mother from hell

Sure let a baby handle a grenade. The Pali NRA at work teach responsible ownership and lawful uses of explosives.

I shit on her and mustaches of her entire family fifteen generations up the horrid tree from whence she decended.

Oh c'mon! That's a guy!
Isn't it? I mean, look at the picture.

Yeah, that's a guy. From here I can discern a 5 o'clock shadow in the first photo.

every one of those sick f***s should be euthanized

Another young jihadist motivated by "U.S. policies" I'm sure.

#3

I agree.

"Thats's a man, baby. Yeah!"

SLUT

It makes me sick that one day that sweet little face will be twisted into anger at the neighborhood car swarms.

Excuse me while I go hunt down my blood pressure meds. /sarcasm

One of the poor kids in the bottom photo looks like he’s been crying for hours.

Looks like he figured out that mommy ain’t coming back home.

Sick, sick, death-loving, Jew-hating society. Building nothing, creating nothing, living only to destroy. It's not exactly a recipe for successful nationhood. They will undoubtedly be the architects of their own destruction.

#3 #6 : re: The upper photo, my first thought was of an effeminate Jin McMahon. After all he did like headbands and camo.

Gee, a souvenir picture with his mom...
C.

Those photos are heartbreaking. Especially the top one to see the little boy smiling never suspecting that it meant he was going to lose his mother.

Have they no shame? Those children not only have to live with the fact that their mother choose to adbandon them and blow herself up but with a culture that glorifies her for doing so.

No wonder they have such hate and distorted feelings.

Notice how she practices unsafe gun handling (finger on trigger). Can't even seem to do the simple things right.

Hamas posts web-shots of Erez suicide bomber

The pictures, which appeared on the Hamas site over the weekend, show Raiyshi in camouflage dress holding an assault rifle in one hand while cradling her 3-year-old son, Obedia, in the other arm.

The boy is clutching what appears to be a mortar shell, and both mother and child wear Hamas headbands. Another picture shows her in a bedroom, gazing at Obedia and her 18-month-old daughter, Doha.

The date on the bottom photo appears to be 1-10-04 --four days before she blew herself up.

Pretty much disspells any contention that the family or her husband did not know what she was preparing to do. Someone took the bottom photo in the home. So whoever took the photo at the home knew.

Once again, the famous international news/photo agency Hamas gets a byline.

Similar, but different, from al Jazeera riding along with Iraqi "insurgents" as they attack US troops. I guess similar to the US press "embeds".

Next thing you know the Hamas PR Minister will win a Pulitzer, and Drunk Girl will become a syndicated Hamas columnist. I imagine Latuff will become the Charles M Schultz of the Hamas press.

Those children have the same expectation of growing up to be normal decent human beings as children raised by cannibalistic serial killers.

What the hell is wrong with that kid in the bottom picture!? Exposure to radiation? He looks like one of Charles Addams' creations.

What a quandry this situation delivers. Is it horrible to deny these children a mother's
love? Is it horrible to suject these kids to be brought up buy someone who will kill the mother of these children as well as anyone near hear as she does so?

#19 BH

That's the 1 yr old daughter and it looks to me like FAS.

Has anyone seen my sympathy for the Palestinians? I seem to have lost it. There is no reward for its return.

#8 MszPhit:

Not to worry, by the time that kid is old enough to blow himself up, the security wall will have long ago been completed, Israel will have unilaterally separated from these barbarians, and they will be too busy killing each other in interminable civil wars to worry about innocents.

I looked all over the web for these pictures and could not find them. I guess Charles is the only one with access to their web site :-)

It's a sick 'culture' that raises children this way. Why does the rest of the world expect Israel to make 'peace' with it?

Please froward pics to Kenneth Roth at HRW.

Ken is worried because Israel detains 17-year old members of Hamas and Islamic Jihad in the same prison cells as adult members of Hamas and Islamic Jihad.

(I'm on an anti-HRW crusade today).

#23

You forget that this 'mother' lived in Gaza where there already is a wall, and she still managed to take four Israelis with her.

The wall is not a panacea. Assuming it is ever completed.

#16 Nancy

Pretty much disspells any contention that the family or her husband did not know what she was preparing to do. Someone took the bottom photo in the home. So whoever took the photo at the home knew.

