If he wants to talk about betrayal, let's talk about him and Clinton sitting around with their thumbs up their asses for years while Pakistan shopped its nuclear technology to every fascist cretin on earth.

Oh...it's only Robo-Gore speaking? who listens to him?

And I still can't get his wife's sticker off of my CDs

Here's some explicit lyrics for Al G. STFU!

Doesn't it just make you want to vomit?

The big Democrat advantage this time around is John Kerry does not come off like a clueless AlGore dork.

I wish someone would give that man a job. He really needs something to do. I used to kind of respect him years ago. Then he got into the Clinton orbit and got totally corrupted. Now, he is an uber-idiot.

OT: Who was to blame?

Timothy Garton Ash welcomes an independent inquiry into the Paris bombing of 2009

[Link: www.guardian.co.uk...]

The Guardian suddenly have Conservative seisures or something?

Instead, Gore shouted to the crowd

LOL. Yep, that's what Al always does these days: he shouts. "My advisors have informed me that I must demonstrate more of those so-called 'emotions' experienced by these hue-mahns."

Not quite OT: excellent column by James Woolsey on the Iraqi WMD question, from Saturday's Opinion Journal. He turns a critical eye on all the shrieking about "intelligence failure", e.g.:

Well, suppose that CIA director George Tenet had emphasized human intelligence even more than he does already and had succeeded a year ago in recruiting a batch of Iraqi generals as spies--an incredible achievement. But then each one had honestly but falsely reported that Saddam had WMD, at specific locations. We would still have an intelligence failure.

(N.B. This is required reading for you, Gordon.)

#5 No, Kerry comes across as a haughty, French looking, Botoxed Ent who by the way served in Vietnam.

Anymore,when a dimmicrat opens his mouth,I just have to remember"projection".THey themselves are all too guilty of he charges they seethe about.

Let's see which talk show we can contact that will invite Gore, and then ask him direct questions about his questionable behaviour now and when he was in active office as the Vice President. Who would grill him and not let up?
I"m tired of there being no answering for such behaviour.
And let's find out just how much money he made off of this hate group.

OT

Yesterday my husband and I went to church, and as usual afterwards going to the preachers house for lunch. From there it grows unusual, but a fine time had by all.

As they have cattle as well as horses, there is always something unboring going on.
They had two cows who had been trampled down into the mud on Friday by the other cattle. They had to be pulled from the huge and very muddy ruts with a tractor. As we were predicted in having rain today, they needed to be moved into a place of shelter. So 7 of us drove over to the pasture to move these two girls.
I should have taken my camera with me.
Lots of rigging to get the girls picked up and loaded into a stock trailer was pretty interesting. But what was better is two of the women going out to the herd to rope the month old calf of one of the battered cows. They didn't get the calf, he's stealing milk from one of the other mothers. On the way back to the gap, they had a little meeting of minds in the mud. One lost her duck in the deep sucking mud. She lost her balance and grabbed her partner, both of them going down full body into that cold wet mud. Whatta picture!

I didn't hear Gores message, I had my bullshit filter on. I assume I didn't miss anything rational.

#7:
Nightmarish.

President Hillary Clinton of the United States

Particularly that part.

Ok...who's got the 2" violin duty today? we need a tune suitable for the biggest cry-baby the nation and dc has ever had inflicted upon them.

#5 No, Kerry comes across as a haughty, French looking, Botoxed Ent who by the way served in Vietnam.

You left out 'gigolo.'

Yeah, 'cause it's so not a betrayal to sell nuke secrets to the Chinese for campaign contributions. Treasonous F*ckhead.

I will never understand how he can betray America, Israel, and democracy so fully, and how (some) Americans, and especially Jewish Americans still respect him. Al-Gore, heh.

#8 Occasional Reader

Gordo only reads what he wants to see and believe. He's so narrow minded, that his note pads are a 1/2" wide.

That was a good piece, and in particular a good counter to the Gore of 04, since Director Woolsey was appointed by the Clinton Administration.

I think the only person who has done more to embrace the L cubes than Dean has been Gore. He's made himself irrelevant, and will be so as long as he continues to use (and believe) such rhetoric.

If you believe a guy who flunked out of law and divinity school is brilliant and a guy with a Harvard MBA is an imbecile... you might be a democrat.

“He took America on an ill-conceived foreign adventure, dangerous to our troops, that was preordained and planned before 9-11,” Gore told Tennessee Democrats at a party event.

Yes, and it all started with Bush's rejection of the Kyoto Protocols.

/gorebot

The former vice president said that he, like millions of others, had put partisanship aside after the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks and wanted Bush to lead the nation. Instead, Gore shouted to the crowd, Bush “betrayed us.”

Er, to whom does the word "instead" refer? To Bush or to Gore?

#1 NC- not to mention Osama.
#9 Ellen - no kidding - did Kerry serve in Vietnam? I mean you'd think he'd at least mention it once in his campaign literature or on TV or something.
Gore is just irrelevant.

#9 Ellen

What makes you think Kerry used Botox ?

Algore Jr. to Police:

"I'm Not As Think As You Stoned I Am"

Yes, but Gore has been made completely irrelevant. He backed Dean in the current race, and Kerry is kicking Dean's ass. Kerry is a Democratic Party regular. Dean is the outside. Gore has alienated his Democratic Party base, which means he will never be supported by the party in any race, even if he runs for dogcatcher in D.C.

He's spitting in the wind, folks. Hillary is going to take the Democratic field in '08 if Bush wins re-election. She has proven over and over again that she is an incredibly smart politican. Note that I'm not saying she's a GOOD politician, or even a good senator. But she's crafty, like Bill was crafty, and she is someone to be reckoned with.

Unlike Al Gore, who shot his wad for the wrong candidate.

Let him scream. He's not going anywhere with it. He has no future in politics.

It's so weird that Clinton turns out to have more class than Gore.
Right Wing Conspirator-LOL!

Why did Gore select another person who "betrayed" his country, Joe Lieberman, to be his running mate in 2000?

What Makes You Think The Gigolo Uses Botox

The same thing that makes me think The Gigolo Uses Planted Hecklers

OT

Pulling the plug on JJ's boob...

[Link: www.drudgereport.com...]

“He took America on an ill-conceived foreign adventure, dangerous to our troops, that was preordained and planned before 9-11,” Gore told Tennessee Democrats at a party event.

This is the new big lie for the Democrats first stated by Ted "Mary Jo who?" Kennedy and repeated today in a NYTimes editorial.

The question is, if Bush lied to get us into Iraq, does that mean that the Democrats are so incredibility stupid to have been fooled by the Chimp or just completely gutless to stand up to him?

#26 ROA, WTF are you on about?

#9 Ellen:
Botoxed Ent

Heh! I dunno if that's original or if Ellen is quoting someone else, but either way I love it.

And who needed the 2'' violin?

Al Gore has always been a stilted, convoluted, uncomfortable-in-his-own-skin kind of speaker. What's changed lately is that all this is accompanied by a bizarre-sounding demagoguery. He sounds like an even more unhinged clone of his protege, Howard Dean. I know he's trying to appeal to the angry Leftists out there--and Lord knows there are plenty of them--but there's a fine line between sounding fired up and sounding deranged, and Gore seems to have crossed it.

