Yay!

“in pursuit of Islamic fundamentalist ideas.” ...

The Religion of Peace speaks again.

I would like to have added to immigration forms, visa applications, etc., the following question:

"Are you now or have you ever been a Muslim?"

Questions like "Have you visited any farms in a foreign country?" are good and all, but really, first things first.

I'll be willing to bet that the Germans, despite the idiocy of their current government, have the common sense to have people undercover in the largest mosques. I'd also be willing to be that we don't.

According to the charges, the Tunisian began training the recruits, initially on the premises of the mosque. He allegedly sought chemicals to make bombs and bought mobile phones and watches with alarms to serve as timers.

What can you say about a "religion" that uses its house of "worship" as an armoury.

Of course, the debate can still be made if Islam is a religion or if Islam is a cult.

Is it my imagination, or is Charles posting these "Got another one in..." items rather more frequently these days?

OT - InstaPundit relays the information that Andrew Sullivan's blog's server has been experiencing a "meltdown", but apparently unrelated to hacking.

“Through the killing or wounding of a large number of people, the Western world was to be humiliated and the Muslim world and its values defended,” the office said in a statement

What values?

If I were an intelligence agency, I would make it clear, subtly, that all conversations inside mosques were being monitored.

#9 Roger - Why subtly? Announce it, and do it.

So what if the ACLU has kittens.

#4: papijoe

I'll be willing to bet that the Germans, despite the idiocy of their current government, have the common sense to have people undercover in the largest mosques.

This is highly probable. The report on the Saudi school in Bonn has also sharpened public attention on the issue. German authorities are watching possible Islamists very closely (due to a security law pushed through by the Kohl administration, telephone calls made by suspects can be monitored), I only hope they do so closely enough.

Btw, my gf works as a teacher, and she told me she has a new pupil called "Jihad" by first name. Reminds me a bit of the Egypt ex-general, Hitler Tantawi...

OT: Is Sean Penn seeing the light?

if i didn't know better i wd say there is a certain segment of Arabs and Muslims who appear to have a problem with the West, America and Jews. i cd be completely mistaken but i am slowly getting that impression.

I wonder if the pali bastards will start using bombs like the one on this poor woman:

Necklace bomb...

OT: As if there was the need of any further proof of the Hamas aims...

Wednesday's attack at the Erez border crossing between Israel and Gaza was the first time the Islamic militant group Hamas dispatched a female suicide bomber, and the group threatened more violence.

"She is not going to be the last (attacker) because the march of resistance will continue until the Islamic flag is raised, not only over the minarets of Jerusalem, but over the whole universe," Hamas leader Mahmoud Zahar said.

Yeah, Andrew Sullivan's site has been down all day.

It's the same pattern every where. There seems to be NOgovernments that are willing to hammer down on these people. Until they are roped in and harshly dealt with they will continue to abuse the rights of whatever country they slink into. They need to have the hell knocked out of them every time they sneeze in the wrong way. They need to be watched minutely. They have proven over and over they are not trustworthy. They are going into countries that are not muslim, with the intent to wreck havoc, kill the citizens, start wars and overthrow the governments. I truely believe they don't really believe they can or ever will control the whole world, but they can start the unraveling of civilization and cause society to collapse.
They are so filled with self hatred, that it has spilled over into causing every one on the face of the earth to live in the same filthy hate filled hopeless pits of hell they are all coming out of.

/painting islam with a broad brush

“Through the killing or wounding of a large number of people, the Western world was to be humiliated and the Muslim world and its values defended,” the office said in a statement

If all they want to do is humiliate us the could just pull down our shorts in coed gym class.

OT -- Uncrossing fingers now.

It works!

Ken (#13)

I read your post and my blood ran cold. Necklacing was Winnie Mandela's favourite trick.

re: OT: Is Sean Penn seeing the light?

It appears that every individual - regardless of political affiliation - that makes the trip to Baghdad returns with nothing but praise for our troops, and a belief that our mission there is just. More left-wingers need to make the trip...

#9 Roger L. Simon

Clear to whom? And to what end? Pardon my thick-headedness, but you appear to suggest our enemies be given a heads-up that they're being surveiled.

"I read your post and my blood ran cold. Necklacing was Winnie Mandela's favourite trick. "

Yeah, but her crew would put auto tires around the neck of someone, fill the thing with gasoline, and light it. Sick, sick, sick...

#18 Let's Roll

Unbelievably cool. Your brother must be on a wicked natural high right now.

#23   brianstien the ESS

Huge. He just called me from Pasadena to let me know that he and his team are invited to mission control tonight. Too cool.

@24 Let's Roll

Is that the big news? :)

#25 quark2GreatDane:
My question exactly.

#25   quark2GreatDane

Nope. And for the record, see this.

P.S. to quark2GreatDane:
Thanks for the idea to improve my nick. The visual effect of it wrapping to a third line was bothering me a lot.