Worse than not knowing, the husband supported her doing it:
Atoning for adultery with 'martyrdom'

According to the report, based on Israeli military sources, Raiyshi's husband is a Hamas operative who urged her to carry out the suicide mission.
The Associated Press, citing Israeli security officials, reported yesterday that Raiyshi was an adulteress forced to carry out the attack to restore her family's honor.
It is not uncommon for Palestinian women accused of adultery, or of having sex before marriage, to be killed by their families trying to rid themselves of perceived disgrace.
The officials told AP on condition of anonymity that Raiyshi's illicit lover recruited her, giving her the suicide bomb belt. Palestinian security officials said her husband drove her to Erez to carry out the attack.

#24 Carl in Jerusalem

The photos are in Yahoo photos section. I don't know how to link to them though.

It is unfortunate that there doesn't seem to be any other option besides exterminating these Nazis. Eradicating German Socialism in the '40s involved killing tens of millions of people; I'm afraid eradicating Muhammed-worship today will involve the death of hundreds of millions.

Carl in Jerusalem (#24)

I looked all over the web for these pictures and could not find them. I guess Charles is the only one with access to their web site :-)

Do a Yahoo! 'News Photos' search for Hamas, or click on the photos that Charles has posted and it will take you directly to the Yahoo! web page.

Or you can do a search for Reem Raiyshi.

To the LLL, this woman is a hero:

- she is poor
- she has a gun
- she spurns her children
- she is "engaged in political resistance"

What's not to like? Heck, she could help create a publishing industry for LLL academics so they can "theorize" her transgressive existence. It's win/win!

/disgusted

What a good, warm hearted mother. Look at what she's done for her childern.

- Children are homeless due to the Israeli policy of destroying homes of suicide bombers to deter becoming a suicide bomber

- banned her father, brother and other family members from working in Israel to make money to raise the children

- made the lives of Palestinian workers trying to go into Israel wait even longer to pass through checkpoint

- forced IDF to now consider all men and all women potential threats resulting in the inevitable likelyness of a death as result of an error by a soldier no matter how delicate the IDF attempts to be.

- Targeted the children for Propaganda Machine A, B, and C in the Gaza strip for the Deathcult™.

Q: What is the warning sign over the door to the Palestinian maternity ward?

A: Danger: Live Ammunition

lol

#26 Carl in Jerusalem

... this 'mother' lived in Gaza where there already is a wall, and she still managed to take four Israelis with her... The wall is not a panacea.

This was the first 'successful' suicide bomber from Gaza in a while, and note that the four brave people she killed were soldiers guarding the border. While their lose is tragic, their deaths were not in vain, because they saved the lives of the dozens of bus-riding or restaurant-dining civilians that were doubtless her real target.

Of course while there are few suicide bombers that make it through from Gaza, there are plenty of rockets and guns, not to mention so much weed it get the police high, all thanks to another barrier that is undermined by tunnels, tunnels protected by the Rachel Corrie brigades.

As has no doubt been said before, this piece of filth can no longer reproduce.

#13 Nancy

"Those photos are heartbreaking. Especially the top one to see the little boy smiling never suspecting that it meant he was going to lose his mother."

So now Hamfist is feeling bold, releasing those photos and getting an exchange of prisoners.... Truly, there must be some special place in hell for whomever encouraged this young woman into this act of murder. As I look at this young mother, I interpret her relationship with her son as one of love---but the hate/shame was greater then her love for her children. Perhaps I am projecting my western thoughts on the scene displayed---I don't know. There just doesn't seem to be any winners in this wet sack of sh*t called the ME conflict; only pathetic losers. Almost like a traveling circus; "COMING TO A CITY NEAR YOU". It is truly a war.

#29, Law Student

Sadly agree.

Seems like the Palestidiots don't know American slang like aching for a breakin' or crusin' for a brusin'...

They be bidin' for a genocidin'.

I just finished this, and in the end, I'm not even sure it's funny. It's just very sad really.
Palestinian Vacation

I know! Let's give them a state!

[okay, somebody had to say it]

Everyone remember that this wonderful mother blew herself up in an attempt to kill innocent Israelis so that she could be one of her husband's 72 virgins in paradise when he similarly becomes a martyr.

Oh, isn't that cute, look at that little transformer toy robot in the little boy's hand! That's just darling!

Wait.

That's an RPG grenade. Not so cute, after all.

I tried showing this picture to a professor at North Carolina and he shouted me down as a racist xenophobe with a special agenda against Muslims. That's the LLL for you.

I'm just shaking with rage right now, I don't know what do, this world has gone totally insane.

#44 Gunslinger

Just slowly back away from the LLL, keep gun in holster, and go have a beer.