But then, we will never know the frustration of coming within a hair's width of the Presidency, losing your one and only shot at it, and then throwing your support beside the apparent front-runner, only to see him fold in the stretch.

Add another "L" to el cubed in honor of old Al: Loony Left Liberal LOSER.

Gore told Tennessee Democrats

The former vice president said

Uh, not if you saw the video and heard the audio like I did this morning. It was a frightening freak-out easily on par with Dr. Dean at his most heated moments. I'd consider tuning in to one of the cable news-analysis programs tonight just to see if they run the clip.

BTW Al, why aren't you running for president? Surely to a country so imperiled, it wouldn't matter if you won or lost, just that the people got a choice. And how could you lose, as it'll be trivial to beat a man so despised and untrustworty as Bush in everyone's eyes, right?

And think how close we were to having Gore as our President right now. America really does fly perilously close to disaster sometimes.

#27 V the K

That is just pitiful. Like one of those sitcom/ 80s teen flick where you pay someone to let you win a fight to impress the girls. Way to go Mons. Kerry.

Of course, we could cut Al some slack. He apparently doesn't have the best advisors anymore.

Also, don't miss Rummy's speech from Saturday:

Last November, I was in South Korea during their debate on whether or not they should send South Korean forces to Iraq. A woman journalist came up to me and put a microphone in front of my face -- she was clearly too young to have experienced the Korean war -- and she said to me in a challenging voice: “Why should young South Koreans go halfway around the world to Iraq to get killed or wounded?”[...]

And I said to this woman, you know, that would have been a fair question for an American journalist to ask 50 years ago -- why in the world should an American go halfway around the world to South Korea and get wounded or killed?

We were in a building that looked out on the city of Seoul and I said, I'll tell you why. Look out the window. And out that window you could see lights and cars and energy and a vibrant economy and a robust democracy. And of course I said to her if you look above the demilitarized zone from satellite pictures of the Korean Peninsula, above the DMZ is darkness, nothing but darkness and a little portion (Inaudible.) of light where Pyongyang is. The same people had the same population, the same resources. And look at the difference. There are concentration camps. They're starving. They've lowered the height for the people who go in the Army down to 4 feet 10 inches because people aren't tall enough. They take people in the military below a hundred pounds. They're 17, 18, 19 years old and frequently they look like they're 13, 14, and 15 years old.

Korea was won at a terrible cost of life -- thousands and thousands and thousands of people from the countries in this room. And was it worth it? You bet.

#24 Meryl Yourish: Actually, the Dean endorsement could work in Al's favor. All that has to happen is that Kerry lose the election (inshallah). Then Al steps forward and says he told everyone the Washington insider road wasn't the way to go, moderation is diluting the party and hurting their electibility. He told everyone to pick Dean, but they chose otherwise and gave Bush a second term.

OK, the logic doesn't necessarily follow, but remember his audience. Now I dont' think this is ultimately a winning strategy even within the party itself, but many Dems would be so freaked out come '05 that they would buy into this, and create some major fissures/shake-ups within the party. Inshallah.

Mery Yourish (#24) is right--nobody pays attention to Gore anymore.

But what about those pastries made with blood? I recently had a prune danish at a kosher deli in NYC--should I be worried?

I wish the media would run a daily column--something along the line of "News of the Weird" --""Daily Absurdity from the Muslim Madhouse"-- so Americans could get a grasp of the depravity and the nuttiness of what passes for "analysis" or "thought" in some Arab-American circles. Maybe laughter is part of the prescription here.

Lieberman has been a strong supporter of the war, so if Bush "betrayed" the country the same can be said of Lieberman.

The irony of this is that the toppling of Saddam has been the US policy for the past 3 administrations. If Clinton had to oppertunity to do it he probably would have (maybe not). Bush Jr. had enough public support to go in and topple Saddam.

#32 Scaramouche - Don't forget to add that he would be president now if had only carried his home state - that the people who knew him best voted for Bush must be nearly as frustrating as losing the entire election.
But reading about Gore's "Bush betrayed us" it couldn't have happened to a better guy. FOAD Al.

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

While Al licks the 5th Column's collective asshole, his good friend Jesse works tirelessly to defend the oppressed; in particular the criminal element. Go Jesse Go!

ROA-right, of course that's what you meant. Sorry-when I read that I thought you were making an oblique antisemitic slur on Lieberman.
Maybe I should start drinking coffee again.

“He took America on an ill-conceived foreign adventure, dangerous to our troops, that was preordained and planned before 9-11,” Gore told Tennessee Democrats at a party event.

And his proof that it was preordained and planned is…?

what a disgraceful bastard this man is.

Add another "L" to el cubed in honor of old Al: Loony Left Liberal LOSER.

Far out -- so he's like an L-tesseract, then -- his loony left liberal loserdom extends forward and back in Time as well as in the three spatial dimensions.

Somewhere there's an "And He Built A Crooked White House" joke, just waiting for a Heinlein geek to make it.

Can I vent for a moment? Can I tell you all how much I despise Al Gore?

That man is a pompous windbag, and a hypocrite of the first order. His mantra of "Bush was selected, not elected" makes me crazy. Why?

1) Al Gore saw fit to throw our country into a month-long period of political turmoil while he and his hired hacks tried to devolve the established legal procedure for vote recounts.

2) Gore saw fit to demand recounts in Palm Beach County alone, then in carefully selected south Florida districts, then statewide when votes in democratic strongholds proved insufficient.

4) Al Gore saw fit to call out Jesse Jackson and other African-American race-baiters to create a myth that African-American votes had been discounted in favor of wealthy white ones, putting Florida at risk of riots reminiscent of Liberty City.

3) Al Gore saw fit to ask the court to grant him the power to determine that a vote for him with only one of several perforations slightly dented counted more than a fully perforated chad belonging to Bush or Nader.

4) Al Gore saw fit to discount military and overseas absentee votes in favor of people too feeble minded to figure their way through a butterfly ballot, let alone push a chad all the way through.

5) Al Gore saw fit to seek court approval to manipulate the recount process until sufficient votes could be produced to give him the victory, and his tacit approval of the Florida Supreme Court overlooking legal precedent in favor of activism reeked of Constitution disregard when it served him.

So where does the greater betrayal exist? With a president who waged a war ridding us of a brutal tyrant who sought to promote terrorism and acquisition of WMD's by those who would use them against the US, or with a power-hungry, autocrat wanna-be who thought the Constitution meant less than his political ambitions? I've never wished a stroke on anyone, but if it would shut this a$$hat up, then I wish it so!

#37 Occasional Reader

Yeah Rummy is great. Here's the dream team:
Rummy for President with Rudy Giulani as his running mate. That would work.

Damn you, Throbert-I always get lost for at least half an hour when someone links mathworld. I have to resist!

Well, at least President Bush made a quick respone to Gore.

#48 sharona (or anyone else that can answer)

Were the military votes that had been 'questionable' ever counted or were they just disregarded altogether?

But what about those pastries made with blood? I recently had a prune danish at a kosher deli in NYC--should I be worried?

