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The Bike-Path Left

Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 4:20:57 pm PST

Mark Steyn skewers and roasts the angriest dwarf: The Bike-Path Left.

Howard Dean catapulted himself from Vermont obscurity to national fame very ingeniously. His campaign was tonally brilliant. He was an angry peacenik, an aggressive defeatist, he got in-your-face about getting out of Iraq. The problem with pacifism as a political position is that it’s too easy to seem wimpy, wussy, nancy-boyish, pantywaisty, milksopping, etc. In that sense, his fellow Democrat, Dennis Kucinich, has a pacifist mien: I’m not saying he’s a pantywaist or milksop, but he comes over as a goofy nebbish, as the Zionist neocons would say. The main impact he’s made on the Granite State electorate seems to be his lack of a girlfriend, which has prompted a New Hampshire Web site to try and find a date for him. Somehow one is not surprised to hear this. By contrast, when Howard Dean, shortish and stocky, comes out in his rolled-up shirtsleeves, he looks like Bruce Banner just before he turns into the Incredible Hulk, as if his head’s about to explode out of his shirt collar. Republicans are from Mars, Democrats are from Venus, but Dr. Dean is Venusian in a very Martian way. He’s full of anger.

But only for peripheral issues. Ask him serious questions about the president’s key responsibilities--national security and foreign policy--and the passion drains away as it did with Chris Matthews. David Brooks, visiting Burlington in 1997 in search of what eventually became his thesis “Bobos in Paradise,” concluded that the quintessential latté burg was “relatively apolitical.” He’s a smart guy but he was wrong. All the stuff he took as evidence of the lack of politics--pedestrianization, independent bookstores--is the politics. Because all the big ideas failed, culminating in 1989 in Eastern Europe with the comprehensive failure of the biggest idea of all, the left retreated to all the small ideas: in a phrase, bike paths. That’s what Bill Clinton meant when he said the era of big government was over; instead, he’d be ushering in the era of lots and lots of itsy bits of small government that, when you tote ‘em up, works out even more expensive than the era of big government. That’s what Howard Dean represents--the passion of the Bike-Path Left.

Being a cyclist, however, and a member of the Bike-Path Right, I have to say that I’m mortally offended by Steyn’s heinous conflation of cycling with the Dean campaign. I hereby declare a fat-tire-wa on Steyn’s narrow Canadian tuchis.

Bike paths aren’t just for angry dwarves.

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1 Jaffar  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 2:24:56pm

The grossly skewed world view of the Left would be comic, if not for the jarring disconnect Steyn mentions. Steyn, as usual, lits the nail right on the head. It is not a pose, or a political position, these people honestly believe that the jihadists is a lesser threat than Halliburton.

2 Doug  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 2:25:26pm

Today Dean said he would have been fine with the invasion of Iraq if the UN would have OK'd it - thus effectively saying he would give France veto power over our right to respond militarily during his administration. He's in deep, and should stop shoveling now!

3 Rayra[deleted]  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 2:26:35pm
4 Jaffar  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 2:27:39pm

Prez Dean to UN: "Oh please, mother may I defend the US?"

5 Narniaman  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 2:29:00pm

Why is Mark Steyn so smart?

It seems that week after week he points out something like this that everyone else has completely overlooked.

Thank God for the Internet!! I would have never have heard of the guy (and several others) without it.

6 Raj Against The Machine  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 2:33:21pm

That’s what Howard Dean represents--the passion of the Bike-Path Left.

While I, on the Bike Path Right...

7 Gary of Carlsbad  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 2:36:25pm

Ok, let's see if I can do it:

Grumpy
Sleepy
Dopey
Sneezy
Happy
Bashful
Doc
Howard

Did I get them all?

8 dc juggler  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 2:37:46pm

"... fat-tire-wa ..."

Brilliant, Charles. LMFAO

9 Yehudit  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 2:38:04pm

Great essay on Saddam by Aaronovich - he compares him to Nebuchadnezzar. Sounds like David A isn't so removed from his Jewish heritage. I can't imagine Hitchins quoting from the Bible.

10 Ms. Andi  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 2:41:20pm

Steyn better come up with a "bike-path right" article so Charles will call off the fat-tire-wa. Great piece though.


OT

If you like to vote for best Iraqi blog (and help make sure Riverbend doesn't win), you can here.

11 Iron Fist  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 2:47:53pm

When you put the pedal to the full metal jacket, it's no contest.


Ya gotta love it. If I could write like that, I'd be writing for a living, instead of writing software :-P

He hits the nail on the head. These people are totally clueless. Worse, really. They are completely out of touch with reality.

These people wouldn't bring a knife to a gunfight, as it were, in our current fight.

They'd show up in a toga singing Kum ba Yah.

And hope sweet ole Doc Holliday had a change of heart.

12 veebee  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 2:50:41pm

Charles,

You should see some San Francisco bikers who are among the most annoying and obnoxious types of SF LLL. They have their "critical mass" parade days when a whole bunch of them takes up the whole street during the traffic hour because they are better and more moral then car owners. I have friends who are delivery drivers, the last thing they need is to be stranded somwhere in a huge van because a bunch of spoiled kids dressed up as clowns are making a statement.

