Gosh, what a surprise. They woudn't do that.

Well, I guess that explains why the investigation hasn't been going too well... Ridiculous!

Now that Osaddomy is out of the way, let the REAL war begin.

This plea is, unfortunately, going to be swept under the rug like so many others. We wouldn't want to be accused of inciting anything with these fine, upstanding, and trustworthy partners in peace. Fucking criminals. Death and deception is in the fiber of their being.

I actually miss the old days when criminals could be roughed up a bit. Today you have to give them tea and cookies or they sue. Imagine today's criminals riding into an old pioneer town and pulling this shit. Progress is going to be our downfall when criminals use our laws to get away with their crimes.

OT -- I know it's been posted before, but in case you missed it.

Saddam Hussein’s Loyalists Infiltrated U.S. Operations in Iraq

Makes me wonder how this moved through the chain of approval for Shabak on the US side. Was it through the State Dept, Secret Service, etc?

LEt's Roll... something like that crossed my mind last week with the news of how most of the newly trained Iraqi army guys quit in droves. Seems to me forming an army should be last on the list. Build the infrastructure and when all is secure and ready to go... then train them after running checks. Stupid stupid stupid.

I wonder whether this is considered newsworthy by NYTimes ...

We were never prepared fot taqqiyah. Part of Islam.

One of the terror regimes simply has to follow Afghanistan and Iraq into the shitter by July 2004 or so. Syria and Iran are the obvious choices, but really-here's my imagination at work.

GIANT ROBOTS. Yes, giant robots.

Ok, but lets be realistic. First we could help Israel finish their wall, which would be gateless and protected by a massive minefield on the palestinian side, as well as the anti-katusha laser thingy and patriot batteries.

Then-- you all realize Haim Saban and Shuky Levy created the Power Rangers, right? Ok. So we build these gigantic colorful Megazord robot guys and we recruit 5 plucky teens to pilot them. Like one robot could be the Menorah-Zord or something, and one could be the Torah-Zord.. and one robot sort of looks like a gleaming metal rabbi, and he has these massive nunchuks that I swear to G_d-- shaped like two L'Chaim's connected by a chain. The other two could be like Bagel-Bot and Shiksa Girlfriend Bot, and that one's pilot would be an ultra hottie.

I do love the shiksas. Ahem.

But yeah- AND you could make it self-funding by filming the entire thing day to day. I'd give it a catchy title like "Thunder-Jew Rangers" and have it on Saturday mornings.

What the hell is going on? Why is the US allowing the Palestinian thugs to investigate the murders of Americans!? The PA is treacherous, there is no end to their deceit.

#11 PeterS

"Sony's Humanoid Robot Learns How to Jog"

dance

Soon your fantasy will be real. Unless the Isalmozoids prevail.

OT but funny: Tariq Aziz Stops Calling Son Saddam.

CAIRO, Egypt - Former Iraqi Deputy Prime Minister Tariq Aziz has started calling his youngest son — named Saddam after Iraq (news - web sites)'s ousted leader — by the name Zuhair instead, according to letters obtained by the London-based Arabic daily Asharq Al-Awsat. . . .

Heh.

Today, Robert Spencer's "Jihad Watch" site, posts an Orange-County Register article on suicide massacres in Israel.

[Link: www.jihadwatch.org...]

Haganah.org:
Aaron, note the following "culture of murder" website. Please have a go at them:

[Link: strike-free.net...]

OT:

Lawrence Solum's website has link to Prof. Volokh's hot paper on "Crime Facilitating Speech." No, you don't have to be an attorney in order to understand it:

[Link: www.yale.edu...]

Solum also posts salient comment on Padilla v Rumsfeld:

[Link: lsolum.blogspot.com...]