Er, was that the Soylent Greenberg deli?

TEXT: Vice President Gore promised the London-based
Iraqi National Congress that if he becomes president
next January, there will be little difference between
his policy toward Saddam Hussein and that of President
Clinton.

/// GORE ACT ///

The United States will not flag in supporting
your efforts to promote a change of regime even
as we continue to contain the threat posed by
Saddam.

/// END ACT ///

But Republican presidential candidate George W. Bush -
- whose father put together the international
coalition that drove Iraqi troops from Kuwait nine
years ago -- has advocated a more aggressive stand
against Baghdad, with Bush campaign advisors wondering why more was not done during the Clinton/Gore years to oust the Iraqi leader. The Bush team has called the Clinton/Gore policy toward Iraq a debacle.
[Link: www.fas.org...]

Who was right? Maybe that's whats bothering AlGore.

Algore has clearly lost his mind.
He must know that the stuff he is spewing is wrong, but he does it anyway. He has nothing to gain from doing it. What's going on, Al?

Sadly, he and boobs like Howard Dean make Hillary look rational by comparison. Electing her would be a bigger disaster than electing Gore.

#48 sharona: Have you ever played poker for real money (or do you at least know how to)? If so, what does it mean during a hand when you say "I fold"? It means I give up my claim on any part of the stakes in this hand to those who are still in on it. Forever. I'm out for good. No, if you reveal you were bluffing, my money's still lost. I can't ask the dealer to see what my next card(s) would be, then decide to get back in. You are done, toast, kaput, of your own free choice.

When Gore conceded the 2000 election, then decided he wanted back in, it told me everything I'll ever need to know about the quality of his character.

If I remember correctly, RWC, the military votes were discounted by Gore, and following the Supreme Court's decision to uphold Florida's existing statute giving the FL Secretary of State the right to declare a victor, they were not included in any final official vote count.

I'll see if I can find confirmation or contra-indication of that and post it later.

#57 sharona

Thanks. But don't worry about searching for it, I'll find something on it.

#48 Sharona - don't forget that after the Supreme Court upheld the law, the "Media" did their own recount - and were clearly staggered to come to the conclusion that Bush won!! (I knew I should have kept those stories) I think it was something like 5 or 6 media leaders (maybe CNN/NYT ?) who pooled their resources to do the recount.
#52 Right Wing Conspirator - my recollection is that they were not counted.

L-tesseract. Heh. Poor Algore, he is so irrelevant. Like I said, get the man a job.

BTW, Peggy Noonan referred to Kerry as looking like a sad tree, but as far as I know botoxed ent is my own creation. (bows)

Heard him on the Nashville Tennessee news station in an ad. They showed a picture of him in Vietnam. I was so impressed. (insert sarcastic laugh)

OT: Democratic child abuse.

[Link: www.deaniebaby.com...]

Exhibit A:

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.

We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."

Al Gore
Speech to San Francisco Commonwealth Club
September 23, 2002

[Link: www.usatoday.com...]

Exhibit B:

Al Gore said last night that the time had come for a "final reckoning" with Iraq, describing the country as a "virulent threat in a class by itself" and suggesting that the United States should consider ways to oust Saddam Hussein.

The New York Times
Gore, Championing Bush, Calls For a 'Final Reckoning' With Iraq
February 13, 2002

[Link: query.nytimes.com...]
 

Model 4:

I've always wanted to learn to play poker, but I do understand the basic tenets of the game. And yes, Al Gore sought to re-enter a game he's folded out of, and claim the pot forthwith.

When Gore conceded the 2000 election, then decided he wanted back in, it told me everything I'll ever need to know about the quality of his character.

Gore thinks character is something you're born with. The rest of us know that character is something you prove yourself to be possessed of, and that it is those times where self-sacrifice is called for that we demonstrate our strength of same.

That's okay. Just let 'em keep pulling in the rope - lots of lovely Elven rope. "It burns us, Precious!"

And I say that not as a Republican, but as an Independent who doesn't like sanctimonious self-righteous frauds.

Algore was a fairly moderate and sensible Democrat back when. I didn't always agree with him but he wasn't a nutcase and I figured you could talk to him.
But he has strolled off the pier into the lagoon of lunacy.

27 V the K
Lady I love your posts - from what i gather is your heroic strength to fiight on - single Moms are heroes - Mammalian life ( Single Mom Heroes ) are the reason that higher forms of life exist- I mean moms- who take a reasonable care of theirs - who out of maternal energy take care of their young - they are the greatest since the their ejaculating Fathers are out & are only taken care by MOMS when they are born.

#60 Ellen: Gore does have a job. He gets paid for selling Apples to... (looking around)...

Listen, forget I said anything.

#62 William - ooohhh that's so GOOD!!! Really, kudos to you (I'd award you a gold star or two for that, but then you know Clark would jump in and say he outranked you!!)
What's so disgraceful is that EVEN Dean hasn't said anything that is so blatantly a lie (uh, wait a sec... he mustave and at least more than once).
As I said my #42 - the voters who knew him best chose Bush.
Really terriffic pick up William.

#66 Westward Ho

Didn't you get this wrong the other day also. V the K is a man, baby ! ;-)

Westward Ho (#66),

Dagnabit, you made everyone freak about Model4, now you're gonna do the same thing to V the K.

V the K is a man, baby! ;-)

President Hillary Clinton of the United States and

Jewels, am I the only one who gets heartburn everytime I read that?

Ellen:

L-tesseract. Heh. Poor Algore, he is so irrelevant. Like I said, get the man a job.

Actually, he has a job. With a fancy title, no less.
Goreto Accept Vice Chairman Position with LA-based Investment Firm

Former Vice President Al Gore has accepted the job of vice chairman of a Los Angeles-based financial management services firm and will help the firm find investments overseas, as well as private-equity investments in biotechnology and information technology. Gore will add the job at Metropolitan West Financial to his other duties as college professor and guest speaker. He is also writing a book with his wife, Tipper, about the American family

Anybody know someone at Metropolitan West Financial? My guess is it's the high-end equivalent of a "ghost-payroll" gig, with Gore claiming a very large salary while only showing up for the occasional board meeting. Obviously, he's learnt a lot from the Mayor Daley here in my hometown of Chicago.

A must read and it's absolutely histerical! Rememeber Father Guido Sarducci from SNL? Well, Don Novello, aka Lazlo Toth has published a paperback called from Bush to Bush where he writes letters to various political leaders and his favorite is Gore, and Gore responds. He even suggests to Gore that he should enroll in dental school after his failing to win the pres. election. I don't know what is funnier, the letters written by Lazlo or the response letters back from Gore. Classic funny stuff and it shows plain and clear how hollow this guy is.

Right Wing Conspirator (#67),

Jinx. GMTA.

And stop swiping my StrangeCosmos links. ;-)

hellcat, I love Lazlo! Good link, thanks. :-)

#71 Judith - lucky you, I throw up!

#72 sharona

re: Met West Financial

re: my #73 post, Lazlo writes a letter to Gore at MWF and asks him if he'll manage his IRA for him, another classic!

#76 realwest

Until I read the thread backwards, I thought you and Judith were both pregnant.

