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Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 4:40:49 pm PST

A US Army National Guardsman has been arrested in Fort Lewis, Washington, for trying to give information to Al Qaeda: Soldier accused of trying to aid al-Qaida. (Hat tip: NC.)

Spc. Ryan G. Anderson has been charged with “aiding the enemy by wrongfully attempting to communicate and give intelligence to the al-Qaida terrorist network,” U.S. officials told NBC News. The officials said that Anderson was caught up in a sting operation conducted jointly by the Army, the Justice Department and the FBI. Anderson, however, is currently being held and charged only by the Army. Anderson is a Muslim, officials said.

Anderson, a 26-year-old tank crewmember from the Army’s 81st National Guard Brigade, was among the 4,100 troops of the 81st Brigade on their way to Iraq for a one-year deployment.

According to a recent edition of the Everett Herald newspaper, Anderson is a 2002 graduate of Washington State University and graduated from Cascade High School in 1995. While at WSU he majored in military history with an emphasis on the Middle East. The article says Anderson converted to the Muslim faith five years ago.

What’s the difference between the behavior of people like this, and the behavior of cult members? At which mosque did Anderson receive his indoctrination?

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1 SoCalJustice  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 2:43:43pm

I wonder why Ryan G. Anderson didn't change his name after his conversion.

Similar to Mike Tyson and Jermaine Jackson.

2 evariste  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 2:44:43pm

Muslim traitor shocka.
I can't even muster enough shock to end with an exclamation mark.
Why'd this clown convert to Islam, anyway? I'm going to love finding that out.

3 Engineer  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 2:45:12pm

This is good news in a way. They must be watching closely to have caught him.

4 Dar ul Harb  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 2:45:59pm

The G is for goatf***er.

5 evariste  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 2:47:22pm

Hey, here's the bright side: they were conducting a sting operation! And they weren't too closedminded to see if a white American muslim would take the opportunity to be a traitor to his country. Hell yeah, that works for me. Security looks more like it's on the ball than at recent times in the past.

6 Kat  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 2:47:51pm

He didn't change his name because it is easier to be a two faced prick without Mohammed in his name.
If Kerry gets elected it will be a UN military run by terrorists like Koffi Annan so this guy will fit right in. It is time to stop pandering to these creeps. And it is time our universities stop being recruitment centres for these jihadis.

The Harvard Crimson newspaper has unearthed a 1970 interview with John Kerry in which the then-congressional candidate said he favored eliminating the CIA and having the United States military deployed only by the authority of the United Nations.

"I'm an internationalist," Kerry told The Harvard Crimson 10 months after returning home from Vietnam. "I'd like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations."

The Crimson said in a story today the decorated veteran "spoke in fierce terms during his daylong interview" Feb. 13, 1970, with the paper's Samuel Z. Goldhaber.

Kerry, who enjoys a commanding lead for the Democratic presidential nomination, told Goldhaber he wanted "to almost eliminate CIA activity."

7 Lansenkat  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 2:48:17pm

Can we please make an example of this one and try and convict him of treason.

8 Matt W.  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 2:49:27pm

*sigh* and the damning thing is for all that, for trying to aide those that want everyone in the west dead or shackled, he'll get no severe punishment. He'll probably be held in some cushy prison for years until his trial rolls around at which point he'll be dishonorably discharged and then sent to prison. What WON'T happen is him hanging from a rope within a months time. God damn it, we used to know what to do with those who betray their nation and military a century ago.

9 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 2:49:59pm

Well, let's unpack this. If the allegations are true, then he was passing intel along to the terrorists. The terrorists would then use this intel to escape from Army sweeps. There would be fewer clashes and fewer casualties. See? It is a Religion of Peace after all!

10 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 2:50:23pm
11 Mr Pol  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 2:50:44pm

OT: U.S. envoy: Anti-Semitism in Europe nearly as bad as in 1930s

BRUSSELS - The U.S. envoy to the European Union said on Thursday that anti-Semitism in Europe was nearly as bad as it was in the 1930s, a decade which saw the rise of German Nazism and led to the extermination of six millions Jews.

but Javier Solana says:

"Acts and expressions of anti-Semitism within the European Union are not acts of anti-Semitism by the European Union. The policies of the European Union are neither anti-Semitic nor anti-Israeli."