I think, in addition to being "tenacious, loyal, big dogs in little dog package," Westies must be very anal.

OTOH, aren't all dogs anal, in a manner of speaking?

#27 Let's Roll:
Thanks for the clarification.

It must humiliating to fail to humiliate.

Lord! This google search has 60,000 links on the subject.

From one of these links:

Taliban wants Bush to be tried in Sharia Court for the humiliation of Muslims.

*snicker, snort*

#30 Ms. Andi, American Eskimo Dog

Taliban wants Bush to be tried

Wes Clark has similar concerns.

"Wes Clark has similar concerns. "

And it is humorous that now that Clark is moving up in the polls news outlets are starting to notice the inconsistincies in Clark's positions. Watching this bunch of politicians is way too fun!

#31 brianstien the ESS: Slayer of Osama bin Muskrat

I can't imagine why the General was fired from NATO. The Dems are desperate to define themselves and are failing miserably.

Ms. Andi, Ken

Did you notice the poll question on that page?

Do you think Bush committed a crime in his march to war?

Media bias? What media bias?

So...the Dems hate the West because they feel humiliated?

5 Athos

What can you say about a "religion" that uses its house of "worship" as an armoury.

Mosques are simply forts. They house arms, are well defended and conspiracies are hatched within them.
We make a major blunder in treating them as places of peaceful worship.

Then there is the Sudanese, arriving from Washington DC enroute to Duba, and arrested at Heathrow for carrying live ammunition in his pocket. He said he forgot it was there. I wonder how he got through DC's security.

16 quarkGreat Dane

It is the same pattern all over the world. Get into a non-muslim country first by begging, pleading, pretending to be harmless and obsequous in the extreme. Once in and numbers increase, start the Jihad.

@37 DP

I have such a heaviness in my chest, knowing that thousands of unnecessay deaths are going to occur because the ones who could prevent this are in denial and sticking their heads into the sand.

A couple of leader articles in the DT highlighting the strain that is being put on British society as a consequence asylum seekers, 90% of whom are Muslims.

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

The Daily Telegraph is the only major newspaper in the West which tells the truth in this WoT.

#20 Ken

It appears that every individual - regardless of political affiliation - that makes the trip to Baghdad returns with nothing but praise for our troops, and a belief that our mission there is just. More left-wingers need to make the trip...

Are you trying to take the fun out of my life? One of my major amusements is watching the left. I mean, they are sooo stupid.

Hanz ze Beeman # 11,

Take that Sean Penn story with a grain of salt. You must be a Bay Area person, 'cause that was a Chronicle exclusive. Guess who set up Penn's gig with the Chron? The infamous Medea Benjamin!
No Bay Area Peace event is complete without her, and she's a prolific letter writer to the Letters to the Editor espousing the Anti-war line. The scary part of the article is the way it hints that see has a very cozy relationship with Phil Bronstein, a Chron Puh-Bah.
She (Benjamin) organizes a media (no pun intended) event in the East Bay somewhere (Orinda or Lafayette or something) promoting a supposedly "typical" Iraqi woman, who delivered an "Iraqi women were okay before the war, and Saddam's government wasn't that bad" talk. The Chron's Deborah J. Saunders, covering the event, asked her what she did in Iraq before she left. It seems she was a Ba'ath party member, and headed some department, bureau, or agency in Saddam's government.
Afterward, Benjamin went up to Deborah Saunders and said, "don't write that she was a Ba'ath Party member and former Saddam gov't official." Is this Gall, chutzpah, a blatantly distorting propaganda thing, or what?
If Medea Benjamin organized anything, there must be an Islamonazi in the woodpile somewhere.

Bay Area Hawk (#41),

Take that Sean Penn story with a grain of salt. You must be a Bay Area person,

Actually hanz ze beeman is German, and it's funny that you should say that he should take that story "with a grain of salt" his blog is titled:Cum Grano Salis.

Cum grano salis is Latin for "with a grain of salt." :-)

Thanks for the tip, Geepers. what a seredipitous accident! Very interesting website-it's in my favorites folder now.
Hans Ze Beeman: If you're out there reading this:

"We are show room dummies! "We are show room dummies!

"Endless Europe. Endless Europe." No that's not a plug for EU.

"Trans Europe Express! Trans Europe Express!"

#33: Ms. Andi

I can't imagine why the General [Clark] was fired from NATO.

Because, as a Nato commander, he f***ed up Kosovo where now warlordism prevails. Clark was so stupid that he didn't understand that the greatest evil in the Balkans was Iranian Islamist terrorism in teamwork with European diplomacy but only saw Milosevic. He's not a military person any more, but still a personal friend of EU FM Javier Solana, and of course he'll continue to have this blindspot on Iran.