#74 Geepers

LOL. GMTA ?

Strange Cosmos, I, uh, I don't know what your talking about.

OK. One more. Just emailed that to a lot of the liberal fems at work. (Not LLL) Just think that Bush looks pretty cool on the top pic, compared with pasty boy McCoy on his right.

I think Charles really needs to include a permalink in the top right hand corner, listing the genders of the "regulars".

#78 Scaramouche - your just saying that so I'll reapply the f/k/a Bob back to my nic aren't you?!!! Well just remember I KNOW the name of Kerry's boat!!!

#53, Frank IBC

Funny you should mention that...

Did you see the story (Sat. NYT) about the Jewish basketball player (yes they CAN jump) from tony Dalton School who was taunted with antisem slurs while playing against equally tony Trinity? Causing quite a stir on the Upper (East and West) Sides of NYC--if nowhere else.

Damn. And here I thought it was specifically to coincide with this lizardoids birthday!

I get it now, Al Gore is running for Vice President again. Well, as a major political player myself, I think that Gore doesn't bring enough green greeters to the table for Al Sharpton to take him on board to ride the caboose position, charitable as the Rev may be. Maybe Al should bring his "easy English" skills over to the Dennis K campaign to lend it a bit of "gravitas" and additional coherance.

V the K is a man, baby! ;-)

Thanks, Geepers. Jebus, I'm not even a flamer.

#80 Frank IBC

I swear, you woman always come up with the best ideas ;-p

womEn. Duh.

My brush with Al Gore:

I had the displeasure of meeting Al Gore outside the Capitol Building in the summer of 1989. My brother and I were walking around the mall, checking out the Vietnam Memorial and such, when we saw him walking away from the Capitol. I said something like, "Hey, aren't you Al Gore?" He stopped, no smile, and asked who we were. We told him and he said, "I'm really in a hurry, boys". I said, "Can we get a picture?" He seemed annoyed but consented. Then, Mr. Politician kicked in, and he suggested that we each take a picture shaking his hand with the Capitol in the background. While this was happening, a car ran smack into one of those pop-up concrete barriers around the Capitol. We figured the driver wasn't paying attention to where he was going because he was excited at seeing Andrew and Dean with some tall guy.

You could see the car sort of half on the pop-up concrete barrier in the picture, but I lost mine. Maybe my brother still has his.

Until I read the thread backwards, I thought you and Judith were both pregnant.

LOL! -internal shudder of horror- LOL!

Sen. Kerry,
Is this one of your relatives?

#84 Gymnast - The right rev Al will go anywhere if the words "matching funds" are whispered in his ear. What's sad is that he would add some coherence to D the C's campaign.
Oh Jeez - don't mention Cooper to Al - he'd come running quick as sh, ah real fast!!

Twenty-eight days til Purim--can't wait for my annual serving of blood-drenched triangular pastries (personally, I prefer prune to poppy seed).

Just Imagine the alter world if El Gore had been elected, Yikes...

there shouldb be no debate over my gender!! Nor am I even gender confused!

I always delight in the fact that Al Gore couldn't win his home state (Tennessee), and that that, and not Florida, is The Real Reason He's Not President.

And now the political battleground shifts to the Volunteer State once again...

John Edwards - Vote For The Ambulance-Chaser, It's Important!

RWC (#79),

GMTA

pasty boy McCoy

LOL! Please put on some pants! (Equally appropriate for Ted Kennedy parties)

V the K, aka Viking the Kitten, aka abu Messerschmitt,

My pleasure.

Oh wait, ... maybe I should rephrase that.

No problemo. ;-)

#51 RWC

That was a good "one"! But, dont you know it is meanspirited people like you that cause people like ALGORE (ooops, didnt mean to insult actual human beings) to scream insane delusions in public?

Oh, and did you hear that Kerry was in Vietnam?

#92, scaramouche

Bon appetit, you "Jewish vampire."

Have you noticed how those devilishly clever Jews disguise their recipes for Purim Hamentaschen by substituting "1/4 cup orange juice" for the real thing?
Orange juice indeed! Where'd they get that in the shtetl?

Back to the old line: "Where they believe absurdities, they'll commit atrocities." Then and now.

Just jumping on the gender confusion bandwagon.
Okay, I'll stop now.

Yeesh, I'm used to online forums being like 95% guys. This site confuses me, what with the gender diversity and all.

Now that I have heard Al Gore actually giving the speech it is even more comical since he gave it in his angry Alpha male voice... the one where he snarls and growls like a rabid wolf... or, more accurately, like a wussy democrat does when he needs to sound "manly."

does anyone have the audio link to this freak show speech by Gore? I heard it on the radio this morning during the drive in to work and want to hear it again. It sounds quite hysterically Dean-like. No wonder he endorsed Dean.

I'll be OK as long as he does not endorse Bush:-)

Norwegian Woody (#101)

You shouldn't drive while listening to Al Gore!

zulubaby, LOL!

It's true, he'll put you to sleep.

Just one more beat in the "Al Gore Rhythm".

(Boo, hiss - ed)

Remember that Neil Bush spoke there as well... and James Baker... and they mixed good in with garbage all the time. They put up a front of being respectable.

But note this - Zayed Center Shuts Down

I can't believe we're not discussing my brush with Al Gore (re#88).
I'll just have to take my money and stop posting here.

/joshua

Just one more beat in the "Al Gore Rhythm".

Is that like an "Algorerithm," a mathematical process wherein you continuously repeat a counting process while differing variables until a desired result is achieved.

andrew, LOL!!

I knew that would get a smile outta you, zulubaby!

More than a smile, a laugh! ;-)

Okay, I read your #88. Essentially what you're saying is that you're a traffic-stopper. Correct? LOL.

Well, actually, yes... I mean, no...just an attempt at being cute. But it really happened.

Thanks for playing with me, zulubaby :-)

V the K,

As one who deals in algorithms all the time, I can honestly say that they are a great deal more interesting than listening to Al robo Gore.

Andrew,

I read and laughed at your post also, where was the accident? (I mean meeting al gore, not the car running into the barrier). I'm familar with DC...

andrew, zulubaby-

I'll just have to take my money and stop posting here. /joshua

Is this some famous lgf incident that I missed, or what?

48 Sharona

Well put. Pretty much summed up it up for me.

Oh yeah, one more item -
Hey little al, you disgusting piece of human filth, you have forfeited the right to be taken seriously on any issue. Now, before anyone notices that you are still here, would be a good time to slip out the back door...

As someone who supported Algore back in 1988 when he first ran for the Democratic nomination for President, all I can say is thank God that this phony populist never made it to the White House. The fact that he could not even win his own home state of Tennessee tells you all you need to know.

Unfortunately the nature of Demcoratic Party poltiics is such that the Democrats could naminate Dennis Kucinich or Al Sharpton and still automatically get 40,000,000 votes.

#115 John Gibbon

I'm not familiar with D.C., but it was on the mall, far enough from the Capital Building to get it in the background.

Strangely enough, my family lives in a small town in Oklahoma called "Gore", named after one of Al's relatives.

#93 John Gibbon

Are you going to get to the junctiion of the Little Bighorn in time to save Custer?