OT
evariste or another of his expertise maybe you can help me i got in a long dragout argument/discussion about the islamic mindset with a good friend i tried to explain how the culture is so poisoned that there is no choice but to resist and fight tooth and nail i am having trouble explaining why we are where we are in world politics how people in the ME do not have a choice how unlike here in the US do not have a choice in religous or political thought. can you or someone else that have been through things that as average americans can be explained in a simple way email me through charles's email system a few links to help me to simplify things to easily explain. its kinda hard after a few beers to discuss some of these things to the novice/uninformed. i hate to be looked at like a mcarthy like chicken little

thanks

OT:

Euro Vichy-Reich mouthpieces agitate against capital punishment on conviction of Saddam Hussein:

[Link: www.euobserver.com...]

EUROS: YOU DON'T MATTER!

The only president the frogs have any right to protest his execution is Chirac, although I don't know why they'd choose do that.

Ashcroft doesn't have time for this. He needs his resources to persecute medical marijuana users and bong sellers.

hold on .. perpetrators doing the investigating?

one second .. i must adjust my moral compass .. its pointing in MY direction.

The fact that Abu Shabak was a terrorist and probably behind this particular bombing was published by Pakistan Today on June 23, 2003 - note that this is not an Israeli or Jewish source. The US accepted to have a known terrorist investigate a terrorist attack. I guess the Sauds are happy.

Unbelievable. Oh wait, no it's not actually. Thats a ruthless story, but I think America is getting the picture finally.

www.nicejewishboy.net

Jimmytheclaw #17:

The Bukhari Hadith is the second most significant text to muslim savages. Try sections #52-3 for an understanding of their concept of sacred aggression:

[Link: www.usc.edu...]

ISLAM IS TERROR; MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS

Why's everyone getting so excited about the murders of a few Americans?

Don't you know the Jordyptians have the right to defend themselves against aggression by planting roadside bombs?

Don't bother Ashcroft with your petty problems.

Don't you know there are people importing deadly bongs into Pennsylvania all the way from the Islamic Republic of California?

Get your priorities straight and trust in Dahlan to bring the perpetrators to justice! Nobody knows what's going on in Gaza better than Mohammed! ;-)

The PLO is investigating a PLO attack on the US, an investigation supported by the US. The lead investigator, investigating a roadside bombing, is a terrorist famed for roadside bombings.

This is beyond absurd.

WOTMA.

Report: Europe Busts Iraq Terror Network

MILAN, Italy — Authorities in Europe have shut down a network that recruited at least 200 Islamic militants (search) to carry out attacks on U.S.-led forces in Iraq, Italian investigators told The Associated Press.

The volunteers were drawn from Muslim youths living on the fringes of society in Western Europe, with loose connections to Usama bin Laden's Al Qaeda (search) and Ansar al-Islam (search), a militant group in northern Iraq.

One recruit from Italy may have been involved in a rocket attack on the Al-Rasheed Hotel in Baghdad in October, when the U.S. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz (search) was staying there, officials told AP.

There are also suspicions that some of the Muslim militants have been involved in homicide attacks in Iraq, although there was no hard evidence, one senior Italian official involved in the investigation told AP, speaking on condition of anonymity.

An intelligence report, for example, said recruits from Europe may have been involved in the August bombing of the United Nations headquarters in Baghdad that killed 22 people, including the top U.N. envoy, Sergio Vieira de Mello, officials said. But that report apparently has not been corroborated.

CNN calls Ba'athist/jihadi terrorists 'rebels'.

Note to media: this isn't Star Wars.

OT to Canadian LGFers:

Did anyone else catch this morning's Commentary on CBC Radio? It was by someone from Harvard talking about the Geneva document. Her name was something like Andrea Henderson--it was a mix of slant and downright lies. "The only nay-sayer was Sharon." "Arafat called it a courageous document" "And the thorniest issue of all--Palestinian refugees" [no mention AT ALL of Palestinian attacks on Israeli civilians, but "the ink was barely dry on the paper when Sharon ordered an incursion into the West Bank that killed xx Palestinians and left yy injured"]

I'm pretty sure she's been on before. Anyone know anything about her?

29 colt

This coming from our bastion of truth and honest reporting, the same network, which has openly admitted bribery, misrepresenting and purposely distorting news at the direction of Saddam’s propagandists to be admitted and remain in Iraq?

when they start gettin their a$$ shot off by the 'rebels' you think they'll still be called 'rebels'?