Unfortunately their *statements* work around here. Several years ago critical mass pushed for (and got) an initiative to build a bike lane on the Bay bridge (connecting SF w/the suburbs) which will cost about a million$$. It's doubtful that many people will use it because of the high winds and the long span of the bridge.

I think Steyn had their types in mind.

13 SoCalJustice  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 2:55:24pm

Funny. He doesn't sound Canadian.

OT
AFP on OBL:

Protestors raise their arms in the air next to a portrait of Saudi dissident and al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden. An American citizen was sentenced to nine-and-a-half years in prison for supporting al-Qaeda.(AFP/File/Jimin Lai)

Just a dissident.

And the corresponding story of the last Lackawanna kid:

Yemeni-American sentenced to prison for supporting al-Qaeda network

Sahim Alwan of the upstate New York city of Lackawanna was sentenced by a federal judge in Buffalo, New York. He pled guilty last April to "providing material support to the al-Qaeda terrorist organization," the department said in a statement.
14 John Gibbon (24hr adrenalin man)  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 2:58:45pm

Who needs bike paths when there ton of open land my FAT Tires can roll over!

BTW, I ride American only, Cannondale rider for 10 years.

Howard Dean can kiss my Mountain Biking ___

15 KPOM  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 3:04:46pm

I'm a right-wing cyclist too, but I thought that Steyn's piece was the most insightful piece on current politics that I've read. The biggest demand that the Angry Left has is that 9-11 (and its implications) just "Go Away!", so that they can return politics to worrying about bike paths and banning genetically modified organisms.

Dean is their guy - his foreign policy prescriptions consist of 1) insisting that we do nothing without the UN, secure in the knowledge that the French will never let us do anything significant; and 2) bribing Islamic countries in the hopes that this will make the militant Wahabis go away. #2 on the face of it is ridiculous - should we give billions of dollars in foreign aid to Saudi Arabia? To Syria? To Iran? More billions to Egypt, since the billions we give now weren't enough to deter Mohammad Atta?, but the hope is that if we pay them enough money, they will stop bothering us.

I am worried about how ugly this campaign is going to get - particularly if Dean is the candidate and starts tanking. It's early yet, and the Portland, Oregon Indymedia is already publishing lists of local Bush donors, plus charming suggestions on how to harass and vandalize them. It may be a long summer and fall.

16 ScottM  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 3:06:33pm

It's not cycling that's left-wing; it's bike paths. Bike paths may look sensible, but they are useless at best and dangerous at worst.

Red-blooded right-wing cyclists operate their vehicles on the public roadways, just like everyone else.

17 Frank IBC  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 3:13:09pm

I'm another proud member of the "Bike Path Right".

-The bicycle is a brilliant capitalist invention, from the Robber Baron era, no less.

-If the bicycle had been invented in the last 30 years, and not over a hundred years ago, do you think that the Naderites and tort lawyer extremist would have allowed such a dangerous device to be used by adults, let alone children, the elderly, and other vulnerable groups?

-Our current automobile-dominated lifestyle is the result of socialism (or at least mercantilism), not capitalism.

Tax-funded "freeways" paved through private property with the power of eminent domain. Same price per mile (via gas tax) whether you use the most expensive roads (urban freeways, bridges, tunnels) or cheapest (dirt roads).

Current homeowners enjoy cartel privileges through density restrictions; zoning and other laws prevent pedestrian and bike-friendly development - these restrictions on the free market result in developments where long drives are mandatory.

-And of course, getting one's expensive bike stolen, does not tend to promote liberal attitudes to the criminal justice system.

18 Frank IBC  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 3:17:16pm

Bike paths may look sensible, but they are useless at best and dangerous at worst.

Not necessarily. Many suffer from poor alignment, insufficient width, curb barriers, etc. But a nice 12-foot-wide, straight, level path on an abandoned railway alignment through an urban area is safe, convenient, and fun for all involved.

19 Frank IBC  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 3:20:43pm

But...

That said, Steyn is spot-on.

Veebee - can one bring a bicycle on the BART? Or hang them on the front of a bus? And how long is the Bay Bridge?

20 Ms. Andi  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 3:22:22pm

#12 Veebee

We have the same problem in Austin too. There will be 50 or so and they'll block traffic, run through stop signs and traffic lights. The customs they wear would be laughable if they weren't so obnoxious.

21 Yehudit  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 3:22:41pm
It's early yet, and the Portland, Oregon Indymedia is already publishing lists of local Bush donors, plus charming suggestions on how to harass and vandalize them. It may be a long summer and fall.

Would you please publish some links to that? I would like to publicize that this kind of harassment is going on.

22 veebee  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 3:22:53pm

Frank

Yes, one can bring bikes on BART, but, for some reason, not in the first car of a train.

23 veebee  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 3:24:56pm

And the bridge is 2 miles long. Which doesn't seem like a lot, but with heavy winds it is.

24 HalfLife  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 3:25:28pm

Steyn's analysis is brilliant. The Left has its pet issues - the environment, poverty, and the global economy seem to be the top three - and it really doesn't want to have to think about anything else.

In general, liberals (and I am one, sort of - but of the classic flavor) prefer to think about domestic issues. They believe the point of government is to help people - which is why they favor government spending and regulation.