Barking Pumpkin (#36)

As has no doubt been said before, this piece of filth can no longer reproduce.

The only upside in this equation but definitely worth noting.

Not that it matters, but what is he a professor of?

The Gunslinger (#44)

I'm just shaking with rage right now, I don't know what do, this world has gone totally insane.

Rather be angry than be like me who gets depressed from all the insanity.

Madonna with child, rifle and RPG.

They should ahve shown a picture of her and her lover. the one she had an affair with and had to redeem her "honor."

#26 Carl in Jerusalem

She never got into Isreal. She only made it to the erez checkpoint through the humanity of the soldiers. Big mistake. The wall is a panacea and ahs already saved hudnreds of lvies.

I've noticed over the last few months that, little by little, LGF has become my MAIN source for news. Incredible! How can a non-profit, part-time blog outdo, out-report and out-investigate massive news-gathering organizations with thousands of employees? I used to wake up, turn on the computer and check out AP, CNN, the BBC, and the NYT to get up to speed on the day's events. Then I'd check out LGF and be shocked at all the astounding outrages that the mainstream media was mostly ignoring. Nowadays, I turn to LGF first, and then maybe glance at the rest to see what non-news everyone else will be discussing. How many LGF-ers are like me and come here for the day's real scoops and real news? Charles, is there perhaps a poll in this?

It was subsequently reported in JPost (now archived) that the female in question had committed adultery, and her final act was to save the family honor. The so-called decrying of her act by her husband was a red herring to cover this up as it was he who transported her to the check point.

There's a new EU Poll out. 9% of the Eurotrash doesn't like or trust Jews and 15% wish Israel didn't exist. I can't wait....

The EU Poll is worse.

The poll, by the Ipso research institute which covers nine European countries, states that 46% of those polled feel Jews are "different", and 71% call upon Israel to withdraw from the Palestinian territories.

40% of Europeans polled in Italy, France, Belgium, Austria, Spain, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Germany, and Britain believe that Jews have "a particular relationship with money."

In all the countries polled for the Italian newspaper, anti-Semitic sentiment was positively correlated with anti-Israel sentiment.

Maybe they should have asked how many think we have horns?

Carl in Jerusalem (#55)

Check out this page: The 'New Anti-Semitism' (and all the links listed too).

Today, because the weather is snowy, I have my ten-year old granddaughter, Jenny staying with me. To occupy our day, we are going through old photograph albums. Jenny keeps asking me “Who’s that?” and “When was that picture taken?” I can imagine little Obida doing the same with his friends over these posted snapshots in a few years answering, “Oh, that was Uncle Mommy. She kinda screwed up.”

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Is there some place in Gaza called MartyrShots? A ROPMA version of GlamourShots with assault rifle, mortar round, RPG etc props? The big Allah flag background for no extra cost?

#59 Sean

LOL!

I expect there are enough Hamas flags, rifles and mortar shells (for the kids, natch) in most neighbourhoods for this sort of thing to be done on the cheap :-)

#59 Sean; in fact, I recall a New York Times Magazine photo-essay spread that showed exactly such a thing. I.e., Pali photography studios that would lend their subjects weapons for posed photos. Such lovely people.

Colt,
I'm working on a photo now....

Her eyes appear already dead on the photo. Is it the strength of the propaganda bombardment or the weakness of the individual that creates such living dead persons? I am diametrically opposed to feeling anything for those monstrosities, I just wonder when it made click in their heads and the next morning, a zombie rose from the bed where (maybe) the night before a living person slept.

In case no one else has posted this, I just recieved this reply to my e-mail from Dr Jenny Tonge MP:

Dear friend

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The sheer volume of emails we have received means that, regretfully, we =
cannot respond to you individually as we would have wished.

To the many who wrote in support, thank you. Your support and good =
wishes are hugely appreciated.

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To the fewer who wrote in rage, despair or sorrow, particularly any of =
our constituents who have a right to expect a personal response: Please =
remember that to understand is not to condone. The cause of peace in =
the Middle East, upon which all our futures depend, has been put back on =
the agenda.

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Thank you for writing.

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Serena Hennessy, Head of Office to Dr Jenny Tonge

...to understand is not to condone... Huh? Well, WTF??? I guess she's been misunderstood.

FOAD

Colt

Did you see the documentary last night on German Jews and music?

Is it the strength of the propaganda bombardment or the weakness of the individual that creates such living dead persons? I am diametrically opposed to feeling anything for those monstrosities, I just wonder when it made click in their heads and the next morning, a zombie rose from the bed where (maybe) the night before a living person slept.

