a run for th emoney as idiotarian capital of America.

Folks, I have the misfortune to live in Seattle, and Baghdad Jim isn't saying anything that his constituents don't already believe. He's the top loon from a city of loons. There's no hope for this town, it just needs to be nuked, bulldozed over, and forgotten.

Or given to Cuba. The people here have to clean out their pants every time they hear Castro's name.

But I digress. The reason that a total and complete waste of oxygen like McDermott is in office is because the people here are just as f**ked in the head as he is.

Yeah, McDermott’s definitely on to something. I like his thinking, only he doesn't go far enough. Obviously, Bush was feeling the heat and had to play his Ace in the Hole!! (The “capture” was so scripted that they couldn’t avoid this bit of sophomoric punnish humor to describe the sham.) You just know that they timed the capture of Saddam (if you can believe it's really him!) to take our minds off of the increasing number of American soldiers being killed, the developing Halliburton scandal and because Bush's lead over Dean in NH has narrowed to 23 points. They could have arrested "Saddam" anytime--all they had to do was activate the homing chip that they implanted in him when he had surgery several years ago. The existence of this chip is well known. But this wasn't necessary because the guy in the hole probably isn't really Saddam. The real Saddam has short hair and always wears an army uniform. A good friend of mine who has a cousin who is a well known barber to the stars, says that Saddam's hair couldn't possibly have grown so fast, and Saddam was known to have a dark mustache with no gray and he definitely didn't have a beard! This guy is a double, without question. You can't believe the "DNA" tests either. If they can clone sheep, they can clone DNA and transplant it into other people. Duh. A double could easily have been transplanted with Saddam's DNA. The government knows this, but Bush doesn't care if this guy's the real one or not; all he cares about is the good press--that's why they didn't kill this imposter when they captured him. The real Saddam would never stoop so low to go into a hole and if he had, he would have gone out in a blaze of glory like any self-respecting martyr. This "Saddam" capture was a set up from the start. How many soldiers do you know who would look under a small rug in a muddy courtyard? Yeah he was tipped off alright---by Rummy and his bunch. Give me a break! I bet this double was American trained and will end up transforming himself, being "reborn," and endorsing Bush after publicly disclosing the Iraq had WMDs but dumped them all in the ocean only because of the Bush war. And mark my words, that if "Saddam" ever comes to trial, he'll be found guilty just ahead of the November 2004 elections. After the election, if they don't kill him off to shut him up, he'll probably be paroled to some distant island for (wink wink) good behavior.

And, did anyone notice the phony Iraqi journalists when Bremer made the "We got him" announcement? That eruption of glee, and anger directed at Saddam was about as spontaneous as paying taxes. Suddenly the "journalists" became the news. I wonder who gained from that happening? And ever notice that the capture "celebrations" in the street all feature the same five people, all of whom look like Saddam or his double? You never see any blondes or redheads or men without mustaches. That's because most of the people are angry, afraid, and still hiding from the "ugly American" troops (Don't get me wrong, I support the military, just not the war or the people fighting it.) who are terrorizing the very nation they are supposed to be liberating. There's no door built that our troops won't knock on or knock down. If we were truly liberating the Iraqis, then we should let them rule themselves. What are we waiting for? If they want a dictator, that's their business. Saddam didn't do anything to me. We should be keeping our oily noses out of it. As soon as we milk Iraq dry of it's oil, this sham of a "war" will be over--not one minute sooner. In the meantime, Bush, who as everyone knows already isn't playing with a full deck, will have to figure out when to play the next card from up his long sleeve, to placate the gullible masses of Americans who think this war is for anything more than satisfying the greed of the empire-building, lying, money-grubbing, power-hungry oligarchic Bush administration and its lackey followers. Any president who would go to Iraq (if we can believe he was really there--my sources tell me the White House has a large, secret TV studio in its basement that can be made to look like any indoor or outdoor setting in the world) and have the nerve to hold a fake turkey and pretend it wasn't a fake turkey cannot be trusted to hold a real war.

One more thing---in no way, should there even be a hint of a smile (read gloat) at the (maybe) capture of the former Iraqi leader. I observed the edges of Bush’s mouth curling up ever so slightly during his announcement speech. God knows, we're already hated enough by the rest of the world without having our leader bring the further wrath of these nations and the UN down upon us. It's time we started to think and behave like everyone else, more along the lines of what I like to call a "please and appease policy" (PAP, for short) and stop being so damn belligerent and war-like on the world stage. Just who do we think we are, anyway? I must stop for now---the nurses are coming with my clozapine, and I have to remove my tongue from my cheek in order to swallow my pills. Afterward, I have to get back out on the campaign trail.

#17 J.D. 12/16/2003 09:05AM PST
"US, France agree on cutting Iraq's debt in sign of thawing relations "
(AFP headline)

LOL!! Hahhhhaaaaaa!.
"thawing relations" my eye. More like. 'Whoops. Obstructionism didn't get us anywhere, and now that Saddam has been captured by the f*cking Americans, we'll NEVER SEE A DECI-EURO OF THAT DEBT, so we might as well try to make the best of things and LOOK cooperative and "for" Prosperity in Iraq'.

God knows, we're already hated enough by the rest of the world without having our leader bring the further wrath of these nations and the UN down upon us.

Ooh ooh, the UN! Go hide under your bed. Fetal position preferably.

Really Charles, what have you got against pond scum? What did it ever do to you?

#6 "U.S. snipers suppressed enemy fire and hit no civilians, the statement said. A company commander on the scene said 11 insurgents were killed in the ensuing firefight."

Villagers there claimed only one person was killed, and he was an innocent bystander. I wasn't sure who to believe - villagers & hospital officials who were in a position to know, or army spokesmen who weren't - but if we had snipers in position & firing there was certainly more than one Iraqi killed, and they weren't civilians. And if there is Saddam-ish spin here, then I am forced to assume the same for the big 'battle' of Samarra, and figure several dozen bad guys really did get killed, along with the handful of innocent civilians (and those may have been killed by 'friendly fire' from the bad guys!)

McDermott was my next door neighbor when I was a kid, and his kids babysat me. He's a real nice guy, but his politics are totally, utterly cuckoo.

PS. If the Bush administration timed Saddam being found, why didn't they wait until, oh, 10 months from now, right before the election? With the current situation, plenty of other things can still derail Bush's reelection: a large terrorist attack on US soil, economic problems, etc..... There's still almost a year until the election.