Euro-taqqiyah.

12 Pablo  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 2:51:08pm

Evariste, you're not suggesting that they...gasp...PROFILED!!!???

Perish the thought. Just because the terrorists are Muslim doesn't mean that all Muslims...ggaaa...uuurgh...YEAAARGH!

/Howard Dean

13 Jaffar abu Grand Vizier  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 2:52:04pm
Anderson is a 2002 graduate of Washington State University and graduated from Cascade High School in 1995. While at WSU he majored in military history with an emphasis on the Middle East.

Something tells me this guy studied this while pursuing his degree.

14 NitneLiun  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 2:52:04pm

He graduated from high school in 1995 and college in 2002. He must have been on the seven year plan with Bluto, Otter and the rest of Delta House.

15 Zachary Cohen  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 2:53:15pm

I heard this on CBS with Dan Rather. Of course, no mention of his Muslim faith.

16 Skookumchuk  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 2:53:41pm

#7 Lasenkat:

Can we please make an example of this one and try and convict him of treason.

Nope. Or not until Chicago or someplace goes up in a fireball. Then we will dust off the treason laws. But not before, unfortunately.

17 Cooper for President  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 2:54:08pm

The Religion of Peace strikes again.

Let's see, we have the Portland Seven.. James Yee, now this piece of crap.

Yep, the PNW is the most terror-friendly place in the country.

'Coop

18 Lansenkat  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 2:55:25pm

Sad but true--#8 it closer to the mark.

19 Tom the lurker  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 2:57:56pm

#14:

He graduated from high school in 1995 and college in 2002. He must have been on the seven year plan with Bluto, Otter and the rest of Delta House.

Most people who go to Wazzu tend to be on the 7 year plan. :)


Well, I'm a little concerned about living in the Pacific Northwest. That Portland 7, the guy from Idaho, and now this idiot. Hope he gets the electric chair. Or death by firing squad.

20 lmg  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:07:30pm
Perish the thought. Just because the terrorists are Muslim doesn't mean that all Muslims...

That's true. Someone who is born into a religion cannot be assumed to be a fanatical believer. On the other hand, anyone who converts to Islam as an adult should be immediately disqualified from serving in our military, or immediately discharged if already there.

PC will be our doom.

21 azul93gt  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:11:50pm

As a student of military history how does this guy take the decision to side with an enemy that can not possibly win.

22 Black_Flag  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:12:02pm

Ok, another example that the "War on America" (for them) and the "War On Terrorism" (for Americans) is actually, really and truly and war of religious principles (IE: a Jihad).

The sad part is that it really is a religious based war for everyone but the US, who refuses to see it for what it actually is. There will be no peace for the West until the theocratic dicatatorial "leadership" of the muslim faith is destroyed.

This game is for keeps kids, get on the winning team.

23 Jay  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:12:28pm

PC will be our doom.

Which is why I'm a Linux fan.

24 Gary Bruce  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:15:14pm

I'm more concerned about the Daily Mirror story yesterday about AQ buying 15 ships from some Greek, trying to trace it (there are 120,000 ships globally), and Scotland Yard issuing a warning about terror attacks on Parliament by ship.

Any LGFers hear about it?

25 aaron  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:16:07pm
At which mosque did Anderson receive his indoctrination?

Better question:

At which website did he provide, or attempt to provide, information to Al Qaida?

You'll have to wait a little while for the answer to that one:-)

26 John B  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:19:09pm

Re: #19 Tom

Don't forget Rachel Corrie - also from the northwest I believe.

27 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:19:19pm
28 Skookumchuk  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:19:37pm

#24 Gary Bruce: There was an article in the Atlantic I think about six months ago explaining the ease with which Al Qaida can penetrate the world of shipping, which is designed to shield true owners from the public eye, largely in an attempt to evade tax and safety regulations.

29 Mohammed-kamel-poo  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:21:06pm

#24

Try this webpage:

OSAMA'S NAVY

"Bin Laden has bought fleet of 15 ships for terror attacks"

[Link: www.mirror.co.uk...]