"Reached for comment, officials at the State Department and the White House put their fingers in their ears and started screaming 'LA LA LA LA LA.'"

OT, but from the "I'm sure they didn't mean it like that department" ---

"If either of the two [Madonna or Michael Jackson] is the logical heir to Marilyn Monroe, it is clearly Michael Jackson, who is the more bruised and authentically vulnerable of the two...Not only is he black and white, male and female, but also young and old, hip and square, the crotch-grabbing self-appointed guardian of the world's children. "-- MacNeil-Lehrer NewsHour essayist Anne Taylor Fleming, April 7, 1993.

#12 zulubaby
#27 Colt
All of this makes me wonder if we want to catch the perps. It seems when Americans are killed in Israel our gov't hardly notice.

#31 abu-Hoo-Hoo

when they start gettin their a$$ shot off by the 'rebels' you think they'll still be called 'rebels'?

Nah. They'll call it friendly fire ;-)

#34 Baldy

Have you read Caroline Glick's latest piece? The US is negotiating with the Palestinian terrorists.

It seems when Americans are killed in Israel our gov't hardly notice.

Nope, though they hardly kick up a fuss when Israelis are killed, either.

Perhaps abu Shabak will arrest himself? Round up the usual suspects!

I just sent some Hannukah donuts to a platoon of the IDF.

#35 Colt

I hope Gordon reads Caroline Glick's article.

"Egypt is at peace with Israel" my ass.

Last week, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice, Vice President Dick Cheney, and CIA Director George Tenet all reportedly met with Egyptian intelligence chief Gen. Omar Suleiman.

During the meetings, Suleiman reportedly demanded that the Bush administration provide guarantees to Palestinian terrorist organizations in exchange for a temporary cessation of terrorist attacks inside Israel's pre-'67 borders.

Specifically, he demanded that the US pressure Israel to force IDF redeployment outside areas transferred to the PLO in the Oslo Accords and to end Israeli military action against Palestinian terrorist chiefs, their operatives, and their terrorist infrastructures.

Upon his return to Cairo, Suleiman dispatched his emissaries to Gaza to meet with the commanders of the official PA security services, Fatah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, the PFLP, the DFLP, and the Iraqi Baathist Arab Liberation Front. There they told the terror chiefs that Suleiman had received such guarantees from Washington.

How can the US deter terrorism when it is actively involved in the rapid establishment of a terrorist state? How long will the image of Saddam Hussein's cowardice work to dispel the jihadist belief that the US is a paper tiger when the US is undermining its own strategic posture by genuflecting to the Palestinian terrorist agenda?

I give up. In defiance of all his fine speeches, Bush's actions are nonsensical. His moral compass has gone crazy. I will either sit out '04 or vote for whoever the dhimmicrats nominate. What's the point in delaying the inevitable?

It occurs to me that President Bush really doesn't pay attention to polls, that he is guided by his own vision (whatever that may be) and morality. For this he has been lauded as a refreshing contrast to Clinton. The flip-side of that, of course, is that he doesn't pay attention to anything his constituents may say or write to him. Impassioned letters and pleas fall on deaf ears.

So, yeah, America and Israel seem to be working overtime to establish a terrorist state in Samaria, Judea, and Gaza. And they'll get exactly that. Then what? Invade the new state because they harbor terrorists a la Afghanistan and Iraq? The stupidity of that boggles the mind.

Off Topic & apologies in advance>BUT...
Victor Davis Hanson is breath-taking! A must read!!!

[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]BUT

I guess I just like to say>BUT

33 V the K

whose crotch is/was he grabbing?

Can't find a link to it just yet, but I've just heard an MP (Ellwood, I think her name is) on Radio 4 talking about a member of the Muslim Association of Great Britain who praised suicide bombers at a Palestine Solidarity conference or some such.

I'll keep looking for a link, but (unsurprisingly?) I can't find it on the BBC website.

Re: my #41, I think this is who I was listening to. (I'm astonished - an anti-Idiotarian Labour MP?!)