Sadly Hans, those living under Arafat's boot are brainwashed from childhood to become 'martyrs' and to hate and kill Jews.

For example:

"25,000 children were trained this past summer in Palestinian Authority summer camps in the use of firearms, the making of Molotov cocktails, methods and operational rehearsals for kidnapping targeted leaders, and conducting ambushes. Tragically they were indoctrinated for a new generation of war -- not for peace."

[Link: www.operationsick.com...]
 

How about this humble suggestion: In the era of the Roman Empire they took the children of subject peoples (as hostages) and raised them back in Italy to be good Roman citizens. Since these kids are now clearly from an inadequate family, I'm sure we could find someone here in America who could raise these children up right.

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#65 Henry S.

Nope, though I just listened to a BBC Radio 4 piece on the blood libel. Not that it needs to be said, but they're bastards.

Anyway, what what was the documentary like?

#66: William

Thanks. I'm aware of that, on the other hand I read a story on a German guy who is sitting in an Israeli prison for planning to become a mass murderer by blowing himself up. He used to be a little criminal, after the fast money, when he found Islam; he was so impressed by the "unity" and "stability" that he converted and radicalized at the age of 17. In a picture, he had the same eyes as this "woman": dead. Maybe they fear liberty because they are so weak, and hate it because they hate themselves.

"Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it." George Bernard Shaw

hans ze beeman (#71)

In a picture, he had the same eyes as this "woman": dead.

They all seem to have those same dead eyes, like no soul exists. It's chilling.

#71, hans,

you arent by chance talking about the same Smyrek they have now negotiated to set free?

I sure hope that guy will not be, but will go right into the next, then FRG prison.

even though he wouldnt be in there long, I suppose...

I havent read a lot about Smyrek other than what has been written now on the "deal with hizballah".

know more?

The MartyrShot(tm) online photo.

#72: zulubaby

Ugh! You're right - if there ever was a prototype pic for dead eyes, it's that of Atta.

#73: kath f.

That's him! Forgot his name. I don't know much about this guy, but he obvioulsy (IIRC) preferred remaining in an Iarael prison with ten Islamists in a cell to going to a German prison with TV, swimming pool and bowling lane (OK... maybe no bowling lane). I think Israel knows much better how to treat those people.

My link won't work...sorry.

That's "Israel prison".

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#10 Amen

#22 Amen, Hallelujah

This foul swine-bitch can no longer reproduce. I'm sure she's burning in hell. As for the children, there may be hope for them if someone can get them out of there, but unfortunately they'll probably wind up an a Hamas Orphanage where they'll be indoctrinated in suicide and jew-hating.

This is the most despicable crime there is. These people are WORSE than the Khmer Rouge, WORSE than Hitler, WORSE than Idi Amin. They are befouling themselves with the stench of genocide. Thier cause has lost all legitimacy.

# 75, hans

Ive looked at a number of articles about that "deal", but I couldnt find any clue as to whether he will be sent to a german prison or just let go.

Id hate to see him walk now, no matter if he did time in IL too.

have some concerns about that deal anyways, but wrote about that elsewhere.

#74 Sean

Try posting images on CyberTarp. There is no registration for visitors. It works fairly well.

# 80, kath,

[Link: www.spiegel.de...]

link(german) about smyrek and just how sick he actually is.

but how that reporter comes to the conclusion that smyrek is not an antisemite is a little beyond me. wanting to blow oneself to pieces and kill a bunch of israelis in the process obviously doesnt qualify as an indicator...OK....(?).

seems however he was really confused reading those remarks. not surprising when the world view is weird enough to join that death cult...

And we negotiate with this culture???

Yeah, that'll help.

# 78, baldy

yeah, that one is all over the news tonight.

guess we just have to get used to them killing each other where they go...

it is- of course- always an "honour" thing....

What would we do without The Most Merciful, the Most Compassionate and his links to some of the funniest stuff this side of the Tigris.

This guy is the next Robin Williams.

#70 Colt

The programme focused on German Jewish composers and musicians from Mendelsohn to Holocaust survivors who had performed in the camps. The two most interesting points:

Mendelsohn's father forged close ties with the Protestant community in an effort to improve German-Jewish relations and had Felix baptized, believing that by assimilating, Jews would be accepted as true, loyal Germans.

This "detente" was short-lived as Wagner published his anti-Semitic diatribe "Judaism in Music" disparaging Jewish art and calling for the Jews' annihilation.