Foreign policy runs a very distant second. The Left is suspicious that all foreign policy is driven by "corporate interests" and/or a naked drive to power ("imperialism"). Besides, it often involves war, which is violence, which is bad. Thus, the only clearly good foreign policy involves giving lots of money to poor countries for development or other "humanitarian purposes" - that's just another way to help people.

Mostly, though, the Left believes we should just "tend our own garden." Thus the repeated complaint: "We should fix our own problems before we claim the right to address someone else's!" It's a very isolationist, self-absorbed world view.

25 KPOM  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 3:29:44pm

Check out:

[Link: portland.indymedia.org...]
[Link: portland.indymedia.org...]
[Link: portland.indymedia.org...]
[Link: portland.indymedia.org...]

I purused Federal election law, and it appears that although you can't sell Federal Elections Commission contributor records or use them for commercial purposes, there is nothing specifically prohibiting use of these records for harassment (the harassment itself is illegal, of course).

26 Donna V.  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 3:35:04pm

Steyn's article ties in nicely with Prager's (also linked to on the LGF front page today.) Prager also makes the observation that the WoT is a huge distraction from the things the Left really wants to worry about - smoking, the environment, healthcare, etc. They don't want to believe anything is evil except for white Republican businessmen in suits.

BTW, Bobos in Paradise by David Brooks is an amusing take on the sort of privileged liberal yuppies prone to be Dean fans. The book was published before 9/11 and describes the '90's perfectly. I thought the WoT made the book obsolete, but obviously, there are plenty of people (like my kid brother) who yearn to be magically taken back to the good old days of the Clinton era, when we were focused on domestic issues and the stock market, and "the world liked us." They can't admit that Clinton's refusal to deal seriously with terrorism contributed to 9/11 - no, everything bad happening in the world dates from the second Duyba was sworn in and will disappear the minute Dean or another Democrat takes the helm.

27 Ariel  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 3:42:40pm

Frank IBC #17,

Good point about the restrictions on the free market created by the auto-oil-gov't-cartel.

HalfLife #24,

Nice Candide reference.

28 Engineer  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 3:51:45pm

#18 Frank IBC

Tell you what. As soon as they pass a bike tax to pay for those bike paths, you can have all you want. Right now you are a free loader.

29 JamesW  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 4:06:56pm

Charles should get in gear and stop peddling that nonsense!

30 Jamuka  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 4:13:43pm

Dear Charles and everybody else, is there some sort of poll I can refer that gauges how Americans feel about the Iraqi occupation and the Bush administration?

Hope to hear from one of you guys, thanks.

31 Baldy  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 4:14:52pm

[Link: english.aljazeera.net...]
Saddam’s Name Struck Off Prophet’s Lineage [Link: www.ivpressonline.com...]
Arabs Fall To Coyotes In Closing Minutes (In Sports...)
[Link: www.enquirer.com...]
Islam Part Of Holiday Program (in Mason, Ohio)[Link: www.scoop.co.nz...]
ISM Press Release: New Palestinian Resistance Camp [Link: www.thedailystar.net...]
7 Yr Old Girl Slaughtered After Failed Rape Attempt (Bangladesh)

32 Abu Radley  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 4:18:36pm

Scott M's got it just about right.

IMHO, I think the main difference between Bike Path Left and Bike Path Right is that the Bike Path Left wants to build bike paths to entirely replace automotive transportation -- they expect ALL of us to have no choice but ride bikes like a bunch of good little Maoists. I understand this attitude: I live in highway-phobic Washington state. I suspect the Bike Path Right, on the other hand, aren't trying to replace the car with the bicycle: they simply enjoy riding their bikes.

People on the right have pastimes; people on the left have causes.

33 right-wing-bikist  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 4:23:00pm
But a nice 12-foot-wide, straight, level path on an abandoned railway alignment through an urban area is safe, convenient, and fun for all involved.


I live near to such a path, and I beg to differ. It's safe on weekdays but on weekends with good weather, it's too congested with newbies, toddlers, rollerbladers, and pedestrians stopped in the middle of the lane having a chat with their neighbor.

Oh, and the grade crossings are pretty darn hazardous, too; Bikes pop out of nowhere from the point of view of the cars..

34 Elizabeth  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 4:42:53pm

Slightly OT, but not totally. I've just had the BIGGEST disappointment; Bill Maher is on Larry King Live right now now and some lady called in wanting to know if Bush was after 'world domination' etc.

Maher said no but then proceeded to give us more of the bike path left rationale; he said that he didn't think Bush understood 'Arab pride'! For G*d's sake! 'Arab pride'!

And if we did understand 'Arab pride' would that stop the WTC from coming down or stop bullets?

I had no idea Bill was an idiotarian. What a disappointment. ARRRRRGGGGH! Another idol with feet of mud.

35 Frank IBC  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 4:51:40pm

Engineer -

Good point about the toll-free bike paths.

{hanging head in shame}

Though they're still a lot cheaper to build than freeways, and even most streets. And less maintenance costs due to much less wear and tear.

right-wing-bikist -

Yes, many bike paths are victims of their own success. Would you be referring to the Capital Crescent Trail, by any chance?