30 J.D.  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:23:36pm

#24 Gary Bruce

A version with a 'clever' headline
UK fears ship 'Laden' with explosives

31 Gary Bruce  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:27:31pm

Skookumchuk:

There was an article in the Atlantic I think about six months ago explaining the ease with which Al Qaida can penetrate the world of shipping

So this is their fallback option for WMD delivery. Just sidle into several ports and detonate simultaneously. I notice that we haven't been able to locate a single vessel of theirs. What a lousy news day.

32 azul93gt  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:29:10pm

#27 Rayra

Considering the trend in "academia" in the last ~15yrs, his "military history" probably consisted of nothing but blame-america-first "interventions" (communist list of amerikkkan military Imperialism)

Yeah, of course, you're right. He probably got the John Kerry version of the US involvement in Viet Nam.

33 andrew  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:30:59pm

#25 aaron

OMG! You are awesome! Very well played!

34 NitneLiun  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:31:56pm

As a student of military history how does this guy take the decision to side with an enemy that can not possibly win.

As a Muslim he believes they will win, because God is on the side of the Jihadist. Hey, it only takes one nuke.

35 KevinV  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:35:30pm

Let's hold off on this a moment.

Think about this: the arrests of muslim clerics at Gitmo turned out to be much ado about nothing, with the original charges dropped in favor of adultery charges.

In the current crisis, our good guys may be over-reacting and seeing enemies where they aren't.

I think we should reserve judgment, given the Army's record on these types of arrest over the past 4 months, until we see some solid proof.

36 steve miller  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:39:56pm

Oh, you think that's bad? Just wait until Charles posted what I just sent him.

You'll just explode.

37 Kat  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:41:12pm

This was a sting operation--the guy thought he was talking to Al Queda--he was talking to American undercover agents. He is a guilty as hell and he is muslim. Do you notice the networks are not divulging his muslimism? Afraid of Cair or ruffling some burkas, I guess.

38 Deathberg  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:44:05pm

His original name was Rashid Ghamal Achmed, but they changed it at Ellis Island...

OT: this swollen lymph node is really pissing me off, but the clinics dont open till morning. AARRRGH!

39 john clark  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:47:17pm

A bright spot today: CBS News radio (am)feed at 6 pm MST did mention that this traitor was a convert to Islam (ropma). Also mentioned he converted some five years ago but don't know if he was in the service at that time. Second bright spot is that, as mentioned above, it was a sting operation so hopefully he was fed misinformation or, at the very least, we know what info was passed.

40 steve miller  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:47:26pm

Hint: Think "Seattle Community College"

41 Camel Prophet  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:47:41pm

Muslims are disloyal genocidal maniacs:

[Link: www.islam.tc...]

Muslims are peace loving patriots:

[Link: www.whitehouse.gov...]

Muslims are pigs. Muslim-lovers are pigs.

42 steve miller  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 3:49:19pm

Oh well, can't say more right now -- need to go do some work!

43 Infinite Justice  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 4:12:55pm

The only way to avoid another massive terror attack against us is to unambiguosly describe Saudi Arabia as the epicenter of the militant Islamic threat and announce that Saudi Arabia will be the target of our retaliatory attacks.

The Saudis will continue to attack us (as they did on 9/11) as long as we stupidly describe the threat as composed of rogue, non-state actors. But if we call a spade a spade and make the Saudis realize that Mecca and Madina will be destroyed, the threat we face will evaporate virtually overnight. Even the hardest of the hardcore wahhabist will not want to see their "holy sites" destroyed.

Mutually Assured Destruction worked with the communists, it'll work with islamofacism.

44 Clinton/Gore turned down Osama  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 4:20:07pm

Here here #43

45 Moonbat_One  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 4:45:16pm

HOLY SHIT! I used to talk to that guy on firearms message boards! We knew he was a Muslim, from Washington, a history grad, was joining the National Guard, shipping out to Iraq, and his name was Ryan A. It must be the same fucking guy.

When he was shipping out, I thought about sarcastically reminding him not to frag his CO, but thought that was too harsh and bigoted to say (because after all, just being Muslim doesn't automatically make you suspect and prone to treason). Then this happens.

46 Moonbat_One  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 4:47:12pm

Oh yeah, and he did have a Muslim moniker: Amir Abdul-Rashid

47 evariste  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 4:54:44pm

Holy shit, Moonbat_One!
What message board was it?