Another sad reminder of how, through the centuries, Jews have contributed immensely to the local culture and community, going to extraordinary lengths to be accepted and... well, you know the rest.

71 hans
72 zulubaby

They all seem to have those same dead eyes, like no soul exists. It's chilling.

Junkies also have eyes like that. It's the absence of humanity.

Junkies and homocide bombers have both traded their birthright for...nothing.

#29 The Law Student

I fear you are correct. However, let's make sure the tens of millions are all muslims.

Make no mistake, they would have no problem killing tens of millions of us in a heartbeat.

#26 Carl in Jerusalem:

You are quite right, but following a unilateral separation, Israel, with the help of the security walls, could effectively close off their borders to the new Palestinian state. I believe that this, combined with the fact that such a state would immediately fall into civil war, would distract the death-cultists from targetting Israel proper for attack.

I knew Muslims didn't eat pork, but they can't eat fish without scales, either

Question:I want to know which sea animals are halal and which ones are not?

Answer:Of all sea animals only those are halal that have scales, the rest are haram except for the shrimp which is halal too.

I'm starting to wonder about Mohammad. I'm not sure he would be eligible for the country club, if you know what I mean.

Oh, and while Muslim men should avoid marrying kufr woman, cheap and sleazy one night stands are a different story

Question:What is the ruling about permanent and temporary marriage with a Christian woman? It is a matter of real urgency. Please, try to reply as soon as possible?

Answer:It is incumbent, as a measure of obligatory precaution, to avoid permanent marriage with a Christian or Jewish woman. As for temporary marriage, it is permissible and there is no objection in it.

papijoe (#87)

The difference being that junkies are only killing themselves.

85 Ed

Hello Muta'h, hello Fatwa....

I couldn't find much on Google about temporary marriage in Islam. Anyone familiar with this?

#89 Paine

Unilateral separation is what we did in Southern Lebanon. We have all seen the results of that action.

What do you propose to do with those Israeli Jews who live beyond wherever you put the fence? Leave them there? If not, how do you propose to pay for bringing them within the fence?

#92 zulubaby

The difference being that junkies are only killing themselves.

Yes. And their families don't celebrate or get paid off.

#86 Henry S.

It sounds like I missed out. Thanks.

#86: Henry S.

Just compare a composition by Wagner with one by Mendelssohn. Wagner is utterly pompous and bombastic, idealism and authority made sound, the intention is to crush thought and create strong emotions; Mendelssohn, in contrast, is much more reflective, friendly, relaxing. (I'm not a Wagner fan at all; I do believe though that Beethoven, spirit of fire, was the Feanor of all composers - there is a liveliness in his compositions that is replaced by dullness and heaviness in Wagner's work).

I believe that Nazism was a mixture of Wagnerian and Nietzschean thinking; with Nietzsche being pushed into a Wagner framework. Nietzsche used to admire Wagner initially, but later he refrained from doing so, possibly anticipating what the mixture of those ideas would imply. If one reads pure Nietzsche carefully - and not the distorted versions - it becomes clear that he was a stark opposer of German nationalism, and wrote often in praise of Jewish culture. He was himself outraged for being exploited by anti-Semites. This is not intended as an apology for Nietzsche's work, for it contains the possibility of being distorted and it comprises several disturbing world-views that have some parallels with Nazism; but I think the core of "Thus spake Zarathustra" is rather to shake up current mindsets in a Cartesian way than to establish a nationalist, race-obsessed society. It was clear that the Nazis would greatly indulge in the material Over-Man when Nietzsche, as I believe, was actually referring to something like the spiritual "Post-Man". But it's a difficult topic, and he was a nihilist, and he said war is the father of all things... well, Gnight (sorry for the rant)

Actually the woman looked pretty sad to me. Maybe I'm sentimental or superimposing human values where they might not have existed anymore, but she looked like one might expect someone under sentence of death to look during the time between sentencing and execution: frightened and sad.

For those who read Hebrew, you can find the list of prisoners to be released.

as a mother, this picture fills me with an enormous wave of sadness so strong just went into my girls rooms and gave them a sleeping- hug.how can any parent not see the trusting cute eyes of a child, and not want to do anything in their power to protect them? either this women is insane , or her choices were so awful, that in a twisted sickening way, the only way to save these children's lives was to do her heinous act... how sick is a society where mothers must face choices like this? or that a mother can be so brainwashed that her natural instinct of protecting her children over everything is destroyed? i dont know. . as an Israeli, this picture fills me with dismay, as i know there is slim chance of finding rationality in this universe of fanaticism. i would say, like the Jews in the 40 years in the desert, the old generation must pass before we will have with whom to deal with, but they perpetuate the hatred with every innocent child. sad.

hi shira!