Veebee - on the DC subway, bikes are restricted to the last car. I think it's so the big unwieldy (in this situation) bikes are less likely to get in the way of the crowds getting on and off. And in DC, it's restricted to non-rush hours as well.

And many buses have bike racks on the front. Limited to carrying one or two, IIRC.

36 Frank IBC  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 4:56:44pm

Elizabeth -

Maher was fired from one of his shows because of idiotic and insensitive remarks following 9/11.

Didn't understand Arab Pride

Hmmm...if one doesn't understand Gay Pride, is that going to cause a bunch of male flight attendants are going to hijack a plane and crash it right in the middle of the Breeders' Cup to protest the Defense of Marriage Act?

37 zulubaby  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 5:00:14pm

Elizabeth (#34)

Bill Maher is a tool. He said the 9/11 terrorists were "courageous" for flying airplanes into buildings.

38 Roll-aid  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 5:00:22pm

Yeppers... there is some element of the Left that I have not quite been able to pin down for myself....a resentment, almost a chip-on-the-shoulder or an 'attitude' that Things not done The Right Way are not moral by definition and if you don't believe me, Well here is what The New York Times (read by all Right Thinking People educated in the Proper Universities) says.. (Caps are deliberate)

Where I live, we had -- at great expense -- built 'sane-lanes' for carpoolers, buses and other uses alongside a new chunk of freeway. Needless to say, the regular roads are chock-a-block and the carpool lanes are mostly empty. Well fine. The taxpayers voted in their representatives who decided to build it that way and We The People are entitled to a few screwups now and then. Not a huge deal. Nobody died voting to put in carpool lanes.

Well, a proposal's been floated to keep the rules for the use of the carpool lanes the same but allow for single drivers to buy passage via an electronic toll-both deal.

The reaction from the Left was fast, furious and predictable, promptly dubbing the idea as "The Lexus-lane" as if only the rich suburbanites commuting to their priveleged jobs in the center city would be the sole beneficiaries while leaving Joe Six-pack or Susie-secretary stuck in traffic, seething at the well-to-do cruising by, filled with resentment. No matter that carpools, buses and shared transit could still cruise right along, toll free.

What crap....despite endless citations of other toll-roads in places like NJ, TX, VA which show plenty of people willingly pay to drive, the Left's attempt to position the idea as a sop to the rich continues to dominate the dialog.
Now, we have the investment to install the toll collection equipment (and, I believe, try to make money from an under-used public asset) is cited as "stealing money from the _____" (fill in the blanks: "the children", "the schools", "the elderly"," the homeless", "the minorities / people of color" , the "disadvantaged"......).

And yes, we have bike paths....some are quite nice and make sense as civil investments. I have no issue with paying for civil improvements....as long as they are presented as being a choice...

I had read somewhere that the Left is becoming the true conservatives, that nothing can change, evolve or be modified unless it conforms to a rigid, dogmatic set of rules. A religion and a highly restrictive one at that.

Anyone have a reference I could use?

To cap it all, a business associate and friend has declared she is for Kerry...mostly because she's a lifelong Democrat and scared of Dean. What a choice!

/end rant. Sorry to monopolize.

39 Glen Wishard  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 5:02:32pm

It must really suck to be a serious-minded Democrat these days. Terry McAuliffe wanted a long campaign season, and it's turned into the most painfully prolonged psychotic episode in election history.

And we're not even up to the first primary yet. Ha ha ha ...

40 XJ Nerd  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 5:04:47pm

Another member of the bike path right. I get the feeling that the left doesn't think we exist. I commute to work daily on a bike path that was built next to the rail road tracks. And on the weekends I drive a Jeep. That's right a big nasty SUV. I must be a horrible right wing environmental rapist. I mean I drive a gas guzzliing SUV, and often I'm the only person in it. Of course, when you do the math, since I commute on my bicycle, I actually consume less fuel than someone commuting 20mi each way in an ultra efficient VW Golf TDI, Toyota Prius, or anything else that gets less than 60mpg or so. But then again, I suppose those who are interested in things like math, logic and cold hard facts, are not LLL's.

41 Glen Wishard  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 5:10:14pm

zulubaby -

Maher is a good friend of Ted Rall. In fact, he's probably poor demented Ted's only friend.

In this manner, God hath seen fit to punish them both.

42 Frank IBC  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 5:10:23pm

Car-pool lanes are not just idiotic, but dangerous in at least one case.

In Northern Virginia, I-66 was "widened" to allow for HOV lanes in each direction (far left lanes). The reason I have "widened" in "'scare' 'quotes'", is that they did not actually widen the roadway, they just "hardened" the existing shoulders, and use them as "temporary" lanes during rush hours. The catch here is that the signs and signals that indicate when lanes are available and when they are not are very confusing. And with no shoulder, cars that can't make it to the small, scattered, "emergency pull-offs", sit right in the traffic, waiting to be hit.

And this has happened too many times to count, and with fatal results a couple dozen times in the past decade.

43 Melissa  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 5:18:22pm

I, too, am a right-wing cyclist and was worried Charles might take offense at this Steyn column. Keep saying to yourself it's only a metaphor, it's only a metaphor....and call off the jihad, for Allah's sake. I can't stand to see two of my favorites at odds.

44 zulubaby  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 5:26:08pm

Glen Wishard (#41)

In this manner, God hath seen fit to punish them both.