48 Camel Prophet  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 4:55:27pm

Infinite Justice #43:

Number of times either the Oil-Patch White House or the State Department have criticized Wahabi clerics for genocide incitement: zero. Therefore, like Pavlov's dogs, thus reinforced, they continue salivating when given the opportunity to vent hate driven rage.

Ergo: regardless of who is the front-runner leading into the Fall elections, it is imperative that both candidates be pressured (or leveraged) into a hardline position on the West's mortal enemy. As I have repeatedly predicted here, a hardline is forming in Europe against their own savage minority. Rather than attempt to understand why Europeans are wary of creeping shariah perversity, American elites questioned the Euro commitment to religious freedom, viz the rag (hijab) issue.

Common sense dictates that islam is nothing but the concoction of a revenge-seeking, pedophile, who used people as means to his own perverse ends. Muslims deserve to be trusted as far as you can spit against a hurricane. It is a hate-murder cult, and should not be mistaken for a bona fide religion.

CHARLES JOHNSON ON THE ISLAMIC CULTISTS, SEPTEMBER 1, 2001:

"I don't like to write about the Middle East. I don't even like to think about it. It's a dismaying quagmire of blind religious hatred and irrational Dark Ages thinking on all sides, impervious to logic or reason, perhaps the greatest imponderable stupidity in humankind's history..."

49 Cornholio  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 4:57:47pm

Get a rope.

50 #47 Evariste  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 4:57:52pm

[Link: www.ar15.com...] He was not especially popular there.

Here's the pertinient thread:

[Link: www.weaponforums.com...]

51 Morgan  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 4:59:32pm

What ever happened to the Muslim who rolled a grenade into his CO's tent? Or the Muslims at Guantanamo who passed on intellegence to Syria. Seems like the media is going out of its way to ignore the connections. We are at war with Islam and American Muslims are a fifth column. They must be rooted out.

52 justmonkey (dont ask !!!)  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 5:04:22pm

From here

Anderson is a military historian, graduating from WSU in 2002 with a degree in military history with an emphasis on the Middle East. Converting to the Muslim faith five years ago, he said the tour of duty will be an interesting experience.

he said the tour of duty will be an interesting experience

53 EE  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 5:14:06pm

Here is my guess (it's pure speculation, of course) as to where Anderson got his jihadist orientation
[Link: cub.wsu.edu...]
I'm referring to the MSA at Washington State University.

The FBI would never suspect that such a place could incubate jihadists, would it?

54 Stop Hillary  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 5:19:27pm

IF he is guilty, can he be executed?

55 Abu Radley  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 5:26:02pm

#19 Tom
LOL... I'm entering year 5! (and that's with WSU's distance degree program, majoring in... ahem, history). Don't plan on converting to the ROP anytime soon, though.

56 Hee! Hee!  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 5:31:51pm

That little traitorous prick is in for a RUDE awakening when he finally gets to his new home in Leavenworth. The guards there aren't a bunch of drug-runnin pussies like in the state pens. They're hard ass marines...and they don't take NO SH*T from no traitor!:) He'll be wishing he was a butt boy in the local mosque looong before his tour of duty is up! Bwwaahahaha...

57 evariste  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 5:33:06pm

#54 Stop Hillary-it depends on what charges they bring him up on, but since it's the Army prosecuting him, the answer is emphatically yes. The burden of proof will be much higher than civilian trial, though. I personally doubt he will be executed.

58 Stop Hillary  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 5:40:02pm

Well, I'm not prejudging him. Seems that some of the others were charged with lesser infractions at the end of the day. I'm still thinking of that one guy who may have actually helped Jihadis kill his mates in their tents on the eve of the invasion.

If one of our guys is guilty of a crime punishable by death -- I think justice to those soldiers that serve honorably deserves that it be meted out.

59 Cornholio  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 5:44:24pm

#43  Infinite Justice 


The only way to avoid another massive terror attack against us is to unambiguosly describe Saudi Arabia as the epicenter of the militant Islamic threat and announce that Saudi Arabia will be the target of our retaliatory attacks.

I agree! But it just occurred to me. Do you suppose Al Queda has decided not to carry out any terror attacks on U.S. soil until after the election? In the hopes Kerry will get elected?