Well, the next generation is already ruined. It will never end.

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undated???? who are they kidding...the date of the image is in the lower right hand corner...

1 - 10 - 04....

Undated my ass!!!

What the hell is wrong with the AP...are they that lazy???

Andrew B.

#100 lizzy

as a mother, this picture fills me with an enormous wave of sadness so strong just went into my girls rooms and gave them a sleeping- hug

What? You don't want to give them mortar shells and Hamas headbands? I guess you aren't oppressed enough ;-)

angela (#102)

Lovely. Another hate-fest.

Hans writes:

...on the other hand I read a story on a German guy who is sitting in an Israeli prison for planning to become a mass murderer by blowing himself up. He used to be a little criminal, after the fast money, when he found Islam; he was so impressed by the "unity" and "stability" that he converted and radicalized at the age of 17.

Well, I think here you have unearthed another root cause.
 

#90 Ed Moran

Oh you kfir you. Halal means they can eat it, haram means they can't. So they are allowed fish and shrimp. At least according to RWC (PBUH).

As I clicked to the comments on this thread, I was thinking "Now that is a mother from hell."

Then I saw the first post.

#1 bull 1/26/2004 10:25AM PST

mother from hell

I guess it is not that surprising.

I wonder what she was thinking in the second picture in which she is looking at her children. Could she be thinking that she hopes that they too will become suicide bombers one day? Could she be thinking she is making a better world for them by using her life to murder Israelis?

I must say, the wall is sounding more and more like a very good idea.

#97 hans

No apology necessary; thanks for the interesting synthesis.

I was trained as a classical percussionist and had quite a bit of exposure to Wagner, Mendelsohn, Mahler, etc. I have to admit being moved by Wagner' music (as I am by Beethoven) although it's not a problem for me to distinguish between an artist's work on the one hand and their demons on the other. But just as I may enjoy the taste of Dom Perignon, I don't have any difficulty abstaining from it as an expression of my personal principles. Given what I now know of Wagner's contribution to the rise of anti-Semitism and German nationalism, I wouldn't spend a penny or a moment of my time sitting through a Wagnerian opera.

WRT Nietzsche, I've read only Beyond Good and Evil but anyone who came up with "That which does not kill me, makes me stronger" can't be all bad :)

# 108 Lawrence Schmerel

The wall isn't enough. Reoccupation and de-Nazification is the only way to deal with these people. And for those who won't live in peace, there's always transfer.

The BBC website has a nice story about a man brought up in the West Bank and taught to hate Jews, but who learned the truth about Islam while in America:

"Walid's convictions led him to renounce violence and convert to Christianity but it was at a price: his family disowned him and his own brother threatened to kill him for abandoning Islam.

His disappointment with his own family's ideology and remorse at the folly of his youth strengthened Walid's resolve to speak out against militancy as a way of solving the Palestinian problem.

. . . 'I was taught songs about killing Jews. You need to get rid of the education system where they are teaching this type of thing and get rid of the terrorist groups. It will take a generation, but until then, there's not going to be peace, it doesn't matter what kind of land settlement you have.'"

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Fence, not wall. PR is another front.

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Ah, the feckless UN:

Peter Hansen gets "jostled" for not rebuilding smuggling tunnels.

#86 Henry S

The documentary was very moving, especially the recollections of concentration camp musicians. I hope other networks take it from the BBC. Eloquent.

Unfortunately I missed the other BBC programme - this evening - about the history of the blood libel.

Why can't the BBC spend more time and resources on FACTS rather than giving endless time to its own commentators' opinions ? We pay our politicians to advance opinions. BBC news output should concentrate on documentaries about - say - the Palestinian or Pakistani education system. Or historical pieces on exactly how the occupied territories came to be occupied in the first place.

Henry S. (#115)

LOL! I love the way you put that :-)

The BBC doing its best:

"We can simply not keep up with this," he said. "We will need some $30m to make sure that all of the people who have lost their homes will be able to have a replacement home."

The frustration felt in Gaza's poorest and most dangerous areas boiled over.

Perhaps if they stopped slaughtering people they wouldn't have to replace all those "lost homes". I hate the BBC, they can't bring themselves to tell the whole story.