#116 evariste

No big incident - some crybaby named joshua took his ball and went home because nobody wanted to discuss the recent cyanide salt find in Iraq.

Joel #120

Do those 40,000,000 votes belong to dead people who are permenantly registrared as democratic voters?

Or is that just the 40M that belong to insert name Workers Union?

#24 Meryl Yourish

I hope that you are feeling better.

I miss the Democratic Party of Henry Jackson, Harry Truman, Hubert Humphrey, FDR, JFK, Zell Miller, even LBJ (well not exactly). In some cities such as my New York, the political diversity is more reminiscent of Lenningrad circa 1956.

#125 Rayra

Cool - could you give a little play-by-play for those of us who don't get Fox?

Joel,

Kudos to you for being probably one of a few that recognize my alias...

Being that it's 2004, I think I'm a little too late, too dead and too far away to get there in time.

But let's no turn this into a Civil War Roundtable

OT, but a couple days back the WaPo ran a story about

Major General Gibbon

TGhe 40,000,000 votes belong to
(and this is the unvarnished politically incorrect truth0
1. black voters who are 90% automatic Democratic
2. 60-70% Jewish voters who still think that the Democratic Party is the party of FDR
3. Union robots
4. newly enfranchised illegal aliens
5. radical feminists
6. college students and professors who hate their country

I promise not to turn it into a Civil War roundtable. I did visit the Little Bighorn back in 1992. My Union hero was Gibbon's corps commander at Gettysburg, Winfield Scott Hancock.

Anyway it drives me nuts when I run into people who talk conservative but admit that they cannot vote Republican. It's almost as if voting Reopublican to them is akinto voting for Nazis. Talk about needing to be deprogrammed!

Zulubaby,

No kidding, I almost drove off the road laughing hysterically when I heard it. I need a good laugh now so I want to hear it again! Seriously, after hearing it, I shuddered to think that man came so close to being in the White House. His true colors have come out. I consider it an act of God that he is not our leader. I'm not trying to sound Pat Robertsonish but seriously, don't you think?

Does anyone have the audio link to it? Please!

#13.2 Rayra

Thanks anyway, Rayra - I get the idea :-)

andrew, LOL! Thanks for the explanation.

That should be #132 - damned Dewey decimal system.

Joel,

It bothers me the way Unions will sometimes use scare tactics with their workers. Things like:

"your job is at stake"
"think of your children"

I see many honest working blue collar workers torn between their family values and their union goals.

It bothers me that many union organizers have never really spent a whole lot of time down in the trenches of the workers they represent.

(Got tons of books on Gibbon and the Iron Brigade. He is a study of integrity, when you consider his southern background, he was always loyal to his commission as a federal officer, nuff said)

I should have pointed out which of your posts I was lolling at, andrew, it's the one about the cyanide salt/joshua. Poorly timed :-)

#138 evariste

Buy me a beer and all is forgiven ;-)

I knew which post you were referring to. :-)

I'd buy you a beer, but doesn't cyanide salt go better with tequila shots? :-)

Norwegian Woody (#133)

Actually, I'm more concerned about you falling asleep at the wheel ...

#140 evariste

What, you wanna kill me now? I've got relatives in your neck of the woods - Italian relatives. Know what I'm saying. ;-)

Does anyone have the audio link to it? Please!

Here ya go

[Link: www.tndp.org...]

#142 andrew-too well! Beer it is :-)

Thanks V the K,

It's more horrifying than I thought. What a sicko. He sounds like he's demon-possessed. Gee, maybe he is?

As for you my Zulubaby,

Don't worry about me falling asleep at the wheel...my Norwegian Woody will keep me in control! LOL!

#137 John Gibbon

Funny though Reagan got a majority of the union votes in 1984 despite Mondale being the ultimate union stooge. On the other hand look at New Jersey, heavily Democratic despite it being loaded with ex New Yorkers who fled the high taxes and crime of the Wagner, Lindsay, Beame, Koch, Dinkins years. Yet it is a strong Union state and almost impossible for a Republican to win high office unless you are a Christie Todd Whitman type of Republican.

One of Gibbon's pre war friends was the North Carolinian James Johsnton Pettigrew whose division charged against Gibbon's on Jul 3, 1863. They studied military science together before the war when Pettigrew ws a militia commander.

V t K is a "manbaby"? Is that like "manchild"?

#145 Norwegian Woody -

I've heard of people steering with their knees, but this is ridiculous. :o)

V the K,

Thanks for the link!

I just love this caveat of authority:

I think there were millions just like me ...

Yeah, OK Al. You and the millions of your imaginary friends need to seek counseling.

#147 Frank IBC 2/9/2004 12:35PM PST

Oh, be-have!

Norwegian Woody (#145)

Thanks, I just choked on my tea. Children read this website you know! LOL.

Geepers-is Al Gore the real Slim Shady?

And there's a million of us just like me
Who cuss like me; who just don't give a fuck like me
Who dress like me; walk, talk and act like me
And just might be the next best thing but not quite me!

#145 V the K

I agree ALGOREs "irant" was kind of demon-like.
But doesnt his stone face "uber" look at the end of the scream remind you of the alien professor's look in the movie Buckaroo Bonzai?

evariste (#152),

LOL!

Of course now I have to link to The Real Hussein.

The snarl in Gore's voice... it sounds like Nathan Lane trying to imitate Jack Nicholson.

#153 stevieboy

But doesnt his stone face "uber" look at the end of the scream remind you of the alien professor's look in the movie Buckaroo Bonzai?

"Laugh while you still-a can, stevieboy!"

Thanks alot Ross Perot, you ahole.

#157 Papijoe

...as Lord Gore-fin screams " We go home" now that we have the overthruster that I invented by using the internet that I also invented.

Dr. Jalahama's biggest lie is this:

""On the 'Exploitation of the Jewish Woman… She is Still Denied Her Rights as a Human Being… She is Even Deprived of Her Children'"In another context, [Dr. Jalahma] said that the Jewish woman is politically and socially oppressed by the Jewish fundamentalists and secularists alike, mentioning that the Jewish woman lives in a miserable condition that requires the intervention of the international humanitarian organization to protect her. "

If Dr. Jalaham had talked about the oppressed Jewish male, I would have agreed whole heartedly, but an opressed Jewish female, pleassse? This is so absurd and clearly shows the woman is a loon. Obviously, she has never met a man in a relationship with a Jewish woman, such as myself, my dad, and the rest of the sorry ass male members of my family.

#159 stevieboy

LOL! If I could pick my nic over again, I think it would be John BigBoo-TAY

#158 Clinton/Gore Turned Down Osama -

As most know, Ross Perot helped Clinton by "spoiling" Bush in 1992.

But what most may not know is that Perot had more "selfish" motives for doing this:

1) Getting even with the elder Bush regarding his supposed role in bringing down his buddy Democrat Speaker of the House Jim Wright, in 1989

2) Anticipating that his EDS would get some big contracts (for setting up a claims processing system) if "HillaryCare" had gone through

In 1996, the joke was on the stooges who helped Perot in 1992 - Mr. Perot seemed to not dislike the two-party system all that much now, given that a Democrat was in the White House.