60 justmonkey (shush it)  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 5:47:59pm

From here

Defense officials speaking on the condition of anonymity said Spc. Ryan G. Anderson, 26, signed onto extremist Internet chat rooms and tried to get in touch with al-Qaida operatives, offering the organization information on U.S. military capabilities and weaponry.


Anderson is the second Muslim soldier with Fort Lewis connections to be accused of wrongdoing related to the war on terror. Capt. James Yee, 35, a former Fort Lewis chaplain, is accused of mishandling classified information from the U.S. prison for suspected terrorists at Guantanamo Bay. Yee ministered to Muslim prisoners there.
61 Jakester  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 8:05:40pm

Oh great, isn't religious freedom wonderful! Why don't we adopt apostasy laws so anyone converting to Islam faces death by stoning.

62 pbird  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 8:12:08pm

Oh yeah, I'm in Everett, where Cascade High is. Believe me, this place is something else... People ASSUME you share their Bush hatred, etc., because its only natural, right?

63 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 8:33:29pm
64 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 8:37:14pm
65 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 8:42:26pm
66 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 9:11:25pm
67 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 9:20:10pm

Moonbat_One #45,
firearms website that unfortunately seems to be non-comp just now.

68 John Cunningham  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 9:20:30pm

I fear that it will take a nuking of one of our cities, or a massive biological attack, before we get serious. We do have to realize that we are dealing with a twisted death cult, and that ALL this regimes--Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Pakistan--have to be crushed. People shrink from direct combat, but it is still better than the "Sea of Glass" strategy. I would hate to be responsible for killing hundreds of millions of Muslims, but if that is what it takes, so be it.

69 John Cunningham  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 9:24:18pm

Re #67 Shiplord Kirel,

I looked at the photo, it doesn't look like Wehrmacht _feldgrau_ fabric to me. I think it could be surplus Swedish winter headgear, which is often for sale cheap through surplus sites.

70 Rayra[deleted]  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 9:40:57pm
71 Shiplord Kirel  Thu, Feb 12, 2004 9:56:47pm

#69, John
Note that the picture is blue-rich. If you use a photo processing program to reduce this to a natural level, using Anderson's features and the rifle stock as a benchmark, the cap is much closer to feld-grau.
My associate, Jerry the Survivalist, identifies it as either a Gebirgjager (sp?) Feldmutze or an M-43 Wehrmacht cap. The insignia is not German and may be that of Anderson's Guard unit.

In this here from 1995.

72 Frank IBC  Fri, Feb 13, 2004 3:04:18am

I just saw his pic on Fox. Doesn't look like the sharpest knife in the drawer. Maybe he was POed about not getting admitted to the Special Olympics, due to his IQ being one point too high.

73 Rick Z  Fri, Feb 13, 2004 4:25:40am

# 63 Rayra:

Speaking as a navy brat, the Naval Brig is in Portsmouth, New Hampshire.

74 Rick W  Fri, Feb 13, 2004 4:45:14am

#63 & #73
That brig has been closed for quite a while (I've been to that shipyard many times).

75 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Feb 13, 2004 4:48:08am

#50 evariste

The prize line from that thread is:

Just goes to show, you can't trust ANYONE from washington!

>:^D

76 Mr. Bigglesworth  Fri, Feb 13, 2004 4:54:08am

This story only reaffirms my belief that some of these radical islamist sites that Charles posts threads from are nothing but sting operations, or at the very least are heavily monitored.

Unfortunately, I think they'll only catch morons like this guy.

77 The Sanity Inspector  Fri, Feb 13, 2004 4:54:19am

#43 Infinite Justice

Mutually Assured Destruction worked with the communists, it'll work with islamofacism.

I dunno... Remember, these loons *want* to die, while taking as many of us with them as they can.

78 Rick Z  Fri, Feb 13, 2004 5:12:12am

# 74 Rick W:

Makes sense that it closed. It is on a miilitary base and near Kerry's home state of Massachusetts.

Seriously, I wonder where the main naval brig is nowadays, that is, a long term prison? Every naval base has a brig to hold those Saturday night drunks and petty thieves, but usually not for long term incarceration after a court martial conviction.