Sick. What a total collaspe in any semblance of civilization.

savages

#117 zulubaby

I particularly liked this line:

Israeli troops destroyed buildings which they say have been used as firing positions, or to conceal tunnels for smuggling weapons. While not disputing that this was true in some cases, Mr Hansen said that the scale of demolition could not be justified.

Right, a refurbishment would be more in order!

Henry S. (#119)

Justified? And what about all the Israelis slaughtered because they committed the unforgivable crime of being born Jewish? Can the UN justify that? Probably. Houses can be rebuilt, we can't bring the dead back to life but the sympathy of the UN goes to the bricks. Idiots.

Ms. Andi (#118)

What a total collaspe in any semblance of civilization.

Spot on. This is what Israel has to put up with yet the world sympathizes with the Palestinians. I don't understand it, I never will, and I'm not sure I'd even want to.

"Well you have to admit, she is a bit mannish."

Seriously, now I understand the whole thing with the veil!

Is that what they call "live ammo" she has in her arms?

#116 JohninLondon

I think the problem is more the message than the medium. I've seen the BBC do some documentaries that make their news commentary look positively pristine. Take for example, the hatchet job they did a few months ago on Israel's alleged WMD.

For me, the BBC perfectly embodies the view of most Europeans, that is, Jews are acceptable as long as they are an assimilated minority, contributing to the arts, sciences, etc. But as a nation-state in the ME, Jews are seen as anachronistic and misplaced -- white, European colonialists aggressively "infringing" on Arab lands. There is this absurd romantic notion of an Arab hegemonic sub-continent, unspoiled by the West and carrying on with its "enchanting" 7th century culture. I'm certain this is the way someone like Prince Charles views the scene and I think many other Europeans have similarly naive fantasies.

By generating 50+ years of conflict and co-opting the Jewish narrative of displacement and exclusion, the Arabs have given the BBC a cause and a great story.

IMHO, the Israelis are wise to be making a clean sweep of their prisons - why support these low lifes with three squares and a cot any longer. Let the PA support them.

And if they go back to their former occupation, that is not surprising. There are plenty more where they came from, actually.

Clean out the stables. Let Arafat find jobs and housing for all these "heroes". I think it would be the smartest thing the Isrealis could do. Dump all these stupid shits back on Arafat.

And keep building THE WALL.

The essential paradigm of Palestine is creating partially situated identities out of actual or potential social reality in terms of canonical forms of human contact, thus renormalizing the Israeli phenomenology of narrative space and requiring the naturalization of the intersubjective cognitive Zionist strategy, and thereby resolving the dialectics of metaphorical thoughts, each problematic to the other, collectively redefining and reifying the paradigm of the parable of the model of the metaphor.

Oh, and ... YEEEEEAAAAAAHHHRRRGG!

SEE!!!!!!!!!!!

We have to ban guns...all around the world.
If guns didn't exist, this sort of thing wouldn't happen!

Can't you fools see? See all of those scary guns?

No, honestly...if she were holding a dozen tulips instead of a SKS, do you think she would be so scary? NO!

BAN THE GUNS.

VOTE FOR HOWARD DEAN (OR ONE OF HIS DEMODICK CRONIES)

Re: #125

We're working on Howard's grammar, but isn't his vocabulary fabulous? Don't you just love "redefining and reifying the paradigm," whatever it may turn out to mean?
OK, so he yelled in public. Emotion is good.

I wonder what is written behind this foul wicked monster in the Black Speech of Mordor?

Religion of Terrorism.

Prove me wrong.

I loved the voice-over with the "Deliverance" segment and the Scream, that was the best.

These tards always wear camo (jungle pattern!?!?) fatigues and hold rifles in their photos.

Say what you will about Wagner, but I'll still get goosebups during the closing of the Ring Cycle.

Nitzeche, on the other hand, is unquestionably the philosophical prototype for Nazism.

"Beyond good and evil; there is only DER WILL!

We are the undermensch, living in the Abyss. It is the Ubermensch who lead us. The Ubermensch will lead our fates.

God is dead!!

Netizche drove himself mad, and then Germany. Now a good portion of mankind has been infected, without them even being aware that they are sick.

_____________________

"Without God, anything is permissible." - Blasie Pascal

And #109, no offense, but that saying is one of the more asinine quotes to ever be widely accepted. Go tell that to the paraplegic accident victim or the shellsocked war vetern.

People people....be a LITTLE more understanding here....I mean, CLEARLY this woman was in an absolutely desperate situation. Notice that there's only ONE Nokia cell phone on the floor in the middle of the photo. What a life....WHAT A LIFE!!!