There is good reason for Gore's wife to have had a deep and prolonged battle with depression. Fortunately the rest of us don't have to park our slippers next to Al's or brush our teeth in the same mirror.

We are in Iraq now and we should make the best of the situation. If the US is to evolve and prosper it had better be doing something other than wringing it's hands and gazing into it's navel.

[Link: www.tndp.org...]

Yes, is it me or do you here ulululululululululululu mixed in with the clapping and yelling at the end.

Good old Gorebot trying to imitate Jack Nicholson: You can't handle the truth! (That Tipper's fat and has shitty opinions about music.)

Al, don't you get snippy with me.

#48 Sharona, wow excellent summation.

Al Gore is indeed irrelevant. Even the Dems won't get behind him after a full electoral season of his robotic delivery and politcal shape-shifting.

Al Gore and Bill Clinton betrayed America in the most fundamental ways that it's possible to betray her.

Al Gore tried to usurp the Constitution of the United States (which he swore to defend) by trying to overturn the electoral college and manipulate the Florida Vote Count. Al Gore would have single-handedly changed us into the United Banana Republic States of America.

Bill Clinton sold us out to the Chinese with the full complicity of Al Gore. Clinton gave the Chinese our most sensitive nucelar weapons technology. Who does he think those nukes are aimed at?

The Journalists of this country bear a HEAVY burden of guilt by thier complicity with both of these scumbags. Unfortunately for the U.S. and the world we will have to wait for historians to tell us just how guilty these two dirtbags are.

The Democrats will never again be a serious political force until they end thier dependence on MENDACITY, HYPERBOLE, and DEMAGOGUERY. Anyone who can't see this has drunk the kool-aid and is trying to serve it up to the rest of us.

Al Gore FOAD and shut UP already!

#62 William

I took a chance and registered a forum account over at AlGore04.com and presented your evidence to the "guilty." I posted your evidence (and gave you the credit) in their forums under this topic.

Consequently my account, actually my entire IP block, was banned from the site! I will admit, my post was alittle trollish (and undoubtedly republican-in-disguise-as-a-moderate), but you would think people that are so "open" to change and questioning authority wouldn't be so quick with the censorship button. I don't know why I thought it would actually NOT be banned.

It certainly made me laugh. I cannot wait for the response to my angry email to the admin. I wouldn't be surprised if the admin is Gore, sitting at home in his basement wearing his Greenpeace pajamas smoking weed.

After listening to that clip, I am now officially afraid of Democrats. The man who was VP and wanted to be President sounds worse than Mad How, more like a typical poster at DU and Indymedia.

One thing he said is true, though - the pre-ordained and planned part. As most of you already know, in September 1998 Congress passed the Iraq Liberation Act, calling for the removal of Saddam Hussein's regime. President Clinton signed the bill on October 31.

Now what was that about betrayal again, Al?

#143

In that clip, Gore sounds like Vince McMahon...

#167 Jim C

Great point, but the media will just keeping pushing the WMD button. What is with all the crazed screaming by the LLL lately it is like desperation. Does everyone remember the Paul Welstone FUNERAL. Yes, funeral turned in to crazed LLL screaming WE ARE GOING TO WIN THIS ELECTION FOR PAUL FOR PAUL FOR PAUL. I still can't believe that night.

I keep TRYING to be Republican but then THIS kinda thing happens..

James "FUCK THA JEWS" Backer down in Fla..saying in everyway possible.."what IF..those Jooosss voting absentee in I>>>S>>>R>>>>A>&g t;>E>>>L are the deciding vote in this election--He'd you like THAT?" Something along that line..and further he went on to talk about how Absentee Votes by these Jooosss could be counterfieted..or tweaked to show that everything was correct and legal when in fact it might NOT be...Jews got that message quick..The message was SHUT YOUR JEW MOUTH or else..else what? Jooo Conspiracy to steal election..blah blah blah.

Course he wasn't all worried about the Americans voting absentee in France, or England or Costa Rica..He was just very uneasy and said so LOUDLY about those Israeli --Jooo VOTES.

And then there is Norquist.

The list is just as long or longer in the Dem Party.

I have nobody to vote for this time..NOBODY.

Further: I dont know what happened to Gore. He was once a kind of Jackson Democrat..Scoop Jackson (Centrist..strong on Defense)that is..Now..what the F..is going on with him? Hes lost it completely and utterly.

Showed lots of class in how he treated Lieberman as well...Thanks Al--what a Mench YOU turned out to be...Yeah right!

sorry ..spelled James Baker wrong..James...Im in the WH NOW..Baker.

Got a link on that James Baker story, Leah?

[Link: www.informationclearinghouse.info...]

It was by the grace of God (and his inspired servant Scalia) that George Bush was elected instead of this demagogue. The least those terminally stupid retirees in Florida can do for their country now is to vote for GWB this time round.

Speaking of James Baker, I just Googled to see exactly what it was that he said, and this was the first link that came up (from December 2000):

One thing distinguishes Bush and Gore - their approach to Israel and the Middle East crisis

Although every presidential candidate has to intone the platitudes about "Israel-our-truest-friend-in-the-Mideast", Republican administrations have been much less susceptible to Israeli pressure than the Democrats. That was true of Eisenhower at the time of Suez, of Reagan selling Awac surveillance aircraft to Saudi Arabia in 1981 despite ferocious Israeli opposition and of Bush the elder 10 years later. Summing up his frustration at Israeli intransigence - and lobbying - in faintly risible but heartfelt words, he said that he was "one lonely little guy down here" who was "up against some powerful political" groups.

There are good objective reasons for Republican detachment from Israel. It's quite true that the Jews don't vote for them anyway. And Israel doesn't have any oil fields. The likely Bush administration drips oil from every orifice, and has many good Arab friends, if not in Gaza, then in the Gulf.

Bear in mind it's al-Guardian.

Everiste: Dont keep all that stuff--would need a warehouse by now if I did ..lololol...This went on for about ??? 5 or 6 days...then they went off of that "line" onto the Military Absentee Voters and how the Dem's didn't respect them or how the Dem's were trying to actively discount them. by all sorts of legal means or making the Absentee Ballots be perfectly filled out OR else discounted--more about the Stamp and if they needed it and the Date... By the time they got off the issue of ExPat Jews in Israel voting..we had gotton the message.

Course not only was Baker saying that..it was INDIVIDUAL Repubs on the INTERNET-- lots. Lots on whatsherface..Lucienne.com and other places. The long and short of it was: Do we really really REALLY want those Jooosss in Israel, who are Dual Loyalists...(why do they live there anyway?) deciding this election? Little snide references by the Buchanan and his ilk as well. Some other Journalists joined in(including Jewish Journalists that were scared to death) ...It was IN THE AIR but GOOD and all over the place!

Remember now: They werent AS worried about those people in the rest of Europe or Costa Rica voting absentee...just the Jooosss in Israel.

If you know Baker ...and Sunnunu and types like that...you wont be surprised. AND hes in the White House NOOOWWW.

If I remember correctly..at the time I looked at the two different parties Ex Pat (thats not the name they used but..) Websites..The Dems had Israel in the Middle East..and the Repubs had Israel in EUROPE...What was UP with that? I never did understand that one.