They arrest one, they try one. What's appaling is that it is never worth a big headline at home - Google News Germany has no more than a dozen hits on "Ihsan", the forename of the arrested. This is another example of classical Schröder diplomacy: Give the West some crumbs of good news as long it doesn't humiliate the Islamists too much. Distract from the fact that Saudi loyalists enjoy far more rights than Iranian dissidents:

[At his visit to Saudi Arabia in October 2003,] Schroeder said the Kingdom and Germany shared similar views on security and terrorism and added the interior ministers of Germany and Saudi Arabia will be meeting soon to find 'a way of cooperating in the fight against terrorism.'

He said there were no travel restrictions imposed on Saudis visiting Germany. The visa policy of Germany and EU countries might be affecting some countries, he admitted, but offered to look into 'this impediment,' which could hamper trade and investment.

Arab News, Oct 07, 2003: Back Abdullah's Peace Plan: Schroeder

Bay Area Hawk (#43),

hanz ze beeman is a interesting, very intelligent and well respected poster here. He acquired his screen name when he first came to LGF and saw his forays as "entering the hive" of the neocon warmongers. Only to find out that wasn't the case. He was swayed by well reasoned arguments and logical rhetoric otherwise.

So are you a Kraftwerk fan as well?

" 'Through the killing or wounding of a large number of people, the Western world was to be humiliated and the Muslim world and its values defended,' the office said in a statement."

There's that h-word again. But this time, it appears as an objective of the Islamists.

Could it be that in the world of the Islamists, humiliation is a zero-sum game: either they humiliate us by killing or wounding people, or else they feel humiliated?

If that is so, then the Euro complaint that we should save the Islamists from feeling humiliated is just plain wrong-headed. Humiliation is just what they should be getting. It's better that we should live than they should avoid humiliation.

#46 Geepers,

Yes, I'm a Kraftwerk fan. The night I saw your post, I had just come back from werk, where I sometimes bring my own CD's so I don't have to listen to KOIT (management"s favorite station), and I'd been listening to Kraftwerk. Another serendipitous coincidence. I see from Hans ze Beeman's website that he sometimes works in, what was it?-Belmont? Redwood Shores? Palo Alto? Anyway, as an occasional Bay Area resident, he ought to know enough to take the Comical WITH A GRAIN OF SALT!!!

Bwahahahaha!!

Since Pakistan is an American ally, it would appear that, as was the case with "Iran Contra", Israel is again being used as a third party for illegal arms sales, in the name of Plausible Deniability ...

Israeli goes free on bail
Man arrested at DIA in smuggling case

By Karen Abbott, Rocky Mountain News
January 13, 2004

An Israeli accused of illegally sneaking U.S.-made nuclear weapons detonators into Pakistan will be freed from federal custody on bail but will be confined to a rabbi's home in Maryland.

Denver U.S. Magistrate Judge Michael Watanabe ordered the release of Asher Karni, 50, a citizen of Israel who lives in Cape Town, South Africa, after a hearing Monday.

A rabbi arrived from Cape Town on Monday to testify that Karni is a respected member of the Jewish community there.

"I know him as a very religious and honest man," said Rabbi Menachem Popack, a U.S. citizen born in Buffalo, N.Y., who has lived in Cape Town for 28 years and has known Karni for 18 of them.

Karni's attorney, Harvey Steinberg, of Denver, also presented supporting letters from people in South Africa and in the United States. One was from the U.S.-based son-in-law of South African multimillionaire Cecil Jones, offering the $75,000 cash bail that will free Karni from federal custody.

Another letter was from a rabbi in Maryland offering to let Karni and his wife live in his home while the charge is pending against him in federal court in nearby Washington, D.C.

Watanabe ordered Karni to live with the Maryland rabbi and wear an electronic monitoring ankle bracelet to be sure he stays there.

Watanabe delayed Karni's release until Thursday to give federal prosecutors time to appeal. Prosecutors had sought to keep Karni locked up while the charge against him works its way through the legal system.

However, Prosecutor Bob Brown said he doesn't plan to appeal.

Karni was arrested around New Year's Day at Denver International Airport, when he arrived with his family for a Colorado ski vacation.

Karni is accused of conspiring to disguise the nature of scores of triggered spark gaps ordered from a New Jersey export company and allegedly destined for Pakistan.

Federal authorities said shipping documents falsified what was in the 66-item shipment of spark gaps and gave the final destination of the devices as a hospital in South Africa. Those falsehoods avoided the necessity of obtaining a special U.S. export permit, required if the devices are destined for Pakistan or some other country where the United States hopes to stem the spread of nuclear weapons, according to court documents.

Karni allegedly received the devices in South Africa and sent them on to Pakistan. Federal authorities have said he confessed to participation in the scheme when South African officers searched his Cape Town home in December.

Triggered spark gaps also can be used to break up kidney stones, but their manufacturer told federal agents that hospitals usually have only a handful of them - not the 200 ordered through the New Jersey company.