How many Palestinian jihadis are currently fomenting trouble in Iraq? At some point you figure everyone would see that, no matter where he lays his head at night, a jihadi is a jihadi is a jihadi. The terror is transportable, and has little to do with such Western concepts as geographical borders. Yet the Palestinians have somehow managed to bamboozle the West into believing that their cause is somehow qualitatively different from the larger jihadi cause, that their desires are stricly an attempt to redress the historical wrong of divesting them of their land. Bollocks, plain and simple, and a gross misreading of historical and current reality.

Saddam Hussein’s Loyalists Infiltrated U.S. Operations in Iraq

Dec. 18— Agents for deposed Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein have penetrated the U.S. command in Iraq, ABCNEWS has learned. As a result, they have the potential to undermine U.S. authority.

Via OpinionJournal, I'm sure someone's already posted/linked it, but ...
AP: "Palestinians Expelled to Gaza Hotel Bored"

[Link: apnews.excite.com...]

whose crotch is/was he grabbing?

That's for the Santa Barbara District Attorney to figure out.

Sean II (#44),

I love those stories.

Pentagon officials with whom ABCNEWS spoke were not surprised about the infiltration. It is a common tactic that certainly happened in Vietnam, they said.

See - just like Vietnam. It's really kind of cute, they try so hard.

1.[Link: www.nationalreview.com...]

2. [Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

3.[Link: www.opinionjournal.com...]

3 great articles

Slightly OT

This morning on NPR a reporter
interviewed an Iraqi policeman
named Abu Jabbar. He is a cop by day and bad guy by night. His mother's name is Hassan I believe.

Do you think the reporter had the common sense to turn this turd in? Doubt it. Scum!

OT:

Michael Jackson becomes a Muslim!

The Australian
December 19, 2003

Jackson 'joins' Nation of Islam

MICHAEL Jackson became a member of the black group Nation of Islam on the eve of being formally charged with child molestation, the New York Post reported today.

The newspaper quoted unnamed sources as saying Jackson became a member of the black Muslim organisation led by Louis Farrakhan on Wednesday night.

"The King of Pop is restyling himself Jacko X," said the newspaper.

[Link: www.theaustralian.news.com.au...]

Wanted: Asylum in anti-America, anti-Jewish country - Western Europe.

Requirements: Welfare, health care, access to guns and explosives, open banking system, large militant Jihadist community a must.

Capabilities: terror, murder, arson, genocide, kidnapping and much more, full rap-sheet available on request.

I met her last year in new jersey. She is a very intelligent beautiful young lady that is fighting terror with the law. I spoke to her about the terror bombings in israel and asked what can i do...her reply (paraphrased) study them and learn everything you can...so that you can pre-empt them. In other words...KNOW YOUR ENEMY!!!

Andrew B.

The Israel Law Center does wonderful work - I subscribe to their email updates. They are relentless in pursuing every legal angle available to hold the Arabs to account for their crimes. Once a year they sponsor a tour for American judges and attorneys to see first-hand what the ILC is doing - I'm planning to go next year, God willing.

This is a major embarassment for the administration, which has allowed itself to be led around by the nose by these congenital liars and murderers. We continue to deceive ourselves into believing that there are Palestinians in positions of authority who have one iota of honor or trustworthiness. We continue to think that there are Palestinians we can deal with - there are none. They are all connected to the terrorist web, and all roads lead through Ramallah.

Israel has provided the U.S. time and again with proof positive of Arafat's involvement in terror, and the involvement of everyone around him, but we just keep right on fumbling, stumbling and bumbling along, and we keep right on pressuring Israel to give the Arabs what we think they want. Our stupidity must be quite a source of amusement to the Arabs.

A classic case of putting the fox in charge of the henhouse.

#37 Thom

It occurs to me that President Bush really doesn't pay attention to polls, that he is guided by his own vision (whatever that may be) and morality.