Everiste..thats what happened..thats what I heard and thats the truth of the matter. Gots to say what I heard.

Just remember who talked about his alot...CNN journalist and as usual his name doesnt come to mind. When he comes on again..Ill put his name up for ya..in whatever thread we are on..OK?

Zulu: Everyone knows about Baker and where he stands..even without the "F..the Jews"..(Im not sure just how many Arab Countries he has Lobbied for)He and Sununu..and Weinberger and then there is Zabig(Democrat)..wont even try to spell his last name. These are just a teeny few..but too many near Bush Jr now and probably more to come in a 2nd term.

I say...the fun of having a "team" spirit..my team is right..your team is wrong..is a luxury now. Thats for later when we dispose of the danger. We need to get off that for our own SURVIVAL. I really think this.

It was scarey to watch him down in Fla. Downright frightening. This is NOT to be confused with the argument of who didn't vote for who...and who made a mistake or dangling chads..Im just talking BAKER here.

Everiste: I remember two TV Journalists that took up the "cry"... Bill Schneider at CNN and whenever Cris Mathews was on..he did the same. They come to mind right away. If I think or more including Buchannon of course..I put them up.

Leah-thanks sweetie. Please do, if you think of more.

And...Fuck James Baker..Westminster is on now..USA..Tonight and Tomorrow night.

Thank G-d for the pleasure of loving dogs...helps ME...anyway.

Three New Breeds..Fox Terrier Toy..Nova Scotia Retriever, and German Pincher. German Pincher Predates Doberman Pincher. The Nova Scotia Retriever..pretty pretty face. Fox Terr. Toy is cute as a button.

Favorites to Win
Raisen..Doby
Newfounland..Josh
Norfolk Terr. ...Coco

These are in contention but those snooty people love to give the top prize to whoever..else THEY want. Cant have us unwashed masses saying what the best dog is...lololol

Leah

James Baker, IMO, is just there to do a job they knew he could get done. Baker doesn't call the shots any more than O'Neill did.

Iron Fist: I dont give a flying F..what you think of what I said. Just skip my posts. I heard what I heard and saw what I saw... and many Journalists TV, Radio, and in Print, picked up on it and expanded on that discusting line.

"F. the Jews" quote was earlier and not in Fla..and thats why many people ALSO knew what Baker was doin down there cause they knew his attitude towards Jews AND Israel.

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***More important things right this minute...HAPPY THINGS..The Doby showed like a house on fire. He didnt even look REAL... Hes absoluetly gorgoeus..I want him...I want him..Im in looovveee. Im gonna be in love tonight and tomorrow night about 50 times at least...Boxer wasnt bad either.

Who said the following:

"We urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction program."

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."

Click below for answer:

[Link: www.townhall.com...]

BTW, Mona Charen does a great job compiling idiotarian quotes.

JD...thats for Sure..Baker can DO a job. Im not saying he isnt good at what he does. HE IS...Thats the problem for us tho...(little lolol ---a sad lolol)

Iron Fist (#184),

That was about the most polite evisceration I've ever seen. ;-)

J.D. (#185),

Even less so, O'Neill at least held a cabinet position.

Geepers (#189)

Well, you're right; O'Neill did hold a cabinet position; but he had little - if any - influence over policy and was in total disagreement with it, as you know. Did you ever read Rumsfeld's Rules? O'Neill heeded none of the free advice. Not a bright move.

J.D. (#191),

Rumsfeld's Rules?

Iron Fist (#190),

Wise decision.

bluntly:
fuck al gore and the socialist democratic party.

I cant waste my time on a drawn out description of how I really feel.

#180 Rayra -

Geez. Algore and Dean really are two peas on a pod.

The difference being:

Dean: Doesn't realize his campaign ended three weeks ago.

Gore: Doesn't realize his campaign ended four years ago.

Geepers (#192)

Rumsfeld's Rules?

Yes. You've never read them?

Here's some *breaking news*.
Letter: Bin Laden Has Recruiting Problems

I read lucianne.com fairly regularly. It is consistently pro-Israel, which is fine with me. Although there are anti-Semitic Jews, I would still expect most people named Goldberg to be pro-Israel. I followed the Florida voting fiasco fairly closely, and I don't remember her or her son freaking out about absentee ballots from Israel. I do remember considerable concern about Democratic attempts to disqualify military votes.

J.D. (#195),

Rumsfeld Rules!

But I don't think I've ever seen Rumsfeld's Rules.

Osama: "It's easy, you just strap on this bomb and go blow yourself up"

Recruit: "And then I get the $25,000 for college tuition?"

#197 Geepers

Here you go.
Rumsfeld's Rules

CJ. Lucienne Goldberg is most definitely NOT JEWISH and never has been and never intends to be. She doesn't miss an opportunity to remind people that she is an active member of her Church. Most of the time she wears a large Cross so that you know WHO SHE IS. I dont know about her son. He is Jewish only if he converts to Judaism. The child of a non Jewish mother and a Jewish Father is not Jewish. The MOM has to be Jewish. Thems the rules. If he converted, then he is..if he didn't, despite anything else they played at..he isn't.

I remember the remarks both from the Forums and many of the links they provided. This isn't a deep dark secret that no one heard. All you had to do is click on subjects that have to do with Jews..either Israel or in some political situations and SOME of her regulars spouted the worst antisemitism. It doesn't matter to her..in the slightest. She does filter out the over extreme KKK types and the WAR types but on our side of the pond..thats about all. I suspect she is watching it a little more since 9/11 tho.

Incidently, I was speaking only of Baker and what he did..and not the rest of it...I know what I saw and heard and read. Not new any of it. Same old..generally the same old.

#198 JD

Thanks, I hadnt read that before

J.D. (#198),

Thanks!

Simple guidelines to help determine a good course of action. Makes decision making easy.

Rumy's a smart guy. Plus true to it. I loved seeing him help carry a stretcher when the Pentagon got hit.

I saw the Gore clip on Hannity & Colmes. They ran it side-by-side with the Dean clip. Oh my. It was quite amusing. BTW, Dean said he won't give up, even if he loses Wisconsin...

You can imagine how much (not) I'm looking forward to going to the 35th reunion at Harvard in June. The class of '69 which took over the administration building and has never gotten over it is the 35th reunion class, which includes Al and my husband, among others. We can always hope Algore and the Tip stay home, and Tommy Lee Jones, as well.

The Gores were at the 25th and were actually pretty unobtrusive, except there were dogs sniffing around and men armed with rifles in the windows in the Yard while he was speaking. He gave the Class Day speech which focused on why cynicism is do bad for people and for our country. It was actually an excellent speech, but not well received by the lefty classmates (Gore talked about how much prayers for his son when he was hit by a car meant to the family, for example.) One person said it sounded like a tent revival speech (translation: appeals to trailer trash).

During the 2000 campaign, we got a phone solicitation from someone in the college class. This person could not believe that we weren't giving $$ to Al's campaign. Seriously, the guy told us we were the first people in the class (so far) who hadn't given to Al's campaign.