LOL. They deserve each other.

45 Jakester  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 5:38:18pm

Right on Charles, usually I agree with Steyn, but if you're against bike paths and x-country skiing on political grounds, then what are you left with? A bunch of fat, energy consuming, diabetis prone conservatives who never go anywhere without their gargantuan SUV, ATV, or snowmobile. Not every bobo/hippy/progressive concept is heinous. Does America have to be a hugh suburban strip of box stores behind 1/4 mile parking lots, full of chain restaurants and junk food merchants trying to make you fat?

46 speedster1  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 5:40:17pm

I can't believe that I'm the first (only?) one to mention that Charles should really issue a flat-tire-wa against Steyn.

(Maybe there's a good reason for that)

47 Joel  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 6:04:24pm

I posted this on another thread jsut to remind you that out there there are morons.

Way OT - Major Barf Alert read this at the peril of losing your dinner
Ellen Ratner is an major league freaking moron! - "Syria"

48 Joel  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 6:05:48pm

Sorry no link. Here it is, you've been warned.

Syria

49 lewy14  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 6:21:13pm

Steyn isn't the first or last to conflate cycling with leftist politics. Steyn's a smart and funnny guy and most often right on the money, but there are real consequences to ranting against bikers.

I've been honked at, yelled at, cursed, threatened, run off the road, and physically attacked for the offense of wearing lycra and riding on the public roads. Not a month goes by when I'm not the object of some frothing idiot's hostility. My experience is pretty average and I'm pretty fed up with it.

Next time you see a cyclist, and you feel like he doesn't belong, that he looks funny, that he's "not one of us", that he's probably a lefty loon, that he has no right to exist, that he's in your way, that maybe you need to send him a message, teach him a lesson - think again.

50 Gordon  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 6:57:47pm

Steyn is typical of the conondrum that hawks on foreign policy face with right wing idiocy on the domestic front (like Charles - and me). His anti-bike path mentality, his slamming of a community like Burlington VT (which besides being an icebox in winter, is a great place to live, I've been told), show the problem with electing right-wingers to protect us abroad while destroying us at home.

51 Big Dan  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 7:02:11pm

Re #45

Right on Charles, usually I agree with Steyn, but if you're against bike paths and x-country skiing on political grounds, then what are you left with?

You can be against bike paths on grounds other than political. Biking itself is good exercise, cheap per outing, out of doors in the fresh air. Disregard that granola-heads use it as a state-sponsored religion.

Bike paths are only 'safe' if they never cross a road. Because that is where the bikes zip out into traffic pell-mell, as if they were bullet-proof.

I am against even special bike lanes on a road. Just pave a wide enough shoulder and give me 3 feet of clearance, and I'll ride my bike and follow the rules of the road. Bike lanes also frequently force riding too close to parked cars so that bikers can get doored if one opens up suddenly.

52 slimedog  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 7:08:52pm

Geez, bikers, it's a metaphor! Steyn himself said

Unlike Howlin' Howard and the Burlington Episcopalians, I'm agnostic on the merits of bike paths.

We're slowly getting bike-friendly in San Antonio (lots of bad streets and bad drivers, but bike lanes on all new thoroughfares) and most of our cyclists look tough, not funny. Of course, lots are GIs, and if you harass them, they might kick your ass. I only ride occasionally, but I'd enjoy the extra exercise myself.

BUT, lewy14, if you have a spare tire, take pity on the rest of us and skip the yellow lycra. It does make your butt look big.

53 Lizardoid Minion #32603  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 7:10:30pm

I'm happy to co-exist with cyclists as long as they don't come up behind me on the footpath at high speed. I don't appreciate that much at all. (Also, it's illegal for adults to do that here.)

54 zulubaby  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 7:37:22pm

Gordon (#50)

Steyn is typical of the conondrum that hawks on foreign policy face with right wing idiocy on the domestic front (like Charles - and me).

Say what?

55 Frank IBC, Abu Kranulah  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 7:43:23pm

Those of you who from time to time experience "cognitive dissonance" between your political views and your lifestyle will definitely appreciate the following article by Rod Dreher of The National Review

Birkenstocked Burkeans

in which he explores the phenomenon of "Granola Conservatives".

56 Frank IBC, Abu Kranulah  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 7:50:17pm

#54 Zulubaby -

Er, maybe he's thinking of Roger and Me?

Gordon -

Steyn...show[s] the problem with electing right-wingers to protect us abroad while destroying us at home.

Uh, maybe the saffrole in my IBC Root Beer has been causing memory problems, but can you refresh my memory as to which office Mr. Steyn has been elected?

Burlington VT...an icebox in winter, is a great place to live, I've been told.

And how many months out of the year is it actually a "great place to live"?

57 lewy14  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 7:56:50pm

#52 slimedog,

LOL, I own a bunch of yellow lycra, bright red team shorts, and a yellow/orange/red skinsuit, and no, my butt doesn't look too big in any of them. Maybe has something to do with my blue and yellow state champion's jersey (Oregon)...