79 DP  Fri, Feb 13, 2004 5:24:32am

48 camel prophet

As I have repeatedly predicted here, a hardline is forming in Europe against their own savage minority. Rather than attempt to understand why Europeans are wary of creeping shariah perversity, American elites questioned the Euro commitment to religious freedom, viz the rag (hijab) issue.

And as you know I've been commenting the same. Europe is getting its act together as far as waging this war is concerned ie war on the threat within. Step by step, Europe is going to starve this cult of Islam, of the oxygen that it needs. Anfd France is showing the way. I remember some six moths ago, having a discussion in LGF with caton on this very issue. He was dismissive of France.

The US OTH is blithely unaware of the real danger. A touching faith that the constitution is a bulwark against creeping dhimmitude. It isnt.

80 DP  Fri, Feb 13, 2004 5:38:44am

77 sanity inspector

Mutually Assured Destruction worked with the communists, it'll work with islamofacism.

It will work. The reason that Jihadis continue to wage war is that they are confident that while they kill infidel civilians, the ummah will not be attacked in retaliation. They are also confident that while they can destroy the symbols of our civilisation the symbols of their cult will not be attacked. But change that and the Jihad will come to a stop.

81 Martel-Sobieski  Fri, Feb 13, 2004 6:40:41am

If anyone deserves the firing squad, this little prick does. I don't even care if he's guilty or not. Just shoot him, please.

Make more examples of these scumbags. Let them seethe and scream and riot. Smoke them out and get them agitated. If we are ever going to seriously address this threat in the US, it needs to be brought to a head ASAP. Preferably by expoliting the anti-rational and violent tendencies of the [bigoted word]s themselves rather than waiting for another spectacular attack.

Listen, Hear me, . . . Islam is not merely a religion, it is a POLITICAL project. It is on this basis that it should be attacked. We must NOT ALLOW them to hide behind the veil of religion, like the Palis hide behind women and children.

If these scum want to fight in the gutter, we need to be willing to get even deeper into the sewage with them. This sting operation is very encouraging, it says that our people are watching, they are listening. The Islamo-scum have to either go deeper underground or come out in the open. Either way they continue to prove themselves treacherous, dastardly, cowardly pieces of shit.

"By thier fruits ye shall know them"

Die muslim devils.

82 V the K  Fri, Feb 13, 2004 6:47:11am

I think, as a humanitarian gesture, the Army should allow him conjugal visits with Susan Sarandon. That alone should discourage other jihadis from treasonous acts.

83 torchy  Fri, Feb 13, 2004 7:14:35am

#78 Rick Z

Seriously, I wonder where the main naval brig is nowadays, that is, a long term prison?

There is a Naval Brig in Charleston SC wheer alleged dirt-bomber Jose Padilla is being housed.

84 Stop Hillary  Fri, Feb 13, 2004 7:56:24am

#77 Sanity Inspector -- "'Mutually Assured Destruction worked with the communists, it'll work with islamofacism.'

I dunno... Remember, these loons *want* to die, while taking as many of us with them as they can. "


You've hit on it. That's why "mutually assured destruction" won't work. However, "unitlaterally assured destruction" will work. I've always maintained that we need to make it the Saudi's problem to solve the terror problem since they are the source of it.

The quitet diplomatic message to the fat corrupt Saudi princes is simple -- any nuclear or chemical/biological attack on a US city will result in a full nuclear retalitory response by us on the whole of Saudi Arabia. We won't investigate, we won't ask why, we will just do it. Leave them with a selected set of coordinates for emphasis. Conduct visible ballistic missles tests periodically. Same message has to go to the mullahs in Iran, to Pakistan and to Syria. They need to understand to a certainty that their civilizations, such as they are, will cease to exist in the span of an hour.

I suspect that Saudis will find a way to cutoff and cutup the terrorists.

In addition to that communicating the reality of it all, the US might upon the next lethal provocation conduct a conventional weapons demonstration in a suitable spot like the Bekka Valley or other terror nest. Precision should not be high on the agenda.

85 Rick Z  Fri, Feb 13, 2004 9:19:32am

# 82 V the K:

I think, as a humanitarian gesture, the Army should allow him conjugal visits with Susan Sarandon.

LOL! You really do want to kill him with kindness, don't you?


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Anything can be music -- Answer to critics accusing him of not doing actual music on Uncle Meat