I worked with Gore one summer in Tennessee on the McGovern campaign, I think it was. I think he's changed a lot as a result of the power of politics. I stopped liking him way way back because he played class warfare way before it was popular.

Now I just think he's lost it. He needs to get a life.

This explains it all: Blowfish Al Gore Rhythm

Leah (#179)

I say, "James Baker can kush in toches arein". How's that? ;-)

OT: I think the Saudis give a new definition to the word hypocrisy! While complaning about the israelis building a wall to prevent further terrorism, they are quitely doing the same.

Kingdom-Yemen Emergency Talks Set Over Border Fence
Michel Cousins, Managing Editor

JEDDAH, 10 February 2004 — Saudi and Yemeni border authorities are to hold emergency talks in a bid to defuse tension over a so-called “security screen” being erected by the Kingdom along the Yemeni frontier. A Yemeni delegation arrived in Jeddah yesterday for talks on the subject.

Yemeni authorities claim that the barrier is being built in a common grazing area that had been agreed in the June 2000 border pact that ended a decades-long territorial dispute between the two countries.

The screen is part of a larger plan to erect what will be an electronic surveillance system along the entire length of the Kingdom’s frontiers — land, air and sea. The project, involving fencing, cameras and other electronic detection equipment, has been in the planning stages for several years. According to a report in the Paris daily Le Figaro last month, the French aerospace group Thales is “on the verge” of being awarded the contract to oversee the construction of the system. The project is said to be worth up to $8.75 billion. It would, the French paper says, involve an integrated surveillance, intelligence, reconnaissance and communication network. A spokesman for the French negotiators in the Kingdom would offer no comment other than to say that the discussions between the two sides had been going on “for a long time”. Le Figaro said that they had been going on “for 15 years.”

However, Arab News has learned from French sources that any contract is still “some way off”, probably several months. This was said to be due to the fact that the French negotiating team had changed and the new team, from Sofresa, a part-private part-state company linked to the Ministry of Defense, had had to familiarize itself with the details.

Previously, negotiations had been conducted by Sofremi, a part-private, part-Ministry-of-Interior company that exports security equipment. A further delay, the French say, was because the Saudi government wanted the project to be dealt with and signed on a state-to-state basis. This would require a French government minister coming to Riyadh to sign. The name of Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy was mentioned.

While talking to reporters last month, Interior Minister Prince Naif had indicated there were plans to erect the security screen. With reference to Yemen, he said that officials were in contact with Sanaa and that “we’ll do everything possible to protect our borders in cooperation with Yemen”.

The Yemen section of the plan appears to have become complicated by local tribal issues. Reacting to rumors in Yemen’s Sada province that the barrier would be a concrete wall, despite Saudi assertions otherwise, local Waelah tribal leaders protested to the government in Sanaa, claiming that any such wall would be against their interests and demanded that work cease on a 20-kilometer stretch.

They say that there could be no renegotiation of the existing border between themselves and the Yam tribe on the Saudi side that was approved by a tribal committee five years ago before being endorsed in the Saudi-Yemeni border agreement.

Saudi authorities refuse to call the barrier along a 42-kilometer (26-mile) portion of the border with Yemen a “security wall” opting instead for the term “cement-filled pipeline,” according to Asharq Al-Awsat, a sister publication of Arab News. “The cement-filled pipeline being built inside our territories is aimed at curbing infiltration and smuggling,” Lt. Gen. Talal Angawi, head of the Saudi border guards, told the London-based Arabic daily. A similar section of raised, concrete-filled pipeline, had reportedly already been built on Saudi Arabia’s northern border with Kuwait.

Diplomats say Saudi Arabia is urgently stepping up border controls after the surge of militancy last year, fueled by weapons smuggled across thousands of kilometers of desert and mountain borders.

Other officials in the Saudi Arabian border guards have also denied the rumors about a concrete wall. The head of border guards in Asir, Gen. Muhammad Al-Bayali, told Al-Watan newspaper that relations between the two countries are good and that border barriers would largely consist of barbwire fencing and in certain places, infrared cameras.

These were to prevent wanted criminals from escaping across the border and the smuggling of weapons and drugs into the country.

The rumors of a wall had been spread by smugglers, he said, worried about their illegal operations coming to an end.

Saudi Arabia frequently announces arrests and arms seizures along the 1,800-kilometer Yemen border. At the end of December the authorities said they had arrested 4,047 “infiltrators” and seized weapons and ammunition in Najran province.

The Kingdom has also stepped up the hunt for militants blamed for suicide bombings in Riyadh in May and November that left more than 50 people dead. Hundreds of suspects have been rounded up. Yemen has also been tracking down suspected sympathizers of Osama Bin Laden’s Al-Qaeda militant network.

[Link: www.arabnews.com...]

For SURE Zulu..for SURE!!! Bastard. lolol

Leah, I've been watching the dog show a bit because of you. LOL.

I saw a clip of Gore on TV earlier, and he looked evil. I loathe him, always have. He has those snake eyes but I always thought him more moron than anything else, with the personality of a piece of wood. However, watching him doing his best Howard Dean impression, he looked demonic.

--#190 Iron Fist 2/9/2004 05:34PM PST

#186 Leah,

Um, yeah, whatever.

[Carefully backs away from the crazy lady]--

Really... Can you say "manic"?

Good..I hope you enjoyed it Zulu. I fell in love with that gorgeous Doberman. I thought he was just beautiful. Course..being Westminster and all they didn't choose him. They did pick the other two favorites tho as winners of their particular group. They will be in the final tomorrow for Best in Show along with Alekai Dog shown by Sammet. Sammet is the handler and the part owner of Mikey.. been around FOREVER. AleKai MikiMoto ..something or other on Fifth. Big White Std. Poodle. Mikey made it to the finals last year and didn't win. This gorgeous and fabulous Kerry Blue Terrier won FINALLY...(took him 3 years to win) Did you see your favorite?

Tomorrow night they do three more Groups ..and the Best in Show..7 Dogs compete at the end. Its a hoot. Got to love it. Sides..you see lots of dogs you've never seen before and thats fun.

Tomorrow night gorgeous Collies,German Shepards, Afgans, Salukis, Spaniels,and Irish Setters, Canan Dog, and and...forgot. who all else.. Oh well they are all great. Each one more beautiful than the last one.

Zulu: Long as you did watch Westminister..give you a little more inside info. The handlers and the judges have been there forever..some for 62 years. It is a totally closed system. The first Judge was an oldish lady when I bought my first Dog...She looks fabulous ..and she must be in her 80s++ by now. Something about that "sport" that helps longevity or something. And she is the norm. The same names over and over again. No one dies..they just keep breeding and showing dogs and ..all power to em.

Enjoy...

I would still expect most people named Goldberg

Why? Christine Anapour (sp?) is married to a Jewish fellow and she is certainly not pro-Israel.

#213, teacake. How about the guy she's married to, Jamie Anapour?

OMG...they have cloned "Howierd" Dean.

When most of us are lied to, we feel betrayed, just like me and millions of other Americans feel about GWB.

When ya run out of ammo, I guess ya grab anything that's close by and available and start slingin' it, even mud...

Pretty weak.