58 Mr Pol  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 8:10:15pm

Charles,

I suggest you visit Paris and have a look at the bike paths put in place by the left. Their goal is not to accomodate bikes, but to punish car users. So they have been put in place where bikes were in relative safety before, to the right of the new bus lanes, in such a way that they are unsafe from buses, who now routinely knock down cyclists with their mirror... At the same time the number and width of car lanes has been reduced to accomodate that bus lane and bike path, so formerly safe roads are now unsafe for bikes. But they achieved their goals, car transit times have increased by 25%

A one week visit and you, too, will loathe the Bike-Path Left.

59 Gordon  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 8:25:55pm

#58: Mr. Pol: the problem is that you are not describing bike paths, you are describing bike lanes. No sane person other than a hardened bicycle fiend feels safe using bike lanes, and as a result there aren't many bicyclists, which means people complain about paying money for bike lanes and paths, and around in a vicious circle.

We need more bike paths - separated bicycle facilities for bicyclists. Where they cross a road put a bike stop sign in (and a car one too) - if bicyclists ignore them, that's their problem (and injury/death).

It can even be done in dense cities. Charles home town, Los Angeles, has some great bike paths which follow the beach, or various drainage channels that used to be creeks like the Ballona path. A few streets in a dense city like Paris could even be closed off for exclusive bicycle use (with perhaps one lane for cars so people can get to their garages and for lorry deliveries), and then convert the silly bike lanes you describe back for automobiles.

But people like Steyn don't want any bike lanes. They want us all to be driving hopped-up souped-up SUV's.

60 Frank IBC, Abu Kranulah  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 8:42:09pm

#59 Gordon -

Been Kayaking Down the LA River lately?

A few streets in a dense city like Paris could even be closed off for exclusive bicycle use

Lots o' luck convincing the citizens of Paris on that. This should be fun to watch.

But people like Steyn don't want any bike lanes. They want us all to be driving hopped-up souped-up SUV's.

Do you have any evidence of Mr. Steyn's automotive preferences, by chance?

{s crickets}

61 zulubaby  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 8:44:18pm

Gordon dumbs down LGF.

62 Frank IBC, Abu Kranulah  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 8:45:43pm

They want us all to be driving hopped-up souped-up SUV's.

They don't even care what their words mean any more. They just like the way they SOUND.

Polly Wanna Cwackah???

Bwawk!! Bwawk!!

63 zulubaby  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 8:48:11pm

Frank IBC, LOL!!

64 Kirk Parker  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 9:10:03pm

> Maher ... said that he didn't think Bush understood 'Arab pride'!

This is patently false. Bush does understand Arab pride, so he also knows the value of humiliation in that regard.

65 ploome  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 9:10:16pm

62 Frank IBC, Abu Kranulah

BWWWAHAHAHAHAH

66 zulubaby  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 9:13:26pm

Frank IBC, you have us in stitches!

67 DCCLXX  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 9:14:43pm

The key to understanding Howard Dean and the danger he poses is contained in his reaction to his own brothers' murder by Left-wing insurgents in Laos in 1974. Instead of drawing the correct conclusions regarding "Left" utopias and "Socialist brotherhood" claptrap, he decided that he would "keep the faith" with his murdered, idealistic young brother who died before he could form a truly mature political philosophy. Dean has inherited his brothers' stillborn worldview and carry's that torch as a kind of tribute to his dead sibling.
This irresponsible, tunnel vision on Dean's part shows that he is willing to abrogate independant thinking and will prove to be knee-jerk leader if given the chance to wield power.

68 ronnie schreiber  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 9:53:57pm

Charles,

Here's another non-lefty cyclist checking in. I'm pretty sure that if you surveyed serious cyclists, the ones who ride daily or commute, you'd find very little sympathy for the 'critical mass' idiots. It's rectal orifices like them that piss off drivers who then take out on us. A couple of years ago, a writer for one of the bike magazines decided to check out one of the Friday afternoon critical mass rides and was not impressed. The critical mass folks were not very accepting. It seems that the people that claim to encourage bikes as transportation don't like lycra (not grungy enough, I suppose) or high zoot bikes. If you want to fit in with the critical mass folks, leave your Merlin, Seven or Litespeed at home, put on a pair of baggy shorts, some sandals and borrow your neighbors 40 lb. Huffy.

The stereotype of lefty cyclists is sort of accurate. Rodale press, that publishes Bicycling magazine is very liberal. A few years ago they sponsored a bike tour of Vietnam and the article on the tour was filled with lefty cant (Vietnamese deformed by Agent Orange etc.).A lot of bikies can be herbal granolists, and there is way too much politics within the cycling community. I remember seeing a letter to the editor of Velonews from a female cyclist complaining about an advertisement that had appeared in the magazine from company that had made a saddle specifically designed for men. She was upset that a company made male specific saddles and accused the company and the magazine of sexism. What's funny about this is that there were female specific saddles for years. Heck, there's a bike company, Terry, that makes bicycles specifically designed for the geometry of women's bodies.

Fortunately, the bike shop where I hung out when I got into cycling (no longer in business), was run by folks who were into bikes, not politics.

BTW, I once did some calculations and because of increased respiration, a human on a bicycle may be putting out as much CO2 per mile as an automobile. Add that to the impact of mining and manufacturing the metals that are used for the bike (Aluminum production requires enormous amounts of electricity) and bicycles may not be as green as people think.