I don't want to start one of those endless, what it is threads, but as one can see from this VERY detailed toy:

[Link: www.legendshobbies.com...]

THe RPG rounds have a long tail that goes inside the tube.
I believe the young boy is holding a mortar shell.

At first I thought they have a room where they make these videos and a pile of weapons to pick one from to hold in your photo/video message. But if these photos were taken in her house, then that shell may be a dummy or lack a fuse, explosive charge and propellent.
It may be the boy's favorite toy.

I've had a horrible, but perhaps helpful idea: The Israelis should post pictures of her corpse (or the bloody chunks that were left) after the bombing - sort of a before and after comparison. They usually recover the head and upper torso of these suicide bomber types. I wonder if it would dissuade another young woman from "glorifying" herself the same way.

What do you think?

Every time I see a pic of a Palestinian kid in close proximity to guns, I think of the howls against Mel Gibson for that scene in The Patriot where Benjamin Martin goes off to free his eldest son from Redcoats and brings his other sons with him - and arms them with muskets. Kids with guns in Revolutionary War film bad, kids with guns in real-life Middle East nothing to get excited about.

#134 Eddy6
If the Israelis started to show the pieces of bodies then they would be criticized for desecrating the body of a dead person. Never mind the desecration of the bodies living before the explosion.

argghhhhh

Yesterday I went to the
Palestine Awareness Week at Rutgers-Newark site [Link: nyc.indymedia.org...] and posted the [Link: story.news.yahoo.com...] photo and link with the comment
"This is obscene. Any society that condones this is sick".
It ain't there any more.
The truth hurts, don't it.

#131 Techie

Your example is an extreme one but if you had friends who are paraplegic accident victims (as I do), you would know that it is precisely the trauma of their condition that has led them to reassess their life, revalue their personal assets, and work that much harder to achieve their goals. There is a lot of good research which points to the fact that after an initial period of readjustment, paraplegics return to their pre-accident level of happiness and are better able to cope with adversity and setbacks than those of us who have not suffered a serious injury.

What Nietzsche was saying is that adversity builds strength of character. That's been true in my life and for most of the people I know.

Dead eyes...forced smile...sallow face...

Definitely looks like someone under a death sentence.

Gun in the right hand, kid in the left. I guess that makes the priorities clear.

This is starting to seem more and more like the last months of WWII. Total desperation.

A logo for MartyrShots!

-and-

Her MartyrShots proof photo!

Thanks for the CyberTarp tip RIP Ford!

I feel like weeping looking at this. I once had two little boys this age and I would never ever for any reason whatsoever, have left them behind.

The little one with the funny looking face appears to me to be normal ie not dismorphic, and rather to have been crying for long enough for his eyes to be puffy and swollen and his nose swollen and red, exagerated by the angle of the camera shot. However, I freely admit I not a practicing clinical geneticist.

#131: Techie

Nitzeche, on the other hand, is unquestionably the philosophical prototype for Nazism.

Unfortunately, that's a post-hoc ergo propter-hoc argumentation. As said, there are some statements by Nietzsche that are nihilistic - that morale is for the weak - that war is the father of all things - etc., and these ideas are strange. They're not new though (Heraklit). And even here, it is important to read the context, because these quotations are often ripped out of it.

But what Nietzsche is stating is not Nazism; Nazism contains much more, the sick Germanic cult, anti-Semitism, Volk etc. - everything of which was largely disgusted by Nietzsche. Nazism is distorted Nietzsche + X + Y + ..., not "Nietzsche". I think this is a huge difference.

According to a recent fatwa, all an Arab husband humiliated by his wifes infidelity has to do to force his wife into a "martyrdom operation" is to declare "I detonate you, I detonate you, I detonate you".
/Ask an Imam

My solution to help these disfunctional families and to further deter suicide bombing is, in addition to bulldozing the houses of suicide bombers, take the children away from the surviving unfit parent and have them be adopted... by an Israeli Jew. After all, it isn't the child's fault, and a little compassion could go a long way here.

I can't believe she's not the least bit embarassed having her 2 year old trounce about with her vibrator.

It just shows the lack of class of these people.

Perhaps the next female suicide bomber will take her brats with her to work! LOL!

History has shown how little radical (and non-radical) Moslems think of their own children. If they think so little of them, why should we care about them?

Put 'em out of their misery before they grow up and learn how to kill Jews and Christians, sez TW in TN!