Bush has to appear to be taking the fight to the terrorists. Throw in the admittedly awe-inspiring language of transforming a region ruled by tyranny in to one ruled by elected governments, and it is little wonder he is so widely supported. After Vietnam, Watergate, Iran-Contra, the CIA coups and all the other dirty secrets of the Cold War, finally, some real morality. You know the 'US Armed Forces World Tour' t-shirts? It's little wonder the dates finish in 1945 and start again in 2002.

No-one liked what had to be done in the Cold War, and Bush, on appearance, is a refreshing change. A quest to set free the brutalised masses of the Middle East, to destroy the Dark Age theocrats and the tyrannical fascists who support them.

It appeals, of course it does.

I only wish it were true.

To all LGFers:

Here ya go.

RWC, good job!

#35 - Colt. Of course the US hardly notices the terror inflicted against Israelis, without mentioning the "humiliations" Israel supposedly inflicts on the terrorists. It is maddening to see my country bend over backwards to appear "fair", especially when then is no moral equivalence between the two sides. Even with our pandering to the terrorists, it does no good, they still hate us & Israel.

OK, let's wait and see who this guy turns up as the "perp". Bets on some poor bastard who is suspected of aiding the Mossad?
Here's an idea...when they hold the press conference announcing the capture of those responsible, let's just bomb the building!!!

#57 Baldy

is maddening to see my country bend over backwards to appear "fair"

I'm half-British, and as much as I loathe US policy towards Israel, it could be worse.

@53 Amy

Let me know when you're running for office. I want to be sure I live in your state or district so I can vote for you. I hope with your clear sightedness you will consider a high office, maybe President? :)

Thom (#37)

I hope Gordon reads Caroline Glick's article.

He won't. He considers Jerusalem Post a rabid right-wing publication and besides, he stubbornly refuses to let facts enter his happy place of denial.

Great post, by the way.

Colt (#59)

I'm half-British, and as much as I loathe US policy towards Israel, it could be worse.

How so?

Spoons (#32) gets it right.

#61 zulubaby

Britain actually buys the PLO line, and acts accordingly. Bush doesn't, but acts as if he does. The difference is that an election could, in theory, change American policy towards Israel, but would not in Britain.

Britain is also opposed to the fence, the airstrike on Syria, they talk to Arafat, give Iran diplomatic cover to finish the A-bomb meant for Tel Aviv, etc.

Colt (#62)

It doesn't really help that Bush, although wise to their ways, behaves as though he isn't but I see what you're saying. Look, Americans have been killed in Saudi Arabia too. Where did those investigations go? However, what makes this especially disgusting is that the "investigator" is a known terrorist, not some faceless zombie.

See Mr Pol's post #22 too.

#63 zulubaby

Exactly. WOTMA.

Colt (#64)

WOTMA.

Nice :-)

The story about the 3 Americans murdered has died quickly. Why no follow up and what has happened to the 'crack investigation' that the PA is launching?

#66 Joel

This, the PLO investigation led by the guy who probably bombed the convoy, is the crack investigation.

#59 Colt - Yes, always could be worse. Much, much worse.

quark2 #60 -

Don't hold your breath! I don't play well with others. ;)

Why isn't he dead yet?

Abdel Aziz al-Rantissi, the political leader of the militant group Hamas walks during a demonstration held in Gaza City to mark the group's 16th birthday

He's getting brave again, the coward, he's come out of hiding underground like the rat that he is. Hopefully he'll hear loud buzzing overhead shortly ...

But of course, the bombing was all the Jews fault, you know, Muslims don't believe in terrorism. That is a Zionist lie. If you want to keep spreading that lie, someone will blow up your house and kill your family

EU foreign policy chief Javier Solana warns Israel that there is no unilateral solution to conflict with Palestinians

Perhaps he has a better suggestion? The EU, like the Palestinians, know how to whine and reject and criticize but never have any suggestions themselves.

Maybe Sharon's tactic is working ...

Responding to Ariel Sharon`s `disengagement` speech, Saeb Erekat calls for swift implementation of road map

@ zulubaby:

Perhaps he [Javier Solana] has a better suggestion?

Indeed he offers an alternative: Javier Solana: Let Iran get nukes