The biggest obstacle to people riding to work is not the lack of bike paths or bike lanes. The biggest obstacle is a lack of shower facilities so you can wash off the sweat when you get to work.

What kind of bikes do you folks ride? Just remember, real bicycles have skinny tires and go real fast on pavement. Mountain bikes are fun, but most competitive mountain bikers even do the majority of their training on the road.

Litespeed Catalyst 51 cm, Rock Shox Ruby road suspension fork, Campy components (a mix of Athena, Veloce and Record), Velocity wheels.

FWIW, it looks like French cycling companies have attitudes that are very, well, French. Before I got the Velocity rims, I was riding on a high end Mavic rear wheel that had straight pull spokes, hit a bump and destroyed the wheel when a spoke pulled the ferrule right out of the rim. When I called Mavic about the warrantee, this was about $300 worth of wheel, they asked me what my weight was. I told them my riding weight was 190-200 lbs and their response was that I was "too fat to ride on that wheel" and they refused to cover it under warrantee or otherwise try to make me happy. When I told them that there was no sticker on the wheel indicating a maximum rider weight, they said I should have known not to ride a racing wheel on city street with my weight. When I told this to the dealer who sold me the wheel, he told me that Mavic's policy was to routinely reject warrantee claims and that he had about $10,000 in warrantee claims that Mavic would not cover. Of course, Mavic is the company that sold an electronic rear derailleur for $600 and when it turned out to have some serious reliability problems, they refused to do anything for the people who had bought them.

69 ronnie schreiber  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 9:57:10pm

Charles,

Maybe we can get some jerseys imprinted with the logo "keep to the right".

70 ESTEBAN  Wed, Dec 17, 2003 10:51:59pm

veebee #23

The Bay Bridge is more like 5 miles long. What you were reading about was a 2 mile long replacement span for the old bridge from YBI to the toll booth area on the Oakland side.

Nice subsidy for the always important bike vote. Could probably buy new bikes for eveyone in the Bay Area for what it's going to cost.

BART was wonderful too. Tore up the City for six or seven years, came in at 3X budget and then folks realized they still had to drive to the station where, of course, there was insufficient parking.

Nineteenth century technology (trains) made worse by patterns of settlement (horizontal living) dictated by automobile.

How about a cross Bay channel dedicated to gay, non-smoking, pacifist, left-handed wind surfing commuters?

Will the bikers pay there share of the cost for this undertaking or get a pass because of their environmental purity?

71 HA  Thu, Dec 18, 2003 1:40:24am

KPOM #25,

Wow. That was disturbing. Check out the "disclaimer" at the end:

"The names listed here were aquired from legal sources in the federal government, and are printed here only to inform people of the political fuding system, and not to support any illegal actions such as harassment, vandalism of businesses, homes, cars, lawns, etc, theft of property from business sites, harassing phone calls and letters, blocing the entrance to these businesses or any other illegal activity. I am not responsible for the use this list is put to, as it is a federal open record."

These people are openly calling for vandalism and harassment of people for supporting politicians of their choice. And they say the right is fascist.

This is worthy of front page treatment. Charles?

72 Döbeln  Thu, Dec 18, 2003 2:09:19am

It should be pointed out that Steyn isn't going after anyone who likes to ride a bike - only the ones who go ballistic over bike paths, but feel nothing when confronted with anti-civilizational evil. And that's a good point, regardless of what you think of bike paths.

(This coming from a non-car-owner who bikes and uses public transport.) =P

/ Döbeln

-Stabil som fan!

73 Engineer  Thu, Dec 18, 2003 2:45:13am

#35 Frank IBC

Sorry, I wrote that last night after a bad day at work.

However, I do get pissed at bikers blocking traffic on a 45 mph road during rush hour. Not to mention how dangerous that is for everybody.

74 Baldy  Thu, Dec 18, 2003 2:45:51am

#25 KPOM - That really is disturbing. The lists are going to be used to harass those donors, no matter what disclaimer says.

75 Malik al-Mulook  Thu, Dec 18, 2003 3:18:38am

I read this piece on the train late last night. "Bike Path Left" had me in shambles. After I read it the two intoxicated women next to me asked if they could read it. After they were done we had some good times ripping into Howard Dean.

I like Steyn.

76 Frank IBC, Abu Kranulah  Thu, Dec 18, 2003 3:30:44am

Dobeln -

Good point - it's like Dennis Prager's point about liberals being more concerned about global warming and second-hand cigarette smoke, than evil.

Engineer -

S'OK - I drive a lot more than I bike, and I realize that yes, some (maybe even "many") bikers are idiots.

77 Yehudit  Thu, Dec 18, 2003 3:49:21am

I made a post about the Portland Indymedia harassment attempt.

78 Big Ern  Thu, Dec 18, 2003 6:54:49am

Does this make them Cyclopaths?

:-)

79 Psychobarb  Thu, Dec 18, 2003 7:02:09am

#38

You made the comment that leftists are becoming the "true conservatives." What you may mean is reactionary, because many of the people Steyn describes, and I am related to a few, refuse to move along and are stuck in a "I hate Nixon/war/school vouchers, love Roosevelt, am pro-civil-women-abortion rights, save the whales/environment/public education, etc" time warp.

Their refusal to move along makes them reactionary, they just react to anything not on their list of acceptables. There is not a lot of indepenend thought encouraged.

The question is, when does this thinking veer into fascism? Fascism, as I understand it, is when governments adopt group-think and make laws they presume are "good for everyone."

Europeans, and the EU is a perfect example, have a penchant for fascist thinking. Their misguided belief that all Europeans will come together in harmony is a joke. They do not accept racial and ethnic divisions and war, these are very, very bad and need to be avoided at all costs. The truth is we cannot control ethnic and racial divisions, and even, the lust for power, though we should want to control hate speech and violence toward ethnic groups and put controls on government power.

Europe has it all backwards, but, hey, what else is new?
The problem is, actually it's an embarrassment, is that the American left is totally enamored of Europeans because they have good coffee and public transit. As I've said before, Europe is morally bankrupt, nothing more than an historical Disneyland with great food and nice old buildings.

80 DR  Thu, Dec 18, 2003 7:05:04am

mmmm...Fat Tire. Thanks a lot Charles, it's only 9:00 AM and I'm thirsty.

Re: the cycling on designated paths as opposed to cycling in traffic: I agree, urban bike paths are becoming dangerously over-crowded. I'm happy to ride in traffic as long as you don't insist I pretend I'm a car. If I followed the "rules of the road" as they apply to motor-vehicles I'd get squashed like a bug.

81 Gordon  Thu, Dec 18, 2003 7:44:16am

#80 DR: Bike paths may be dangerously overcrowded because people actually use them, as opposed to putting their lives in danger (whether they behave like a car or not) in a bike lane on the street.

The answer is more bike paths. When auto traffic becomes congested, the answer is more roads - why not apply the same logic to bicycle pathways?

82 Frank IBC, Abu Kranulah  Thu, Dec 18, 2003 7:55:12am

Gordon -

Good point. Now why can't you make this much sense on other issues?

83 EW1(SG)  Thu, Dec 18, 2003 8:06:27am

DamnDamnDamn!!! One of Lileks Bleats described his listening to a caller from Eugene, Oregon (The National Hippy Preserve) to an NPR radio show whose answer to terrorism was teaching those poor, humiliates masses to build bicycles. It was fabulous, and I can't find it. :-( And I'm with ScottM: red blooded right wing cyclists play in traffic! I commuted for years in The National Hippy Preserve, across the Puget Sound and through Seattle (a haven for loony lefties to young to join the hippies in Eugene,) Portland, Oregon (granola central,) and from Terminal Island to Huntington Beach in SoCal. Only place I couldn't outrun traffic was that long straight stretch through Seal Beach Weapons Station. (Well, and on the ferry from Btown to Seattle: but at least there I could ride rings around 'em :)

84 DR  Thu, Dec 18, 2003 8:22:07am

#81 Gordon

More bike paths makes perfect sense in suburban areas but in most dense cities there is no room to create more bike paths. Bike lanes, IMO, are not the answer because they offer a false sense of security and they usually lead you right into the path of people in parked cars who are oblivious to cycle traffic as they open their car doors. My point is that it's perfectly safe to ride on the street if you keep your wits about you.

85 Glen Wishard  Thu, Dec 18, 2003 8:39:46am

My home town has many scenic bike paths, AND a bronze statue of Ronald Reagan on main street.

Also, you can buy a gun two doors down from where you get organic food. It's like Utopia.

86 EW1(SG)  Thu, Dec 18, 2003 10:15:44am

#83 EW1--Reason I couldn't find it is because it was a Screed not a Bleat. I recalled some of the details incorrectly, but its an absolutely hilarious look at the bike path left. Peace school. Feh.

87 GoesTo11  Thu, Dec 18, 2003 11:27:41am

#26 Donna V

Bobos in Paradise...Great book. I'd love to see Brooks do a revision with some analysis of the post-9/11 political climate. The Bobos are exactly whom I think of whenever Dean spouts off.

88 Gordon  Thu, Dec 18, 2003 12:23:50pm

#82 Frank: Maybe I do, but you just haven't realized it yet...

89 Frank IBC, Abu Kranulah  Thu, Dec 18, 2003 7:22:08pm

Gordon -

Sorry, my second sentence in #82 was unnecessary. I'll blame it on the joyous Christmas spirit. ;)

Glen Wishard -

Leavenworth, Kansas has a combination coffee house/bikeshop. A nice cozy place for Granolas of all over persuasions. (Unfortunately I can't remember the name.)

Not right next door, but less than 30 miles away, one can walk into a convenience store where ammo is right next to the Milky Ways. A New Yorker friend (NOT a gunophobe) was quite impressed!

To illustrate my eclectic tastes, I frequently plan a bike ride so that it ends at a "Popeye's". My friends tease me no end - "after a bike ride, you'd want to eat something HEALTHY, wouldn't you?"

90 Bourgeois Reactionary  Tue, Dec 30, 2003 5:13:27pm

I'm another right-wing cyclist - Specialized. I find that mountain bikes are best for cities. I was car-free in DC for 3 years and loved it (rode Metro, walked, biked, cabbed, and occasionally limoed). My only limitation was not getting to Hooters in Fairfax often enough.

Frank IBC:
[Link: www.railtrails.org...]


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